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Tape Number : Q 689
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McCoy: (Sounds nervous) Uh, yeah, is Mr. uh, Joe Mazor in? (Pause) Uh, Carol McCoy. Yes. (Pause) Uh, well, Id reallyd just talk to him, if possible. Okay. (Pause) (Whispered) Pen.
McCoy: Uh, Mr. Mazor?
McCoy: Uh, my name is Carol McCoy. Uh, Im calling from Los Angeles, and uh, Ive got a problem and I was just wondering if you could possibly help me with it. Um, Ive been a member of Peoples Temple, and my children, uh, have been sent to Guyana, uh, and Id like to get them back, and uh, Ive uh, Id like to know if theres any way that you could help me, or that you could uh, uh, possibly recommend somebody.
Mazor: (Unintelligible) child in Guyana.
McCoy: Uh, my mother. Uh, my mother had guardianship over them, and uh, she uh, she was taking care of them, and uh, (matter of fact tone) she sent them off.
Mazor: Are you married?
McCoy: Uh, no.
Mazor: (Pause) (Sighs) Well. (Pause) Yeah, theres a couple of things you can do to get them back. Did your mother go to Guyana too?
McCoy: Uh, no, shes still in San Francisco.
Mazor: She is?
Mazor: Uh, thats interesting. Okay. What do you want me to do?
McCoy: Well, thats kinda what I wanted to know, uh, what I wanted you to tell me, was, you know, who I could, uh, you know, what I could do, or
Mazor: What you could do (unintelligible) to get your children back?
McCoy: Well, you have any suggestions on what as to what? (Pause) I mean, I, you know, I, I, Ive been uptight about this situation for a long time and Ive been in a pretty bad situation and so, (Sighs) I just finally said, you know, the heck with this, Ive got to do something, um, Ive tried to talk to my children on the radio, they wouldnt let me. Uh, Ive tried to get letters from them, they wouldnt let me. And um, uh, they let me, very recently, uh, you know, recently, I dont know, but about four weeks ago, uh, I talked to, uh, my little girl, and uh, the oldest ones 13, and the youngest ones seven. She was seven yesterday. (Unintelligible word) (Pause)
Mazor: (Pause) (Unintelligible)
McCoy: Well, um, I know I know about you from the articles and um, um, what uh, um, things Ive had with my mom and uh, stuff like that. (Pause) See, my mom is a, a very active member, you know, and uh, I, I attended the church off and on, until about three weeks ago, and then I just I just finally said the hell with them. Im tired of it. Im tired of all this shit. I want, I want my kids, I want and I want to do what I want to do. You know? Um, I want my kids back, and Im willing to try to do anything to get them back.
Mazor: Have you got any copies of any of the papers with you?
McCoy: Uh, Ive got uh
Mazor: Guardian (unintelligible)
McCoy: Uh, no I dont. My moms got them all.
McCoy: See, I lived in See, I I was living in L.A. for two years and uh, thats when I signed guardianship over to her, and uh, then um, um, I decided to try to make it up in San Francisco for a while, but my mom still insisted on me keeping the kids or on her keeping the kids. And um, so then um, so then um, I when I came back down to L.A. for a while, thats when they shipped them over. This was about three months ago.
Mazor: Did you give permission for them to go over?
McCoy: No, I did not.
Mazor: Did you give them permission to go (unintelligible word) to Guyana?
Mazor: Well, I think there are several things we could do. I, Im not trying to be overly (sigh) more than optimistic or pessimistic right now
Mazor: But I think there are several things you could do, uh, all the way from getting a court order, stopping, you know, demanding the children back, going to the D.A.s office, several things. You seem to be in a terrible position for any one of them.
McCoy: Yeah, that sounds pretty good.
Mazor: But, you know, before I could recommend anything, or before I see what we could do, Id have to talk to you in person. (Unintelligible sentence)
McCoy: Yeah, well, I could understand that. Um, um. Well, when could I meet with you?
Mazor: Well, when do you want to come up to San Francisco?
McCoy: Uh, possible uh, well, I dont know, I could probably make it close to uh, the weekend or the first part of next week. Uh, Ive got, uh Im not (unintelligible word), taking some uh, um Ive been taking some therapy for my back, and um, Ive got uh, an appointment Thursday and Friday, and uh, I would rather be here for that. Um, I might be able to plan after that, um, possibly make it, uh, on the weekend or Monday.
Mazor: Can you hold on (unintelligible probably "a minute" or "a moment")?
Mazor: Well, Im open both Saturday and Monday. So whichever you want, Ill let you talk with my secretary. Uh, she will give you whichever day you want it to be and timewise
Mazor: and uh, take your name and your phone number, if we have to call you and tell you we have to cancel for some reason or the other.
Mazor: All right, hold on just a second.
McCoy: Okay. Thank you.
Secretary: What day you want to come?
McCoy: Um, Monday?
McCoy: Uh, what times best for you?
McCoy: Uh, yeah, I live in Los Angeles, but what Ill do is uh, probably fly in Sunday and
Secretary: (Unintelligible) come in the morning, then?
McCoy: Well, uh, thatd be all right.
Secretary: Okay, what time, about ten oclock then?
Secretary: Okay. Whats your name?
McCoy: Uh, Carol McCoy, um, 757-5985, and the area code is 213. (Pause) Whats Mr. Mazors office address?
Secretary: On the corner of Franklin and(Unintelligible)
McCoy: 1400 Pacific.
McCoy: And more than likely, ride the bus.
McCoy: Uh, okay. Okay.
Secretary: Uh, its suite 904.
McCoy: Suite 904?
Secretary: Yeah. Its an apartment building.
McCoy: Okay. (Laughs)
McCoy: All right.
Secretary: Okay. Thank you.
McCoy: Thank you.
Secretary: Bye, bye.
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