{"id":112479,"date":"2021-12-10T11:14:19","date_gmt":"2021-12-10T19:14:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=112479"},"modified":"2021-12-11T10:57:46","modified_gmt":"2021-12-11T18:57:46","slug":"temple-tells-soviets-about-break-in-conspiracy-september-6","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=112479","title":{"rendered":"Temple Tells Soviets about &#8220;Break in Conspiracy,&#8221; September 6"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>[<strong>Editor&#8217;s notes<\/strong>: The transcript of this document retains its original spellings, with corrections noted only where necessary for clarity.]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>GG-1-F1<\/p>\n<p>Tony Walker<\/p>\n<p>September 6, 1978<\/p>\n<p>USSR Embassy<\/p>\n<p>Tony, Terri [Buford], Tim [Carter], Deb [Touchette]<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 We talked to Timofeyeve [Soviet Embassy official\u00a0Feodor Timofeyev] about our having a break in the conspiracy against us.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 we told him of [private investigator Joe] Mazor[\u2018]s background and how Tim Stoen was a CIA agent, all while in our church.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 he turned on the radio just before we got into the conversation.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Tim gave him the letter about the community as a whole wanting to come to live in the S.U. [Soviet Union]<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 after reading it, [he] said that this was a new impression from our other visits and this letter will take some consultations with not only his fellow imbassy [Embassy] members, but also the S.U.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Tim asked him of his personal impression.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 He said that he can&#8217;t speak for the S.U., but he has to admit the ideas expressed here were interesting, but once again he can&#8217;t speak on behalf of the collective.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 He said that we haven&#8217;t done what he asked us to do about the specifications of the group visitation. [Marginal handwritten note: &#8220;check&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Debbie told him that they were on their way.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 he replied that the same provision will have to be done in this case also.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Tim asked him would it be better for a small group to travel there and present our case or let him in the Embassy do it. [Marginal handwritten note: &#8220;we don&#8217;t want this&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 he said it might be a good idea, but in other words, we may not meet the right people, but if the embassy did it the format or the transcript would be delivered to the right person.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 he said the ambassador has spoken highly of us and the mere fact of our non-drinking or smoking corliates [correlates] with the Ambassadors views. He said that the doctor is due back anytime and they will visit when he returns.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Tem [Tim] mentioned the idea to him about our boat meeting a Soviet vessel, and he thought that it wouldn&#8217;t be such a good idea.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 He warned us that Mazor might be a double agent and we should watch what we say. [Marginal handwritten note: &#8220;we are\u201d]<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 We thanked him, assured him that we would give him details of the idea of leaving to the S\/U\/<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 I told him that our whole community is stud[y]ing Russian and by the films and tapes he gave us we may soon be speaking nothing but Russian.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 He liked that and said that he hoped that the films would be of help.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 I also told him of our whole community singing United Forever in Friendship and Labor as a dedication to the Soviet Union Revolution.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 he smiled and said that is good, we left.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 on our next appointment with the Soviets Timofeyeve had the first secretary there and a comrade named Kramarinco.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Kramarincos impression on me was cold.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Timofeyeve had evidently told them of our prior discussions and Tim gave them the copy of our sinoment-letter, so-to-speak and they read with interest.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Timofeyeves whole new attitude was one of solicitude and more low key than before.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 He said before our proposal would be sent to the S.U. they would discuss it here in the embassy<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>GG-1-F2<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 We agreed that this was fine, but Tim advised him to kind of be careful of people he discusses the Mazor matter with because you never know.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Timofeyeve just laughed and thanked us but assured us everything was o.k.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 The first sec. made a comment that the USSR &amp; Guyana relations were in good standard, and by taking a stand, it might hamper them.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 We assured him that we will do it in such a way that ther[e] will be no problem such as leave our project in tact with all the millions invested.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Timofeyeve said money isn&#8217;t everything. Guyana might lose face.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 we again assured him everything would be done the right way.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 he said that all of these things will have to be in consideration and we told him we understood.<\/p>\n<p>[Line of type struck out] \u2013 We went to a cocktail reception for DPRK<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Editor&#8217;s notes: The transcript of this document retains its original spellings, with corrections noted only where necessary for clarity.] GG-1-F1 Tony Walker September 6, 1978 USSR Embassy Tony, Terri [Buford], Tim [Carter], Deb [Touchette] \u2013 We talked to Timofeyeve [Soviet Embassy official\u00a0Feodor Timofeyev] about our having a break in the conspiracy against us. \u2013 we [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"parent":112381,"menu_order":46,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-112479","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/112479","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=112479"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/112479\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":112533,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/112479\/revisions\/112533"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/112381"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=112479"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}