{"id":113266,"date":"2022-01-30T11:41:54","date_gmt":"2022-01-30T19:41:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=113266"},"modified":"2022-02-01T15:11:02","modified_gmt":"2022-02-01T23:11:02","slug":"q164-transcript","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=113266","title":{"rendered":"Q164 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

This tape was transcribed by Adrian Whicker. The<\/em> editors gratefully acknowledge his invaluable assistance.<\/em><\/b><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Summary,\u00a0click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3<\/a>.
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Music by the Jonestown Express<\/p>\n

Song 1: \u201cBetcha By Golly Wow\u201d by the Stylistics<\/p>\n

Shirley Baisy<\/strong>: (sings) There\u2019s a spark of magic in your eyes
\nCandyland appears each time you smile
\nNever thought that fairy tales come true
\nBut they come true when I\u2019m near you
\nYou\u2019re a genie in disguise
\nFull of wonder and surprise
\nOh, betcha by golly, wow
\nYou\u2019re the one that I\u2019ve been waiting for forever
\nAnd ever will my love for you keep growin\u2019 strong
\nKeep growin\u2019 strong
\nIf I could, I\u2019d catch a falling star
\nTo shine on you so I\u2019ll know where you are
\nOrder rainbows in your favorite shade
\nTo say I love you, thinking of you
\nWrite my name across the sky
\nFull of wonder and surprise
\nOh, betcha by golly, wow
\nYou\u2019re the one that I\u2019ve been waiting for forever
\nAnd ever will my love keep growin\u2019 strong
\nKeep growin\u2019 strong
\nOh-oh, betcha by golly, wow
\nYou\u2019re the one that I\u2019ve been waiting for forever
\nAnd ever will my love for you keep growin\u2019 strong
\nWhoa, keep growin\u2019 strong<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Another woman, likely Shirley Hicks<\/strong>: (calls out the next song) Rolling on the River! Here we go!<\/p>\n

[Tape edit]<\/p>\n

JJ Tumbles [Greg Watkins]<\/strong>: And now ladies and gentlemen, here\u2019s Slick Rick Moore [Rev. Edward Moore] and the Black Sheep. Let\u2019s get some hands together for Slick Rick Moore.<\/p>\n

Song 2: \u201cProud Mary\u201d by Creedence Clearwater Revival<\/p>\n

Moore<\/strong>: (sings): I had a good job in the city
\nWorking for the man every night and day
\nNever lost a minute of sleeping
\nWorrying \u2018bout the way things may have been
\nBig wheel keep on a-turnin\u2019,
\nProud Mary keep on a-burnin\u2019,
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nIf you come down to the river
\nBet you gonna find some people who live
\nYou don\u2019t have to worry if you have no money
\nThe peoples on the river are happy to give
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nCleaned a lots of plates in Memphis,
\nPumped a lots of \u2018panes in New Orleans,
\nI never saw the good side of the city,
\nUntil I hitched a ride to the river boat queen.
\nThe big wheel keep on a-turnin\u2019,
\nProud Mary keep on a-burnin\u2019,
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nI had a good job in the city
\nWorking for the man every night and day
\nI never lost a minute of sleeping
\nWorryin\u2019 \u2018bout the way things may have been
\nBig wheel keep on a-turnin\u2019
\nProud Mary keep on a-burnin\u2019
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river
\nRollin\u2019, rollin\u2019, rollin\u2019 on a river<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

[Tape edit]<\/p>\n

Song 3: \u201cProud Mary\u201d by George Gershwin<\/p>\n

Woman [Likely Deanna Wilkinson<\/strong>]: (sings) Summertime
\nAnd the livin\u2019 is easy
\nFish are jumpin\u2019
\nAnd the cotton is high
\nOh, your daddy\u2019s rich
\nAnd your mama\u2019s good lookin\u2019
\nSo hush little baby
\nDon\u2019t you cry
\nOne of these mornings
\nI\u2019m gonna rise up singin\u2019
\nThen I\u2019ll spread my wings
\nAnd I\u2019ll take to yonder skies
\nBut until that mornin\u2019 comes
\nThere ain\u2019t nothin\u2019 gonna harm me
\nWith Mama and Daddy standin\u2019 by
\nOh-oh-oh, Summertime, summertime, summertime, summertime, summertime
\nAnd the livin\u2019 is easy, easy
\nFish are jumpin\u2019
\nAnd the cotton is high
\nOh-oh-oh-oh, your daddy\u2019s rich
\nAnd your mama, your mama\u2019s good lookin\u2019
\nSo hush little baby
\nDon\u2019t you cry<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

[Edit]<\/p>\n

Lee Ingram<\/strong>: \u2013both parts right in order\u2013 in order to get the whole question right. In what country did fascism first occur, is the first question, and how did the word Nazi originate? Okay, let\u2019s see. All right. Okay, Shawntiki [Johnson].<\/p>\n

Shawntiki Johnson (Verna Lisa Johnson)<\/strong>: Fascism first occurred in Italy\u2013<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, that\u2019s the first part right.<\/p>\n

Shawntiki<\/strong>: And the word Nazi originated from the National German\u2019s Workers Party, it was a socialist front, and [Adolf] Hitler used it to trick the people.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Right, trick the working<\/em> people. Very good, very good, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay. Fascism was the response to something\u2013 Listen close to the question, now, or\u2013 or to the\u2013 okay, to the situation. Fascism was a response to something that happened that showed workers that power could be wrenched from the bourgeoisie. What event was this? Okay? Did everybody understand the question? Want me to repeat it again?<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Yeah.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay. Fascism was a response to something that happened that showed the workers or the working class that power could be wrenched or wrestled away from the bourgeoisie. What event was that? Okay, how about our librarian, Teresa [King]?<\/p>\n

Teresa King<\/strong>: Okay, Uh, the October 1917\u2013 uh, 17 revolution\u2013<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Right.<\/p>\n

King<\/strong>: \u2013uh, showed the whole world that the working class could take power and actually achieve a\u2013 a state government and, uh, it was a threat to the capitalists of the world because in all the countries around the world, they begin having uprisings of the working class because they\u2019d been inspired by this revolution, and so in order to defeat the working people, they put the fascist government into control.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Very good. Very good.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, okay, this is a three<\/em>-part question now. Okay, now listen closely. Who are the leaders of the Patriotic Front\u2013<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Stirs<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, wait. Oh, my goodness. Wait, now wait, wait. Let me finish. Let me finish. Which one is a nationalist, and which one is a Marxist-Leninist?<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Stirs<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Ooooh! Oooh! Let me see, let me see, let me see. Okay, Celeste [Celeste Davis\/Celeste Vento]. Okay.<\/p>\n

Celeste<\/strong>: (off mic) Robert Mugabe\u2013<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Wait, wait, turn the microphone on now so she can get her treat, `cause everybody know that.<\/p>\n

Celeste<\/strong>: Robert Mugabe and Joshua Nkomo. Robert Mugabe\u2019s a Marxist and\u2013<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: A Marxist what?<\/p>\n

Celeste<\/strong>: Leninist\u2013<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: All right\u2013<\/p>\n

Celeste<\/strong>: \u2013and Joshua Nkomo\u2019s a nationalist.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, can I ask you one more question? Can I ask you one more question? Let\u2019s see, uh, a Marxist-Leninist means what?<\/p>\n

Celeste<\/strong>: When he cares about all the countries, and nationalist is when they care about one country.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Oh good, yeah, you beat me to the other question. Very good, give her a hand, that\u2019s good.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Oh, that\u2019s terrible. [chuckles] What happened to the pope, y\u2019all?<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Laughs. Calls out: \u201cHe died.\u201d<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: This is terrible. Who made up these questions? [Laughs] This is terrible. What happened to the pope? OK, Karl? Karl? Well, he\u2019s right here, he\u2019s right there. This is terrible.<\/p>\n

Karl<\/strong> Newell<\/strong>: He just died of a heart attack.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Where did he die? In his bed?<\/p>\n

Karl<\/strong>: In his bed.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Oh, that\u2019s terrible.<\/p>\n

[Crowd and Karl laughter]<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: How long had he been pope?<\/p>\n

Karl<\/strong>: Just two months.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Boy, God didn\u2019t hear him, did he?<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Laughter and low conversation<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, that\u2019s terrible, boy. Now, I know I\u2019m gonna get somebody on this one. What\u2019s happening in Nigeria? You think you know, number 12? Luigi [Lemoyne Newman]? Okay, you know that one too?<\/p>\n

Luigi<\/strong>: All right. Nigeria caught [President Jimmy] Carter trying to\u2013 trying to get the oil from the businesses, and the president and Britain went to Nigeria to talk about Libya, and uh, [pause] and uh, [stammers and consults with others in the crowd off mic]<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Take your time.<\/p>\n

[Luigi continues consulting with others off mic]<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Can you add anything else to that?<\/p>\n

Luigi<\/strong>: And\u2013 [Luigi continues consulting with others]<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay. Uh. The Prime Minister is going to have\u2013 uh, is going to talk about Zambia, and Ni\u2013 and Nigeria is moving more and more to the?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd<\/strong>: Left.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: To the left. Very good. Okay. Can anybody tell me, what is Zionism? What is Zionism? Okay, Christa [Amos].<\/p>\n

Christa<\/strong>: Zionism is\u2013 Zi\u2013 Zionism is Jewish nationalism and today [stutters], today it\u2019s occurring in\u2013 in Israel.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay. Very good. Thank you. That\u2019s right. You\u2019re right.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, who is [Zbigniew] Brzezinski? Now, everybody should know that one. Come on now, lemme see a whole bunch of hands on that one.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Stirs, boos<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Since many people know this, we outta throw this one out, huh?<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Stirs<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Oh, okay, Alfreda [March], let\u2019s see if you know.<\/p>\n

Alfreda<\/strong>: `K, Bre\u2013 Brzezinski had more power than [Henry] Kissinger ever\u2013 ever had or ever dreamed of. Brzezinski was put in power by David Rockefeller. Brzezinski didn\u2019t go around bragging about his power, but Kissinger did. The best thing that happened was when David Rockefeller was killed by a young, suicidal man [Rockefeller died of natural causes in 2017] and he\u2013 he wanted to do something with his life. And Brzezinski, he\u2013 that made him the head of the Trilatical [Trilateral] Commission. And Brzezinski\u2013 I mean the Trilatical Commission picked\u2013 handpicks the uh, presidents and stuff, and he didn\u2019t care if he got a paycheck or a [unintelligible word], and he\u2013 instead he picked Jimmy Carter, because Jimmy Carter didn\u2019t know his way to the bathroom in Washington, D.C.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Laughs uproariously<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Thank you very much. That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right. (Pause) Oh my. The things we learn over here. Okay. Whose idea\u2013 She\u2019s already given you one\u2013 one answer, right? Whose idea was the Trilateral Commission? Whose idea was that? Whose idea? Whose idea? Okay, Daren. [Aside to some people in the audience]: Shh, you guys stop, stop.<\/p>\n

Daren<\/strong> [likely Janaro or Swinney]: It was David Rockefeller\u2019s or the Chase Manhattan Bank and Brzezinski, the national security advisor and Carter\u2019s first aide.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, thank you. Very good.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Why was the Trilateral Commission set up? Who can answer that? Why was the Trilateral Commission set up? Steve?<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Chuckles and murmuring<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Where\u2019s Don Jackson?<\/p>\n

[Don Jackson speaking away from mic, too low]<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: [away from mic] I thought he knew the answer.<\/p>\n

Don Jackson<\/strong>: The capitalist world uh, was having a crisis back in 1971, and they were desperate and then they had to uh, organize to try to, uh take over the reins of uh, political power.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, very good.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, can anybody tell me who was put on the Trilateral Commission? (Pause) Can anybody tell me who is on the Trilateral Commission? OK, Albert [Touchette].<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Murmuring<\/p>\n

Albert<\/strong>: Okay, uh, people put on the Trilateral Commission is like big corporation leaders, like the B of A [Bank of America], Exxon, uh, Shell [Oil], big auto manufacturers, and banks. And they put on big uh, big labor bosses, and big media people, and they put on just other\u2013 other important individuals so they could appease these, the Democrats and the liberals and the Blacks, `cause they even put uh, Andy [Andrew] Young on the uh, Trilateral Commission.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Very good, Albert, very good.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, what was the Trilateral m\u2013 Trilateral Commission going to do about the US government? Can anybody answer that? That\u2019s a really uh\u2013 an opinion question. Let me ask one more time. What is the Trilateral Commission going to do about the US government? And you going to really get some in-depth on that one. Okay, Bob, you try it.<\/p>\n

Bob<\/strong>: Uh, the Trilateral Commission, uh, was going to pick the uh, President and the uh, Vice President of\u2013 of the United States, uh, Carter and [Walter] Mondale. Uh, this would give them uh, a way to control\u2013 to control the government, uh, this would make uh, Brzezinski a very powerful man, and he is\u2013 because he\u2019s the, uh, assistant to the President of the United States.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Very good. Thank you.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: What has Carter\u2019s administration done to follow the Trilateral line? Anybody care to answer that? Let\u2019s see some hands now. (Pause) Hear\u2013 did you\u2013 did you hear the question?<\/p>\n

Scattered in crowd<\/strong>: No.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: What has Carter\u2019s administration done to follow the Trilateral line? Okay, Cardell [Neal].<\/p>\n

Cardell<\/strong>: Everything. He has taken a pro-business line\u2013 he has taken a pro-business line while all along keeping the American public confused by talking out both sides of his mouth. Uh, he has advanced the\u2013 he has advanced the dollar to give more of a free hand to big\u2013 uh, to big business, to big business and oil interests. He also uh\u2013 he also restrained the dol\u2013 he also restrained the press while advancing the dollars, while advancing the dollars of oil interests, and big busi\u2013 and big business, and all, and uh, he also gave loans to dictators, to fascist dictatorships, and all along he\u2019d been talking about human rights.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Thank you, very good, very good.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Could Joe Wilson please come to the back of the stage and see the nurse? To back stage? Joe Wilson. Okay, what is Bonshowski\u2019s\u2013 Bon\u2013 Bonzhinski\u2019s [Brzezinski\u2019s] dream of the new age? Ah, let\u2019s see. Marie [Likely Exia Marie Duckett\/Rankin]?<\/p>\n

Marie<\/strong>: Uh, Brzezinski wants uh, to control the world totally by using computers, and he also wants total control of the world\u2019s economic\u2013 economics by uh, fascist dictatorships, uh, through the multinational corporations. Uh, I think that\u2019s the Trilateral Commission.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Very good. Very good.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, we have two more questions now. What is Brzezinski\u2019s position in all of this? What is his position? What is his position in all of this? Let\u2019s see, let\u2019s see. Hold your hands up now. Uh, think you can answer it, Tchabaka? Well, try it then.<\/p>\n

Tchabaka [Shawn] Baker<\/strong>: Uh, he\u2019s the security advisor, the head of the national security, and uh, he\u2019s the man behind the Trilateral Commission. He was with David Rockefeller but he\u2019s now dead, and uh, he has his\u2013 he\u2019s uh\u2013 he\u2019s uh, the top man on the nuclear arsenal.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Very good. Thank you. Thank you.<\/p>\n

[Woman in the background saying something about \u201cSecurity. He\u2019s security\u201d].<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Okay, the last question, if you get this right, we won\u2019t have anymore, but if you don\u2019t get this right, we\u2019ll have some more questions. Can anyone explain China\u2019s Doctrine of the Three Worlds<\/a>?<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Calls.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Let\u2019s see, uh, uh\u2013 Now if you don\u2019t get it right, be sure you get it right now. Jann Gurvich, let\u2019s see if you can get it.<\/p>\n

Jann<\/strong>: The Doctrine of Three Worlds is a doctrine which is promulgated by the People\u2019s Republic of China and it\u2019s\u2013 it\u2019s a fallacious doctrine. Uh, first, I\u2019ll set it out, and then I will criticize it. Uh, the First World is the US and the USSR, and they are called superpowers, which is a fallacy there, which we\u2019ll go into. The Second World is the European powers and Japan. The Third World is the so-called developing world, the\u2013 the Third World uh, of Latin America, Indochina and Africa. Uh, the policy\u2013 the doctrine is based on some major fallacies. First they say that uh, the Western imperialist\u2013 It\u2019s based on the idea that the Western imperialist bloc has disintegrated, which is clearly false. NATO still exists, Western imperialist powers get together to uh, inflict oppression on the people of Ethiopia, and other parts of South Africa, all over the world, so it is not true that the uh, Western imperialist bloc has disintegrated. This is one of the reasons that they base their doctrine on. Another thing is uh, China sees itself as the leader of the Third World, which is, in essence, not true at all, if you look at their\u2013 their, uh, track record, so to speak. Uh, China\u2019s been on the wrong side of too many conflicts in recent years. In Chile they did not support uh, [Salvador] Allende as the Soviets did, they closed their doors to the refugees. In uh, Angola in 1975, in that war of liberation, they supported the capitalist-backed imperialist powers of the FMLA and UNITA instead of supporting the Marxist group of Agostinho Neto. Again, we saw uh, China taking the\u00a0wrong side in a\u2013 a conflict in developing countries between Ethiopia and Somalia, where they took the side of the Somalis, along with the other aggressive powers of the United States and Saudi Arabia. So the concept of\u2013 of China as the leader of the Third World is clearly erroneous, and their practice is erroneous, which you can see by the examples of Chile, Angola, and Somalia. And it\u2019s also false, not only in the practice but in the theory based on the idea of this\u2013 the Western imperialist bloc has disintegrated, which is not true at all. It hasn\u2019t disintegrated, we see that with NATO. The real<\/em> leader of the Third World has been, and is now the Soviet Union, and they are on the correct side of every major liberation struggle we see, in South America, in Africa, all over the world. China attempts to wrest this position from them, but their practice and their theory both gives a lie to their doctrine.<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Very good, let\u2019s give her a hand for that. Let\u2019s give everybody<\/em> a hand that answered all their questions right.<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/strong>: Applause<\/p>\n

Two women arguing away from mic:<\/p>\n

Woman 1<\/strong>: Move out the way!<\/p>\n

Woman 2<\/strong>: Well, what you want me to do?<\/p>\n

Woman 1<\/strong>: You need to\u2013<\/p>\n

(Tape edit)<\/p>\n

Ingram<\/strong>: Uh\u2013 And I see that our\u2013 our question makers are gonna have to make the questions a little bit tougher, because everybody got all the questions right tonight. Okay, we\u2019ll have a film now, so if you\u2019ll just bear with them setting up the film, we\u2019ll be on it just shortly, okay? So, why won\u2019t you stand and stretch? And you know it\u2019s always good to have an attitude of gratitude, so tell your neighbor how to have a good attitude, please. Stand and stretch and tell them.<\/p>\n

General hubbub for several moments<\/p>\n

Two women continue arguing.<\/p>\n

Side 2<\/strong><\/p>\n

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