{"id":113278,"date":"2022-01-30T14:49:13","date_gmt":"2022-01-30T22:49:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=113278"},"modified":"2023-07-10T15:22:45","modified_gmt":"2023-07-10T22:22:45","slug":"q451-transcript","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=113278","title":{"rendered":"Q451 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To read the Tape Summary,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=113317\">click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (<a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q451%20(Side%20A).mp3\">Pt. 1<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q451%20(Side%20B).mp3\">Pt. 2<\/a>).<br \/>\nTo return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>[<strong>Editor\u2019s note<\/strong>: The first 9:40 minutes of this tape is unintelligible, due both to an electronic hum and an error either in the reproduction or \u2013 more likely \u2013 the initial recording.]<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Music of the Jonestown Express<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Song 1: \u201cI feel like making love to you\u201d by Roberta Flack<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2013And the feeling starts to flow<br \/>\nOo-oo-ooh, that\u2019s the time<br \/>\nI feel like making love to you<br \/>\nThat\u2019s the time<br \/>\nI feel like making dreams come true<br \/>\nOh babe<br \/>\nIn the restaurant<br \/>\nHolding hands by candlelight<br \/>\nWhen I&#8217;m touchin&#8217; you<br \/>\nWanting you with all my might<br \/>\nOo-oo-ooh<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the time<br \/>\nI feel like makin&#8217; love to you<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the time<br \/>\nI feel like makin&#8217; dreams come true<br \/>\nOh babe<br \/>\n[Instrumental break]<br \/>\nOo-oo-ooh, that\u2019s the time<br \/>\nI feel like making love to you<br \/>\nThat\u2019s the time<br \/>\nI feel like making dreams come true<br \/>\nOh babe<br \/>\nStrollin&#8217; in the park<br \/>\nWatchin&#8217; winter turn to spring<br \/>\nWalkin&#8217; in the dark<br \/>\nSeein&#8217; lovers do their thing<br \/>\nOo-oo-ooh<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the time<br \/>\nI feel like makin&#8217; love to you<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the time<br \/>\nI feel like makin&#8217; dreams come true<br \/>\nOh babe<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the time<br \/>\nYou know I feel like makin&#8217; love to you, babe<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the time<br \/>\nYou know I feel like makin&#8217; love to you, babe<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the time<br \/>\nYou know I feel like makin&#8217; love to you, babe<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Crowd<\/strong>: Applause.<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Unknown male<\/strong>: (unintelligible word) applause, please<\/p>\n<p><strong>Crowd<\/strong>: Applause.<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><em>Song 2: \u201cLove Song\u201d by Elton John<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The words I have to say will be simple but they\u2019re true<br \/>\nUntil you give your love<br \/>\nThere&#8217;s nothing else that we can do<\/p>\n<p>Love is the opening door<br \/>\nLove is what we came here for<br \/>\nNo one could offer you more<br \/>\nDo you know what I mean?<br \/>\nHave your eyes ever seen?<\/p>\n<p>You say it&#8217;s very hard<br \/>\nTo leave behind the life we knew<br \/>\nBut there&#8217;s no other way<br \/>\nAnd now it&#8217;s really up to, to you<\/p>\n<p>Love is the opening door<br \/>\nLove is what we came here for<br \/>\nNo one can offer you more<br \/>\nDo you know what I mean?<br \/>\nHave your eyes ever seen?<\/p>\n<p>Love is the key we must turn<br \/>\nTruth, it\u2019s the flame we must burn<br \/>\nFreedom is the word we must learn<br \/>\nYou know what I mean<br \/>\nHave your eyes ever seen?<\/p>\n<p>Love is the opening door<br \/>\nLove is what we came here for<br \/>\nNo one can offer you more<br \/>\nDo you know what I mean?<br \/>\nHave your eyes ever seen?<\/p>\n<p>Love is the key we must turn<br \/>\nTruth is the flame we must burn<br \/>\nFreedom the lesson we must learn<br \/>\nYou know what I mean<br \/>\nHave your eyes ever seen?<br \/>\nHave your eyes ever seen?<br \/>\nDo you know what I mean<br \/>\nDo you know what I mean<br \/>\nHave your eyes ever seen?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Crowd<\/strong>: Applause.<\/p>\n<p>[tape edit]<\/p>\n<p><em>Song 3: \u201cI Got Sunshine\u201d\/Imagination\u201d<\/em> (sung by Poncho Johnson)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019ve got sunshine on a cloudy day<br \/>\nWhen it&#8217;s cold outside<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve got the month of May<br \/>\nOoh, I guess you&#8217;d say<br \/>\nWhat can make me feel this way<\/p>\n<p>My girl<br \/>\nTalkin&#8217; &#8217;bout my girl, yeah<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve got so much money<br \/>\nThe bees envy me, yeah,<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve got a sweeter song, sweeter song, yes I have now<br \/>\nThan the birds in the trees<br \/>\nAnd I guess you&#8217;d say<br \/>\nWhat can make me feel this way<\/p>\n<p>My girl<br \/>\nTalkin&#8217; &#8217;bout my girl<\/p>\n<p>Oh right out my window, I watch her as she passes by<br \/>\nI say to myself, I\u2019m such a lucky guy<br \/>\nTo have a girl like her, is truly a dream come true<br \/>\nOut of all the fellas in the world, she belongs to you.<br \/>\nOh, It was just my imagination<br \/>\nJust my imagination<br \/>\nJust my imagination<br \/>\nRunnin&#8217; away with me<br \/>\nRunnin&#8217; away (calls out) Let the band play<\/p>\n<p>[Instrumental break]<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, I\u2019ve got sunshine on a cloudy day<br \/>\nDo you believe me now?<br \/>\nWhen it&#8217;s cold\u2013 When it&#8217;s cold outside<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve even got the month of May<br \/>\nYes I have now.<br \/>\nI guess you&#8217;d say, yeah,<br \/>\nWhat can make me feel this way<br \/>\nMy girl, my girl<br \/>\nTalkin&#8217; &#8217;bout my girl, my girl, my girl<\/p>\n<p>It was just my imagination<br \/>\nRunnin&#8217; away with me<br \/>\nYes it was now,<br \/>\nOh, each night I go to bed<br \/>\nI know it\u2019s my imagination<br \/>\nYes it is,<br \/>\nBecause my girl she\u2019s gone,<br \/>\nI said my girl she\u2019s gone,<br \/>\nYes she is<br \/>\nI said my girl she\u2019s gone<br \/>\nBelieve me, people,<br \/>\nIt\u2019s my imagination<br \/>\nYeah, my imagination<br \/>\nBelieve me now<br \/>\nJust my imagination<br \/>\nRunnin\u2019 away, yeah, yeah yeah,<br \/>\nYeah yeah yeah<br \/>\nYeah yeah yeah<br \/>\nClap your hands<br \/>\nYeah yeah yeah<br \/>\nYeah yeah yeah<br \/>\nI say we\u2019ve got a groove going now<br \/>\nEverybody clap your hands.<br \/>\nI said, it\u2019s just my imagination<br \/>\nEverybody say it with me<br \/>\nJust my imagination<br \/>\nJust my imagination<br \/>\nCome on, people,<br \/>\nJust my imagination<br \/>\nYeah yeah yeah<br \/>\nYeah yeah yeah<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Male voice<\/strong>: Poncho, Poncho, Poncho.<\/p>\n<p>Tape edit<\/p>\n<p><em>Song 4:<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It feels good, to rise with the morning bird,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to look at the setting sun,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to see all the work we\u2019ve done,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to sing to the rain.<\/p>\n<p>The sun, the moon, the two can fly<br \/>\nThe painted clouds caress the sky<br \/>\nSocialist vision fills ours eyes<br \/>\nAs we build, our future is now.<\/p>\n<p>It feels good, to work in the eddoe fields<br \/>\nIt feels good, to eat what our labor yields,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to work with you side by side,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to sing to the rain.<\/p>\n<p>The sun, the moon, the two can fly<br \/>\nThe painted clouds caress the sky<br \/>\nSocialist vision fills ours eyes<br \/>\nAs we build, our future is now.<\/p>\n<p>It feels good, to watch all the children grow<br \/>\nLike healthy banana trees in a row<br \/>\nIt feels good, to watch little children smile<br \/>\nIt feels good, to sing to the rain.<\/p>\n<p>To all of our distinguished guests<br \/>\nWelcome you to this land so blessed<br \/>\nWe\u2019re proud to stand as socialists<br \/>\nWelcome now, and share our new home<\/p>\n<p>La la la<\/p>\n<p>It feels good, to rise with the morning bird,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to look at the setting sun,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to see all the work we\u2019ve done,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to sing to the rain.<\/p>\n<p>The sun, the moon, the two can fly<br \/>\nThe painted clouds caress the sky<br \/>\nSocialist vision fills ours eyes<br \/>\nAs we build, our future is now.<\/p>\n<p>La, la la<\/p>\n<p>It feels good, to rise with the morning bird,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to look at the setting sun,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to see all the work we\u2019ve done,<br \/>\nIt feels good, to sing to the rain.<\/p>\n<p>The sun, the moon, the two can fly<br \/>\nThe painted clouds caress the sky<br \/>\nSocialist vision fills ours eyes<br \/>\nAs we build, our future is now.<\/p>\n<p>La, la, la<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Crowd:<\/strong> Applause<\/p>\n<p>[Tape edit]<\/p>\n<p><em>Song 5: Variation on \u201cYou are so beautiful to me\u201d by Joe Cocker<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Guyana is so beautiful<br \/>\nTo me<br \/>\nGuyana is so beautiful<br \/>\nTo all of us here<br \/>\nYes it is,<br \/>\nIt\u2019s everything I\u2019d ever hoped for<br \/>\nAnd it\u2019s everything, everything to me<br \/>\nYeah, yeah,<br \/>\nGuyana is so beautiful<br \/>\nTo me<br \/>\nGuyana is so beautiful<br \/>\n(Speaks) If you know it, sing with me<br \/>\n(Sings) To me<br \/>\nGuyana is so beautiful<br \/>\nTo me<br \/>\nYes I see<br \/>\nIt\u2019s everything I\u2019d ever hoped for, hoped for, hoped for<br \/>\nAnd it\u2019s everything, everything to me<br \/>\nYeah<br \/>\nGuyana is so beautiful<br \/>\nClaps your hands, y\u2019all,<br \/>\nGuyana is so beautiful<br \/>\nLet the world know it<br \/>\nGuyana is so beautiful<br \/>\nClaps your hands, Claps your hands,<br \/>\nGuyana<br \/>\nOne more time, one more time,<br \/>\nSay it again<br \/>\nGuyana is so beautiful<br \/>\nTo me, yeah, yeah, yeah.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>[Tape edit]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Unknown Woman<\/strong>: \u2013dearly and cared for. <strong>Chris Lewis<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Crowd:<\/strong> Applause<\/p>\n<p><em>Song 6: Variation of \u201cYoung, Gifted &amp; Black\u201d by Nina Simone<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>To be strong, gifted and black<br \/>\nOh what a lovely precious thing,<br \/>\nOh when you\u2019re<br \/>\nWhen you\u2019re<br \/>\nWhen you\u2019re strong, gifted and black<br \/>\nWe must begin to tell our people<br \/>\nIn a cold world, you know,<br \/>\nThere are millions of boys and girls<br \/>\nWho are strong, gifted and black<br \/>\nThey got their souls intact<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nTo be strong, gifted and black<br \/>\nWe must begin to tell our people<br \/>\nThere\u2019s a world waiting for you<br \/>\nOurs is a quest that\u2019s just begun<br \/>\nWhen you\u2019re feelin\u2019 real low<br \/>\nThere\u2019s a great truth we all should remember, I know<br \/>\nThat we are strong, gifted and free<br \/>\nWe got our souls intact,<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nWe are strong, gifted and free<br \/>\nWe must begin to tell our people<br \/>\nThere\u2019s a world waiting for you<br \/>\nOurs is a quest that\u2019s just begun<br \/>\nWhen you\u2019re feelin\u2019 real low<br \/>\nThere\u2019s a great truth we all should remember, I know<br \/>\nThat we are strong, gifted and free<br \/>\nWe got our souls intact,<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nCome on, y\u2019all<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nAnd that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nI know that\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nWe are free, we are free<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nWe are free<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nWe are free<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nWe are free, free, free<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nLet it ring<br \/>\nWe are free, free, free,<br \/>\nThat\u2019s a fact<br \/>\nCome on, y\u2019all<br \/>\nWe are free<br \/>\nOh, that\u2019s a fact<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>[Crowd picks up song]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Man:<\/strong> I\u2019d like to thank everybody for coming. Keep on singing, \u2018cause it shows them that we believe in. Thank you very much. That\u2019s the end of our show. Come on.<\/p>\n<p>[Crowd picks up song]<\/p>\n<p>[Tape edit]<\/p>\n<p><em>Song 7:<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019ll make the first step<br \/>\nAnd you will make the next<br \/>\nAnd we\u2019ll join hands<br \/>\nThe farther, we go<br \/>\nThe hills may sometime seem hard for you to climb<br \/>\nBut I know we can make it by and by<br \/>\nWe\u2019ll go on fighting<br \/>\nTo the end<br \/>\nTo live just together in peace<br \/>\nI\u2019ll make the first step<br \/>\nThen you will make the next<br \/>\nAnd we\u2019ll join hands<br \/>\nThe farther, we go<br \/>\nThe hills may sometime seem hard for you to climb<br \/>\nBut I know this we will make it by and by.<br \/>\nOh, we\u2019ll go on fighting<br \/>\nTo this end<br \/>\nTo live together in peace<br \/>\nTogether in peace<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Crowd:<\/strong> Applause<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones<\/strong>: I suppose since Charles Garry came into our lives, nothing has given me as much consolation as this gentleman who is our guest tonight. Joseph Mazor. He has brought out facts that will incriminate [Tim] Stoen for all the deeds he lost for you, for all the falsehoods (unintelligible word) gave you, for all of the things that he took advantage of you as individual members, and I think that might be good news. I suppose we shouldn\u2019t take joy in anyone\u2019s hurt, but if he, as we know, was one sick person, and I thought I\u2019d like to know, this man does have the goods on him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Crowd:<\/strong> Applause<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mazor<\/strong>: What am I supposed to say, anything? Well, (short laugh) (several words too low). There is really nothing I <em>can<\/em>say. I brought you information which uh, I think had we as (Pause) people got together uh, six months ago, you might not\u2019ve gone through all the pain that you have. But uh, sometimes the communications fall down, particularly in the legal field, as Charles will tell you, and one of the problems we\u2019ve had is trying to (Pause) look at everyone, both sides, the uh, people who are ex-Temple members who make complaints, and the people who are sitting over here, 5000 miles away, and not make any <em>judgments<\/em>, but yet, try and get all the information you can. As I\u2019ve told Charles, we have about 53,000 pages of documents, which we\u2019ve put together over 18 months. We have enough information to convict several people of various crimes, perjury, conspiracy, and like that. It doesn\u2019t mean they\u2019ll go to jail <em>forever<\/em>, but at least it means uh, some of the things which the Temple <em>may<\/em> have been wrongly charged with, uh, at least the record will be set straight. Thank you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Crowd:<\/strong> Applause<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To read the Tape Summary,\u00a0click here. 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