{"id":13204,"date":"2013-02-17T21:50:11","date_gmt":"2013-02-17T21:50:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=13204"},"modified":"2024-02-02T13:54:32","modified_gmt":"2024-02-02T21:54:32","slug":"peoplesrallies8","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=13204","title":{"rendered":"Peoples Rally of January 14, 1978"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>C-11-d-9a<\/p>\n<p>PEOPLES RALLY NOTES, 14-1-78<\/p>\n<p>Before rally \u2013 Dad read us the news.<\/p>\n<p><u>Announcements<\/u>: Johnny Jones<\/p>\n<p>All supervisors must turn in the names of their crews to Maria McCann. This is to be turned in Saturday night before Peoples Rally.<\/p>\n<p>Song: \u201cKeeps on doing great things for me\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGarden Crew\u201d Don\u2019t Forget \u2013 when the revolution comes<\/p>\n<p>Song: No, we don\u2019t mind dying, we will never say a word. Hell may be around red as fire, but socialism, it came for me and now it speaks, you see. This is a revolution and it will never know defeat.<\/p>\n<p>Dad asked for questions:<\/p>\n<p>Debbie asked about Lenin \u2013 how he died and about Stalin (means Dad said Stalin means man of Steel. Stalin inherited a revolution that was started in Russia. He fought his way to success from an impovished [impoverished] background. His mother tried to draw him to the priesthood. In 1917 he fought a revolution, he became leader of Russia in 1923. Barely 6 years after the revolution. Capitalist ambitions didn\u2019t die easy. Marx and Engels proclaimed capitalism was a superior system. It was advance to all systems before it. It gave some form of representation but it would not be satisfactory because of the class system \u2013 no equality. Love or lust of money would lead to its destruction. A few would have all the wealth. Two classes \u2013 wager &amp; the ones who owned it. First when the theory of Marx was tried in Russia they had capitalist ambitions. Stalin had to lead the people through conspiracy and the major power of Germany \u2013 the conspiracy was funded by leading industries of the USA. In World War II, Rockefeller was making money on both sides \u2013 he owned factories in Germany. Stalin had a progressive government until the late 1929. He established communal and agricultural production. Imperialist agents bought off some of his generals in his army and his staff. It almost brought destruction. He arrested them and had some killed. He began a great purge. Some were put in camps, institutions or slain. When Hitler invaded them they were only 16 years removed from feudalism. They resisted until they committed suicide rather than let them take them \u2013 they held out 3 years and never surrendered. They wouldn\u2019t have been able to resist if Stalin had been a bad man. They made circle around their city like we do and had to eat their own dead.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>C-11-d-9b<\/p>\n<p>The capitalist could not break through. Moscow fought off Germany as Stalin was being fired on. Stalin wore used clothes and left no inheritance. His daughter left and went to the US. America didn\u2019t win it. It was won in Stalingrad, the city named after their leader. The seniors fought with pitch forks and they kept on marching. When the middle aged went forth \u2013 the enemy never saw such a fate [feat] of heroism \u2013 with astonishment the enemy general got under his tank. They turned back the Nazi army.<\/p>\n<p>Diane Lundquist asked about <u>Leon Troski<\/u> [Trotsky]:<\/p>\n<p>Dad said Troski never believed in building anything. He caused bush fires everywhere. He wanted to venture out into Russia, China and Cuba with infiltration. He probably would have made a good leader, believed you should export into other nations first. Should get those established presently in international revolution. Believed in no national boundaries. It doesn\u2019t work. He thought it should take place immediately \u2013 wanted to start fires all over. He wanted funds from Russia. (Not sure Russia had him killed) \u2013 probably because he was no longer reactionary. (Marx has been right in predictions about capitalists \u2013 it will fail). But thought it would take place in an industrial country, but instead in an agricultural setting. We believe Marx theory was the best theory of economics to go by. We don\u2019t say Lenin was perfect and neither was Stalin. (Sebalina\u2014Stalin\u2019s daughter). Stalin died of a cerebral accident \u2013 he had maintained life for some days then died. It was said that people worshipped him too much. Sebalina was a strong supporter of her dad. He was not forced to retire \u2013 they removed him. Stalin had to be tough.<\/p>\n<p>Dad said he\u2019s tired of gossip \u2013 Dad said he has two children one person had to be trained to fuck. Kimo [Prokes] is Dad\u2019s son. He knows how to teach people. It\u2019s a burden to have sex with people you love. If you really need pleasure you could get out and find it in the night. Dad said he only has two sons. One is little and one very tall. Dad believes in general love \u2013 doesn\u2019t love one more than the other. Dad mentioned how Grace [Stoen] had wanted him to marry her. Dad said we ought not to be moved by physical appearance. We should like people out of character.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>C-11-d-9c<\/p>\n<p><u>PEOPLES RALLY NOTES, 14-1-78<\/u><\/p>\n<p>Dad said people take special rights and will come into services \u2013 should not be in back. Some continue to take special privileges and insist on working with those you like. Dad said he had to fuck all night once with someone he hated. This made him holier than Jesus. The end justifies the means. Dad said people have no right to think they\u2019re close to him because they have a special knowledge. Said no one is indispensable. Some will never change unless he slaps them down. Dad said he was sick of playing. His sugar is 45 \u2013 should be 90. He mentioned how they went through one winter with no food, his Dad threw him off a bridge, and ice used to form on his cover. Psychologically that would make him very mean, but he is very caring. To be unified it takes discipline. We would have an almost spartan society producing.<\/p>\n<p>Some people refuse to be kind to people. Many leaders are that way. We have some that are kind, but very few. Dad said some people are not heard. Dad said he\u2019s given his children more than if he had been a capitalist parent. We are supposed to be \u2013o\u2013 [unintelligible?]. We should think about black children starving to death in Africa. We are all guilty as it was our dollars that paid them.<\/p>\n<p>Someone took Dad\u2019s pants from the crates. Inspection Committee should look into this. Some didn\u2019t show up for the water brigade. Laziness doesn\u2019t go in socialism. Some would starve to death. Some have accidents all the time to keep out of work.<\/p>\n<p><u>Joyce Lund<\/u> [Rozynko] asked about the term Marxist\/Leninist \u2013 Marxist is the theory and Lenin \u2013 put it in to practice \u2013 adopted it to condition\/established it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>C-11-d-9d<\/p>\n<p>EILEEN TUCKER:<\/p>\n<p>Asked how to be a \u2013o\u2013. Dad said to imagine thinking less of yourself as some have had more pain than others. Dad told her to think of people that were being beat to death in Africa by our tax dollars.<\/p>\n<p><u>Jack Barron<\/u> ask about Troski again: Dad said he was too idealistic. He didn\u2019t think \u2013 his concept was to start a national revolution \u2013 it wouldn\u2019t work no more than if we tried to take over Port Kaituma. We should produce so we can bring people in. If we produce enough we can override the problem. Dad said as long as we produce they will be hesitant to come in, as long as we stay strong. The govt. kicked [Tim] Stoen out \u2013 US threatens to kick out Guyanese in the US \u2013 we have been paying a price all the days of our lives. Did we think we would have a beautiful land and wouldn\u2019t have to fight for it. Dad mentioned the Mitchell\u2019s saying that they have found something to die for. Dad said some complained about there wasn\u2019t enough meat. Some have been ill and too out of jails. People are not grateful enough. Some should quick [quit] taking all of these breaks.<\/p>\n<p><u>Warnings<\/u>: Supervisors \u2013 should be able to take criticisms. Some are bothered by consultation. One supervisor\/coordinator gets pist [pissed]. Slow to admit they have been forgetting things. We won\u2019t tolerate it. She works well and fast, but this must be changed.<\/p>\n<p>Praises from Marie Lawrence: Barbara Walker, Tarik Baker and Nicki L. [Lawrence]. Dad said he is suspicious of crew writing all praises.<\/p>\n<p>Laura Johnson [Johnston] crew: Guy Mitchell \u2013 good attitude \u2013 Betty Fitch \u2013 good worker. Jerome Anderson \u2013 cooperates, cut hand and kept working. (Extra cookies) Other praises: Jocelyn Carter, Diane Lundquist are doing good. Mary Wotherspoon \u2013 good. Teresa King, Joan Johnson, Diane McKnight and Diana Marshall.<\/p>\n<p><u>Rhonda Page<\/u>: Defensive \u2013 (Last warning)<\/p>\n<p>Netra [Tinetra] Fain \u2013 talks too much.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>C-11-d-9e<\/p>\n<p><u>PEOPLES RALLY NOTES, 14-1-78<\/u><\/p>\n<p><u>Elli Beam<\/u> \u2013 Always getting assignments that will take her off the job (warning)<\/p>\n<p><u>Earnestine March<\/u> \u2013 good worker \u2013 talks too much \u2013 pouts when things don\u2019t go her way. (From Becky Flowers)<\/p>\n<p><u>Elli Beam<\/u> \u2013 Told Shirley all the chicks were broken up including she and Jocelyn, Stan &amp; Tanya. Elli aaid that was her understanding why Jan broke up all the crews. (<u>Learning Crew<\/u>)<\/p>\n<p><u>Julie Cordell<\/u> \u2013 Learning Crew<\/p>\n<p><u>Willie Malone<\/u> \u2013 Learning Crew<\/p>\n<p><u>Karen Carr<\/u> \u2013 off<\/p>\n<p><u>Jim Bogue<\/u> wants to change name to <u>Murrall<\/u> \u2013 Approved.<\/p>\n<p><u>Linda Sadler<\/u> \u2013 hard to get a hold of \u2013 didn\u2019t return to children \u2013 feels she should be warned (<u>Learning Crew<\/u>)<\/p>\n<p>Jocelyn\u2019s crew: Stanley Clayton \u2013 Dad told him he should be thankful \u2013 they had a contract out on him. Dad asked him who was after him. He said he didn\u2019t know. (His work is good \u2013 talks too much) Leslie [Wagner] supports him. Leslie feels Jocelyn sometimes doesn\u2019t work that hard.<\/p>\n<p><u>Leslie Wagner<\/u> said she feels she should be on learning (<u>Learning Crew<\/u>). Shirley Hicks feels Stanley has straightened up lately. Dad asks Stan if he knew how Cris [Chris Lewis] died \u2013 he was killed with different weapons. He walked a block 1\/2 with holes in him tried to tell who did it. Police killed him. They immediately took the car away. His body was riddled with holes. Stan was given a chance.<\/p>\n<p><u>Vicki Marshall<\/u> \u2013 needs to improve.<\/p>\n<p><u>Darlene Newman<\/u> \u2013 works well.<\/p>\n<p>Someone feels John has been late for school. Bea Orsot wrote it. Bea says Becky told her. Dad said it\u2019s not wise to cause alienation in a child with all that is going on. Bea &amp; Becky given (warning). Dad says he felt it was hostilities directed towards him.<\/p>\n<p>Lue Ester [Lewis] said Bea didn\u2019t write herself up when she let the dog eat out of her plate. Tom Grubbs says he was also responsible \u2013 he should have known what the child was going through. Other children have been late too.<\/p>\n<p>Need more Learning Crew supervisors \u2013 <u>Ava<\/u> Ingram asked to be teaching crew supervisor.<\/p>\n<p>Parents and relatives are not to ask when their child is to get off.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>C-11-d-9f<\/p>\n<p>Ronnie Dennis \u2013 off, Wayne McCall \u2013 3 more days, threw fit. Vincent Lopez off, James Ford \u2013 off, Tyrone Cartmell \u2013 off, (works better when not with Mark Rhodes), Trinidet Baisy \u2013 off, Jair Baker \u2013 off (w\/ Penny [Kerns] at night and back to Jocelyn\u2019s crew). Rose McKnight \u2013 off, Odell R. [Rhodes] \u2013 not working hard enough.<\/p>\n<p><u>Mealnie [Melanie] Briedenbach<\/u> \u2013 Lazy \u2013 doesn\u2019t take confrontation in bakery. (warning)<\/p>\n<p>* People need to drink more water. People are getting lot of infections from not drinking enough water. Should drink 16 glasses a day.<\/p>\n<p><u>Mealnie Briedenbach<\/u>: Dad asked her if she had any letters from Grace Stoen \u2013 some said she did and reads them all the time. She said she doesn\u2019t have any \u2013 says she would kill her if she had a chance. Says she and Ellen doesn\u2019t get along well (chance). Dad told her she should have that guilt. She used money that Grace had stolen. If we had known \u2013 we could have made some difference.<\/p>\n<p>Warning: No learning crew members.<\/p>\n<p><u>Pancho<\/u> [Poncho Johnson] talked to learning crew and laughed \u2013 his companion says he does tease people. (<u>warning<\/u>)<\/p>\n<p><u>SAT clothes<\/u> are needed \u2013 some are wearing them for work clothes.<\/p>\n<p><u>Radio<\/u>: Order more fatigues. Bob Davis and Tommy Walker has some.<\/p>\n<p><u>Marthea Hicks<\/u>: Says people shouldn\u2019t be discussing physical problems with others outside of the doctor or nurses. Says it\u2019s very out of order. They should be turned into gratitudes.<\/p>\n<p><u>ODELL RHODES<\/u>: Request a job change \u2013 injury giving him a problem. Dad said be grateful. Wanting to get out of something so bad to get a disease you don\u2019t want.<\/p>\n<p>People are to write special letters \u2013 letters protesting Stoens being able to come here.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">By: Vernetta Christian<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Array<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":13194,"menu_order":7,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-13204","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/13204","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=13204"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/13204\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":125831,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/13204\/revisions\/125831"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/13194"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=13204"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}