D-2-A-1A<\/p>\n
Memo to attorney for the Temple regarding several properties, Summer\/fall 1978<\/strong><\/p>\n MARSHALL SCHWARTZ \u2013 we talked to him (Leona [Collier], Vee [Hollins], Mac [Jim McElvane] and I) after talking to Don Freed. This was not the ideal situation, but Mac had scheduled the appointment and it was not possible to not have everyone go. He gave pertinent and information points very concisely and filled a half-hour with much help. Said he had read the L.A. Times article on Medlocks, so knew of it. He was warm, and asked right off if we were intending to dump White at the start of the conflict of interest.<\/p>\n One thing he mentioned about the suits, that if there are several of this typ of suit filed against a charity, the AG will be activited to look into the organization. It is the AG\u2019s duty to see that all charitable organizations perform as they are charged, and the funds spend accordingly. Said he has a close rapport with the Deputy AG in LA named Larry Tapper, in case we need help in the future in that regard. I asked, without saying why, if he knew of a Michael Nash in Deputy AG office in L.A. he said no and did not ask further about it.<\/p>\n Re. the ranch sale, he said in the tax deferred property exchange that he would run through all the papers for us to see if the deal were safe. He will see we are cleared of whatever warranties we are giving his (Carrington \u2013 the buyer) buyer he endemnifies us for. In other words, that we are held harmless in the exchange.<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n [page 2 of memo missing]<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-A-1B<\/p>\n -3-<\/p>\n He recommended we stay away from putting our resources in the B of A [Bank of America] in Guyana or any American bank. He did not go to lengths with this,\u2028but intimated they were not secure in such a situation.<\/p>\n His recommendation would be to get George off the case from the start. Of course, he does not know all the background, but his point\u2028seems valid. If we do not protest, we lose our right to object to him as the attorney.<\/p>\n He will post any interested clients in the\u2028real estate up for exchange for an airplane. He will have a letter no later than end of\u2028by-laws. He has been remiss in this. He offered he had been remiss. Seemed apologetic.<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-A2<\/p>\n He also was concerned with the Channel 2 coverage and wanted detailed information about the petition, the names of the people and actually who they had overseas as relarives. So we broke the list down again the next say and delivered the report to him. He basically seemed to understand the nature of the hostile, anti-black anti-socialist press. He gave<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-A-4<\/p>\n page 5<\/p>\n his own exapmles of the same \u2013 i.e. coverage of the war in Zaire. They always mention the white bodies, but what about the black bodies left in the streets, too? We explained the characters of the Channel 2 broadcast, gave the background on John Haynes and Mrs. Fields family overseas. He said he did not understand why the press aired that stuff (or was that just an American phenomenon that when family members should choose to live apart from the mothers and fathers. \u2013 especially a black country \u2013 that the news finds that a newsworthy story?) He said many Guyanese choose to live in a foreign country and sure it causes parents distress \u2013 but it is not news. Well, we worked with all that to show him the biased nature of the coverage. He said the news should consult with him, with [U.S. Consul Richard] McCoy, with the Guyanese government before airing that stuff. They have all been checked out. We agreed, but again said it was because we\u2019re socialist, and we had learned to expect nothing but bad treatment from the press. He said he would call Channel 2 and inform them of their error, but I doubt he did. He said \u2013 when we later asked him about it \u2013 that he would have to weigh advantages over disadvantages. Would a small retraction really help, when they might just lash out more vindictively the next time? He is cautious and says nothing to commmit himself in any way.<\/p>\n Later, the next day, I went back to deliver some papers. I had called the hotel and there was no answer, so I took some papers he had asked for (copies of the Moore\u2019s statements) and sat in the lobby. I called several times and finally when I called he was in his room. Tom was there, sitting in the lobby, too. He asked me to come up to the room with the papers. He talked further about Channel 2, and then I took the occasion to ask him about John [Victor Stoen]. That is when he started to make suggestions around the issue \u2013 such as JJ use Lucy\u2019s help to try to assist Frances, or even try to assist himself or some other third party. (It was extremely shallow and chauvinistic on his part. He was evidencing his position that everything involving women can be settled with a fuck.) He kept asking why I \u2013 just like Paula and others he knows from the Temple \u2013 all sound alike on that issue. I kept insisting that there was no compromise on the issue, that we would simply not give over the child come what may. He asked if we would defy a Guyanese court order if it came to that. I said that we simply would not let anyone, whether this child or any other child or person, be taken against their will or be used as a pawn because the issue was not the child \u2013 the issue was that the conspiracy was trying any and every method to get William. I kept on like this, and he pulled me down on his chest and tried to kiss me. He said one thing was true of all the Temple women he had met \u2013 they were all irresistible. I pulled away and said I had too much feeling and loyalty to my friend Paula, and I knoew how much she cared for him. I simply could not do it. He said what had he asked me to do \u2013 she would never know \u2013 etc. and tried to kiss me some more. I stood up and said it was my problem but I had too much guilt and I would have to go. He said a few more lame things and I left. It was excruciating. Later that day when he came over for lunch and to see the building he was quiet, very observant of everything, but non-committal and not very communicative. He was noticeably impressed with the building, and when we took him back to the hotel he asked Mac if he would go out drinking with him. The problem, he was saying, with Temple people is they don\u2019t drink. He never called back after that. Tom and others kept a constant watch on the hotel from the lobby and saw him come in and go out with a variety of people, but none of whom they recognized as Stoen \u201cor any we would know. Mostly date-type companions, double dates etc. Overall, the visit here was social, I think, but we would have no way of knowing whom he called or saw when he went out.<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-A-14<\/p>\n Debbie Touchette notes of meeting with <\/strong>attorney J.T. Clarke re: Stoens, October 8, 1978<\/strong><\/p>\n Deborah Touchette J.T. Clarke \u2013 We talked to him on Thursday, I asked him if he had herd anything about the situation involving John Stoen, and that situation<\/p>\n \u2013 He said we had nothing to worry about, that is taken care of, you people worry unnecessarily. He said that is being sat on, thats the governments way of handling the situation diplomatically.<\/p>\n \u2013 He claimed that there was no order out for Jims arrest, he said there was a order to serve papers, but no order for his arrest, but that was no good at this point because no judge was handling the case.<\/p>\n \u2013 He said the govt. made there position known to Judge Bishop and rather then make a decision, he claimed that he was receiving phone calls from both sides which prohibited him from making a decission fairly, so his diplomatic approch to the situation was to hand the case over to Judge Bollers<\/p>\n \u2013 and Judge Bollers, he thought would not re-assign the case, he would let it sit.<\/p>\n \u2013 I asked him how long a case could sit before it was consirded no longer any good<\/p>\n \u2013 or could not be USED in court.<\/p>\n \u2013 he sadi five years<\/p>\n \u2013 So you think they will let the case sit for five years\u2026.? I asked.<\/p>\n \u2013 he shook his head yes.<\/p>\n \u2013 he said there was never a problem for Jim to travel, and there is no problem now. (he had the files on the Stoen Case on his desk)<\/p>\n \u2013 he told us he would like for us to come out to his home one week-end and spend it with him and his wife, siad we could come to his home first, because he wanted to return the favor of us having him and his wife at our home.<\/p>\n \u2013 he said he hopped to come to J\/town before the end of the year.<\/p>\n \u2013 he had previously asked Terri & I out to lunch, but he could not make the date because he held over in court, but offered to do it another time.<\/p>\n \u2013 I told him you were very concerned about his health, and wanted to know how he was doing?<\/p>\n \u2013 He said thank you very much, he was doing much better, that he had overtaxed himself this week, he and his wife had been working out in the pig pens and had to attend a funurel in town shortly after they finished thier work.<\/p>\n \u2013 He said to give love to Cde. Jones, he hoped to come out here soon<\/p>\n \u2013 he asked that we don\u2019t keep that man couped up there, let him travel to get his medical attention. He seemed deeply concerned when he said this, it was said with a lot of feeling<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-K-9A<\/p>\n Draft of letter to attorney J.T. Clarke on issues facing Jonestown, September 1978<\/strong><\/p>\n [Editor\u2019s note<\/strong>: This letter was supposedly written by Temple attorney Eugene Chaikin. However, his name is misspelled on every page.]<\/em><\/p>\n [first paragraph illegible]<\/p>\n The first issue is that of VINCENT LOPEZ, JR. Vincent was born on 26 February, 1963. Accordingly, he is now 15 years and 7 months of age. He first come to the project in June of 1976, and has remained there ever since. He was sent here by his legal guardian, one Walter Jones, Jr. The guardianship was formally established in the superior Court of Alameda County, California.<\/p>\n From the time he entered Guyana, he has been here ever since; and his guardian, who brought him here, was in Guyana only once briefly in 1976. For all intents and purposes, Vincent is a self-supporting member of our community. Neither Vincent nor I have received any communication from Walter Jones since July of 1976. Consequent on my being down here, last month I arranged to have a motion filed to be released as attorney of record in the guardianship case because I was not in a position to make the formal court reports required in that I had no way of communicating with Walter Jones. Nevertheless, Walter Jones has been for several years a member of the group in the United States that has been functioning with hostility towards our community.<\/p>\n Walter Jones is the lover of Grace Stoen and the person that she ran off with at the time she abandoned John, and of course, Vincent was abandoned by Walter as well in the process. (Grace left with Walter after Jim Jones refused to be whitemailed* by her into marriage. She took up with him out of spite. He is a known racist and hated Blacks, Indians, etc. She was told in the first place that Jim Jones was not romantically involved with her and he told that. Her husband had asked him to do it to keep her from lying and<\/p>\n *we say whitemailed because of the derogatory use of black, as in black, black-balled, blackened you name, etc. \u2013 is racist usage.<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-K-9B<\/p>\n Chaiken: Clarke -2-<\/p>\n and hurting people as she had strong right-wing press connections at that time. In an act of showing hostility to Jim\u2019s child, Grace would take the child into the garage and would tell him that she was going to make love. The child has it implanted in his brain; we have not talked about it in some months, but I presume he still has it there though we have tried to get his mind off of it. He was locked in this garage and listening to them jump up and down on the bed, caused him to try to jump off a balcony. If she were a sane woman, and not filled with insane passions, Jim would never have gone through this \u2013 so much cost, and put our people through so many dangers and made conspirators much more vicious against us.)<\/p>\n Our question is simply put: What defenses if any, would exist in the event that Walter Jones were to attempt to retrieve Vincent from Guyana using legal process? Secondly, if defenses do exist, is there anything we can do between this date and Vincent\u2019s sixteenth birthday to better secure his legal right to remain in Guyana? If adoption is an alternative, please outline the steps that should be taken. (I believe that his mother is dead, and his father in jail.)<\/p>\n The next subject deals with a financial transaction that we would like to enter into which would require, we feel, your help in obtaining governmental approval. We are presently holding checks (mostly Social Security income) issue from the United States in U.S. dollars to residents of Jonestown, which have been endorsed by them in blank. We need to utilize these funds which would total perhaps several thousands of dollars for the purchase of certain equipment in the United States and England to be sent here: primarily mechanical equipment and sheet aluminum. We do not have that much [illegible] and we are not yet self-sufficient by any means and with all of the work that our free medical clinic does, taking so many Guyanese in our headquarters, and giving the free medical care here [illegible 3 words] was agency called the best free medical clinic [illegible balance of page]<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-K-9C<\/p>\n Chaiken: Clarke -3-<\/p>\n The United States or England either by (a) re-deposit in an account which we would establish, or (b) by means of drafts written directly from the Bank of Guyana\u2019s New York account. In that we have ordered goods in the United States and England, the funds would remain unused for a period of three to four weeks only. We would like you to approach the officials of the Bank of Guyana and, if possible, work out this transaction, giving us the detailed steps of how it is to be completed.<\/p>\n We would of course be most concerned about the charges the bank would impose for this service. In that we would be using the bank as an agent for collection of the checks only, it appears to us that normal bank charges with respect to currency exchange transactions would not be applicable. We are hoping that this particular item would receive your immediate attention in that we are currently very much pressed to receive the goods that can be purchased with these funds.<\/p>\n The next subject matter deals with our new Guyanese cooperation. We would like to know it\u2019s status at this time. Further, we have the following questions: First, is it required that Guyanese citizens be directors of the corporation? If so, what percentage of the directors? Further, we would wish to know if it is possible that certain prestigious Guyanese such as yourself might be willing to [illegible] as members of the Board, and, if, in your opinion, it would be in your best interest to make such an arrangement.<\/p>\n As you know, we keep funds in an \u201cexternal account.\u201d There seems to be some question as to whether or not changing [illegible balance of page]<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-K-9D<\/p>\n Chaiken: Clarke -4-<\/p>\n answers to these questions into writing, but it is our hope that ultimately, it will create a savings in time on both of our behalfs in that questions that have been put, need be answered only once, and that we will have a clearer line of communication and a more accurate reference for our concerns. If you would be so kind as to prepare a memo or letter of response, we will see to it that someone from our Georgetown office will pick it up from your office as soon as he or she is notified that it is prepared, and will see to it that it is forwarded to me in Jonestown.<\/p>\n Please accept our warmest regards to yourself and your father.<\/p>\n Cooperatively Yours, EBC: tl [Tish Leroy]<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-L-1<\/p>\n Debbie Touchette report of meeting with Lionel Luckhoo, June 28, 1978<\/strong><\/p>\n Lionel Luckhoo<\/p>\n w\/Marceline [Jones], Sharon [Amos], Deb. T. [Touchette]<\/p>\n June 28, 1978 \u2013 Marceline asked Lionel if it would be possible to write a letter asking Tim Stoen to take a test to prove fatherhood of the child.<\/p>\n \u2013 Lionel said it would be of no use in the courts here, but because of the publicity given to our situation it could be done by our attorney in the U.S.<\/p>\n \u2013 When you contact your lawyer tell him this for me;<\/p>\n 1 these test are meaningless in Guyana.<\/p>\n 2 Jim is not a party to the suit \u2013 this would admit he has received papers and is a party to the suit.<\/p>\n \u2013 Marceline asked if he thought they would re-instate the arrest orders<\/p>\n \u2013 Lionel said that was not possible, everything is stayed, there will be no move to resisitate [resuscitate] that until the decission is made.<\/p>\n \u2013 Lionel suggested that we should write Debbie Blakey and threaten her<\/p>\n \u2013 Sharon asked if he had herd that the decission would probably be favorable for P.T.<\/p>\n \u2013 He said no, he had not,<\/p>\n \u2013 But that Min. [Desmond] Hoyte said his reports about P.T. were very good, said he had travelled with him this past week, speaking on the ref., (Hoyte has been)<\/p>\n \u2013 Lionel asked if Narine [Minister of Works Steve Naraine] went up to J\/town or Dr. Reid, as many people as possible should go up.<\/p>\n \u2013 Marceline mentioned that Viola Burnham mentioned that she has not forgotten the invitation, and\u2026<\/p>\n \u2013 Lionel said that Viola Burnham would be our best ali [ally].<\/p>\n \u2013 He suggested we ma a typed copy of Mr. & Mrs Moore\u2019s statements on the tape and send to the U.S.<\/p>\n \u2013 We briefly played the tape for him of the Moores, he read the letter written by Vivian Davis, and the quotes from different people who have visited, he didn\u2019t have time to listen to the whole thing, but he did here it on the radio when it was on one of our programs.<\/p>\n \u2013 He was friendly, but rushed as always.<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-L-2A<\/p>\n Sharon Amos <\/strong>report of meeting with Lionel Luckhoo, June 28, 1978<\/strong><\/p>\n Sharon Amos<\/p>\n Lionel Luckhoo 28\/6\/78 Sharon, Marcie, Debbie<\/p>\n \u2013 Marcie talked to him about the paternity suit and Luckhoo said it might be some use in the US to us in terms of the press but that Charles Garry should request it<\/p>\n \u2013 we said that Charles had referred it to him as he was handling our case\/ he said that he can\u2019t really do it as JJ is not party to the action and therefore it would be implying JJ was party to the action if Luckhoo wrote that letter and also said it can\u2019t be used in the Guyana courts<\/p>\n \u2013 Luckhoo said he already wrote Charles Garry asking him to write Debbie Blakey saying that she should make good on the money as we might start extradition proceedings<\/p>\n \u2013 Marcie asked what would happen if there was an appeal, regarding an arrest order\/ he said that that everything is stayed now, there are no efforts to resuscitate it until a final determination is made<\/p>\n \u2013 he asked how Jonestown was doing\/ I showed him pictures of Jonestown and the letter of Vivian Davis and some quotes from visitors<\/p>\n \u2013 he said that Hoyte had traveled with him recently and said his reports about us are very good<\/p>\n \u2013 he asked if certain people had visited our project such as Hoyte and Steve Nariane [Narine]\/ I said Naraine had but Hoyte hadn\u2019t-<\/p>\n \u2013 I told him that Marcie had talked to Viola Burnham recently and she had mentioned going to the project and he said that would be very good if she did so<\/p>\n \u2013 he was very friendly<\/p>\n \u2013 I (at the end as we were standing up ready to go) told him that I was getting some inheritance and would like to give him some money he said \u201cYou can\u2019t live on bread alone.\u201d But he was warm about it (maybe I should just send it to him in a check?????)<\/p>\n \u2013 he listened to part of the Moore tape (but said he heard it on the radio) \u2013 Marcie mentioned her healing from CA<\/p>\n \u2013 she talked a little about the project, the progress etc.<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-L-2B<\/p>\n [paragraphs scribbled through; likely scratch paper]<\/p>\n It was just a small rag about the Cuban outpost thing and Idi Amin. It is obvious that someone is literally trying to destroy us. We are more patriotic to the American system than any of their bastard sources ever could be, because you learn a lot from living abroad. They tried to make the PNC look like a bunch of communists, and we have heard high level people make critical remarks of Cuba, the Soviet Union, and China.<\/p>\n One thing that we have heard from high ranking visitors is that Cuba sent its black soldiers to Africa to do their dirty work.<\/p>\n We are writing so that people won\u2019t feel that we are passing on information, that would make us look like spy\u2019s for you which would make it look bad for both of us.<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-P-14A<\/p>\n Sharon Amos meeting with attorney John Clarke, March 21, 1978<\/strong><\/p>\n Sharon Amos<\/p>\n John Clarke (old 21\/3\/78)<\/p>\n \u2013 his calling PM and Reid about meeting with JJ<\/p>\n \u2013 he said he\u2019d call the PM late tonight or tomorrow\/ he said however he doesn\u2019t want to do it right now because it is not in \u201cyour interest or mine\u201d<\/p>\n \u2013 said there is nothing to prevent JJ from coming to Georgetown<\/p>\n \u2013 he said that regarding the habeous corpus he said the order is nici, granted against JJ, summons by McDoom, solicitor asking habeous corpus proceedings be declared null and void\/ he said the judge will declare it null and void<\/p>\n \u2013 he said the order was 14\/9\/77 and yet there was no appearance on behalf of the respondent, order that a bench warrent be issued for the arrest of the infant John [Victor Stoen] and said child be made a ward of the court\/ leave was granted since 19\/9\/77 for contempt of JJ\/ in event personal service not affected, can be served by affixing 3 different copies on 3 different places on the gate of PT in the Northwest and a 4th copy served on personal secretary of JJ (someone holding himself out as a servant of JJ) \u2013 JJ has to tell the world \u201cthis is my agent and servant\u201d \u2013 but John said this order is stupid and has ben set aside<\/p>\n \u2013 Clarke got the copy from Judge [Aubrey] Bishop \/ it\u2019s been stayed officially<\/p>\n \u2013 he said the original order was made December 1977, Joyce Touchette to be brought up for contempt\/ they said she had the custody<\/p>\n \u2013 he doesn\u2019t want to trouble Dr. [Ptolemy] Reid\/ Cabinet day<\/p>\n \u2013 he said I shouldn\u2019t mention the PM\u2019s name on the phone<\/p>\n \u2013 he said he doesn\u2019t want to embarrass the PM [Prime Minister Forbes Burnham] by making an appt for him with JJ while present legal proceedings are in process\/ can\u2019t do that openly while present proceedings are in effect\/ justice must not only be done but must appear to be done<\/p>\n \u2013 John Clarke was going to have the court moved to set aside the order but the court realizes it themselves and is doing it themselves\/ make it null and void<\/p>\n \u2013 there is nothing to prevent JJ from coming in to town<\/p>\n \u2013 nobody can give you a date\/ can\u2019t force hand of judge, won\u2019t reveal the other ways you can deal with it<\/p>\n \u2013 California complaining \u201conly way JJ can win is to delay the situation\u201d, as they say JJ has the govt. in his hands \u2013 John said \u201cyou haven\u2019t got patience\u201d<\/p>\n \u2013 he said it is in your favor and in your interest to wait<\/p>\n \u2013 Judge Bishop told him it would be solved in 2-3 weeks<\/p>\n \u2013 John wants to come to Jonestown\/ he will confirm if he is coming before the day is done\/ he had some previous religious appt. will let us know<\/p>\n \u2013 PM and Dr. Reid and the govt. are on your side, he said<\/p>\n \u2013 John has close \u201cindirect\u201d connection with the judge in the background\/ can\u2019t be too direct in arranging for JJ to see the pM\/ said PM would be embarrassed if the other side heard JJ had seen the PM<\/p>\n \u2013 however he said he\u2019d hint to Dr. Reid and the PM that they could see JJ around 30\/3 or 31\/3 when JJ is in town\/ he felt he could do this without their being embarrassed<\/p>\n \u2013 he said there is a file, large one of proceedings from the US\/ govt. to govt communication from the US asking the position \u201cwhy should an American child be forced to remain in this country\u201d- said that Stoen is writing senators, to the foreign office<\/p>\n \u2013 John said he couldn\u2019t tell us the names<\/p>\n \u2013 govt. says there\u2019s nothing to worry about, chewed me out for asking him the names<\/p>\n JOHN CLARKE (dinner when he came over 3\/78)<\/p>\n \u2013 he said that he used to be an Ambassador (to some African country like Uganda???)<\/p>\n \u2013 he told us of his experiences and how he tried to be fair to the people and still be trusted by the govt.<\/p>\n \u2013 he said that the PM had to arrest certain people at one time\/ Jagans [Cheddi and Janet Jagan] were both arrested and the files of the case were in John\u2019s hands\/ he said that the Jagans actually murdered someone who disagreed with them and then denied it\/ he said Jagan was an evil woman<\/p>\n \u2013 he said he had the files still\/ they were very confidential<\/p>\n \u2013 he was very positive but did ask the question \u201cdo beatings really happen?\u201d (over)<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-P-14B<\/p>\n \u2013 we explained that of course they didn\u2019t happen, we didn\u2019t use corporal punishment at all, and told how we used positive reinforcements etc.<\/p>\n \u2013 he said that the case of John, that it made a difference that the judge now knew that JJ is the father of John\/ he said the Judge didn\u2019t know that before but now he knows it, it makes a difference\/ ordinarily one doesn\u2019t have a right to keep a woman\u2019s child\/ she is the natural custodian unless it is deemed in the interest of a child\/ if she is unfit morally, physically and financially (in this case since the father asked JJ to sire the child, and the child was voluntarily placed under J\u2019s care and protection by both parents it makes a difference)<\/p>\n \u2013 the California paper admits Tim wrote the confession\/ he can\u2019t get out of it (tho in the article he says he signed it but it was foolish), John knew JJ was the father of John but thought it was too delicate a matter to bring out<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-P-23<\/p>\n Sharon Amos Meeting with attorney John Clarke, April 10, 1978<\/strong><\/p>\n Sharon Amos<\/p>\n John Clarke 10\/4\/78 (Debbie & Sharon)<\/p>\n \u2013 re Stoen case: he said that he hadn\u2019t heard anything about the case but the judge said 3-4 weeks and now it isn\u2019t settled, he thinks the judge wants to leave it alone, let it fizzle out, said it was his feeling that it came from up high to leave it alone<\/p>\n \u2013 said regarding immigration that no-one could take the child out\/ even JJ would have to explain why he was taking John out<\/p>\n \u2013 John Clarke claimed the rule was aimed against Tim [Stoen]\/ he said that Tim would like the child to go out with JJ so he could start proceedings against JJ in the US<\/p>\n \u2013 John said that no-one can take the child out until something is settled with the case<\/p>\n \u2013 he reiterated that the govt. is on our side<\/p>\n \u2013 said regarding the arrest orders that they\u2019re in the judge\u2019s desk and can\u2019t be activated by the marshall<\/p>\n \u2013 re PM [Prime Minister Forbes Burnham] going to USSR; said that people (not John Clarke) told the PM not to go but the PM won\u2019t listen\/ nothing can stop him once he makes up his mind\/ [Ptolemy] Reid wouldn\u2019t interfere with the PM either on issues when he makes up his mind (not that Reid is against him going to USSR but just in general Reid won\u2019t interfere), Reid tries to go along with the PM\u2019s orders<\/p>\n \u2013 said USSR just will try to come over here to Guyana and communize people\/ USSR is stingy\/ won\u2019t help except to give you guns to fight\/ we in Guyana should stay with our old friends Canada, US, England<\/p>\n \u2013 US is always willing to help<\/p>\n \u2013 USSR has nothing to give, neither does GSR [likely GDR, or German Democratic Republic, or East Germany] or North Korea\/ he said the PM claimed on the radio he was going there to cement relations<\/p>\n Blackout<\/p>\n \u2013 John was very irritated about the blackout, can\u2019t work, no lights, no water<\/p>\n \u2013 John is going to a lawyer\u2019s conference in Antiqua Tues \u2013 Sun<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n D-2-Q-7A<\/p>\n Report of meeting with Lionel Luckhoo, September 4, 1978<\/strong><\/p>\n Deborah Touchette Lionel Luckhoo<\/p>\n w\/Joan P. [Pursley], Deb T.<\/p>\n \u2013 Boat situation; he said he didn\u2019t know about this, but he called his nephew in and told him to look it up for us,<\/p>\n \u2013 I offered to give him a list of questions we had on the boat and he said he would have the answers, or try to by the end of the week<\/p>\n \u2013 we have to check back fri.<\/p>\n \u2013 John Jones; he said he had herd nothing on this so far.<\/p>\n \u2013 Ref. to the IMF loan, and if it would have any effect on the external accts.<\/p>\n \u2013 he asked how much we had in the acct?<\/p>\n \u2013 I told him I didn\u2019t know for sure, but I knew it was well over one hundred thousand U.S.,<\/p>\n \u2013 he said he didn\u2019t think it would effect the account if it was in U.S.- dollars,<\/p>\n \u2013 but I explained to him that upon transferring, it was in Guyana dollors, but transferable to U,S, or any other currency we wanted.<\/p>\n \u2013 he wanted to know if we had this agreement on paper from the Govt of Guyana giving us permission to have an external acct?<\/p>\n \u2013 I told him that we did (If my memory serves me correctly, we had to write a letter, asking for an external acct. and they wrote granting the acct.) this of course after long procedures of inquiry etc., but for safty I would like to varify this with Paula A [Adams], and Carolyn L. [Layton]<\/p>\n \u2013 he said if this was the case, then it would effect us, but he couldn\u2019t say how much, he would have ot see the agreement the govt. made with the IMF. In order to know who it would effect, and how much.<\/p>\n \u2013 he said the agreement that they have so far does not effect you.<\/p>\n \u2013 I said they have made an agreement with the IMF?<\/p>\n \u2013 he nodded his head yes, but said it does not effect the general public.<\/p>\n \u2013 I would suggest you put most of your money in U.S. banks, don\u2019t put any more money in GY dollors then you absolutely have to, because it will effect you, you won\u2019t be able to buy ads many U.S. dollors.<\/p>\n \u2013 I asked if there was any wasy we could insure the accounts against that?<\/p>\n \u2013 He siad he didn\u2019t know of any way.<\/p>\n \u2013 he said he was just leaving for the airport, and would be out of town for the week (not of the country).<\/p>\n \u2013 I thanked him for seeing us, we knew he had a very busy schedule,<\/p>\n \u2013 he said that was the understatement of the year.<\/p>\n —–<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" D-2-A-1A Memo to attorney for the Temple regarding several properties, Summer\/fall 1978 MARSHALL SCHWARTZ \u2013 we talked to him (Leona [Collier], Vee [Hollins], Mac [Jim McElvane] and I) after talking to Don Freed. This was not the ideal situation, but Mac had scheduled the appointment and it was not possible to not have everyone go. 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\nOctober 8, 1978<\/p>\n
\nw\/Jim [Jones Jr.], Evette [Yvette Muldrow Jones], Deb T.<\/p>\n
\n[signed] Eugene B. Chaiken<\/p>\n
\nDeb Touchette<\/p>\n
\nSeptember 4, 1978<\/p>\n