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\nTo read the Tape Summary, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).<\/p>\n

Note: <\/strong>This tape was transcribed by Vicki Perry. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.<\/i><\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013body of God. If you\u2019re the temple of the Holy Ghost, you\u2019re the body<\/em> of God. The Holy Ghost is God\u2019s spirit<\/em>.
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\nMale:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> So I\u2019m<\/em> just manifesting what you\u2019ve been talking about. And I shall close. I don\u2019t\u2013 Last night we just healed the sick, and we healed a plenty. All up and down these aisles.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nJones:<\/strong> The blindness\u2013 And that\u2019s the most beautiful thing. There were so many blind healed in our last South meeting, it was\u2013 I\u2013 I\u2013 I\u2013 I\u2013 just\u2013 my heart thrills. Couldn\u2019t see<\/em>. Dark<\/em>. Some could only see a shade of light,<\/em> and they could define pencils and describe in detail from the back<\/em> of the auditorium. Sister in the Sacramento meeting could describe to the back<\/em> of the auditorium. She told the numbers of the fingers that I had and the sequence, and I\u2019d change them all around and she\u2019d keep right up with it. Been blind for twelve long years. I mean she couldn\u2019t see anything<\/em>.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Oh, whatsoever things I do are true, and they\u2019re beautiful and honest and lovely and of good report. And they\u2019re pure. (Claps once. Calls out) Why don\u2019t you see God? Why don\u2019t you see God?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Scattered applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Say, you\u2019re not supposed to s\u2013 speak of your own value. I\u2019m not<\/em>. I\u2019m speaking of God\u2019s<\/em> value.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> That\u2019s right!
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\nJones:<\/strong> Paul said uh, if others will boast of their apostleship though, he said, I will boast more than you all<\/em>. He said I\u2019m going to straighten out the bunch of these people that are sick and uh, ridiculously following false apostles. I\u2013 He said I am the chiefest<\/em> of apostles. Well, I\u2019m going to tell you that you\u2019ve never run into a live wire in your life like I am. Never.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Cheers and applause
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\nJones:<\/strong> And my sermonizing would\u2013 would disturb you some, because the\u2013 (Pause) the nature of my spirit is much more quiet in ordinary terms. People gather around my animal shelter and children\u2019s work, and they say, you\u2019re\u2013 you\u2019re such a quiet person. That\u2019s the office<\/em> that\u2019s speaking now. The office of authority<\/em>. One must have authority<\/em> over mortality. Or mortality will eat us up like a terrible swamp. I have to deal with it with authority. I\u2019ve got to speak and cry loud and spare not. But I\u2019m really a gentle, very meek, mild mannered person. If you follow me in my love of animals, you saw the bird that had bitten the woman and she couldn\u2019t handle it and she gave it to me last night and how it was loving at my ear and just kissing with its big beak, and it took her finger off, practically. Why<\/em> does it love? Because it knows<\/em> love. An animal knows love. I\u2019ve never been bitten in my life. I\u2019ve picked up rattlesnakes, and they\u2019ve not harmed me. I\u2019ve caused them to leave a house by just loving them. As the older people can tell you, I can pick up the flies\u2013 I don\u2019t swat them. I pick them up. The older people in my senior citizen home can raise your hand and say that, or any<\/em> of the people around my church have seen that. I picked them up, and they\u2019ll be beating up against the wall, and I put out my hand and they\u2019ll let\u2013 rest on them and take\u2013 they\u2019ll take their flight with me. And uh, you can walk and the breeze<\/em> will be coming. You know what a breeze does to a fly? They won\u2019t stay put<\/em>. But on my hand, I can take them right in the front of a fan or a breeze, and right outside they\u2019ll go.
\nSo please, don\u2019t be deterred by what you\u2019ve seen in just the sermonizing side. I am indeed<\/em> a live wire, and there\u2019re many facets to my personality. If you want a friend<\/em>, as my sister sings, I\u2019ll be a friend to the friendless. If you want a home<\/em>, you\u2019ve got a home. Anybody here that will try at all has got a home. You\u2019ve got a home always. \u2018Cause I\u2019ve [I\u2019ll] never see one of you homeless. The testimonies ought to be in the magazine, little papers like that, so they can tell you. Like the woman that was here, that was older, and her church<\/em> wouldn\u2019t even stand by her. Big church here in this Fillmore section. She got in trouble because she needed aspirin, \u2018cause her Medicare was cut back, and she was in horrible pain. We lined the store up here with people until they let her go free. They were going to put her in jail. Woman was put out in the middle of the night. She\u2019s in one of our homes now. Her preacher, when she called him, he said, trust God. That\u2019s what you ought to say when he asks for the next offering for a nice organ or a nice Cadillac or a nice Rolls Royce. You ought to say, trust God.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Cheers and applause
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\nJones:<\/strong> And I said, we\u2019ve taken in two children, not to count the older children. Brown and black, young men and women. First place they have to go, if they\u2019re homeless, is to CYA [California Youth Authority]. We\u2019re taking them in, we\u2019ve not turned away one. We took in a youngster this week. If he hadn\u2019t\u2019ve been taken in by us \u2013 he had done no (Unintelligible word), violated no law, but they said there\u2019s no other place for him to go but to prison<\/em>. In our<\/em> time. I hun\u2013 I feed the hungry. I clothe<\/em> the naked. Upstairs is a little puppy. We\u2019ve got a little cat in here that\u2019s been\u2013 a mother rejected it, because she had too many, and we\u2019re nursing it because of the spirit<\/em> that\u2019s in me. A little puppy up there. If someone wants it that can love it and nurture it. I place these animals in every meeting. I\u2019ve got nine some dogs or something like that. And thirty some cats and all kinds of roosters. Old geese, old goats, and nothing\u2019s ever been killed. In all<\/em> this holy mountain in Redwood Valley, nothing has been killed, because he said in the last days, nothing would be destroyed in all of his holy mountain. And he said to kill an ox would be like killing a man. And I believe that you\u2019ve got to create a sensitivity to life if you want the hundredfold ministry.
\nIf you say well, I\u2013 I\u2019m not going to live like that, fine. Then you live the way you please. Gorge<\/em> yourself. Say I\u2019ve gotta have meat. Keep on gorging yourself. Actually, the best way you could have long life \u2013 I\u2019ve been saying it for years \u2013 is to starve<\/em> yourself. Now the scientists came out this past week, and they confirmed another thing that I\u2019d said, that people who starve themselves would live a third life longer. They\u2019d live a third and much again as they ordinarily do if they lived on a starvation diet all their time, but you\u2019ve got to fill yourself full<\/em> till you\u2019re so fat that you\u2019re going to have strokes, occlusions. It\u2019s amazing<\/em> that I\u2019ve kept you from dying. \u2018Cause you eat like hogs.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Scattered response, then applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You eat slop<\/em>. You eat slop that a pig<\/em> would turn his nose up at. Gorge<\/em> yourself on all<\/em> these things, and I\u2019ve got diets here through my nurses, available to you, the medical people that\u2019ve worked here voluntarily. We\u2019ve offered<\/em> them to you, just as the District Attorneys who are in our church [including Tim Stoen] and work free<\/em>, give you legal services, free<\/em>.
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\nWoman:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We uh\u2013 we give\u2013 the counseling on their off time. Spend their weekends and their nights, so our nurses have a\u2013 And you keep eating like pigs. You\u2019ve got to get that weight down, because you\u2019re not just working yourself to death. You\u2019re working yourself to be like that woman, paralyzed<\/em> till she couldn\u2019t move. And if you don\u2019t keep my sayings, you can\u2019t expect me to bring you out of the mess when you won\u2019t listen to me.\u00a0 (Voice rises) I have the cares of the world on me. I once was a man in the 200\u2019s until I combusted into the Godship degree. Mother [Marceline] LeTourneau can tell you when I was over 200. Staff can tell you when I was 210, 218 pounds. But when I combusted into the Godship<\/em> degree, I had to do away<\/em> with that flesh. That\u2019s mortality\u2019s<\/em> version. I have extremiated<\/em>. After three days, you won\u2019t feel it, if you go on a fast with a multiple vitamin and flush yourself with the procedure I\u2019ve already recommended. It\u2019s on free writing for you if you\u2019ll just ask. I\u2019m here to bring you to good health<\/em>. But you cannot be to good health\u2013 Do you know the system has provided the right kind of foods to get the poor in a state of mind that they will not be able to think<\/em>? They see that you get the worst kind of foods<\/em> in these ghetto markets. They see that you get the week-old foods. They see that you get the worst kind of uh, meats with the preservatives in\u2013 in the imbalance. I know this because I\u2019ve got food store managers in my church. They tell about the stuff that\u2019s done to the poor. It would cause the hair to rise on the back of your neck.
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\nArchie Ijames:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Ministerial cadence) They want to keep you in physical lax and chemical imbalance, so you will not be able to hear the truth and come out<\/em> of your poverty and your misery and your\u2013 the terrible oppression. I<\/em> am here<\/em>, the spirit of Christ<\/em>, to set you free<\/em>, to deliver you from your captivity, to set you that are bound at freedom and at liberty.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Voice calms) You are what you eat, both mentally and spiritually. And I would that you would follow this diet and its flushings and its emetics \u2013 natural emetics \u2013 no medicines. The massages and bath, alternating temperatures, would look<\/em> enough to find the herbs. Said in the scripture, ancient scripture, the herbs of the leaves of the healing of the nation. I have found<\/em> them. I\u2019ve found<\/em> these key notes to uh, the salvation of health. The ones that have used<\/em> them, like John\u2013 James Pugh, was wasting away of cancer, who owns a rest home now, one of the church homes and is our chief<\/em> letter writer. Works all night and all day<\/em>. Two jobs. He was wasting away six, seven years ago with cancer. But I found the key<\/em>! (Claps once) He\u2019s a healthy man now, going like a man in his 20\u2019s and he\u2019s a man up towards his sixties.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Voice rises) I have found a key<\/em>. I\u2019ve found some preventatives that, if you use<\/em>, at least as our correlation, no one that has used those things have ever developed cancer<\/em>. But you are so obsessed<\/em> to fill yourself (claps lightly) with the wares of the capitalist trade to make the rich richer, and keep your belly so much out that you can\u2019t see your feet<\/em>.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> All right!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Scattered applause
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Moderates slightly) I have to raise<\/em> the dead here, so often<\/em>. One woman I raised just a few days ago, she was three hundred and fifty, if she was a pound. Nobody<\/em> but God could raise that woman up. Her wrists were so big around<\/em> that I could not use one method that I need to use with my hand. My hand could not go around her wrist<\/em>. (Pause) She was so filled with fatty tissue, you couldn\u2019t take her heartbeat with the pulse<\/em>, you had to get the stethoscope to the neck<\/em>, and then you had to press hard to even find the vein<\/em>. (Pause) She said, I thank\u2013 I know you\u2019re God\u2013 you raised me up. Said I\u2019ve had five heart attacks this week. I said, you better know I\u2019m God enough to start dieting or you\u2019re going to be dead again<\/em>.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> All right!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Cries out) He that keeps these<\/em> sayings shall not die. There\u2019s a ministry of life constituting twenty witnesses a day. Few<\/em> ever try<\/em> it. Why don\u2019t you try<\/em>? Why don\u2019t you sup<\/em> of me? Drink at my fountain. Touch<\/em> me. Keep my words and see if I won\u2019t come through with every promise that I have made unto you.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, Unintelligible words.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Voice moderates, then climbs) He can say I know you will. This minister [Harry Edwards] was a Baptist minister who had to be carried<\/em> in. Couldn\u2019t walk around, his heart had decomposed, he\u2019d had attack after attack, no longer could he work. He now works two shifts<\/em>. He can jump up and down. You saw him puttin\u2019 children up on this platform, just like they were just little bags of peanuts<\/em>. He just put them up there. Two years ago, I called him out and told him everything about his life that no man on earth could know. And I said you\u2019re healed<\/em>. And for two years, he\u2019s had no heart trouble.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> He can show you how he can run and jump now. (Pause) And who do you see me as\u2013 yeah, there he goes!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause
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\nJones:<\/strong> I mean (tape drags a couple of seconds) \u2013 when he did it before. That\u2019s something they should\u2013 They couldn\u2019t even do that. That\u2019s good enough.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> When you saw him two years ago, he just shuffled. He had to be helped<\/em>. Great<\/em> God Almighty, and who do you see that I am?
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\nVoice in crowd:<\/strong> Jesus<\/em>!
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\nJones:<\/strong> Jesus<\/em>, he said. God<\/em>.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Cries out) It was that recognition that took him out. It was that recognition that put a new heart in him. It\u2019s that recognition that makes him run like a young man. He knows God and he reproduces God.<\/p>\n

Part II:<\/strong>
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013sometime, that could thrill me over<\/em> the leverage. I\u2019ll throw you<\/em> over the leverage. Say well, I was so bored with faith. I\u2019m gonna tell you, we\u2019re on a thin edge of nothing. That\u2019s where we are in spiritual consciousness. I walk into every assembly, needing here\u2013 (tape drags) And Sadie, bless her heart. I wouldna been able to endure it, (unintelligible) Sadie having Wednesday night, I think I\u2019d have had to found myself out. I really would\u2019ve. (tape drags unintelligible) \u2013 contend with in discernment. I take the blame for it. (unintelligible)\u2013 myself nothing in the situation, my images, but I was receiving images and complexions and complex thoughts that people (unintelligible). All sorts of\u2013 of thoughts. Barbs<\/em>, even one man, throw the barb out to try to agitate something. Try to get something going. And I thought, if this isn\u2019t something. Child\u2019s play.
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\nMale:<\/strong> Yes, it is.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Where senior elders walked. That really was. As I told my wife [Marceline Jones] this morning, this has been the fountain head, it\u2019s been the closest thing I\u2019ve ever seen to what we know. We are proximity in spirit, one and the same in spirit. There\u2019s\u2013 There\u2019s a same kind of hungering and yearning for truth. A world, free from want, poverty and all of the strife. I felt the beauty of this concern, the beauty of this crusade, to see a world where there\u2019s not one hungry child.<\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> (unintelligible) That\u2019s how far off we are to where we ought to be here. (Pause) And I said, if God doesn\u2019t want a miracle \u2013 Emily [Leonard], Sadie, Esther [Mueller], Stephen [Addison] \u2013 God doesn\u2019t want a miracle. It\u2019ll take nothing but a miracle in divine proportions. That\u2019s all. And I\u2019m going to keep affirming. I\u2019m determined<\/em> that I shall not be the instrument of anything but accord and unity. Because I felt to even take issue, and then I thought no, this won\u2019t\u2013 this will only give credence to this suggestion, so I got my mind off of it. And I went on, on what I had to say, whatever value it was. I don\u2019t find words too forthcoming there. Because naturally, God brings out of you<\/em> where there is more expectation. If it\u2019s expectation for what you\u2019ve got to say, that\u2019s where God\u2019s gonna use you. And in that group \u2013 there\u2019s what of you, five of you, Clara [Phillips], you \u2013 four or five of you? There\u2019s not a great deal of expectation there for anything<\/em> I have to say. And some people have a very clouded image of me, and so it doesn\u2019t encourage<\/em> bringing forth the creative thought. It\u2013 It\u2019s really walls<\/em>, impenetrable<\/em> walls I face when it comes to giving of what I have in the spiritual<\/em> man in that assembly.
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\nMale:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> That\u2019s kind of you. I don\u2019t even recall what I said, but\u2013 but anyway, I know it was very difficult. But I thought Sadie<\/em> has appealed<\/em> to the Christ, and the Christ I\u2019m going to give her, not confusion. She didn\u2019t recognize mortal<\/em> mind. She was deferring to me and had the faith that I\u2019d give something meaningful and not disharmonious. So I said I cannot disappoint<\/em> that so that\u2019s why I got off the Republican which unsettled me terribly., that a man could be so blind as that. And I told him, I told him when I went with him, I said I don\u2019t know what you meant by this Republican business. I can\u2019t understand how any spiritual man take much credence<\/em>\u2013 must satisfaction out of a sweep of Republican victory that\u2019s come across this co\u2013 this state.
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\nMale:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Now, if we close our minds out\u2013 And of course, that may be uh\u2013 that may be uh\u2013 touching on tender toes. (Pause) But let\u2019s face it, it was the Republican<\/em>, Mr. [Ronald] Reagan, that said he was going to make Vietnam into a parking<\/em> lot. That\u2019s what he\u2019d like to see made of Vietnam. A parking<\/em> lot. Said we\u2019d run a strip<\/em> right down through Vietnam. That\u2019s what we\u2019d do. Said that\u2019s what I\u2019d<\/em> do. That\u2019s what we ought to do is bomb China. That\u2019s the kind of statements that\u2019s been made by this\u2013 this great uh, tidal wave of victory that\u2019s surrounding Reagan. This is the kind of sympathies that go out to this man. Men like Eric Sevareid says that there\u2019s not been uh, a sane<\/em> thought given to peace<\/em> in this whole campaign. It\u2019s a reaction, a fear<\/em>. A reaction to frustration. A reaction that actually wants to get the job done. Get over there and whip them a little harder. Hit \u2018em a little harder, until you get the job done. It\u2019s not been a reaction of peace sentiment. Not consistent with the teachings of Christ, or the gentle one. But we can do it. We can turn the tide if we\u2019re dedicated enough. It only takes two (unintelligible word) if we gather together in the fundamental, to move against all these onslaughts. But the fact is we\u2019re not<\/em> united. Here are two of the most idealistic groups that are not<\/em> united. There\u2019s no need to kid<\/em> ourselves. We cannot change things by false illusion<\/em>. We\u2019ll have to recognize<\/em> it. We\u2019re not united. We need board meetings after board meeting to get this thing rolling. We need to talk Sunday after Sunday after Sunday till we plowed through all<\/em> the uh\u2013 (unintelligible word)\u2013<\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013languishing and procrastination, hoping that somehow we\u2019ll stay out of trouble, that we\u2019ll avoid some sort of recognition or that we won\u2019t have any more trials. What kind of people are we that don\u2019t want trials? I understand the fear that the Church of the Golden Rule\u2019s had, they\u2019ve had a lot of it, but I still<\/em> say, once you become afraid of persecutions, you\u2019re no long\u2013 longer worthy to carry the banner of Christ.
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\nMale:<\/strong> That\u2019s all right. (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Oh, it\u2019s said that anyone that would follow after him would suffer persecutions, prosecutions<\/em> and all sorts of the oppositions of mortal mind. (Pause) Well, Father, we\u2019ve spoken enough. Will you keep us, as we leave here today, (Pause) check me from coming here tonight. I suppose it was for temporary purpose I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m not aware. (Pause) I don\u2019t even know what<\/em> is happening. But I hope I\u2019m amenable to it. (Pause) And I hope these people<\/em> are amenable to it. God help us to be more courageous. Let\u2019s take advantage of this marvelous opportunity. (begins to sing) Oh, can I go,\/ Oh, can I go.<\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> Keep your hands clasped, if you will. (Pause) As I was bent over, Chuck [Beikman] saying something to him, privately and determined, I was just overwhelmed with the number of problems in his nature, and throughout this whole world. So please, will you come up with him for a moment and see yourself? I can\u2019t do that for you and no one else can. I got the strong sensation of the spirit and we\u2013 the last enemy hovers closely. The only opposition to it. Your light is filled with love and service and devotion. I\u2019m sure on that fateful Monday of last week, if I hadn\u2019t been able to say what I said\u2013 I mean your little God, I\u2019ve not hidden anything from you. I\u2019m ready to do your bidding. I\u2019m sure that you would be now<\/em> probably in the anxieties of looking at the broken body or just putting a broken body someplace. There\u2019s such a thin line between spiritual well being\u2013<\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> If you uh, have someone that would be unknown to me or anyone in this church that died recently by the name of Christine. (Pause) Is there? I sense the spirit of death strongly around that name. If there\u2019s someone you know by the name of Christine, and there is someone by the name of Ida or Aunt Ida. (Pause) Ida it seems to me.
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\nEva Pugh:<\/strong> I know an Ida.
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\nJones:<\/strong> She live on a street uh, called Broadway?
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>(unintelligible) in Kentucky\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> (unintelligible) Hmm. She lives in Kentucky.
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>(unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Now this isn\u2019t anything pertinent to you, only just to confer. Now she\u2019s had someone\u2013
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>I called her\u2013 I called her aunt, but she\u2019s not\u2013 She isn\u2019t my aunt, she\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> Well, have you ever told anybody in this room you call her a aunt?
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>No, no.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (unintelligible about Ida)
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Have you ever told anyone in this room this?
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>No.
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\nJones:<\/strong> There\u2019s terrible unbelief here.
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>Nobody ever knows\u2013 nobody would know<\/em> it because\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> Would you even be aware (unintelligible) Christine?
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\nMale:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>Christine is just my (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Have you ever spoken to anyone?
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>No.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Anyone. I\u2019m talking about\u2013 There\u2019s unbelief in this room.
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>No. Nobody knows who\u2013 (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Will you stand up and look around, so people can look at you?
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\nEva Pugh: <\/strong>No, nobody would know me. (unintelligible) Maybe because she (unintelligible) 80, and she came to live with my husband that died\u2019s aunt, and I had no obli\u2013 I had no reason but she was such a sweet old lady my\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> May I stop you here, for the sake of the people who (unintelligible word) their thoughts? (Pause) The husband she speaks of was in his forties, and he was prophesied<\/em> by myself that he would pass with the blooming of the flower because of race hatred. (unintelligible). Is that not correct?
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\nMale:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And he passed<\/em> with the blooming of that flower. You say, well why did it (unintelligible word), he could have had life, if he had chosen it. Where some in this room have chosen life, as their\u2013 (unintelligible). Just stand? This\u2013 bro\u2013 Brother [Joe] Phillips who owns Fireside Rest Home here in the city, his wife [Clara Phillips] was promised life on the 25th of just a month passed.
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\nMale:<\/strong> (unintelligible).
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\nJones: <\/strong>That on the 25th of the month, healing would come, if he did not withdraw, even as a (unintelligible) of how much money (unintelligible) his money would be in the bank. And on that day, she was healed of a very difficult female problem.
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\nMale:<\/strong> That\u2019s true.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Who works for life before death? You are the chooser.\u00a0 (Pause) (speaks in low voice away from mike) Now put your hand\u2013<\/p>\n

(coughing in background)<\/p>\n

(organ playing)
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\nJones:<\/strong> (low voice in background too soft) These are the private matters of (unintelligible). Project your thoughts. Project your thoughts. Infinite God, take care of these matters, Make us obedient to your own, that we can drive away all of these dispelling adversaries.<\/p>\n

(Jones and audience sing hymn, \u201cWhere can I go?\u201d)
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\nJones:<\/strong> (unintelligible) Praise God. (claps) Praise God. (claps) Just that simple. She relates. That\u2019s the key. Relating. (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

(organ music playing in background for few minutes)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Close your eyes and I have a meeting (unintelligible) direction.<\/p>\n

(organ plays louder, singing by small group)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I must say\u2013 this is going to be serious time today, this afternoon and tonight, and should be involved in the discussion (unintelligible). No more vying for my attention. No more effort to be made to look good in my eyes or in the eyes of others and having my favorite. (unintelligible) with me or make decisions informed about principle. I want no questions about this from anyone. I\u2019m giving this a (unintelligible), that everyone in this room here now (unintelligible). Everyone in this room here, (unintelligible).
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\nJones:<\/strong> (unintelligible) have to want to stay like this. (unintelligible) think that somebody can count on us (unintelligible). Now put your hand out. (unintelligible sentences) with the thoughts of love and all the beauty that we see in her at this very moment. She\u2019s beautiful and holy. In the name of truth, we bless her with the love, the power of burning love. (Glossolalia). (unintelligible) of her mind, she will know who she is, how important God (unintelligible word). And the people said \u201cso be it\u201d.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> So be it.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (unintelligible). Stand with me.<\/p>\n

(organ playing louder)<\/p>\n

(Jones and group sing new hymn)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Oh, God. Can you extend your wings of divine protection for us, just a little while? I now beseech thee that your mercy\u2019s divine messengers will stand for the sake of those who have tried with all their capacity. (Pause) Give us opportunity today to create a Christ full expression that we\u2019ll be able to do the things that we know to do. It will be the epitomization of tenderness and gentleness and kindness to all of the people that we have contact with. That we\u2019ll illumine the job and the places of the markets that we go to frequently throughout this week with the love of God able to see that certainly something has touched our\u2013 our temperament. I pray thee, God, for this Christ Church of the Golden Rule. Such a great revelation. My heart aches for some of the things I behold, and I am pained within because of the divisive influences that are so evident. And I have\u2013 There\u2019s nothing more that I can do except that thou wouldst open up some of those rigid places, hearts that are set against it. (sigh) Oh, God, extend your mercy to Christ Church of the Golden Rule and the people\u2019s church that we might fulfill our destiny. (Pause) Help us to see ourselves as only divine mind can enable us to do. (Pause) My God, my God. I hear the cry again. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, how oft I would have gathered you under my wings as a hen doth gather her brood and you would not. We must turn that \u201cwould\u201d into a \u201cshall.\u201d We must discern all of this marvelous benefit and use it well and reproduce its goodness graciously. God forgive us, though I am having to pray for some, when they should be crying for themselves. Forgive us for all the \u201ccant\u2019s\u201d and the complaints and the dual minds that have been aft\u2013 evident in expression this week, states of thought that should be corrected here and groanings<\/em> that cannot even be uttered with human tongue. Oh, God, why aren\u2019t we more in conviction with what we\u2019ve beheld and the place we\u2019ve been called to? Or, as the old proverb goes that we can lead people to water, but we cannot make them drink. It\u2019s up to you, divine messenger of the truth. Father, Mother, God, we convey our faith and our love and devotion to you, and ask your protective hand to be upon us. In the Christ truth we pray, amen.
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\nWoman:<\/strong> Can I say something?
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\nJones:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nWoman:<\/strong> I want (unintelligible sentences).
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\nJones:<\/strong> Uh-hmm. I know.
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\nWoman:<\/strong> And I felt all through the meeting I wanted to say\u2013 say that I\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> That\u2019s why I looked<\/em> at you when I said it, \u2018cause it\u2019d be easier for me to say it to you. Someone else\u2013
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\nWoman:<\/strong> I\u2013 I never\u2013 I\u2013 I never thought of the (unintelligible) I just knowing (unintelligible) all things I\u2013 I thought but, you know, I\u2019m guilty (unintelligible) \u2018cause I don\u2019t want nothing (unintelligible).
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\nJones:<\/strong> Well, who else will\u2013 (Pause) Thank you.
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\nMale:<\/strong> I would have taken nothing (unintelligible word) your sermon today. Your sermon (unintelligible).
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\nJones:<\/strong> Thank you. Thank you for the two confessions from the people I was talking about last night. Bless you. You may go.
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\nWoman:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013the sanctity of soul. Place of quiet confidence, where they needed a rest, provided from the foundation of the world, for those that prefer to enter into it. Infinite mind, hallow this atmosphere, and this can be done only through our obedience to the perfect mind of love. As we relax our own conscious mentalities for a moment, we pray that it will no longer be the eye of mortal thought that stands in cognizance here, but it will be the \u201cI am\u201d of all ages, the wellspring of eternality, the Christ thought that flows deep within. Infinite mind, have thy way. Harness all of these thoughts, the cross section and multitudeness thought of mortal man that has endlessly diverted us from the course of perfection. They strain all these suggestions and bring us into the optimum, our faith. The personality or the mask, person of the mask is lost, the identity of man is lost<\/em> in the fullness and consciousness of all sufficiency which is God, our love. May health flow from heart to heart as we gently touch each neighbor\u2019s hand. May the warmth of our concern be felt intensely. May every frustrated thought be subdued into the allness of thy presence, for there is no reality outside of love. There\u2019s no reality outside of goodwill and all the good things that cometh down from above, and so we relax in our thought to this divine river, for there is a river. There the streams thereof are the ways of peace and the ways of life. May that eternal consciousness be recognized here this morning.<\/p>\n

(organ plays)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Take three deep breaths of this divine life that is all about us, as far as you can extend those lungs, extend them into the universality of God\u2019s love. (breathes deeply) Just be sort of limp in your seat for a moment and allow the relaxation of God\u2019s spirit to take dominion. There\u2019s no longer \u201cI\u201d but the Christ that liveth in you. Just relax, even your hand, let them fall limply to your side. The feet, your leg muscles. Just relax them. What is the visible conscious presence of God that is the source of your<\/em> supply, and only man\u2019s thoughts will hinder? Nothing God does but that which is loving, and that which is helpful and uplifting. And love surround us, and love unfold the mighty strength within us as we buoy above our mortal bout to the conditioning of the (unintelligible) thought that has prevailed, lo these eons of time<\/em>. We just (unintelligible) and say get thee behind me, false suggester, Satan, Lucifer, or whatever name we should give it. And we do not listen to mortal thought and we listen only to the \u201cI am\u201d that says I am able, I am prosperous, I am well, I am blessed, I am loved, and I can do all<\/em> things. I can do all things. I can do all things.<\/p>\n

(organ music for several moments, intermittent child fussing)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I one time heard a song. There is a river, a river of no return. And oh, how much I desire within the true<\/em> self in the inner being, the only real man, how much I desire to take that river to the point of no return to mortal suggestion and the fears and dualities, the false appearances that I\u2019ve lived in. You know the melody of that song? There is a river?<\/p>\n

(woman begins singing in background)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s a good one to learn. (Sings) There is a river called the river of no return. (speaks) That\u2019s all I know of it. (hums)<\/p>\n

(organ playing song)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I have long wondered why I am here. Why I\u2019ve been sent to such a plane as this. And why (unintelligible word) I\u2019ve had to endure. Not that I\u2019m any better than anyone else, but why I\u2019ve had to endure doubts, fears, incongruities of man. And now I can well understand why. For it is this<\/em> that births the true soul, the true spirit of man. We have<\/em> to have the perfecting influences of doubts and all<\/em> these oppositions, so-called, to manifest our true identity. And so I\u2013 I\u2019m grateful for God\u2019s challenge in this. I only pray and affirm that I shall be able to mature<\/em> in this place that he has called me so that I can be able to reach<\/em> out to mankind and extend this hope that has been afforded by divine revelation. For indeed, we are blessed, when you stop to consider the principle of which has been manifested in our midst. We are a blessed and fortunate people, for we no longer have to speculate or presume about Almighty God, but we have seen the finger of God move with mighty power and aura in our midst.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We do not have to speculate or theorize<\/em> about the axioms of man\u2019s uh, postulation as to whether God exists or doesn\u2019t<\/em> exist. We know with infinite infallible<\/em> belief that God does exist.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Amen.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And truly, no man could ever behold the glory of God until someone<\/em>, at some<\/em> place, at some<\/em> time or juncture of revelation makes God incarnate and dwelling in the minds of flesh reality.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Amen.
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\nJones:<\/strong> It is written in the old John epistle that the Word was with<\/em> God and was<\/em> God, but it had no<\/em> significance to you absolutely until someone<\/em> made the word flesh and it was then<\/em>, said the scriptorium, that you behold the glory of God. When the word was made flesh. I have come<\/em> with all the inclement conditions of faith, to make that reality a fact<\/em>, not only for a handful of wondering<\/em> minds here, whose minds\u2019 imitations and love and devotion are spread in a sundry<\/em> sorts of way. But I have come with a hope and aspiration that a dispensation shall be uttered to him where all<\/em> men shall know God, from the least<\/em> to the greatest, and the knowledge of this revelation shall cover the earth as the water cover this sea. Now it is with trepidation that man faces unbelief. And I sometimes wonder what more can we see to know the infallible workings of God? What more does this people need to get their minds attending on the things that are happening inside of this quarter for the few minutes that we come, rather than the things of mortality outside. Even some of you do me the uh, embarrassing ridicule of looking<\/em> out the window when I am attempting to manifest Christ thought. (Pause) It\u2019s not just another people. You are a chosen people, called from thousands of miles in different places and directions to come to one<\/em> place for perfectibility, that you might put on the Christ mind, that mortality might be swallowed up by immortality, that the corruptible might put on the incorruptible. You have come<\/em> to such a place as this, and some of you do not even know where you are or what you are doing, and certainly<\/em> you will be always<\/em> what you think. For as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he. If you are sitting in this room and do not know why<\/em> you\u2019re sitting in this room, you shall ever wander in the shades of unbelief, doubt, and false opinion. For you can never find reality and first\u2013 until first you come as the solid Gibraltar of faith, not wavering, as James said, for he that wavers is like the sea, it\u2019s never tossed to and fro with the wind. For if you are to receive anything<\/em> of God good or a law<\/em> of compensation, you must come without wavering or halting in your opinion to receive the benefits of the over soul. (Pause)<\/p>\n

I think of just a few weeks ago, how blessed we are that a mother can here and stand up and tell us as Opal [Freestone] did today, she thanked God for our love, because a divine revelation came about her child and spoke that her child was called to a purpose beyond. And she found identification in this. But yet on the contrary part, her\u2013 her helpmate [Marion \u201cWhitey\u201d Freestone], who is really no spiritual helpmate at all, at this stage of his unfoldment, can a (Unintelligible word) in this assembly room, but barely a few weeks ago, and heard the prophecy of God speak with infallible<\/em> certainty that the next time we are endangered by vehicles, or the next time we have a car<\/em> accident, period<\/em> \u2013 I think was the absolute of it \u2013 the next<\/em> time we have a car accident, it will be fatal, and that no ambulance will be needed for the people that are involved in the fatality of it or for the person involved in the fatality of it. And I think with a certainty of which divine mind moves<\/em> our own situation and knew that that was the necessity of being the vehicle to take a precious angel of mercy unto her realm and out of this uncertain plane, but with absolute<\/em> certainty, it said, there would be no ambulance needed, and the little one was taken twice between here and Ukiah in a car and from Ukiah to Santa Rosa for her last hours in a car and no ambulance was needed. You have sat in (Unintelligible word) (voice rises) where the voice of the lawless husband made threats and have (unintelligible word) amongst you and you have beheld the word of God which is sharper than any two-edged sword to the dividing asunder of soul<\/em> and spirit, to the joint and the marrow that is the discerner of your thoughts (voice drops, then climbs again) and the intents of your heart. Bibles<\/em> do not discern your thoughts, nor the intents of your heart. And truly it was written by the uh, apostles of old, the letter or the Bible kills, but the spirit<\/em> or the love of God maketh alive. Faced as we are, when we have guests here of kindly spirit, and it\u2019s very difficult to move into a\u2013 a realm that is a bit different and I appreciate the (unintelligible word) and submission of some people who come in for their first time, there is more honesty of inquiring than there are by some of you who I\u2019ve seen cancers spit up out of the mouths and the crutches dropped, there is at least more of a willingness to listen<\/em>, than there is on the part of you who have beheld<\/em> the fullness\u2013
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\nMale:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013 the brightness and the efficacy of his presence. (Pause) Truly it is now the Roman Catholic church and the Protestant churches are trying to get together in their councils to get a one unified word of God<\/em> because they know they\u2019re in trouble<\/em>. The voice of the Logos is not in their midst, the prophet\u2019s hands have been tied<\/em>, the so-called prophets lie,<\/em> and the people would have it so, from institutional Rome throughout institutional Protestantism and all the realms of Judaism. And the voice of the prophet is gone<\/em>. The voice of the Logos is silent<\/em> in the land, and so the councils of bishops of both churches and all movements uh, and sects<\/em> of the world are attempting<\/em> to get together to (unintelligible word) a unified word of God because now the two Bibles do not agree. The Catholic Bible has twelve some books in addition<\/em> to the Protestant Bible, which certain ungodly influences cut<\/em> out of the Protestant Bible. You say ungodly influences, yes, because the Catholic Church, we will have to concede, was the original church. It was the first possessor of the Bible, the Latin Vulgate edition 404 years after Jesus\u2019 death.
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Jones:<\/strong> I\u2019m not interested in any conversation at this juncture, because I\u2019m endeavoring with all my mind to represent a fundamental.
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> And uh, it is into that position I uh, have no feeling of animosity, but I do not want to get our minds divided, because I\u2019m attempting to perfect the Christ within me<\/em>. And if I allow any<\/em> kind of suggestion outside of perfect faith to take place, then I will weaken<\/em> the fulfillment of that which I\u2019m trying to bring forth.
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\nMale:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> You see, I don\u2019t understand what you\u2019re talking about. To him that hath<\/em> an ear to hear, he<\/em> will understand.
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\nMale:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> For him that doth not have the ear or the quickening in his understanding to behold that which is happening, will not be able to grasp it, and will be left somewhat (unintelligible word) in the dark. And I have to start where I am, and wrestle with all the thoughts and suggestions and ego-fulfilling pressures that are in this room. And there are many and asunder. And yet, as I started to say about one of our members, he stands out this morning with some consternation and feels a bit uh, sorry for himself and a bit saddened, because he doesn\u2019t understand the full weight and impact of this revelation or his revelator. A few days ago, Mr. Freestone, Whitey Freestone said to me, I am\u2013 he\u2019d been given some statement that he was to perhaps receive a hundred thousand dollars from this accident. And he said I will uh, give all<\/em> of it to you<\/em>, after I have expended my few bills and cleared the uh\u2013 the slate, I will give it all<\/em> to you. Of course, you can imagine I didn\u2019t accept<\/em> it. I don\u2019t accept any kind of promises like that. I told him to get those\u2013 his mind off of that, and to maintain his thought about getting well and returning to a place of harmonization. But this is the privilege you have, in your midst, that most men, when they\u2019re offered a hundred thousand dollars, would do anything in the world to placate the representative of that offer and to deal with them softly. But last Sunday, I rebuked<\/em> him because he needed<\/em> a rebuke<\/em>. And it went straight to his heart. Did it not, Opal [Freestone]? It went straight to his heart, and it shall ever stay<\/em> in his heart, because I will do nothing to apologize or to compromise the word of truth<\/em>.\u00a0 You do not realize what you are dealing with. You are dealing with the infinite mind<\/em> of God who has come in a character representation that has struck with virginity. (Voice drops) That\u2019s exactly what I\u2019m talking about. Not the kind of virginity that comes when mommy brings you into this world, but I\u2019m talking about a virginity<\/em> of spirit. (Voice climbs) I cannot be contaminated<\/em> by your offers or your kind of compromised suggestions, or your intimidations or your bribes<\/em>. I am not available<\/em> to the intimidating influences of mortal mind<\/em>. I am here<\/em> to make God visible<\/em> and I shall\u2013 (voice drops) and I shall not be deterred in that.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Amen.
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\nJones:<\/strong> For he shall come forth with mighty power to deliver. And if you shall enter into this marvelous revelation, we shall go forth and do exploit for the Almighty. If you do not<\/em>, and continue to take it for granted and have dual mind, for a double-minded man is unstable in all of his ways, then this covenant shall be removed<\/em> from your midst and shall go forth to a people who have not heard<\/em>. And they shall hear<\/em>. For some<\/em> shall come forth in this day and this dispensation, for God<\/em> shall have his people. For this covenant hath worked too many centuries past<\/em> even, in minor<\/em> degree, for it to be stopped here, at the end, the consummation of the age. (Pause) Look back for a moment in retrospect and see from whence God hath brought it. Consider<\/em>, if you will, for just a moment what he has done for us, when we have affirmed this conscious recognition of God\u2019s presence. This is all we\u2019re here to do, this is all we\u2019re here to declare. The actuality of God\u2019s personal presence which is in our midst mighty to deliver to the uttermost. The whole of our revelation could be summed in those few words, that we are here to make manifest a spirit of the conscious presence of God, which is the source of all<\/em> supply and the satisfactor\u2013 satisfier of every good desire.<\/p>\n

(Voice drops) That\u2019s all of it in a nutshell. And that\u2019s what I\u2019m here to do. To cause mortal man to die and the Christ to live. First he\u2019s got to die in me, before he can ever live in you. So I can never reproduce anything in you that\u2019s not in myself. And certainly we wonder why we are here, we\u2019re not taking the world<\/em>. It\u2019s because we haven\u2019t even begun to do the slightest bit of building our feelings, and Mr. Freestone\u2019s just one of the few misters and missuses in this room that has feelings on their shoulder. We\u2019re living<\/em> in a low realm of spiritual unfoldment. We<\/em> know it. We\u2019re not kidding anyone. We know the reservations that take place. Last night in our party, we have a\u2013 a\u2013 a little game which is an innocuous game, a game of some sort of black magic, and I sit there uh, trying to in\u2013 unfold in the spirit of\u2013 of merriment and pleasure, al\u2013 although in these times of cataclysmic forces that\u2019re all around us, I find it a bit difficult to find any kind of recreational expression. But I was endeavoring to be a part and party to what was going on, and uh, someone was trying to learn some signal or key code or something about color that represented, I guess what uh, whatever this situation was. I wasn\u2019t even following it in my mind. My mind was soon taken away from it, because a couple of people was beginning to say in their thoughts, well, he hasn\u2019t got it yet, or something to that effect. Why doesn\u2019t he<\/em> know what the key is? And I thought, of all the places to test divine mind in a simple game. I have no time<\/em> for child\u2019s play. Nor do the messengers of truth<\/em> have any time for child\u2019s play. So I removed<\/em> myself from the setting, because God<\/em> did not give<\/em> this gift to be toyed<\/em> with. I rebuked<\/em> you on one time for a fortune-telling game, which all of you seemed to enjoy with great uh\u2013 uh, (unintelligible). And I rebuked you again<\/em> when we play in this kind of a game, for this kind of a truth<\/em> is not to be played<\/em> with or to be toyed<\/em> with. For it is the voice of God<\/em>, and the voice of God that has healed<\/em> you from your wants and your lacks and your limitations. It\u2019s the voice of God that has caused Dorothy [Worley] to stand before you this morning, when just a few weeks ago, the voice of this discernment called her out which was sharper than any<\/em> two-edged sword and told her that she had a particular problem right then in her throat so she couldn\u2019t swallow, and a heart attack was avoided in a moment of a twinkling of an eye.
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\nMale:<\/strong> Amen.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Isn\u2019t that divine revelation, as the woman spoke of this morning that removed a man\u2019s blinded eye and caused him to see. And a woman that God<\/em> has seen in mortal minds, long before we ever arrived at the time, that she was healed of a growth (unintelligible) to Mrs. [Eva] Pugh, our treasurer, testifying to the deliverance that had been with her for four long years. And you sit here in play and in play. (Voice climbs) And sometimes your singing<\/em> is only a means of passing the time away because you<\/em> are afraid<\/em> to testify to the fundamental which you know and have (unintelligible word). (Pause) (Voice drops) (unintelligible) quietly. (unintelligible). Singing is wonderful<\/em> if it\u2019s inspirational. If it comes from the depths of a soul that\u2019s spontaneously made glad, it is beautiful indeed. But if it is an excuse for worship<\/em> or for creative<\/em> thinking, then it is certainly on a low realm vibration. You say, what are you (unintelligible word) talk about? Surely, you should know what to talk about. Mrs. uh, [Rosie] Ijames did a beautiful job of talking. She didn\u2019t say anything about personality. She talked about spiritual things of quality and of depth. We\u2019re not talking about personality praise or to re\u2013 review all of the healings that we\u2019ve had which would take ten thousand years to review them if we took time, painstakingly, for each one. But certainly an attitude of spiritual unfoldment could be with us, but we come in here like we\u2019re\u2013 we\u2019re just uh, coming out of obligation. (Voice climbs) I\u2019m here to tell you that tonight you will not be<\/em> in this assembly, for there will be no assembly meeting here tonight. You will find<\/em> your place of spiritual unfoldment at home, and you will stay at home until you learn<\/em> to find the creative Christ. (Pause) (Voice drops) For we are not playing. I have been sent from a world that you know not of, evidently, in some\u2013 some e\u2013 in some instances. (Pause)<\/p>\n

We can\u2019t live from week to week in the (unintelligible) breaking relationship and hope to continue to file our spiritual life, because to whom much is given, much is required. Last week it was affirmed<\/em> here that there would be no more talking of sickness and tiredness and disappointment and grief, and yet, last evening every time I\u2019d ask somebody how they were, it was well\u2013 well\u2013 (short laugh) all right. Or uh, you know what I\u2019m talking about. (Pause) Or do you? (Pause) People, I hear you talking. I heard some conversation about uh, how hard times you\u2019ve had since you\u2019ve been here, the month you\u2019ve been here. And we\u2019ve got newcomers coming. You oughtn\u2019t be talking like that, and then the newcomer himself, he doesn\u2019t know what he\u2013 uh, should be here or shouldn\u2019t be here. And I\u2013 I should tell you, if you don\u2019t know, you\u2019ll never really find out, \u2018cause it in\u2013 infinitely requires faith, but it\u2019s bad for those who do<\/em> come, and they\u2019ve only been here for a few days, for somebody else standing off bemoaning all the trials they\u2019ve had since they\u2019ve been here. You have been blessed by the word of God.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Voice rises) You were called<\/em> from nothing<\/em> to something. You were called<\/em> from obscurity to the day breaking of spiritual life. You were called<\/em> from self-centered\u2013 all (unintelligible) of self desire rampant around you. You lived in a smug little world where you couldn\u2019t move without everything being fixed<\/em> in (unintelligible word) relationship and God poured out all your (unintelligible word) from you, and sent you 2,500 miles to find your true karmic man. (Voice drops) That\u2019s what he did. Took your jobs, but he was good to you. Whereas I promised<\/em> you, as being his voice, I said none of you would be in want. And you all found jobs, homes and an abundance of every good desire with now over 25,000 dollars in the bank to do something for our cooperative. But<\/em> you do not understand what\u2019s in your midst. For you come with no\u2013 no real enthusiasm, and let us say loud \u201cAmens\u201d for this.
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\nMurmured voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Amen.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Let us be truthful<\/em>, when we\u2019re in the presence of God. Instead of appreciating a man who couldn\u2019t be imbibed or intimidated by a hundred thousand dollars and still go on\u2013 goes on telling you as the tender shepherd where you need to improve, a man gets hurt. Hmm?
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\nScattered voice in Congregation:<\/strong> (murmurs)
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\nJones:<\/strong> And I would say, and I go on record, the only portion of the money I could ever take is\u2013 and the church, which I don\u2019t handle any money, and no one could ever give me money personally, surely<\/em> we know that by now.
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\nMale:<\/strong> Right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> That the only part of the money I\u2019d ever accept<\/em> would be your half, because I wouldn\u2019t take a dime<\/em> of Whitey Freestone\u2019s money even in the church. Do you understand what I\u2019m talking about?
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You understand what I\u2019m talking about, Opal? You sure bear witness for what goes on in the home, the confusion, the ranting, the divisibility. You understand what I\u2019m talking about. We want no dirty money in this cause.
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\nMale:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> But uh, what usually comes out of these kind of talks is disgust with my hard saying. He\u2019s so hard. Well, I tell you, when the elements are on fire, and the systems of men are falling like the Tower of Babel, you\u2019re going to be grateful for some hard sayings that made you prepared for the advent of a new age. (Calls out) Don\u2019t think we\u2019re going to sit there and\u2013 like some earthworm into this new age without real transformation. We\u2019re going to have to repent of the other world. You\u2019re going to have to lay it aside. You\u2019re going to have to be renewed and transformed by the renewing of your mind. Not<\/em> conformed to the image of m\u2013 of the world thought or the mortal thought, but completely transformed. In this assembly, there\u2019s so little of it. (unintelligible word) this week \u2013 and it was not brought to my attention \u2013 this week, as in I\u2019m going to get down home so you need to get your ear, listening. This week when one of our young women who\u2019s having a real conflict within and a conflict without and fighting for her life and she made some little suggestion that uh, uh, that seems uh, threatening to our old status image of what we considered the man-and-wife relationship and the boyfriend and the girlfriend relationship. She make something like this and the whole church is evidently thrown into some consternation. Now those that are (unintelligible), though no one brought it to my<\/em> ear. You\u2019re thrown into consternation because someone suggests that we uh\u2013 we need to share. I won\u2019t go into it, because I have enemies afoot. I think you\u2019ll\u2013 those of you that know what I\u2019m talking about by now. You do know what I\u2019m talking about. (Pause) It evolves around uh, uh\u2013 Judy [Merriam or Meade]\u2013 where are you?
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\nJudy:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Not anything you bore witness to me, but something I told you<\/em> about. Is that not correct?
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\nJudy:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> All right. But uh, we don\u2019t\u2013 we don\u2019t seem to understand<\/em> that if we were where we ought<\/em> to, we\u2019d share everything we had. Oh, you say, my God. (unintelligible) where I stand now. For we cannot share in sex and we cannot uh, uh, emasculate uh, ourselves to the contempt<\/em> of man, but if we were where we ought<\/em> to be, the love<\/em> of God would be free<\/em> of distain to all and to every w\u2013 person in here. There would be tender<\/em> care, love<\/em> and devotion for every individual here.
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\nWoman:<\/strong> Right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Calls out, pounds podium) When one was not sharing, we would be touched with a fuse of their infirmities and would bear it and would be happy to share whatever<\/em> we had and possessed (calms) to the good and the welfare of every other person. I\u2019m saying a hard saying that\u2019ll cause many of you to wonder whether you\u2019ve come the right way, but now is the time to wonder. At least you\u2019ll never say in Jim Jones and uh, what\u2019s he was saying and fundamental thought was.<\/p>\n

It would be nice if some of the husbands, when a young woman who was once uh\u2013 been married and uh, has had to give up marriage and has had to give up to some degree uh, the comforts and security of\u2013 of close proximity, even though it\u2019s a delusive dream, that it\u2019d be nice if some man in the church occasionally might escort her \u2013 at least<\/em> a man and woman \u2013 escort her out uh, to a uh, uh, some sort of uh, recreation or food or to a show, etcetera. It\u2019s a very good thing to do. Too bad that she<\/em> has to think of it, and we don\u2019t think of it, because we should be touched by this. You\u2019ll never know the nightmare and the anxiety that people like she goes through. And some of you need to have a great deal of tenderness and compassion, (voice builds) because there\u2019s a feeling<\/em> of rejection<\/em> that comes upon us when we lose a home, and we\u2019ve lost<\/em> our wife or we\u2019ve lost<\/em> our husband. Uh\u2013 In spite of the lie, (stumbles over words) the elusive dream, it\u2019s still that suggestion that comes. (Calms) We\u2019re a misfit, we\u2019re misplaced, or we\u2019re displaced. (Pause) (Voice rises) There used to be far more empathy in this room than there is. There\u2019s too much off-handed uh, joking about the fundamental. There\u2019s still not enough appreciation for the seriousness of integration. You people try to placate<\/em> me to my face but down within, you have not understood the totality<\/em> of what I mean. This is not anything to be joking with. You should be crying<\/em> with all the anxiety<\/em> of your hearts. There should be a burden, a love, an outgoing compas\u2013 compensation of saying and feeling for the cause of the Negro, and some of you only feel around (voice drops) the skin of your (unintelligible word) or the skin of your uh, your uh, whatever the heck it is. It\u2019s not important. Your pigmentation. That\u2019s all the place you feel it. It\u2019s (unintelligible word)\u00a0 superficial relationship, to please Jim Jones. You make him all kinds of offers of devotion and loyalty inside the assembly room. You try to give him money<\/em>. It will not satisfy. (Voice climbs) For I do not want<\/em> your money, nor I will not receive<\/em> your money and I do not want anything<\/em> but your devotion, selfless devotion to the \u201cI am\u201d principle, which I represent and (Voice calms) I have represented accurately. (Pause) And you cannot deny it. For I have not given myself to selfish devotion. I\u2019ve given myself to the love principle. I work just as you work, and probably a little bit more of it often. I\u2019ve traveled these mountains when they are treacherous indeed. These roads are like, uh, paradise, celestial streams compared to the roads that go to Boonville, when, during the rains, the rocks are there at every curve, at every crossroads, there\u2019re big boulders facing me. And some of you ought to listen to what I\u2019m doing, instead of trying to kid<\/em> me. And some of you are trying to kid<\/em> me, and I mean that seriously, you\u2019re trying to kid<\/em> me. You\u2019re trying to play a foxy<\/em> game with me. (Short laugh) (Pause) You think that I<\/em> think you\u2019re loyal when I just sit and listen to you. (Pause) You\u2019re not kidding me<\/em>, you\u2019re kidding God. I hear great overtures of loyalty. I hear great overtures of loyalty of Christ Church of the Golden Rule, what they\u2019re going to do and this, that and the other. But it never gets done. Hmm? Fear<\/em> grips the human heart, and we\u2019re afraid. We\u2019re afraid of our position<\/em>. We\u2019re afraid of our place<\/em>. We\u2019re afraid of being pushed out or forced out from the comforts<\/em> of the material, and so we just refrain from supporting that which we really down in our hearts believe is of a divine nature. If you\u2019ll keep with me, everybody, there\u2019s something\u2013 there\u2019s a sermon here for everybody this morning, if you\u2019ll uh, just keep in tune with me. (Pause) And don\u2019t come up and ask me if you\u2019re\u2013 and I alluded to the Christ Church of the Golden Rule. Don\u2019t come up and ask me if it is I. If it is you, you know it. And if it isn\u2019t you, you won\u2019t have any questions. Right?
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\nCongregation: <\/strong>Right.
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\nJones: <\/strong>For everybody here is not indicted. Neither in the Christ Church of the Golden Rule or of People\u2019s Church, but I am telling you a compounding of what I have felt<\/em> by revelation as I often have the spirit of discernment. As you\u2019ve seen, in every meeting, something of revelation will come out. Things that happen, things that will happen, things that will take place, things that have taken place, in every meeting you\u2019ve seen the unfoldment of people as last week that I\u2019d never met, nor heard tell of, or as sister Ward said, uh\u2013 Worley [Dorothy Worley was married to Ward Worley] said I\u2019ve never even mentioned to my husband. Names<\/em> that I couldn\u2019t even remember<\/em> in mortal mind, or they\u2019d\u2019ve gone<\/em> from my memory. This happens every meeting. Surely you know that the divine mind doesn\u2019t just operate in this public room. No, it doesn\u2019t operate to call. It won\u2019t operate for the machinations of some kind of a game on Saturday nights play time. But it does<\/em> operate often and more frequently sometimes than we\u2019d like to consider perhaps. (Pause) As long as fear constrains us, manifestation of the true, the ideal, the noble, will not take place. As long as there\u2019s any other affection or devotion between our consciousness<\/em> and the saving principle or the conveyor of the saving principle. Not only will\u2013 must we have our way clean between\u2013 or clear between God<\/em> and our soul, but my own<\/em> instrumentalities between here and God that are bringing us revelation. Now I think that will fall on ears, and understand there\u2019s no ego in this. And God help you if you blaspheme, because I\u2019m speaking truth this morning. From the depths<\/em> of my being, I\u2019m speaking truth.
\nThere\u2019s little horror\u2013 There\u2019s little chance for real accord in this valley, and I am in trepidation that someplace God\u2019s going to remove some of us, all of us, or a part of us, for there\u2019s very little chance for accord in this valley of indecision. I\u2019m speaking as a prophet, now. See, I\u2019m giving suggestion to mortal mind. All right, it\u2019s whatever you want to call it. You know\u2013 you who know, you who are better able to judge this gift than I who\u2019ve had it for fifteen years. I suppose you would say I was giving ro\u2013 room for mortal suggestion when I admonished and loved and warned about various things that have come to pass here. No, I was just speaking of that which our spiritual realm was going to bring to pass because of a lack of fulfilling purpose and objectivity, (voice picks up speed and strength) that if you go along a death route, you\u2019re going to bring death results. If you go along a limitation route, you\u2019re going to bring limitation<\/em> results. If you lived in fear, lacks, wants, limitations, insecurities, greed<\/em>, allow the incestuous jealousies that face mortal thought, (calms) you\u2019re bound to reproduce it at the end of the rainbow. (Pause)
\nI know some of you are unsettled, and I\u2019ve struck hard on some of you this morning. But you need it. And I hate<\/em> with my mortal mind to do it. Because I have fear<\/em> when it comes to ever striking out at you people. I love you, but I must be true to the \u201cI am.\u201d I\u2019ve got to clean up all<\/em> the debris that kind of holds from week to week. I\u2019ve got to open the channels and get everything out and be just as expressive<\/em> and as operative<\/em> as I want you to be, for I\u2019ve come<\/em> to manifest God. I have come<\/em> on the wings of this morning to make God manifest, to dwell in your midst. And I know that I have not counted<\/em> some sort of principle that cannot be recreated or maximized in our midst. Because he said, when it was spoken of Jesus, why are you the\u2013 called the son of God? He said, is it not written that ye are Gods and sons of the most high? And did he not declare that he said these things shall you do and greater, because I<\/em> go to the Father because I have come. He says it\u2019s expedient that I go away as it\u2019s always often expedious that the instrument for the moment goes<\/em> away. He says it\u2019s expedient that I go away, for if I go not away, the comforter<\/em> will not come. Whether he, the comforter \u2013 and I notice I want you to catch the reference, he<\/em>, the comforter \u2013 when he<\/em> comes, he<\/em> will lead you into (stretches word) all<\/em> truth. He will teach you all things. How be it when the spirit<\/em> of the comforter has come? When he has come, whom the father will send in my name (unintelligible). He will lead you and guide you into all truths. (Pause) Or for comfort a man in me, the spirit of courage, and uh\u2013 and if you were to ever refer to me and I would say in\u2013 in this instance, if you\u2019d every refer to me I would re\u2013 re\u2013 re\u2013 refer\u2013 not to refer to me as prophet or some other kind of ennobling priestly label. I have merely been your courageous<\/em> friend, for I have come<\/em> in that spirit, and it\u2019s in that spirit that I stand this morning as a friend<\/em> of you and a friend of God, and a courageous one by determination. I have (unintelligible word) to be a courageous friend, and that\u2019s all the comforter is. That\u2019s all the Holy Spirit is. And whoever instrumentality of that Holy Spirit will be that which speaks courageously the things that he sees.<\/p>\n

Let me say the Holy Ghost with you. He said he will not<\/em> speak of himself. He\u2019ll not<\/em> speak of his mortal desires. He\u2019ll not<\/em> speak of the things that will make him of man a pleaser and esteemed by the body politic of man, but he will speak<\/em> those things which he heareth it, and for Paul, those things which are to come. This is what I\u2019ve come to do. And I\u2019m in that spirit, as any other prophet has ever been at any time or any place or any dispensation. But the fact is that when you are looking around for something and you come and you read books or you philosophize about great miracles and you\u2019re looking forward to some manifestation someplace, there is no higher manifestation [than] what\u2019s taking place in this little valley. This is an honored place here, while it\u2019s lasting. For out of all of the kingdoms of this world, this valley has been called upon to bring a perfectibility and a perfection. And way after it\u2019s gone but a short time, people will cry out for its return. For when the voice of a Logos leaves this valley, dissolution and dissipation will be evident on every hand.
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