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If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

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\nTo read the Annotated Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>.
\nTo read the Tape Summary, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).<\/p>\n

(Note: <\/strong>This tape was transcribed by Vicki Perry. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/i><\/p>\n

Several moments of silence<\/p>\n

Part 1:<\/b><\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(begins in mid-sentence) \u2013for children that never met<\/i>, because if it was your mother\u2013 you\u2019re the mother<\/i>. And you\u2019re a member of this church \u2013 excuse me \u2013 if a child never been here, but if you\u2019re the mother<\/i>, we\u2013 we have a love<\/i> for you.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>We feel to shelter<\/i> you. That\u2019s the kind of father that I am. Won\u2019t find a father like that anymore. They just don\u2019t make<\/i> them in these churches. That\u2019s why today on the radio, a minister announced, said all the ministers got to get together, we gotta do somethin\u2019 about Jim Jones. Sure<\/i>. On KGR or something, he got on there, whatever his name was. Aldridge [phonetic]. Who\u2013 Who? Who is Aldridge?<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible about Aldridge)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>What? What is it?<\/p>\n

Voice in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible about Aldridge)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>What is it?<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible about Aldridge)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>J.B.\u2013 What is it? (Stumbles over words) Well, one of you stand up that know it, and then the rest of you\u2013 Who is it\u2013 who is it that knows what they\u2019re talking about?<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>S-h-h-h. What?<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And what is his<\/i> church?<\/p>\n

Woman in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Hmm?<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And so he\u2019s going to have a meeting<\/i> to\u2013 Now, now, no\u2013 That<\/i> should tell you all you need to know. When a minister has to have a meeting about me and wants others to meet to do something against<\/i> me, then you know who it is<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I<\/i> never called any meeting to do anything about anybody, because when I know that they\u2019re not of God, I know the Spirit<\/i> can take care of it.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>So when they\u2019re calling all\u2013 calling this meeting, when they\u2019re calling this kind of a meeting<\/i>, they don\u2019t\u2013 it shows<\/i> they\u2019re not children<\/i> of God, because they wouldn\u2019t do<\/i> that kind of thing to try to hurt anybody. You don\u2019t do<\/i> that.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Gamaliel said in the Acts of the apostles, he said, don\u2019t you fight<\/i> these people. Said, don\u2019t touch<\/i> them, the great man of the San Hedron [phonetic], he said lest happily you find yourself fighting God<\/i>. He said if it is not of God, it won\u2019t stand, and if it is of God<\/i>, then you\u2019ll be in trouble, because you\u2019ll find yourself fight\u2013 fighting God<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>When a man gets on a radio station and calls people to meet<\/i> to do something about James Jones\u2013 Jim Jones over the radio, it shows<\/i> \u2013 nobody has to tell<\/i> you what\u2019s going on here \u2013 it shows you that God Almighty<\/i> is in this place.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Calms, then voice rises) The idea. What kind of a man<\/i> that he is. What kind of a man? The audacity, you see. The enemies of God, beliler, a mast on every hand, that\u2013 that\u2019s why you have to stand together. I welcome, I welcome (unintelligible) office. I will take<\/i> them. Living is harder than dying. I welcome Gethsemanes. I can take a cross any time. But you best not let anything happen to this church or any of its leadership. You best stand together. United we stand, divided we fall.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Who heard this on the radio? Who heard this on the radio, him talking about that?<\/p>\n

Woman in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>What is it?<\/p>\n

Woman in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Shhh!<\/p>\n

Woman in congregation<\/b>: (Unintelligible, emotional)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Thank you, thank you.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Sustained applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Bless\u2013 Bless you. She says she got four thousand dollars. What did you\u2013 what\u2019d he say, exactly, on the radio? Sister, what\u2019d he say? I didn\u2019t discern\u2013 I didn\u2019t discern this other than something about the name,<\/i> and I couldn\u2019t get it clear. Yes, go ahead. Shh!<\/p>\n

Woman 1: <\/b>(Unintelligible, then mic comes on) He said tomorrow. (Aside) Was it tomorrow? (back to mic) Tomorrow at eleven that they were having a meeting with the ministers\u2019 union.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Woman 1: <\/b>And the (unintelligible word, sounds like \u201cpublic\u201d) was invited.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>For what?<\/p>\n

Woman 2: <\/b>I don\u2019t know for what.<\/p>\n

Woman 1: <\/b>That\u2019s all I heard him say.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Well, there\u2019s someone said\u2013 he said it was going to be a meeting about Jim Jones.<\/p>\n

Woman 1: <\/b>No, I didn\u2019t hear him say that. I didn\u2019t hear him say that. He heard that this morning. He didn\u2019t (unintelligible) Jim Jones (unintelligible).<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>He didn\u2019t mention it this morning?<\/p>\n

Woman 1: <\/b>No, he didn\u2019t.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Hmm?<\/p>\n

Woman 1: <\/b>I\u2013 What I heard him\u2013 from my house to here, in my car\u2013<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Stumbles over words) \u2013what this sister\u2019s saying.<\/p>\n

Woman 2:<\/b> He did<\/i> say he had to do something about Jim Jones, (unintelligible word) all the members of the meeting, because they had to have a conference and do something about this Jim Jones.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>He said what?<\/p>\n

Woman 1: <\/b>He did say that. He did say that he had to do something about this Jim Jones. At least I heard that on the radio this morning.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(short laugh)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Yes, dear. It\u2019s wonderful.<\/p>\n

(Woman talking in background, unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Woman 2:<\/b> We wants a lot of our people to be there. We want a lot of our people to be there, so we can get protested (unintelligible under Jones)\u2013<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Yes, if you\u2013 I\u2019m not worried, I don\u2019t need to raise my finger against this man.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Sustained applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Cries out) Hey God. (Pause) (Calms) Somehow we got to\u2013 It\u2019s all right, indeed, if some of you want to go. How very likely they won\u2019t discuss anything<\/i>, if you\u2019re sitting there. Very likely they won\u2019t say a word. But I\u2013 I want to tell you that my<\/i> duty and your<\/i> duty is not to go\u2013 you, uh\u2013 you\u2019ve got\u2013 you must pray<\/i> for those that despitefully use you.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>It\u2019s rough. It\u2019s rough when people just trying to cause trouble all the time. Some sister, some brother sending here a note, by a sister Thursday night, who it was\u2013 one of\u2013 another minister, said I\u2019m going to do anything in my power to get that Jim Jones \u2013 in other words threatening<\/i> \u2013 says I\u2019ve lost too many members.<\/p>\n

Woman in congregation<\/b>: Oh!<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Yes, I\u2019ve lost too many members.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>They\u2019re all stirred up. I\u2019ll<\/i> tell you what they\u2019re all stirred up about. Because I\u2019ve told about their anniversaries and their pastors\u2019 teas<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>They don\u2019t care\u2013 they wouldn\u2019t\u2013 they wouldn\u2019t care at all. If I was God Almighty. They wouldn\u2019t care. The thing that bothers them is that I come along, and I wear old clothes and I don\u2019t own a car and I don\u2019t have a ring, I don\u2019t have a watch. And I never take an anniversary and I never had a pastor\u2019s birthday. That\u2019s<\/i> what\u2019s bothering them<\/i>. That\u2019s what\u2019s getting them stirred up!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Sustained applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Calls out) Because all\u2013 most the good ministers are here today or out in some little old mission somewhere. These big jacklegs that g\u2013 rob the people blind. driving Cadillacs and Lincolns and Rolls Royces, and that\u2019s<\/i> why they don\u2019t want Jim Jones on the scene<\/i>, \u2018cause Jim Jones has come with a plan<\/i> in his hand!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Sustained applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And he\u2019s shaking creation!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Sustained cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You don\u2019t have to name it. You don\u2019t have to name it. Its works will speak for itself.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Calls out) You go tell no man anything. You just tell them that there\u2019s somebody<\/i>\u2013 there\u2019s a black-headed preacher<\/i>. I don\u2019t know whether he\u2019s black or Indian. He\u2019s mixed up like every alley dog. Well, I\u2019ll tell you, there\u2019s an old alley<\/i> dog over on Alvarado that\u2019s causing cancers<\/i> to come out, that\u2019s causing the people to walk, that\u2019s causing the blind<\/i> to see, causing the dead to rise!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Sustained applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I don\u2019t care what you say, you just say any old alley dog. Say he\u2019s just an old black-haired fella mixed up with all<\/i> kinds of races, but it\u2019s amazing<\/i> what he can do. He walked on the water, he\u2019s turned the water into wine. He\u2019s stopped the rain, and he caused the rain to come when they needed rain.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>They said it\u2019s amazing, when he comes to town, most every day comes to town, the smog<\/i> clears up.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Sustained applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Not one time yet have I been in this city when the eyes burned, not one time that I have been in this city, they didn\u2019t say there was smog is light or no b\u2013 eye-burning today. Or the smog is gone, a strange breeze has blown in.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Voice drops slightly, then builds) Certainly it\u2019s all right to go at eleven o\u2019clock and sit there lovingly and prayerfully if you choose<\/i>. I\u2019ll leave up that to your own<\/i> intuition. Each of your have to put legs on your prayers, you can\u2019t sit back and just think, well, I\u2019ll just think<\/i> it and let Father do the work. You have to be willing to do<\/i> something. But I want to tell you for\u2013 as for me as a person<\/i>, whatever comes, I\u2019m just expendable. I\u2019m a sacrificial lamb. I\u2019m ready to be sacrificed. Either alive or dead, or imprisoned. In tumults, in riotings, whatever. Whatever man wants to do with me, I\u2019m here to glorify the name of Jesus!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And if you\u2019re sluggish, if you\u2019re weary and well doing, the gaps of the hedge will drop, the wall of fire will drop, and they\u2019ll take me and do with me what they will, but whatever they do, I will say thank God, for I have come to suffer. I have come to give my life freely<\/i>, that people might be healed, that they might be free.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Voice drops slightly, then builds) If you stand up with courage and dignity, if you stand on your own back legs and faced all the adverse winds, and say I will not be moved, then nothing will come nigh us. But if you are weak and weary and well doing, they will come and take me and do with me what they will as they have done before. You<\/i> must decide. For I\u2019ve come for many generations down through forty generations. I have come treading the winepresses alone and of the people, there were none to help. I have come dying. I have died a thousand<\/i> deaths, and I am ready to die again. I will do what I will<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>But whether you believe what I am or not, whether you accept what I am or not, I am<\/i> what I am, nonetheless.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Loud applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Call me what you will<\/i>, call me alley dog or call me alley cat. Call me Jim Jones or call me by my right<\/i> name, it makes no difference. I will still do my work, because they that are against me cannot be as great as that which is within me. Oh, no!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheering and applause<\/p>\n

(Unintelligible voice aside)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Laughs softly) (Voice calms, then builds) Well, they\u2013 let\u2019s say it is true. It\u2019s true that remarks have been made. It\u2019s true. But I say to you that there isn\u2019t no action to the remarks. If you want to be there, and in case somebody wants to make remarks and look at them and with a prayerful attitude to let them know that you know in whom you have believed and you are persuaded that who you think the truth happens (unintelligible, overwhelms mic) that day. (Calms) You want to go in and shake hands and smile with people and love<\/i> them, but don\u2019t go in to proselytize or to stir up or to cause strife or envy. Just be a silent vigil of that which you say I am. (Clears throat)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Don\u2019t talk. Don\u2019t gossip. Don\u2019t bear the tale out. Don\u2019t give any satisfaction to your enemies. But I want to tell you, the key<\/i> rests with you. I said the key<\/i>, my child, rests with you.<\/p>\n

Man\u2019s voice in crowd:<\/b> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I have come with none other purpose than to do the will of him<\/i> that sent me.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheering, Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I have come, dying daily, I have come crucified<\/i> in the flesh, nevertheless I live<\/i>, yes that I, Jim Jones, but Christ<\/i> sent me to be me.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>The life<\/i> I live, I live not by the flesh of Jim Jones, but by the will<\/i> of the son of God, (calms) so I can be here and we can build temples and build homes and build great, great ministries and extend our ministry, even to Houston as we did when we healed a man here that was brought in a wheelchair, and now he\u2019s holding two meetings a day, that great Baptist official [Bishop Crane] over five thousand churches. And I healed him instantly<\/i> when I said go tell this minister, go tell that minister, that this day<\/i> you have seen someone<\/i> face-to-face (Pause) and you know what the someone was. And he went and told of this day. I have met him face<\/i>-to-face, and he came out<\/i> of the wheelchair and he\u2019s been healing<\/i> the sick with my pictures and my name and my oil ever since (Pause) in the biggest and the oldest historical Baptist church down there in Texas. And I\u2019m going to go there next week, and you better make your reservations to come to leave with us Sunday evening, as we go down there. Then we go back in Easter. So, if it is the\u2013 if it is indeed that you\u2019re brave, if the comforter has come into your life, that spirit that I represent, the Holy Comforter, which means the spirit of bravery. If I have put<\/i> that spirit in you, if indeed my statutes<\/i> are written on your inward parts and my law<\/i> is in your heart. If you have bravery, then we shall expand and we shall move and we shall build but if you are weak, if you are a vacillating Peter, if you are afraid to be identified with me, if you say I never knew the man<\/i>, if you\u2019re afraid to stand up and be counted, then they\u2019ll take<\/i> me and do with me what they will. But anyway, my glory and my truth<\/i> will go marching on. Nothing<\/i> can stop God!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I said nothing<\/i> can stop God!<\/p>\n

Man\u2019s voice in crowd:<\/b> No! No!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>If you put me in a jail cell, I will cause creation<\/i> to be shaken. If you put me in a cross or put me in an electric chair, I will cause creation<\/i> to be shaken. Whatever you give me, if you mean it for evil, I will take it and I\u2019ll turn it around and ram it up you for good.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You\u2019ve never met a man<\/i> like this<\/i> man before. A man who doth not have any future. A man who doth not have any past. A man who has nothing but the actual<\/i> presence, the ever<\/i> present, the actual<\/i> personal present tense of God in a body.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheering and applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Voice calms, then builds) I have no desire but to do the will of God. I have no future plan to retire on some lovely hill. I have no desire to be out under some palm tree. I have only the desire to be God in the flesh, manifest to bring forth salvation in the name of Jesus. I have no other desire. So what can you do with me? There\u2019s nothing that you can kill<\/i>, there\u2019s nothing you can destroy<\/i>. I have no dreams<\/i>, I have no ambitions but to do the will of God Almighty!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Glossolalia) Some of you are not standing because you yet not know. You never met, and you still don\u2019t know that you\u2019ve not met a man like this man before.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>They stir up the pot. They advertise they will. Let them do it. Let them do it. Every knock is a boost and every criticism is a praise.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Take what they will. Let\u2019s take what they will give us and turn it around and use it for good. I thought this day when they\u2019ve advertised us across the nation, call me the black Jesus. I\u2019m proud to be called black at least.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Two hundred and forty newspapers this\u2013 this past week across this nation referred to me as the black one. Well, whatever, as I said, I know I am black at heart, and that\u2019s a good thing to be, to be black at heart. It\u2019s beautiful.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>The man has lied<\/i>, you know. He\u2019s lied. He\u2019s taken King James and twisted words to be dark<\/i> when there was no such word<\/i> in the Hebrew, and so dark has become evil and black has become bad. And they\u2019ve brainwashed us into thinking black was something bad, but along came you know who<\/i>, and he says, \u201cBlack<\/i> is beautiful! Black<\/i> is wonderful! Black<\/i> is good<\/i>! Black is all<\/i> that is real and all that\u2019s genuine.\u201d<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Black is the night. Black is the night when you don\u2019t have to look on the filthiness of smog. Black is the night when you don\u2019t have to see the dirty, dirty streets. Black is the night when you don\u2019t have to see the look of racist prejudice. Black is the night when you could hide from your enemies. All<\/i> black is beautiful! Hey God! Black is beautiful!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(More conversational) The good reverend only succeeded in giving me a good sermon this morning. That\u2019s all he\u2019s accomplished thus far.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Hallelujah! I said hallelujah! Hallelujah!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>So it\u2013 Then know in your heart what you wish. If you wish to see your father, your pastor \u2013 which means a shepherd \u2013 if you wish to see your friend, the best friend you ever had, the best dad you ever had. If you wish to see him go through fiery trials, then let down<\/i> in your faith, let down<\/i> in your giving, let down<\/i> in your stewardship, be ashamed<\/i> of him out on the street when someone says do you know the man? Say, I\u2013 I\u2013oh, I go over there occasionally. Just do that way, and be sure, I can guarantee you, you\u2019ll see me in the courts, you\u2019ll see me in the jails. But if you go out and say, if they take my father, they have to take me, they\u2019ll bother nobody<\/i>!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers. Piano plays<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>If in your heart you covenant, united we stand, divided we fall. (Calms slightly, then builds) But please, though it matters not to me, if you\u2019re not ready to make that commitment, I will still love you whether it\u2019s in a jail falsely accused, or whether it\u2019s on a gallows, I will still love you because no one will keep you from my love. I have loved you from the beginning, and I shall love you in the end.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Please know that I am not concerned about what these people do. It makes no difference<\/i> to me what they do. There is nothing<\/i> they can do to stop<\/i> the purpose<\/i> of that which I am.<\/i> You can\u2019t block it, you can\u2019t hinder it, it\u2019s too wide to go around it. It\u2019s too high to go over it. It\u2019s too low to go under it. You\u2019re going to end up going through the door.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause; piano plays<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Calms, then builds) So you just know that your father has entered into that rest that is provided. [You] Say, there\u2019s a rest that is provided<\/i> for the children of God, and some must needs be enter therein. Where they rest from their works as the creator did on the sixth day. I have rested. There\u2019s no more ego, so when you don\u2019t have any ego, you\u2019re at home in jail, you\u2019re at home in the ghetto, you\u2019re at home on the back of the bus, you\u2019re at home without sleep when you don\u2019t have any ego, and you\u2019ve entered into the rest that Hebrews 4 talks about. The fourth chapter of Hebrews talks about that rest. (Calms) I\u2019ve entered into it. So don\u2019t you worry about whatever they\u2019re going to do to me. \u2018Cause I have entered into the rest. And they think they\u2019re gonna hurt me but they can\u2019t hurt me anymore. Can\u2019t hurt<\/i> me anymore because I died. I have died, but Christ has resurrected. Oh, yes, he has!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause; piano plays<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>The only talk you must consider is what you<\/i> will feel if you feel like Pilate when you have to wash<\/i> your hands. The only thing if you take concern if they come and do something with your (Claps hands once, quietens) pastor.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Voice climbs) It\u2019s a miserable thing to be like Pilate and have to wash your hands and the blood won\u2019t come off<\/i>. It\u2019s a miserable thing to look at your hands and said, \u201cOh, Jim, what have I done to you<\/i>? What have I done to you<\/i>? What have I done to you?\u201d That\u2019s all I want you to not have to worry with. I don\u2019t want you to have that agony. Some of you say, I can\u2019t pay the price of giving up my house or my home or my job. I can\u2019t take the chance of losing what I have. What you can\u2019t take the chance on is waking up, realizing, were you there when they crucified?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>That\u2019s what you\u2019re gonna make your mind to know. There nothing all the world you can\u2019t afford to pay, like the blood<\/i> of Jesus on your hands. And that\u2019s what I\u2019ve come, to glorify the name of Jesus. I have shown you the blood<\/i> of Jesus that has healed that Baptist minister, the blood flowed from these hands and opened up his eyes, so that he could read scripture and hold meetings again two times a day ever since he left here. It\u2019s the blood of Jesus<\/i> that you\u2019re trampling asunder. It\u2019s the work and life of Jesus<\/i> that you\u2019re taking with wicked hands and crucifying. (Calms) So you that are silent, and you that\u2019re indifferent here and you that\u2019ve come to spy on our liberty, what will you do with Jesus? What will you do with Jesus? That\u2019s the problem. Don\u2019t worry about Jim, don\u2019t worry about Jesus. Don\u2019t worry about him, he\u2019ll take care of himself. But what you\u2019ve got<\/i> to know, what will I feel as a saint, as a child of his, what will I feel if I have not held up his hands? It was lonely<\/i> for Peter. It was so lonely for Judas. Judas took the thirty pieces of silver<\/i>, and he run with them and threw them back. Threw<\/i> them at the p\u2013 the feet of the scribes. And they wouldn\u2019t have them. Said no<\/i>, take your pieces of silver, we don\u2019t want<\/i> your blood money. Judas says, oh, I didn\u2019t know what I did. Please<\/i>, I didn\u2019t know what I did. I did not know what I was doing. I did not realize when I kissed him and gave him the kiss of death. I didn\u2019t know what my conscience was going to feel like. (Pause) I have not preached this ever in my life so it must be someone here needs to listen to this.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause, music<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And so they wouldn\u2019t take his money, and he wouldn\u2019t pick it up, he left it laying there and he run down, and he run down<\/i> to the hill and he threw himself headlong. King James has got it mixed up. He didn\u2019t even bother to hang himself. He threw himself, \u2018cause you can\u2019t hang yourself as King James has it, and then throw\u2013 fall headlong and have your gash\u2013 your bowels gashed out. You don\u2019t hang yourself and then turn upside down and go headward. What he did \u2013 \u2018cause I know \u2013 Judas just went to the edge of a big cliff and dived<\/i> off. He wanted to put his mind out of commission, \u2018cause he couldn\u2019t stand the thought, I have crucified the one that was to come. I have crucified my pastor. I have crucified<\/i> my savior<\/i>. I have given the kiss of death. You say you can\u2019t afford to support this ministry? (Claps hands once) You can\u2019t afford not<\/i> to support this ministry. (Voice climbs) Because one day<\/i>, one day you\u2019ll wake up and you\u2019ll know who was in your midst. One day you\u2019ll shake yourself, and you\u2019ll realize it was he<\/i> that walked with you. (Calms, pleading tone) Please, don\u2019t let it happen to you, with empty hands and empty hearts. When you do wake up, at least say, I served him all the way. I walked with him every day.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I bore his cross by taking up my own cross. Please don\u2019t have that conscience upon you. Because Peter, to say I never knew him, three times. Bless you, bless you. Give your neighbor a hug. (hums, then begins to sing) Were you there when they crucified your God?\/ Were you there when they crucified your God? \/Oh, sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.\/ Were you there when they crucified your God? (speaks) Some of you weren\u2019t. Don\u2019t let it happen that you make a mistake again. (sings) Were you there when they nailed him to a tree?\/ Were you there when they nailed him to a tree?\/ Oh, sometimes it causes me to (Jones stops singing to let crowd sing) tremble, tremble, tremble.\/ (Sings) Were you there when they nailed him to the tree?\/ Don\u2019t be there when they lay him in some tomb.\/ Don\u2019t be there when they lay him in some tomb.\/ Oh, sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.\/ Were you there when they laid him in a tomb?\/ (Speaks) Hallelujah.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause, cheers<\/p>\n

Archie Ijames:<\/b> Oh, God, oh, God have mercy! Have mercy! Oh, God have mercy. (Pause) Oh, God have mercy. Have mercy! Hah! Yeah. Have mercy!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (sings) Oh, sometimes (tape edit) tree?\/ Were you there when they nailed me to the tree?\/ Oh, sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.\/ Were you there when they nailed him to the tree?\/ Don\u2019t be there when they crucify him again.\/ Don\u2019t be there if they crucify him again.\/ Oh, (unintelligible word) sometimes it causes me to tremble, tremble, tremble.\/ Were you there when they crucified your God?\/ Were you there when they crucified your God?<\/p>\n

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Part 2:<\/b><\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheering, applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(unintelligible) \u2013actually (unintelligible sentence) What you talking\u2013 nobody asked you to come up and buy something on the telephone. Don\u2019t you give me any of that. They want us to pay a little sales tax or something. We\u2013 we\u2019re sending (unintelligible word) religious auditors back there. We (unintelligible). Don\u2019t let them trip you up with the\u2013 they keep anything say anymore. So watch your fool mouth on the telephone!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Sister Nelson did a wonderful job, and I hope all of you will be as capable. Don\u2019t talk to anyone till they\u2019ve given you your telephone number, and if they\u2019re calling and wanting a whole lot of information, being in this church, say okay, your telephone number, can I call you back collect? If they say well, it\u2019s long distance, say, I\u2019ll call you back collect. I\u2019m very busy, so you call back and know who we\u2019re talking to. Don\u2019t you let anybody get you on the line when you\u2019ve got all the disadvantages, talking to somebody you don\u2019t know who you\u2019re talking to. I mean everybody, San<\/i> Francisco and Los<\/i> Angeles, you<\/i> don\u2019t have to give anybody<\/i> any information. You\u2019ll still free<\/i>, and if they want to take our freedom away, they\u2019re going to have to kill<\/i> us to take it away. (Clears throat)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>So I hope<\/i> you\u2019ll\u2013 you\u2019ll weigh that heavily on your mind. Don\u2019t\u2013 don\u2019t be taken in. A lot of treacherous bastards. They even have the nerve to slip in here, trying to rob\u2013 After yesterday I told the old boy he had a wig on his bald head. He went away and now a woman\u2019s back in his place.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Oh! (in unison)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>He knew<\/i> I was getting\u2019 too close when I said two weeks before, I said, \u201cYou have a b\u2013 You have a wig,\u201d and I guess he must not have got it straight, then I catch him with this wig, so he knew I had him so they sent him, on another mission. (Clears throat) (Pause) Yeah? Kind of how this boil your eyeballs. They sent him on a mission to El Paso. And my spirit\u2019s waiting on him.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>(clapping, cheering and laughing)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>[You] Say, how do you know that? I don\u2019t care how you think I know it. The fact is you know I know it.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>(Laughs)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Now comes the important figure of the day. 1677. Continue with this rate of inflation. If it gets to eleven point, it\u2019s ten point nine and a half. If it gets to eleven point, it cannot be sustained, only a few weeks, and you won\u2019t be able to get a dime out of your bank. You make a run on a bank? They said billions<\/i> \u2013 it said in every one of the newspapers \u2013 billions<\/i> of dollars would been lost. So keep that holding in there. Then I hope you feel awfully<\/i> sad when you\u2019ve deprived us of land. The only thing that\u2019s worth anything is land. Say, I buy land here. Worth nothing because you are black. They\u2019ll take it away from you just like they took it away from the Japanese in 1941. Well, 1942, to be accurate. Took it all away, four hundred million dollars of it. Never gave hardly any of it back. Robbed them of everything in their home. They couldn\u2019t even take the pictures of their lung\u2013 their young people, like the brother we know whose mother died in a concentration camp. Six months, she was in pain with cancer, without an aspirin. They wouldn\u2019t even give her an aspirin<\/i>. In the first place, you couldn\u2019t keep it if they didn\u2019t put you in concentration camp, \u2018cause you won\u2019t have any money coming in. You\u2019re going to be the first, you know, fired. We\u2019re the last hired and we\u2019re the first fired. How you going to pay your taxes when it comes? We\u2019ve got the president [Forbes Burnham, prime minister of Guyana] over there loves us so much, we\u2019re the only group that\u2019s been given tax free status. No<\/i> taxes \u2013 even personal taxes \u2013 for ten<\/i> years. (Pause) That\u2019s something to think about. (Clears throat)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Now if you in the light of that truth, rob this church, great is your judgment. 1677 [$16.77]. (Pause) Thank you, Sister Stayton. Thank you, Professor [Edith] Roller. Thank you, thank you. Remember, 1677 is the most important gift that you can (unintelligible) (Tape edit) 100 are turned away from that door, because they don\u2019t answer the right question. So you can know that you are worthy, because you said the right answers on some questions. When they ask you about brotherhood or\u2013 I look at you and I say, they\u2019re all right, their spirit\u2019s all right. Or I let a Judas come in to do their work until the time comes, \u2018cause I got some Judas\u2019s are confused, they don\u2019t know whether they\u2019re coming or going.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>(Laughs)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>All our sister\u2019s doing now is worrying about how fast she can get out of here and get to the nearest telephone. It\u2019s down here on Alvarado. Pay telephone\u2013 couple of them\u2013 we get down there and she\u2019s worried\u2013 worrying about how to get out of here without me noticing, and you know<\/i> I\u2019m going to notice if you move during the service. So I\u2019m holding the service a little bit longer because you\u2019re worrying about getting the\u2013 uh, get that poor brother in El Paso before my spirit gets him. (Clears throat)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Laughs<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>[You] Say, do you have my telephone line bugged? Yeah, I\u2019ve got everybody\u2019s telephone line bugged. My Spirit is here, there and everywhere.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and laughter<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I\u2019ve got no bugs on anybody\u2019s telephone. That\u2019ll make you n\u2013 even more nervous. Yes, sister? Bless beloved. Why don\u2019t you new folk look at her. Operated. They took away \u2013 radium, surgery \u2013 they took away most of her stomach and her bowels. Year ago January. She kept coming in here though, patiently. Never got called out, wasting away. Then I called her. She passed\u2013 spit up this cancer, passed the cancer. In January 1973. In May 1973, the doctor said you\u2019re a well woman. This was when her way past her 70\u2013 her three score and ten. But\u2013 But the Sky God said you could live way<\/i> past. But it\u2019s beautiful. She looks like a woman much younger than that. Her age is nobody\u2019s business. Now that\u2019s been a year ago, a year and a half. Not a trace of cancer with all of her stomach (unintelligible) eaten up and her bowels eaten up with cancer, and it\u2019s all gone. What the surgeons\u2013 the surgeons sent her home. Said I\u2019ve got\u2013 You must go home and prepare to die. Sent her home to die. And I<\/i> sent her back to the doctor to live.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>How many will give 10 and then\u2013 (Tape edit) and some will hold back till the sixteenth, and really wished they hadn\u2019t. Thank you. Ten. How many (Unintelligible with tape edit) people give more around certain numbers? It\u2019s a law of life, it\u2019s not foolishness. Seven seventy seven\u2013 (Tape edit) (Unintelligible word). I even know your cat.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Laughs<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I\u2013 that\u2019s something. When I was going down Alvarado Street, I knew your cat and I pulled<\/i> my car in such a way, it stopped somebody else from hitting your cat. So you see, that\u2019s some God that can know your cat. (Cries out) Oh! (Pause) That\u2019s a mighty God! (Calms) Seven. (Tape edit) should take you through a year of Depression. If we only had a Depression. Hopefully that would be all. If we have concentration camps<\/a>, we\u2019ve got to have food across to the promised land, we\u2019ve got to get there or there\u2019ll be no safety. How many have seen our children\u2019s home? Our acreage, our pears, our grapes, our wonderful uh, farm lands, our animals. How many have seen the convalescent sanitariums? Few of you have seen the new convalescent hospital or sanitarium in Ukiah, I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m sure. And very few of you have seen the college dormitories. Well, hopefully next Sunday \u2013 you want to be planning to come up next Sunday \u2013 we may have some news about an Oakland church. It\u2019s a miracle of miracles.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Church worth a million dollars. But the preacher [Harold Dowler] said, there\u2019s only man on one church that\u2019s worth anything in America. It\u2019s called First Church, the oldest church there in the denomination, in\u2013 in Oakland. Beautiful<\/i> church, sets up on a marvelous hill with a parking lot larger than ours. Fifty-two rooms. Pipe organ worth a hundred thousand dollars, worth a million dollars, and he said, if you know what you\u2019ll do\u2013 ought to do, you\u2019ll let me resign<\/i> and you will integrate with that church and turn your property over, and let me tell you, their board passed on it this week, to turn the church over and today\u2013 and by Wednesday, the final vote\u2013 the absentee ballots will come in, and usually the congregation always goes the way the board has gone. The board voted unanimously to turn the church over to Jim Jones.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>It\u2019ll make those in the Bay Area proud, because it\u2019s a marvelous church. The windows are even more valued than these. The windows cost hundreds<\/i> of thousands of dollars and were transported from Italy. So that\u2019ll be good for us to convert that to cash, with the\u2013 if we get it, when we need to travel, won\u2019t it?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Marvelous! You better get in with us. You\u2019ve never heard of any church ever turning anything over to another man. We may have more per\u2013 persecutions, prosecutions, troubles than anybody, because they that live godly will<\/i>, but we also have more miracles than you ever heard tell of in your life.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Now, I say from the depths of my heart, again, 51 percent of (unintelligible, tape edit) at any time, not one time will I fail to recognize you. You may think I don\u2019t know you, but I know exactly<\/i> where you belong, \u2018cause I\u2019m that hollow<\/i> of the hand that has to protect you. You have to rest<\/i> in this hand, because when you\u2019re praying to God<\/i> out there, I\u2019m<\/i> answering if you get an answer.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Three. (unintelligible, tape edit) (Pause) But don\u2019t twiddle when you have to twaddle.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Reacts<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Two. Christian socialism will make everyone in this room \u2013 even you business people \u2013 in better state than you\u2019re in today. You\u2019re worrying yourself to death, having to beat yourself around the clock. I see some of our good business people here, have to beat themselves to death<\/i> to keep their business. You\u2019ll be free<\/i> of it. Get rid of those businesses. Set down and work in a cooperative, where everybody\u2019ll have to take care of the business. Well, that would be a whole lot better for you, wouldn\u2019t it now? Now just think, wouldn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Some of you know how bad it is, how heavy it is to carry a business load. You know how awful<\/i> that load is. I wish more have had<\/i> to be in business, then maybe some people\u2019d take care of Father\u2019s<\/i> business better. \u2018Cause then you know a little bit about what I carry up here on the shoulders. Quickly, how many will give one more? They said tomatoes would not grow in the jungle, and they\u2019re growing lusciously and big. Isn\u2019t that wonderful?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>People are coming around to see the tomatoes. They ought to know that Father can do anything. Make tomatoes grow just as well as he can do anything else.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Although I don\u2019t think once you\u2019ve tasted that luscious coffee, tea and berry juice and all those b\u2013 bananas, oranges and all the kinds of fruits, I don\u2019t think you\u2019d miss a tomato. But I know some of you like tomatoes, so you\u2019ve got your tomatoes. They\u2019re growing<\/i>, just as big and pretty as (Unintelligible word). (Pause) Say, I don\u2019t want to go anywhere. I bet you, if the concentration camps, you\u2019ll want to be doing something.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Responds<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And if you don\u2019t believe me, you owe it to yourself to go out there tonight and order Glass House Tapes<\/i>. If that don\u2019t cause the hair to stand on the back of your head, \u2018cause there is police proof in black and white to prove<\/i> what I\u2019m saying. How many have read Glass House Tapes<\/i>? Shakes one up, doesn\u2019t it? (Pause) Read The Choice<\/i>, get some of those books when you\u2019re getting the Holy Aura. You\u2019d save the pictures\u2013 uh, my pictures alone have saved over sixty thousand<\/i> lives. Miracles of every kind, just by touching the picture. How many have gotten a miracle by just touching my picture on you, or touching it on someone? (Pause) Look at that. (Clears throat) You oughta have them. You see, it\u2019s a matter of energy<\/i> field. I charge those, I don\u2019t\u2013 Everything that goes out there, I touch it personally. And if I don\u2019t feel that (Unintelligible word), I don\u2019t let it go out on the shelf. You\u2019ll see me stop here with oil, and it\u2019ll go, I don\u2019t feel quite that energy reverberation, I bring it right back and touch it again. I\u2019m not loose and fast with this. It\u2019s from the depths<\/i> of my heart, and that\u2019s the way it has to be. The candles, they are synchronized. Six o\u2019clock, six o\u2019clock, that\u2019s the way you get into unity of mind. How many use a candle at sixth hour? You ought<\/i> to. Think positively, think healthily, breathe deeply. (Pause) Peace. (Pause) All the candles, the pictures and the books. Get<\/i> them so you\u2019ll know the truth. I\u2019d hate<\/i> for you to find out this truth the hard way. \u2018Cause what I\u2019m saying to you is all true.<\/p>\n

It blows<\/i> your mind<\/i>, but it was on the front pages of your newspaper this week. They have perfected a biological chemical that can kill all<\/i> black people sitting in this room and every white person will be sitting up. They can do it to white too<\/i>, but they\u2019re not studying<\/i> how to do it to white. Said they\u2019d only studied how to do it to black, Indians and Mexicans. (Pause) Something to think about. (Clears throat) It\u2019s in the newspaper. (Pause) They call them biologicals<\/i>. (Pause) Now you know that\u2019s true. You can use DDT\u2013 there\u2019s someone there very ill going by so\u2013 you\u2019re going by my aura and I sense it. Just\u2013 just tell them how the procedure works. (Pause) It\u2019s in the spinal<\/i> region. (Pause) Lumbar. (Pause) My friend, (Pause) study to show yourself approved. How many are going to study more to get this truth, before you learn it the hard way? The man is not making these things uh, if he doesn\u2019t intend to use them. Why would any group of government scientists make a biological that can destroy all black people. (Breathless) Why? (Pause) \u2018Cause he intends to use them somehow. People don\u2019t make things they don\u2019t intend to use. What kind of depraved mind would even think<\/i> of making such a thing as that? Unless it was a sinister\u2013 sinister murderer that had some evil plan up their sleeve. (Clear throat) (unintelligible) kissing on the left cheek to synchronize, \u2018cause it\u2019s been a long<\/i> day of teaching today, longer than it will be usually. (hums) When I was giving this sermon, though, transmission on tape, your name was put down by me\u2013 I ne\u2013 great need. So put your hand up if your name is Annie Harris. Better pause, better rate. (Pause) Close your eyes for just a moment. Meditate lovingly, like it was your neighbor (Clear throat) or your friend or your mother or your father. (Pause) I know nothing about your life. You\u2019ve never told me anything, is that correct?<\/p>\n

Annie Harris:<\/b> No.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You\u2019re new to me though, there\u2013 you\u2019re in there in the choir. (Pause) I\u2019ve not called<\/i> you out, but I am now<\/i> calling you. Keep your hands clasped.<\/p>\n

(organ begins playing)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Are you uh, from El Dorado, Arkansas?<\/p>\n

Harris:<\/b> Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Keep your hands clasped. I never called you out.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>No.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Or see that in your mind. But I passed<\/i> by, you\u2019re saying, and you were eating something. And I put you on a diet.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Is that correct?<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Hands clasped, \u2018cause I don\u2019t remember that. You had three brothers and three sisters.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Keep your hands clasped. You\u2019ve got a very enlarged heart. (Pause) I said your heart<\/i> is enlarged.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Hands clasped. Keep your hands clasped, please. Your mother\u2019s name was Elizabeth.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(tape distortion) I know I\u2019m listening to something beyond this world now. (Pause) And I hear her say, she\u2019ll think\u2013 she\u2019s not giving me\u2013 you\u2019ve only told us your name\u2019s Annie Harris, you\u2019ve not said any more than that. But I hear her saying Annie Mae.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Hands clasped. (Pause) Spirit. (Pause) She said remember? It was so cold that day. You were very small.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>It was so cold, and it rained so hard against the windows that evening when she passed away.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes\u2013 Yes, it\u2013 Yes, yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>She said, Annie, never forget, only God<\/i> could tell you that.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Reacts<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Keep your hands clasped, (Unintelligible word). (Pause) (Glossolalia) Do you have \u201cThere Is No Greater Love\u201d\u2013 an album that \u201cThere\u2019s No Greater Love\u201d any place in your possession? A musical album that \u201cThere Is No Greater Love\u201d?<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>I don\u2019t understand.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Do you have an uh\u2013 an album, a record album with \u201cThere Is No\u2013 There Is No Greater Love\u201d?<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes. Yes, I have.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I\u2019ve never been in your home and you\u2019ve not told me anything.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>No.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Keep your hands clasped. Do you have an insurance number that is 437268368365A? Yes, that\u2019s marvelous that the spirit of truth could know those kind of things. Keep your hands clasped. You have a plaque<\/i> some place put away, \u201cThe Lord\u2019s Prayer.\u201d<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Someone\u2019s put witchcraft<\/i> on that. It must be brought<\/i> to me Thursday. See<\/i> that it\u2019s done so. A woman looked at it and admired it and touched it. Do you remember?<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>See, I am there<\/i>. I\u2019m there years<\/i> back. I can go way<\/i> back. And I can go way<\/i> in the future! Spirit!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Calls out<\/p>\n

(organ playing)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Mighty<\/i> God. Mighty God. Keep your hands clasped. You had five miscarriages, and there\u2019s difficulty in your back\u2013<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>\u2013 and in the lower female region.<\/p>\n

Harris: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Doctors could not reach the trouble that\u2019s in your body, bad (Unintelligible word), the puffiness, the soreness, in the lymph system, around the neck region. Spirit. Only<\/i> I can do what I\u2019m going to do now. Tuesday morning, there\u2019ll be a strain of some news that would take you into a heart attack. That wouldn\u2019t have taken you. But in taking you to the hospital, they would’ve found that you were spread full through, metastasized with cancer, but I\u2019m going to take you now down<\/i> to the bath. You go to any bathroom and pass<\/i> cancer and your body will be healed and you\u2019ll be saved<\/i>! God!<\/p>\n

Singer:<\/b> (Unintelligible beginning) He\u2019s so wonderful! Yes, he\u2019s wonderful, wonderful. Oh, he\u2019s so wonderful. Oh, wonderful. Oh, bless (Unintelligible word) holiness, he\u2019s so wonderful. Oh, well, (unintelligible). (Jones joins the singing) cures your soul\u2013 (unintelligible) it\u2019s wonderfulness.<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>\u2013(Unintelligible word) (Pause) [Your] Mother\u2019s name is Alice. Alice Finney. (unintelligible). Yes, I\u2019m right. You\u2019ve been having so much difficulty in your head region, pressure.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Particularly on one side, around an eye.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>It\u2019s a good God that\u2019s in this house.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Reacts<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>When you were a child, you had spinal meningitis.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Rheumatic heart disease.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You had four<\/i> operations.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Hmm. Hmm.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Reacts<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You had your gall stones removed.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You had a rectal operation.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Good God!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Reacts, organ begins playing<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You had a doctor, someone for some loved one, Doctor Jacobs<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Diane. My God. Keep your hands clasped. I\u2019m moving<\/i> in here. Moving in here. Moving<\/i> in here, keep your hands clasped. Keep your hands clasped, while I make a note here, \u2018cause some things I don\u2019t tell to anyone. I\u2019ll never tell anything that embarrasses or if anyone\u2013 in any way that would cause anyone to think negative about your health, \u2018cause I only want people to think positive. Keep your hands clasped. That means moving<\/i> them. (Glossolalia) (Pause) Keep your hands clasped, folk. That means moving<\/i> them. We lost a loved one, I see on my left, kidney<\/i> trouble.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Mighty God. Roy? Who\u2019s Roy, your companion?<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>No. It was a half-brother.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I see. Mighty. Let\u2019s keep our hands clasped. You were born in Oklahoma?<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Your father came in 1943 and\u2013<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>\u2013three months later, sent for you.<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Keep our hands clasped, I\u2019m building your faith, \u2018cause I\u2019m saving you from a cancer in the brain. When I wipe it away, it\u2019ll save you from having to waste away for two and a half long years but I\u2013 (calls out) Oh, spirit!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Keep our hands clasped. I\u2019m saving the life of Diane. Did you hear me? Who\u2019s Kay? (Pause)<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Who?<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Who\u2019s Kay?<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Oh, I got a little niece named that.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>That\u2019s beautiful, \u2018cause you were standing there in her stead. We\u2019ve already saved three lives. Spirit, you\u2019re our transmission. You believe in me, don\u2019t you?<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes, I do.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And that belief, that persuasion, you see the (unintelligible), that belief, but you know<\/i> it, I\u2013 I<\/i> am<\/i> God. Spirit. (Glossolalia)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Reacts<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Did you ever lose anything\u2013 use anything. Glovers kind of hair\u2013 to remove dandruff?<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>Yes, I did. Yes, I did.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>See? How God can know. Did you ever tell a soul that?<\/p>\n

Woman 3: <\/b>No.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And it caused cancer, but right now when I clap my hands, there\u2019ll be no pressure in your head. (Jones claps hands together) Spirit!<\/p>\n

(music playing, clapping, cheering, man in background begins singing)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>It\u2019s gone now, isn\u2019t it? It\u2019s gone now. Look at her, shaking her head. It\u2019s gone! Spirit!<\/p>\n

(a man and woman in background begin singing in unison, unintelligible)<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>\u2013That saved their lives, as well as saving our sister. No matter how they\u2019ve (unintelligible) two and a half years to cripple her. I think you better rejoice over someone else\u2019s healing.<\/p>\n

(singing by choir and woman)<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(unintelligible) Here comes our precious sister who passed that horrible cancer. All of the stress is gone now, hasn\u2019t it? Yes.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheering and applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>All gone now. See the cancer that sister that\u2019s carrying the growth? She<\/i> was crippled on the side with a stroke, but I told her the same day I came, she was healed. Now she\u2019s way up too, past her three score and ten, but she\u2019s looking good. She said I never feel tired. She was up all night, working, every<\/i> night, doing things for this cause, traveled all over the world with me, and she never feels tired. She had cancer. She loved good. (unintelligible).<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Aside) Yeah. (Back to mic) It ought to make you feel good to come in such an atmosphere where so many blessings happen every day<\/i>!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheering and applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Calls out) Surely<\/i>, God is able.<\/p>\n

(Organ plays)<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Grisby. Somebody who lived on 25th street. Eleven hundred block, 25th Street. Grisby. Grisby. A shout here and there won\u2019t bother me. Take the spirit high. Who is Grisby? Hands clasped. Go back to the sister. Mighty, go on, shout, rejoice, it won\u2019t bother me. (Glossolalia) Hands clasped. Those of you that are shouting, you don\u2019t have to clasp your hands, just keep on shouting, it don\u2019t bother me. There\u2019s nothing like the rejoicing over socialism, God, whatever.<\/p>\n

(shouting in background, woman\u2019s voice, unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Are you from Georgia, originally?<\/p>\n

(woman\u2019s voice in crowd, unintelligible. Another woman in background screaming, unintelligible words)<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Georgia.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You\u2019re from Georgia, originally?<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Atlanta, Georgia.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>That\u2019s wonderful. Hands clasped. Blessed, blessed. (Pause) You\u2019ve got a son, David.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Lives in Seaside.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Another son, Sam.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Lives in (Unintelligible name)?<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Correct.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You\u2019ve not told me or anyone here anything today, is that correct?<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>You\u2019re right on (Unintelligible under Jones)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Mighty God. There\u2019s a (Unintelligible word, sounds like \u201ccrowd\u201d or \u201ccloud\u201d) in your family.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And you were the eleventh child. And all are gone but you.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Your mother passed in 1937. Abby. She died of heart.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Your father passed in 1923, Sam. He died from a stroke. Hey<\/i>, Spirit God! Mighty God. I\u2019m on the\u2013 I\u2019m on the mainline.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheering and applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I hear<\/i> in your mind, I read<\/i> your mind. That\u2019s what the word of God is, you see. The word of God\u2019s in this room<\/i> today. Hebrews, the fourth chapter in the 12th verse, said the word discerns the thoughts, and I did it on that sister a moment ago, but knows the intents of<\/i> your hearts. It may separate bones and marrow, like sisters, I see three sitting up here that have broken bones, and I took the cast off their body and healed them the same hour, just hours after they were broken. (Passionate) Oh, the God, the God of socialism. I hear you say in your mind, when I mentioned your mother\u2019s name, it flashed before me that you were combing her hair.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And your mother was looking out towards the East, and you\u2013 she asked\u2013 you asked your mother \u2013 isn\u2019t that what you said? \u2013 you asked your mother something.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes, I did.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You were looking at her, and your mother said, I\u2019m looking<\/i> at God\u2019s angels. Oh<\/i>, Spirit!<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes, she did.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Is that what she said, I\u2019m looking at the angels. She was looking at my (Cries out) angel<\/i> spirit.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes, she was.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Good God. (Pause) She had that spirit. She\u2019d loved<\/i> to\u2019ve seen this day. The prophets<\/i> and the kings<\/i> would\u2019ve loved to see this day.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And she said to you, take care. Uh, uh\u2013 I hear her words exactly. Tell Sam to stay with you and help you. (Cries out) Spirit<\/i>! Mighty God.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes, she did.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I want to\u2013 I want you to keep your faith now. You have sensed in your mind that there\u2019s witchcraft<\/i> been practiced upon you.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>That correct?<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>It\u2019s caused you to be crippled<\/i>. You had a tumor<\/i>. You had a growth<\/i>. You\u2019ve been operated.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Keep our hands clasped. Mighty<\/i> God. You\u2019re crippled up<\/i> in your bones.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Spirit<\/i>, lift them up now. You lost your companion, I think back in \u201849<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>With the cancer<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Now, lift up your bones, stretch<\/i> them. Stretch your arms. Stretch your arms. All the way. Come out in the aisle. Move<\/i>! Move in the aisle! I know you\u2019re up in your seventies, but move! Move! Bend over! Bend over! Look, they\u2019re getting better (unintelligible word). Look at her! Bend! Bend! There\u2019s no pain in your body now, is there? No pain. It\u2019s all gone, isn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n

Grisby: <\/b>Yes, it\u2019s all gone.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I have taken cancer from you. I\u2019ve stopped you from a heart attack. Spirit<\/i> of God! (unintelligible word)!<\/p>\n

(woman singing in background)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Do you hear what I\u2019m saying?<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>There\u2019s a man you\u2019ve (unintelligible word) I\u2019ve healed of cancer of the lung, one lung is gone. She\u2019s been operated. But I<\/i> have done the operation. You\u2019ll never die of cancer! You\u2019ll never die of tumors! I\u2019ve<\/i> healed<\/i> you! Spirit<\/i>! God!<\/p>\n

(singing)<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones: \u2013<\/b>call anyone else I lay hands. Now I must lay a hand on that sister that started to leave. I\u2019m\u2013 I used to say\u2013 You know that there\u2019re three black men \u2013 it\u2019s the beginning of terror \u2013 three black men, but Julian Bond got a hold of me with the newspaper clippings and a letter. Congressman Bond saying that no<\/i> churches have helped. Three black men are in Raleigh, South Carolina [North Carolina] facing a death sentence. Now I want a check to go out here today. You understand what I\u2019m saying. I want a check to leave this room today, so that we can help these people. Three<\/i> of them. The newspaper, even the white newspaper said they weren\u2019t guilty. For two hours. Nobody that\u2019s convicted of rape unless they\u2019re black. There\u2019re sixteen people waiting execution, fifteen of them black. One Indian. That\u2019s always the way it is, honey. These three fine young black men picked up a white woman on the road. She was hitchhiking. They gave her a ride. And she wanted to do things. They did it like any foolish young man will do. We don\u2019t believe in rape, we don\u2019t believe in all kinds of foolishness, but people are going to be people out there in the world. And when they finished, there wasn\u2019t a scratch on her, they took her home. He asked, did you take it home? After they done their thing and they let her out a half block away from her home, but the white neighbor saw her. So she told them \u2013 not\u2013 didn\u2019t scream, didn\u2019t holler \u2013 she told \u2018em later it was rape. These young men are facing the gas chamber. But if they get by with this, it\u2019ll be worse then in California tomorrow. They\u2019ve got the same thing there, rapists can be executed. All over the states, they\u2019ve said they\u2019ve done away with uh, the capital punishment, done away with electric chairs and gas chambers and hangman\u2019s nooses, but they can still hang people on rape, killing a police officer and a whole lot of other things. I think I\u2019m doing something about this, even if our promised land, even if I work with heavy\u2013 Are we going to do something about this, so that we can make a sizeable contribution today? They called<\/i> on us, because not one<\/i> church, not one civil rights group, not one<\/i> would help. Now that\u2019s too bad. Said, I understand the many reports here in Atlanta, in Montgomery area, that you<\/i> and you alone helped political prisoners, as a church. And you know it\u2019s true, these are political prisoners, being held there by the color of their skin. Only those cases are prosecuted for rape or any other crime, whether ignorant, or black, or poor. There were three thousand some rapes charges this year in the Bay region of California, there was three thousand six hundred charges, arrests made for rape. But only 600 of them were prosecuted by the district attorney, but only 200 of them were convicted, and a hundred and ninety of those, hundred eighty seven of those 200 were black. (Pause) See what I\u2019m saying?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Yeah.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>They let everybody go through all the time, but a black person, just one woman\u2019s charge, and they\u2019re facing the gas chamber. We just got a stay of execution, I\u2019ve been working on it. You\u2019ll be reading about it in the newspaper. We got a\u2013 a stay of execution, so that they\u2013 (Unintelligible word)\u2013 they would\u2019ve already been dead, they would\u2019ve died on the tenth. My friends, we\u2019ve got to move. So in this room I\u2019m going to say quickly, this is the last there\u2019ll be mention of any money today, is there anyone here that would give us (Tape edit) to be put in that gas chamber? There\u2019s sixteen more, waiting. One of them Indian. Fifteen blacks. That\u2019s who gets to go to gas chambers. No one\u2019s ever had fifty thousand dollars has ever been convicted or executed\u2013<\/p>\n

Voice in congregation<\/b>: That\u2019s right!<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>\u2013for a crime. Now is that fair?<\/p>\n

Scattered voices in congregation: <\/b>No!<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>America had better change this system through our nonviolent<\/i> technology, our nonviolent<\/i> administration, or people are going to rise up in the streets.<\/p>\n

Scattered voices in congregation: <\/b>That\u2019s right!<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>(Pause) Now that was a fine response. (Calls out) America had better change the system and listen to us who want to share the wealth through nonviolent means, or there\u2019ll be a rising up in the streets!<\/p>\n

Scattered voices in congregation: <\/b>Oh, yeah!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>You bet they will. They want to stop all the kidnapping and so forth and the violence, and there\u2019ll be more of it, more of it, more of it, more of it. Every (Unintelligible word) will be safe in their homes. Then share the wealth. Make the laws just. Give the same kind of legal counsel provided by the government so that the poor man will (Unintelligible word) be able to afford as much of a good lawyer as the Mafia<\/i> can or some rich hoodlum<\/i> or some cheap politician downtown. We\u2019re tired<\/i> of our sons and daughters being robbed<\/i> of justice!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Response<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>All right, I\u2019ve said enough. Who will give? Five hun\u2013 (Tape edit) \u2013have children, waiting to die. Three men to die in the gas chambers, and even the newspaper said they\u2019re not guilty. The city\u2019s got over fifty percent black, but yet, all the white jury except one Uncle Tom. You\u2019re supposed to be given a trial by your equals<\/i>. You\u2019re supposed to be given equal representation, a jury trial of your peers. If he was black, he should have at least<\/i> seven. At least<\/i> seven or six black people. But whites<\/i> sentenced him in two hours, three men to die. Are you going to do something about this? If you don\u2019t, I\u2019ll leave tonight and raise money and do it myself.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Now Redwood Valley, San Francisco, we haven\u2019t only got about four hundred dollars, that\u2019s cheap. I said that\u2019s cheap<\/i>. That man\u2019s got a good chury\u2013 jury trial. When they had Brother (Unintelligible name, sounds like \u201cChris Spring\u201d), it took us thirty seven thousand. And we can\u2019t do that for everyone, but my God, three black brothers are a part of you<\/i>, because what happens to them, it\u2019ll be you<\/i> next, if they get by with this dastardly deed, if they get by with this terrible act<\/i>, they\u2019ll come for you<\/i> next time.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Responds<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Even though we\u2019re shaking the dust, we\u2019re still<\/i> in America and we\u2019re sit\u2013 I\u2013 (Calms) assume responsible to see that justice, while we\u2019re here, to the best of our ability. Everyone that\u2019;; raise four hundred\u2013 (Tape edit) Los Angeles. You\u2019ve got over half of Los Angeles up in Redwood Valley now, Redwood Valley is<\/i> almost Los Angeles, in many ways. There\u2019s San Francisco. And hardly anything come out of Redwood Valley, we just took over Redwood Valley. (laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And it\u2019s a beautiful b\u2013 beautiful family that took it over. Yes, dear? (Tape edit) \u2013(unintelligible) to see a family. They will all<\/i> feel the burdens of one another. Those three can be your sons. They just\u2013 Julian Bond said \u201cPastor Jones, I am confident<\/i> that they are innocent. Please, we need your desperate<\/i> support if we are to save the lives of these three innocent men.\u201d Congressman Julian Bond, in [Georgia] House of Representatives. He\u2019s a Congressman US, and he got into it, \u2018cause he couldn\u2019t get any preacher. Their preachers are taking anniversaries. We don\u2019t have that nonsense. Or birthdays. Or pastors\u2019 wives teas. They\u2019re too busy doing something like that instead of helping the poor. Aren\u2019t you glad you\u2019re in a church that gives the money for right things?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Yes. (Pause) Men are going to die<\/i>, and the congressman didn\u2019t know who<\/i> else to get a hold of but us. (Pause) There\u2019s no time. Any moment they can make another appointed date. All I really tried to do is get five\u2013 five days, but they set the execution for Friday. (Pause) They\u2019re not going to set it for Friday, because I\u2019ve only begun to fight.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Come on. Thank you dear, but if you don\u2019t implement it, their blood will be on your<\/i> hands. Fifty. (tape edit) You hold their lives in your hand. You hold their lives. They got nothing but a de\u2013 public defender, up till now. You know what public defenders are, they\u2019re the kiss<\/i> of death. They\u2019ll get you to plea bargain just to get\u2013 so they won\u2019t have to work. They say plead<\/i> guilty to a less charge and you\u2019ll get off, or you\u2019ll get so and so a reduction of sentence. They told George Jackson that, and he\u2019s now dead. He got life<\/i>, when they promised him one year. How many\u2019ve known someone where DA\u2013 public defenders told to plead for something, and it\u2019ll be easy on you. How many know someone? And it didn\u2019t turn out that way. The average public defender gives five<\/i> minutes to a case. And you say we\u2019ve got a free<\/i> society? You say that every man\u2019s equal before the law? (Intense) It\u2019s a damn, dirty, rotten, filthy lie<\/i>!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Getting so tired of these rotten politicians. But we better not get too more\u2013 much tired. They better let us go on, build the promised land, \u2018cause we\u2019re dangerous.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>We\u2019re dangerous. Very<\/i> dangerous.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Beautiful, thank you. Who will mail 25 (tape edit) If you can get a rally, it\u2019ll take \u2018em some way of getting a rally in some of these deadbeat churches, maybe have a musical. I\u2013 I can\u2019t hardly stand the dumb singing, but we even might do that with a bunch of \u2018em to take the proceeds to help these brothers out of jail. And out of this terrible death sentence. See if these churches will put their money<\/i> where their mouth<\/i> is. Hmm? See if they can build up something in the newspapers. They\u2019re both a black\u2013 Sun-Reporter.<\/i> I know Dr. [Carlton] Goodlett\u2019s a good friend of ours who owns The Sun Reporter<\/i> and I know his sister here who called me the Messiah that owns the Herald<\/i>, the\u2013 the black paper here<\/i>, she will do something, so let\u2019s see if we can get it written up. Something that\u2019ll appeal<\/i> and show what we\u2019ve already<\/i> done and make \u2018em feel guilty<\/i>. There ain\u2019t nothing like these different churches stirred up more than for Jones to do something, and we don\u2019t care if they give more than us, \u2018cause everything they give, we\u2019ll match it and we\u2019ll outdo \u2018em all, won\u2019t we?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheering, applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>But I wouldn\u2019t mind at all if they did more than we. You\u2019ll be thrilled if they would. And we just might cause it by that ugly spirit of competition that\u2019s in them to do<\/i> something, if we got a little bit\u2013 we normally don\u2019t publicize<\/i> anything, but I want this<\/i> publicized. Let\u2019s think about doing it in the best way, \u2018cause those three black brothers are not going to die for this. If we set our minds to this, they will not<\/i>!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>It\u2019s gonna have to be nationalized, \u2018cause our\u2013 we got so many Uncle Toms and Aunt Janes, listening to the white man\u2019s religion, talking about going to heaven. I imagine some old foolish people setting right here saying, \u201cThey\u2019re gonna die and be with Jesus.\u201d You ain\u2019t seen Jesus until you\u2019re here and I\u2019m on earth, and I\u2019ve got flesh and I got bones. And if you want \u2018em to be with Jesus, get \u2018em out of jail!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Bless your heart. Who else will give twenty? Like that. (Tape edit) And give me twenty dollars. Ninety-four years young. Yes, Sister Slayton. It\u2019s a awful thing to hang over their head. Get them that new trial that they need and appeal. Say, they can\u2019t get it, but yes, they can get it. By God, we can<\/i> get it. It\u2019s moved the mountains before<\/i>, and we can move \u2018em again!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Twenty. (Tape edit) \u2013and get a picture that you can wear for security reasons, with your name. You ought to always<\/i> have your name tag, right?<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation: <\/b>Right!<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>And how many have turned a picture into me? When I meditate for you, I can do you a lot more good if I can look at your picture. I asked it some many weeks ago and some of you still haven\u2019t gotten around to doing it. (Pause) \u2018Cause it helps me\u2013 Thank you, Sister Sneed. Sixteen (Tape edit) an officer in the\u2013 in the army. One of them has a\u2013 a business. One of them is a college student. Ridiculous<\/i>, \u2018cause some white whore, just \u2018cause she wants to save her dirty name.<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation<\/b>: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>I said it\u2019s ridiculous<\/i>!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Now you don\u2019t have to ask whether they\u2019re guilty or not. You don\u2019t rape<\/i> somebody, then drive them home, and they get out without even the neighbor\u2019s, the testimony was, they get out without a scratch<\/i> on them or their hair<\/i> mussed. You don\u2019t do<\/i> that, honey, and rape anybody.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Through a\u2013 Through a terrible accident no human could have gone through. (unintelligible sentence). It\u2019s remarkable, what we\u2019ve been brought through. (unintelligible). How many will give\u2013 (Tape edit) I would not insult him for something less than a thousand dollars. Say, he\u2019s getting votes. He\u2019s got no votes in South Carolina. He\u2019s a\u2013 he\u2019s in Georgia. He\u2019s a congressman from Georgia<\/i>. He got no votes in Carolina. And he\u2019s sure not going to be running for president yet, you know. So he\u2019s not trying to get to be president. So there\u2019re a few<\/i> of us that do have some good feelings, like that Mayor [Richard] Hatcher in Gary [Indiana], and he said that the black nation\u2019s about to be destroyed. Julian Bond has said the same thing, and I\u2019m glad somebody told him about us. It\u2019s time<\/i> good folk got together.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Who else will give ten? (Tape edit) Brandy and extra food that\u2019s killing you. Getting so fat you can\u2019t hardly get it in their corset<\/i> anymore or the man\u2019s girdle. Ten. (Tape edit) \u2013has extra weight but she\u2013 she has to work herself hard. Giving you free service, but she wants to do that to be prepared to serve you. We all<\/i> ought to think of that. Shouldn\u2019t we? I\u2019d love<\/i> to eat. But I know if I eat too much, I won\u2019t be serving you like I ought to. I once weighed two hundred and twenty some pounds. And I weigh a hundred and eighty now \u2013 a hundred and eighty three \u2013 and I\u2019m not satisfied. I want to get down<\/i> to a hundred and sixty five. I don\u2019t want to live. I want to live because you<\/i> live here. Because here you stand upon my shoulders that is the foundation of a new creation!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Ten. (unintelligible aside, back to mic). Ernestine Blair donating a bronze that is valued at a large amount of money. We\u2019ll seek uh, two hundred dollars and she going to donate that to raise for these sons. Beautiful.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Yes. (Clears throat) Thank you. Thank you. Who else will give\u2013 (tape edit) \u2013in death row, waiting on the gas pedal. Choking gas, coming out. The young life of youth. Some of you wouldn\u2019t mind so much, who would know the cause of freedom, but how would you mind it for your son? You wouldn\u2019t like it very well. How many\u2019ll give five extra (tape edit) \u2013for the children\u2019s homes and the senior residences? And the college kids that we\u2019re educating. Hundred of them in school. I think that would touch you. But if three men in a gas chamber don\u2019t touch you, you won\u2019t going to be touched. Isn\u2019t that true? Three. I\u2019ve asked (tape edit) \u2013certainly going to be gotten if I have to do it one thing or another. Let me see. (Pause) Jessie Watson, Vernon Brown and Bobby Hines. Terrible, terrible. Make the check out (Pause) to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Southern Poverty Law Center. Someone taking that down? Get it started. It\u2019s more than a thousand, we\u2019ll be blessed, but it isn\u2019t, I can tell that. It\u2019s going to be a thousand. I know the money, just as I know your thoughts. I\u2019ve told three people their thoughts today. Why don\u2019t you think that I know your money? I know what you\u2019re holding back, I know what you\u2019re blessed with. (Pause) Two<\/i> dollars\u2013 (tape edit) \u2013to nice young men. They don\u2019t look like rapists. They\u2019re just young men wanting to try to take advantage of somebody\u2019s offering somethin\u2019 free. Because they\u2019ve been held down, naturally when a white woman will offer something free, they\u2019re going to fall prey to it. Your son would too. And Julian Bond\u2019s not one to champion causes, but he said, I can assure<\/i> you, Pastor Jones, that we desperately<\/i> need your support, and we will be saving the lives of three<\/i> innocent men. That\u2019s his exact words. He won\u2019t say a thing like that, unless he knows what he\u2019s talking about. \u2018Cause he\u2019s conservative, politicians can do\u2013 try to stay in office. How many will give one\u2013 (tape edit) We\u2019ve seen blindness cured, we\u2019ve seen crippling, a number of nurses were sent out for people that\u2013 one of the sisters came up and hugged me, that\u2019s not even called out. She was an indirect revelation. But it happens all through the service. Peoples (Calls out) (unintelligible word) or say God, when I think of the goodness of Father?<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation: <\/b>No!<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>Particularly what he does for the oppressed. These healings are marvelous and they\u2019re real. But what he does to set people free from jails and oppression, terrible ghettos, horrible housing, no food. He saved people here that were hungry. Some of the older people we have in our senior homes were hungry<\/i> when they came to us. That\u2019s sad to see some older black sister, or a brother that\u2019s worked uh, all the days of their life, going to bed hungry every night. You say there\u2019s no hunger in America? Walter Cronkite says there\u2019s eight million to ten million youngsters in America that\u2019re going to bed hungry, that are starving, slowly, in America<\/i>. How many will give one dollar? (tape edit) Sixteen, these (unintelligible word) youngsters here were caught<\/i> and apprehended and found and murdered in a few hours. The law also said to me if sixteen<\/i> don\u2019t give generously, sixteen of you will have your own loved ones standing before an assistant public defender. Not the<\/i> defender, the assistant. You heard what I said. How many will give me one\u2013 (tape edit) \u2013so bad, the cars won\u2019t run, I won\u2019t buy anything. Never bought a pair of new shoes, won\u2019t own a car and got busses, \u2018cause we need busses to get people to freedom.<\/p>\n

End of tape<\/b><\/p>\n

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