{"id":27358,"date":"2013-06-16T00:19:37","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:19:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27358"},"modified":"2023-06-16T17:26:57","modified_gmt":"2023-06-17T00:26:57","slug":"q182","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27358","title":{"rendered":"Q182 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><strong>Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<p>To return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here.<\/a> Listen to MP3 (<a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q182_Part1.mp3\">Pt. 1<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q182_Part2.mp3\">Pt. 2<\/a>).<br \/>\nTo read the Tape Summary, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28063\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Part 1: Radio broadcast &#8211; two tapes overlap, only more intelligible one transcribed<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones: <\/strong>(opening phrase unintelligible) \u2014and I want to read the following letter, (unintelligible word) blasphemy. One woman who blasphemy\u2014\u00a0blaspheme against me now has to undergo the most <i>grueling<\/i> kind of surgery. So it\u2019s <i>blasphemy<\/i> to talk about leaving till our people are here. I have <i>warned<\/i> you and I\u2019ll warn you no more. Just a note, Dear Jim, to ask you to reconsider this minor request, and give it your most serious consideration. (Radio break-up) my problem, are the only things that got dealt with. No one has reached the cause. So there you (unintelligible phrase) are still in the same state (unintelligible phrase). You might not be in the same state if you would think of starving children and\u2014 (Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p>Colic\u2014\u00a0colonic\u2014 c-o-l-o-n-i-c (unintelligible phrase), people have used (unintelligible phrase), according to this writer, I don\u2019t know (unintelligible phrase). I\u2019m giving these matters consideration, and then I shall uh\u2014 just play the news now, play the news. Much love. (unintelligible parting)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Part 2: Strong tape turns off, secondary tape transcribed<br \/>\n<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>Jones: <\/strong>\u2014USA, undoubt\u2014 undan\u2014 undoubted cloud seeding, according to Russian emba\u2014 ambassador, they\u2019re trying to destroy our crops, but <i>that<\/i> won\u2019t destroy us. But that\u2019s the way they <i>work<\/i>. That\u2019s their operation. But snakes come to this high point. We are the highest point. (Unintelligible aside off mike) We are the highest point in this region around, and so it\u2019s very, very important that <i>you<\/i> realize that\u2014 that <i>nothing<\/i> we can do\u2014 We\u2019ve <i>never<\/i> had a snake bite. Think on the miracles of it. Think on the miracles of Fairy Norwood not losing her foot, uh, she should have lost it, she\u2019s laying down there with uh, great recovery. <i>Think<\/i> of all the miracles that have happened. Ava Ingram this week with a temperature of one hundred and six <i>plus<\/i>. You don\u2019t come out of a hundred and six plus, without brain damage. Yet Ava has no brain damage. Hire\u2014 And her mother\u2019s plea, she caught my heart, I\u2014 just walk me through when I was trying to slip\u2014\u00a0asleep in the chair, and I meditated, and then I went of course and saw Ava, and touched her. But the <i>point<\/i> is, you are not to take my words, (unintelligible phrase \u2014 &#8220;unwisely now?&#8221; &#8220;I want to say now?&#8221;)\u2014 you don\u2019t know what to say to guests. Every supervisor, I\u2019m holding you responsible. If someone in your home, your apartment or dormitory, makes a mistake\u2014 or cottage, then I\u2019m holding the supervisor responsible, because <i>you<\/i> ought to <i>know<\/i> that they are to be indoctrinated in what to say, enlightened as to what they should say. Fi\u2014 Test them. Test them right now. Test them before they go to sleep. They\u2019re either to be in bed asleep now, watching the movie \u2014\u00a0a funny movie it is, with two great actors in it, uh\u2014 <i>Man Friday<\/i> \u2014 or under the\u2014 you should be\u2014 I\u2019m giving you (unintelligible phrase) because I feel that\u2014 you know that we need every day to study Russian, we need to study it twice as much. (unintelligible aside away from mike). Stand by for questions.<\/p>\n<p><b>Part 3<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones: <\/strong>You know that. You know that fact, that you know the only way you can change that is to distribute <i>all<\/i> the wealth, and take it out of the hands of the big bankers and the rich that hold it in the safe deposit vaults, and piled up in all sorts of palatial estates, the summer resorts. That money\u2019s got to be <i>distributed<\/i> across the world \u2014 that\u2019s socialism \u2014\u00a0so that people won\u2019t be starving to death. So uh\u2014 <i>don\u2019t<\/i> give me no di\u2014 business whether he\u2019s not a socialist, or he\u2019s not a socialist, uh, if there was only <i>one<\/i> socialist here, that ought to be you. It\u2019s your responsibility. So I don\u2019t want to hear any more of that talk, and I do mean that seriously. And I wish that had been taped. I hope it has. I didn\u2019t look whether it has been, but I hope that it is taken down and <i>seriously<\/i> put on the <i>blackboard<\/i> and looked at for three or four days, if Teresa [King] can do that. Stand by. (tape edit)<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m going to repeat this again, because I want it taped. There is nothing more sickening and more excuse-making and CYA, cover your ass, than to say, &#8220;She\u2019s no socialism\u2014\u00a0socialist,&#8221; or &#8220;He\u2019s no socialist, so he not going to criticize me. He\u2019s got faults.&#8221; That is <i>sick<\/i>. That makes me so sick, I want to vomit. <i>You<\/i> know, alone, that\u2014 that two out of three babies going to bed in\u2014 hungry, starving, every night. If <i>nobody<\/i> was a communist, it\u2019s your duty to be one, because of that fact, because <i>you know<\/i> there\u2019s only one thing\u2019s going to stop this terrible fact that two out of three babies\u2014 can you imagine, two out of three of our babies here going to bed hungry. It is <i>you<\/i> (Pause) you, you, you, you, <i>your<\/i> responsibility to see that socialism comes <i>about<\/i>, not based on how many others fail. Take criticism from whomever. As Mao [Chinese communist leader Mao Tse Tung] said, and Lenin [Vladimir Lenin, leader of the Russian revolution] said, (unintelligible word), the worst enemies will give you the best criticism. They may be imperfect as the devil, they may be more imperfect than you. That has nothing to do with it. They\u2019ll see you clearly. <i>Every<\/i> time someone see you more sharply through their eyes than you see yourself through your own.<\/p>\n<p>Now I don\u2019t care\u2014\u00a0Don\u2019t say any more about <i>these<\/i> people here, I don\u2019t want to hear anymore, it\u2019ll be a Public Service offense. I don\u2019t want talk, hear\u2014 I don\u2019t want to go someplace or see these people, I don\u2019t want to go to Africa or someplace else, to USSR with <i>these<\/i> people. You are acting like you are a saint, and you\u2019re <i>not<\/i>. You\u2019ve got just as much fault as anybody here. And don\u2019t talk about &#8220;these people.&#8221; There are no braver people on the world than on that terrible awesome seven day siege in September, when we were surrounded. Every man, woman and child and seniors, sit in the rain\u2014 (tape repeat) sit in the rain, laid down, ready for the final attack to come on us, which we expected any mo\u2014 moment, to do\u2014 do away with us. That was a <i>brave<\/i> people. I don\u2019t want to hear any more of that <i>shit<\/i> talk about you\u2019re not going to take any criticism from this person, don\u2019t\u2014\u00a0I won\u2019t hear it from this person. You\u2019ll hear it from <i>wherever<\/i> it comes, and be grateful, because that\u2019s the Maoist teaching, and if they can do it in China, when their foreign policy\u2019s so bad, they <i>still<\/i> have self-criticism and group criticism. Unfortunately, not enough about their foreign policy. But in the Soviet Union, they have it. We have a <i>duty<\/i> to analyze ourselves and criticize ourselves, and then to criticis\u2014 criticize our fellow comrade. Nobody cares whether you\u2014 you think they\u2019re perfect or not, whether they\u2019re bad or good. You take what they got to say, because <i>always<\/i> they\u2019ll have something to offer you. And that\u2019s what I\u2019m expecting out of everybody in this community. To be socialist. Because as I said, don\u2019t say, uh, I\u2014\u00a0I have faith in Father. That\u2019s not good enough. If there\u2019s one socialist, then you are responsible to be good. If you got (unintelligible phrase) that Father\u2019s a good socialist, which he is, the best in the world, then <i>you<\/i> should be a good socialist. And you should listen to every other cotton-picker, no matter what kind of life they\u2019re living, whether they\u2019re good or bad. You should listen to their (Pause) thing\u2014 the things they point out so you will be a <i>better<\/i> socialist. <i>Don\u2019t<\/i> judge yourself by the low-level of some people who won\u2019t ever come through. Judge yourself by the standards of the highest. Jim Jones, Victor Jara, Paul Robeson. Judge your standards by Patrice Lumumba [assassinated premier of Republic of the Congo] and Dr. Allende [Salvador Allende, assassinated president of Chile], who came out of his presidential headquarters and refused to surrender with a ma\u2014 submachine gun, and never fired a gun in his life, and made them kill him, \u2018cause he would not surrender to a military fascist takeover and the CIA. Quit looking for the lowest around here to judge yourself by. Look to the highest. I\u2019m tired of it, and I won\u2019t let it get by anymore, because I love you, and I want you\u2014 the <i>best<\/i> out of you. We have great days ahead of us, and great opportunities, if we keep the faith. Thank you so much. Much love.<\/p>\n<p>(Unintelligible burst of conversation)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Part 4:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones: <\/strong>Monday news. The Pugwash movement have become an important factor in the struggle against a nuclear threat. Soviet nuclear scientist Moisei, M-O-I-S-E-I, Markov, M-A-R-K-O-V, told the Pugwash, P-U-G-W-A-S-H, Conference meeting in Varna, that the conference reiterated or restated its opposition to production and deployment of the horrible capitalist American <a href=\"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=123052\">neutron bomb. Neutron \u2014\u00a0remember \u2014 destroys people, no property. Typical for capitalist.<\/a> Attended by 140 leading scientists from 40 countries, the conference recognized that peaceful d\u00e9tente coexistence was a <i>key<\/i> to the solution of <i>all<\/i> the pressing problems of our times. It said that it must be made <i>permanent<\/i> and complimented by international cooperation in the economic, scientific and cultural fields. Attempts to split the movement over the human rights issue failed. The refusal of some American scientists to cooperate with Soviet colleagues and with the Pugwash movement has been seen to be a clear mistake, which must be rectified for the sake of world peace, if USA has any desire for peace and to avoid the nuclear hell that\u2019s going to brought about, unless she does. The conference was devoted mainly to global aspects of disarmament and international security. There was general agreement that disarmament was the most pressing need of the <i>world<\/i> today, and the surest guarantee of a peaceful future for mankind. Indeed, anybody with their right mind would know that, it would seem to me. That would be logical, that anyone would see that world peace is the most important de\u2014 and pressing demand upon us all. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Other, October 9, Monday news. The United Nations General Assembly, there is a large-scale support for the Soviet peace initi\u2014\u00a0initiatives, entirely the balance of nations have poured towards\u2014 I mean poured directly towards the Soviet Union. (unintelligible word) The United Nations is nothing more than a <i>sham<\/i> anymore, in the\u2014\u00a0the Security Council that the US insisted be set up. You have three major capitalist countries the power to veto any major action, so the United Nations is rightfully in New York, because that\u2019s who it belongs to. It belongs to Washington. Australia\u2019s foreign secretary spoke out for a speedy conclusion of the Soviet-American agreements on limiting strategic offensive arms. He also expressed the importance of a\u2014 concluding a treaty abanding [abandoning] (Pause, stumbles over words) completely and universally nuclear arms. And he greatly casti\u2014 chastised USA for their slothfulness in this direction, that is, the Australian for\u2014\u00a0foreign minister.<\/p>\n<p>The foreign minister of democratic Yemen stressed the need of eliminating the hotbed of tensions in the Middle East. He also criticized attempts of the United States to substitute a comprehensive settlement in the region with a separate sell-out deal from Camp David between Egypt and Israel.<\/p>\n<p>Angola\u2019s foreign minister demanded <i>effective<\/i> measures to implement, that is, to carry through, the rights of the people of Zimbabwe and Namibia to self-determination and independence. It seems that the black nations surrounding South Africa and Rhodesia will not allow United Nations to be used by USA as a tool to maintain the old order.<\/p>\n<p>It was relatively calm in Beirut, once a beautiful capital. Today, after several days of fierce shooting, the rightist\u2014 the Phalangist Christian fascist want the Arab peace-keeping mo\u2014 force to withdraw from the country, (Pause) and also seek to partition uh, Lebanon. Yesterday the command of the Arab peace-keeping force ordered his troops to <i>cease<\/i> fire and not respond to provocations. This was done in accordance of the call from the president of Lebanon [Elias Sarkis] and the president of Syria [Hafez al-Assad], who is now conducting talks (Pause) in Dis\u2014 Damascus. The United Nations Security Council has also called for a cease-fire in Lebanon in order to restore peace and national reconciliation. The ally of the Soviet Union, Syria, has done more to protect the sovereignty of Lebanon than any other nation. Lebanon would have been run over by Zionist Israel expansionist forces, had it not been for Syria stepping in and resisting.<\/p>\n<p>At the request of the African countries in New York, New York, Security Council committee put sanctions against Rhodesia, held an urgent meeting, its participants stating that the sanctions of the American administration of [U.S. President Jimmy] Carter\u2019s so-called human rights policy to permit Ian Smith to enter the United States is a <i>crude<\/i> violation of the United Nations\u2019 decision, and his own human rights proclamations banning all moral \u2014 as is supposed to be, his proclamation he signed \u2014 banning all moral and in\u2014\u00a0and material support for the racist white Rhodesian regime. But why does Carter or the multi-national corporations hesitate to be the hypocrite. That\u2019s why none of you should trust them. They don\u2019t ever stand up for principle, and will always do the thing that makes them the dollar, spend <i>our<\/i> tax dollar, which causes such pain to my heart, and should to yours, out on the war-making field of destroying babies all over the world. Addressing the meeting, Soviet representatives said that the arrival of Smith in the United States only confirms the fact, his regime has the support of those forces in the United States which want to prevent the people of Zimbabwe under the Patriotic Front of Joshua N. Nkomo and Robert Mugabe from having <i>real<\/i> self-determination. One of the leaders of the Zimbabwean Patriotic Front, Josh N. Nkomo, has reaffirmed\u2014 he has reaffirmed determination (Pause) to continue the armed struggle against the Smith racist regime for real independence. Commentary said over BBC that USA\u2019s hypocritical stand has turned in moral way from a nationalist position to one of Marxist-Leninist, meaning that both he and uh, his ally R\u2014Robert Mugabe, are Marxist-Leninists. Speaking in Zambia, Nkomo said, the front will not take part in the so-called all-party conference (Pause) on Rhodesia, which would be attended by Smith and his African puppets. Nkomo accused Britain of violating UN economic sanctions and adding to the racist regime mi\u2014 militarily and economically. US has always said for years they were against Rhodesia, but when Rhodesia started to fall to the blacks, and Nam\u2014 Namibia, USA run in with <i>billions<\/i> of dollars, <i>literally<\/i> billions of dollars from corporations, and millions of <i>your<\/i> tax dollars, to save those concentration camp regime governments in Namibia, Union of South Africa and in Rhodesia. Nam\u2014 Namibia was <i>promised<\/i> their freedom this year, but the words of the USA means nothing.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t understand how any of you could consider to want to go back to that <i>vomit<\/i>. You ought to consider <i>anything<\/i> but\u2014 but go back and become a part of a murderer, because <i>you<\/i> are a murderer when you assist a murderer, and if you are paying taxes, buying food, you pay taxes on anything you do there, even a bus ride or pele\u2014 telephone call, (unintelligible word) buying a piece of clothing, or renting a home, or buying one, <i>you<\/i> are paying taxes that helps a murderer. You should feel ashamed of yourself, if you feel no guilt this morning. That\u2019s my opinion. Anyway, the Namibian National C\u2014\u00a0Conference (Pause) on Justice has called on the people of the countries of\u2014 occupied by South Africa to come out against the neo-cono\u2014 colonialist plans of the Pretorian fascist regime, Union of South Africa, upheld by US capital, in regard to elections. (Pause) The statement of the organization has been circulated widely, and says they will <i>not<\/i> take part in the elections against\u2014 organized by the occupa\u2014\u00a0occupation forces in Namibia. They call on the other nations to take urgent measures to <i>undermine<\/i> the course of (Pause) the elections. Another big move with the Africans in Namibia. SWAMPO [SWAPO] has also\u2014 Southwest African Peoples Organization has <i>also<\/i> declared that it will be boycotting the election campaign that has called for stepping up the armed struggle against the racist regime. It\u2019s bound to be that there\u2019ll be a confrontation that\u2019ll bring about nuclear war over Africa, because USA is on the side of those white oppressors and are determined to stay so, and the Soviet Union, the major party next to USA,\u00a0is equally committed to the liberation forces of black Africa. So there\u2019s no way it can be avoided.<\/p>\n<p>It has been announced in Moscow that the U.S. Secretary of State Cyrus Vance will come to Moscow \u2014 Moskva, as we would say in Russian \u2014\u00a0and continue talks on limiting strategic arms. The meeting will be on the twenty-second and twenty-third of this month. The Soviet national Pravda says that, while members of the socialist economic community\u2014 (Pause) while members of the\u2014\u00a0(Pause) of the uh, socialist economic community are increasing assistance to the developing countries \u2014 I had to sign something there for a moment, and my mind got momentarily distracted, having been up all night, as is quite customary around here, several nights, in fact \u2014\u00a0the West remains indifferent to their needs. This is the conclusion the paper draws after comparing the results of the meeting of the organization executive committee and the session of the International Monetary Fund, for the International Bank of Reconstruction and Development in Washington, the leading bodies of the two organizations held their meeting recently. Members of the socialist economic community\u2014 economic community have responded to the request of Ethiopia, and meanwhile, measures of developing economic cooperation with the country\u2014 (stumbles over words) also they informed each other of the helping of Angola in developing agriculture, that is, Ethiopia and the\u2014\u00a0the Soviet Union.<\/p>\n<p>By the way, a bit of interesting news to lessen the uh, light\u2014 to make you a little lighter side of the news, a uh, Floridian young man decided he was going to do something about stopping the destruction of whales, and these very brilliant animals that are almost like man, <i>dolphins<\/i>. And so he developed him a submarine and fully equipped it, and unfortunately, due to a fink neighborhood\u2014 neighbor, who called in and\u2014 (unintelligible word) <i>Washington Post<\/i> called him just that, a fink uh, and a worse word than that, uh, uh, another word which I cannot recall what the radio said. It was a word that I had commonly not used for fink. But\u2014\u00a0a &#8220;snitch,&#8221; they called him. &#8220;Snitch.&#8221; They\u2014\u00a0He\u2014\u00a0They told on his campaign. He was going to go under the hulls of two big whale boats and\u2014 and these lovely dolphins that are so gentle, under their uh, boat capturing them, one from Japan and one from Chile, and he was going to blow them to hell by a submarine and get away, after placing the bombs. Too bad he did not succeed.<\/p>\n<p>The participants of the Washington meeting, on the other hand, only tried to corrupt the bitter competition between them and noth\u2014 and no\u2014\u00a0nothing at all was said about helping third world countries. Speaking at the session, the minister of Cameroon accused them of showing <i>no<\/i> concern for the needs of the young developing nations. His call for assistance had\u2014\u00a0said Pravda, the great voice in the Soviet Union (Pause) fell on deaf ears.<\/p>\n<p>The Kampuchea, or formerly known Cambodian troops, which were once communist and then overthrown by the Khmer Rouge nationalist, have again tried to cross into the territory of Vietnam, which is a supportive, strong ally of the Soviet Union, the avant garde of liberation. Anyway, they threw them back, the Viet army, the Vietnamese army defeated their aggression and drove them back some twenty miles.<\/p>\n<p>I might say sadly, that the young man who <i>tried<\/i> to blow up the ships, and he never got out, because the neighbor\u2014\u00a0the good trusting neighborhood, white neighborhood that he was in, certainly they\u2014\u00a0you mustn\u2019t do anything that\u2019s out of step, they told on him, he is going to face ten to twenty years, so we might take\u2014\u00a0find out who he is and send him some\u2014\u00a0oh, I don\u2019t know, some encouragement, it seemed a horrible sentence to put on a young man who was just trying\u2014 he said his sa\u2014\u00a0sadness was, he said, I was only giving the whale mother another chance and the dolphin mother an\u2014\u00a0a chance to give at least another 4000 calves before they\u2019re murdered. They might have\u2014\u00a0He said there\u2019s going to be an extinction of both of these species, and they\u2019re so close to man, as you know.<\/p>\n<p>The sale of nearly 30,000 pounds of copper to China has been announced by the Ministry of Mining in Industry of Chile. Another blunder of China\u2019s foreign policy, supporting fascist regimes. He said that the\u2014 the agreement signed by the two countries showed their intention to broaden cooperation in every way. The Chinese leadership are ec\u2014 recognized [Augusto] Pinochet regime immediately after the military coup in 1973, and the ambassador of the present government of Salvador Allende was immediately sent out of Peking. Since then, China has given Chile large scale military assistance and loans and credits in the sum of hundreds of millions of dollars. It has also been announced in Santiago, the capital of Chile, that Chile\u2019s foreign minister leaves for an official visit to Peking next Friday. They will hold talks on strengthening cooperation between the two countries. In spite of the beauty of China, what it\u2019s done domestically, getting rid of the rats, the flies, and their lovely communes, that they live without the monetary system, and their cooperative uh, communities that have been based upon the mar\u2014 the Lenin ideas, and the Soviet Union\u2019s idea, <i>no one<\/i> can justify their reverse dis\u2014 discrimination. Much of their anxiety that they\u2019ve had over the white man through the Boxer Rebellion and the Opium Wars, but <i>nothing<\/i> justifies this kind of uh, inexcusable behavior. That\u2019s why we\u2019re pro-Soviet. That\u2019s why we stand by the Soviet Union as the avant-garde, because this is a <i>hellish<\/i> thing to do, to support one of the most brutal fascist regimes, who has tortured <i>dark<\/i> members\u2014 the black members of its population, presently more than any other color on up to how white your skin determines your rank in Chilean society.<\/p>\n<p>The Israeli Cabinet has appointed Foreign Minister Moise Dayan, known for his neo-fascism, as the defense minister to represent Israel at the peace talks with Egypt, beginning this Thursday in Washington. Prime Minister [Menachem] Begin, also a fascist, was authorized by the cabinet, to assign other ministers as the head\u2014 as the need may arise and the talks also. Begin, of course, is the minister\u2014\u00a0prime minister, dictator of Israeli\u2014 of what we call Zionist Israel. In an interview of an American television, Moise Dayan said that the talks will be on peace between inte\u2014\u00a0Israel and Egypt, and will not concern the second part of the Camp David talks on the West Bank and Gaza Strip and the Palestinians. <i>None<\/i> of it will be of any concern to him. And that\u2019s a very open admission of lack of sensitivity. Both of our media and this spokesperson\u2014\u00a0no concern about the welfare of\u2014\u00a0of tens of thousands of people that are living in concentration camps because of Zionism. (Pause) What? As Sarah [Harriet Sarah Tropp] says, every dog has a day\u2014\u00a0its da\u2014\u00a0its day sometime. He does not expect Egypt to make progress on peace treaty talks conditional on progress on the implepenat\u2014 implementation our helping of the second part of the Camp David agreement. U.S. Vice President [Walter] Mondale said the Soviet Union was helpful in furthering American efforts to bring about a cease-fire in Lebanon that would have most certainly led to World War III yesterday. That\u2019s kind. At least when I met him, as the only other person to meet him and to give him the key to the city with Mayor, whoever he was at the time, [George] Moscone. Uh, it is um, I\u2019m glad to hear him give some credit to the Soviet Union as being the\u2014 the one responsible for saving nuclea\u2014\u00a0nuclear war over the Near East. He said\u2014 that is, Mondale said, even though the United States asked for Soviet support, he does not expect the Soviets to play a role in the future in settling the Middle East conflicts. That\u2019s the schizophrenia. Naturally, they\u2019re not going to spend any of their time or energy to support the Camp David sellout, which only included\u2014 (Pause) My God, so ignorant, Israel, Egypt and USA, when Israel had conquered southern Lebanese territory and conquered the West Bank of Jordan, they affected other Arab nations. Certainly they con\u2014 and conquered the Gaza Strip from the Egyptian people. Why <i>would<\/i> anyone expect them to participate with such an undemocratic and illegal kind of activity? (tape edit)<\/p>\n<p>\u2014meditation in the US Dominican Republic and the Guatemalan government have ended the first round of talks with Nicaraguan leaders, an anti-government spokesman. They\u2019re trying to avoid further bloodshed over the Central American country\u2019s leadership. Dictator [Anastasio] Somoza\u2019s family has ruled ever since the US put him in power, when the Marines, US Marines invaded the country. Many in the Central and Latin America scene, and the socialist third world feel this is a maneuver to get Guatemala to get aid to Nicaragua\u2019s dictatorship, because Guatemala also is a <i>dread<\/i>\u2014 <i>dreaded<\/i> uh, racist and uh, dictatorial regime, fascist regime that has been threatening uh, a black country just to its uh, (Pause) the new black nation of Belize, and so we can\u2019t feel they\u2019ll be doing anything good. Used to be called British Belize, but Belize is now gaining its independence. Guyana bravely, you know, said that any attack on our country\u2014 PNC, our party, Peoples National Congress, and our leader, Prime Min\u2014 Prime Minister Forbes Burnham, said that any attack on the black nation of Belize by Guatemala would be considered an attack upon Guyana, and Guyana would go to war. We should remember that, at least, all the good points.<\/p>\n<p>The judge in the United States spal\u2014 spy trial frame-up of two Soviets in New Jersey ordered an unusual Sunday session to speed up the proceedings against two Soviet citizens employed with the United Nations. There are tried with trying to buy United States defense secrets, and are supposed to be granted diplomatic immunity, but if they were convicted, they would face death, like the Rosenbergs [Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, executed on charges of espionage].<\/p>\n<p>Widespread flooding continues to devastate areas of south and southwestern Asia. Hundreds of persons are thought\u2014 known to be dead in west Bengal in the last few hours, and India in the floods and their aftermath. Thailand, Cambodia, Laos \u2014 Laos is an ally of the Soviet Union \u2014 and Vietnam have reported less loss of life, but crop damage.<\/p>\n<p>Let us remember to work strongly and mightily to maintain the liberation for our people. We cannot get some of the things we want done. I want tho\u2014\u00a0Alice [Inghram] to show me, I want you, our workers, to show me, that you can produce as much\u2014\u00a0that you can produce two more hours of work in your ten-hour shift than you now do. I want you to increase it, in other words, by twenty percent, and you can do it. If you do that, then that will reduce your hours per day. I also want you to join these various projects to help make money, because it will be then\u2014 means of us having a banquet like the Soviet Union were the only ones to notice it, they noticed the discrepancy, didn\u2019t want to be a part of it, they appreciated the kindness, but they wanted to live like we did, and thought we lived fantastically well. The doctor went away saying everyone here should be grateful for what they have. (Pause) And then we have the pledge of absolute security \u2014 absolute security \u2014 when we need it in the USSR.<\/p>\n<p>The Memphis police has been so bad in murdering black people and Indian people and other minority residents, tortured them in their police stations, that they have been called before the Human Rights Commission of the United Nations. That\u2019s how bad it has been. That takes a <i>serious<\/i> situation, for the Human Rights Commission to interfere with a nation in their operation of their own affairs, they have been called forward by the Human Rights Commission of the United Nations, Memphis, Tennessee police, on their brutality and torture to black, brown and other minorities. It is said that other cities are likely to be cited. Also the Tennessee Civil Rights Commission said that they could not in any way with justification defend the Memphis police in what they\u2019d done. So that\u2019s how bad things are in good ol\u2019 racist USA.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you so much. Work hard, so our people can get free.<\/p>\n<p>(Several moments of silence)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Part 5<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones: <\/strong>There\u2019s one thing that you need to realize and be grateful for. Never forget, the only guest we ever had that did not want to be out in front of the general public were the Soviets. They wanted to be treated as one of us. (Tape break-up) the doctor that is a\u2014 that was with us, I\u2019ve forgotten the medical term, Dr. [Laurence] Schacht could tell you, (Tape break-up) few in the world, it\u2019s rare, that knows how to open the chest\u2014 reanimationist. That\u2019s what it\u2019s called: Reantimation. He knows how to <i>open<\/i> up the whole body and revive people from the dead. (Tape break-up) Soviet Union have found that kind of medical breakthrough that other countries have not. So, if I don\u2019t revive you by the spirit, that\u2019s wonderful, the pressure would be off me, so the <i>doctor<\/i> could do it. And he knows <i>everything<\/i>. He\u2019s a geriatric specialist, he is a pediatric specialist \u2014\u00a0that\u2019s children and seniors \u2014 he knew everything. He went through with a fine-toth\u2014\u00a0toothed clomb. He said, they oughta\u2014 Comrade Jim Jones, Dr. Nikolai said, be <i>thankful<\/i> to live in what you\u2019ve provided them. Their diets are very, very good indeed. And the Soviet is no fool either. You need to realize who he was. The consular of the embassy of USSR to Guyana, and the chief of the press section. That\u2019s a top man, a consular. He is at\u2014\u00a0engineer, an international lawyer, his wife also\u2019s in some form of science and engineering, and he knows <i>everything<\/i> about the law of every nation. And he called this place the most beautiful and harmonious spot he\u2019d ever seen on earth. He said only a few collectives in the Soviet Union have come close to it. He said there\u2019s solidarity and friendship amongst us. Now let\u2019s keep that. Let\u2019s be warm to each other, smile, start practicing now. That\u2019s a part of your test. If anybody\u2014\u00a0anybody report anyone who\u2019s unfriendly or won\u2019t speak, because that was asked, and pointed out by the Soviet Union, and I\u2019m telling you <i>nothing<\/i> but the truth. They are pointing out some of the things that I mentioned. Practically all of them, I\u2019d told you about them over and over before. So I want this cooperated with, young and old. You <i>can<\/i> change your style, some of you go by preoccupied, you don\u2019t say anything to anyone, you can be kind to each other. And this will be brought up at People\u2019s Rallies, if it is not the case. Young or old, whether you are middle-aged, doesn\u2019t make any difference, you\u2019ve got supervisorial responsibilities, if you\u2019re the top dog administrator, how close you are to me, makes no difference <i>whatsoever<\/i>, because I love all people the same. My children can tell you, I\u2014 well, you saw last week, I got on my child much stronger\u2014 he <i>needed<\/i> it, he needed it, but much stronger than I could some of the fragile nerves of some of the weak ones we have here, but we\u2019re going to stop dealing with the fragile nerves, we\u2019re going to deal with you <i>straight<\/i>, so you better get your crystal together, or you\u2019ll break in the public services rally, which begins tonight at 7:30, after language class. Thank you so much.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Part 6:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b>Schacht: <\/b>Attention, attention. I want to remind you of some of the miracles that have occurred here in Jonestown, some of the miracles that Dad\u2019s performed. (Pause) I want you to know that Dad takes into his body, takes into his body, all of the <i>pain<\/i>, all of the pain and the suffering that those of you here who have been very sick have <i>not<\/i> felt, and have <i>not<\/i> endured, and all the times that people who have <i>not<\/i> died, is because Dad took that pain into himself. And we\u2019ve tried to get him to get some rest, and we\u2019ve recommended <i>strong<\/i> sedation, and have tried <i>several<\/i> times, and he cannot get any rest. The notes and the requests and the demands and the\u2014 (Pause) the wr\u2014 the written papers that are handed into him continually. It\u2019s too <i>much<\/i>. He\u2019s <i>got<\/i> to get some rest. And we\u2019ve tried <i>strong<\/i> sedations, we\u2019ve spoken to neurologists, we tried <i>all<\/i> methods, and he <i>needs<\/i> to get some rest, he <i>needs<\/i> to be left alone.<\/p>\n<p>I want to remind you of some of the miracles\u2014 (Pause) some of the fantastic miracles that have happened here. You remember the night that the tire exploded. We were all in the\u2014 in the rally, and we could hear the explosion reverberate, and we rushed down there, and Tommy Beikman was lying there, with his arm <i>twisted<\/i> around like a pretzel. He was <i>blue<\/i> in the face, and with the fluid running out of his nose and his mouth. And we turned him over on his back, and Dad was there, and he said he\u2019d be all right. And he came back to life. He started breathing. His eyes were full of mu\u2014\u00a0metal particles and dirt, and he looked like Jello or gelatin that had been blasted with a\u2014\u00a0with a <i>force<\/i> that just ruptured the eyes. I couldn\u2019t see inside his eyes. They were cracked and\u2014\u00a0and broken. I personally did <i>not<\/i> think he would ever see again. We cleaned out his eyes, but I didn\u2019t think he\u2019d <i>ever<\/i> see again. He went to Georgetown, and he came back, and his eyes were whole, and they\u2019re clear. He\u2019s able to see perfectly. He\u2019s been\u2014 His arm is being taken care of, thanks to Dad.<\/p>\n<p>Another case is Robert Johnson. And Robert Johnson was in <i>extreme<\/i> pain, <i>extreme<\/i> pain, you wouldn\u2019t know unless you\u2019d seen him, he was\u2014\u00a0he was <i>quivering<\/i> and shaking in pain. He couldn\u2019t be moved, he couldn\u2019t\u2014\u00a0he couldn\u2019t stand the pain. He was given <i>high<\/i> doses of medication. We did everything we could, everything we could to analyze the situation, but Dad said, we\u2019re going to send him into town, because he\u2019s got a ruptured appendix. And though the evidence wasn\u2019t clear to us, Dad <i>knew<\/i>, and we sent Robert Johnson to town, he\u2019s\u2014\u00a0we got him on the boat, he made it to Georgetown, and he\u2019s doing fine now. He\u2019s doing fine.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019ve been many, <i>many<\/i> cases where Dad knew the answer. For instance, Bertha\u2014 Bertha Smith. It was mentioned the other night that Bertha Smith had a bowel obstruction, and she did, she had the most serious kinds of bowel obstruction, she had a bowel obstruction of the large bowel, of the colon, it was wrapped around, and it was twisted off, and it was distending with air, and if it hadn\u2019t been for Dad\u2019s power, working for her benefit, I can tell you for <i>sure<\/i> she would\u2019ve died, because it would\u2019ve exploded, and feces stool would\u2019ve filled her abdomen, and she would\u2019ve died <i>here<\/i>. But Dad took care, ordered a plane, we got her to Georgetown, she was operated on. But <i>even<\/i> an operation shou\u2014 shouldn\u2019t have been enough, \u2018cause I know it was Dad\u2019s power that protected her.<\/p>\n<p>Henry (unintelligible last name, could be Mercer) is another example of a man who would\u2019ve died. He was at the door of death itself, and Dad said this man is going to die. But, he <i>didn\u2019t<\/i> die, because Dad said he will <i>not<\/i> die. And we put him in the Special Care Unit, and within a matter of minutes, his pain from\u2014 he had severe pain in his legs, and it went away. And his electrolyte imbalance shifted into an\u2014 into balance, and he was\u2014\u00a0he was able to become alert, and he began talking about his experiences of the past, when just a few moments before\u2014\u00a0a few moments before, he was almost unconscious.<\/p>\n<p>And recall Charlie Touchette, Charlie Touchette, who lay down in his house for <i>days<\/i> with a stroke, a large clot, a blood clot must\u2019ve struck a central artery into his brain, he lay there for <i>days<\/i>, barely conscious, his eyes staring at the ceiling. His eyes looked like\u2014 looked like doll\u2019s eyes, they were glazed. I turned his head from side to ide\u2014 side to side and his\u2014 his eye coordination was\u2014 was um, was not normal. But Dad said he was working on him, he was working on him, and Dad sent every day, sent his power every day, and he kept Charlie Touchette alive. And Tarlie\u2014 Charlie\u2019s okay now. He came through it.<\/p>\n<p>And you should note that\u2014 that those who looked back to Babylon, those who look back to Babylon and don\u2019t accept Dad as their savior and don\u2019t accept his power, think they have their own life to live, like two we have now in the Special Care Unit, lying deathly ill, we have to arouse them <i>every hour<\/i>, just to be sure that they haven\u2019t passed, (Pause) these two have been looking back to Babylon, <i>repeatedly<\/i> write notes about going back to the USA, the USA where they would be thrown in prison, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60990\">the concentration camps<\/a>, and tortured. And Dad\u2019s told them many times they\u2019ll be severely ill, and at this point, they <i>are<\/i> severely ill. They are unable to even (Pause) communicate normally. So be careful about thinking about anything else than Dad\u2019s power and the protection he\u2019s given us by being here. (Pause) (Unintelligible syllable)<\/p>\n<p>And Karen Layton had <i>bone<\/i> cancer. She had bone cancer that was diagnosed by X-rays. You could <i>see<\/i> the bone cancer <i>on<\/i> the x-rays. And it was\u2014\u00a0She was in <i>severe<\/i> pain, and any of you who ever had a\u2014 a fracture know how painful bone\u2014 bone pain can be. And her pain was <i>severe<\/i>. But Dad took\u2014 transferred the pain from <i>her<\/i> body into his body, and he said it was the most <i>severe<\/i> type of pain, and he took that pain from her, and then she went\u2014 Later she was healed, it\u2014 by a diagnosis of x-ray, she was found to be <i>healed<\/i>. And she\u2019s had no problem, no pain at all in her arm. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>There was a man who passed recently [either Emmett Alexander Griffith or Plickards Norris], [I would] point out to you, that he was calling on the wrong\u2014 he called on Jesus, he didn\u2019t call on the\u2014\u00a0on the power that\u2019s in Dad. And owning that power, the power that\u2019s in Dad, could\u2019ve saved him. But he kept calling on the wrong power, he kept calling on Jesus, he kept saying that he had it in himself, he had some power in <i>himself<\/i>, and uh, when Dad heard him calling on Jesus, he said, that\u2019s it. There\u2019s no hope. You have to call on Dad, you have to call on the power and the light that\u2019s in <i>him<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Cleave Swinney\u2019s a good example of a\u2014 of a man who should\u2019ve died 12 years ago. He should have died 12 years ago, with severe arteriosclerosis, or fat hardening of the arteries, where fat accumulates in the vessels. This man was going to be <i>operated<\/i> on, and <i>even<\/i> the neurosurgeons who were going to operate on him said that he had only the <i>smallest<\/i> chance of remaining alive, and <i>if<\/i> he remained alive, that he would certainly be paralyzed in part of his body. But you see Cleave Swinney walking around here, going back and forth to Georgetown, carrying on like a\u2014\u00a0carrying on with the strength <i>greater<\/i> than many men younger than him. And he has absolutely no evidence of a heart disease, (Pause) and he has no evidence whatsoever of stroke or uh, brain impairment.<\/p>\n<p>Rose Peterson was found here to have a nodule in her thyroid gland, and whenever there\u2019s a nodule in the thyroid gland, it\u2019s a very serious possibility of malignancy. She was sent to Georgetown, biopsied, and they discovered that it was malignant. Once a person has a m\u2014 malignancy in her thyroid gland, it\u2019s all over for them. It\u2019s just a matter of <i>time<\/i>. So they closed up the incision, they sent her back to Jonestown, and said she\u2019d pass here. But she\u2019s still alive, she\u2019s been <i>healed<\/i> by Dad\u2019s power, she has no problem with malignant metastatic cancer from her thyroid gland, and the leading testimony is the fact that she\u2019s here and alive and healthy, and she wouldn\u2019t have lived but a couple of months at most, and she would\u2019ve died a terrible, terrible death.<\/p>\n<p>And David Goodwin was struck. He was struck blind. He couldn\u2019t <i>see<\/i>. For two and one-half hours, he couldn\u2019t see. And Dad said that he would give his <i>life<\/i>, he would give his life, he would die if David Goodwin couldn\u2019t see again. And David Goodwin was told by Dad to (unintelligible word), look to Dad, Dad said, look to me and live, and David at that point, and <i>only<\/i> at that point, saw. He saw Dad\u2019s face, it was the first thing he saw, and up to that point, they put fire in his face, they put bright lights in his eyes, and he was stone blind. When Dad said, look to me and live, (Pause) he saw. And he still <i>sees<\/i>. But the fact is, that Dad would\u2019ve put his <i>life<\/i>, he would\u2019ve given his life, just for this young man\u2019s sight. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Isaac Edwards, who was struck by a\u2014 by a ballbat right in the forehead, shoulda killed him <i>instantly<\/i>, would\u2019ve killed an adult or a large human being, would\u2019ve killed him instantly, and he was stunned and knocked into a coma, he was sent to Georgetown, and I was in Georgetown at the time, and you all have seen the x-rays, everyone of you has seen the x-rays of the large skull fracture that he sustained, if he had\u2014 that he had running all the way from the front of his head to the back, a large skull fracture, and uh\u2014 (Pause) he should\u2019ve\u2014\u00a0he <i>should\u2019ve<\/i> died, he should\u2019ve been blind, he should not\u2019ve even <i>lived<\/i> five minutes after he was struck in the head by that ballbat, but Dad again put his power into that child, put his <i>healing<\/i> into Isaac Edwards, and Isaac Edwards is walking around here now as bright and alert as any other child. Completely healed. He\u2019s not blind, and he\u2019s not damaged, he has no problem whatsoever. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Many people\u2014 I can remember Millie Cunningham should be grateful. She has good <i>reason<\/i> to be grateful, \u2018cause I can remember her eyes when she had cataracts. And I looked in her pupils, and they were <i>white<\/i>. She had dense cataracts. And I remember after Dad healed her that her pupils were clear. I could see right through into her eyes. Clear. He\u2019d <i>healed<\/i> her cataracts, she has a\u2014\u00a0a lot of reason to be grateful. She has a lot of reason to be grateful. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>And Jann Gurvich also has good reason to be grateful, because she was healed of breast cancer. Dad healed her of breast cancer, and if she hadna been healed, she\u2019da suffered and died the most <i>horrible<\/i> death you can imagine. If you\u2019ve ever seen anyone die from breast cancer, you know how horrible it is. It affects the brain, and it affects the glandular system, the large bone mestastacystic (unintelligible word under radio interference) cancer invades the bone, and it\u2019s just like a person has boils over their entire body. So that Jann Gurvich is <i>not<\/i> the only one who needs to be grateful, and\u2014\u00a0and is\u2014 <i>is<\/i> grateful to Dad, for healing her of breast cancer.<\/p>\n<p>Also others here. Remember Mom\u2014 Mom <i>Taylor<\/i>\u2014 Virginia Taylor went to Georgetown with breast cancer, she had a <i>large<\/i> lump, with bleeding into the lump, bleeding from the\u2014 the breast, she <i>definitely<\/i> had a very <i>serious<\/i> breast lesion, she went to Georgetown, she was operated on, she\u2019s still alive. She\u2019s still alive, because she <i>knew<\/i> that Dad\u2019s power would reach her. And she didn\u2019t call on anybody else but the name of Jim Jones. And she\u2019s fine now. Even though the pathology report was very, very serious, she\u2019s still alive, and she\u2019s still healthy. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>(unintelligible word under radio interference) know that many of our obstetrical, or our babies that have been delivered here, several of them were born absolutely <i>dead<\/i>. One is particular was\u2014 was blue, hanging limp, but within <i>seconds<\/i>, we called on Dad\u2019s name, and the baby was back\u2014 back to life, was bright pink, with the highest score that a baby can have, which is ten. Good heart rate, pink skin, crying and moving around with\u2014 with perfect reflexes.<\/p>\n<p>Gloria Griffith was\u2014 (Pause) was affected with uh, premature separation of the placenta. She\u2019d been bleeding before she delivered her baby. (Pause) And when we <i>did<\/i> deliver the baby, the baby was fine and healthy, and <i>she<\/i> was fine and healthy, but between the placenta and the inside of the uterus was a large blood clot which indicated perfectly that she\u2019d been bleeding, and that there was no possible way for the last hours and hours and hours that that baby could have achieved or obtained any oxygen through that placenta. So that baby, Camella, is alive and healthy and beautiful, because Dad\u2019s power kept that baby alive during those moments during the delivery. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Mom Jackson should\u2019ve died four years ago, but she was sent to Surinam, sent to Surinam by Dad, so she could be operated on, and she\u2014 even though she was told at that time by the doctors that she should\u2019ve died, she\u2019s here, she\u2019s healthy, and she\u2019s doing fine. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>So to remind you, that each of these cases, and many, many more cases, like Samuel Johnson, who just last week got his hand injured by a chain saw, and chain saws, once they get a hold of your hand, they injure your hand <i>severely<\/i>. He was <i>fortunate<\/i>. He was fortunate, and he was protected, and I\u2019ve seen many, many, <i>many<\/i> times where people\u2019s hands have been protected, just like Sam Johnson\u2019s\u2014 Samuel Johnson\u2019s hand was protected. It came within a hundredth of an <i>inch<\/i> of injuring the artery that goes through his fingers, and that artery, once injured, he would have <i>had<\/i> to lose the finger, it would\u2019ve had no blood supply. But we could see the artery pulsating there, and it was not touched. (Pause) And thank Dad, he\u2019s going to have all his fingers\u2014 all his fingers, because uh, when a chain saw gets a hold of your hand, you never come out without the loss of one or two fingers, if not most of the hand. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>So I want to emphasize that all these healings, and all these <i>miraculous<\/i> healings take place, and the pain\u2019s removed from so many of you that you don\u2019t even <i>know<\/i> about it, he doesn\u2019t call people out like he did so much before in the States, he doesn\u2019t make it\u2014 he doesn\u2019t make it so obvious, but he does the <i>work<\/i>, and he takes that pain into his own body, and he hurts in every joint in his body, he has severe urinary pain, he suffers <i>all<\/i> the time, he can\u2019t even <i>sleep<\/i>. That is a <i>fact<\/i>. (Deliberately spoken sentence) He cannot sleep. He\u2019s got so much a burden on him, he reads these messages from the USA, he reads the messages from Georgetown, <i>and<\/i> he\u2019s continually dealing with track\u2014\u00a0traffic from those two places, and he\u2019s dealing with all the notes, the requests, the complaints, and letters that he gets from people here in this community. So <i>consider<\/i> that, consider that.<\/p>\n<p>The reason you don\u2019t see people with severe strokes like\u2014 (Pause) (Off mike) What\u2019s that woman\u2019s name, the one\u2014 (back on) like Lena Benton, she had <i>three severe<\/i> elevations of her blood pressure, her blood pressure to over 240 over 150. It\u2019s\u2014 Anything above 130 is considered absolute serious stroke level. But she didn\u2019t have a stroke. She didn\u2019t even <i>realize<\/i> her blood pressure was that high, but because Dad insists that we take everybody\u2019s blood pressure, and we check on people who have these problems, she was picked up and <i>found<\/i> to have blood pressure that high. Hundreds of dollars worth of medication has been brought in her bed\u2014\u00a0by Dad, but <i>still<\/i>, even with medication, it shouldn\u2019t have prevented her from having a stroke at that point. She\u2019d gone way <i>beyond<\/i> the point where she was <i>safe<\/i>, and thanks to Dad, she\u2019s <i>not<\/i> in\u2014 pulling herself along right now, dragging one of her legs, or seeing out\u2014\u00a0only out of one eye, or having her tongue hang out of the mouth to the side, because she can\u2019t control. She\u2019s got control, and that kind of protection is unknown anyplace else in the world. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>So don\u2019t put any <i>more<\/i>\u2014 any more burden on him at this point than you can, because, even though he doesn\u2019t <i>talk<\/i> about it, he <i>takes<\/i> these burdens in, he takes on these problems, he\u2014 he does more than (unintelligible phrase under radio interference) begin to mention. All these healings that have taken place, all the hundred people that\u2019ve been brought down from\u2014\u00a0from elevated blood pressure, all the diabetics, the\u2014 the fo\u2014\u00a0the foot, that Fairy Norwood\u2019s foot has been saved by Dad. All the\u2014\u00a0All the diabetics whose blood sugar has become normal be\u2014\u00a0has become normal because of his <i>power<\/i>, because of his <i>influence<\/i>. (Pause) All the people with heart disease who\u2014 who\u2019ve lived on borrowed time have\u2014 on borrowed time should be <i>grateful<\/i> to Dad because of the power that sustains their life. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Another miracle that just happened this week was Ava Ingram, who had a severe elevation of temperature, she had a fever of a\u2014 over a hundred and six, and severe pain, and she would\u2019ve been mentally retarded, she would\u2019ve had <i>brain<\/i> damage, she would\u2019ve had a decrease in her IQ, because the brain <i>fries<\/i> when it gets to temperatures over a hundred and four, a hundred and five. But Dad went and touched her, and she\u2019s all right now. She\u2019s had <i>no<\/i> problem whatsoever, no decrease in her mental ability at all, we can thank Dad for that. And that\u2019s not the only time.<\/p>\n<p>And aside from the fact that <i>he himself<\/i> has had severely high temperatures, 105, 106, very <i>often<\/i>, very <i>often<\/i> he\u2019s 103 and 104, and yet he comes to meetings, he gets on the\u2014\u00a0the uh, on the uh, P.A., and he discusses problems and teaches, and he <i>reads<\/i> the notes, he reads the continual influx of notes that he has to deal with. (Pause) I\u2019ve seen the stack. It\u2019s\u2014 Sometimes it\u2019s nearly eight inches, nine inches <i>thick<\/i> of notes that he has to go through. And that\u2019s being conservative. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>So <i>think<\/i> about these miracles. Think about the miracles that have happened to you, there\u2019ve been so many, you really can\u2019t tell them all. Another\u2014 Another great miracle, of course, was Walter Williams. I saw\u2014 We saw\u2014 went to see Walter Williams after he\u2019d been struck on the back of the head by a beam, he was lying in the back of the\u2014 the trailer, unable to move <i>anything<\/i> from his neck to his waist, he would\u2019ve been paralyzed, and Dad put it very well when he said, that his arms would\u2019ve withered up like sticks, hanging at his side. That\u2019s <i>exactly<\/i> what would\u2019ve happened to him. He had a severe brain injury, he had blood and spinal fluid gushing out of his nose and his mouth, and I did a complete neurologic exam on him, and found his eyes were not working together, one of them was stuck, uh, looking out to the side, the pupils were abnormal. He was in <i>very<\/i> serious shape. I tried to get him to grasp my hands and to\u2014 and to make some motion or some kind of signal from his arms that he could feel or move them, but there was <i>nothing<\/i>, no response whatsoever. And Dad walked over, took his hands, put his fingers in Walter Williams\u2019 hands and said, &#8220;Grab my hands,&#8221; and Walter Williams <i>squeezed<\/i>, and he was\u2014 I\u2019m going to tell you, Walter Williams was grateful at that point, and should be grateful for the rest of his life, because that power\u2014 that power that Dad has went <i>into<\/i> Walter Williams at that time, and healed what was a very serious spinal fracture, very serious damage to his spinal cord. And Walter Williams was sent in to Georgetown, <i>just<\/i> to be sure, just to be sure, because Dad always\u2014 even though he knew <i>perfectly<\/i> well that he healed him, that his power had completely taken care of the problem, he always wants to make sure that we do everything medically\u2014 medically proper, and so he was sent to Georgetown, but the next day, he was up walking around in the hospital, completely healed.<\/p>\n<p>And Steve Addison was brought to my attention one day down in the uh, uh, the apartment where he lay, and he was in <i>seizures<\/i>, his eyes were wide open, his lids were twitching, he was sweating, his tongue was hanging out, he was unable to\u2014 to talk, he was unable to\u2014 to move, to swallow, and you can\u2019t go on very long when\u2014 being unable to swallow. And he was in spasms and seizures, and we went to him, and we tried to go as long as we could, but Dad was told, and Dad went down there and looked at him, and said, &#8220;You will be all right, Steve, you will be all right, Steve,&#8221; and up to that time, we\u2019d asked Steve, &#8220;What\u2019s two plus two?&#8221; and he\u2019d say seven or one, or wouldn\u2019t say anything, he could hardly even <i>talk<\/i>, and then Dad asked him, &#8220;Steve, what\u2019s two plus two?&#8221; and Steve said four. And he healed Steve from that\u2014 that terrible stroke and seizure that he had, that should\u2019ve left him a paralyzed vegetable the rest of his life, Dad took all that into him, and healed Steve. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Also the woman who had um, a stroke, was unable to swallow\u2014 (off mike) What\u2019s the (unintelligible word) name? (unintelligible sentence) (back on mike) The woman who\u2014\u00a0who was unable to swallow, she was in the nursing department, she couldn\u2019t\u2014\u00a0she couldn\u2019t uh, pull her tongue in, she was unable to\u2014 to uh, she would\u2019ve been a <i>vegetable<\/i> the rest of her life, \u2018cause I can tell you, when you can\u2019t swallow, and you have to be fed through a tube, then you\u2019ve had it. You\u2019ve had it, because you end up getting into severe electrolyte abnormalities, and dehydration, and it can only be fought so long, so long. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>I want to tell you about the time that Earl McKnight was healed. Earl McKnight had\u2014\u00a0had severe edema of his lungs. If anybody had seen him, he would have seen that he had legs as big around\u2014\u00a0almost a <i>foot<\/i> around, they were terribly, terribly enlarged. He uh, had a gigantic heart, we took an x-ray, and found a gigantic heart and a <i>large<\/i> amount of fluid in his lungs. We moved him over to the Special Care Unit, and we found (Pause) at that time that he was just about dead. I looked at him in his face, and I said, &#8220;He\u2019s gone. He\u2019s gone.&#8221; We told Dad\u2014 We told Dad that um, (Pause) about his condition, and that his mouth was hanging open and his tongue was out to the side, and saliva was running down his face, and his eyes were sunken in and wide-open (unintelligible phrase under radio interference), and he said, &#8220;He\u2019s going to be all right. He\u2019s going to be all right.&#8221; And he <i>was<\/i>. He was all right. Within a matter of moments, he was alert, he was up, he was talking again, and if you look at Earl McKnight now, he\u2019s been completely healed, his heart size has been checked since then, it\u2019s lu\u2014\u00a0it\u2019s coming down to a normal size, his lungs are cleared up, and he\u2019s doing well. And if you look at his legs now, they\u2019re absolutely normal. Absolutely normal. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>And it\u2019s to be pointed out that the reason that Earl McKnight was\u2014 was so sick and almost died is because he was calling on Jesus. Again, he was one who had been calling on the (Deliberate tone) <i>wrong name<\/i>. He didn\u2019t call on Dad. And the <i>only<\/i> way to achieve healing, the only way to maintain your health, and the only way to <i>keep<\/i> your life is to call on Dad.<\/p>\n<p>And Bobby Stroud\u2014 Bobby Stroud came in after he\u2019d been run over by the truck. He should\u2019ve been dead. Large\u2014\u00a0Large wheels, rubber tires went right over his\u2014 his pelvic area, crushing his leg, cr\u2014 and then it ran across the other leg and crushed the other leg. One inch more, and it would\u2019ve run across his bladder, right across his rectum, would\u2019ve been permanently impaired, he never would\u2019ve been able to have a normal bowel movement, he never would\u2019ve been able to urinate normally, he would\u2019ve gone into what\u2019s called uremia, which is renal failure, and become <i>terribly<\/i> infected and died. Plus the fact than <i>anytime anybody<\/i> has a severe hip injury like that, so much blood flows out into the hip, into that area, you can lose as much as your\u2014\u00a0<i>half<\/i> of your blood volume, <i>half<\/i> of your entire blood into that area of the body, and he didn\u2019t. He didn\u2019t. And I thank Dad, because that tire <i>just<\/i> missed his vital organs, and I thank\u2014 thank Dad that he didn\u2019t die in shock. And now he\u2019s up, he\u2019s doing well in Georgetown, he\u2019s\u2014 the last report was, he was going up and down the stairs by himself. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>And Bea Jackson, who fell into the sea forty\u2014\u00a0at <i>least<\/i> forty feet, she fell, another senior fell with her right on top of her, she fractured her hip, and <i>she\u2019s<\/i> walking around now. And Dad protected her, \u2018cause <i>nobody<\/i> falls that far without <i>dying<\/i>, much less\u2014 much less walking around a year later. And she was walking around a\u2014 a lot sooner than that, within\u2014\u00a0within <i>weeks<\/i>. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>And she\u2019s not the only one who\u2019s been protected from severe falls. I know <i>myself<\/i>, I fell down the\u2014\u00a0the back steps of the senior center, and I want to thank Dad, because the way I struck my arm, I should\u2019ve fractured my\u2014 my elbow in both the arms\u2014\u00a0both the bones in my forearm, and it would\u2019ve been a very serious injury, very serious, involving arteries and nerves. But because of him\u2014 and I\u2019m\u2014\u00a0and I\u2019m grateful to him for that. Because of him, I was protected and didn\u2019t fracture a bone, got right up and went on. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>In the night we worked three hours\u2014 no, two\u2014 two hours\u2014 It was about two hours on a baby that came in from Port Kaituma, it had a foreign body obstructing its nose, and up in its upper airways, it would\u2019ve certainly aspirated and strangled and\u2014\u00a0and had to be operated on through the chest wall, and we worked and <i>worked<\/i> and worked to try to get that out, it had swollen so large, and Dad walked in the room, and the\u2014 the object just floated right up out of the child\u2019s nose. It floated right up out of his nose. All of us there were <i>amazed<\/i> to see that happen. It was five minutes\u2014 Dad just walked right in the room, in fine minutes, it\u2014 it came right out. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>And just\u2014 just shortly ago, Scott Thomas got a severe burn in his eye with uh, juice from the hot pepper, and it just fried his cornea, and yet in a matter of minutes, he was\u2014\u00a0he was fine in a matter of minutes. The cornea, which was scarred and\u2014\u00a0and uh, looked like a waves were rippling through it, it was just turned into gelatin, just a matter of minutes later, we thought on Dad, and his eye cleared over and healed over, and the severe pain went away. That was <i>miraculous<\/i>, because others of us\u2014\u00a0and those of you <i>know<\/i> how <i>severe<\/i> the burning and the destructive nature of that uh, that uh, (Pause) that material is. It\u2019s <i>very, very<\/i> painful. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>And it <i>should<\/i>\u2014\u00a0It should <i>certainly<\/i> be obvious to you\u2014 It certainly be obvious to you that\u2014 that this community has an aura of power surrounding it, because of Dad, because of the <i>small<\/i> number of\u2014\u00a0of serious medical problems that have occurred here. There\u2019ve been almost <i>no<\/i> serious\u2014\u00a0serious ah, heart conditions that\u2019ve\u2014 for instance, heart attacks in\u2014 In a full time we\u2019ve been here, we\u2019ve not had one heart attack occur. That is\u2014\u00a0(stumbles over words) That never\u2014\u00a0That\u2019s unheard of. That would <i>never<\/i> happen anywhere else. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Kim Fry had a severe laceration to her foot, went right through\u2014\u00a0went right through the skin, and some of the tendons which\u2014\u00a0that\u2019s been repaired and taken care of, but the fact is, that whe\u2014 she\u2019s walking well now, but the fact is, when a person receives a laceration like that, it was only <i>miraculous<\/i> that she didn\u2019t lose all her toes and the entire end of her <i>foot<\/i>. That\u2019s a miracle she should be very, very grateful for. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>And of course, the time that the six children gotten into poison, because the\u2014\u00a0because the poison was <i>left<\/i> in a bottle that made it look like a\u2014\u00a0like a uh, soft drink, or some kind of beverage, and the children took the poison, which as soon as it hits the stomach, spreads throughout the body and damages the nervous system severely, causes severe mental retardation and paralysis, and these children are <i>all<\/i> perfectly healthy, perfectly normal. By the time we got them there, and got the tubes in, it would\u2019ve been <i>too<\/i> late to get that poison\u2014\u00a0to keep it from spreading throughout their body. But because Dad prophesied that they\u2019d be okay, they <i>were<\/i> okay. And they are okay now. Every one of them, fully restored to health. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Teena Turner, who had severe postpartum infection, in the\u2014 in the\u2014 ex\u2014 she had a fever of a hundred and five <i>plus<\/i>, and she had ex\u2014 excruciating pain, her uterus was like a ball of pus, her in\u2014\u00a0her abdomen was inflamed, and she had infection spreading throughout her abdomen, you could tell it was already up to her diaphragm, and she was begun on antibiotics at high doses which had been provided by Dad, \u2018cause he\u2019s provided all medications for us here, but even that\u2014 even that would not in <i>any<\/i> way have been enough to counter an infection like that. Within a matter of 24 hours, her fever was down, and she was already becoming well. (Pause) And she\u2019s of <i>course<\/i> perfectly well now. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>And Oliver Morgan fell from the power pole, fell <i>nine feet<\/i>, flat on his back, should\u2019ve torn his back, twisted ligaments, suffered spinal injury, but he didn\u2019t. Not at all. No problem whatsoever. He\u2019s\u2014 He\u2019s able to walk. In fact he just walked up here and told me about that.<\/p>\n<p>The woman was Louise Shavers who had a severe stroke, and was unable to talk or swallow, and who Dad said would be all right, and she\u2019s all right. In a matter of moments after he spoke the words, she was fine.<\/p>\n<p>And I want to thank Dad <i>personally<\/i>, because I wouldn\u2019t be standing here now, if several years ago, he hadn\u2019t have stopped a plane from crashing, which was landing in the San Francisco airport, (unintelligible word under radio interference), and when the plane landed and touched down, there was tremendous jolt when the plane first touched the runway, and all the people in the plane looked around in amazement at each other, and the person I was seated next to looked in amazement at me, and when I got back\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>End of tape<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b>Tape originally posted February 2003<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To return to the Tape Index, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1, Pt. 2). To read the Tape Summary, click here. 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