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(Note:<\/strong> Transcript prepared by Seriina Covarrubias. The editors gratefully acknowledge her assistance.)<\/i><\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> <\/b>\u2013it goes on, the voice of monopoly capitalism. If corporations are not actively engaged in helping to solve the problems created by Proposition 13, they may well be victims of a \u201clet\u2019s tax the rich\u201d movement which we cannot stand, which is already echoing some places in some communities. Of course even the Wall Street Journal <\/i>relies on euphemisms once in a while, so one should read \u201chelping to solve the problems,\u201d as not really meaning what it says, as meaning merely make sure you\u2019re in the middle of the local government process so that you can see<\/i> to it that subversive soak the rich propaganda which some politicians might feel obliged or pressured to do by their middle-class voters to utter doesn\u2019t get past the stage of talking or rhetoric. The Wall Street Journal<\/i>\u2019s services to its readers are not confined to such practical advice however. Businessmen also need their ideology and their myths<\/i>, if not always for themselves, at least<\/i> as arguments to pass on to the more naive. A master at this trade is Irving Kristol, K-R-I-S-T-O-L, a member of the Wall Street Journal<\/i>\u2019s board of contributors whose fascist reactionary words of wisdom range from comments on the inherent unfairness of all schemes that promote equality for the working class and particularly equality for blacks and Indians and Asians, to celebrations of private profit as representing the closest<\/i> thing to the heavenly ideal that Jesus represented as the King of Kings to be found on this Earth. Clearly a philosopher to be reckoned with. Proposition 13 and such measures like it now being passed be\u2013 due to the rightwing neo-fascist racist mood of the US public offers an opportunity to see the Kristol mind of wo\u2013 at work. The style is set up a trick argument. Uh, it\u2019s just\u2013 the purpose is to set up a trick argument. Since the charge is made that the tax cuts mandatated\u2013 mandated by such propositions as 13 will particularly injure the poor, uh, Kristol responds with the following linguistic slight of hand. To begin with, he says, it is ridiculous to talk as if all government services were of primary benefit to the poor. Of course this is a statement with which no Marxist-Leninist or socialist would disagree<\/i> because it never gets to the poor. It gets to the bureaucrats<\/i>. But Kristol has something else in mind. Summer schools, for instance, now closed in California and other states where Proposition 13 was passed, may be useful to some poor kids, but they are no less useful to children of the middle<\/i> class. And that\u2019s what they\u2019re worried about, said the Wall Street Journal<\/i>. Very true, except that as one of Kristol\u2019s more candid conferees, James Burnham, writing in the rightwing National Review<\/i> points out, among the immediate<\/i> beneficiaries of Proposition 13 in California were the owners of private summer camps who reported applications up as much as six times \u2013 600 percent \u2013 over last year. Naturally our instincts prompt the guess that those flooding California and Oregon private summer camps, being that this tax cut has come about, were not children of the poor, \u2018cause they can\u2019t afford it who suddenly found themselves without summer school, but that those\u2013\u00a0children of the middle<\/i> class, the petty bourgeoisie. But Kristol is hardly<\/i> done. If you want to know who benefits from summer schools, they are beyond all<\/i> doubt profitable to middle class teachers. In fact, he adds, there are previous<\/i> few social programs that do not massively benefit middle class professionals of all kinds. So what\u2019s the fuss about, he says. So it shows the monopolist capitalists don\u2019t care about teachers or uh, psychologists or doctors that are connected with the school systems even. Why the m\u2013 middle class petty bourgeoisie can\u2019t see this, I do not know. Besides, argues Kristol of the Wall Street Journal<\/i>, there are far<\/i> fewer truly poor people in this country then the conventional statistics suggest, which is an outright lie. To prove the inadequacy of conventional views, which would meavur pov\u2013 measure poverty by income, would you believe that the Wall Street Journal <\/i>cites the case of a couple of married graduate students whose nominal income at the moment might only be 4,000 dollars which is not enough to feed a family, it\u2019s beneath the poverty level, even according to the US government. But who was paying for their graduate school, the Wall Street Journal <\/i>does not bother to say, \u2018cause obviously they couldn\u2019t pay for college which now costs 6,000 dollars a year<\/i> per person<\/i> and still live on 4,000 dollars. Are they poor, those graduate students on 4,000 dollars a year, he asks, considering their prospects? Ergo, don\u2019t jump to conclusion next time you hear that a family is trying to get by on 4,000 a year, which they can\u2019t in US society. On the other hand, you might think that a household with an income of 30,000 or 40,000 a year as a result of husband and wife both working, is affluent<\/i>. You couldn\u2019t be more wrong. There are taxes<\/i> to be paid, mortgage<\/i> payments to make, two cars<\/i> to support and perhaps a child or two or three who is going or will soon go to college. Even the Wall Street Journal <\/i>admits that those making 30- to 40,000 dollars can\u2019t make it. Very contradictory. Stupefying, is it not? Of course it isn\u2019t given to the rest of us humdrum mortals who\u2019ve begun to learn about socialism, to live in a world, people with happy-go-lucky 4,000 a year graduate students and working class families who can barely make ends meet on\u2013 if they\u2019re in the middle class, even their annual 40,000 dollaes take home pay<\/i>. But who is to say that the Wall Street\u2019s world is less typical than our own uh, unless one should unfairly charge the Wall Street Journal <\/i>with a lack of compassion for those whose lives are genuinely precarious, even slowly starving, people in the 30,000 dollar bracket not able to afford meat. Consider this comment. The welfare population will be but minimally<\/i> affected by the\u2013 such measures as Proposition 13\u2019s now being passed throughout the nation, suffering only the lost of cost of living increases to welfare rates that are the nation\u2019s highest and a general reduction of the already too high payments that welfare families receive. How can they say that but with tongue in cheek when welfare\u2013 uh, not even now<\/i> able to maintain a family. It\u2019s the use of the word \u201conly\u201d in this last sentence in the Wall Street Journal <\/i>that clinches the case for showing that Wall Street Journal <\/i>is (draws out word) all cold heart. Well, one should on almost infinitely,<\/i> citing examples of the wondrous<\/i> passions of finance capital\u2013 monopoly capitalist news periodical Wall Street Journal<\/i>. Hardly a day<\/i> passes without a similar gem. Were the left socialist to set out to publish the most damning<\/i> of what it deemed to be the secret thoughts of the monopoly corporate industrial military class wealth that owns the country, it would still be hard<\/i>-pressed to improve on any given issue of the Wall Street Journal<\/i>. May its publish\u2013 may it publish for as long as monopoly capital rules which seems to be a long time in USA, at least until nuclear war comes and destroys most of the working class. Well, that\u2019s very interesting, how the Wall Street Journal <\/i>is still crass and openly admits in the newspaper what it\u2019s doing to working class people. (Pause)<\/p>\n

We shall uh, discuss Peru now. It\u2019s close to us. The Peruvian left seeks unity after the elections. The Peruvian Socialists are talking unity in the wake of spectacular successes in their last July eighteenth constitutional assembly elections and in the midst of a militant three-month-old teacher strike. Under serious discussions is the possible formation of a frenta<\/i>, front that is, unico de la revolucion<\/i>, unitary front of the revolution, which could conceivably<\/i> bring together dozens<\/i> of Marxist-Leninist, Trotskyist, and even Social Democratic organizations. Socialist parties and the coalitions won nearly 40 percent of the vote in spite of vicious<\/i> repressions of their labor organization, suppression of their press and the control of the regular press by the monopoly capitalists, and arrest or deportation of thousands<\/i> of their leaders just prior to their elections. More than half of the vote, 20 percent, went to the two principal fronts, UDP and FOECP [FOCEP], which are openly led by Marxist-Leninists and Trotskyists. By contrast, the pro-Moscow Peruvian Communist Party, PCPU, which lost much of its worker and student cadre because of old guard mentality of the Communist Party of Peru in a split six months ago received only six percent. Hugo Blanco, the charismatic Trotskyist, an internationalist. As you know, the major enemies of Socialism though are Revisionism, Anarchy, Social Democracy, and Trotskyism, because generally the Trotskyists don\u2019t have a plan. They don\u2019t\u2013 they\u2019re too international-minded, they\u2019re\u2013 they know what they\u2019re against<\/i>, but they don\u2019t have solutions, or programs to implement the problem. But this Hugo Blanco, a former peasant leader, was the biggest leftist vote-getter, helping FOCEP win over 11 percent. FOCEP put forward its call for socialist revolution in a more rebellious and radical fashion, while the UDP emphasized a broader and more coherent program. Thus in the present context of the radicalization of the Peruvian working class masses in the mist of economic depression caused by US capitalism and political crisis, some observers see FOCEP as having received a larger vote of protest while the UDP won a smaller but more organized militant and cadre vote. However Blanco is famous \u2013 as he is throughout Peru and the world for his leadership of the peasant insurrections of the early 1960\u2019s \u2013 rejects the thesis that his vote represents simply his popularity among the poor, or just a protest against austerity and military dictatorship. \u201cI know that people did not vote for me because of romanticism or illusions. I think that the popular vote expresses a great sentiment for a worker\u2019s government and for socialism. Let\u2019s face it. The UDP had much more organization, many more cadre, and propaganda apparatus than FOCEP. Nevertheless you see the results. The masses are more radical in Peru, and look for socialism,\u201d Blanco said in the interview. FOCEP and UDP each contains both Marxist-Leninist and Trotskyist organizations. The central obstacle to their unification? The past has reportedly been the opposition of Blanco and others to including Social Democrats in the United Front. Blanco\u2019s party rejects any alliance with what he terms the so-called progressive bourgeoisie, that is those populist military officers and sectors of the petty bourgeoisie which formerly supported the military regime and have now formed the Partido Socialesto Revolusionario, PSR. Under intense popular pressure, the military regime of General Francisco Morales Bermudez declared an amnesty on July 30 which will permit Blanco and other exiled leaders to return to Peru immediately. Meanwhile, a 120,000 public school teachers have strengthened their nationwide strike in Peru, now entering in its third month. Three million primary and secondary students are affected, many of them joining with the strikers in daily street clashes with the military and police. It was a miracle<\/i> that the left won with military dictatorship in control. The teachers\u2019 struggle has become the focus of popular opposition to the regime, and may well culminate in yet another paralysis of the entire country. The government has issued arrest warrants for all<\/i> officials of the teachers union, SUTEP, accusing them of being totalitarian and ultra-left Marxists who are waging a subversive political strike. Nonetheless Peru, at this point, has not been retaken over by the military, whereas in Bolivia, where the left won the military \u2013 even admitting it was a fraudulent election \u2013 finally had to come back and take control, although there\u2019re still people striking, even though it means imprisonment without trial or death. We\u2019re so glad that\u2013 we\u2019re so<\/i> glad for this kind of courage of the people to fight on, to fight on indeed they are. (Pause)<\/p>\n

We are, I think, about to the end of the news. I can\u2019t think of anything else. Beloved Chicote, the Guinea-Bissau prime minister, the Marxist state, died at 39 years of age. He was killed in an auto accident, perhaps engineered, it is thought by the CIA in the small West African nation. Look it up in your map. (Reads) Chico, C-H-I-C-O, te, T-E, as he was affectionately called by the people of his country. Was born in (stumbles over pronunciation) Tuchude, T-U-C-H-U-D-E, in 1939. In 1960, he joined the African party for the independence of Guinea and Cape Verde, and served as a dedicated party socialist militant until his death. From 1960 to \u201962, Mendes was a\u2013 as they call him, Chico, the man that was killed, was a political commissar in neighboring Guinea Conakry. When the PAIGC (pause) launched its armed struggle against Portuguese colonialism in 1962, he was a party activist in the Bafata region which was one of the first areas liberated by the socialists from Portuguese colonial rule by armed struggle. In 1963 he was appointed political military leader for the entire northern region and became a member of the Political Socialist Bureau, the party bureau in 1964. In 1965 he became a member of the War Council, and from 1967\u2013 1967\u2013 67 to 1970 he was responsible for ideological work in the political commission on the central committee. It was under his leadership that 1,000 mercenaries hired by U.S. imperialism and their lackeys \u2013 white mercenaries \u2013 were destroyed and driven out after they parachute\u2013 they were parachuted to do subversion in that lovely country of Guinea-Bissau. In 1970 he assumed nationwide responsibilities for logistics of the War Council and became a member of the Executive Committee. When Guinea-Bissau, G-U-N (corrects himself) G-U-I-N-E-A dash B-I-S-S-A-U, proclaimed its independence in 1973, he was elected Prime Minister and President of the National Socialist Commission. (pause) This man, say (unintelligible name), was a warm jovial man. Early in the morning of November 7, 1973, shortly after crossing an unmarked border into Guinea-Bissau with socialist militants, Chico met us near the border with a detachment of socialist guerillas, activists, liberation forces, and members of the local population. He was powerfully built, with the hands of a person who loved work and the eyes of a man who loved children. In fact, our fondest memories of him are of the stops we made in villages during our long march through the bush. The children literally came running to him with squeals of delight, shouting his name, Chicote, Chicote. Like most social revolutionaries, Mendes Chicote was motivated by a great love, not only for children but also for (draws out word) all of humanity and socialism. Chico Mendes and other likes him in the PAIGC exemplified the quiet confidence of their people. They were able to endure severe difficulties and a\u2013 unimaginable<\/i> hardships because of their vision and their belief in the possibility of building a better socialist world. And to think some of us complain when we have so much. That\u2019s why you should feel guilt<\/i> that we help put pain on men like him and cause the death of many, many millions of black children and Asian children, two million people alone in Indonesia, and we have everything we need, and they endured eating bark from the trees. When we learned of his death, we thought back to our first meeting, the long discussions about what was happening in the world and what would be done in the new Guinea-Bissau under socialism. In our last meeting when the National Assembly had met for the first time in the recently-liberated capital city of Bissau, B-I-S-S-A-U, one of\u2013 one cannot understand the life of a Francisco Mendes, or affectionately called Chicote, without understanding the society and conditions he sprang from before the government that\u2019s still socialist\u2013 the capitalists did not succeed in taking over Guinea-Bissau with his death. The government launched its revolution\u2013 there were only four<\/i> doctors before they launched their revolution in that colonial nation held out\u2013 held down by the US, its\u2013 and its lackey fascist Portugal before its revolution, only four<\/i> doctors in the entire country which had a population of 600,000 people. Poverty, illiteracy, and disease were the people\u2019s only birthright under the colonialism of the Europeans and USA. No one could read or write. For Mendes, or Chicote, and his comrades, the words \u201csocialist revolution\u201d had a real meaning, based upon the concrete realities of their everyday existence. Theirs was not an intellectual or theoretical exercise. He will be greatly missed, this giant of a man, and he will be mourned. However as in the case of the late Amrocal [Almeida] Cabral, founder and Secretary General of the ruling socialist government PA\u2013 AIGC in Guinea-Bissau, his legacy is a nation full<\/i> of young Chicotes, in spite of our tax dollars trying to murder them. God, God, God, think. No doctors and all\u2013 better than three-fourths of the population was starving before his government took over in Guinea-Bissau and drove out the European-US corporations by armed struggle.<\/p>\n

This is important news, we\u2019ve been giving you more of it than usual, hoping that you will take a look at what\u2019s happening.<\/p>\n

Cuts loom over the general hospitals of U\u2013 United States. One example is given. Chicago\u2019s Cook County General Hospital that now at\u2013 due to the tax cuts has a severe reduction in patient care services as a way to overcome a seven million dollar budget cut. It is the only public hospital in the city that offers any kind of fair medical care and at somewhat lower rates than private hospitals, still even above the ability of the poor to pay. The Cook County Health and Hospital\u2019s Governing Commission, the board that runs the hospital, recently fired 100 hospital employees \u2013 mostly minorities of course, black and brown, Indian \u2013 and suggested voluntary employee pay cuts as one way to avoid laying off over 1,000 more of its 8,200 employees. The Governing Commission is also investigating other cost-cutting measures, including no more prescription drugs will be given, no drugs for any welfare patients. No more dialysis for chronically-ill kidney patients, even if they have money to pay, \u2018cause it\u2019s costly. Cutting out employees health services, no insurance for employees. Closing the School of Nursing to train nurses badly needed particularly in the poor cities of USA. Closing the Pediatric Dental School. The whole idea of cutbacks is shocking<\/i>, said Harold Quigley, head of the Committee to Defend Cook County Hospital, a group of concerned doctors, nurses, hospital aides, and community residents. The loss will be irreversible, irretrievable. This will deepen health deprivations that already exist. People will not get medical care at all, and he said this is the tragedy that this is happening with every general hospital in every city in the United States. It recently revealed that the hospital has paid a consultant 625,000 to tell them how to save money. That\u2019s the hypocrisy of capitalism. A big capitalist consulting firm gets 625,000 to tell them how to save money by putting burdens on the working class.<\/p>\n

This seems to be the major news. I can\u2019t think of anything else that would be particularly helpful. There is more news constantly of black people being killed by riotous police, mob killings, and castrations that go on all<\/i> the time. Now campaigns of hysteria whipped up also against the homosexual as well as the black and Indian co\u2013 and Asian community. This continues to plague the nation. The last one I remember is a black woman raped by seven men in Seattle, and then her breasts were cut half off when the rape was finished. No one had any clues, it said, to the crime, though it was in a neighborhood traveled by many people, passerbys [passersby] did nothing to help, and this happened open daylight, she was drug into an alley, raped, mutilated, one black mother with four children. This is typical of the racism, I\u2019m telling you, no matter what the government wants to do, that the so-called charade of harmony and e\u2013 equality, human rights, the people are filled with race hate, and I demand that you study this tape, and I want everyone that has ever been on the floor for going back to have a special class for which they listen to it very closely and have a teacher help them understand it very, very thoroughly. Much love to you.<\/p>\n

Four o\u2019clock there shall be television for the children, from four till six with interpreters, I demand with interpreters. Do you hear me? With interpreters. Then at six, our musical program of our beautiful musicians, songsters, Moms Mabley [likely Bertha Cook], that people like Norman would enjoy. I\u2019d like for him to see some of our talent, though we can\u2019t possibly display it all,<\/i> and then after that there will be television selections. I think the movie Parallax View<\/i> must<\/i> be seen by all. I urge all<\/i> of you to take a look at it, but I think tonight the State of Siege<\/i>, a fascinating movie with drama and reality \u2013 truth \u2013 will be the movie of the night on the televisions. State of Siege<\/i>. Then later, if you care, you that have come since seeing the golden years that show the horrible<\/i> suffering of all<\/i> nations poor people USA. I mean all of the old, be they business people, they say their lives are worse than death. A black mother with her leg cut off. No one to take care of her grandchild while she went to the hospital and her legs were removed. No one to take care of her child when she came home, he was starving to death, laying lifeless nearly. Seventy years of age, no one to take over the grandchild. He\u2019ll be put in an institution where they\u2019re given no special treatment, not even enough to eat<\/i> anymore with all the tax cuts. See white businessman so alone in a hotel, dirty old hotel room having to climb six flights, 70 some, or 68 steps, and he\u2019s crippled with arthritis. You have to watch them as they look behind their shoulders, so fearful they\u2019ll be mugged for their few dollars they have, afraid to cash their checks, what little they have. All of the living in dumps, even though some of them, as you see, own businesses, white, black, Asian, Indian, all<\/i> of them. What happened to the plight of our old is horrifying<\/i> in USA. The loneliness\u2013 they even say that please to the cameramen to talk to them, \u2018cause they have no one that\u2019ll talk to them in the nursing home. Even the one that was in a nursing home, no one talked to them, no one changed their beds, leave them in bed sores, even put on their charts \u2013 like Marceline [Jones] told you \u2013 to do nothing to keep them alive. Soon it\u2019ll be, kill them off like the doctor did, killing five patients off with injections so he could have the beds for his hospital that he owned for rich paying guests. We need to know that. We need to know The Battle of Algiers<\/i> which gives us the important message of how you have to discipline yourself, as our Prime Minister [Forbes Burnham] is saying here to organize ourselves, clean up corruption and self-indulgence. You see even the children making the drunks behave, even beating them to get them to their senses and the elimination of the criminal element when they will not repent and reform. And then you go on to watch how they organize so brilliantly, and how they re\u2013 withstand all kinds<\/i> of pressures in a racist society where they\u2019re not allowed to go into the white sector in Algiers, which has been a haven for many black people who\u2019ve had to flee the country to avoid being in the gas chamber or life imprisonment. Then you need to look very, very closely at Z<\/i>, where democracy was corrupted, even a better form of democracy than USA, and how it was taken over and how the police do things and the press lies and all the intrigue. When the press brought out a little of it, too much. Fortunately at Watergate, for the capitalists, not too much got out so they could go on with their pretense. But when it got out, their<\/i> Watergate, you saw the bloody military dictatorship come over the land and kill off the people that had dared to ask questions, throw them out of seven floor ware\u2013 buildings, crush them in planned ac\u2013 car accidents, throw them off to drown and other forms of bestial, inhumane tortures in prison. Those are some of the things that are required, that you have those films. You should know about Malcolm [X] and see how futile it is in USA, how the system destroyed him when he was talking for uh, the people to unite against racist oppression and to help our brothers and sisters in Africa to get out from under the boot of colonialism. We must<\/i> know all of this and uh, know that this is vital. Recreation is important and we\u2019ll began at four, four to six with interpreter. Try to have something of meat and substance once in a while other than just the comedies. That\u2019s also important. You children will watch things with substance, and you can interpret them to<\/i> the children. They need to develop feeling. They have recreation, treats, and joy, and should have a light-hearted comedy too, but something heavy once in a while. Then they have the light comedy and music of our band and orchestra and our comedians which will come on at about oh\u2013 ah\u2013 well, they begin at six o\u2019clock and uh, then they\u2019ll be through by eight, and we\u2019ll have the wonderful<\/i> movie State of Siege<\/i>. All\u2013 I want all to see that too, to understand it. It really happened, but it has tremendous drama. Thank you, and I love you very much obviously to talk to you with such a high temperature. You could know I care about giving you knowledge. Those who love you, want to give you information. Even Abraham Lincoln said, the people cannot be free unless you give them the facts, unless you give them knowledge, and I have given you the facts, and the truth will make you free. Thank you and I love you so much. Continue working around your homes, planting where you can. You can do that while you\u2019re listening to the news. Do little things, cleaning up, because we have guests coming. See that there\u2019s nothing setting out on the porches, shoes not deteriorating. See that the park areas are cleaned up, the benches properly s\u2013 set and\u2013 Please<\/i> help me, I\u2019ve had to go around picking up scrap pieces of paper where people just cut \u2018em up in little pieces on\u2013<\/p>\n

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Jones:<\/b> Attention. We want to keep a clean<\/i> community, so that we can have more<\/i> money to help with our beautiful Guyanese neighbors. It is so costly, our free medical clinic. So costly, our doctors and medical services and the medical supplies to give them away free. You alone, you will not have as much recreation nor will you have as much medical care, unless you learn how to save and come up with creative ideas like I just mentioned with comrade [Tom] Grubbs who found a way to save our cutlasses [beans] by pro\u2013 we\u2019re having improper filing, and I want the administrators to implement that training immediately. It could cut the cost at least by one-third<\/i> and then the making of the those janitorial brushes, brooms, and the domestic brooms which could help immensely, because Guyana, our beloved Guyana, sells<\/i> brooms abroad. And we need to get on with the cup-making through ah, pottery-making, you know, all these resources available. Use your time. The worst thing Guyana said\u2013 our prime minister said that we have to deal with, is that people will not work as much for the collective, even though they get more benefits<\/i> than they would for their own individual selfish interest. So let\u2019s be more interested in recrea\u2013 (voice trails off) in work<\/i> for the liberation<\/i> of our people who do required\u2013 and our beautiful neighbors who we said in\u2013 Guyanese neighbors from Port Kaituma, Matthews Ridge. We sent a lady in this week who would\u2019ve died of cancer<\/i>, if we hadn\u2019t caught it in time. We saved another one\u2013 Guyanese lady\u2019s life who came with her baby, had a good healthy baby but she was in shock and her heart was ins\u2013 it was in fibrillation, stopping, she would\u2019ve died. Not to mention the miracle that came when I came in and a little baby, a great seed that was blocking the breathing came out of that lovely Fraser family who was the railroad\u2013 the railway engineer. And many, many children<\/i> have been saved and adopted that\u2019ve been taken in, and we have many Guyanese with us and have had them for weeks at a time while they recuperate. We want to be able to be of service to the entire northwest region and bring our people to freedom before it\u2019s too late in the racist environment which they live. So I thank you for your assistance in picking up all<\/i> things. Don\u2019t<\/i> waste paper. Use both sides. Please be careful to save. Don\u2019t<\/i> brush by the blackboards, because it\u2019s a lot of work that the librarian puts into it, then you make it impossible for people to read. So study well for those that get\u2013 you get special bonuses, remember, for those that do well, and many, many in the community are doing excellent and excellent plus. They get special bonuses of time off and other rewards, travel, special candies, pastries, so forth and so on. Thank you very much. Children\u2019s program, movies begin at four, the band and entertainment at six. Much love\u2013 and the movie then, a beautiful movie State of Siege<\/i> at about eight.<\/p>\n

(Tape off for several moments)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Attention, attention, attention, attention, attention. All people please stop for the moment.<\/p>\n

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Jones:<\/b> We have to have every typewriter that (unintelligible under radio interference) privately, that\u2019s not being used regularly so you have a typewriter that you use for your own note taking purpose. We need<\/i> them desperately to prepare for this uh, author and Hollywood, uh, that produced the Hollywood films, author of Executive Action <\/i>and uh, Parallax View<\/i> [Donald Freed]. We must, and we must have all typewriters repaired that are in a state of disrepair and then<\/i> we won\u2019t have enough. This is an emergency request.<\/p>\n

There is a more important news bulletin coming from Africa. The British Broadcasting Company observes and states, in spite of Britain being in the alliance of NATO, US imperialism. The statement is, Britain and United States is getting ready for some sort of military effort in Africa. They have had a (radio interference) total<\/i> failure in suppressing the struggle of the Zimbabwean people. (radio interference) Right now mercenaries are being secreted in to Rhodesia or Zimbabwe. It is 97 percent under the control of the rightful government, the people, the liberation\u2013 Zimbabwean Patriotic Liberation Front. Britain says it\u2019s obvious that they will have to do something. Three hundred and fifty US multinational corporations have interest there, 400 British multinational corporations, US and British combined. 400 West German, the capitalist portion of West Germany that is claimed to be the inheritor of Hitler\u2019s fascist Third Reich, 230 and a half million dollars is going out of there every six months to the west. They are now reporting that Cessna aircraft, Mirage bombers and helicopters, US made, are being used against the patriotic front, and there are reports that there are the presence of USA military aides in the same way that they began the conflict in Vietnam. This is foolhardy. They will not possibly succeed. Even though, according to the BBC, British parliament has approved the present policy, and USA has also approved the fascist policy in spite of British resistance and a number who spoke out, including its foreign secretary, Dr. [Lord David] Owen, who said that it was foolhardy to support a government obvlious\u2013 obviously racist, obviously unrepresentative of the people, obviously dictatorial as Ian Smith is real\u2013 of Rhodesia and totally<\/i> in disfavor with Africa. Dr. Owen, foreign secretary of Britain, said that we would lose<\/i> Africa\u2019s respect and alliance totally<\/i> because the Organization for African Unity voted a total indictment of Rhodesia and a demand for liberation from the dreaded regime, illegal regime, of Ian Smith that\u2019s now being supported by military direct<\/i> aid and economic aid from USA and Britain, since last week when USA lifted its ban in Congress, both the House and the Senate.<\/p>\n

In Belgrade, Yugoslavia. Of course it was decided that Havana will be for the first time the host for all non-aligned nations and make plans for it from 1979 through 1982 when it is taking place. Somalia and the Egyptian attempts to invade Eritrea have failed. Ethiopians have driven them out with Soviet and Cuban aid. Kampuchea, nationalistic, though some form of domestic communism but highly prejudiced, carrying much ethnic prejudices against other people, tried to obstruct the Vietnamese in their shipping and it has failed. Kampuchea also has been driven back from Vietnamese borders. Creation of alliance for\u2013 of reactionary obstructionary tactics made in attempts to undermine the non-aligned movement, and Vietnam, who was exercising strong influence in Southeast Asia because of its aid and its model type of socialist government, says Radio Moscow. The Havana youth festival, 145 countries are now participating. The delegates thank Cuba for an organization that\u2013 for them and preparations and for the beauty of recreation, entertainment, education as they had never had before in any of the other youth festivals that have all<\/i> occurred\u2013 occurred in the socialist world in Europe. They assured solidarity with Cuba\u2019s demand to free Cuba from the USA economic blockade and a return of Guantanamo base to the Cuban people. They made other pledges, resolutions, for the independence of Africa, the\u2013 the dismantling and overthrow of the Union of South Africa\u2019s white racist apartheid government and Rhodesia\u2019s apartheid fascist government that doesn\u2019t even represent but three percent of the people. Cooperation double and stable, ovation thirty minutes long was given to the Cuban Communist party leader Dr. Fidel Castro. A strong and staunch stand was taken in anti-imperialist solidarity by the 145 youth delegations present from various\u2013 uh, the 145 nations of the world. In Africa, West actually started already to recolonize Africa, says Radio Moscow, and the Tanzanian paper headlines this, even though they\u2019ve had to fight IMF demands and a (Pause) presence of still multinational corporations because all their land is not nationalized as it has been here in Guyana. Says that US imperialist and her lackeys are trying to destabilize in Rhodesia, in Eritrea, in South Africa, and Angola. This is according to Radio Moscow. Radio Moscow said that the Organization for African Unity, African independent nations will not tolerate it and that the USSR and Cuba will continue to pledge support to any nation threatened\u2013 its sovereignty threatened.<\/p>\n

This is a emergency news bulletin that the USA and Britain have stepped up military aid and replacing mercenaries and even military aides, that they call aides, which are nothing but US troops, contingents of the Green Beret who are so cruel have been placed on<\/i> the soil of Rhodesia to hold up that tottering regime. They thought they could hold it up by equipping it with arms alone, but now it takes the presence of men just like Vietnam, because Vietnam, South Vietnam never was once wanting to be separated from North Vietnam, as you saw in Hearts and Minds<\/i> which must be seen by all. Thus ends the news bulletin. Unless you\u2019ll continue\u2013 you can go back to your music but they will continue with the rest of the news for those that are listening that wanted it played and asked for it to be played. Enjoy the music and entertainment followed by the movie at just abou\u2013 about eight o\u2019clock. Thank you so much.<\/p>\n

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Jones:<\/b> \u2013I know. Police association chairman Patrick Baxter calls for more humanizing of police work, more understanding of the various elements of society in carrying out the duties of law enforcement. Jamaica. Entering into, in this last few hours, they a\u2013 appear to be going bankrupt, but the Su\u2013 the United Soviet Socialist Republics have entered into a trade<\/i> agreement with them, increasing enormous supplies of fish which may, according to GBS [Guyana Broadcasting Studios], save that troubled socialist economy. That this time it\u2019ll be an imbalance. The Soviets will be practically giving them aid. Later they will look to the Jamaican country for pimentos and citrus. Belgrade agreement is coming to a wind up. Foreign Minister Rashleigh Jackson has stressed solidarity in a world of swift changes. The Third World must ally itself, he said, against being dominated by the major capitalist powers. Must secure accord amongst ourselves. Rashleigh Jackson defended the role of Cuba as a non-aligned nation because there were resolutions by Somalia and Kampuchea to try to put Cuba out of the non-aligned conference. Mozambique, white forces from Rhodesia have again raided villages, killing several women and children, according to the Guyana Broadcasting Studios. They decry this merciless actions of the Ian Smith regime that has now been bolstered by USA lifting their ban on military aid \u2013 which is criminal \u2013 and the British government. Also the mood has changed after the lie that was told that supposedly the patriotic front had killed 14 white missionaries, but even the Voice of America carried a report of Andrew Young [U.S. Ambassador to U.N.], his investigation of some weeks ago again in which he proved clearly that it was not\u2013 he did not go so far as to say it was a CIA, as the Soviet Union alleges, but Andrew Young, the black ambassador to the United Nations, who presently is facing hearings on his impeachment, stated unequivocally and clearly, that the investigation of his agency, of UN\u2013 Unite\u2013 his US agency has found that it was Ian Smith that murdered the 14. The Soviet says yes, with CIA a\u2013 aid. Ian Smith, the dictator of Rhodesia, the white racist who has ruled illegally for 11 years, did that. (Pause)<\/p>\n

This is, as far as I can see, generalizations and the best of the news. I can\u2019t see anything else that is of any particular value to mention now. There\u2019re a lot of little details. This is all bonus. Those who get it? Fine. And will appreciate it? Fine. If you can pass it, it gets extra bonus time, things that you<\/i> want in the community, because we want to reward knowledge. We want to praise people who achieve in every area. By the way, those who are making those poles, getting those poles in, Stephan [Jones] and (unintelligible, sounds like \u201cRyan, the\u201d) Dennis lad, and others, this is amazing that you have not only kept up the pace but excelled<\/i> it. Someone gave me this note, and I\u2019m very appreciative of that kind of progress. Because indeed if we don\u2019t build the roads, if we don\u2019t feed ourselves, our knowledge will all be in vain. But I\u2013 I\u2013 it\u2019s also fascinating to see that Stephan\u2019s group have their classes and do well. The Dennis lad has done well in his understanding. Though he was educationally-deprived, he has done very well in his<\/i> understanding of the news<\/i>. He\u2019s got a pretty good concept of the\u2013 the world as it is.<\/p>\n

Today, we\u2019ll give you some background on Canada, who is seeking a more independent course of action.<\/p>\n

By the way, I\u2019d like to say, people have to revolve to our Georgetown headquarters. One woman whose life we saved that\u2019s in one of our units now that was brought in three\u2013 three days ago, has been with us for three days, from Port Kaituma, has to go in. We have to have those to accompany her. We have others that\u2019ll be going in of our beautiful Guyanese neighbors, and we\u2019re going to have to have total<\/i> willingness to share from your department. Now, Comrade Grubbs, the principal, has been the most willing to share. And education is vital to all. But I get\u2013\u00a0Every time I want to change people\u2013 and people have to have the knowledge that they\u2019re going to be able to be changed. They don\u2019t like to be in the city. They want to be out here, in the beauty of Jonestown. They don\u2019t like<\/i> serving in the headquarters. In order to give them a six-weeks period, I have to have alternates, and I get red flags from some departments all the time, and someone wanted me to put Cardell Neal<\/i>. I cannot and will not. I\u2013 I made a request, I said the slate that I wanted. Now unless you can come up with some suggestion that will not<\/i> break into the educational department, I will not accept it. The administrators cannot accept it, because I don\u2019t interfere \u2013\u00a0I\u2019m not the government here \u2013\u00a0but it is ridiculous<\/i>. Twelve teachers have been taken for project works in medicine, and we need medicine. But also<\/i>, it seems that always we turn to agriculture. Take an agriculture worker. Let me tell you, agriculture worker have to be highly<\/i> qualified skill, the most intelligent people. If we don\u2019t eat<\/i>, there\u2019ll be no bodies<\/i> to take care of. If we don\u2019t produce enough food that we can take of ourselves, we\u2019ll have no<\/i> medical care to give to our beautiful neighbors, and this excellent medicine that we provide to everyone, the many lives that were saved, a Port Kaituma baby that was born beautifully healthily last week, a woman who would\u2019ve died two days ago from the port, all the marvelous miracles of medicine, would not be able to achie\u2013 be achieved without agriculture assistance. By the same token, we have to be educated. So I\u2019m af\u2013\u00a0I\u2019m afraid that we\u2019re going to have to break in to some departments that have considered themselves uh, resistant to any<\/i> of\u2013\u00a0any<\/i> request at all for your person to revolve<\/i>. I don\u2019t know what we\u2019re going to do<\/i> about this. You\u2019ll have to work about\u2013\u00a0work it out. But don\u2019t<\/i> come back with a suggestion to me that it will be Cardell Neal. The pub\u2013\u00a0The public school system cannot afford anymore right now. And that must remain that way. I\u2019m sorry to have to say that, but that\u2013 it must remain that way. So I put it in your hands. We have to know tomorrow, and there have to be people to revolve because our word is our word. Six weeks, and there are a number of people that have to come out tomorrow, and that means people going in.<\/p>\n

Canada. Canada forms the northern half of the North American continent, stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific, flanked by huge islands on either coast, and sharing a 3897-mile southern border with the USA. Canada also shares a border with the USA in Alaska, that was taken from the Soviet Union before it became a communist power. It was bought for seven million dollars from the czar. (Pause while taking a drink) Alaska, that is. The Saint Lawrence River Valley was the first part of the area to be explored by Europeans. Through the efforts of Samuel D. Champlain, the first permanent settlement in Canada was founded in 1608 at Quebec on the banks of the great river. Quebec is primarily French. They want their independence. They are very pro-Third World. They want to separate from Canada, and they have the most progressive province in the Canadian union. The words Canada comes from the Iroquois Indians. I-R-O-Q-U-O-I-S. From Kanata or Kanada \u2013 K-A-N-A-T-A or K-A-N-A-D-A \u2013 meaning \u201ca group of huts.\u201d The French had a more grandiose name for the colony: New France. Voltaire was not deceived. \u201cA few acres of snow,\u201d he called it derisively, \u201cwhere the people will be exploited by the rich of Europe in the name of Christianity.\u201d That\u2019s often been the case everywhere. In 1760, by which time there were 60,000 French settlers in Saint Lawrence Valley area, Britain, by conquest, by force of arms, conquered Canada. So the French had the first claim. That\u2019s probably why Quebec feels so strongly its right to independence and speaking French as it does, is demanding to be a separate state, a separate nation. The new leaders were content\u2013 or were content to leave the French undisturbed, preoccupied as they were with the rebellious colonies to the south. During the American Revolution, 40,000 to\u00a060,000 loyalists \u2013\u00a0people supporting the British Empire \u2013 moved<\/i> to Canada, especially to the upper Saint Lawrence region, in Ontario, confirming British control. But it brought about the independence of America, so America could build its own independent form of capitalism. Thereafter the independent nation of Canada evolved as a result of a mostly peaceful evolutionary process of political integration. In 1867, the British Parliament passed the British-North America Act, providing the provinces of Canada \u2013 Quebec, Ontario, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick \u2013 shall form one dominion under the name of Canada. Other British North American territories were included as provinces in the dominion later. Manitoba, 1870. British Columbia, 1871. Prince Edward Island, 1873. Alberta and Saskatchewan, 1905. Newfoundland, 1949. By 1931, when the British passed (Pause) the Statute of Westminister, Canada, was an inde\u2013\u00a0by that time, was an independent nation, a voluntary partner in the commonwealth of nations.<\/p>\n

Size? 3,851,809 square miles. Lots of miles. Second largest nation in the world. A country so vast that air mapping still discovers new northern frontiers. Population, 23 million. At first it would seem that they\u2019re in good stead. Mu\u2013 much of the land is not fertile, not usable for creating food, which is the most important thing that beautiful Guyana has, the ability to make all the food that its people and many outside of its country can use, by export. British descent form 44% of the 23 million. French, 27%. Other Europeans, 24%. Asians, Indians, Eskimos, and others are five<\/i> percent, and they don\u2019t fare well there. There\u2019s a lot of racism developing there. Many have moved out because of arson against their homes. For instance, in uh, Ontario, lots and lots of racism. Forty-seven\u2013\u00a045 and a half percent are Roman Catholic, 20.1% are the United Church of Canada, which is a merger of Methodists, Co\u2013 Congregationalist and Presbyterians. 13.2% are the Church of England, Anglican or Episcopalian. Church of England, as you know, King Henry formed because the Roman Catholic church would not approve of him taking on another wife. And so, he broke away and became the head of the\u2013\u00a0of a church for his own selfish purposes. 4.5% are Presbyterian that refuse to uh, merge. (Pause) 3.6% are Lutheran. 3.3% are Baptist. 9.6% are atheist or other small sects.<\/p>\n

Who rules? The head of state is Queen Elizabeth II. She told a Toronto audience on June 23 last year, \u201cI want the crown to be seen as a symbol.\u201d This is a statement of the reality of the situation. The queen is represent by Jules Leger, L-E-G-E-R, governor general, who took office in January 1974, appointed by the prime minister, who\u2019s Prime Minister [Pierre] Trudeau, who is really the head of the government. There\u2019s also a parliament consisting of a Senate and a House of Commons. But who<\/i> really rules Canada? A hot question in Canadian politics. That\u2019s why they\u2019re trying to get a more independent course. They want to be a part of the European Common Market. They\u2019re taking more independent stands against USA over fishing rights and even over their export of food now, and assistance, the seven million dollar loan, just today, to Guyana. Warnings have been sounded since the mid-1950\u2019s that the real power is vested in American monopoly capitalist corporations. There is no doubt, said this US almanac, there is no doubt of Canadian dependence on American capitalist markets and US monopoly capital manipulations. American investment fueled the boom in the Canadian economy after World War II. The branch plants of American companies proliferated. That means they spread all over Canada. In 1973, the USA took 68% of Canadian exports and supplied 71% of the imports, thus giving major control of Canada economically to the United States.<\/p>\n

Because of forbidding geography and weather, most of Canada is sparsely populated. More than two-thirds of the population live within 100 miles of the US border, and 90% live within 200 miles. The 40% of Canada\u2019s land mass lying above the sixtieth parallel is the most sparsely-settled land on earth after Antarctica, because it is not usable unless it\u2019s going to be for minerals. There are 16,000 Eskimos in the Arctic and sub-arctic regions. Once nomadic \u2013 that\u2019s means they roamed and hunted \u2013 with strong family ties, they are dependent now on trading post. The reservations have been broken up, like the Indians in USA. Initial contact with white traders brought severe health problems and domination for the Eskimos. In the early 1950\u2019s, one-seventh of the Eskimo\u2019s population had been destroyed by tuberculosis that they got from the white man.<\/p>\n

Canada has immense and varied resources. They\u2019re a major producer of barley, second among world producers. Of oats, second in the world. In wheat\u2013 its mineral resources made it the world\u2019s premiere, pri\u2013\u00a0primer, uh, the primary producer of both nickel and asbestos. However this year, this is changing. Some others are moving into the first in uh, wheat\u2013 And third in production of gold. Canada\u2019s forest reserves have made it the world\u2019s leading producer of newsprint. As recently as 1970, the Canadian career directory had 3268 listings of jobs open to men, with 1244 open to women. Sex-based wages are also common. There is sexism. However, now they face gross unemployment. That was 1970. There\u2019s now g\u2013 massive unemployment, massive inflation, not enough housing, the same problems that are plaguing all the capitalist countries.<\/p>\n

French-Canadians in Quebec have felt threatened by assimilation since the British c\u00ad\u2013 conquest by force of arms 200 years ago. During the quiet revolution of the 1960\u2019s, Quebec was transformed from a rural a\u2013\u00a0agrarian strongly traditional society to a modern urbanized state. The Front de Liberation of Quebec \u2013 the Front for Liberation of Quebec \u2013 responded with violent activities, called terrorism by the almanac, and urged French-Canadians to demand independence. French-Canadian Prime Minister Per\u2013\u00a0Pierre Trudeau lashed back with severely-repressive police actions, put them under a state of m\u2013 martial law, as any capitalist nation can do with one stroke of its leader or president. But it was not just a political movement, it was a social revolution, caused by indus\u2013\u00a0dustrialization and the impact of mass communication, especially television. This social revolution has led to a transformation in the image of a good life and a good society that most French-Canadians hold. Instead of a vision of self-sufficing farm families linked together by parish religious institutions asking only that the state protect them from outside influences, there has been substituted a basically urban model, one that resembles substantially that held by North Americans, from Texas to Toronto. And Quebec, after seeing what progress they have been denied through television\u2013\u00a0ever since that time, they have been in touch with the world. In that place, television was not harmful, and they have demanded, and are still demanding urgently, their independence. Their last election put in power a governor over Quebec who is a separatist, who wants Quebec to become an independent state.<\/p>\n

Thank you very much. This is all the news just for people who are interested in bonuses. Thank you. Much love.<\/p>\n

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Part 2<\/b><\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>\u2013recent Harris Survey of 2498 adults found that 90% considered terrorism a very serious world problem and 60% view it as a very serious<\/i> domestic problem. The survey found that the public favors decisive<\/i> and uh, even drastic measures of torture to deal<\/i> with terrorists. I would gather. 65% of the US public believes it\u2019s the right of some kind of a big police force to kill them right there on the spot without trial. By 89 to 5 percent, Americans would like to see each country develop special teams of commandos to capture terrorists while saving the hostages. By 79 to 11%, a majority would favor cutting off all<\/i> airline service to and from any country that allows terrorists to use it for its operations or gives refuge to political prisoners \u2013 yeah, that\u2019s lovely \u2013\u00a0or which gives refuge to terrorists in any way or assisted a terrorist in any way or lets them go free. Americans would support, 55 to 29%, the special world police force \u2013\u00a0of course, capitalist, they would be \u2013 of course, the participating nations would have to give up some of their own sovereignty, in order to allow the wo\u2013\u00a0the force to work effectively. But by 55 to 31%, people would favor a law providing that convicted terrorists (Pause) be given the death penalty summarily. 51 to 31% majority also favors countries that refuse to make any concessions to terrorists, even if this means people who are kidnapped or held hostage end up being killed by the terrorist. 51 to 31%, US population , don\u2019t believe in negotiating with the terrorist, the revolutionary, even if it means the whole airplane be killed. That shows you how alienated and uninvolved American people are with other people. They don\u2019t\u2013\u00a0can\u2019t identify that they might be in an airplane sometime being used as a hostage, so they\u2019re voting 51 to 31% that everybody should be killed rather than negotiate with any revolutionary. Americans blame a wide variety of causes for the growth of terrorism. 75\u2013 no, 78% feel that terrorist acts or revolutionary acts receive so much news coverage, that this encourages terrorists. 66% believe that the countries of the world have been too soft on revolutionaries, 70% feel that terrorism has always been the weapon used by radicals who feel the system is totally unjust, and thus they should be treated as harshly as possible. Yeah, 78% have no\u2013 no comprehension of people who are fighting for liberation, and they\u2019re opposed to them, believe they can be done with whatever the state decides.<\/p>\n

How serious a problem do you feel terrorism is in the world, where terrorists kidnap businessmen, hijack planes and commit other violence? Very serious, only somewhat serious or hardly serious at all. Ninety<\/i> percent plus of the United States population said it\u2019s very serious. How serious do you think terrorism is here in the United States? Very serious, only somewhat serious or hardly serious. Ninety<\/i> percent, very serious. Shit, they\u2019ve had no terrorism at all. You can imagine what a little bit of revolutionary activity in the United States would cause the American people to do. They\u2019d kill people and mob them and lynch them right in the streets. Acts of terrorism receive so much coverage in the news that this encourages terrorist revolutionaries to further acts of terror. Yes, 88% of the United States population believes that\u2019s true. Well, all of the questions are the same, right down the line. Terrorism has always been the weapons used by the left, radicals who feel the system is totally unjust (pause) and should be punished harshly. Yes, 86% of the American people say yes. Every country should develop special teams of commandoes who are expec\u2013\u00a0experts at capturing terrorists while (pause) doing what they can if necessary to save lives of hostages, but if not, go ahead and wipe out the terrorists. 80% of the American people believe that should be the case. Wipe out the hostages. (Pause) All airline services should be cut off to and from any country which allows revolutionaries to use that country as a base of training or operations or which gives refuge to terrorists or lets them go free. 89% of the American people believe that\u2019s right. All airline service should be cut off from such nations, a few nations like Libya that help uh, give revolutionaries asylum and so forth, uh, they don\u2019t believe in the right of asylum, which is a generally held sacred uh, law in this country, the right of asylum. If someone from Venezuela were to flee into Guyana right now because of political persecutions or because of acts against the state, it\u2019s a historic precedent in this wo\u2013\u00a0part of the world that the nation gives them asylum whether they agree with their acts or not, that they give them a new home and a place to live. Not in the United States. That\u2019s not the attitude. Special world force should be organized which would operate [in] any country in the world and which would investigate terrorist groups and have power over all police, sheriff departments, and be able to arrest and put them on trial and execute any member right there, to death. Hmm. (unintelligible word) shoot them to death. Well, I don\u2019t know how you execute anybody else any other way. 65% favor that. All those caught committing acts of terror should be convicted and given the death penalty. Yes. 85%. Countries should refuse to make any concessions to terrorists, not even negotiate, pay ransom or free other terrorists from prisoners or\u2013 or revolutionaries, even if this means all<\/i> the people who are kidnapped or held hostage end up being killed by the terrorists. Yes, 75% agree that\u2019s the case. That\u2019s the lovely American people that some of you want to get back\u2013\u00a0Is it worth to get back with them? Is it worth to be back where they are, and uh, take the risk for your McDonald hamburger that you\u2019re going to get\u2013 meet one of those sons-a-bitches that have no conscience that are walking around like a robot without feeling. I really would think about it, if I were you. (Pause)<\/p>\n

(Reads) Washington Post<\/i>. Federal prosecutors quit in row\u2013 in row over FBI. Five Justice Department lawyers, investigative prosecutors, quit in investigation into the alleged illegal FBI activities, because Attorney General Griffith [Griffin] Bell refused to move quickly to seek any indictments. A Justice Department spokesman said the lawyers, who comprised a\u2013 a Task Force that has been gathering evidence for 28 months against a former supervisor of the FBI\u2019s New York offices who had been guilty of all kinds of criminal acts, asked to be relieved of their duties because of the clash, with Bell who refuses<\/i> to do anything to bring down an indictment against these treacherous criminals that were working as FBI supervisors. Bell yesterday characterized the dispute as a disagreement in principle. He told a luncheon that the Task Force for some time had sought additional indictments against FBI officials. But he said for now, he wants to limit the investigation \u2013\u00a0of course<\/i>, he does, because it might cause some of the FBI to talk about the assassinations of our presidents and other things that\u2019ve been done against the American people. So the attorney general of the United States is going to limit<\/i> the investigation to the case involving John Kearney, former supervisor of the FBI New York office, but he is still dragging his feet on that case. Kearney was indicted last April on charges of conspiracy, illegal wiretapping, opening of people mail\u2013 uh, the opening people\u2019s mail, in connection with the alleged surveillance of the radical Weatherground Underground. Also, employing force<\/i> and violence against members of radical groups. The people doing the investigating through their\u2013 should be further\u2013\u00a0uh, the people doing the\u2013 during\u2013\u00a0doing the investigating thought there should be much<\/i> further investigation and much more indictments brought. And the Attorney General wanted to proceed another way and try the Kearney case, explained debart\u2013 department spokesman Robert Ha\u2013\u00a0Havil. There was a disagreement, Havil said, so the five prosecutors, people in the Justice Department asked to be relieved, and the attorney general agreed with that. It\u2019s pretty bad when people who\u2019ve sold out enough to become prosecutors in the federal government, in the attorney general\u2019s office of the United States find the uh, fascist course, the neo-reactionary fascist course, so disagreeable that they have to resign from their jobs. They were all white that resigned from their jobs, too. Kearney\u2019s trial had been expected to begin in mid-July, but the case has been bogged down in pretrial motions and postponements. (self-evident tone) Of course, of course, of course. That\u2019s the way the government does. (Reads) Last summer, Kearney\u2019s lawyers, Edward Bennett Williams, asked the court to open 25 years of FBI records in an apparent strategy to show that Kearney\u2019s actions were in line with general orders and procedures used by all<\/i> FBI agents and ordered by the FBI director. That is, the FBI director ordered conspiracy, illegal wiretapping, mail opening, violence<\/i>, surveillance of every type against those who were left in the country. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Phillip Agee, one of the few CIA agents in the United States to step forward to tell the truth, is a man that\u2019s haunted by the persecutors all over the world. That\u2019s what happens to anyone who takes a stand, as I have taken\u2013<\/p>\n

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Tape originally posted January 2006<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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