{"id":27379,"date":"2013-06-16T00:19:46","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:19:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27379"},"modified":"2020-01-02T16:45:13","modified_gmt":"2020-01-03T00:45:13","slug":"q216","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27379","title":{"rendered":"Q216 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Jones: <\/b>In (unintelligible word) People\u2019s Chronicle<\/i>, the largest newspaper in un\u2013 in Guyana, our beloved republic of Guyana, we have this information. Opposition now concedes that PNC \u2013 our party, the Peoples National Congress \u2013 under the leadership, the brave and avant garde leadership of Prime Minister Bor\u2013 uh, Forbes Burnham, is moving<\/i> in a right direction. (unintelligible word) blessing, say they, in\u2013 to people in rural areas, as land rer\u2013 re-distribution is being taking place. So we\u2019re glad to see that there is some points at least that the (Pause) two parties can find agreement.<\/p>\n

Chinese national music. The (pause) tune, \u201cEast Is Red,\u201d sent out by a Chinese first man-made earth satellite, launched in April 1970, was played on effective bell chime research in the 50\u2019s from a tomb in Hassan. In (unintelligible name) province. The national institution instrument went over\u2013 used over 2000 years ago, consists of a row of 13 bronze bells hung on a wooden frame and ranged (pause) according to s\u2013 to pitch. It is played by sinking in the beat\u2013 of the bells with a wooden banner and\u2013 hammer. The bella\u2013 bell chime is now preserved in the Palace Mu\u2013 Museum in Peking. China has tradition in which (pause) the music that li\u2013 goes back to ancient times. Ancient musical instruments and surplus in\u2013 insectify\u2013 in\u2013 in\u2013 (Pause) inscribed on oral (Pause) torture [tortoise] shells and (unintelligible phrase). Shells and bones unearthed in the virtue of the dynasty in Hassan [phonetic] Province have con\u2013 provided evidence and twelve types of instruments organized over three thousand years ago. The number increased to (pause) eighty during the period from the eleventh and the second century B.C. (Pause) Now it has increased to hundreds, showing the progressive nature domestic Chinese Communism.<\/p>\n

WPK general staff of the Korean Revolution. The Workers Party of Korea, the DEPK\u2013 RK, that beautiful, practical, lovely co\u2013 country that we saw on our TV station, where all the te\u2013 children eat rice as a staple food, and how healthy they look, and how vigorously happy, enthusiasm on all their faces, it would be good if Marceline could have that set up in her<\/i> room so she could see it. Nothing would warm the heart more than the joy that was in the faces of the Korean people. Anyway, the workers party of uh\u2013 Korea is a party founded, led by President Kim Il-sung, the gram [grand] and great leader of the revolution, is in the vanguard de\u2013 detachment of the Korean working class and other working or\u2013 uh, masses. The general staff of the Korean Revolution and the gui\u2013 guiding\u2013 regarding force of the Korean uh\u2013 (stumbles over words) (Pause) the guiding force of\u2013 as the guiding force of the Korean people. His revolutionary party of new type that has inherited the na\u2013 the glorious revolutionary tradition that built up to President Kim Il-sung during the\u2013 Il the\u2013 his long-drawn anti-reactionary and anti-Japanese (slight panting) struggle. And the (unintelligible name, said twice with different pronunciations) Party struggle and\u2013 for the co\u2013 complete victory of socialism in the northern half of the republican\u2013 the republic led by (Pause) the consultation (pause) of the (pause) re\u2013 reunification (Pause) and for the most part, the (slurs over words) reunification of how the\u2013 the word revolution came into being. It goes on in essence to say that the PNC backs wholeheartedly the doctrine of the DPRK, the Communist North Koreans, for reunification of their countries. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Minister of Education gets tremendous boost. History was created recently when this country \u2013 our beloved country of Guyana \u2013 first ever present dem\u2013 dem\u2013 first presented a patent de\u2013 democraza\u2013 democratization center, a new and a great innovation in nursery school education was permanent secretary in the military of education situated in Campbellville, and it is the first of three\u2013 such first of these\u2013 such countries to be set up. The under\u2013 the other two are erected (pause) in the\u2013 in some suit\u2013 suitable areas in the northwest region. They have set up one, you know, that they\u2019re trying a live-in basis in our own northwest region. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Advice has been given by the comrade commandeer, our dear friend, Co\u2013 Commander [Clarence] Price is always<\/i> getting a\u2013 getting us the uh\u2013 (pause) flights that we need, never failed yet, to always wear life belts in boats and planes when traveling. We\u2019ve never lost a life, said he in the commercial. Flights and ships um\u2013 but nonetheless, he said, he urged the flo\u2013 the use of flight belts which (slurs over words) (Pause) greatly ignored.<\/p>\n

They said you\u2019d have to bear with me, because I\u2019ve had very little sleep and I cannot hardly read some of my own notes.<\/p>\n

Marxist philosophy and scientific cognition. The sixteenth international congress of (pause) phi\u2013 philosophy in D\u00fcsseldorf, a West German city on the Rhine, more than fifteen hundred delegates, represented the\u2013 (slurs over words) community (Pause) of over sixty countries at the congress, along with mathematicians, physists [physicists], astronomists, biologists, psychologist, linguist, economist and representatives of other fields of knowledge from all over the world, both sides of the so-called alleged curtain. Discu\u2013 crediting the basic philosophical problems\u2013 They discussed<\/i> the basic problems of science and national life, and discredited much of the theories on which psychology is based on. The idea of doing your own thing, that\u2019s a healthy thing for your body. They discussed structure and what it means to people\u2019s lives. And we tend to agree with that. We have found our structure has eliminated drugs, the use of anything harmful, and has given complete elimination of crime and total peace in our social units. And we certainly agree with that.<\/p>\n

Political democracy and class dictatorship. This ma\u2013\u00a0This week\u2019s foreign focus is in Austria. The chairman of Communist Party of Austria deals with the problems of individual freedom, national freedom, for decades and has been the subject<\/i> of heated ideological and political debate, especially sharp is the past few weeks and with no signs of abating in the foreseeable future, for it is\u2013 it affects one of the most\u2013 it affects most to the\u2013 one of the international (Pause) development, the growth of the forces of democracy and socialism. As you remember, Austria was<\/i> once in the socialist orbit, but to avoid a nuclear wa\u2013 holocaust, when the Soviets and her allies were not able to withstand the onslaught of a nuclear war, Austria was given up in an (stumbles over words)\u2013 really in nothing more than in an atmosphere of intimidation. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Well, that pretty much covers the news of the Guyana scene. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Reports from the Dar-es-Salan\u2013 Dar-es-Salaam, Beirut, Nairobi, today are that heavy fighting is going on inside Uganda. Between loyalist troops and rebels and other fighting forces has broken out between Ugandan and Tanzanian troops. Tanzania, under President [Julius] Nyerere, has been a very devoted<\/i> socialist and a close friend of our prime minister, and has been the most forthright voice in Africa for liberation. Anyway, this dispute has broken out inside Tanzania. Heavy fighting involving tanks and fields guns is going on between loyalist groups and rebels. In Uganda near the Tanzanian border, there is no indication as to who has the upper hand in the fighting. Tanzania announced today\u2013 Tanzania announced that Uka\u2013 Ugandans had crossed the border yesterday in a provocative act, and that all<\/i> efforts were being made to meet this (unintelligible word). I hope I\u2019m reading slow enough for you to comprehend. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Cuba\u2019s Prime Minister, Dr. Fidel Castro, yesterday refused to link the withdrawal of Cuban troops from Africa with the process<\/i> of normalization of relations with the United States. He said, we are in Africa to defend<\/i> the people from oppression, from the l\u2013 imperialist bondage that has been centered in Washington for eons. And we are there to defend (pause) them from colonialism. And we combat it.<\/p>\n

The (unintelligible name) Marxist-Leninist movement in southwest Africa, in Algeria, (Pause) said today that its regions\u2013 its troops killed fifty Morocco soldiers in recent fighting. Moro\u2013 Morocco has no one comment on this crisis.<\/p>\n

The Arab Bank (pause) for commerce and development (Pause) \u2013 it has said the development in Africa \u2013 announced a four point four billion dollar loan to Zaire. The loss\u2013 the loan will be used for a public (unintelligible word; could be \u201ctravel\u201d) or development program, with the understanding that none of the profits will go to the Western world, because the Arab League has become intransigent against what the A\u2013 the USA is doing in the Near East.<\/p>\n

Strikes in Iran have halted all oil exports from the country. Basic to the country is ir\u2013 is oil. It\u2019s one of the oil rich nations of the world. Radio Iran reported today that the supplies to local re\u2013 oil refineries slight also\u2013 (Pause) said also be sa\u2013 uh, be cut off. The oil industry is Iran\u2019s major dollar earner, and the strikes could<\/i> throw the country into a total economic chaos and collapse. Twenty more deaths were reported. Ministers that resigned last week\u2013 the minister for justice and the minister for the (Pause) executive affairs. The Shah had one of the most secure dictatorships six months ago, by the admission of even the USA, any dictatorship on the world. But it\u2019s teetering and tottering today, as it\u2019s falling, crumbling, with protests throughout the entire area of\u2013 of Iran. Every major community has strikes.<\/p>\n

The Spanish Iran\u2013 The Spanish parliament today de\u2013 approved the new constitution to effectively stage the transition to democracy from the 40-year-old fascist dictatorship of the late Generalissimo [Francisco] Franco. (Pause) Heavily spread and reserves were posted in the nearby streets to guard against threats of guerilla attacks and stop the constitution of progress through Parliament.<\/p>\n

To move along a little faster: Par\u2013 Britain told the United Nations General Assembly yesterday that\u2013 that uh\u2013 (Pause) there was no<\/i> cause whatsoever to lift the trade sanctions against Rhodesia. The British representation said the international pressures should b\u2013 (pause) be kept up against Rhodesia. Thirty-one more people have died in the Palestinian\u2013 I mean the Rhodesian<\/i> struggle in the last twenty-f\u2013 hours, as a result of the (Pause) clashes between guerillas and white citizens, that many of which have been traced (Pause) and trained in New Mexico, who are actually a part of the U.S. military apparatus. (Pause) These 31 leaders do not count the casualties of civilians. These 31 leaders were members of the fighting force of the Zimbabwean Patriotic Front, which is indeed the leadership of the\u2013 (Pause) the country that white people call Rhodesia, but really is led by the Zimbabwean Patriotic Front, Joshua Nkomo, nationalist and Marxist-Leninist leader Robert Mugabe. (Pause)<\/p>\n

The president of Mozambique, who abstained from the meeting \u2013 [Samora] Machel uh, is his name \u2013 from the meeting of the front line states discussing their stra\u2013 strategies against their (Pause) common enemy. Rhodesia is saying that President Julius Nyerere of Tanzania, who is just returning from the meeting which was held in (Pause) Dar-es-Salaam (Pause) (Exhales) Nai\u2013 Nairobi.<\/p>\n

Informed sources in Peking today said that China\u2019s vice president, Kan Pao [phonetic], will pay a private visit to Somalia, following bitter attacks against the\u2013 against China from Ethiopian head of state and\u2013 and their allies. As you know, the Ethio\u2013 Ethiopian head of state is Menigestu [Mengistu Halle Mariam], who accused Peking of backing up the imperialist against the country. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Arab foreign ministers today formed a six-member committee to draw up a plan for this (Pause) Tuesday\u2019s\u2013 this Thursday\u2019s Somalian meeting, aimed at launching a joint offensive against Egypt-Israel peace plans. The demonstration is made up of Iraq-Syrian peace-keeping forces. The Palestinian Liberation Organization also. Jordan, Tunisia and Kuwai\u2013 Kuwait are also involved in the protest.<\/p>\n

Stand by.<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Nine thousand joined in sympathy. In a strong display of solidarity for staging unionist in the west coast paper mill industry, some nine thousand one hundred workers in other wood product plants in northwest struck<\/i> recently, demanding the companies meet the strikers\u2019 demands. The walkout at the 28 mills of the Big 6 paper company began on July seventh, when 28,000 members of the Association of Western Pulp and Paper Workers \u2013 AWPPW \u2013 struck, and overcome issues (Pause) pickets in plants of struck companies where members are represented by other unions and where (stumbles over words) that were not on the strike. The workers at about 40 plants refused to come to cross the picketing line to support the AWPPW. The more we\u2013 (unintelligible word) we always interpreted the union\u2013 (Pause) attempt to step up the peasants on the Big 6. (Pause) We\u2019re glad to hear there\u2019s more success in that strike, in the recent strike of the union\u2019s mineworkers strike, which was abominable, that the AFL-CIO, headed by George Meany, who has been, as you know, under the hire of CIA in trying to undermine this government many years ago, would not give any of their fat treasury of relief\u2013 food relief and any other aid to the striking miners, so out of desperation, after 115 days, the strike workers, the UAW in the United States were forced back to work in a condition that is indescrible. The three-by-five space that they have to come themselves into to get down in the mines, not to mention that silicosis kills them off at the average age of 44 years of age. Typical, typical, typical.<\/p>\n

But perhaps we shall see more of a labor arousal than we have seen in the past. We hope so anyway, because certainly labor is disorganized in United States, and even though we are socialist, you have to have a strong<\/i> communist party, a strong and independent socialist party, and strong trade unions that are free<\/i> from the machinations of big business, in order for democracy to continue. It\u2019s bound to be a return to the worst primitive forms of capitalism\u2013 actually, a return to the last stages of capitalism, neo-fascism. But now we have fascism in de jure\u2013 in de facto. It\u2013 We have fascism without really (Pause) open signs of it. Oh, we can see it when people ten\u2013 attempt to strike, like the pulp workers or the mine workers, they\u2019re threatened with the army. But it\u2019s still goes through the process<\/i> of saying how interested they are in the welfare of human rights. Everybody\u2019s human rights except those that are oppressed by fascist dictatorships<\/i>. We hear a lot about the four in um\u2013 uh\u2013 the USSR, and we\u2019re concerned about human rights everywhere. But it seems<\/i> that um, little is being said\u2013 little is being said at all about the human rights in the nations across the world that\u2019re in the capitalist (Pause) orbit.<\/p>\n

Black Panthers. Newton awaits sentencing. Black Panther Party \u2013 BWP \u2013 it\u2013 leader Huey P. Newton was convicted late last week in Ph\u2013 in Oakland of two<\/i> charges of possession of hanggun\u2013 uh, handgun, and acquitted of assault. Superior Court Judge Joseph Karnish [phonetic] immediately ordered Newton to Alameda County Jail to await the (Pause) sentencing on the gun charges of\u2013 of October 27. The charges stem from a 1974 incident, in a wo\u2013 in which Newton was accused of ple\u2013 pistol-whipping the tailor. The tailor however denied<\/i> this and refused to testify to Newton th\u2013 that Newton was the gu\u2013 out to get him. Immediately after Newton was first targeted for the beating, he f\u2013 fled the country to Cuba<\/i>. He returned in 1977 in the char\u2013 to face the charge, citing a changed political climate. Newton faces up to two years in jail for each charge. (Pause) I would doubt again, having met Huey Newton in Cuba personally, when it was illegal to travel there, when my family went there, we found him to be a very hospitable<\/i> host, and he was most dedicated and serious in reference to the rights of US citizens and his struggle for freedom, the international struggle for liberation. I doubt very much that he would pistol whip a old tailor, and ju\u2013 a senior tailor, just as much as I doubt that he, as popular a man as he would, would have to be out checking the scene of the nightlife and picking up a woman from the streets to have se\u2013 to have some sort of sex with. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Charles<\/i> Diggs\u2019 trial opens. Co\u2013 Co\u2013 Congressman Charles Diggs went on trial last week to charges of mail fraud and taking in kickbacks from the\u2013 from the staff. Diggs was in\u2013 He was a hit, certainly\u2013 in March, with a 35-count indi\u2013 indictment \u2013 which later turned out to be 37 \u2013 for a variety of financial (Pause) inconsistencies. Six<\/i> of the charges were dropped just before the trial of a Western\u2013 of a Wa\u2013 of a Washington D.C. (Pause) The federal court open September 27. The government has charged (pause) that Diggs sur\u2013 surly\u2013\u00a0sorely in debt, used a number of means in case (Pause) or to<\/i> case his hi\u2013 financial burdens\u2013 treasury testimony from their sources and from former s\u2013 Diggs employee Jean Stoltz [phonetic] who all uh, said she left in bias from his team last week, centered around the charge that Diggs raised the salary\u2013 uh, raised her salary and requested her to pay some<\/i> of the bills with the differences between the old salary and the new. Diggs has not denied that staff members substan\u2013 sometimes may\u2013 paid (Pause) the (Pause) bills or his bills (Pause) from the salaries sometimes paid the (pause) (stumbles over words) from the salary sometimes paid, but considered<\/i> and contends that the parties with\u2013 which have\u2013 have been trying to get his job, he contends that this represents the mispractice that had been legalized by the House of Representatives. His father<\/i> [Charles Diggs Sr.] went through similar proceedings many years ago. I\u2013 The trial will be decided by a jury of eleven blacks and one white. We shall see how it goes. He may have a chance with eleven blacks and ten whites not to get a um\u2013 (Pause) not to get a uh, heavy sentence. (Pause) Stand by.<\/p>\n

Certain\u2013 Chican is a small peasant community in the historic sacred valley of the Urubamba River, several hours drive from the former Incan capal\u2013 capital. If you are having trouble listening to this P.A., please let us know, we\u2019ve have a lot of trouble with it, and it goes on slow speed and high speed, and distorts the voice, so be sure that you uh, mention it to us. Anyway. Curicuzo [Cusco], high in the Andes, the region\u2019s outward security leaders (Pause) belies decades of violent strugger\u2013 struggle over\u2013 over the land<\/i>, including the present insurrection of the early 1960s. History was made as Char\u2013 Chican during August 27 through September, as the Peasant Confederation of Peru \u2013 CCP \u2013 held its fifth congressional uh, and achieved a merger with the National Agrarian Confederation. One of the few countries where we see the Maoist and the middle left and the Soviet left agreeing on points of liberation. And that of course is what it\u2019s going to take, if colonialism\u2019s boot is removed from the backs of the oppressed in Chile, in Peru, there is no other way. I\u2019m trying to read you some notes and scratches from other people, and so I hope that it\u2019s intelligible to you. The CNA was a\u2013 was once used as subversive bureaucracy created and controlled by the Peruvian military dictatorship. But as the power sectors of the peasantry were organized in recent years, under the militant leadership of the CCP and the CNA \u2013 also<\/i> because became radicalized and broke<\/i> with the bourgeo\u2013 ise regime on September 12, more than ten thousand peasants at Ciraco\u2013 Cirzaco\u2013 Cirsco\u2019s [Cusco] Plaza de Llamas to whi\u2013 witness the signing of the mer\u2013\u00a0of the merger government. I wish that people that make the notes would give the um, um, the news. (Stumbles over words) Someone is here to speak to me? Okay. Stand by for the news.<\/p>\n

End of tape<\/b><\/p>\n

Tape originally posted March 2008<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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