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(Note: <\/b>This tape was transcribed by Don Beck. The editors gratefully acknowledge his invaluable assistance.)<\/i><\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>As the insurrection in Nicaragua spreads with opposition to the government of President Anastasio Somoza almost universal, the strategic\u2013 uh, the strategy of the main forces involved has emerged clearly. The Sandinista;s National Liberation Front, the Frente \u2013 F-r-e-n-t-e (pause) S\u2013 (faintly) Stop. (Back to mike)<\/p>\n

\u2013the one we do<\/i> have are very deadly. They can cause your legs to rot clear off practically to the bone. And we have tigers out there. Our neighbors have been attacked with tigers. We never have had any problem. Perhaps it\u2019s because we share some food with them, maybe\u2013 maybe they understand our concern, but uh\u2013 there are too many, many hazards for you children to take it upon yourself to go into a jungle. The head of the engineer, (Pause) the head engineer in Guyana uh, Industry said that he went just in the jungle, thought he knew what he was doing and was lost for eight days without water. There\u2019s plenty of paths, there\u2019s roads where you walk where you want to go. You can walk to Kaituma. You can walk out and see enough of the world, but don\u2019t try to be pioneers. You will regret doing that, because somebody will lose their life if you don\u2019t stay out of those jungles, alone. In the first place, Vincent [Lopez], if you seriously want this job, you\u2019re going to have to decide on it right now<\/i>. You\u2019re going to have to decide on it right now<\/i>. Because the diversion flight will be here before too long and we have<\/i> to have an understanding what you want to do. We want you to do what you want to do. That\u2019s the last call. Thank you. (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Want to remind the adventurers and children who like to collect things\u2013 (Pause)<\/p>\n

As the insurrection of Nicaragua spreads with opposition to the government of President \u2013 or should we say dictator \u2013 Anastasio\u2013 Anasacio Somoza. Almost universally the strategy of the main force involved has emerged clearly. The Sandinista National Liberation Front, the Frente\u2013 F-r-e-n-t-e\u2013 the Frente believes that Nicaragua is experiencing the third stage of a popular revolution<\/i>, and many revolutionary authorities agree. Agusto, Augusto Cesar Sandenino [Sandino] who fought US-imposed government defining its\u2013 he\u2013 he fought the US-imposed government and\u2013 and occupying force, of four thousand eight hundred US-imp\u2013 posed soldiers<\/i> upon him. (Pause) Marines I\u2019m talking about, US Marines, until 1933. Defining its main goal in the stage\u2013 in this stage as getting rid<\/i> of Somoza and So\u2013 Somocismo, the empire the family has built up in over 40 years of rule, the Frente strategy is to help create a national insurrection. Democratic government, (Pause) including representati\u2013 representatives of all<\/i> the sectors that are participating in this anti-Somoza struggle. It is perhaps one of the most broadly unified front that\u2019s been seen, with the exception of Peru, where Trotskyites, Maoist and Muscovites have formed quite a coalition against the oppressive military regime. It\u2019s reportedly true that the similar type of unison had developed in Bolivia and<\/i> very strongly<\/i> so in Colombia. Colombia has such a bold hold on their lands<\/i> that they moved into the capital of Colombia \u2013 Bogot\u00e1 \u2013 and were able to find 18 informers to the secret police and hold a people\u2019s execution right in open daylight in Colombia and escape<\/i>. So revolution is in the wind. And we\u2019re mighty glad that it is.<\/p>\n

Anyway the Frente strategy is to help build up over forty years of rule. The Frente\u2019s strategy is to help create a national<\/i> insurrection to weaken the government and to replace it with a revolutionary democratic government, including representatives of all<\/i> the sectors that are participating the anti-Somoza struggle. The Frente encouraged the formalization of the broad opposition front which called the general strike of the first past two weeks. The boar\u2013 the broad front consists of 15 organizations, including conservative<\/i> \u2013 that\u2019s beautiful, but people who love liberty overlook their labels, including conservative, and if you will, communist parties. The main<\/i> confederation and the group called las doce \u2013 <\/i>the twelve \u2013 made up of lead\u2013 leading Nicaraguan political and professional figures close to the Sandinistas, the Frente has recognized publicly that it is not prepared to rule the country after Somoza leaves. But it is clearly<\/i> its aim to replace some of its members and la doce\u2013<\/i> las doce<\/i> in key position and any interim armed government in between. That means the Frente strategy which has been described in various communications. Stand by, there\u2019s a question. (Pause) (Under breath) Fucker.<\/p>\n

Frente strategy has been described in communiqu\u00e9s with interviews as reflected in the armed attacks on National Guard garrisons of the past year. In the taking of the national palace last month and the fighting in different cities where poorly-armed Sandinista sympathizers often held off National Guard troops for days. The moderate<\/i> opposition, the center, and center-left forces in the broad opposition front (Pause) gave grudging support to the Sandinistas\u2019 military actions. Some business leaders in the conservative party, for example, say they will accept Sandinista\u2019s representation in the interim government. Stand by, stand by. Another question. (Pause) (tape edit)<\/p>\n

(unintelligible word) Sorry for the many interruptions. But more conservative members of the front, including those who backed an arranged coup by National Guard officers late last month, fear the growing influence and power of the French and hope they can form a government without them. The assembly of the\u2013 for example, vetoed August 27\u2013 vetoed August 27\u2013 (Pause) to support the broad front in its general strike, (Pause) but attacked the Frente, saying it stood for violence, destruction and a denial<\/i> of the right to private property. Dictator Anastasio Somoza \u2013 who has been held up by nothing<\/i> in these past few days but military aid gotten to him clandestinely, that is secretly, through US multinational corporations \u2013 Somoza, whose family has ruled Nicaragua, Central America, largest country, since 1936, went on the offensive last week, hoping to stick it out until the 1881 [1981] election, when he said he would leave<\/i> the government in the hands of his son<\/i> [Anastasio Somoza Portocarrero] or a trusted associate. However, some observers claim Somoza is just trying to regain the initiative in order to negotiate a good deal for himself and his family before leaving the country. But Somoza says publicly, he thinks the opposition is too<\/i> divided internally to overthrow him. He is also counting on the business opposition to fold as the strike takes its toll in profits. Of interest, news has it just a few moments ago, that the entire northwest region is in charge of the people leading a rebellion against Somoza. As the strike takes toll in profits, Somoza thinks the business element will drop their interest, but he apparently isn\u2019t accurate yet. He has<\/i> taunted the opposition over its lack of unifying\u2013 of a unifying leader and a harp\u2013 and harps on Cold War themes to scare the more moderate members of the opposition and to get the US government \u2013 which is always easy to do \u2013 to give him military aid. He claims the Frente is suppor\u2013 is supplied by Cuba. Voice of America was so absolutely caught up in the Cold War frenzy that it said earlier, that all\u2013 it could<\/i> not be Nicaraguans in the Frente. We had them all killed ten years ago<\/i>. I would be slightly ashamed to admit that, if I were them. Which the Frente denies. The Frentes denies that there are Cubans. As of last week, Somoza still<\/i> had the loyalty of the National Guard, a loyalty based on special privileges and elitism. He officers them\u2013 offers the most poorly\u2013 (Pause) the most poor troops including the spoils of war. There\u2019s not much that they get, but it\u2019s better than the meager rations that the ordinary peasants have. Somoza\u2019s power and the broad opposition to it have roots deep in the past years of rule by the Somoza family and 66 years of close US involvement in Nicaraguan affairs. The US first intervened militarily in Nicaragua in 1912 to suppress a rebellion by liberals who sought some independence from US tutelage. In 1927 Sandinin\u2013 Sandino began his great and brave guerrilla war against the USA\u2019s im\u2013 fascist-imposed (Pause) government leading to the first victim\u2013 Vietnam-style intervention in US history. To defeat Sandino\u2019s army, the USA sent some four thousand eight hundred troops and used aerial bombings but failed to pacify the country. In 1933 the last troops withdrew, partly because of anti-intervention sentiment in the country which led to 1932 Senate vote to cut off funds for the intervention but they left in their place the National Guard, the nation\u2019s only police and army force, under the command of the current president\u2019s father, Anastasio Somoza Garcia. Since then the Somozas and their supporters, always<\/i> close to United States government, have used their great power to build lucrative \u2013 that means wealthy \u2013 personal empires. Though the family and his cohorts present\u2013 Through<\/i> tho\u2013 the family and his cohorts, means allies and so forth, President Somoza, who is said to be worth at least a billion dollars, owns outright uh, or controls the national airlines, at least<\/i> 30 to 35 % of the prime farmland of Nicaragua. What a crime. The people of the world will not tolerate this much longer. He owns the cement and meat-packing, metal-fabricating and concrete plants, the construction monopoly, he owns\u2013 he has an absolute monopoly on all<\/i> construction firms. He owns the newspaper and the TV station and a port called Puerto Somoza. Through his banking, insurance and investment companies, he controls much of the country\u2019s financial system. Somoza\u2019s profit profited enormously from the reconstruction following the 1972 earthquake which destroyed Managua, the capital of beautiful Nicaragua. The open graft of that period forced many businesses and<\/i> banking leaders into the opposition, since they felt squeezed<\/i> out of any kind of lucrative deals by the Somoza family.<\/p>\n

Lust is always the final enemy\u2013 final enemy that brings down capitalism. There is no unity in capitalism. It\u2019s not based on a philosophy of cooperation or sharing so there always is some capitalist gonna be more hungry for power and wealth than another, and consequently that is always the result. That is the contradictions of capitalism that sooner or later will bring it to its timely death.<\/p>\n

To keep this empire together against the people with a strong tradition of rebellion, symbolized by Sandino, Somoza built the seven thousand five hundred man National Guard who had been trained, according to reliable<\/i> reports, by USA aides, Green Beret, through the CIA. No doubt of it, no doubt of it. Anyway, these troops\u2013 three-quarters of the National Guard troops have been trained, as I said, by the United States. They know that. And they have been tor\u2013 trained well<\/i>. According to the International Bulletin<\/i>, they\u2019ve been trained well<\/i> in methods of torture. Makes our hearts ache when we think how much of our money went out to support this kind of devastating cruelty, and all the children that have been napalmed across the world, all of the horrible acts of torture that have been done in the name of our tax dollars.<\/p>\n

Anyway, as I was saying, they\u2019ve been trained in the USA including crack counter-insurgency troops who receive special training in the Panama Canal Zone, (Pause) although Panama is getting extremely more independent and is having quite a bit to say about what goes on in the Canal Zone. In recent years, these troops have carried out brutal<\/i> campaigns in the mountains of northern Nicaragua, killing hundreds of peasants in their search for Sandinistas. They\u2019ve put down rebellions in Malaya earlier this year, killing at least one hundred people and (pause to sound out word) Montegalpa last month where at least a hundred and fifty died, as a poorly-armed civilian rebel [force] fought troops armed with machine guns and supported by machine guns with helicopters above them. Gunships and also armed vehicles, all uh, purchased conveniently through the USA and<\/i> \u2013 this is one of the most striking things \u2013 the Catholic church hierarchy has aided in the past this kind of brutality by even us\u2013 using some of its church wealth. It has been reported of recent days though, that the younger priests of the Catholic church have denounced the Guard\u2019s brutality in these campaigns. Opposition leaders say that the National Guard and the US government are now Somoza\u2019s key sources of power. They hope for a split in the National Guard, since a clear-cut military victory is unlikely. Uh\u2013 yeah, unlikely. If this were Cuba<\/i> doing these kinds of irresponsible acts, if this was some socialist free territory committing these kinds of acts, we already would\u2019ve seen the US Marines. I remember so well how San\u2013 San Domingo, uh, the Dominican Republic wanted to have a liberal progressive democracy, but the US Marines moved in in a matter of hours<\/i> and stopped that. So we won\u2019t fall for that kind of baloney. Meanwhile the Carter Administration remains publicly committed to pursuing negotiations between the government and the responsible opposition forces, quote unquote. What are the responsible opposition forces? Naturally those that would encourage the free enterprise system. Most of the groups in the broad front say this amounts to supporting Somoza, since they refuse to negotiate with him on the grounds that he is not uh, trustworthy. Carter Administration policy towards the Somoza dread fascist regime has been, as one reporter for the Washington Post<\/i> put it, absolutely sickeningly schizophrenic, in the last past year, withholding and then giving aid, criticizing and then praising Somoza for his human rights practices. [U.S. President Jimmy] Carter should shut his mouth about anybody\u2019s<\/i> human rights practices, until he does something about the tens of thousands of political prisoners that our black ambassador to the United Nations, even Andrew Young, had the courage to say, existed. Opponents\u2013\u00a0opposition leaders say, top US policy-makers are reluctant to cut off all<\/i> support for Somoza, because they fear that chaos and an increase in the left\u2019s power will follow. But the administration is clearly hedging its bets. Last week, rumors circulated in Managua, the US\u2013\u00a0that US ambassador Mauricio Sola\u00fan (Pause) was holding secret meetings with opposition business and banking executives, to figure out what they could offer Somoza (Pause) as a compromise so that he could remain in power. I can\u2019t imagine how any civilized government would have the nerve to even attend the United Nations and talk about human dignity and human rights, and then follow such practices. (Pause)<\/p>\n

A little news about Bikini that might be of interest to you. Bikini \u2013 B-i-k-i-n-i \u2013 look it up on your map so you\u2019ll be fu\u2013 be familiar geographically. Bikini is a l\u2013 lovely little atoll, a little island in the Pacific. One hundred and forty residents of Bikini were removed<\/i> from the South Pacific island last month, their home for centuries<\/i>, for the second time in 32<\/i> years. They said they would not go, but they had little choice. Their island, its coconut palms and blue lagoon is contaminated beyond the danger r\u2013 level by radiation from US bomb testing, twenty years after United States used its first nuclear test, from 1946 to 1958. The people of Bikini were removed from their homes in 1946. (Tape edit)<\/p>\n

French nuclear deal off. In what is being described as a victory for President Carter non-proliferation policy, France has withdrawn plans to sell nuclear processing plants to Pakistan. The decision was announced by Pakistan (Pause) just yesterday. France had been trying for a year to change its contract signed in 1976 by offering Pakistan a co\u2013 (Pause) coprocessing plant instead of reprocessing facility. Both would take (Pause) spent fuel and turn it into fuel that could be used again\u2013 again in a nuclear power plant. The difference is that the pro\u2013 un\u2013\u00a0the reprocessing plant would (Pause) produce plutonium, and in a separate from\u2013 form usable for building nuclear weapons. Pakistan refused to accept the coprocessing (Pause) facility, a fact which had led many to believe that the Pakistanis were indeed seeking plutonium. You\u2019ll have to excuse me, I was up all night, and I haven\u2019t gotten any rest yet, so I sound, I imagine, more<\/i> than a little froggy. Anyway, they refused<\/i> because they were seeking a\u2013\u00a0a bomb that would produce plutonium for use in building a bomb (pause) in 1974 to catch up with their rival, India, which exploded a bomb, as you remember, in 1974. Now that the reprocessing deal is off, the USA says it hopes to sign a new<\/i> agreement\u2013 new aid agreement with Pakistan in effort to show displeasure over the French deal. The USA last fall had put under play\u2013 under (Pause) review all<\/i> but food and agricultural aid to Pakistan. However, rumor has it that the French are still working underhandedly and beneath the table to be able to supply Pakistan with the kind of equipment she needs to build a nuclear bomb.<\/p>\n

Naturally, one doesn\u2019t have to have the intelligence of a moron to realize that, as you find more and more nations plagued with food, drought, monsoons, all kinds of malnutrition, that when you get that many weapons, someone<\/i> is bound to make a mistake. It\u2019s as inevitable as the sun rises. We remember the young man that spoke to us who had been an assistant commander, uh, in the Polaris submarine. There were sixteen, I believe, missiles on that submarine, and every month, he said, like robots, they went through the test. The only thing that would prove to them that it wasn\u2019t a real happening was<\/i> that the captain<\/i> had to turn a last key. That day he happened to look up, and the captain started to turn the key, and after much fighting \u2013\u00a0which was very difficult to stop the captain \u2013 they got it stopped just short of the captain firing the key\u2013 turning the key that would have sent sixteen missiles throughout the world and thus started the holocaust. Sometimes I think humans have less intelligence than monkeys even\u2013 Even if monkeys were given nitroglycerin to play with, I don\u2019t think they would do it with as much glee.<\/p>\n

Anyway, France\u2019s decision is expected to put a new pressure on West Germany which has ran into conflict with the Carter Administration over plans to a\u2013 supply Brazil with nuclear reactions\u2013 reactors and a reprocessing plant. In light of that, 98 of the world\u2019s leading scientists\u2013 No. Of the leading scientists of the world, 98.7 [percent] said nuclear war would happen in the 1980\u2019s. Not very promising kind of information. Even though we have an area where there\u2019s (Pause) food in abundance and no sign of radiation from the Geiger counters, no one likes to think about living in such a world.<\/p>\n

A sea of oil. Mexico\u2019s President Jos\u00e9\u2013 Jos\u00e9 Lopez Portillo announced in state of the union address that Mexico has proven oil reserves of 20 billion barrels and potential oil reserves totaling two\u2013 200 billion barrels. If the estimate turns out to be correct, Mexico could replace Saudi Arabia as the world\u2019s most important oil-producing country. In recent months, PEMEX, the state oil company, has continued to make dramatic new discoveries of oil, what The Los Angeles Times<\/i> calls a sea of oil a half mile deep and 200 square miles in expanse seems to lie under southeastern Mexico. In this area, a high 63% of the exploratory wells are striking oil. Meanwhile production is raising and is rising rapidly. In 1976, Mexico was producing an average of 894,000 barrels a day and exposing\u2013 uh, exporting rather, nine hun\u2013 94,000. Mexico\u2019s now pumping 1,400,000 barrels a day and exporting more than 200,000. Bravo to them. Income from the exports will total two billion this year. Let\u2019s hope they can keep from having to be under the finger of Yan\u2013 Yankee imperialist refinery processes. Double last year\u2019s. And PEMEX says exports could bring eleven and a half billion dollars by 1985. Eighty percent of Mexico\u2019s oil is exported \u2013 nah, yeah, that\u2019s the catch \u2013 to the United States. The rest goes mainly to Israel. But the government is trying to diversify markets by increasing sales to, of all places, Cuba<\/i>. Good. Bravo.<\/p>\n

Meanwhile, the debate continues in Mexico over how to make use of the oil to solve economic problems. And even in Washington, there is a skeptica\u2013 skepticism that oil will make a difference. Mexico\u2019s income dis\u2013 distribution ranks among the most unequal in the world, and unemployment reaches as high as 50% in some areas. There is no<\/i> way that oil \u2013 its extraction, its refinement, uh\u2013 or its marketing \u2013 will improve employment in Mexico, a State Department economist told the Wall Street journalist, adding giving\u2013 given the way Mexico is organized, the oil boom could worsen the income distribution. Certainly it will, until some form of socialism develops. We all know about that. We see that in the Somoza regime.<\/p>\n

A little more news and then we will quit. (Pause) (off mike) Yeah. (back to mike)<\/p>\n

Chairman Hua confers with the Shah of Iran. Tehran was carefully chosen for Chinese communist party Chairman Hua Kuo-fenj itinerary, although no hint<\/i> was given to the press until the Chinese leader left for Romania that Yugoslavia and\u2013 Yugoslavia rather\u2013 that he would also travel to Iran, the first non-communist state selected for a visit by this international China\u2013 uh, international communist. Ha, ha. Chairman of the People\u2019s Republic of China. Because Shah of Iran [Mohammed Reza Pahlavi] was a US ally and strategically located between the Soviet Union\u2019s southern border and the oil-rich Persian Gulf. Although no<\/i> joint communiqu\u00e9 was issued when Hua left Tehran September in the first week after a four-day visit, it was assumed that the two leaders discussed their parallel interest in ca\u2013 countering public\u2013 in countering Soviet influence in the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean region. In public, however, Hua toned down the anti-Soviet rhetoric from his previous stops in Belgrade and Bucharest, apparently at the request of the Shah, who does not\u2013 does brisk trade with the Soviets and Eastern Europeans and does not want in any<\/i> way \u2013 he absolutely does not want in any<\/i> way \u2013 to have uh, any antagonism from his powerful northern Soviet neighbor. Chairman Hua\u2019s visit nevertheless bolstered the Shah\u2019s domestic and international prestige at a time of growing internal opposition to his rule. Thousands were rebelling against the dictatorship of the bloody Shah throughout nearly every village of Iran. The Shah\u2019s opponents even held a major demonstration of some 25,000 people with\u2013 (emphatic) within a mile\u2013 (Pause) yes, within a mile of Chairman Hua\u2019s residence, hoping the Chinese leader would witness the violent confrontation, but Chairman Hua avoided the demonstrations in the capital and canceled plans to see the crown jewels and a royal museu\u2013 museum for security reasons. It\u2019s hard to see how \u2013 as much as we understand the chauvinism, the pain, the opium war, the Boxer rebellions \u2013 that how in the nuclear age, a communist nation with such power, such technology\u2013 they build underground cities, complexes that can save, according to most estimates, 700 million of their people, and the Soviets have done the same, built humane shelters as well as Sweden a social democracy. It\u2019s hard\u2013 (Tape speeds to distortion, then stops)<\/p>\n

\u2013tention. We\u2019ll continue the news knowing that often Lope [Vincent Lopez] goes out wandering about. We\u2019ll remain just optimistic about his adventuring patterns.<\/p>\n

Hua\u2013 Chairman Hua confers with Shah. Tehran was carefully chosen for Chinese communist\u2013 Tehra wa\u2013 Tehran was carefully chosen for the Communist Chinese party Chairman Hua Kuo-fenj. His itinerary, although no hint was given to the press until the Chinese leader left for Romania and Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia is a non-aligned communist na\u2013 nation, as you are familiar, and Romania is a Warsaw Pact member, but it follows a more individualistic course<\/i>. For instance, it recognizes the state of Israel. Anyway, he left for Romania and Yugoslavia. That\u2019s when he announced it after that, that he would also travel to Iran, the first non-communist state selected for a visit by a Chinese party chairman was a US ally, strategically located between the Soviet Union\u2019s southern border and the oil-rich Persian gulf. Although no joint communiqu\u00e9 was issued when Hua left September last week after a four day-visit, it was assumed<\/i> that the two leaders discussed their parallel interest in countering Soviet influence in the Persian Gulf \u2013 I\u2019m going over this again because some said they didn\u2019t get it \u2013 and Indian Ocean region. In public<\/i>, however, Chairman Hua toned down his anti-Soviet rhetoric from his previous stops in Belgrade, Yugoslavia and Bucharest, Romania, apparently at the request of the Shah who does brisk<\/i> trade with the Soviets and Eastern Europeans, and does not want to excessively antagonize his powerful northern neighbors. Hua\u2019s visit nevertheless bolstered the Shah\u2019s domestic and international prestige at a time of growing internal opposition to his rule. The Shah\u2019s opponents are myriad \u2013 many \u2013 all over the world, even ten\u2013 even 20,000 held a major demonstration with just a\u2013\u00a0within a mile of Hua\u2019s residence, hoping the Chinese leader would witness the violent confrontation, but Hua avoided seeing reality, as it seems the Chinese have chosen to do in foreign policy matters. Demonstrated\u2013 But Hua avoided dem\u2013 the demonstration in the capital and canceled plans to see the crown jewels and a royal museum, uh, that\u2013 because of security reasons.<\/p>\n

In another major diplomatic move demonstrating China\u2019s flexible foreign policy, Peking may be about to settle its 17-year-old border dispute with India, as a prelude to full normalization with New Delhi. A leading member of the Indian parliament and of the ruling Janata Party, Subramanian\u2013 parliament, Subramanian S\u2013 Swamy told reporters in Peking last week that high Chinese officials told him China is preparing to reach a settlement of the dispute. Swamy said the breakthrough, which came during a visit of Peking next month by\u2013 might come during a visit of Peking next month by Indian foreign minister [Atal Bihari] Vajpayee. We have to say in all fairness that China certainly has been a great aid to the liberation of Guyana. She has given aid, according to a cabinet minister friend that we\u2019ve spoken to, without any strings attached. She has given brave support uh, to Mozambique in their war with imperialism and even crossed USA in doing so. She has done the same in Zambia. She has also assisted bravely<\/i> the North Koreans in their just demand for reunification.<\/p>\n

China has a Doctrine of Three Worlds<\/a>, and unfortunately the nuclear age does not have time for us to pass through it, according to many theorists at least. China considers the USSR and the USA to be the First<\/i> World. They consider the most dangerous of the two to be the USSR. Critics say they take their statistics on CIA figures which does not give a representative analysis. Anyway, they point out that there are double<\/i> the fighting force in the Soviet Union than there is in the USA. Also being a monolithic structure, China says that the Soviets can have more solidarity. However, one thing they do not regard, according [to] some critics B\u2013 from BBC, is that half of the Soviet army are engaged in health services. Nonetheless<\/i>, that\u2019s her doctrine. And the Second<\/i> World includes the major industrial nations of the earth, including Japan, and her purpose is to woo as many of those away from the superpower from the hegemony that is obvious that USSR and USSA\u2013 USA have great power in the world. So China sees herself as the leader<\/i> of the Third World, and she is doing all<\/i> she can to form trade relations, even some that are not acceptable to some of the capitalist NATO alliance. Anything to build up more<\/i> strength for China and more strength for the Third World. Also China\u2019s doctrine, as you know, is based on the inevitability \u2013 that means the absolute certainty \u2013 of nuclear war. It\u2019s China\u2019s feeling that one must<\/i> get it over with. China has hundreds of miles of complexes of underground cities for their people, and they feel that there is no way at this stage with the proliferation of weapons and the distrust between nations, that nuclear war can be avoided.<\/p>\n

A bit of decision at the White House. Pressure from within the administration from Senator Henry Jackson has led President Carter to back off his decision August 10 to approve sale to the Soviet Union of an electron beam welder. The welder is a part of a 144 million dollar deal for a drill bit factory made by Dresser Industries of Dallas. The White House announced last week that Carter had called the review of that decision to hear any new objections to the sale. Administration sources said that Carter\u2019s advisers were split three to two over the deal, with National Secretary Advisor [Zbigniew] Brzezinski, long known for his right-wing stands, Energy Secretary S\u2013 Sissinger [James Schlesinger] and Defense Secretary [Harold] Brown against the sale, and we all know their<\/i> backgrounds from Southeast Asia. They\u2019ve always been known as war hawks. The opponents\u2019 position was strengthened by the re\u2013 report of a Pentagon-appointed panel headed by Fred Busey, President of Texas Instruments, which recommended against the sale\u2013 (Pause) recommended at the end (Pause) of the sale last month that Busey pointed that the Dresser deal would vastly<\/i> improve the Soviet Unin\u2013 Union\u2019s capability to d\u2013 deep\u2013 to a drill deep oil wells through solid rock, thus aiding its economy, and that it would upgrade Soviet meta\u2013 metallurgical capabilities that would have military application, a claim reportedly disputed by Brown himself. But Carter<\/i> reversed himself again. He seems to be doing this more and more. Of course, as we have the good author [Mark Lane] in our midst today who wrote Rush to Judgment<\/i>, he probably knows<\/i> what happens to those high level like Senator [Robert F.] Kennedy, President [John F.] Kennedy, Malcolm [X] and Martin Luther King when they get out of step.<\/p>\n

Carter\u2019s reversed himself again. The White House announced September 6th\u2013 16 that Carter had decided to override the objections of some of his advisors and that the Busey panel a\u2013 (Pause) and the Busy panel and allow the Dresser deal to go through. The decision was announced as chief strategic arms limitation talk uh, SALT negotiator Paul Warnke arrived in Moscow for another round of talks. Carter has had made many of these decisions of late, because when they refused<\/i> to sell the computers<\/i> to uh, the Soviet Union, all he succeeded in doing was making the West Germans richer who already have a surplus uh, in\u2013 in their<\/i> banks because the Soviets uh, got the computer from France<\/i> and also some other banned items the French<\/i> sold. Those are the contradictions that sooner or later bring down the capitalist system. Only socialism will serve the people well. And only a\u2013 a socialism based on cooperation\u2013 we don\u2019t work, we don\u2019t eat, as the prime minister of our country [Forbes Burnham] recommends, a socialism that does not preach race, as the opposition did when they said apanjhat<\/i>. Vote your own kind. Only<\/i> such a courageous form of socialism is the answer to all<\/i> nations of the world and most particularly to the Third World.<\/p>\n

Thus ends the news and the commentary for the day. Thank you.<\/p>\n

End of tape<\/b><\/p>\n

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