{"id":27399,"date":"2013-06-16T00:19:56","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:19:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27399"},"modified":"2020-09-06T15:48:55","modified_gmt":"2020-09-06T22:48:55","slug":"q262","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27399","title":{"rendered":"Q262 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

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(Note: <\/strong>This tape was transcribed by Nicole Bissett. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/i><\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Now when it comes to feed and there\u2019s only so much food, it\u2019ll be us that they consider animals that don\u2019t get to feed. Now you say I\u2019m white, that don\u2019t make no difference, the miners were white, too (unintelligible word) (voice raises) but the system could not afford to give them what they wanted, and goddamn, it didn\u2019t make any difference if it\u2019s 300,000 of \u2018em or not, they didn\u2019t get it, did they? All they got was a goddamn bayonet right in their face, you go to work or we will put<\/em> you in jail!<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Or we will shoot<\/em> to kill. (Voice moderates, then rises throughout) Mother fuckers, I cannot live in a system like that. Say, well, this<\/em> government\u2019s not perfect. It hasn\u2019t got its troops<\/em> anywhere. They didn\u2019t killin\u2019 nobody. It\u2019s not sendin\u2019 no money to support blood and death in Africa, and it speaks up strongly and sends<\/em> money over there to help<\/em> Africa every day from the taxes here. Just sent 20 thousand last uh, week, a country that\u2019s struggling. No, no, no, no, no. You do any thinking<\/em>, you wouldn\u2019t want to go back there. If you\u2019re doing any feeling<\/em>, particularly, if you\u2019re doing any caring<\/em>, if you feel your blackness<\/em>, and your working-class consciousness<\/em>, you wouldn\u2019t think about going back there. You\u2019d rather eat shit<\/em> than go back there!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers and applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s the truth. That\u2019s the truth. Peace. And if this doesn\u2019t grab you tonight, if this doesn\u2019t move<\/em> you, and you still got those yearnings \u2013 but you gotta write that honest paper tomorrow, and I\u2019ll know whether it\u2019s honest or not \u2013 you better look at why you still<\/em> are not feelin\u2019 it, \u2018cause you are sick<\/em>, baby! But sick<\/em> people can get well. Malcolm [X] was sick<\/em> when he was sellin\u2019 black girls to white old lecherous bastards. He was sick<\/em> when he was pushin\u2019 dope on young black men and killin\u2019 \u2018em before their time, but he got himself straightened<\/em> around! It\u2019s not too late for you, but goddamnit, he\u2019da\u2013 if he\u2019d had the opportunity to hear someone like me, Malcolm woulda been a socialist long ago. Long ago, he\u2019da been a socialist. But he found a way, to at least be strong, just through what Elijah Mohammad, who was never<\/em> aware. At least he did have some race pride. That\u2019s more than some of our folk have these days.<\/p>\n

Well, it\u2019ll all rest for tomorrow, what are you gonna (unintelligible phrase), what else did you get out of that? Whether it\u2019s Jack Beam<\/em>, whether it\u2019s Charlie [Touchette], or an official coordinator, if they\u2019re up there talkin\u2019, you\u2019re supposed<\/em> to give them your eye. If the principal of the school [Tom Grubbs], no<\/em> matter who. We have to have some respect for socialistic<\/em> principle. It\u2019s not just a law and order thing, \u2018cause our leadership here represents principle. If they don\u2019t, we uproot them. You have that power. And if they\u2019re not uprooted, it\u2019s your fault. And I\u2019ll go as far as you want it to go. I\u2019ll deal with anybody you want to deal with.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Okay, son. Work on your test. And I don\u2019t wanna take people\u2019s\u2013 more people\u2019s time. Anybody have any questions so we can get\u2013 Remember, we have to listen to tonight\u2019s news commentary on my s\u2013 my speech.<\/p>\n

(Tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I had such ignorance that when people still got<\/em> here, they didn\u2019t even know what the hell socialism meant. They didn\u2019t even know\u2013 Today<\/em>, folk can\u2019t even spell it! (Pause) You<\/em> know what I\u2019m talkin\u2019 about. The other night, we had somebody up here that was still,<\/em> with all the political consciousness, and you that\u2019ve just arrived, you\u2019ll see how much more advanced we are. But with all<\/em> the advancements, somebody\u2013 I don\u2019t remember personal things, because socialists don\u2019t hold things against people, but there must have been something redeeming, but somebody got up here and said Marx \u2013 Karl Marx \u2013 was the second chapter of the Bible. They answered me that way. I said is that\u2013 is that what it is? They said yes. I<\/em> don\u2019t know who it was. But somebody did it right here, not more than a few days ago. Hm?<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Murmurs)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I think it was him<\/em>. It was\u2013 it was this kid<\/em> we just got up there. But now, uh, naturally<\/em> we\u2019re not gonna put up with that kind of foolishness out of people. If you co\u2013 if you were somebody that\u2019d been workin\u2019 hard like good old brother back there, who just hadn\u2019t been leadin\u2019 all\u2013 all time if he\u2013 if he would\u2013 if he leaned, it\u2019s be\u2013 it\u2019d be different<\/em>. But when you<\/em> de\u2013 can\u2019t even tell us that Karl Marx is not the second chapter of the Bible, by God, you better keep your eyeballs open, and glued!<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And don\u2019t be so damned arrogant to think that you\u2019re above authority, when you\u2019re so damn stupid<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And not dumb, but stupid<\/em>. When you\u2019re dumb, you can\u2019t do anything about it. But there ain\u2019t nobody that dumb here. And that<\/em> boy\u2019s not dumb, that young man not dumb. He picks up what he wants to pick up. So, we\u2019re all gonna have to pick up on certain principles, and keep attentive until we do. Anybody has any other comments before we leave. Be sure you get this all down by People\u2019s Rally tomorrow night. Don\u2019t count on there bein\u2019 an exam on the next<\/em> People\u2019s Rally, it very likely be tomorrow night. Yes?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Inaudible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Louder please.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Inaudible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I think he would\u2013 United States woulda been exposed for what it is<\/em>, a fascist, imperialist power. Now, you see, uh, Thomas Fleming, Tom Fleming wrote a good editorial about us last week, you know, and even after that lie\u2013 a bunch of lies of Debby [Layton Blakey]. But his message to me<\/em> is, this<\/em> time, more strong than ever, don\u2019t<\/em> come back here. He said come back, we need<\/em> you. He said don\u2019t<\/em> come back here, because fascism<\/em>, uh, dictatorship is absolute gonna come. It\u2019s gonna come. He put that article in us, they threatened that\u2013 that\u2013 that Sun Reporter<\/em> with boycotts, they threatened him with violence<\/em>, they threatened to burn the place down<\/em>, for puttin\u2019 that one true article about us. He wrote an editorial, and carried the white people that\u2019d been here and seen the beauty of the place, those white ministers, the superintendent [John V] Moore. And by God, they got all kinds<\/em> of threats for it! And I know what those\u2013 he<\/em> may not (small laugh) be intimidated by that, \u2018cause he\u2019s got a lot of guts<\/em>, but I know some other folk in that paper will be.<\/p>\n

Mm-hmm [yes]. Thomas Fleming, yeah, he was the co-founder<\/em> of the Sun-Reporter<\/em>, and the editor. He did the dirty work, while somebody else<\/em> got the millions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just barely makes a livin\u2019 wage, while some people talk socialism and become capitalist. I distrust sonsabitches like that, and I ain\u2019t gonna go no further, \u2018cause he\u2019ll probably wanna get over here sooner or later. (Pause) Yes, if you had any eye to listen, or see<\/em> and look, you\u2019d know.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Inaudible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Louder, please. (unintelligible word) (tape edit) Just exploiters all along. I been talking about the ruling class right along. And I woulda said if it was a Muslim, he was paid by the FBI to do<\/em> it. I\u2019da nailed it where it was, right then, and most<\/em> of us in here woulda nailed it, but Malcolm did not know and as much, and he wasn\u2019t as far along as we are, but we\u2019re not gonna knock that great dead man because of that<\/em>. It was different day, different time, different opportunities. But uh, no, hell, he was\u2013 he made a great<\/em> mistake, he\u2013 they sucked him into that bag, got \u2018em fightin\u2019 amongst each other. They took over the Muslims in the process, and killed him off. And put the man in there, they got him to believe in the lies about the old man. Or tellin\u2019 the truth<\/em>, whatever, it shouldna been out. What the hell is the difference if he had eighteen kids. That had nothin\u2019 to do<\/em> with the price of uh\u2013 of all the black pride that had been gen\u2013 engendered. And I never had a child yet<\/em> by foolishness, never, never! Always, everything I did with my body was for socialist purpose. But my dear beloved\u2013 Now you know all about it, don\u2019t worry, I\u2019ve got\u2013 you know who I\u2019ve got. I ain\u2019t got nobody runnin\u2019 around loose, \u2018cause I never fucked nobody out of the cause, and when I did, for money, to get money to save you, there sure wasn\u2019t no danger in any baby comin\u2019. \u2018Cause I took all the precautions in the world. Three and four rubbers. I know some of you are uncomfortable with that shit, because you don\u2019t see that as a revolutionary act. But that\u2019s easier to die on a cross<\/em>, child, I\u2019da rather died on a cross<\/em> than fuck that old white bitch down in South America, I\u2019d have rather died on a cross<\/em> than had to fuck her from sun-up till sun-down! I\u2019d rather died on a cross<\/em>. Dyin\u2019 on a cross is easy. That Jesus shit\u2019s easy. I\u2019d like<\/em> to die, when I have to face some of these things. We\u2019ve got a lot of folk in that camp right now, when they look at these irresponsible, uncaring, unfeeling, who don\u2019t uh, want to know anything, won\u2019t try to learn anything, and won\u2019t even be alert to listen<\/em>! Dyin\u2019<\/em>, shit, that\u2019s easy! Don\u2019t talk to me about dyin\u2019, I\u2019d die on a cross any\u2013 You want me to die on the cross, you can all put the nails in. That\u2019s easy<\/em>, \u2018cause it\u2019s over<\/em> with then! But it\u2019s this livin\u2019<\/em> shit, and goin\u2019 to bed with old white bitches, to raise money so that some of you could eat, when you were wastin\u2019 all your goddamn money! And you need to feel a lot of guilt and be pourin\u2019 it out, you new folk comin\u2019, all the money you wasted, all the money you didn\u2019t turn in, all the money you cheated this cause!<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We\u2019d have aplenty of housing. There would be two people to every house<\/em> if we had all that goddamn money!<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We wouldn\u2019t be behind in our housing program and everything else. It\u2019s because of that shit.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> Right!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Folks settin\u2019 right back there. I looked on uh, some of the lists. The main workers are carrying the burden, there folks settin\u2019 back there with checks, and you don\u2019t see twenty bucks over the month. I got the books. I got the figures on every one of \u2018em, I\u2019ve been readin\u2019 for the last five hours. Break<\/em> your heart. Making all kinds of money, and some way they throw it away. And a whole<\/em> lot of \u2018em got their ass ready to come, and they haven\u2019t paid a dime. (Pause) (Calms) Yes, I\u2019m tellin\u2019 ya. It\u2019s a long, long list. I won\u2019t take the time, but I\u2019ll prove it to you one night. Well, we got to decide about folk like that. But of course, you know it\u2019d be kinda hard if they\u2019d done anything at all, \u2018cause there\u2019s some of you<\/em> here didn\u2019t pay a dime!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cries out) Yeah.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> So it makes it di\u2013 kind of difficult, you know.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Like this young man, just up before me, you got\u2013 Not only you didn\u2019t give a dime, but you\u2019re out there robbin\u2019 cars and causin\u2019 me trouble. Getting\u2019 you out of trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. An hour ago, just (tape edit) just came in from W6 DVI. John D. Rockefeller [III]?<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s the\u2013 that\u2019s the richest of \u2018em all<\/em>. He\u2019s the bank<\/em> man. He\u2019s the man that had all<\/em> the money. You see, why don\u2019t you be a socialist and have a good conscience, because his white ass can be made gravy on a highway just like a black<\/em> ass.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers and applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I wouldn\u2019t feel safe if I were capitalist, \u2018cause if there was a few niggers like us back there, they\u2019d know his car, and know their life had nothin\u2019 more to give. It wouldn\u2019t be an accident. They say most of the accidents are not accidents anyway. Somebody just decides to commit suicide and crosses the line. So probably him in his Cadillac limousine brought somebody\u2019s attention, and they were tired of livin\u2019 and tiring of feelin\u2019 all the misery of US living, and I\u2019ll bet you your ass they aimed the car at him. Most of the accidents happen that way. Folk fed up, that\u2019s a good, quick way to die, like a bullet, run your fuckin\u2019 car into somebody else\u2019s. (Voice rises) And if I<\/em> was one of them gonna commit suicide\u2013 which is wrong, because you owe a debt to society, as long as black people are sufferin\u2019, you haven\u2019t got no right<\/em> to die and get out of your pain, \u2018till everybody<\/em> can be out of their<\/em> pain. But honey, if I were back there thinking like that, it\u2019d be hard for me to think, if I was going down the highway wantin\u2019 to commit suicide, I\u2019d sure pick me the whitest\u2013 and the blackest Cadillac, and the whitest ass inside of it!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2019m not sure. I might<\/em> pick me somebody like one of them religious sell-outs, too.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Jesse Jackson, yeah, that we found out was an agent for the FBI, and Lee\u2013 R\u2013 Roy Wilkins, the head of the NAACP, that cooperated with the NAACP, and intimidated and conspired to get [Martin Luther] King removed from office. Well, now if we were back there and said\u2013 and even clapped like that now, the police\u2019d all be in\u2013 in another eight hours and have us\u2013 our asses all arrested. They would.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2018Cause you\u2019re not supposed to clap<\/em> over Rockefeller. They cheer every night when some black person gets shot up\u2013 or Indian on cowboy shows and TV, but when John D. Rockefeller c\u2013 would die, you supposed to be respectful<\/em>. But honey, I somehow don\u2019t feel respectful.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers and applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He\u2019s the youngest Rockefeller and the meanest. (Pause) (unintelligible word)<\/p>\n

Woman in audience:<\/strong> I knew him, Father.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You knew him?<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/strong> Yes, Father.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Well, good.<\/p>\n

Woman: <\/strong>(Inaudible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He came where you worked.<\/p>\n

Woman: <\/strong>(Inaudible)<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Oh (unintelligible word), you say you\u2019re sufferin\u2019 as a socialist. Nah, when you\u2019re a socialist, shit, (short laugh) your wife goes fuckin\u2019 around on you, you don\u2019t get no nervous about that, and you say, shit, that\u2013 that\u2019s just one less responsibility. But when you are a capitalist<\/em>, and everything you got is restin\u2019 with your money<\/em> and your fame<\/em> and your ego<\/em>, honey, when your wife is caught playin\u2019 footsie, or tootsie with someone else\u2019s ass, you\u2019re dead<\/em> inside. That\u2019s awful. Ain\u2019t nothin\u2019 dies so hard as some poor rich sucker that finds out his wife been playin\u2019 around. Shit, that wouldn\u2019t even make me slightly nervous. (Pause) Hmm, I\u2013 I see some folk are not where I\u2019m at.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Calls out)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> No<\/em>, no, no, no, no! \u2018Cause that\u2019s all you got, you ain\u2019t gonna have it long. And I don\u2019t care how hard you work on, honey, and how much, all the new teas and juices we got, or how much water you swear your ass with, sooner<\/em> or later it\u2019s gonna come down, and you\u2019re done!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> It will fail<\/em>, it will fade away! And it will shrivel up like an\u2013 a little old worm in the sunshine. And all the kissin\u2019 and suckin\u2019 and blowin\u2019<\/em> won\u2019t bring it back.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Laughs)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Perhaps it might be helpful a few extra days, if some of you could reach far enough to suck your own off. That\u2019d be the only thing that could help it. I don\u2019t know anybody here tall enough but my son Stephan [Jones] to do that, and this man here.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Laughs)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> So you might as well build something besides<\/em> your dick, baby, \u2018cause one day, it\u2019s gonna wilt, and your vagina\u2019s gonna shrivel or you\u2019re gonna have a wrinkle somewhere<\/em>, and you better develop somethin\u2019 in your mind<\/em> or you\u2019re gonna lose everything you got.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers and applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, yeah, yeah. There\u2019s some woman curtseying her ass up and down these pathways, like they were Miss America and Miss Body Beautiful, and I\u2019m gonna tell you, you gonna be the ugliest son-of-a-bitch the first wrinkle you get. You\u2019re already ugly to me.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I wouldn\u2019t piss on your ass to put a fire<\/em> out!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Hmm-mm [No]. You\u2019re already stupidly<\/em> ugly to me, you who gotta have your hair just right, and gotta have your\u2013 you gotta have just all of the\u2013 the\u2013 the little cosmetics just right, and you gotta be just right. I\u2019d like to see you get your head<\/em> as\u2013 as\u2013 as straight as you got your damn body<\/em>. Then you might<\/em> be beautiful.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Mmm-hmm [Yes]. (Pause) Some of you men shine like you\u2019ve been under lava all day long, and while the rest are workin\u2019 and sweatin\u2019 and you\u2019re always shinin\u2019, you\u2019re uglier than shit!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Laughs)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You\u2019re uglier than shit. Any woman look at you, she\u2019s a stupid fool and she deserves you! You both deserve each other\u2019s shit!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Don\u2019t make no difference how much you shine, baby. Don\u2019t make no difference how much you work on that body, somebody<\/em> gonna come along, they got a little more saz<\/em> mataz than you got.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> So you better have something in your fuckin\u2019<\/em> head, \u2018cause whoever is developin\u2019 just their body, you\u2019re gonna lose. \u2018Cause every day you look around, baby, and that body ain\u2019t the same. So you better develop something between you besides your ass, and your dick, and your vagina, because you\u2019re gonna lose that one day. (Calms)<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Miss Body Beautiful, get out of my face. And you Mr. uh, Atlases, get out of my face. You don\u2019t impress me. If I was a woman, some of these older men with lines in their face that have fought<\/em> the system and been out on the streets collectin\u2019 money for these children, they\u2019re<\/em> the ones who would appeal to me. If I were lookin\u2019, it\u2019d be some of those women. Huh? Those women with lines, those women with bent backs, but that face that you\u2019ll never have. (Calls out) You\u2019ll never have a face<\/em> like that, \u2018cause you ain\u2019t got nothin\u2019 in your head! It takes a certain kind of mind<\/em> to create some lines. Somebody said they look so young, I wouldn\u2019t brag about, if I were you. Say, what are you doin\u2019? I\u2019m hittin\u2019 everybody. I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m one of those people that throw curves every fuckin\u2019<\/em> second!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> All that shit I got in my head, I\u2019m throwin\u2019 it out. You better hope I don\u2019t vomit it on your head<\/em> directly. Um-hmm-um!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Scattered applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Mm\u2013 We wanna see\u2013 we wanna see some boots<\/em> on your sweet little legs, darlin\u2019.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We wanna see some overhalls [overalls] and some dirt on your knees!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We\u2019re tired of seein\u2019 your sweet ass, when some of us have sold all of our perfume and cologne. Whoa<\/em>, glory!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers and applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I wouldn\u2019t think so much about some of your cologne, because some of you work it\u2013 wear that cologne, but some of your asses is really gonna come up for grab bags before long, \u2018cause you don\u2019t work. All you do is just try strut around here and look beautiful, and you look like a store-bought dummy.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You do, you look like a store-bought dummy. And when you get ready to go to bed with somethin\u2019, I never did feel like I wanted to go to bed with a dummy. A plastic doll? Jesus Christ! Uh, the next question before we leave, huh?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd: <\/strong>(Inaudible question)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah. He played it so<\/em> careful. He said uh, uh, uh, some people resort to violence. He didn\u2019t say Malcolm was a good man<\/em>. He said he\u2019s\u2013 he was a great (unintelligible word), and a great leader, a great black has gone down! He didn\u2019t say that. He played it safe<\/em>, but hell, his ass was down, wasn\u2019t no time till his ass was right with him.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2018Cause he had a few people. They don\u2019t care how respectable you are! Don\u2019t care how safe you play it, and no, Malcolm\u2013 Malcolm was calling for violence, and Martin Luther King said non<\/em>-violence! But he was a black, and he had too many people with him. And I\u2019ll bet Martin, if he\u2019da known it, he wouldna paid the price. I think he\u2013 I think there\u2019s all the difference in the world<\/em> between a Malcolm and a Martin. I would\u2013 I would\u2013 I\u2013 Malcolm is so far ahead of Martin, he\u2019s so much higher than Martin. He had some balls<\/em>! Mar\u2013 uh, these\u2013 these\u2013 these Martin Luther King types, they try to\u2013 one moment, they\u2019re schizophrenic. They\u2019ll say something about the working class, just briefly. (Stumbles over words) He had a little bit of light was alive in him, but it oughta<\/em> be alive, \u2018cause he studied<\/em> in communist cells in the thirties<\/em>, Martin Luther King did. Yes, yes, yes, yes. In the\u2013 In the late-thirties, as a child, and in the forties, he was studying communism, in Peducah, Kentucky. But he did not let it out, so Malcolm<\/em> didn\u2019t know<\/em> it, and Malcolm<\/em> didn\u2019t know nothin\u2019 about no communism. He didn\u2019t know shit<\/em> about communism! He\u2013 (unintelligible word) to let you in, you could tell him\u2013 talking a little bit about working class solidarity, but hell, he was hooked on religion<\/em>! But Martin Luther King didn\u2019t believe<\/em> in no God. He was using<\/em> the\u2013 the church, he said<\/em>, to help people, but what\u2019d he get out of it? What the hell? A bullet in his head, and his movement died in a matter of hours<\/em>. The fuckin\u2019 movement was dead<\/em>. Everybody forgot<\/em> the goddamn movement, \u2018cause there wasn\u2019t nothin\u2019 to hitch onto, there was no socialist principle to hitch onto. And if nobody<\/em> followed him, but at least history<\/em> could say what the hell he was<\/em>. Now all he is is a civil rights activist to get blacks a part of the capitalistic pie. (Pause) Well, uh\u2013 Elijah<\/em> did, Elijah came from Garvey. Elijah carried over Garvey\u2019s message, and Garvey went to jail for it and was finally thrown out of the country<\/em>. Marcus Garvey, the Back-to-Africa movement, and that was all Elijah Mohammad was, just re-version of Marcus Garvey. But these suckers would play<\/em> on that and take all their money and then forget<\/em> it, then forget<\/em> the message. You could see Elijah had begun to die. When he\u2013 when he deposed Malcolm from saying just the obvious truth, that the chickens come home to roost<\/em>, and they shut<\/em> him up forever. \u2018Cause they were gettin\u2019 nervous. The\u2013 The Muslims had decided then<\/em> to play it safe. And from there on, they played it so safe, that what happened to Elijah for playing it safe? His whole<\/em> goddamn movement went to nothin\u2019! He got the fuckin\u2019 son [Wallace Deen Muhammad] that went out and told<\/em> the story on him, that he had, uh, what was it, eight children by six teenagers. The very son that told it, he\u2019s\u2013 Malcolm gave his name, he said, Wallace told<\/em> me. And Wallace<\/em> is now in charge of that fuckin\u2019 movement. Right on TV, yes, he said Wallace told him. Said Wallace has told me, and now I\u2019m revealing the true me\u2013 reason for going out. Wallace, anybody else that would go out from a movement over that. I think that\u2019s a wrong thing to go out, I think it\u2019s wrong to be runnin\u2019 around with your dick, playin\u2019, but I don\u2019t think a leader<\/em> should be condemned<\/em> if he\u2019d had a baby<\/em>, for even pleasure<\/em>, which I never had. But I don\u2019t think he should be condemned<\/em> for that. You better judge all<\/em> that Elijah Mohammad was doing, then him stand up there, Malcolm made a great<\/em> mistake to do that, but more so, more to blame is that fuckin\u2019 Wallace<\/em>, his own son<\/em> that condemned him! \u2018Cause Malcolm\u2019s all put out of shape<\/em>, he\u2019s pushed<\/em> out of shape, naturally<\/em>, by being silenced, but we\u2013 you can empathize with him. But what he oughta done was got clear away from the M\u2013 Muslim, never mention their fuckin\u2019 name, and start talkin\u2019 about the white oppressor. But who can always look at your mistakes? Shit. Everybody makes mistakes. But that was his<\/em> mistake, but you can see how he\u2019d be more ready<\/em> to talk about it, if the goddamn son<\/em> of the leader was bad-mouthing him. And he said, right<\/em> there on that TV, that Wallace<\/em> Deen Muhammad, told<\/em> me. If you were listenin\u2019. How many heard<\/em> it? That\u2013 That doesn\u2019t mean you weren\u2019t listening, \u2018cause some people will miss some things. But that\u2019s what he said. No, there quite a difference, and somebody asked me back there, if, uh, we, uh\u2013 What\u2019d you ask me? I never did answer that question. What would happen if all the people got together with Malcolm? Well, I\u2019ll tell you what woulda happen. The system woulda come out for what it was early<\/em>. You\u2019da seen the troops in the streets, you\u2019da seen a military takeover, and you\u2019da seen black people being put in jails and concentration camps, and you\u2019da seen some white<\/em> ones had to go, too.<\/a> And that mighta caused a revolt inside the public sector, like the Red Brigade says in Italy, that\u2019s what it brings about. It\u2019da brought some kind of identity, working class identity, maybe<\/em>. Back then there was some spirit<\/em>. While there was spirit<\/em>, that was a time to strike. Strike while the irons were hot, and the spirit was high then. People were ready to fight. You saw black people fightin\u2019 right before the camera. Shit, they\u2013 they had some boldness then! So that woulda been the time<\/em> for somebody to pronounce socialism, that\u2019da been the time for Martin Luther King to come out of his damn closet, and say it\u2019s a matter of the international working<\/em> class to unite against the oppressors<\/em>! He said there\u2019s a conspiracy<\/em> \u2013 that\u2019s what Malcolm was saying \u2013 it\u2019s higher than the Black Muslim, he went to the State Department. What\u2019s the State Department govern? This\u2013 Activities of the CIA. That\u2019s where it falls into their purview. Foreign operations. So but\u2013 King could see what the hell was goin\u2019 on. But he didn\u2019t speak quick enough. Always waitin\u2019. Some folks say we shoulda waited now, I don\u2019t believe so. We\u2019da waited and we\u2019da died back there.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I mean, we\u2019da lost our soul, we\u2019da lost our spirit, we\u2019da lost our minds. Our children were dyin\u2019 for nothin\u2019. If we coulda won any battles, I\u2019da said stay<\/em> there, but, shit, if we\u2019da won it temporarily, we\u2019da lost it! If I\u2019da gone down and marched around all them fuckin\u2019 newspapers, they\u2019da shot me in the head<\/em>, sure as hell, and you\u2019da been in the same place that you are not. You are not now in that position, you got a leader, and our children have had one year, many of them, of growing up in an environment of love and acceptance, where they don\u2019t have to look at some racist pig lookin\u2019 down their goddamn nose at them. They\u2019ve had one year \u2013 one year \u2013 that our seniors\u2019ve been able to live in peace, without somebody bein\u2019 mugged or raped, don\u2019t have to worry \u2018bout goin\u2019 home tonight, and somebody breakin\u2019 in and stealin\u2019, or rapin\u2019 you in your sleep. Don\u2019t have to be worrying<\/em> about that anymore.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, surely some people (unintelligible phrase) is already upset.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> They\u2019re already upset, and they say, we got tigers<\/em>. Say we got tigers<\/em>. I didn\u2019t know of any tigers. You ain\u2019t got nothin\u2019 to worry about. You keep your nose clean and stay in this community, the tigers don\u2019t come in here.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> The goddamn snakes don\u2019t come in here. Said, if they\u2019da told me(unintelligible phrase) they told me, I would\u2019na come. (Pause) Well, I told<\/em> you. (Pause) If you didn\u2019t listen, I told you there\u2019s tigers. I said they were down from us. And every fuckin\u2019 one of has been down<\/em> from us, hasn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He stands out there and watches at night, and as long as you stay on our<\/em> property, he don\u2019t bother you. He\u2019s got more respect for socialism than you<\/em> have. All right, all right, all right. No snake\u2019s gonna crawl in your bed. I tell you, if there were snakes in our bed every night, and scorpions, and those\u2013 and if you\u2013 you see one of those tarantulas, they make pets<\/em> out of them, they\u2019re sellin\u2019 them in New York pet<\/em> stores today. I see that\u2019s the craze<\/em> in the Time<\/em> Magazine<\/em>. Hell, as you\u2019ve seen the principle picked \u2018em up, they\u2019re\u2013 they\u2019re little balls of love. They<\/em> ain\u2019t gonna bother nobody. But if ev\u2013 if every<\/em> bed had a scorpion tonight, and every<\/em> bed had a tarantula, and every<\/em> fuckin\u2019 bed had a poisonous snake, I tell you<\/em>, I would rather risk<\/em> myself here<\/em>, than back there with a bunch o\u2019 mother-fuckin\u2019 Uncle Toms and Aunt Janes.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> No, don\u2019t worry, ain\u2019t nobody been bit by no snake. We had more chances\u2013 We had folk bit<\/em> in Northern California, but nobody\u2019s ever been bit here. Just as long as you don\u2019t go out there, there are a million of \u2018em out there. If you don\u2019t go out on your own business, but if you go out there on your\u2013 the business of this program, they ain\u2019t none of \u2018em gonna bother ya. They haven\u2019t done it yet<\/em>. And that\u2019s the miracle power of a protection that we can\u2019t even calculate. Like the baby [Ebony Duncan] that died, Regina [Duncan]\u2019s, heart couldn\u2019t be found, lives. All the great things that happen when I\u2019m on the ball, and some enemy\u2019s not got my mind preoccupied. Yeah. Got a lot of things we\u2019re gonna remember Debby about.<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We\u2019ve had a purpose<\/em>, and as Jack Beam said, if it didn\u2019t last a day, at least we tried to do something, and we showed an example of what life oughta be, and we stood up and spoke out against the goddamn system, and we laid it out that we were socialist.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And if nobody\u2019s listenin\u2019, that\u2019s their<\/em> fault!<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> They all gonna die some<\/em> time, \u2018cause John D. [Rockefeller] just died.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Somebody run into his white ass, and he died. And all of his billions<\/em>, and all of his banks, and all of his oil didn\u2019t stop his ass from dyin\u2019!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Hmm-hmm, yes. So why not die for somethin\u2019 right, rather than die for no reason at all? That\u2019s one thing for sure. You know if you die here, you\u2019ve died for somethin\u2019 right.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Any other questions before we close it? (Pause) You can\u2019t take them fuckin\u2019 houses down in the grave.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Affirms)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And if you could, the maggots eat their ass, while they\u2019re eatin\u2019 yours too.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And I don\u2019t know why folk fight so hard to keep their fuckin\u2019 ass alive, \u2018cause you all gonna die. Unless you know Jim Jones, he\u2019s the only one who can raise the\u2013 the dead, and then the lot of folks who sent me applications don\u2019t raise theirs.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Delayed laughter and applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s the only resurrector I know that folk don\u2019t want to use. (Pause) Rockefeller<\/em> didn\u2019t have nobody could raise him. Rockefeller didn\u2019t have nobody could save his grandchild. Rockefeller didn\u2019t have nobody to get him out of jail, if he got there either. Just lookin\u2019 at the natural side of it. Rockefeller didn\u2019t have anybody that could heal his paralyzed boy, that was paralyzed from the head down like uh, one of our young men. Hmm? You oughta know it, oughta be on your lips, so you can have that faith for others. Who was he?<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> What?<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, you got four or (unintelligible word) five different names\u2013 Well, we\u2019ve had, Tommy Beikman, white, Walter Williams, black, blind, both paralyzed, crippled? Hmm-mm [Yes]? This very last week, little girl. Who?<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Shirelle Evans.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Shirelle Evans? Yeah. I\u2019d think<\/em> you\u2019d remember. If it was your<\/em> child, you\u2019d remember it.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Not to say the best medicine, the best doctors, facilities, the best of everything. But more<\/em> than that \u2013 and all you want to eat \u2013 but more<\/em> than that. We\u2019ve got somethin\u2019 to live for. Our movement stands for something. Anything else? Yes, (unintelligible) that point yet. Few hundred people who were black in<\/em> Paris, they\u2019re not doin\u2019 too well now<\/em>. But the main point was not that he was black, it was he was standing for solidarity with Africa, where USA and France was exploiting the people, taking their money, their riches away, working them for twenty cents, sixteen cents, and in some cases, no<\/em> cents a day. This slavery actually goes on in South Africa today, where people are confined to work on plantations and in Rhodesia, and don\u2019t get a dime for it. They\u2019re virtual slaves. That the last comment? Yes?<\/p>\n

Woman in crowd:<\/strong> (inaudible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> What did she say? She has a comment she wishes to say. Now, (unintelligible word) I won\u2019t scream at an old person to speak up, no more than I would this young man, because he has infirmities. Notice\u2013 Out of all the thousands (voice fades)\u2013<\/p>\n

Woman in crowd:<\/strong> (inaudible)<\/p>\n

Man:<\/strong> We haven\u2019t had one murder\u2013<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013haven\u2019t had one murder.<\/p>\n

Woman in crowd:<\/strong> Not one murder\u2013 (inaudible)<\/p>\n

Man:<\/strong> Not one fight \u2013<\/p>\n

Woman in crowd:<\/strong> (inaudible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s important. That we do<\/em> speak to each other, that we do show our interest in some senior when they\u2019re not around, that you go in the geriatric unit and visit them. Remember the days that they stood in the cold and fed you. Remember the days that they stood in the cold, Father put his life on the line, and some of them helped to get the money that got you out of jail. They deserve your respect. These children deserve your care. Sh\u2013 They need your love like you<\/em> got from Father. You all should be fathers and mothers to every little child here. And I don\u2019t wanna hear no more shit, like somebody breakin\u2019 a relationship, and forgettin\u2019 all the kids. That don\u2019t work here. You can change pussies<\/em> mid-stream, but you ain\u2019t changin\u2019 kids.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Delayed calls and applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s capitalism. The man can run off and leave the kids there, the mother can leave the kids, but that\u2013 that does not work here. We don\u2019t leave<\/em> our responsibilities. Don\u2019t try<\/em> it. You can go to marriage committees and get all\u2013 any relationship you want, but you damn<\/em> well better not be cuttin\u2019 out any kids. \u2018Cause kids can\u2019t stand all of your sitty\u2013 silly-ass shit. They can\u2019t stand that bickerin\u2019 and fightin\u2019. They need to have stability and love, and not feel that all the interest in them is based on whether you\u2019re in somebody\u2019s\u2013 I\u2019m sick of this shit goin\u2019 around here, sayin\u2019 I wanna take care of your baby. You fuckin\u2019, stupid dummies! There ain\u2019t no man comin\u2019 around some woman that he wants to help take care of my baby. Any woman who\u2019d have\u2013 Shit, you don\u2019t know what the hell\u2019s goin\u2019 on when he wouldn\u2019t take care of the thirteen he had.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And all the ones he throwed all over America. He wouldn\u2019t take care of them, what makes you think he wants to take care of your baby? Oh, he wants to take care of that baby long<\/em> enough to get you off<\/em> guard, so he can put his sperm in you and run.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Like he\u2019s had another conquest to say he\u2019s Mr. Beautiful. You stupid women. Some of you women are stupid.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Say he really likes my kid, shi-i-it! Shit, they ain\u2019t (unintelligible) the revolution hasn\u2019t come here yet. It may (unintelligible word) some, but they not goin\u2019 around doin\u2019 it that way. No, and if somebody come up to you woman and says to you, \u201cI wanna help with your kid. I really wanna be\u2013 I\u2013 it\u2019s not that I wanna bother you, I wanna help with your kid.\u201d Don\u2019t you buy no shit like that. Oh my. Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, you are stupid<\/em> if you buy that shit.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> A lot of quiet men now, because their game has just been laid. I just fucked you when you were tryin\u2019 to fuck her<\/em> over.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, now that um, is the sum and substance, let\u2019s get that message tonight. And um, the film will be shown for those who want to see it over if there were those at meetings that did not<\/em> get to see it. It\u2019s a sad commentary, and if your eyes are open, you will know that they can\u2019t make it in USA. With all the fame and attention and glory he had, and all the television appearances in books, and magazine articles, at the close of his life, he\u2019s pouring out his soul \u2013 and there\u2019s 400 folk in that Audubon, the same auditorium I was in, we had a thousand, he carried more than 400 of ourselves there. So (sighs) if he<\/em> couldn\u2019t do it, you sure as shit ain\u2019t gonna do it. So don\u2019t kid yourself that you\u2019re gonna go back to America to do any good. You wanna go back there to do some shit. And uh, remember, you\u2019re black. They\u2019ll get you before you get a chance<\/em> to do any of your shit.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And when they could do their shit, they gotta constantly \u2013 as I said\u00a0\u2013 constantly, constantly, constantly. Don\u2019t forget that, keep awake, young lady. Constantly they gotta do one thing back there, is keep on our ass all the time. Because they know that they\u2019re suspect by all those people in that society. They know they\u2019re suspect. They know that they have been with Jim Jones, and they got to explain it. And so they can\u2019t even have fun any longer, they can\u2019t even do one of the things that you call fun. They can\u2019t drink, or play, or go to the show, they gotta be every day, attackin\u2019 Jim Jones, \u2018cause nobody trusts their ass. And when they get through<\/em>, nobody\u2019ll trust their ass anyway.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And they\u2019re gonna suffer a little along the way, because [Tim] Stoen went too far, and we\u2019ve sued him with a 50 million dollar suit. He won\u2019t ever have the money to pay it, but the suit hit the, uh, (stumbles over words), it hit the uh, courts today. Fifty million dollars, \u2018cause he fucked around and he\u2019s gonna lose his uh, bar\u2013 bar license, and that\u2019s so important to him, he\u2019s gonna fuck around. He\u2019s makin\u2019 some mistakes, he\u2019s workin\u2019 for the man, but he\u2019s just crossin\u2019 the little turns that he shouldn\u2019t be crossin\u2019. Got some money behind him, but he ain\u2019t gonna be able to come out clean. He wants to come out smellin\u2019 clean, and he ain\u2019t gonna come out smellin\u2019 clean. Cause he already got himself in trouble today. Fifty million dollars. And we laid out some shit. Well, give me some of the charges we laid out against him. You would know he ain\u2019t gonna like that shit going through. And they say, \u201cWell, the newspaper won\u2019t print it.\u201d Well, honey, we\u2019ll spill\u2013 once it\u2019s made public record, you can pass it out from door to door. And that\u2019s what I want ordered done, by the way. Door to door, the last thing we do, door to door. Some of the charges we got him with there. Mm mm mm mm mm mm mm mm! (stumbles over words) Can she give \u2018em to me? I can\u2019t remember it all, \u2018cause I don\u2019t keep things in my mind. She got my notes there. Fifty million dollar suit, 400,000 dollars punitive damages. Said the court won\u2019t ever award it \u2018cause we\u2019re socialist, but, Jesus, his name\u2019s gonna be ruined. (short laugh)<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> His fuckin\u2019 name is gonna be ruined, and that\u2019s worse than him dyin\u2019. Tim Stoen wanted us to kill him quick, mm mm mm mm mm! We don\u2019t kill a little old piss\u2013 piece of white ass like his\u2013 why we wanna kill his white ass. Let him suffer to death!<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And I want it\u2013 I got the notes, uh\u2013 The notes are right down there, the points in those notes. Where is she, with those notes? \u2018Cause I wanna word it\u2013 word it just like it is, unless you got a me\u2013 better memory than any of us. I wanna be\u2013 you know, and too, I wanna say it, some things I don\u2019t reveal\u2013 I want the\u2013 I want the notes. It\u2019ll make some people feel good. I just\u2013 She just took \u2018em away, Carolyn [Layton] just took \u2018em away.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Well, there\u2019s something\u2019s like uh\u2013 (Short laugh) Shit, we left, that we\u2013 we didn\u2019t dare the worst, \u2018cause some of it\u2013 some of it woulda got some other<\/em> folk in trouble. But all of you that are safely sound over here, we got a lot of the little shit, you know. He did. (Pause) Um-hmm [yes], um-hmm, um-hmm. Quickly, I don\u2019t wanna hold up folk much longer. Come on.<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (unintelligible) for murder one. There\u2019s about five of our ex-members being charged with murder one. Said, \u201cI know I have no right asking for your help, being the traitor that I am, but all I can do is ask for your forgiveness and that you<\/em> would spare one minute of meditation for me, my wife, and our children.\u201d I remember when he left. It was not that kind of a spirit. I\u2019m talkin\u2019 \u2018bout David uh, uh, to\u2013 talkin\u2019 \u2018bout Danny Rodriguez. \u201cI don\u2019t mean to bring my wife and her children in this for sympathy, nor would I accept it. I know it was a very bad thing that I did. I\u2019m sorry it happened, not for myself, but more for his mother, for I know she is suffering, just as my mother would, if it had been the other way around. I don\u2019t ask for money, nor could I accept any\u2013 uh, nor could I accept any, \u2018cause I know there is people that need the money more than I do. I just couldn\u2019t think of me having the church uh, spending more money for my ass \u2013 for my case \u2013 and I really do mean this. I\u2019m ready to face the\u2013 the led, and uh, face whatever it is, and serve whatever time I\u2019m given. I\u2019m charged with murder in the first degree.\u201d That\u2019s gas chamber. He won\u2019t go. \u201cAnd for giving the\u2013 the\u2013 the best\u2013 his life, his total life in prison. I would like to say [to] the people of the church that I make\u2013 that to\u2013 to make me\u2013 I would like for you to\u2013 to\u2013 to tell the people in the church there, to make me an example of a traitor to the cause. Because I didn\u2019t listen to what you said. Even though I never considered, uh\u2013 co\u2013 uh, coincided with people that are trying to destroy the church or its cause. Just to leave the cause when you\u2019re needed \u2013 for any reason at all, whatever \u2013 (Pause) uh, and then so you become a traitor. I am a traitor, and it\u2019s enough to bring some others like thi\u2013 this upon themselves. If it is, please<\/em>, use me as an example. So take it from me, for I am there.\u201d He\u2019s where? He\u2019s in cell C-1, twelfth bed in one cell, can\u2013 in the jail in uh, Santa Barbara, California. And he\u2019s not black. \u201cMy wife and I have discussed coming back to the church,\u201d and he wants us to be able to take him if he ever gets a chance. And certainly we\u2013 we will.<\/p>\n

We want to do other things. Short of taking money away from the survival<\/em> of our people, we will<\/em>. But that\u2019s what happens to folk who leave<\/em> the cause and try to do it on your own. You can\u2019t make it. He was a young, light-skin chap. But it wasn\u2019t\u2013 you can\u2019t be light enough up there. The system\u2019s always beggin\u2019 for trouble. And what mother just said to you, the little mother, that nobody here\u2019s been\u2013 ever murdered anybody. And no one here\u2019s been charged<\/em> with murder, nobody inside our church has ever been charged with murder. But a whole lot of folk have. One\u2019s on death row right now. Another one will be there the rest of his life. You remember the young man that spoke out and said \u201cI don\u2019t need you.\u201d What was his name?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Harold Hill.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> What?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Harold Hill.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Harold Hill. Well, let\u2019s see what uh, those uh, things they\u2019re gonna do in that case, that\u2019s pretty good, that\u2019s pretty good, that\u2019s pretty good. Tim Stoen\u2019s now actin\u2019 like he loves the Lord, you know. I remember that (unintelligible word)\u2013 remember that (unintelligible). Reverend Donneter Lane, his wife, the head of the Council of Churches, she\u2019s so sad, all she does is talk to us. She\u2019s now talkin\u2019 about Ben Chavis, in the prison hospital with ruptured appendix. Now she\u2019s ill. Nobody gives a shit out there, honey, but us. But Father, right now uh, some of you<\/em> wouldn\u2019t give a shit if I didn\u2019t make<\/em> you do it.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> (Quiet) Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> But it\u2019s time we quit<\/em> that, if we want to live peacefully<\/em>, if you want babies to not suffer. There\u2019re those seem to have it right before my eyes, huh? Did you find it? What are the parts that are in that suit against Mr. Stoen\u2013 against Mr. St\u2013 (Pause ) Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no. (Pause) Tell a\u2013 tell a (unintelligible)\u2013 Down here,uh,\u00a0 Paul Avery, Katie Coleman \u2013 page after page after page of lies, how he killed off people, he\u2019s a cruel heart, never once does it talk about socialism. (unintelligible) (Pause)<\/p>\n

New Times<\/em> has learned that there exists a secret wing of the Panthers known within the party as a squad. Goons. The members often operate like underworld hitmen<\/em> against children<\/em>, against anybody he doesn\u2019t like. I\u2013 You see\u2013 it doesn\u2019t\u2013 all New Times<\/em> about. Now you know when you get this much attention, that ain\u2019t a story, baby, that\u2019s a conspiracy<\/em>. I\u2019m talkin\u2019 \u2018bout one<\/em> magazine. You ever see a magazine write this much? I\u2019m still\u2013 I\u2019m still goin\u2019 on, honey. Never done nothin\u2019 like that ever before, have they? On and on\u2013 little old sell-out, his sell-out, Elaine Brown, doin\u2019 her singin\u2019. Yeah, they sing. Times\u2019ll come. On and on! After [Huey] Newton jumped bail and fled for Cuba, Elaine Brown became party chairperson. Under her leadership, the Panthers made impressive inroads into Oakland\u2019s political establishment. She was a sell<\/em>-out. They naturally wanna dress her up. Now they show all the people around him that he\u2019s supposed to murder\u2013 he\u2019s supposed to murdered all of these, uh\u2013 one of \u2018em\u2019s a kid. She wore a fur and she was full of shit. And they\u2013 He\u2013 he posed. This man ain\u2019t got no sense at all. This kid ain\u2019t got no sense. If he\u2019da listen to me, uh, uh, if you people just let me be a dad. He stood there and let them take pictures of him, and gave them this fuckin\u2019 story, and they have nailed him to the cross. He\u2019s standin\u2019 there smilin\u2019 in front of one of the Panther vehicles, smilin\u2019 like a Cheshire cat, and they\u2019re cuttin\u2019 him to mincemeat. \u2018Cause he believed<\/em> what they told<\/em>! He believed what they told. He oughta know<\/em> from what they\u2019ve been doin\u2019 to me, he ain\u2019t gonna get a good story. But he was a fool<\/em>! He uh\u2013 Somehow people never think it\u2019s gonna apply to them. Look at him smilin\u2019 there for their\u2013 That\u2019s their camera<\/em>, honey, that\u2019s their picture<\/em>. He cooperated to give them this fuckin\u2019 story and they have nailed<\/em> him to the cross. He will never<\/em> resurrect out of this. And the Berkeley Barb<\/em> joined right in and carrying all this shit, too. All<\/em> of \u2018em. And the establishment papers are havin\u2019 a field day. He\u2019s headlines of every newspaper in the nation.<\/p>\n

Male in crowd:<\/strong> I remember when you asked him \u2013 right? \u2013 we were sittin\u2019 in the room and you asked him, uh, do you think socialism would ever come about in the United States, he said, well, Fa\u2013 I didn\u2019t think socialism would ever come about, I don\u2019t think I could ever live anymore, live with myself.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (unintelligible under male) That\u2019s what he said in Cuba. Said I couldn\u2019t live. He said he couldn\u2019t live<\/em>. He said exactly that<\/em>, he said I couldn\u2019t live<\/em>. I said, well, you better face the facts, and stay where you are, \u2018cause they ain\u2019t gonna come. (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Fees will be assessed \u2013 you may be seated \u2013 at around 400,000 dollars, that is for publicity purposes. The punitive damages<\/em>, he estimated, will \u2013 Charles Garry, our attorney \u2013 will be fifty million dollars. Response to the question whether individuals or corporations are suing, we both<\/em> are suing as the church, and individuals on behalf of the corporation. It is the latter that has suffered the damages of breach of confidence, and violation of attorney-client privileges. Hmm. They wantin\u2019 to know if S\u2013 if [Sandy] Bradshaw could be in it. I think she might be in it, for the one good thing she heard him say. (Pause) I\u2019m tryin\u2019 to see what the hell it is that\u2019s made a matter of the public record. From passing on (unintelligible word) toilet paper, he can\u2019t sue us for this. We\u2019ve been lookin\u2019 for this day.<\/p>\n

During a time when his job was in jeopardy, he worked as a social worker for the Mendocino county welfare department, Tim Stoen, then assistant district attorney for the county, took it on himself to speak to the welfare department director on behalf of Jim Randolph. Tim Stoen subsequently told Jim Randolph that hi\u2013 the director, Dennis R. Denny, had threatened to get Stoen\u2019s job in retalia\u2013 in retaliation. It is known to Jim Randolph and others, that on at least two<\/em> separate occasions, Mr. uh, Denny had tried<\/em> to get Randolph\u2019s job. In a bragging manner \u2013 instead of giving me<\/em> the credit, he\u2013 I\u2019m glad he didn\u2019t this time \u2013 in a bragging manner, Tim Stoen tole\u2013 told Jim Randolph, that he had answered Denny\u2019s threat with words to the effect that if he, Denny, tried to get Stoen\u2019s job, Stoen would sue him once a month for the rest of his life. He also remembers Stoen saying, he had told Denny, you know what I\u2013 that I can\u2013 what I can do with you. There are several people who know decisively<\/em> that Tim Stoen gave Patty Cartmell instructions to proceed with a major\u2013 (Short laugh, pause) Uh, well, it\u2019s a criminal act, let\u2019s put it this\u2013 and so she ended up in jail. Um-hmm [Yes], see what I\u2019m sayin\u2019? He ain\u2019t gonna like his name like that. (stumbles over words) subscribed by witnesses that knew Tim Stoen sent a threatening letter to his wife, Grace Stoen, threatening her life, which he did. Now we can refer to it, even though she\u2019s<\/em> keeping it cool<\/em> and covering<\/em> it, we can tell some of the things he<\/em> did.<\/p>\n

Phyllis Houston was advised by Tim Stoen to use her position as dispatcher of the Mendocino County Sheriff\u2019s Department to get rid of tape<\/em> recordings that he wanted off the record. He\u2019ll never get another goddamn job, um-umm [no]. And the bar exam, the bar, the State Bar\u2019s gonna have this shit in their hands. That don\u2019t make no difference to State Bar whether you\u2019re a capitalist or a socialist, you know, at some place they gotta draw the line on who practices law<\/em>. And she\u2019s<\/em> giving sworn testimony. She could not erase the tapes, but did arrange the designa\u2013 desi\u2013 designated dates recordings so that they would be out<\/em> of filing order, and he is sequence, uh\u2013 he is in sequence to be automatically erased (unintelligible word), by the office. It would be erased. So she didn\u2019t commit a crime, and he has. I mean he\u2013\u00a0he\u2019s committed a violation.<\/p>\n

David Smith\u2013 Tim Stoen advised David Smith \u2013 you know David Smith back there, the white gentleman \u2013 not to pay his federal income taxes. (Pause) An attorney? An attorney? And I have only begun to hit the the poop. You don\u2019t think we should hit him with this shit?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> This is better than bullets<\/em>, baby. This is better<\/em> than bullets. \u2018Cause I<\/em> told him to go ahead and pay<\/em> his taxes and he did. But<\/em> Tim Stoen \u2013 we have record \u2013 he didn\u2019t, he told him not<\/em> to do it. Sandy Bradshaw was advised by Timothy O. Stoen to actually hide<\/em> Jack Arnold \u2013 she don\u2019t have a job anymore, so it don\u2019t make any difference \u2013 she was told uh, by Timothy O. Stoen to actual\u2013 actually hide Jack Arnold Beam, when the sheriff\u2019s deputy came to the Redwood Valley Center to pick him up for questioning in a child<\/em> abuse charge. Mrs. Bradshaw did as Stoen asked, and (tape distortion). We\u2013 We put everything that we can put in that the little\u2013 little ways, you know, just get little things there that you can refer<\/em> to now, nobody can sue us. But when it\u2019s a public record, you can say anything you want to about it. So we got it in there that uh, uh, Jack Beam Junior, what he did about a child<\/em> abuse charge. You remember?<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Mrs. Brad\u2013\u00a0Bradshaw did as Stoen asked, and took Stoen\u2013 took Beam into a small office in the complex, for the sole<\/em> purpose of hiding him from the police authorities. Isn\u2019t that nice? District Attorney is the head<\/em> of the police authorities. Say, what do we care? Shit, that\u2019s what he got for dirtying our fuckin\u2019 name. We don\u2019t give a shit<\/em> no mo!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He\u2013\u00a0He shoulda kept us clean<\/em>. He shoulda kept us clean. This don\u2019t hurt our ass at all. They ba\u2013 had much<\/em> worse to say about us than this<\/em>, and they\u2019re all their lies, so we gonna tell some of the truth<\/em> now.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Okay. She acted on instructions from Stoen, whom she had called at his DA\u2019s office. After she had hidden Beam, she went back out to talk to the sheriff\u2019s deputy, because she worked with the deputies in the probation department, where she was employed, and knew<\/em> they would tend to believe her story that Beam<\/em> was not in the building. Now how\u2019s he gonna explain that to the\u2013 the licensing authorities? And he loves to practice law, that little honky\u2019s ass, he loves\u2013 that cracker, he\u2013 and then\u2013\u00a0then we got another one. And uh, she \u2013 Phyllis Houston \u2013 was also told by Stoen to look at the Sheriff\u2019s office, she don\u2019t\u2013 they don\u2019t bother to say who told Stoen<\/em>, but that don\u2019t make no difference<\/em> here, honey. That don\u2019t make no difference here. Phyllis Houston was told by Stoen to look at the sheriff\u2019s report on the above incident, and report the contents directly to him. She read the report \u2013 no, I didn\u2019t have nothin\u2019 to do with that \u2013 she read the report, and as she recalls, she relayed the contents directly to Stoen in his office. That\u2019s right, because it was Stoen that came to me and said, no use to fight that case. We better get disassociated with uh\u2013 with him, and let him go to jail, because we\u2019ll all go down with him. Now I didn\u2019t, \u2018cause I\u2013 I care about you, I don\u2019t let you\u2013 Stoen advised all members of Peoples Temple. You all know this. They say we got guns, don\u2019t they?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Uh, Peoples uh\u2013 Stoen advised in a public meeting \u2013 and he did, if you remember \u2013 all<\/em> members of Peoples Temple who possessed any kind of a handgun, rifle, shotgun, and<\/em> ammunition, to turn them in directly<\/em> to him, and he stored all\u2013 that\u2013 all of it that was sur\u2013 surrendered to him in his own<\/em> home. There were several hundred guns in his keeping.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Laughter and cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And I haven\u2019t even begun.<\/p>\n

Man in crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s why we don\u2019t have no guns.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s why we ain\u2019t got \u2018em. He\u2019s got \u2018em all. Sandra Bradshaw was advised along with Jack Arnold Beam, Jack Beam Senior, Mike Prokes, Gene Chaikin, Harold Cordell, Rick Cordell, to get licenses<\/em> to carry handguns by Tim Stoen.<\/p>\n

Man in crowd:<\/strong> And we got the\u2013 we got the license (unintelligible).<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Through Tim Stoen. So all those bunch of socialist bandits over there<\/em>? It was Tim Stoen that gave \u2018em the trigger!<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And I ain\u2019t finished yet. I\u2013 And I can\u2019t give it all to you, but I know that\u2019d make your night better as you go home to rest a little bit on that weary pillow.<\/p>\n

Tim Stoen used his office to order a copy \u2013 now this\u2019ll get you \u2013 The Terrorist Anarchist Cookbook<\/em>, which is a well-known, how-to-do book in the planning and operation of terrorist<\/em> activities. He got it with the express<\/em> purpose of directing the\u2013 the\u2013 the Temple members into this<\/em> kind of activity, which was rejected<\/em> by its leader, which it was. He gave the book to people\u2013 He gave the book to Bonnie Beck when he received it, telling her to read the uh, part about making explosives<\/em>, especially. He sent her to Santa Rosha\u2013 Santa Rosa to Xerox<\/em> the book for him, which she did, \u2018cause she didn\u2019t consult with me. Now how\u2019s he gonna like that? He\u2019s talkin\u2019 \u2019bout us with guns, and we\u2019re talkin\u2019 about him with bombs<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Fucker. Yeah, I\u2013 I say that\u2019s better than killin\u2019 somebody. Shit, I don\u2019t wanna kill nobody.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Get at their ass. He wants to be Mr. Respectable<\/em> now. He\u2019s tryin\u2019 to be Mr. Clean<\/em>. He\u2019s born again with a Bible in his hand. How\u2019s<\/em> he gonna explain all that shit? I was polluted, before I met Jesus? (Short laugh) Hell, there no\u2013 no law Bar, no law exam gonna look at that, this doctor could go home tomorrow and say I was polluted, I followed Jim Jones, they\u2019ll scratch his ass from ever bein\u2019 a doctor. They say, if you so suck\u2013 fuckin\u2019 stupid that you woulda\u2013 did all that for him, and you were with that group that they\u2019re telling all those lies about, you ain\u2019t never<\/em> gonna be no doctor in this USA! And that\u2019s what\u2019s gonna happen to his<\/em> ass. He ain\u2019t gonna get<\/em> to practice his fuckin\u2019 law, and that\u2019s all his white ass lives for.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He wants to get back, and he wants to be a politician. He thinks he\u2019s gonna win an election on our\u2013 on our death, by crucifying us, he\u2019s gonna get into some little job. Shit, they won\u2019t give him dog<\/em>-catcher job when we get through with him.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You better\u2013 you better\u2013 you better\u2013 you better fuck to kill when you playin\u2019 with us, baby! You better get<\/em> us killed \u2018cause we\u2013 if you don\u2019t<\/em> get us killed, we\u2019ll get yo\u2019 ass.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And if you get us all killed, we\u2019ll say hallelujah<\/em>! And you can\u2019t get<\/em> us all killed, so you better be nice.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Excited) So when you take on to fightin\u2019 me, you\u2019ve already dirtied my goddamn name all over the whole wide USA! So they said I was this, he said I\u2019m that<\/em>, so I\u2019m gonna prove<\/em>\u2013 Well, we got documented evidence where he filed in, and people visit him in his attorney\u2019s office. He\u2019s the district attorney. You gotta file in and file out, you know, baby, (unintelligible word). If you don\u2019t, you go through a secretary to make your call so we can subpoena witnesses. Oh, I think that\u2019s much better than, some of you wanna go back and shoot his ass, I think that\u2019s much<\/em> better. Oh, my yes!<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (unintelligible), this is worse than death to him. This is gonna be worse<\/em> than death<\/em>. That he was settin\u2019 in the DA\u2019s office and ordered a handbook, and we got the mails to prove it. He ordered a handbook, to know how to make bombs,<\/em> and he told Bonnie Beck to go and Xerox a copy? (Voice drops) Oh Jesus! Mr. Respectable, born again Christian. (Voice climbs) And I don\u2019t care how much he stands up and says, I<\/em> met Jesus! I<\/em> met Jesus! If he\u2019da met Jesus, goddamn him, I wouldn\u2019t feel so bad at him, but if he\u2019da met\u2013 even though uh, Jesus is a spook<\/em>, I\u2019da had more respect<\/em> for the fucker, but he (unintelligible word) still lyin\u2019, doin\u2019 all this racist shit, appealin\u2019 to people on\u2013 based on lies, and try to whip up uh, race hate that will affect every black person in America by sayin\u2019 two black men tried to pull that old bitch\u2013 that old white bitch over and\u2013 and\u2013 and rape her ass. Ain\u2019t nobody stupid<\/em> enough to rape her ass. (Stumbles over words) And we haven\u2019t got no black people up there. We had to move \u2018em all out. Anybody that\u2019s that lowdown\u2013 he ain\u2019t met no Jesus, he\u2019s a dirty, rotten, son-of-a-bitch, and he\u2019s now got his Jesus, and all of \u2018em got their Jesus, they\u2019re lyin\u2019, faster than a horse can trot.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Delayed applause)<\/p>\n

Jones: <\/strong>Chargin\u2019 me\u2013 chargin\u2019 me for preachin\u2019 there is no God. By God, it\u2019s best to tell the truth<\/em>. There ain\u2019t<\/em> no God. This is terrible to act like you believe in God and carry on like these<\/em> fools are carryin\u2019 on. They deserve to get whatever the shit comes to them. They wanna be Mr. Clean? We got a tape<\/em> where one of our sisters called up and said, (Imitates voice of Concerned Relative) I\u2019m (unintelligible word)\u2013 I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m so concerned\u2013 I got a\u2013 I got a member of my family over there, and I\u2019m afraid they\u2019re beatin\u2019 \u2018em over there. He says, oh, I know how you feel. Said, I thought it was socialist, so the old fucker, he lays these Christian garments off for a moment, he thinks he\u2019s talking to a socialist. He said they\u2019re not Marxist. No, they\u2019re\u2013 they\u2019re not Marxists like we are.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Laughs)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s the last<\/em> fuckin\u2019 thing he wants to have haunting him, but I got me a plan for that shit, too. He goes on tryin\u2019 to convert a socialist, said they\u2019re not really socialist. They don\u2019t\u2013 they don\u2019t\u2013 they don\u2019t support any socialist movement around the world, they\u2013 he\u2013 he just works for his own people. He makes himself look like the Marxist<\/em>, and he tries to discredit me and make me look like a capitalist<\/em>, I\u2019m gonna nail<\/em> his ass for that, \u2018cause that was done last we\u2013 that was done last month.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Woo!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s after he met Jesus<\/em>, and he\u2019s still<\/em> sayin\u2019 he\u2019s a Marxist<\/em>. Don\u2019t fuck with me, baby, \u2018cause you better get up early in the morning to outfuck this old fox.<\/p>\n

Crowd: (<\/strong>Cheers)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Voice drops) Stand up, and you get to go home. (Pause) There good man who\u2019s tired of meeting sittin\u2019 on his feet first so we get to go home, \u2018cause a good man stood up. Put your hands to your neighbor and touch them with some compassion. (Pause) You\u2019re in the best possible place you could be. You got purpose<\/em> on your life, and thank you for your patience and standing\u2013<\/p>\n

Man in crowd:<\/strong> I got\u2013 I got one uh\u2013 There\u2019s one question. Was this uh, would this stop the other co-conspirators from working with him, this action?<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I think it\u2019ll make him slightly nervous. Particularly if they say the newspaper\u2019s gonna print it. We can make our own newspaper, and he can\u2019t sue us. Anything that\u2019s made a matter of public record in a suit<\/em> is open to the whole goddamn world. He<\/em> can\u2019t sue us for printin\u2019 anything<\/em>. We don\u2019t have to say nothin\u2019 else, but just that shit. (Short laugh) And pass it from door to door to door to door. Here\u2019s what Tim Stoen did, here\u2019s what Tim Stoen\u2013 here\u2019s what the court case, the suit, declares what Tim Stoen did under oath<\/em> and penalty<\/em> of perjury<\/em>! \u2018Cause every damn thing there that he told is the truth<\/em>. We don\u2019t lie on these fuckers, you can just tell the truth. So shit, we don\u2019t mind, \u2018cause our attorney said we had all these (laughs) ways of defendin\u2019 ourselves so\u2013 and the funny<\/em> thing about<\/em> it is, that not one<\/em> gun you gave him ever\u2013 ever was sent here. So let him<\/em> account where all those guns are. That\u2019s his<\/em> damn problem. Right<\/em>?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I want\u2013 I want the authorities to ask him where all the guns<\/em> are. What\u2019d Tim Stoen do<\/em> with all of our goddamn guns. Ha-ha! He\u2019s got Jesus? Let him explain that, and explain how he was a Marxist last month. That\u2019s good. All right, my darlings. Tell three great things, three great things that happened, miracles, scientific socialism of the mind.<\/p>\n

(Tape edit. Loud high-pitched noise, ululation, cheers from crowd.)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yes! One phrase, that\u2019s good. Don\u2019t ever use a phrase \u201ccrazy nigger.\u201d Not for a while. Don\u2019t ever admit you even know it. If anybody asks you, what\u2019s that? I don\u2019t know that word. I\u2019m black<\/em>. Hm? If any spy wanted to come in, that could (unintelligible) play a little bit with that. And we don\u2019t believe in suicide, and that\u2019s the damn truth. They have to kill<\/em> us, they want us out of the way, don\u2019t they? Good night. Much love, much love, much love. Nine o\u2019clock, now let\u2019s be on the job at nine, so uprising is at eight.<\/p>\n

Male:<\/strong> The boat crew\u2013 The boat crew has to leave at seven.<\/p>\n

Another Male:<\/strong> The boat crew\u2013 The boat crew oughta leave at seven.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> The boat crew has to leave at seven. They\u2019ll make it up to you, the other time your\u2013<\/p>\n

End of tape<\/strong><\/p>\n

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