{"id":27422,"date":"2013-06-16T00:20:06","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:20:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27422"},"modified":"2024-07-17T14:24:42","modified_gmt":"2024-07-17T21:24:42","slug":"q322","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27422","title":{"rendered":"Q322 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Jones:<\/b> \u2013just arrived in Bucharest, Hungary yesterday with a delegation from the Zimbabwe pet\u2013 Patriotic Front of the African National Union, ZANU. Mr. [Robert] Mugabe \u2013 long known for his communist inspiration to the people of Zimbabwe and one of his\u2013 the revolutionary heroes of the Rhodesian country \u2013 is the guest of the Romanian Communist Party committee. Mr. Joshua Nkomo who\u2013 other cha\u2013 chairman of the Patriotic Front is visiting Bulgaria and is expected to go on to Moscow and firm strong<\/i> ties\u2013 firm up strong<\/i> ties of absolute mutual<\/i> defense. I said, Buda\u2013 Bu\u2013 uh, I wrongly said Bucharest. That would\u2019ve been Romania. I was thinking of Budapest, which would\u2019ve been another ally of the Soviet Union.<\/p>\n

Tanzania is today considering a general mobilization following the Uganda invasion of its territory with heavy artillery and tanks, according to the Western press, if you can believe anything it says. The capitalist press. Uganda announced yesterday that it has annexed the segment of Tanzanian territory it has long claimed west of Lake Victoria. President [Julius] Nyerere, the Tanzanian president, left Mozambique\u2013 left for Mozambique\u2013 that Mozaikan\u2013 rather left uh, Communist Mozambique today after talks last night with the Mozambique President [Samora Machel]. Tanzania has asked Kenya to cut Uganda oil supplies to pressure it into withdrawing<\/i> its forces from Tanzania\u2013 (pause) Ta\u2013 Tanzanian territory. Meanwhile Idi Amin of Uganda, that the capitalist world has made such a friend, made such a frump\u2013 uh, uh, a circus about him, always making him appear like some ignorant gorilla, has congratulated his armed forces on the victory<\/i> of annexing the strip<\/i> of Tanzanian territory that rightfully belongs to Uganda. In Radio Uganda, report Mr. Amin called the Tanzanian forces cowards, and he said they run away when they are confronted. A Mozambique newspaper said today that the Ugandan attack against Tanzania was aimed at weakened efforts by the five African front line states to free South Africa from the white minority rule.<\/p>\n

In Iran, some religious leaders are talking about forming their own army, and it\u2013 it looks like it will get off the ground to fight the Shah [Reva Pahlavi]. The Shah\u2019s days are numbered, according to even the Western press. Oil production has been cut<\/i> by two-thirds<\/i>. They\u2019re only producing thirty percent the oil they was\u2013 they were because of the strike of the workers, because of the oil workers\u2019 strike, which is also causing oil or\u2013 exports (unintelligible word) vital to America to cease and may increase gasoline prices any moment.<\/p>\n

Radio London says that, within days there may be a devaluation of the American dollar. They did not signi\u2013 signify how much, but this will have a grave effect on all<\/i> who hold American dollars. The only safety<\/i> will be in gold. So we must look and think in that direct way.<\/p>\n

Radio Hanoi said today that China has moved thousands of troops up to the Chinese-Vietnamese border yesterday. There were a series of border incidents between the country, but Vietnam held its own against the aggression of the Chinese mainland.<\/p>\n

Lebanon Foreign and Defense Minister was a tac\u2013 target of an assassination attempt shortly before his departure for the Baghdad summit. The Lebanese official nearly esca\u2013 it\u2013 only\u2013 narrowly escaped injure\u2013 injury when gunmen opened fire on his car outside his Beirut home. Beirut Radio said that a number of his army guards, as well as several of the attackers, were wounded in the shootout. A major reshuffling will be taking place in the Lebanese army.<\/p>\n

The longest space mission in history has come to an end. Two Soviet as\u2013 cosmonauts returned safely to earth today in a soft landing, a development in space that has not been able to be achieved by any other country a\u2013 after spending nearly one hundred and forty days in orbit. The Tass news agency said the space capsule landed in Soviet central Asia, and the preliminary check-up indicated they are both in good health.<\/p>\n

An American publisher, John McGraw, has denied the report that he acted as an intermediary in a secret South Africa effort to buy the Star<\/i> newspaper, located in Washington, D.C. But proof<\/i> shows otherwise, that the South African fascist regime, upheld by our tax dollars which should weigh us down with guilt, the\u2013 the proof shows otherwise. The evidence says that Mr. McGraw tried to buy the Washington newspaper with eleven and a half million dollars supplied by the fascist Pretorian government that is upheld by American capitalism, where our people live in co\u2013 cancen\u2013 concentration camps, and are beat to death<\/i> constantly. It\u2019s not just a one-day occurrence, but constantly. They\u2019re beaten off by dogs. (Pause)<\/p>\n

I was hoping I could find something<\/i> that would indicate to you how vicious\u2013 how vicious it is<\/i>. One case that\u2013 in the south<\/i> of the United States, even, and they do this in\u2013 in the south<\/i> United States, you know what the hell they do in Pretoria<\/i>, but uh, it\u2013 it indicated, that uh\u2013 (Pause) it indicated that (Pause) three officers have been ar\u2013 in\u00ad\u2013 arrested for beating three black men in a Southern state, US, under the arms\u2013 every place\u2013 no, with exception of the armpits, they were bleated to a\u2013 beaten to a pulp<\/i>. Then they were hung on a tree and stoned to death, screaming<\/i> for mercy. This is the kind of racism that is prevailing America, and is being upheld in the Union of South Africa. Horror to think about.<\/p>\n

The longest space mission, as I said, in history has come to an end. The Tass news agency said their paid\u2013 space capsule landed in Soviet central Asia in a tremendous soft landing that has cracked into areas of space venture that the world has been trying to do, but only the Soviet avant garde was able to achieve.<\/p>\n

An American publisher, as I told you, John McGraw, tried<\/i> to buy this uh\u2013 Washington newspaper with eleven and a half million dollars supplied by the fascist multinationals of USA and the Pretorian capital of Union of South Africa\u2019s fascist government. The money allegedly came from a secret fund in the South African ministry of information.<\/p>\n

At a press conference in Washington, Secretary of State Cyrus Vance, said today that the United States support the Shah of Iran\u2019s efforts to retorn\u2013 return order to his country. That means that the Secretary of State Cyrus Vance of the US supports the fact that nearly two<\/i> hundred thousand Iranians in the last two and a half weeks have been murdered, another two hundred thousand have disappeared, and perhaps as close<\/i> to a hundred thousand are being tortured at this time. That\u2019s<\/i> the kind of government that some of you long<\/i> to look for, and would want to go back to. For me, I would rather die by any<\/i> death than uh, to go back into a mess like that. He has also said, the Secretary of State, that the United States believes the Iranian leader is doing a fine<\/i> job and the right thing in trying to make his country modern. By\u2013 by destroying his cities? By burning people alive in the theater? His\u2013 uh, the Shah\u2019s secret police set fire to a theater that ended up in the death of four hundred and one people, trying to blame it on the Communists, but even the news broke out and he was finally proven guilty. Is that the way the United States approves of building order and uh, justice? Of course it is, and of course that\u2019s the way they\u2019ll do it in United States when the people finally demand their rights.<\/p>\n

Meanwhile, in Iran. Thousands<\/i> of\u2013 Thousands of people continue to protest and demonstrate against the dictator\u2013 dictatorship of the Shah and his fascist repressive regime.<\/p>\n

Moscow. The Soviet Union and Vietnam have signed a treaty of mutual defense and friendship and cooperation. It is the first<\/i> such treaty between Moscow and Southeast Asia. What it amounts to is that, in case Vietnam is attacked by China, the Soviet Union\u2013 or any<\/i> other nation, the Soviet Union will come to their rescue.<\/p>\n

The Soviet Union seems to mean business about this bi\u2013 uh, this factor of defending the liberation of people. The evidence also revealed many other aspects of the department of information manipulation of its funds. Excuse me, I\u2019m in\u2013 I gave you wrong uh, news here.<\/p>\n

Major political bombshell has exploded in the South African political scene, after a supreme judge has published a damaging evidence of corruption and the massive misuse of public money by the former department of information of the fascist state of the Union of South Africa, which was our tax dollars, and we all should feel guilty for supplying them tax dollars to put our black brothers and sisters. Imagine your son, your daughter, your husband, your wife, in a concentration camp. Barefoot, unable to get enough to eat, imagine them crowded into the ho\u2013 uh, great barbed wire sections, and I imagine then you\u2019d have a little bit of feeling<\/i> against the United States. (Pause) The scandal which involves some of the leading political figures in the country seem certain to cause the resignation (Pause) from the government and to also have profound effects on the unity of the ruling National Party. If it does<\/i>, it will constitute the biggest threat the white African government has faced during its 30 years as the dictatorship in office\u2013 that has been held<\/i> in office by the United States tax money. The judge<\/i> has wa\u2013 was appointed by the new South African president [Marais Viljoen] earlier this year to a\u2013 head a one-man commission of inquiry in possible foreign currency contribution by the former department of information. His appointment followed weeks of newspaper speculation that the department had se\u2013 secretly<\/i> been using taxpayers\u2019 money for a number of controversial, not to say highly<\/i> dubious projects. The inquiries have been\u2013 have now shown, as the judge himself put it, that there has been improper application of taxpayers\u2019 money running into millions<\/i> of dollars. He also said there are indications of corrupting rela\u2013 corruption relating to public funds. The judge released hundreds<\/i> of pages of affidavits given under oath as to how to public\u2013 uh, how public money was used. He totally<\/i> ignored an appeal by the prime minister [Pieter Willem Botha] to not divulge the evidence he had amassed. A brave judge. The most damaging fact that he has revealed is that an attempt was made by the government to secretly use taxpayers’ money to buy out the country\u2019s major opposition newspaper, including the Sunday Times<\/i>, and to buy several newspapers and television in the USA, where they could continue to propagate apartheid, racist separation as the solution in America too. When this plan failed, they used an even larger<\/i> amount of public money, this time totaling fourteen million dollars, to set up a pro-government language newspaper. The evidence showed that among those involved in this secret project to buy out the newspaper were former<\/i> Prime Minister [Johannes] Vorster, close al\u2013 ally of Adolf Hitler, who was prime minister until the last few weeks, who is now the state president, the former powerful minister of information and the former head of the secret police. The evidence also revealed many other aspects of the department of information manipulation of its secret funds. One<\/i> man, a lawyer who represented the police during the inquest into the death of Steve Biko, the black consciousness leader, is director of a front<\/i> company set up by the department of information, closely<\/i> with the Central Intelligence Agency, funded by the USA, to loan them money through Swiss bank accounts. There is one<\/i> positive aspect to the story. It\u2013 it is that it shows that the\u2013 the resilience of the South African press, which despite<\/i> the many strengths under which it labors, have played a key<\/i> role in exposing this scandal<\/i> of the fascist operation that USA has brought upon the African continent in the name of Union of South Africa.<\/p>\n

Rhodesian armed assaults into Zambia continue, yesterday coundi\u2013 coming as close as ten miles from the capital of Lusaka, Zambia. Pressure is mounting inside Zambia on President K\u2013 Kenneth\u2013 Ken\u2013 Kaunda [Kenneth Kaunda] to retaliate against the raids launched on guerilla bases in his country. He has consistently refused retaliatory action, but still fully supports the guerillas who are using Zambia as their base. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Ethiopia has introduced a draft resolution in the United Nations Assembly, the colonization committee, to condemn states that cooperate with South Africa. Among those countries singled out by the draft are Britain, France, West Germany, and the United States imperialist and Zionist Israeli.<\/p>\n

In Baghdad, at the summit conference, Arab leaders have approved eleven thousand million dollars to be used to oppose the Camp David sell-out by [U.S. President Jimmy] Carter and dictator Anwar Sadat of Egypt and dictator [Menachem] Begin of Zionist Israel. Iraq promised the money to improve Arab military strength against Israel and yo\u2013 her US imperialist backers. Attending the meeting are the leaders of 20 Arab nations. Never have the Arab nations been so unified or fractured from the United States. They have been completely<\/i> removed from any sort of friendly alliance towards the United States by the sellout of Camp David. You know that sellout. When US and Egypt and Israel got together and decided to\u2013 what to do with the West Bank of (Pause) off of Jordan, which belonged to Jordan<\/i>. It was taken away by Egypt by fascist aggression by Jordan. And the Gaza Strip. And the southern part of Israel<\/i>, uh, Leb\u2013 Lebanon, that\u2013 the southern part of Lebanon. It was taken away by the Israelis. The\u2013 Lebanon should have had something to say<\/i> about their country that was under the conqueror\u2019s heel. Also, the\u2013 Jordan<\/i> had the w\u2013 every right<\/i> to be present at the discussion that\u2013 what was going to happen to their territory. Iraq promised the money to improve, as I say, military strength against Israel and all of her US allies and their imperialist lackeys. Attending the meeting are the leaders of 20 Arab nations and the Palestinian Liberation Organization, PLO, all<\/i> seeking a common position against the peace move of Egypt and Is\u2013 and Israel. Egypt is not attending. This is a lot of money. Eleven thousand million dollars. That\u2019s a lot of money to oppose US in her imperialist moves in the Near East.<\/p>\n

Thus ends the commentary of the news for the day. We want you to listen closely now, very closely, so you have new study\u2013 there\u2019ll be new study from 7:45 to quarter of uh, eight, and uh- no, to (stumbles over words) quarter of nine, and quarter of nine, there\u2019ll be language till quarter of ten<\/i>. But we do<\/i> want also<\/i> for you to listen now<\/i>. It\u2019s important that you listen. We want some review in the class tonight of the (Pause) question here on how you deal with strangers who are coming in to spy out your liberty. That is important. Because we know<\/i> that CIA have been here, the government has told us so. (unintelligible\u00a0 word) has told \u2018em that much by the US embassy. Take great<\/i> care when you are in United S\u2013 in\u2013 in Georgetown on duties. If (unintelligible word), please write, we will deeply appreciate it. They are vicious<\/i>, and they never stop. We have to keep ever on the watchman\u2019s wall. (Unintelligible word) wall. Please, I urge this, do not fail. Do not fail. Take this into consideration now. Fast as you can, bring those\u2013 Kay [Nelson], bring up any names you can think of particularly in the staff of San\u2013 Los Angeles, but\u2013 anybody. San Francisco. Los Angeles. We\u2019ve got<\/i> to get those letters out or the addresses out. Uh, messages from you. Whatever. We\u2019ve got to get them moving quick. We\u2019ve got to get a letter from you moving quick<\/i> to them, so that they\u2019ll have time to move back. We can in meantime say we will have (pause) hundreds of letters coming. We didn\u2019t feel it was necessary for justice to have to call on all of our supporters, but we will, if this<\/i>\u2013 if these lies that these people, all former radicals \u2013 and still some of them no doubt involved in radical activity \u2013 continue their actions. Thank you so very much.<\/p>\n

(Pause) (Tape edit)<\/p>\n

Number of you have worked for people and served them almost like slaves. They might write a letter. (unintelligible word) that your church, that you wouldn\u2019t belong to anything but a excellent church, and you\u2019re behind them all the way. They\u2019re behind\u2013 behind you all the way. Some of you worked hard<\/i> for some of these people. Perhaps just a moment of compassion might slip through them. It\u2019s important<\/i>. It\u2019s not the end of the world, we can bring our people to freedom, but it is<\/i> important, very important, that we get this done without uh\u2013 much loss of time. I urge<\/i> you tonight, don\u2019t wait tomorrow\u2013 don\u2019t wait till tomorrow. It may be too late. I urge<\/i> you, do it now. Come to the radio room. Thank you so much.<\/p>\n

(tape breakup)<\/p>\n

\u2013news will begin at quarter of eight, revolving around the new guest and current events, and then tonight\u2019s our Ru\u2013 our Russian language. Quarter of nine to quarter of ten. (Pause) I think there shall be nothing thereafter, but I want people\u2019s helpers to see that everyone is in the meeting. I want people\u2019s helpers to see that all<\/i> are in the meetings. Uh, when I walk through, I found some not in the meetings last evening. And automatically, that\u2019s a subject for public service. Peer responsibility, to hold up the standard. I urge you now, letter to NBC and the letter to the Los Angeles D.A. [John Van De Camp]. Sarah [Harriet Sarah Tropp], please? (Long pause)<\/p>\n

Part 2<\/b><\/p>\n

Jones: <\/b>He said she never saw anything that touched her so much. The fishman is also very popular in the country, the snakeman, and he said he will come back and teach Stephan [Jones] all he knows about capturing snakes. In the meantime, don\u2019t you try to capture the snake. Stay away from it. Leave it up to Steve, leave it up to Steve to know how to handle it, because the\u2013 (tape edit) the equalities in the uh, defend them from the\u2013 the uh\u2013 Excuse me, someone\u2019s talking to me. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Attention, attention. I felt that you needed a little entertainment, so there\u2019ll be a nan\u2013 dance<\/i> from nine uh\u2013 at 9:30\u2013 at 9:15 on till 12 o\u2019clock. We do ask that you conduct yourself as socialists should. You are impressing, I wish I could tell you, how many of you are impressing socialism. Socialists here and abroad by not engaging in liquor and being a come-on. We\u2019ve had the feedback that a lot has been gained, and your courtesy<\/i> helping people up and showing as much warm to Mom, even though she \u2013 “Moms” Mabley [likely Bertha Cook]\u2013 Mabley \u2013 is stronger, older than you, always<\/i> show courtesy, utmost of courtesy for uh, this uh\u2013 the\u2013 for our seniors. Smile a great deal whenever you come in, but you need<\/i> to listen tonight under the school tent till you have it down, how to deal with strangers. The man seems friendly, but I am not sure. How can you be sure of anything, when so many of our own relatives\u2013 it\u2019s too painful for me to talk about. Because nobody<\/i> could\u2019ve been a better father than I was, but she [daughter Suzanne Jones] turned and\u2013 for money<\/i>, we know, for money. And did the dirty work, they tried to put (pause) Ted (Pause) We have to restrict because of the mal\u2013 malice of those who are trying to destroy people, like uh, [Jim] McElvane, and uh, Florida [Smith] and others. They won\u2019t<\/i> succeed, but it is a one hell<\/i> of a\u2013 one classic<\/i> hell of conspiracy. I have never seen the like of it in my life. But things are turning for us. We\u2019re gaining friends. Today, the doctors raved about us, and the snake handler who handles the venom for all of South America, uh, for research studies, was overwhelmed. And Margaret Ackman, who meets the prime minister, Prime Minister [Forbes] Burnham at 7:30 tonight, is absolutely sold<\/i> on the place. You\u2013 you\u2013 you won her by your love. (Pause)<\/p>\n

From Dr. Schag\u2013 Dr. [Larry] Schacht, who is here by my side now, who\u2013 when it was like the fairground, he\u2019d never se\u2013 seen anything so just and so fair and so lovely in his life. And the last doctor (unintelligible word) had to make two radio broadcasts just to get him (slurs over words) doctor the praises that he had to see, and had to say. Anyway, it\u2019s important that we know how to talk and who we\u2019re talking to. We\u2019ve got to know whether wh\u2013 when you\u2019re talking to the Russians, they\u2019ll be a different talk. We are (unintelligible word) you tomorrow, for tomorrow\u2019s visitors w\u2013 even though he tell\u2013 says he is our friend, my daughter also said she was a friend. We\u2019re urging you<\/i> to be very cautious and don\u2019t engage in conversation. Say hello. You know, hello. Understand?<\/p>\n

Male:<\/b> Mmm-hmm. [Yes]<\/p>\n

End of tape<\/b><\/p>\n

Tape originally posted March 2008<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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