{"id":27432,"date":"2013-06-16T00:20:09","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:20:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27432"},"modified":"2014-04-04T21:41:05","modified_gmt":"2014-04-04T21:41:05","slug":"q357","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27432","title":{"rendered":"Q357 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\nTo read the Tape Summary, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).<\/p>\n

(This tape was transcribed by Vicki Perry. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/i><\/p>\n

Male 1:<\/strong> \u2013Father\u2019s voice called her to get up three times. It took\u2013 third time, she said Father called out loud, and she jumped to her feet to discover the house was blazing<\/em> and filled with smoke. She woke up the rest of the children, and they had to go right through the fire to get to the front door. When they got outside, they were all right, but realized the baby<\/em> was still inside, asleep. My young boy went back in, right through the blazing fire to get the baby, and they came outside without a burn<\/em> on them, she says. Father is the one and only<\/em> God there is, and no<\/em> one can take that away from me. None of my children were even singed<\/em> by the fire or harmed by the smoke. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Everyone wants blessings and protections like that, and miracles like you\u2019ve witnessed here time and time again, every day. But not everyone is willing to do all they can to further God\u2019s work. Giving in tithes and offering is like priming a pump, so that blessings can flow from God to you. If you don\u2019t prime the pump enough, you cut off your very source of life and health, as we have seen happen so<\/em> many times with those who have failed, who have held back and robbed God. Remember, we reap what we sow. And this is the most fertile ground on earth, the best place for sowing our seeds of giving. Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Is your treasure out there in a world with material possessions and self-indulgence, lustful living, or is it here, where there\u2019s greater love than you have ever known? Now is the time for you to decide. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Everyone, take an envelope and show where your heart is. And there\u2019s a special blessing for those who make their greatest sacra\u2013 (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Child:<\/strong> And when I\u2013 I seen a bird in front of my house. And uh, I (unintelligible word) I asked my sister to go get some food for it and she went to go get some. And uh, (unintelligible) some food too. When I got it, I dropped the bird. I sure did and my (unintelligible) said go get the picture of Jim, and\u2013 and she got it and I put it on the bird and it came back alive!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Archie Ijames: <\/strong>Yes, yes, yes. Yes. The beautiful face of a child. Glory be.<\/p>\n

Elder Hill:<\/strong> Peace. I\u2019m Elder C.C. Hill out of Bakersfield, California. And I love you, otherwise I wouldn\u2019t have (unintelligible word) that would uplift you. I want to know you\u2013 I want you to know things that have happened to me since I\u2019ve known Jim Jones. (unintelligible) of the house of God. (unintelligible) First, he healed me of a cancer. He also healed my sister who had been wearing a brace for seventeen<\/em> years. Healed my wife of heart trouble and eyes (unintelligible)\u2013 I don\u2019t have to thread a needle, but (unintelligible word) knowing<\/em> him as long as I have, I want you to know this. I have his spirit. I\u2019m here to uplift you, faith is the thing that you lack. We\u2019ve been bringing (unintelligible word) so<\/em> long that you just can\u2019t get away from it.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Elder Hill:<\/strong> I want to see you get away from it. There\u2019s people in Bakersfield that know me. They knew when I was out in the world. And I too<\/em> used to bet a little, if you wanna know. They know that I did it. When I turned to be a minister, they couldn\u2019t hardly accept me. But knowing Jim Jones and (unintelligible word) that I loved him so that we going to see what he look like and what he\u2019s done, so that\u2013 A whole lot of them are here today. Because I loved him, he did for me, and I went back and let \u2018em know it. Now a lady called me the other day, at 87 years old. She\u2019d been operated on. I didn\u2019t want her to see her operated but she did. We went there and put Jim Jones and called on his name. First, I went to the hospital. I say, you won\u2019t be there long. I believe<\/em> that. I got the faith! Five days, she was home<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Elder Hill:<\/strong> I went to her home, after she come home, she said I want you to prayer for me. [I] Said, I\u2019ll meditate and call on Jim Jones<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Elder Hill:<\/strong> So I put the picture on her. She says, Oh, I want some of that oil. I said, I have a mission and that\u2019s what we use our money for. I\u2019m like Jim Jones. I don\u2019t get a penny. We will send and get that oil. Costs five dollars. You know, I thought they give it to you. Say, no, but we will\u2013 we will send and get it. So we did<\/em>. Now I\u2019ve rubbed it on her. She called another lady that\u2019s got diabetes. Hasn\u2019t slept in, I don\u2019t know how many days and how many nights. So she called me and told me she wanted me to come to prayer for her. So, I went\u2013 I went there and told her\u2013 she\u2019s been here twice. I told her, I says you lack faith. You were where you would\u2013 you\u2019d kept going and been under his teachings, you would\u2019ve been healed<\/em> by now. For now, if you believe in Jim Jones, then I will lay his picture on you and call on him. Otherwise I won\u2019t. She says, you know, I believe it. So I put it on her. That night she slept fairly well, she says. But she called and let \u2018em know that after that next<\/em> night, that she slept better than she had for months<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Archie Ijames: <\/strong>Yeah. The name of Jim Jones!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Elder Hill:<\/strong> The name of Jim Jones on there. I want to say this, they have to be obedient. Everything hasn\u2019t gone from my body, but I\u2019m like\u2013 I\u2019m like the\u2013 the\u2013 the old patriarch (unintelligible word) (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Voice in congregation<\/strong>: Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause)<\/p>\n

Low voice<\/strong>: State your name and (unintelligible).<\/p>\n

Millie Cunningham:<\/strong> Okay. Peace and love. My name is Millie Cunningham. I am from Redwood Valley. It\u2019s so nice to be here this morning in the living of God. You know, this morning when I walked in the church, I always can feel the love of God.<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation<\/strong>: Yeah! Oh yeah!<\/p>\n

Cunningham:<\/strong> You know, my sister (unintelligible word) had a hard (unintelligible word). She come to me this morning and she said, I\u2019m coming with you<\/em>. She said, since you been gone with this man you talking about, you don\u2019t even favor yourself. I told her this morning, if you just only<\/em> know\u2013 if you just only know what my Father do. What he do, he\u2019ll do for all. He don\u2019t love no one no better than he do the other.<\/p>\n

Voice in congregation<\/strong>: Amen!<\/p>\n

Cunningham:<\/strong> I just wanna tell y\u2019all somethin\u2019. On the eighth of May, I moved to the valley. When (unintelligible)\u2013 he wouldn\u2019t take an egg or anything out of the box. I said when they loaded, I know my Father will take care. Did you know Dad came here and parked the truck? He didn\u2019t leave until Saturday some time. And he didn\u2019t get in the valley until Sunday night. He did not unload my things until about four o\u2019clock Monday afternoon. It wasn\u2019t an egg, it wasn\u2019t a piece of meat\u2013 it still had ice on it. You know it wasn\u2019t nobody but<\/em> my Father.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Cunningham:<\/strong> And another thing. Last Thursday, it was a week ago. Last Wednesday night was a week ago, we was in service. When I sit there and I listen, I don\u2019t want to miss a thing. Thursday\u2013 Wednesday night, we was on him. We have such a precious Father. Such a sweet Father.<\/p>\n

Voices in congregation<\/strong>: Yeah!<\/p>\n

Cunningham:<\/strong> We stopped to eat. When we stopped to eat, Father was standing there. I went over to my group to eat. All at once I felt something pushing. I said to Paula, you knows, sister, I come back. I went into the bathroom. I never seen so much of filth. So much of blood. When I got up, I was kind of \u2018fraid. Somethin\u2019 said \u201cDon\u2019t be afraid.\u201d Say, \u201cEverything\u2019s gone be all right.\u201d<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Cunningham:<\/strong> Do you know I feel all right! I feel just like I\u2019m 16. And, when I come to Father, I couldn\u2019t even use my own. But now (unintelligible)?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Cunningham:<\/strong> I feel just like I\u2019m sixteen. I\u2019m in a new world! Who to thank? My Father.<\/p>\n

Voice in congregation<\/strong>: Yeah!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Cunningham:<\/strong> Okay.
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Caroline Washington:<\/strong> Peace and love, everyone. My name is Caroline Washington. I want to thank God for new hope and new life in the church of the day. I have been in so many churches before, but I didn\u2019t find God until I came to Peoples Temple.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Washington:<\/strong> He surely took me out of that (unintelligible) place. He put my feet<\/em> on a rock to stay. He put a song in my<\/em> soul today, and now, I can sing. Hallelujah!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers) (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Washington:<\/strong> I\u2019m going to sing a song, \u201cGod is Real.\u201d (tape edit) Because to me, Jim Jones is real. I\u2019ll change the words to that.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Washington:<\/strong> (sings) There are some things\/ I do not know\/ There are some places\/ That I cannot go\/ But I am sure\/ Of this one thing\/ Jim Jones is real\/ And I can feel him within\/ Oh, yes Jim is real\/ He\u2019s so real in my soul\/ Jim Jones is real\/ For he has washed and made me whole\/ His love for me\/ Is like pure gold\/ Jim Jones is real\/ Oh I can feel \/ Him in my soul\/ And some folks may doubt\/ Some folks may scorn\/ All can desert\/ And leave me alone\/ But I am sure\/ Of just one thing\/ Jim Jones is real\/ Oh I can feel\/ Him within\/ Oh yes Jim is real\/ He\u2019s so real in my soul\/ And Jim Jones is real\/ For he has washed and made me whole\/ His love for me\/ Is like pure gold\/ Jim Jones is real\/ Oh I can feel\/ Him in my soul\/ And I cannot tell\/ Oh how you felt\/ When Jim Jones took\/ Your pains away\/ But I can say\u2013
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Woman 1:<\/strong> Thanks for giving all of (unintelligible) again. I\u2019m thankful (unintelligible) that what he have done for me. Because true (unintelligible) have taken this child to the doctor. One that gets tired of me, he\u2019ll send me to the other. And I\u2019d just taken him last Monday to the clinic. And I thought they\u2019d take him by Friday. And the spirit just did lead me to get up and take him. I don\u2019t know why, but I knew Pastor Jim was with me all the time. And my baby was just getting littler and littler. He was just losing weight by the day. So he\u2019s been four years old, he weighed 34 pounds, shoes and clothes all on. And so I just thank you so much.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Woman 1:<\/strong> We don\u2019t know what he (unintelligible word under cheers) out here. (Pause) I couldn\u2019t wait to get back home, (unintelligible) to call my mother in Louisiana to tell her. And I know my phone will be (unintelligible) \u2018cause I don\u2019t call all of my people, just about on you. (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)<\/p>\n

Male 1:<\/strong> What the dear sister was talking about was that this very young child spit up a cancer, was healed of a cancer by the mighty power of God yesterday. All the way in the back of the room!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Male 1:<\/strong> All the way in the back, was (unintelligible) that child, spit up that cancer! Hallelujah! Yeah!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Male 1:<\/strong> (loudly, excited) Yeah! Ah, it\u2019s beautiful! You should be able to sympathize with that mother. Praise his name. (low voice) State your name. (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Pearl Cole:<\/strong> Okay. I want to say peace to you all. My name is Pearl Cole of Los Angeles. I want to say today that I\u2019m very happy. And I\u2019m so glad I can say I know who God is. For he don\u2019t\u2013 I can always say I know who he is. I know because the things he has done for me. He\u2019s proved who he is. I can say it\u2019s because of my son. It\u2019s nine months ago, I met Father downstairs, and I told him that my son was in Korea overseas in a prison camp. He asked me not to worry about it. And I didn\u2019t, \u2018cause I believe him. Two months later, the news came here to this church, on a Thursday night, that my son had been freed from this prison.<\/p>\n

Archie Ijames: <\/strong>Hey! Thank you, Father! Thank you, Father! God! Mighty God. Hey-hey! Oh, God can do anything<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Cole:<\/strong> I\u2013 I was so happy, but I know whatever he said, he\u2019d never leave it \u2018til it\u2019s done. He was freed from (unintelligible)\u2013 from this prison then. He was out. But he wasn\u2019t free. And they had said that he might be two or three years alone before he would be able to set his foot back on the States ground again. But I tell you, that\u2019s not what my Father said.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Cole:<\/strong> This last past Monday\u2013 at (unintelligible word) Monday afternoon, I was sitting there in my living room and I was lying down. The phone rang. And I picked it up. And the voice on the other end said, \u201cMomma?\u201d<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Cole:<\/strong> I says to him\u2013 I said, \u201cBoy, where are you at?\u201d He says, \u201cMomma, I\u2019m here in the States.\u201d He says \u201cI\u2019m in Hawthorne, California.\u201d I thought<\/em> I was dreamin\u2019!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCole:<\/strong> But he was here and I can tell you, Tuesday evening, around about six o\u2019clock, my son came to Los Angeles.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCole:<\/strong> He\u2019s a free man. He came home. They said he wouldn\u2019t be free, but my<\/em> Father\u2013 my God said he would be free! Free<\/em>! Free<\/em>! Free<\/em>! He\u2019s home!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCole:<\/strong> He said he would free him and then he freed<\/em> him! I\u2019m no Tylarene Sharp [phonetic], but I just want to say this\u2013 just one verse of this song, was so long it been a part of me, and now<\/em> I know the meaning of it. Just one verse of it.
\nThis love God is\u2013 \/ It\u2019s flowing out today\/ A perfect love in all God\u2019s perfect ways\/ Not all in here\/ but out in roaring flames\/ I guess God loves no mortal man can stand\/ This love Jim is\/ is flowing out today\/ A perfect love, in all Jim\u2019s perfect ways\/ Not all in here\u2013
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\nWoman 2:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to hear a testimony from Brother Crane, from Texas, who\u2019s had a miraculous healing through Pastor Jim Jones. He came here blind and crippled.
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\nCrane:<\/strong> My friends\u2013 My friends, when I came<\/em> here the first time, I was wheeled in, in a wheelchair<\/em>. But thank God, I can walk<\/em> now.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> But spiritually I am as strong as\u2013 or stronger<\/em> than I\u2019ve ever been.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> And I believed in God. And if I didn\u2019t believe in this man, Jones<\/em>, I would not have spent six hundred dollars to come over here twice, just to see<\/em> him.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> In fact of the business, I saw him before I came<\/em> here. And uh, just\u2013 as he is now, that\u2019s the way I saw him. I heard him say, well, how many people would give a thousand dollars? That was my second trip over here. And uh, it\u2019s kind of slow and I said I\u2019ll live. And I did<\/em>.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> And I tell you what happened. I uh, was sitting down one night, the church had turned me off on account of him.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> And they had cut my salary from fifteen hundred down to two<\/em>. Two hundred dollars a month. And that wouldn\u2019t pay my notes. (laughs) But I was sitting there, and one night a man come in and say, I have a check here for ya, for two thousand and five hundred dollars. That\u2019s what\u2013
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> But my wife said, that\u2019s not enough. Three thousand or nothing. He said, well, here\u2019s the three thousand.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and laughter)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> And so he give me three thousand and\u2013 and the other<\/em> thousand, I don\u2019t know where it come from.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and laughter)
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\nWoman near mike:<\/strong> And 400.
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\nCrane:<\/strong> But I know<\/em> I got four thousand and four hundred dollars from somewhere<\/em>.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> Now I believe in telling the truth, and I don\u2019t have to lie. This is the truth. In the hospital, on the fourth day of June 1972, I died. I mean I died<\/em>! And they wanted my wife to sign (unintelligible word) for autopsy. And wanted to know what kind of her\u2013 what undertaker and so on. And she said, I don\u2019t believe he\u2019s gone<\/em> yet.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> Said well, if he comes\u2013 if he comes back<\/em>, he\u2019ll be too old. He\u2013 There won\u2019t be anything for him to\u2013 to bill<\/em> to. She said, Sarah had a baby when she was 90 and he\u2019s only 86.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> And I heard her from the other world, telling me, don\u2019t go yet. And I said I\u2019m coming back<\/em>. (Laughs) And I did<\/em>. And I came back with a new look on life. I had been giving money, but I was spending it on myself. And I thought that God was blessing me to do<\/em> that. Ignorantly, I was going on dressing and buying fine cars and uh, I have a sixty-five thousand dollar home and all that kind of thing. And I thought I was doing<\/em> something. But when I came back<\/em> from the dead<\/em>, I saw a new look on life.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> I said to my wife, I got to give away these clothes, to people that is not able to get them.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got to give away these shoes. Alligator.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> I say I\u2019ve got to get down with the ghetto. Going to the hedges and highways.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> And compel people to come to Christ. I\u2019ve brought that program to our church. They said. you can go out there and get \u2018em. but don\u2019t bring \u2018em to our church. Stay out there with them.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> But I said I\u2019m going to do it.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> And under God, I\u2019m going to do it. And\u2013 And I believe in this man. Before I criticize any<\/em> kind of an organization, I\u2019ve got to see what\u2019s going on. And I\u2019ve been here, and I\u2019ve seen what\u2019s went (unintelligible word).
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> And I have decided, that live or die, sink or swim, I\u2019m gonna follow him. Wherever he leads, that\u2019s the way I\u2019m going.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nCrane:<\/strong> I love him. God bless him. And God is blessing me. And we decided to come here and be here today. There\u2019s 33 of us\u2013 (unintelligible) (tape edit) And we are here today. And I\u2019m satisfied.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (quiet clapping and cheering, talking)
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\nJessie Mae <\/strong>Long:<\/strong> Peace and love, everybody.
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> Peace, darlin\u2019.
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\nLong:<\/strong> This is Sister Jessie Mae Long, and I wanted to say to Paul in Los Angeles and Houston, Texas. I\u2019m one of them out of the hundreds that died. I feel good right there. And I don\u2019t know what you all think about\u2013 I wished I had time, but I don\u2019t have but a minute to\u2013 to tell ya, oh, what this man has done for me. But uh, when I died and got to that place, I saw a man standing. His hair was black as raven. And I looked up at him in this place. And his face outshined the sun. His face lit up that place. He looked like a city to me, I don\u2019t know what it was, a city, but that\u2019s the way it looked<\/em>. And I said to him, (unintelligible word)\u2013 Father, I don\u2019t want to stay here now, take me back with you. And he looked up and smilin\u2019 and (unintelligible word)his hands to me and told me, my child, stand on your feet. So I got to go out and tell (unintelligible word) about who he is, because I know<\/em> who he is.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Long:<\/strong> And uh, and I have been (unintelligible) never change. And I thank him this evening. And I just wanted to let y\u2019all know, I died, but I\u2019m alive.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)<\/p>\n

Woman 2:<\/strong> State your name.
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\nMarvin Wiseman:<\/strong> My name is Mar\u2013 Marvin Wiseman. I\u2019m from uh, Los Angeles, California.
\n(music, Wiseman sings)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nWoman 3:<\/strong> \u2013to the hospitals in Philadelphia, New Jersey, and in Anaheim and in Long Beach. I bought bricks in them, trying to get my healing. But thanks be to God, one day, I met a man. Hallelujah!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nWoman 3:<\/strong> Oh! Glory! Reaching through the stomach (unintelligible), hallelujah, honey! He (unintelligible word) the things that needed to be done.
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nWoman 3:<\/strong> He is the greatest physician that is on earth!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> That\u2019s right!
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\nWoman 3:<\/strong> Oh, glory! There is no more Jim Jones on this earth.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nWoman 3:<\/strong> Hallelujah! Glory<\/em> to God!
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\nArchie Ijames: <\/strong>Glory!
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\nWoman 3:<\/strong> I\u2019m so happy! Oh, today, it\u2019s all over me! Glory to God is all in my bones! Hallelujah! I can\u2019t say enough for him. I just want to say one thing. Thank God for Jim Jones!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nWoman 3:<\/strong> Thank God for Jim Jones!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nWoman 3:<\/strong> Oh! Oh, yes!
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\nMale 1:<\/strong> We don\u2019t want to forget her beautiful testimony, because that dear sister had been operated on five separate times.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nMale 1:<\/strong> And the last time\u2013 listen to this\u2013
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Quietens)
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\nMale 1:<\/strong> \u2013the last time the doctor sewed her up, he said, I\u2019m sending you home. He sent her home to die, he said, because there\u2019s nothing else I can do. There\u2019s nothing<\/em> else I can do. And at that moment, the last moment of desperation, when there was nothing else that man could do, then Father God stepped in, reached out, and spoke the word, and see it\u2013 you see how\u2013 Oh! It\u2019s just like a young<\/em> child! She can jump around now! And talk to you about how good God has been to her, because she knows, if it had not<\/em> been for our dear Father, Jim Jones, that she would be dead today. Mighty God! Mighty God! Hallelujah!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nMale 1:<\/strong> Praise his name! My God, hallelujah! Come on, brother.
\n(unintelligible voices in crowd)
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\nArchie Ijames: <\/strong>Yeah! Praise him, sister! That\u2019s all right!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> May I say peace to everybody in the house? I know quite a lot of you here. (Clears throat) I don\u2019t blame you for rejoicing and jumping and hollering and saying I just can\u2019t believe you. (tape edit) \u2013aches, and been down so<\/em> long. And every way we turned, somebody was against us.
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> Uh, huh!
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\nMinister:<\/strong> There was a bar against you. And you\u2019ve been framed\u2013 we\u2019ve been framed so<\/em> long!
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\nArchie Ijames:<\/strong> Yeah, uh-huh!
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\nMinister:<\/strong> And now, I don\u2019t blame you for long speeches, because you have something to talk about.
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\nArchie Ijames:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> That\u2019s wonderful when you know<\/em> and don\u2019t have to guess. It\u2019s wonderful when you go to the hospital and they turn you down, and you don\u2019t have money to pay and they just shut you out. Finally you have to give up and
\ndie. But we found a doctor\u2013
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nArchie Ijames:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nMinister: \u2013<\/strong>that\u2019s able to cure every pain.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nArchie Ijames: <\/strong>Yeah! Yeah!
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\nMinister:<\/strong> If he\u2019s a thousand miles from ya, he\u2019s able to cure ya. And not only that, but one that can feed everybody. One that can go to jail and get ya out when everybody says (unintelligible)\u2013 and hang ya.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> So I haven\u2019t\u2013 I\u2019m not gonna say much. I just wanna let ya know, I know him too<\/em>.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> The first time I ever saw him, he called me out (Pause) and healed<\/em> me. And I been following him ever since.
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\nArchie Ijames: <\/strong>Yeah!
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\nMinister:<\/strong> It was some time before I could just make up my mind that I could just give up all<\/em> that I\u2019d been\u2013 that I had and been doin\u2019 and follow this<\/em> family. But at last, thank God, I made up in my<\/em> mind, I would follow<\/em> him \u2018til the end.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nArchie Ijames: <\/strong>Praise the Lord!
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\nMinister:<\/strong> This, and we close. This, and we close. What made it so permanent, so profound with me, he didn\u2019t have to take me somewhere and examine me. He just walks up to me and put his hand on me. And I didn\u2019t know I had cancer. I was sittin\u2019\u2013 I don\u2019t know\u2013 I can\u2019t remember whether it was this church or the one in the\u2013 in uh, San Francisco, but I think it was right back there. And I had a pain, right here, nagging and aching me. Don\u2019t you know how that feels?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nMinister:<\/strong> Haven\u2019t you had it?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nMinister:<\/strong> God bless your soul if you haven\u2019t had it. Let me tell you, you were blessed all the way along. (clear throat) I don\u2019t know one and you don\u2019t know one in this whole, boys and girls, men and women that haven\u2019t had a pain.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> And when he came back and stood back there, he said, \u201cI just cured a minister of a beginning of a cancer.\u201d And it struck me so forcible, I couldn\u2019t stand up. I just had to set there and look. And just then if I knew you wanted, but I was sick. Went to hospital. And I went home. And the pain started again. And I never had a pain like that in my<\/em> life! Oh the man is iron. The pain was so, I called on everybody and nobody. I couldn\u2019t dial the phone, I was so nervous. I\u2019ve never been nervous like that. And I went in the bathroom. The blood was just dripping like that. Big streaks. And I called on Jim Jones.
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\nArchie Ijames: <\/strong>Uh-huh.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> And I said, in my way of beings, I said, if\u2013 Lord, if I die, let me die in peace. This pain is so severe, I just don\u2019t want pain<\/em> like this. But I saw Jim Jones. I mean I saw him with these<\/em> eyes.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> He just walked through the door. And I could see his hair as he has it (unintelligible word) and looked to see at me, and the pain\u2013 (tape fades)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> You\u2019ll have to excuse me, I\u2013 I\u2013 I\u2019m not used to this. The pain<\/em> began to disappear, and I began to feel better. And when the\u2013 when the cops come to carry me to the hospital, the pain was gone.
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\nArchie Ijames: <\/strong>(laughing) Ah, yeah\u2013
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nMinister:<\/strong> When they carried me up to the hospital and put me to bed, I had no pain. I\u2013 they were (unintelligible word) long sleep. God bless your soul, I\u2019ve been resting well ever since.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nRosie Ijames:<\/strong> Peace, everyone, and this great love that Father\u2019s teaching us about. My name is Rosie Ijames from Redwood Valley. And I came to testify to you, to witness<\/em> to you, to tell<\/em> you about this great love that Father is teaching us about, the greater love than no man than this<\/em> one we have with us, Father, who\u2019s concerned about all<\/em> of us.
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\nArchie Ijames:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nRosie Ijames:<\/strong> Concerned about our ills, our pains and our health. And as today, I feel like a picture<\/em> of health. People say you look like a young woman. Well, you know why? Because I found a fountain of youth! Father<\/em>, the Father of youth<\/em>!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nRosie Ijames:<\/strong> I can look<\/em> like a young woman and feel<\/em> like a young woman! But I want to tell everyone there was a day when my strength was (stumbles over words) ebbing away. I was getting weaker and weaker, and I didn\u2019t know, \u2018cause I didn\u2019t realize why, but cancer was throughout my body. My lymph glands was all swollen. There was knots on my neck and I didn\u2019t know who. I didn\u2019t even realize<\/em> what\u2013 when I went to this doctor, he shook his head. He said, and he was making his notes, there\u2019s cancer throughout my body, was nothing he could do. And he called in there, making reservations for me in the hospital. And I thought, surely he wasn\u2019t saying cancer. You know what they\u2013 the use medical terms, you call them out. And uh, while he wasn\u2019t even in Redwood Valley, he was down here with you people, and he knew what was wrong with me. And uh, this doctor didn\u2019t. I went into the hospital. He told me\u2013 looked at me and says\u2013 I\u2013 I\u2013 I\u2013 there\u2019s nothing\u2013 you know\u2013 he knew I was afraid. (chuckle) And he said, when things are like they look, you may not have to do anything but just go back home in the morning. And what he was saying to me was, dear hearts, that your cancer is throughout your body, and not a thing I can do. I\u2019ll just send you back home to die. He said, but we\u2019re going to take this biopsy here, and we gonna send it in and check it out. So the next\u2013 when he came back to my\u2013 my bed, he said, you know, this is a strange<\/em> thing. I don\u2019t understand it. He said, but there was no cancer! He says there\u2019s nothing wrong<\/em> with ya!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nRosie Ijames:<\/strong> Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Oh! Hallelujah! Oh! (unintelligible word)! Oh! Hallelujah!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nRosie Ijames:<\/strong> But I said (laughs)\u2013 let me tell ya, dear heart. What do you think you all came here for? All these\u2013 the hundreds of people know\u2013 thousands of people sitting here. What did you come<\/em> here for? Did you come here to see a reed shaking in the wind?
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> No!
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\nRosie Ijames:<\/strong> No! I tell you came to see greater than that. You see\u2013 you came to see a great<\/em> man! A\u2013 a prophet? No! One greater than he. The Christ is with us today, and he has delivered us. I\u2019m telling you. I said they wanted me to stay home, but I said, I couldn\u2019t<\/em> stay home! I just wanted to be under the shadow of the Almighty!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nRosie Ijames:<\/strong> They said the righteous\u2013 (laughs) it\u2019s just gold\u2013 the\u2013 the\u2013 the righteous, it is a stone tower. And the righteous will run into it and be saved. Or follow (unintelligible word) stone tower, and I could just run up to the shadow of the stone tower and hi\u2013 his passing shadow pass over me, I know I would be delivered. And I was delivered<\/em>, dear hearts, and I\u2019m a strong sound body today. Happier than ever before, and I want to give out this<\/em> love that Father is giving out to us. Bless everyone.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
\n(music starts, crowd clapping to beat of music) (tape edit)
\n(silence for several minutes)
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013where the cancer disappeared also.
\n(organ music)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Bless him. It healed the eye<\/em>\u2013 it healed the eye that had lost his sight. And it healed the tumor. Does she have\u2013 (microphone moves away)\u2013 the day. Is she here? Right here. There she is. Bless her, bless her, bless her.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> So sweet. I presumed<\/em> that was she, but I wanted to be sure. It\u2019s just wonderful. These are the kinds of testimonies that are coming in by the hundreds. Where the picture becomes a contact. There\u2019s something certainly much easier if you visualize<\/em> God working through someone. I would love\u2013 I was so thrilled<\/em> that they took the picture of Bishop Crane. Because I want to look<\/em> at that picture as I saw the emanation of truth working through him. People say, why do you use pictures? Well, you can see<\/em> what God\u2019s using when you\u2019re using a picture.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> You can visualize<\/em> the thing that has brought life to you. And I looked upon Bishop Crane\u2019s face, and down<\/em> through the years, we\u2019re going to be able to enjoy the emanation of principle that worked through that man. It thrilled my soul and stirred my spirit when I heard him proclaim how he had a sixty-five thousand dollar home and had all these clues\u2013 these clothes, alligator shoes, but then, when he came back from the dead, when the spirit brought him back from the dead and he was beckoned back, he gave it\u2013 his clothes<\/em> away, he gave his shoes<\/em> away, and he went down in the ghettos. And his church said, we don\u2019t want you anymore. You can go in the ghettos, but we don\u2019t want you or the people, and he walked away from a fifteen hundred dollar salary. He would not compromise. He walked away from the biggest church, a presidency or treasureship of the whole state of Texas. He walked away from it all, and said, I want to see Jesus!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I want a picture of somebody that is an instrument of God like that. And that\u2019s why people find healing through these pictures by the un\u2013 untold tens of thousands, because they have seen<\/em>. Their eye hath seen, their ear<\/em> hath heard, their heart has been stirred\u2013
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013they have seen<\/em> the emanation of the hundredfold God, manifesting through this Temple. And it triggers a faith in them, and it quickens<\/em> their spirit and it causes their mortal bodies to put on immortality, it causes\u2013
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\n(End of Side A)<\/strong>
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\n(side B)<\/strong>
\n(tape takes a few minutes to begin)
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\nJones: \u2013<\/strong>because of people like our Sister Evans, who would have died of this tumor and gone blind but now is healed<\/em>. Healed<\/em>, just because she had faith in the God that was working in this picture. Spirit, that\u2019s it.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
\n
\nJones:<\/strong> Last night we were all night in counsel, and it was a beautiful<\/em> time. My heart was aching for a young woman that had come into the church. I didn\u2019t know what to do, except mind the inner voice, but in the inside, my natural<\/em> mind said, \u201cOh, dear! Fight<\/em> the system, fight<\/em> the system.\u201d But I didn\u2019t. I listened to the spiritual voice as I always do. She was guilty of crimes, not being in the fellowship, not under the umbrella of this holy teaching, she\u2019d been guilty of all kinds of crimes. And it was either flee because they were after her. Flee, or to turn herself in. So we debated \u2018til the wee hours of morning. And she came to [the] conclusion she would turn herself in. We took her babies, promised to rear them, promised, of course, to be in the court, promised to get her out. Said, I don\u2019t want any bail. Said, \u201cYou didn\u2019t take bail when they oppressed your black brothers, you didn\u2019t take bail. You said you wouldn\u2019t take it. And you stood up for them and demanded their liberty and got it.\u201d She said, \u201cI\u2019m going to go in and face whatever it is,\u201d and as they came and handcuffed her, she said\u2013 said, \u201cThis is unusual.\u201d We said, these officers, where they were touched, they were white, they didn\u2019t know what to do with this, said we\u2013 we\u2013 this is unusual. We\u2019ve never had anybody turn themselves in. We uh\u2013 we want to arrest [apprise] you of your rights. Said no need to do this. Said you have a right to an attorney. Said there\u2019s one setting by me. The officer said, do you know what you say to an attorney and what you say to a preacher is uh, privileged. You don\u2019t have to give testimony. Said I know that. Said but they\u2019ve taught me\u2013 I\u2019m just using\u2013 paraphrasing, but she said, they\u2019ve taught me what\u2019s right. And I\u2019m going. Said well, it\u2019s unusual. Said, I wouldn\u2019t go if it hadn\u2019t been for them. I want you to know, they took her down and they booked her and, because of this kind of life, they turned her loose. Where is she? Where is she?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Where is she? Come! She\u2019s back with her babies! (cries out) God Almighty<\/em>! God! Come down! Back with her babies today!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
\n(organ music playing)
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\nJones:<\/strong> They arrested her at three o\u2019clock this morning, and they turned her loose and said go back to the church at four<\/em>. (Calls out) Hey, God!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Right here she is, up on the front. She said that\u2013 (stumbles over words) the\u2013 the report I understand was they praised the church and praised this action and let her go. And she had\u2013 well, she had enough crimes to put her away for years, but (Calls out) my God Almighty! Spirit!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> There she is. There she is. Just take a look at her, waving her hand at you now. Good God! Good God! Right here, right there. Good God! It\u2019s a good day! It\u2019s a good day!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I said\u2013 Yes, you heard me right\u2013
\n(tape fades out briefly)
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013refused to book her. They (stumbles over words) they booked her, they went through the process and all that, but they released<\/em> her after they\u2019d done that.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> You never heard tell of it in all your life. (tape edit) \u2013never heard tell of it in all your life. No, you never did. She\u2019d forged hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars of checks. But they let her (stretches out word) go!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers) (organ music)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Some man had used her. Got her intoxicated and used her. Had her mind completely<\/em> gone, \u2018cause she was taking the money. But she didn\u2019t even give that side of the story. She just opened up her heart and give what the spirit said for me. Said to me inside to do. And I said you won\u2019t suffer loss. And I said you\u2019ll influence officers. You\u2019ll influence people. And before an hour was gone, they were praising<\/em> the church down in the main jail!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> God almighty! (Calls out) Spirit of God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Sings hymn, Jones joins in.
\n(tape edit)
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\nJones: <\/strong>\u2013cause everything is dead in this PA system, or that it was dead, until I grasped forth in a desperate act of faith here. My natural mind doesn\u2019t tell me to do this, but my spiritual<\/em> mind tells me to grab a microphone, and I do<\/em> what I\u2019m told.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> And I also hear something else. Because we\u2019re not going to let<\/em> this happen. We\u2019re not going to let<\/em> this happen. If you just stand where you are, Spirit, mind of God, truth<\/em>.
\n(tape silent for several seconds)
\n
\nJones:<\/strong> Wilson\u2013 Ste\u2013 Stella\u2013 Estella Wilson. Estella Wilson. Who<\/em> is that? All right, all right. Hands clasped. Hands clasped. Faith<\/em> without works is dead. Keep your hands clasped. You were born on the nineteenth day of January.
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\nEstella Wilson:<\/strong> Um-hmm, yes, I was\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> All right. Hands clasped. You believe\u2013 All of you now, we\u2019ve got to do\u2013 uh, we\u2019re in uh, troubled waters to begin with, with someone that is crippled. In a wheelchair? Hands clasped. It\u2019s not where my natural<\/em> mind would go to start<\/em>, but we\u2019ve had the natural mind isn\u2019t the thing that leads us. Hands clasped again, \u2018til you feel love, like your own mother, your own father, or your own sister, or if it was an auntie or if it was a next door neighbor. If you didn\u2019t like your father, your mother, get<\/em> somebody in your visualization that you like. You\u2019ve had two<\/em> children, uh, two daughters?
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\nWilson:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> One of them suffocated as an infinite\u2013 as an infant after having a bad<\/em> seizure.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes, she did.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You felt so bad because\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones: <\/strong>\u2013you couldn\u2019t get anyone to come to you, your church, no one assisted you.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> You\u2019re all alone.
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\nJones:<\/strong> A child, you felt that you<\/em> had been responsible for the child\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> (crying) That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013losing its life. The other daughter, Viola\u2013 Palmer?
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Viola, yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013lives in this area, Venice, Calif\u2013 in Los Angeles? With\u2013 she has six <\/em>children.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I\u2019m gonna send a cloth with you which will take care of little Lina<\/em>. This will heal her of that dreaded, dreaded disease that we know as sickle cell anemia.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank<\/em> you, Jesus. Thank<\/em> you, Jesus.
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013hands clasped, to build your faith. Thank whoever you wish. If you wish to thank Jesus, as long as you don\u2019t have a segregationist<\/em> Jesus. I thought when some were praising Jesus\u2013 It\u2019s terrible to know that you have to know what kind of Jesus<\/em> you\u2019re following. Because there\u2019re many Jesuses.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (some murmurs in agreement)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I looked at this television today, and all white audiences teaching people to hate black \u2013 right on this television \u2013 and they were doing it in the name of Jesus. That\u2019s<\/em> why you better have a living<\/em>, real righteous and holy<\/em> Jesus that teaches equality\u2013 that will cause you, like Brother Crane says, to go down into the ghettos\u2013 down where they\u2019re in the gap, in the hedge, in the highways, in the hedges where there\u2019s no one to help them but will take in all colors of the rainbow, and serve all people. (voice drops, then rises throughout) There are many Jesuses. I<\/em> don\u2019t require that you see Jesus in me, as long as you see the right kind of a Jesus. A Jesus that loved the whole world. A Jesus that fought against the establishment. A Jesus that took on the system and refused to be involved in war or capitalism. That said the people must be free! He said they\u2019re going in the prisons, into the highways, and going to the stranger in the season. Clothe the naked. That was the law of the prophets through Jesus. That was a demarcation line that he set. In the day of judgment, he said \u201cI was hungry\u201d \u2013 and he wasn\u2019t personally hungry \u2013 but he said in the\u2013 any black or Indian, or poor white was hungry, he said \u201cI<\/em> there go\u2013 there go I<\/em> hungry.\u201d (voice calms, then rises) He said in that one is naked, then you must clothe them. In that one is hungry, you must feed them. In that one is in prison, you must go to them. (Voice moderates) Like last night before this sister left, I had my brigade ready to go to prison. And I said, \u201cI don\u2019t seem to feel<\/em> that we\u2019re going to need them\u201d. And they sent her back in one hour.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Murmurs, light applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Miracle!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> You have four sisters. Sister Wilson, is it? Wilson? Wilson?
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Wilson.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Four sisters.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Two brothers.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> All of them are gone.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Your sisters are Bessie\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Bessie\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> Ruth\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Ruth.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Carrie\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Carrie.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Elizabeth\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Elizabeth.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Carrie, your favorite sister was born on August\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes, she is\u2013 yes!
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\nJones:<\/strong> Listen to me now. You\u2019re all carried away. Born on August nine.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes. August ninth. That\u2019s right, that\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Your brothers were George\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And I don\u2019t seem to hear the other ones, but it isn\u2019t important. It\u2019s not
\nimportant. Moose? Moos.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Moos. Yes, my God, Moos.
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\nJones:<\/strong> All right. Hands clasped. Your husband worked for the railroad company for many years\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Whoo\u2013 whoo\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> He was a porter, and he was injured, unloading heavy trunk\u2013 big heavy trunks.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes. Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Big black, heavy trunk I see in my mind.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes. Yes. Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And after all that, they fired him just before he was due to get his pension because he was black<\/em>.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> (unintelligible)\u2013 he was black and he was so (unintelligible under Jones)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nJones:<\/strong> And you just lost him. You just lost him back there in Louisiana last year.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes. Yes, yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s good when Sister Bennett said to come<\/em>. She said to come to my house.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Because I\u2019m going to give<\/em> you\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Thank God.
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\nJones: \u2013<\/strong>a double portion\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Thank God.
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\nJones: \u2013<\/strong>of the spirit<\/em> today.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Thank God. Whoa! Thank God!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Hands clasped. For eight long years, you\u2019ve suffered with this condition\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Paralyzed with a stroke that affected your limbs.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Can\u2019t walk.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And arthritis of the spine?
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Can\u2019t walk.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And your limbs have withered your knees<\/em>. Won\u2019t bend<\/em> properly.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And you can\u2019t stand. (Pause) Now come on, folk\u2013 don\u2019t let your faith
\ndown\u2013 now don\u2019t let your faith down now.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Murmurs)
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Help me, Jesus!
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\nJones:<\/strong> You saw the woman, Sister Cunningham. You walk around now, Sister Cunningham\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Help me, Jesus.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Don\u2019t crowd\u2013 People, don\u2019t crowd her. Just let Sister Cunningham walk out of here that was paralyzed that came all the way from Texas. You saw her dancing like a little child. I healed her, and I want you to take a look at her. I want you to take a look<\/em> at her, as she walks. You saw her dance like a child, moving her arms. Now, child\u2013
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes! Whoa! Thank you, Jesus!
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\nJones:<\/strong> (glossolalia)
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Whoa! Thank you, Jesus.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You got a little dog? You got a little dog. He\u2019s nearly 2000 miles<\/em> away from here\u2013 over 2000 miles, I see. Casey<\/em>.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes\u2013
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\nJones:<\/strong> Now. Now on that. You know you\u2019ve not told anyone anything about your life here.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> No. No.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You\u2019ve not told a soul.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> No. No.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know you. Now, in the name of God, socialism, stand up! Stand up! Stand up! Stand up!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers) (organ plays)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Sh-h. Take your time, sister. (Pause) Take your time. Don\u2019t\u2013 don\u2019t\u2013 don\u2019t\u2013 don\u2019t, please, don\u2019t\u2013 don\u2019t push. Don\u2019t help. I mean, brother, don\u2019t\u2013 just\u2013 just\u2013 It\u2019s all right if you fall. Try again. Up<\/em>! I said in the name of the greatest name on earth\u2013 socialism<\/em>! God is love. Love is socialism. In the name<\/em> of that which I am. In my<\/em> name, God<\/em>, socialism, on<\/em> your feet! On your feet! On your feet! On your feet! On your feet!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> On your feet! (quietly) It\u2019s all right. (louder) On your feet! On your feet! Nurse! Nurse! Nurse. Jack. Jack. Jack. Now, now, now, now, hit it! Hit it! Hit it!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers, celebrates)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Clear the line, clear the line. Sister, sister, sister, has it been eight\u2013 eight years?
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Eight years.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Eight years.
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\nWilson:<\/strong> Eight years.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Now go<\/em>! Now, I want you to move faster. I want you to move faster. Move! Move! In the name! In the name! In the name! Jesus!
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> Hey!
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\nJones:<\/strong> Jesus! Jesus! Sister, sister, I want you to move back here faster. I know you\u2019re having trouble with your bladder. She\u2019s also got a growth on her bladder that\u2019s causing that pressure. You want to urinate. Don\u2019t worry about it. Just move<\/em> past now. Just move! You\u2019re not used<\/em> to being on your feet. Now move<\/em> them! Move them! Lift \u2018em up. Lift \u2018em up. Lift \u2018em up. Where are your faith? Why don\u2019t you try it?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Lift \u2018em up! Spirit! Spirit! Lift \u2018em up! Lift \u2018em up! Lift \u2018em up! God! Lift \u2018em up! Now co\u2013
\n(tape edit)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers, celebrates)
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\nJones: <\/strong>\u2018Cause don\u2019t let her\u2013 don\u2019t let her go to the cancer until she gets better walking than that. She\u2019s got to get better walk than that. Again, we\u2019re back. Move<\/em>, sister. I command you, in my<\/em> name. The name of God. (tape edit) (unintelligible word) Now just lift your leg. Lift it! Lift it! Li\u2013 Lively, lively, sister. Just co\u2013 go on, go on, go on, go on, now\u2013 on, on, on, on, on. (Pause) Now, shh. Run, run, run, run, run, go, gone, it\u2019s gone, it\u2019s gone, all right. All right. (unintelligible as recorder is overwhelmed) All that gone! All that gone! All that gone! All right! All right! Gone! Gone!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers, sings)
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\nJones: <\/strong>It\u2019s all right now. Got to get that cancer healed, get that cancer healed. Take it away, get<\/em> it healed, get<\/em> it healed. Blessed be the name of God. It\u2019s all gone now, child. It\u2019s all right. Take her and get that cancer. Take it. It\u2019s all right now, child. Blessed, blessed. Praise his name.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Praise<\/em> his name.
\n(tape edit)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers, celebrates)
\n(tape edit)
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\nJones: <\/strong>(voice calms) \u2013is operative. There\u2019s a sister here that\u2019s discouraged<\/em> about the broken bones that you have. Three<\/em> of them. Now, you keep your faith. You keep your faith because the stream<\/em> is moving. If we\u2019ll be honorable in faith, and you\u2019ll do your part, in your offering today, sister, if you make your commitment\u2013 and by the way, everyone should make it now, as humbly as we can, because it\u2019s a day of opportunity. This is a day<\/em> of opportunity. Each of you get your envelopes and make a just<\/em> contribution to this holy cause. There\u2019s no other cause that can cause cripples to walk. There\u2019s no other cause that can cause people to have cancers dropped. That\u2019s for the\u2013 the\u2013 meaning. There\u2019s no other cause that can cause cancer to fall off the face. From pictures and open blinded eyes, there\u2019s no other cause. Good God.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (murmurs)
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\nJones:<\/strong> This woman\u2019s a stranger to me<\/em>, I have never met her in my life, but the spirit<\/em> of God has met her. And made her ever (unintelligible word).
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
\n
\nJones:<\/strong> And I suppose none but Sister Bennett has<\/em> met her. I<\/em> do not know her, but I shall say this: the same spirit can raise you and will<\/em> raise the one I just promised. It will raise<\/em> you. Did you hear what I said?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Keep your faith. And let that faith be you. I don\u2019t care how infirmed you are, but right now, I believe that it is most in order that everyone take an envelope and give as generously, because yesterday, we had three<\/em> people leave this building. Just as I warned you. One was shot. Called back in. Left this building. Another loved one, his son, was shot.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Another one was stabbed<\/em>. And the only one that was able to keep<\/em> their protection called on me last night. Someone was about to be stabbed and you called Jim, Jim, Jim.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Yes, yes. And it saved<\/em> you. But what time was it? After twelve o\u2019clock. All right. Now please, each of you take your envelope and be as generous as you can. Because if we have to appeal, you\u2019ll lose your protection. To whom much is given, much<\/em> is required. No Cadillacs here, no Lincolns here and no alligator shoes here, there\u2019s no wristwatch even on this wrist. There\u2019s no rings, it\u2019s all been turned in for the people\u2019s ministry. And we have the senior citizen homes, the convalescent centers, the orphan\u2019s home, the children\u2019s home rather, and the glorious dormitories with 109 students. Two<\/em> of our minority students now studying medicine that would not\u2019ve had it, if it had not been for this church. We\u2019ve got the proof<\/em> of our work. You can just look around at the facilities here and in Redwood Valley, and see<\/em> that salvation has come to this house.
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\nWoman in crowd:<\/strong> Yeah. Thank you, Father.
\n(tape edit)
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\nJones: \u2013<\/strong>and anything you wish to pledge, put it down. (tape edit) \u2013kind of encouragement to someone that thinks that they\u2019re in trouble over the telephone, and we\u2019ll take care of that. They think<\/em> they\u2019re in trouble. They\u2019ve been stopped in the city outlying, and they think<\/em> they\u2019re in trouble, but I just told him that if they would follow two<\/em> simple instructions, they would be free. And this spirit is not confined to this room. If we\u2019ll have faith, you can project it, and you\u2019ll find people healed that you love everywhere. If you will not encompass me, or try to restrict<\/em> me to this particular zone. Now before you give, look in your heart. Sister on the front row, stand, that was dead for two hours. Show them. Two hours. And when I told you she would come back, she was free of arthritis.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Yes, my God. And look at the sister there, 97 years of age.
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> Hallelujah!
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\nJones:<\/strong> Sister Ever [Rejoicing] that was dying with a respiratory condition, and I looked at her, till now she cooks<\/em> in the\u2013 one of those beautiful self-managing senior citizen homes. Look at the sister in the second<\/em> row there, operated five times for cancer. Next, the sister that was five years in a wheelchair, just like this woman, eight<\/em> years, now she\u2019s out. It was five years, wasn\u2019t it five years, dear? Five years. Now walking. Five long years. Now you\u2019ve seen<\/em> the salvation of God. There they are, and I could go on down the list. There\u2019s a woman, given up with cancer, spread all over her body, the reverend\u2019s wife, Church of God pastor\u2019s wife. Healed<\/em>. Cancer all over her body, and it went away. When they went to the doctor, he was amazed. It was all gone. You have a responsibility to this. Now if we were buying Cadillacs, it\u2019d be different. But we\u2019ve got people\u2019s busses out there. We\u2019ve got a lake, a pond up there with catfish that\u2019d feed everybody in this house, and all your grandbabies. And all your in-laws and out-laws\u2013
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Laughs)
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\nJones:<\/strong> We\u2019d have so many catfish that we\u2019ve got to transport them to other ponds. You say, what are you getting all those catfish for? You better stick close, \u2018cause I know something you don\u2019t.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Say, I\u2019m in Houston. Well, you\u2019re now a part of us. Brother and Sister Crane, you ought to all follow Brother and Sister Crane. There ought to be that people\u2019s mission right down there, and you ought to all follow them, as they\u2019re following the Christ that\u2019s in this work. And when the time comes, we\u2019ll bring you up there for those catfish ponds, and if you don\u2019t come<\/em>, if you don\u2019t come, you\u2019ll perish. You\u2019ll be notified two weeks before the time, but when we say come, you drop whatever you\u2019re doing. Don\u2019t you look back in the house. Don\u2019t you go back and look on the roof. Don\u2019t you go back and give suck<\/em>.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Did you hear what I said? Don\u2019t you even go back to give suck<\/em> to any ol\u2019 idea or opinion. Any old infant that you\u2019ve been trying to cradle<\/em> along. Don\u2019t you give suck<\/em> to any old child. Now\u2013 Now, I\u2019m not talking about natural because it\u2019s a parable. Don\u2019t you be sucking anything then. You just leave<\/em> all that old system. Sister (unintelligible word) said the day that was prevented her life was saved here, she said, \u201cCan I be in a certain church back there and serve you?\u201d I said no. Follow Sister Crane and Brother Crane. That\u2019s the only one. I said you cannot, and there\u2019s no way. You\u2019re gonna have to come out. Or a sister like this, that sings, you going to have to come out from amongst those unclean vessels back there. You\u201911 never going to be able to set back under pastor\u2019s anniversaries any more. You\u2019ll be unclean<\/em>.
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\nArchie Ijames:<\/strong> Yeah, brother. Hallelujah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You\u2019ll be unclean. You set back under pastors\u2019 wives\u2019 tea, and pastors\u2019 anniversaries, and pastors\u2019 birthday and pastors\u2019 appreciation day, (calls out) you\u2019ll be unclean!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nVoices in Congregation:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nJones:<\/strong> I said come out<\/em>! I said come out and be separate!
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\nVoices in Congregation:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nJones:<\/strong> You hold\u2013 you heard Reverend Hill, this precious minister who stood up here and told you about the cancer that he was healed of, and his wife, they\u2019re in their 80\u2019s. And his sister, the back brace that she\u2019d worn all those years. He didn\u2019t get it by staying in an institution. He came out<\/em>!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nArchie Ijames:<\/strong> Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I say, you can\u2019t stay in. If you want to come out of your wheelchair, don\u2019t (unintelligible word) visiting those old soft churches, those jackleg preachers next Sunday, \u2018cause you\u2019ll never get healed!
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\nArchie Ijames:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I said it, and I\u2019ll say it again \u2013 with or without this microphone working right \u2013 be ye separate<\/em>. Be ye separate<\/em>. Be ye not again entangled with the yoke of bondage. Stand fast in the liberty where with this Christ has made you free and be not a slave again!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
\n(organ begins playing)
\n
\nJones:<\/strong> We need to get rid of all of our slave names and all of our slave church names and separate ourselves. Come out. \u2018Cause you\u2019ll find no place that can heal people and bring them back. Two hundred and nine people in this<\/em> ministry in Los Angeles raised from the dead in public<\/em> auditoriums. Two hundred and nine. Across this nation, it has been reportedly 1673 that were dead, like brother here that was in the morgue and they were going to do an autopsy. We\u2019ve had witnesses just like that here in Los Angeles, where they were in the morgue<\/em>! And we had one in Dallas, Texas where they were in the morgue<\/em>! And she would not be denied! And she ran through the morgue and put the picture on her child (Calls out) and up from the grave he arose!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
\n(organ music)
\n
\nJones:<\/strong> But I\u2019ll tell you this. The race goes to the swift<\/em>. The price is high. You cannot carry along that carcass of the old church system. Because it\u2019ll kill<\/em> you. You know what dead bodies do if they\u2019re wrapped around you, they\u2019ll destroy you. And the old church system, the institutions of man, made by the honky slave system, they will kill<\/em> you, they will destroy<\/em> you, they will rob<\/em> you of your first love. You\u2019ve got to separate<\/em> yourself and come out<\/em>! I hope you heard me well. I don\u2019t get many \u201camens\u201d when we talk about this, but I said, you have to come out!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Cheers)
\n
\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
\n
\nJones:<\/strong> But be you holy, even as I\u2019m holy, be you separate, even as I am separate, be ye clean, even as I am clean.
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> Hallelujah!
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\nJones:<\/strong> Blessed. Now I was taking an offering, not for a man, but the cause of God. I won\u2019t handle a penny of it. But would you get your offerings in quickly? Everyone should have an envelope today. You wish to remain in the lamb\u2019s book, you better respond to what you\u2019ve seen today. Peace.
\n(Pause) (tape edit)
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\nJones: \u2013<\/strong>been raised from the dead, going there down the aisle. See her? She doesn\u2019t look like she\u2019s dead now.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Light applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Front row. Front\u2013 uh, the fr\u2013 front of the left row. Well, it\u2019s warm in the house but I\u2019m glad for one thing, it\u2019s warm in the heart here today.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Light applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> God is real.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nJones:<\/strong> If now, our sister\u2013 though I hear, I hear her word. I hear her word. I\u2019m going to ask our sister to sing, but we\u2013 we must uh, proceed. (Pause) (tape edit) (unintelligible word)
\n(organ music)
\n
\nJones:<\/strong> (clears throat) Blessed, blessed, blessed. Blessed. Blessed, blessed, blessed, blessed. Hands clasped. Hands clasped.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Responds)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Hands clasped. Blessed, blessed. Now give her the instruction I told you, now. Give her the instruction. The nurse, Jackie, over there, the nurse, gotta give her instruction, she gotta follow it. (Pause) Hands clasped, please. (Pause) (off mike) Come here, come here. (unintelligible) (back to mike) Follow through. Blessed. The warmest day I\u2019ve ever had in Los Angeles, but it\u2019s the effective<\/em> day. It\u2019s a day when we\u2019re gonna get some things done.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Murmurs)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I like the challenge of heat<\/em>. A lot of these preachers uh, even mentioned me on the radio today, and so we got people come in here to see. So I let them see, and I\u2019m not finished yet.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
\n
\nJones:<\/strong> Uh, stand up and sit down just once.
\n(Pause) (organ playing in background)
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> Yes\u2013 (unintelligible)
\n(tape edit)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Pass in front of everyone.
\n(tape edit)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Wish there will be one day when everybody\u2019ll have to follow and get out of here. You won\u2019t be following a pied piper, you\u2019ll be following the voice of one crying in the wilderness.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Applause and cheers)
\n(tape edit)
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\nJones: \u2013<\/strong>Clasp\u2013 (tape edit) one woman here that spit up the cancer. And before we had through her, we had to get it out of two<\/em> more people. Don\u2019t let that happen because of lack of sympathy. You\u2019ve got to have feeling. The other night, a woman \u2013 it was a Thursday, wasn\u2019t it? \u2013 fell dead back here, with a stroke. Paralyzed<\/em> in\u2013 on her entire side. And then her lifeless condition, heart stopped. Unloving attitudes caused it. Ungenerous, uncharitable attitudes caused it. I went back and worked over her with feverish<\/em> love and compassion and restored her, brought her back. But I want to tell you \u2013 there, yes, my precious, yes \u2013 but I want to tell you, the ones that caused<\/em> it \u2013 she looks good and lively now \u2013 but the ones that caused<\/em> it were in some serious trouble. Later that morning following, we got a message from one, Carol Timmins, said she didn\u2019t like who she was sitting by.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (Murmurs)
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013 and she\u2013
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\nEnd of tape<\/strong><\/p>\n

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