{"id":27480,"date":"2013-06-16T00:20:27","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:20:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27480"},"modified":"2023-06-18T16:56:43","modified_gmt":"2023-06-18T23:56:43","slug":"q596","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27480","title":{"rendered":"Q596 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.
\nTo read the Tape Summary, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Side 1<\/a>, Side 2<\/a>).<\/p>\n

Elderly black woman:<\/b> Daddy have brought us a long<\/i> ways, and he done brought us all here and spent all this money, (incredulous) and then some gone go one way and some another? We done forgot who our leader was. We don\u2019t need<\/i> nobody else. (supplicating to crowd) We got<\/i> all we need. So we got (unintelligible \u2014 sounds like “to work and away the whole world we got”) and we going to follow what we got. And so, I thank Dad, myself. I just want to go back yonder and get a hold of Tim Stoen and \u2014 and that woman, whatever her name is. (Laughs.) Yeah, and so. I\u2019m ready to do anything, destroy the peoples out there in the world that\u2019s going against us, as hard as we worked. And another thing\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (interrupting, somber voice) You know, that\u2019s true, she works too in the garden.<\/p>\n

Elderly black<\/b> woman:<\/b> \u2014 another thing, that uh, we should pull more together<\/i>. We\u2019re not together<\/i> like we should be \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones<\/b> (low voice): True.<\/p>\n

Elderly black<\/b> woman:<\/b> \u2014 when some try to pull one way, some pulling another. We done forgot who we got<\/i>. We got to hold<\/i> to what we got. He done brought us this far, he done saved our lives, well, why we \u2014 some folks drift one way, some another, I going follow my Daddy. I ain\u2019t got no other one to follow to help me. My sister told me, Jim Jones just down there, making a fool out of you seniors. I said, well, I\u2019m glad to be his fool. And so I don\u2019t have no other one but Daddy, he save my life and I want to thank him for it.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Thank you, if you would now \u2014 she should be (unintelligible word). Don\u2019t refer to what (unintelligible word) others, uh, people are saying about the negative, because it only makes, it, it only m\u2014 it only means, it only re\u2014 reminds us of how mean and wicked and cruel people are. Just tell what you\u2019re going to do, but don\u2019t remind us what \u2014 how evil it is because it makes your father\u2019s heart very heavy that, as good as he is, he has not been able to communicate to people that anybody can accuse him of making fools out of seniors has to be a barbarian. They have to be s\u2014 something without soul or heart, because there ain\u2019t nobody ever looked after seniors better than Father has.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs approval.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> From the time I was a child, had the best nursing home, made a million dollars and turned it over to the people, took care of the people, drug them out of old ratholes, give them nice homes, turn my own home into \u2014\u00a0only\u2014 and I\u2014 only home I ever had worth a damn, built onto it, and turned it in \u2014 made it into the best \u2014 the health board called it the best in the state of Indiana, the department of health.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Go ahead.<\/p>\n

Another elderly<\/b> woman:<\/b> Well, I can say, Father, that you\u2019re the greatest and the most wonderful \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Just make me a quick vote, honey, I \u2014<\/p>\n

Elderly<\/b> woman:<\/b> \u2014 person in the world that I\u2019ve ever met.<\/p>\n

Younger black male<\/b>, off mike: You gotta listen, you\u2019re not listening to him.<\/p>\n

Voice off mike unintelligible.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Just a quick vote, sweetie, if I can, \u2018cause we\u2019re going to get so late, that people won\u2019t think.<\/p>\n

Younger black male<\/b>, off mike: Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, what do you wanna do, what do you wanna do?<\/p>\n

Elderly<\/b> woman:<\/b> I want to go back to, uh, San Francisco or wherever these devils live that keeping up so much confusion and keeping you worried all the time and kill the hell out of all of them. That\u2019s what I would really<\/i> like to do.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Thank you. Put it down.<\/p>\n

Another<\/b> woman:<\/b> Ah, Dad, when I first met you and I came to this cause, I came because \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Put the names down, boy.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> I came because of the principles of what you stood for. And that\u2019s what kept me here and that\u2019s what kept me with you these years. So (unintelligible word), when I voted about Cuba, I voted for it on account of the benefit for those children. But for myself, I don\u2019t think about myself, because I\u2019ve already lived my life. I\u2019ve already lived my life \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You don\u2019t need to explain your vote, honey.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> \u2014 and I, uh \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You don\u2019t need to explain your vote. I been with you a long number of years, honey. (Pause) Anything else? What do \u2014 what do you want to do with your life?<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> I want to, uh \u2014 I would like<\/i> to go back and take care of all those that caused so much trouble. I don\u2019t mind dying.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I don\u2019t think you do.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> I don\u2019t mind dying. I\u2019d like to go back.<\/p>\n

(Pause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Got some beautiful people here. You think about it, you wanna leave them?<\/p>\n

Crowd<\/b> in disjointed voices: No.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> She\u2019s been with me \u2018bout twenty-some years, Eve over there twenty, going on thirty. I ain\u2019t leaving these people. I don\u2019t give a shit they\u2019re blind, maimed, halt, paralyzed or crazy (unintelligible \u2014 sounds like “after a long ocean vessel”), \u2018cause most people won\u2019t take in those they consider mentally ill. My s\u2014 my best workers are mentally ill. I\u2019m not so sure you don\u2019t have to be mentally ill before you can become a communist. You have to get sick mentally about what\u2019s going on around you. Umm-hmm \u2014 and have a healthy degree of paranoia. Yeah. (Ed. note: The FBI summary of this tape states that: “JONES \u2026 makes a comment about need to be mentally ill in order to be a communist.” The summary does not include the balance of Jones\u2019 comment on the subject.)<\/i><\/p>\n

Another elderly black<\/b> woman:<\/b> Daddy, this is the onliest freedom that I ever had in my life. And when I went to your church, two<\/i> days, I made my mind up, to follow you \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You sure did.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> \u2014 wherever you go, and \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You sure did.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> \u2014 I be with you until the end. If I can\u2019t go<\/i> with you<\/i>, Daddy, I lay my life down to die.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Umm-hmm. Thank you (somewhat casual).<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> I mean<\/i> that. I mean<\/i> that.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I don\u2019t doubt it, I don\u2019t doubt it. I see how you work, back it up. Umm-hmm. And she does that, the commu\u2014 the communists won\u2019t know what to do with it. She\u2019s real. She\u2019s real. Umm-hmm, umm-hmm, umm-hmm.<\/p>\n

Pauline<\/b> (probably Pauline Groot, given the age of the speaking voice): Uh, I don\u2019t really want to go to Cuba, and this is an emotional feeling, but I thought up two logical arguments to back it up.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hmm?<\/p>\n

Pauline:<\/b> <\/b>One is that, we have some people, they\u2019re good family members but they are still doing things that would get them thrown in jail or even in one case hung<\/i> if they were under socialist law of Cuba. And if we go back there \u2014 if we go to Cuba, it\u2019s unlikely that we can protect them. And I don\u2019t think they would necessarily stop<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Very logical, Pauline. (Pause) They don\u2019t dare molest any minors<\/i>, I can tell you that. Their laws are strict<\/i>. They don\u2019t ha \u2014 they don\u2019t hang too many people, or kill many in Cuba, but uh, they don\u2019t take no child molesting. (Unintelligible question about sleep).<\/p>\n

Crowd voices unintelligible.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hmm? Are they \u2014 are they \u2014 I\u2019ll tell you some of these people, that\u2019s what so cruel, so they could \u2014 they won\u2019t steal a (unintelligible word \u2014 sounds like “wick”) over there. They do it \u2018cause I\u2019m loving and they think, well, they get by.<\/p>\n

Male voice in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They won\u2019t steal where somebody gonna throw them in jail.<\/p>\n

Male voice in crowd:<\/b> They sure won\u2019t.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Unh-unh.<\/p>\n

Crowd voices unintelligible.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> There\u2019s one fault that \u2014 there\u2019s another thing in Cuba that has, that if people got so much money and there\u2019s (tape distorted) lots of luxury goods and not being educated, and they\u2019re standing around trying to get you to buy something in the government store, where tourists can buy things, some of this shit of Cuba \u2014 luxury shit little, little uh, cheaper, and they\u2019ll try to get you to do it, and uh, I don\u2019t know what they uh, white market<\/a>, Lew [Jones], Lew know more about this, some sonuvabitch, maybe it\u2019s a, maybe it\u2019s a Cuba, Cuban intelligence trying to test to see who\u2019s loyal, I don\u2019t know, but there\u2019s fuckers all around you. Very little prostitution. Very<\/i> little prostitution, I didn\u2019t have anybody bother me but one, and it wasn\u2019t, I don\u2019t know, (tape distorted) I\u2019m not going to talk about it. And that\u2019s something for a large country not to be bothered, \u2018cause you \u2014 you go in to a big hotel, I\u2019m telling you, young or old, there\u2019ll be somebody there going to proposition you with some money. And that, that\u2019s, that was significant. I only had one. I believe only one time.<\/p>\n

Male voice:<\/b> Uh, I may be out of line for this, but, uh, I think there\u2019s been enough said \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) He said they had a woman proposition him in Cuba for his coat, so.<\/p>\n

Male voice:<\/b> I think there\u2019s been enough said \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2014 (unintelligible) for his coat.<\/p>\n

Male voice:<\/b> \u2014 there\u2019s been enough said by Dad to take a vote. I don\u2019t know about all of you folks that are coming up here giving speeches, but I don\u2019t know what work you\u2019re doing tomorrow, but uh, I\u2019d like you to come out and work with me<\/i> tomorrow if you\u2019re going to keep me up until three in the goddamn morning.<\/p>\n

(Audience laughter)<\/p>\n

Male:<\/b><\/b> And I wish you\u2019d just say \u2014 you know, if you got something new to say \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah, that\u2019s \u2014<\/p>\n

Male:<\/b> \u2014 say it, all right? But I\u2019m, I\u2019m tired of speeches, I really am tired. Write it down, you know, and we\u2019ll put it on your grave, all right.<\/p>\n

(Audience murmurs, laughter, sustained applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay, if you can, make it concise, \u2018cause otherwise, we, we\u2019ll now, we\u2019ll lose, we\u2019ll lose all the thoughts. Somebody gonna fall out with a stroke with this shit.<\/p>\n

(Audience murmurs)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Is the emotion \u2014 she don\u2019t want to go \u2014 she make a good point, what was the point she didn\u2019t want to go for?<\/p>\n

Pauline:<\/b> Dad \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They get in trouble if they don\u2019t keep the laws. Okay.<\/p>\n

Pauline:<\/b> And, and \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They got some people here that can only be controlled by a very tight structure, and if they don\u2019t know all about U.S. ghetto \u2014 and that may be the very reason they\u2019ll let us stay together as a cooperative. That\u2019s one of the reasons that Guyana let us stay. They say, Hey, shit<\/i>. We can use these people politically. We can use these people politically. They\u2019re worth it, but I don\u2019t know whether we want to release all these American ghetto folk in our stre \u2014 so maybe we better let Jim Jones stay there and let him kill him<\/i>self trying to keep them good. So that might<\/i> be \u2014 they look at my history here, I haven\u2019t gone out of this farm, so it\u2019s, it\u2019s possible<\/i>, we\u2019ll try to negotiate it. As bad as I want (unintelligible \u2014 sounds like “hate want to”) being your leader, I just think it\u2019s a chance it won\u2019t happen, that\u2019s all. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> And I\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I think you better start communicating that right now, and say we got \u2014 they do well, and they will<\/i> do well, and then I can help educate them communistically and the Cubans oughta come out here and see for their fucking selves<\/i>. First place, you ought to\u2014 they oughta get their ass out and see for themselves. Let\u2019s go. What\u2019s the other problem?<\/p>\n

Pauline:<\/b> If \u2014 if you aren\u2019t<\/i> our leader, some of our folk are probably gonna think they\u2019re smart enough to get away with any<\/i>thing, laws or no<\/i> laws, even \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> In Cuba? Huh!<\/p>\n

Pauline:<\/b> Some \u2014 some of them have the most swelled<\/i> heads, and \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They\u2019ll get unswelled<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Pauline:<\/b> (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2014 when they, when they see that crack, when they see those crack Cuban, uh, uh, you\u2014 youth corps marching around. (Pause) And they, and every \u2014 every block has a committee for the defense for revolution.<\/p>\n

Unidentified male,<\/b> off mike: Sure does.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You start any shit, gossip, it\u2019ll be, it\u2019ll, they believe, they believe in reporting, they\u2019ve, they save their country from U.S. when they tried to destroy it with swine flu, they tried to put, seed their goddamned clouds \u2014 (Angry) What are you talking to her for when I\u2019m talking to you, Pauline, for Christ\u2019s sakes? I, you\u2019re having a dialogue so that I\u2019ll listen to me. (Deliberate) I\u2019m saying to you, that those people report (draws out word) everything, every block has its committee of the defense of revolution.<\/p>\n

Unidentified male, <\/b>off mike: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Every square block. And any shit that goes on, they believe in reporting it, because they didn\u2019t<\/i> report and they damn<\/i> near got destroyed at the Bay of Pigs. And they were, they were tortured under Batista, and they know what the hell fascism is, so they believe reporting is an honorable<\/i> thing and this place still<\/i> doesn\u2019t believe it is. (Pause) And they will not<\/i> report it. (Speaks rapidly) You get it up here, to here, as someone says, why the hell didn\u2019t you tell us when you come over here, all this shit you knew, if you\u2019d given us this shit, if you\u2019d put it to us when you got<\/i> here, or before<\/i> you got here, we could\u2019ve stopped<\/i> some shit. And you gotta live with your guilt, \u2018cause I think it\u2019s obvious as the nose on your face, and some of you didn\u2019t even respond to it, I think, uh, Sister Johnson made some remarks, and \u2014 Hell, it\u2019s as plain as the nose on your face, but you didn\u2019t even<\/i> respond to it, you didn\u2019t even take it, take it to heart. You don\u2019t believe in reporting.<\/i> You don\u2019t even go to the trouble to report something. So what happens? A boy gets cocky and rapes a little girl. And if you\u2019d been doing your job, it wouldn\u2019t have happened. (Unintelligible) not one boy, lots<\/i> of boys. \u2018Cause you don\u2019t want to get in trouble. You want, you want to cover your ass. Well, I\u2019ll, you\u2019ll never build a communist society covering your ass.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs assent.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You gotta report everything. \u2018Cause reporting takes an entirely<\/i> different significance, here you\u2019re reporting to protect<\/i> the people, in the system back there, you\u2019re reporting to protect the police, to help the police. (Pause) And the police have to be efficient and humble, but not tote their gun \u2014 that\u2019s why a lot of them are requiring classes with them every week in self-analysis, they can\u2019t be walking around like uh, gaudy asses and making mistakes like two did the other day and arrest some woman, and run her ass clear across to the piggery. We\u2019re, we\u2019re not pigs. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Unidentified male,<\/b> off mike: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We\u2019re representative of the people. If it can\u2019t be<\/i>, you need to be off their ass. You need to be off, off the, off of the security. You ought to be securing this place, not using your uniform as a cover for la\u2014 laziness.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs assent.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You used to hang around the pavilion, hang around the pavilion and movies. How do you know where to be, security?<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs assent.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You know what I mean\u2014 it\u2019s tough<\/i>, it\u2019s a tough job when you take it seriously like some of them are taking it. It should be the best people in the police, \u2018cause people \u2014 should be representatives of the people. Okay, go on.<\/p>\n

Pauline:<\/b> The other thing was, some of our people that\u2019s still back in America might have a tough time getting to Cuba especially \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Short laugh) That\u2019s gotta be worked out for me<\/i> before I ever go.<\/p>\n

Pauline:<\/b> Yeah. Okay.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I \u2014 I \u2014 I \u2014 I ain\u2019t going. If they say they won\u2019t take people from the United States, I say, Fuck you. I ain\u2019t going. You people can go. We\u2019ll give you the boat and you can go.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I mean, well, I mean the ones who want to go, we\u2019ll let you go. You can take the babies and go on and we\u2019ll, we\u2019ll stay here. Or slip through the goddamn wilds and get back \u2014 do what the hell we can. We may get killed before we get to Caracas on our way home or wherever in the hell we go \u2014 maybe go south, who knows, whatever way you have to sneak in to get back there \u2014<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> I wanted to respond \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I ain\u2019t going, I ain\u2019t going nowhere, though, that none of my, some of those people back there can\u2019t go. I can tell you right now, I ain\u2019t going.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs.<\/p>\n

Woman in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right. Thank you, Dad.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Cries out) I ain\u2019t going.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Minister tone) Too tired \u2014<\/p>\n

Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2014 fought too many battles, struggled too long, been true<\/i> to all of you, and I ain\u2019t going to start being true to 99% of you now, I\u2019m going to be true to 100%, or I\u2019m going to slit my throat with my own fingernail tonight.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019d rather be dead, tortured \u2014<\/p>\n

Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2014 I am<\/i> being tortured, and I\u2019m not going to live with a tortured conscience. And you youth, I wish to God<\/i> you could get it. Maybe Professor [Edith] Roller is right, \u2018cause you\u2019re never going to get it from me, but if they throw your ass into some of these communist schools, you\u2019ll get it. (Pause) You may not get as much character in a million years that you get from me, \u2018cause you talk while I talk, and you play while I\u2019m talking, and you don\u2019t give a shit, and you take me for granted. But if they throw your ass in a communist school, and you get around to the communist nations, and you will<\/i> grow up.<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And I don\u2019t think some of you ever will, as long as I\u2019m alive, if you want my frank opinion.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> I wanted to respond to what Professor Roller said about your becoming a great leader in Cuba and consequently the world revolution.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I think that\u2019s unfortunately a beautiful vision on her part, but I \u2014 I\u2019m very dubious of it. What do you think?<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> I think it shows a lot of un\u2014 idealism<\/i>, because, unless communism has managed to change the human personality so dramatically in the last 20 years \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2014 and eliminate nationalism.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> (Laughs.) Right. I don\u2019t, I don\u2019t think that, uh, jealousy has been gotten rid of. I think if the great leaders of Cuba saw you<\/i> as a great leader, their first response would not<\/i> be to elevate you to a prime position in the world politics. I think it would be to suppress<\/i> you, because there would still be jealousy. And also, I think this is a little bit in contradiction to what you just said, but I might as well say it.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I don\u2019t mind, honey. I don\u2019t mind contradictions. When I speak like I know somebody\u2019s thoughts, then that\u2019s a realm you can\u2019t contradict<\/i>, but when we\u2019re here in a public meeting, you can \u2014 I\u2019m not worried about it.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> She said that she thought that it would be terrific for the youth to be highly-educated in s\u2014 schools all over the world, great universities.<\/p>\n

Woman in crowd:<\/b> No, I didn\u2019t mean that, I meant to serve in the revolution (unintelligible).<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay. Well, anyway. What \u2014 And you may have misunderstood me<\/i>. I meant that some of these people slip around here doing nothing<\/i>. All they do is look moony-eyed at each other. And uh, I meant there<\/i>, the very institutions<\/i> would cause them to have to mature<\/i> to some degree. (Deliberate tone) However, one thing I did<\/i> see that I didn\u2019t like, too many women in Latin America, the whole scene, leaning on the man and they were not \u2014\u00a0but Castro\u2019s trying to fight it. He\u2019s trying to fight it (unintelligible) babies, and trying to eliminate it. But boy, I saw some moony-eyed bitches there too. Boy, crazy<\/i> sick moony-eyed bitches.<\/p>\n

Man in crowd:<\/b> (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah, all wrapped up (tape distortion) wrapped up sick. I saw a woman right across from me had a cross on, around her neck. I thought, oh shit<\/i>. I had to come down to Cuba to watch somebody with a gold cross<\/i> on their fucking neck. But that\u2019s freedom<\/i>, they say, I guess, you have freedom to wear a gold cross, but I don\u2019t like that kind of freedom. If I was a communist, be a different kind of brand to me. Those crosses wouldn\u2019t be there.<\/p>\n

Man in crowd:<\/b> One thing they didn\u2019t like was those\u2014 the (unintelligible word \u2014 sounds like “cadence” or “cave-in”) in Communist Party buildings.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah, I didn\u2019t like that. I got lost and they had the machine guns on all of us when we got lost, we ended up in the head\u2014 the goddamned headquarters of Dr. Castro, we were supposed to be going someplace else \u2014 I can\u2019t tell \u2014<\/p>\n

Man in crowd: <\/b>(Unintelligible) museum.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We were supposed to go to fucking museum the time\u2014\u00a0My driver gets all fucked up and takes me to the very inner<\/i> elite most guarded<\/i> fucking cell of the Communist Party where Castro is, and I walked right in, submachine gun looking at me, rrrrr (low growling).<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd unintelligible.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And we were walking in there and we sat down, and what in the hell kind of museum is this?<\/p>\n

Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I ain\u2019t seen nothing<\/i> in this son<\/i> of a bitch \u2014\u00a0I said, we\u2019re in the wrong place. And we see somebody coming around in a little old cart and a white coat, all those silver silver \u2014 all I remember that silver cups, and silver coffee pots, I said I don\u2019t like this shit. China. And I said, what\u2019re they doing? They said, well, this is the Central Committee, this is the heads<\/i> of the Communist Party. Oh, you\u2019re right in the head of the Communist Party, all the bigwigs are here. And he\u2019s taking them their breakfast. (Low voice) I thought, oh-h-h, shit. A little elitism<\/i>, you know. Lot<\/i> of elitism. You don\u2019t \u2014\u00a0I don\u2019t believe in \u2014 There ain\u2019t no time<\/i> to serve nobody<\/i> out of china, when there\u2019re folk going hungry. And I don\u2019t think I\u2019ll make a good Cuban<\/i> in the ideal<\/i> sense. But I\u2019ll just shut my mouth for the sake of children so we \u2014 anything\u2019s better \u2014 or maybe not \u2014 but it seems to me, it\u2019s a lot better than trying to kill little babies to give them, uh, something what maybe, twice as bet \u2014\u00a0twice better than USA than to just kill them. If you, if that \u2014\u00a0Am I making any sense?<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs assent.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Maybe half as good as I am, but it\u2019s a half times better than twice as bet\u2014 better than the USA. Umm.<\/p>\n

Tape pauses briefly, but murmurs consistent with tape continuous running.<\/p>\n

Crowd murmurs.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> Anyway, there was this opportunity for the youth to uh, go to Cuba and to become educated in other schools and become highly-trained professionals, I\u2019d say I\u2019d rather stay with, with uh, Dad, because, if you have a choice of being a highly-trained professional, and there are many of them in the world, or a choice of being a truly principled individual, and there are very few of those in the world, I\u2019d choose to be highly-principled, and forget the education, and we\u2019re only going to get that from Jim, I mean for, to the level that we\u2019ve ever gotten it, and we would always be disappointed in another leader, so if I had a choice between extreme professionalism and great training, and being highly principled \u2014 and that would mean staying with Father \u2014 I would stay with him.<\/p>\n

Tape pauses for unknown duration. Subject has changed when tape comes back on.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> All<\/i> those that are going to be in that hearing tomorrow of those families, any elite<\/i> points you know, any corrupt<\/i> thing you know about any of them, get it to her right now as quickly as possible. Any corrupt thing you know about any of those people, \u2018cause we\u2019re gonna, we\u2019re gonna make an accusation in front of their TVs and point them out what they are. Least we can do that if we can\u2019t hit them with a (unintelligible phrase \u2014 sounds like “bull club”), we can hit them with words.<\/p>\n

(General crowd assent)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They may not print a word<\/i> of it, but the sons of bitches will be embarrassed the next time they start a (unintelligible word \u2014 sounds like “round”). (Pause) (Reprimanding) Curt [Winters], I heard you, did you not, Tim Stoen want to murder Kinsolving? Didn\u2019t you plan to blow up whatever the goddamn buildings you want to blow up? You were going to do<\/i> that, and it was Jim Jones<\/i> that stopped you from that. You<\/i> tried to turn us to terrorism, and he wanted to go the way of peace. You<\/i> are a liar<\/i>. You ought to be put in jail<\/i>. You are a subversive<\/i>. Throw it back at him.<\/i> He accuse us of being un-American now. What, is that American, to go around trying to kill Kinsolving? He spent all night up in the library, and he got all kinds of witnesses doing that, on how he was going to kill Kinsolving, \u2018cause \u2014 all out of spite<\/i>, all on a personal vendetta, \u2018cause Kinsolving said something about him. That\u2019s why I don\u2019t like you folk thinking about vendettas. Personal vengeance is not a communist practice. I knew there was something \u2014 I was sick about him. I said, you mean you\u2019re going to kill Kinsolving<\/i>. This is stupid<\/i>, killing Kinsolving. I said, he\u2019s nothing<\/i>. He\u2019s a small fish. Don\u2019t bother killing no Kinsolving. I \u2014 I \u2014 I had to put my feet<\/i> on him, and he still<\/i> went out and hired a damn detective against my wishes, and had the son of a bitch in my, my driveway, to find him and locate him so he could get<\/i> him killed. And then, then the fucker didn\u2019t do anything but take his thousand dollars, and he didn\u2019t give him nothing.<\/p>\n

Unknown woman off mike:<\/b> We were planning (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Tape pause of unknown duration<\/p>\n

Crowd noise.<\/p>\n

Elderly black<\/b> woman:<\/b> Oh. Dad, uh, I wanted to say that when I was cleaning greens this afternoon down there, I heard you say that it take five seniors that could go and \u2014 to the states or five seniors there or whatever, but I\u2019d like to be included in one of the five, because I\u2019ve had a taste of freedom \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Elderly black<\/b> woman:<\/b> \u2014 and I love our children to be free. And if killing these people would help it, and stop all this mess, just send me with them.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s \u2014 that\u2019s the way we\u2019re gonna get in trouble.<\/p>\n

(Ed. note: The FBI summary mentions that “an unknown volunteer [says] to go kill all the people causing the mess.” The summary doesn\u2019t include Jones\u2019 response.)<\/em><\/p>\n

Voices in crowd: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I said, nobody<\/i> else stand up (laughs) and the whole fucking house stood up. (Laughs) Please, no one sit down now. (Pause) Everybody sit down. I said, please, no one sit down, everyone sat down.<\/p>\n

(General laughter)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I said, please don\u2019t sit down.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Male off mike:<\/b> Everyone stand up please.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) (Happily) I \u2014 The more I see you, the more I love you, and I see such character, some of these older people gone go back and kill\u2014 but the more I feel like I\u2019ll just take my chances. I\u2019m on ground that we got, and fuck it tomorrow. I\u2019m gone tell you, but I\u2014 I don\u2019t know what we gone unless (unintelligible phrase). Let\u2019s go on. Go on to the next one. Nobody else stand up in this<\/i> line, is what I meant. Now you can sit down.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> But you\u2019re supposed to stretch<\/i> while you sit down.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Elderly voice:<\/b> Daddy?<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I don\u2019t know how Castro have any more reason to get upset over the way they sh\u2014 they clap for 20 minutes before he speaks by more or less orchestration, than they would see a sister, just, beautiful sister [Ameal] Staten (unintelligible) that was saying like this, whatever she did. Now what\u2019s the difference? You know. Worship\u2019s worship. You can call it God or you can call it leader. It\u2019s still worship. (Pause) I don\u2019t<\/i> think the communists would like that kind of analysis. (Pause) I think they take worship and utilize it for good, and they gotta recognize it for that. Hmm? If they don\u2019t recognize it, then they\u2019re not where they<\/i> ought to be.<\/p>\n

General audience:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Go ahead.<\/p>\n

Elderly accented male voice:<\/b> Daddy, I \u2014 I come in to tell you I don\u2019t want to go to Cuba.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (High-pitched laughter) Okay, Pop.<\/p>\n

Elderly accented male voice:<\/b> And, uh \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> His ass has been all the way from the\u2014 the Azore Islands to Portugal and back to the United States. I don\u2019t blame you.<\/p>\n

Elderly accented male voice:<\/b> I\u2014 I can explain to myself a lot of time that I like to say something, but I don\u2019t say anything because something I can\u2019t understand\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Oh, you say it very plain.<\/p>\n

Elderly accented male voice: <\/b>\u2014 and, uh, ah, Dad, uh, we senior citizens, we (unintelligible word \u2014 sounds like “thorough”) go over there to Cuba to work and\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughter)<\/p>\n

Elderly accented male voice:<\/b> \u2014 and if the United States don\u2019t give our check, the Cuba people don\u2019t going to work for us, we going to die anyhow.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughter)<\/p>\n

(General audience laughter)<\/p>\n

Elderly accented male voice:<\/b> We come in here for security \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You say you don\u2019t make any sense? I think you make a lot of sense.<\/p>\n

(General audience laughter)<\/p>\n

Elderly accented male voice:<\/b> I\u2019m going to stay here. I\u2019m come in here, not to for give you no trouble. I don\u2019t want \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Let me tell you, you don\u2019t ever. And don\u2019t worry about the (unintelligible word), you\u2019re never going to go hungry. We all die first.<\/p>\n

General audience affirmation: <\/b>Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay?<\/p>\n

(Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Check or no check, the sons of bitches<\/i>, we\u2019ll give them a White Night \u2014 (Irritated) What in the hell is going on?<\/p>\n

(General audience laughter)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughter) \u2014mind me, it remind me of some scene I saw some, a long time ago, some fucking funeral, I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

(General audience laughter and applause).<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughter) They got Moton in the crowd (Laughter). Shit, you people are the one who come \u2014 you, you gettin\u2019 a blessing. You getting a blessing. You\u2014 you\u2019ll avoid a stroke walking around. Okay, go. No. (Shouts) Go!<\/p>\n

Young white female:<\/b> Okay, I, uh \u2014 Dad, I \u2014 I think I\u2019m very dependent personally on your leadership, on the family being intact, I think a lot of other people are. Uh \u2014 I think if we go to Cuba, we won\u2019t be in the same position to, uh \u2014 Maybe in the beginning, they\u2019ll accept us as an intact group with your leadership. We might not always be in that position. You\u2019re very humble<\/i> about saying that you\u2019ll do whatever is necessary and, you know, do whatever work is necessary \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> By the way, you should be writing up \u2014 Tropp or somebody should write up, there should be some notes \u2014 What\u2019s the matter?<\/p>\n

Female voice:<\/b> Nothing.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What\u2019s the matter, Stephan [Jones]?<\/p>\n

Stephan:<\/b> (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2014 writing up the \u2014 write some notes on the, why we think it should<\/i> a group intact. I think we can make some cases, intellectually, that might appeal to the Cubans. (Pause) And the assurances that, uh, if there\u2019s any difficulty, we will certainly, uh, you know, change<\/i>. I mean, if there\u2019s anybody that can take out or we can educate, we will more than gladly, those that can fit in, and they can make analysis of, we\u2019ll\u2014 and we\u2019ll (unintelligible word) happy. And if we \u2014 We \u2014 If we\u2019re all once there, you know, we got the same situation we got here, we can White Night one place as another. (Low growly voice) Right on.<\/p>\n

(General crowd noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I \u2014 I \u2014 I don\u2019t object to that, Stephan, I\u2019m just telling you, I\u2019m just pointing out \u2014 pointing out our prospects. I mean, I am tired \u2014 too tired to go anywhere.<\/p>\n

Young female voice:<\/b> And, um, I \u2014 I think that the, the Cuban government will be very threatened by your ability to \u2014 and leadership and um, I would prefer to fi\u2014 fight it out here. Thank you.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay. (Low aside) Hell of an organizer\u2014 (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Voice: <\/b>Who\u2019s talking?<\/p>\n

Elderly woman:<\/b> Dad? I wanted to say that I don\u2019t want to go to Cuba.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You don\u2019t.<\/p>\n

Elderly woman:<\/b> \u2014 and \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, why, honey?<\/p>\n

Elderly<\/b> woman:<\/b> You<\/i> said you<\/i> wasn\u2019t going.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No, I didn\u2019t say that.<\/p>\n

Elderly woman:<\/b> No, I \u2014 what I mean you say \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I didn\u2019t say that. I said, if one of you couldn\u2019t get in, I won\u2019t go \u2014 I won\u2019t get off the boat.<\/p>\n

Elderly<\/b>woman:<\/b> If you<\/i> stay, I\u2019ll<\/i> stay. If you<\/i> go back out to sea, I\u2019ll<\/i> go back to sea.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay, that\u2019s okay, that\u2019s okay. I got you. I read you, sweetie. We\u2019re together. It\u2019s you and me, all the way. (Clicks tongue in confidential manner).<\/p>\n

(Long pause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No more talking! If you want to die (laughs), Reb (?) will kill you with his hat. (Laughs) Now. (Pause) You can think about it, how many here know what we talked about? (Pause) Okay. We talked uh, (stutters) now we were talking about Cuban red beans. How many know that?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Light, bantering) Cuban red beans. (Pause) They\u2019re old timers, but \u2014 they may not know what\u2019s going on, but they ain\u2019t going fall for that trick twice. (Laughs.) All right, how many want to go to Cuba?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Woman off mike: <\/b>How many want to go to Cuba?<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> One, two \u2014 okay, Christie and Professor \u2014\u00a0now let\u2019s hold, hold up. Let them get their hands up. Get your hands up. Now some of \u2014 you people need to make more of a \u2014 another time when we\u2019re not so tired, more points because you\u2019re an honest dissenting minority. You want to go to Cuba\u2014 Cuba too, honey?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Honey, I ain\u2019t even decided where I\u2019m going<\/i>, so how in the hell do you know what you \u2014 you go with me, these people are going whether I go or not<\/i>. They\u2019re voting, how many are going to C\u2014 how many want to go to Cuba<\/i>?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Voice:<\/b> Edward Moore\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Incredulous) Edward Moore?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Which way is Cuba, Edward?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Male voice off mike:<\/b> It\u2019s in the north chapter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s uh \u2014 it\u2019s down at the north end in the cooperative. (Pause) What\u2019s that? (Pause) It\u2019s over that way. Oh, I\u2019m sorry. Out by the piggery? To the northwest of the piggery. Oh, well, thank you.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What is it, Hazel? (Pause) It is?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise and laughter)<\/p>\n

Young male voice:<\/b> Hell, we\u2019ll never get there. Shit!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Northeast? (Pause) No, Hazel, I don\u2019t know \u2014<\/p>\n

End of side 1<\/b><\/p>\n

Side 2: <\/b>Another night?<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Ministerial tone) You made us look at it. You gotta participate. Somebody\u2019s gotta dissent. And some really beautiful people dissented. And the ones of you that got up and voted because you\u2019re scared of dying, keep on moving along with Father (last clause shouted in song).<\/p>\n

(Woman singing)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Father\u2019s blood pressure the last time was up, the danger, shouldn\u2019t even be up, sitting down here, that was two hours ago. So now, come on, let\u2019s get our asses together, clap so our enemies (confidential tone) may be out there lurking \u2014 they might be hearing \u2014 clap your hands and sway in here and lift your voices twice as loud. (Sings) I said I\u2019m moving along with Father everyday.<\/i><\/p>\n

(Woman singing)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Please don\u2019t give me a lot of announcements now. (Pause) What\u2019s this about?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise, Jones talking low off mike)<\/p>\n

Low female voice: <\/b>(Unintelligible, sounds like “It\u2019s a newspaper, Dad.”)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Which one is this, who is this?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> She didn\u2019t do it? (Pause) We don\u2019t want \u2014 we don\u2019t want any injustice. (Pause) She didn\u2019t do it?<\/p>\n

(Low unintelligible voice)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Benevolent tone) That\u2019s good. You say she didn\u2019t do it? You\u2019re all three off.<\/p>\n

Girl:<\/b> Thank you, Dad.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2014 for being honest, for saving her. That\u2019s what I like, is integrity. They said one of the sisters had been falsely charged with, whatever the hell it was, I don\u2019t remember what it was \u2014 (Announcing) Okay, there\u2019s no snacks tonight, they had no time to prepare for them. It\u2019s one o\u2019clock. That means we got to lose some production time \u2014 I hate like hell to do it \u2014 so you, the six, six o\u2019clock\u2019s up at eight. Nope, don\u2019t fuck around, I want some sleep. (Pause) (Low voice) Six o\u2019clock up at eight? All right. (Normal tone) Seven o\u2019clock up at nine, and I want you out<\/i>, honey, out<\/i> to the fields. (Unintelligible word \u2014 sounds like name of “Vannie”, or “then”) you understand? Huh?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay, good breakfast and all through the day, then we\u2019ll go to seven<\/i>, okay?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise. Organ strikes a few notes.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And will you ple\u2014 Cut all school out, yes, please, get all the fields, use all the employees \u2014<\/p>\n

(General audience affirmation and applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We got \u2014 we got inspection<\/i>, people, you gotta use some of this learning, people, you gotta get this place beautified. I\u2019m depending on every teacher<\/i>, I\u2019m depending on nursing<\/i> people, everybody to see<\/i> this \u2014 I\u2019m just mentioning, teacher, educators and nursing personnel, medical personnel, to see<\/i> this place, and look at it and get this up. There\u2019s a place over there, there\u2019s some of those buildings that need to be washed<\/i> outside. I don\u2019t know what you do, you must wipe your feet<\/i> on them. You must wipe your feet on them. And it\u2019s gotta be stopped. Hmm?<\/p>\n

(Low voice unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Socialist classes. (Exasperated) Ooh-h-h, Jesus. (Pause) Tomorrow night, let\u2019s have a quiet kind of movie, and we\u2019ll worry about socialist classes the next night, when he\u2019s<\/i> here \u2014 after\u2014 but maybe have socialist classes and then entertainment af\u2014 But first, get him off, get his ass cleaned up and rested for half an hour, and talk him to death in the house while we get Bruce settled which ought to take half an hour meeting, right? (Pause). It won\u2019t take Karen that long, take it \u2014 take him home and do \u2014 (Pause) (Light banter) Hold him there, Karen, hold \u2014 she, she fell over on that one.<\/p>\n

(General audience laughter)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, whatever. We\u2019ll get him settled, because he\u2019ll then probably have to \u2014 if he don\u2019t react<\/i> right, there\u2019ll be learning. So it ain\u2019t going to take all night har\u2014 harping on him or anybody else. So we got to have an entertainment program, and uh, the \u2014 the socialist classes should be held. He\u2019s only got one night, so we have<\/i> to do it then. And not<\/i> tomorrow night \u2014 no, yeah, that\u2019s Saturday night. So socialist classes will have to be Saturday. It\u2019s the only way I can see it. Hmm?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Talks quickly) I\u2019ll just be se\u2014 I don\u2019t know whether you people is going to have to be prepared. They\u2019re going to have teachers\u2019 class tomorrow, that\u2019s one thing. And you\u2019ll have to get your format and decide what the hell you talking \u2014 and it\u2019s going to be pro-Soviet (popping noise with mouth) right down the line. We\u2019re going to get the line, and you\u2019re going to follow the line. Hmm?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise): Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay. Any other announcements that have to be (unintelligible word) before we go?<\/p>\n

Male in crowd:<\/b> No.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yes, dear.<\/p>\n

(Low female voice in crowd unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What\u2019s that?<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You \u2014 you have to wake up Joe [Beam] in time please to get back to work tomorrow. You wake him up\u2014 The first group is eight. By that I mean the first breakfast is eight. And the next is nine and they got to get at \u2014 at \u2014 try to eat fast and get out there. We go to seven, and then we have the, uh \u2014 tomorrow night nothing but teacher\u2019s class and movie. Right? (Unintelligible \u2014 sounds like “Steering? I<\/i> don\u2019t\u2014 whether you have any steering cla\u2014”) I don\u2019t know what the hell is going on this evening, that (unintelligible word). I don\u2019t know what night this is. Son of a bitches<\/i>. (Voice turns menacing) I\u2019d like to get them through one White Night<\/i> and kill them all. One thing you could know, you\u2019ve grown, \u2018cause we put some of these fuckers through one White Night, and that\u2019d be all.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise): Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Bless you, did you get your three? I want to synchronize because we need the health. Sorry for those snacks, we\u2019ll get up the good breakfast, I want a good breakfast over there. Peace and love and do (unintelligible word) out of here. Pick up every piece of trash you see tomorrow. Here, here, here, here? We got \u2014 (Shouts) Listen, honey. (Normal but stern tone) Your ass getting to Cuba<\/i> or Russia<\/i> or anyplace<\/i>, our safety<\/i> here will depend on how this place looks, and how well you dress<\/i> and clean yourself up. You follow what I\u2019m saying?<\/p>\n

(General audience noises of assent)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So, by God, everybody be sh\u2014 concerned<\/i> about anything<\/i>. They broke down a fence<\/i>. Some mother fucker broke a fence down, over there behind Dorm 5, just to make a path back over to the cottages, just tore the sumbitch out. Now that\u2019s gotta be \u2014 Brother [Marshall] Farris I know will do it, he\u2019ll get the saw and fix it \u2014 I don\u2019t know what the hell\u2019s the matter with people. We got to look<\/i> at that. We got to look<\/i> at that kinda situation. We gotta beautify<\/i> everything, every weed<\/i> you see as you go along, get rid<\/i> of it, throw it down the toilet<\/i>, whatever in the hell, you understand what I\u2019m saying?<\/p>\n

(General audience noises of assent)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We gotta wash down these houses that you\u2019re in. You got hand marks, dirt marks, look like you climbed \u2014 like some kind of a fr\u2014\u00a0a frog, with a sponge on or something, sticky feet. So we gotta get that all cleaned up. We gotta clean the areas all around us. Yes, Selika [BORDENAVE]?<\/p>\n

Selika:<\/b> What \u2014 what can I do about uh, cottages out there that\u2019s dirty on the outside?<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They\u2019re gonna wash<\/i> them. That cot\u2014 Every cottage is going to have to wash them.<\/p>\n

Selika:<\/b> No, they out in the field, they won\u2019t be able to wash them.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/b> \u2014 learning crew \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The learning crew they can get over there. Maybe the learning crew can get over there and wash them. We gotta get them \u2014 We gotta look \u2014 We gotta look spic and span. The \u2014 We gotta get \u2014 the \u2014 more plants on the porches, more little park-like settings, they gotta \u2014 Eliza [JONES]\u2019s gotta lotta little park-like setting, but we gotta take some of the benches and put them around that (unintelligible word) rise, make it look like a little setting right in that park way down there, right \u2014 and on each dorm, so they can be cozy<\/i> little things. Somebody reading, I saw somebody reading under the porch last night, somebody quilting\u2014 Active<\/i> people, everybody active. Nobody looking around wi\u2014 And when you go by him, give him a salute. How do the Soviets salute? Left or right?<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/b> Left.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hold it now, goddammit.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> There\u2019s a Trotskyite and there\u2019s a \u2014 (chuckles). Let\u2019s find out.<\/p>\n

Male voice in crowd:<\/b> Then if you say, hello comrade \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> All right, be one way to cover some of these people who will talk to him about \u2014 Jesus, if they just do this, if you go by and lift up your hand and say \u2014\u00a0Hmm?<\/p>\n

Male voice:<\/b> When they came to the house, they didn\u2019t do anything, they just \u2014 they \u2014 I mean \u2014<\/p>\n

Another male:<\/b> They shook hands.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They do in Cuba.<\/p>\n

(General audience noise)<\/p>\n

Male voice:<\/b> They might be impressed by it, though.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I think they\u2019d be impressed, because they\u2019re expecting religion. That\u2019s why I think we need to compensate for all that religious shit. (Pause) You can smile \u2014 And everybody won\u2019t do it anyway, you know that, (low voice) you know that shit. (unintelligible word) But don\u2019t say \u2014 when you see him, say, “Greetings, comrade,” or “hello, comrade.” You understand what I\u2019m saying? “So happy to have you with us, comrade.” Comrade, comrade, comrade, comrade, comrade. You hear? Don\u2019t say “brother.” Say “comrade.” How many will say “comrade” now?<\/p>\n

General audience:<\/b> Comrade.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And so \u2014 if five percent of us say “comrade,” at least he\u2019ll know we got some comradery here. Everybody say “comrade.”<\/p>\n

General audience:<\/b> (Shouts) Comrade.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Everything you can see, please, use your mind to straighten this up and clean it up, any (unintelligible word\u2014 sounds like “fault”), put it in that radio room so we can get things str\u2014 and please, that t\u2014 that radio\u2019s been neglected lately. I mean, that fucking porch\u2014 People gotta live there. They got a little baby<\/i> there coming in, and that goddamn place is a shitpot<\/i>, and I want that<\/i> not neglected like that. There\u2019re shit cakes on it. Now you keep that porch clean, better than it\u2019s being cleaned.<\/p>\n

(Organ music)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You know the committee\u2019s that supposed to be in charge of that. That\u2019s not inspectors. The inspectors ride their ass if they don\u2019t do it. I don\u2019t want to see that shit no more. Tired of it. (Pause) Love you. I do love you. Think of the victories we won. We wouldn\u2019t \u2014 We would of paid taxes into the millions, we won over the state of California. They took away our name<\/i>, took away our taxes, our insurance, that\u2019s, uh \u2014 I mean our tax exemption and our name, our corporate name, and the last group that happened to, lost it forever. (Pause) And we won with the attorney general<\/i>. Now that fucker\u2019s not on our back at this point. And we won a meeting on this question of the doctor again. So, White Night paid. It paid. And I hope<\/i> some of you got a little bit more knowledge of yourself. If you didn\u2019t, you ought to be sorry. Peace and love. (Pause) We\u2019ll use the left hand until I tell you otherwise.<\/p>\n

(Organ music and general audience noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Benediction) I love you very much. Think now, as you go down the path, please, on healings, blessings, protections, people I\u2019ve saved from jail, people\u2019s lives I\u2019ve saved when you were paralyzed, crippled, homes that were being lost, no home, nobody to love you. Father cares. Father cares. You can tell in his voice he cares. He cares, and he\u2019ll be with you all the way. Good night, my darlings. Good night, comrade. Good night, comrade. Good night, comrade. So, you\u2019ll have to have full entertainment\u2014 you\u2019ll have to have a full entertainment, cross-section of entertainment, you know.<\/p>\n

Voice shushes others.<\/p>\n

Male voice:<\/b> \u2014 the program \u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No, he saw it. Okay. Well, we\u2019ll pick out some spots and maybe some new spots he hadn\u2019t seen<\/i> yet. Peace. That\u2019s Saturday. Socialist classes are Saturday.<\/p>\n

Voice shushes others.<\/p>\n

Male voice: Listen now too, all \u2014 all uh, security personnel that were issued, uh\u2014 issued by Joe, please return to the radio room with your\u2014 with your issue please. Everyone \u2014 and everybody, young people grab a bench and let\u2019s straighten up in here too. There\u2019s so much to do tomorrow. But everyone that was issued something by Joe, return it to the radio room, please.<\/p>\n

Long pause. Tape off for undetermined time, but context makes it sound as though it continues to run.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Don\u2019t call me, uh, uh, “Dad.” Call me “Comrade Jim.” “Comrade Jim.” “Comrade Jim.” “Comrade Jim.” “Comrade Jim.” You hear?<\/p>\n

General audience assent.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> All during that time, say, “Comrade Jim.” Now you have to exercise that, each cottage teacher, members, every dawn, “Comrade Jim,” “Comrade Jim.” “Comrade Marceline,” too. “Comrade Marceline.” What?<\/p>\n

Low question from audience.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> All over this place up, yep, you betcha. All the Soviet pictures, Lenin then, and, uh, you got what\u2019s his name, that other old fool.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted December 1998<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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