{"id":27511,"date":"2013-06-16T00:20:43","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:20:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27511"},"modified":"2023-06-18T11:18:04","modified_gmt":"2023-06-18T18:18:04","slug":"q639","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27511","title":{"rendered":"Q639 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Summary, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Conversational tone) This is my true nature at work. I like you, and I want to be relaxed with you. Shit, this is my true nature. I<\/i> don\u2019t like to fight with you. I don\u2019t\u2014 I don\u2019t like to see you hitting on each other. I love you very much.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise)<\/p>\n

Unidentified male voice:<\/b> I think you ought to be able\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> $3000? That\u2019s a heavy drunk. Shit.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What\u2019d you say?<\/p>\n

Unidentified male voice:<\/b> I think you ought to be able to do it more often, without people passing judgment.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> If I got drunk more often, you\u2019d all die, but not necessarily in the proper order.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise)<\/p>\n

Voice:<\/b> That\u2019s true.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No, I just chat with you. I love you all. I can\u2019t think of a soul I don\u2019t like tonight. That shows you what I\u2019m really<\/i> like down deep. I\u2019m glad for the experience. (Pause) Excuse me, Stephan [Jones]. But in the future<\/i>, when you give me that to lower my blood pressure, please<\/i> be sure you don\u2019t put on an empty stomach that hasn\u2019t eaten all day.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise, scattered) That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s kind of foolish<\/i> \u2014 as anybody knows out there that\u2019s drank \u2014 that\u2019s a good way to get an instant drunk<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise, scattered) That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hmm?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise, scattered) Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What did you say\u2014 what\u2019d you say there, Diane?<\/p>\n

Diane: <\/b>You get sick, too.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You get sick? I ain\u2019t got that yet. (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay now. What the hell we\u2019re going to do, if it\u2019s a White Night and we aren\u2019t (unintelligible word) what\u2019re we going to do, we gonna commit revolutionary suicide \u2014 we got a few more minutes to discuss that \u2014 or are we going to go out and uh, start a, a fucking war? Which ones did you write up, that you think uh\u2014 I\u2019m, I\u2019m I\u2019m\u2014 I\u2019m saying I\u2019m seeing cross<\/i>-eyed, so I\u2014 but I still got my mind<\/i> together. Which ones do you think should be trusted<\/i>, which elite<\/i> would you vote on, I\u2019d like all of you to vote on your paper with who should be trusted to go back to take care of some of these sonsabitches that have tried to do all this\u2014 How<\/i> many remember night and day? You ought to remember night and day what they\u2019ve done.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What\u2019ve they done? They tried to get Brian Bouquet in trouble for marrying a black woman, Tim Stoen and that bunch, (unintelligible word) all of them, all of them in it, they\u2019re all together. How many all know the enemies? What\u2019s the class enemies? How many know them? Who know them? You all know them?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> General assent<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The ones in the open. (Pause) Grace Stoen, Tim Stoen, Walter Jones, Garry Lambrev, all the Mertles, all the Olivers, the Olivers, Liz Forman, Mickey Touchette, and Suzanne Jones is back there behind the scenes, you can bet your ass, my daughter, Mike Cartmell\u2019s back there behind the scenes, too, because\u2014 the reason we know that \u2014 where\u2019s\u2014 I usually look over there and expect to find Christine, where in the hell is she?<\/p>\n

Low female voice:<\/b> (Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You oughtn\u2019t do that, Christine, what the fuck you move on me for tonight? I\u2014 I\u2014 I have to orientate myself and know where folk are (unintelligible word).<\/p>\n

Low female voice:<\/b> I\u2019m here.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s good. Oh, I know you\u2019re there, sweetheart, I love you. But she loves Mona, and so does Sandy, and I spent a lot of nights of guilt, and so does Ava and all this shit, and I\u2019m pissed<\/i> with them \u2018cause Suzanne wouldn\u2019t know to try to get in there and try to get Mona if she didn\u2019t know what they were up to, by trying to block them from getting her in the court<\/i>. And I still<\/i> want to know attorneys\u2014 and I\u2019m not that drunk\u2014 if there isn\u2019t some goddamn way, in spite<\/i> of hell, that we can\u2019t sneak her out\u2014 you know how, by other measures, using other vehicles, if you follow me. And what\u2019s the rerper\u2014 repercussions thereof? And I\u2019m still<\/i> not too drunk to remember tonight (pause), um, Mercy Perkins\u2019 daughter up in Oregon, has she been told to move? She might get the privilege to stand down here and see<\/i>\u2014\u00a0I, uh said\u2014 one sister told me today, said, two<\/i> days here was worth dying for. That was sweet. I don\u2019t know which one told me that. Two<\/i> days here. How many feel that way?<\/p>\n

Several voices of assent<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> How many feel like two days worth fi\u2014\u00a0was worth dying for?<\/p>\n

Several voices of assent<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I am seeing you back there, honey. May see two of you, but I see you. (Pause) I\u2019ll tell you the truth. I\u2019d like to give her a chance to be here\u2014 see the mind is going (voice winds down) on and on and on and on and on and on\u2014 but the question I just asked prior to that was, some solution<\/i> to that situation with Mona. It should never have gone\u2014 like I told them in the first place, should never have gone to court\u2014 that\u2019s what I told them in San Francisco. (Unintelligible word) should have followed my instruction, that should never have gone through the goddamn court<\/i>, you should just picked her up and to\u2014 taken<\/i> her. That\u2019d been the solution to that.<\/p>\n

Male voice in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Everybody has to do things just, legal and proper. And she wasn\u2019t alone. There were some others agreed with her too.<\/p>\n

Voices:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Fuck this. Fuck it. They never would have missed her. That system don\u2019t give a shit<\/i> about somebody that handicapped, and black, they don\u2019t give a shit<\/i> about them, we hadn\u2019t brought her to our atten\u2014 their, their attention, I knew<\/i> that from the beginning, shouldn\u2019t have brought her to their attention. Now we got her to everybody\u2019s attention<\/i>. I\u2019d like to know how to get her out<\/i> of everybody\u2019s attention.<\/p>\n

Female voice in crowd: <\/b>They told us we couldn\u2019t do that, Dad\u2014 (unintelligible) but they\u2019d have to have a lawyer and do it right\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I know<\/i>, but they didn\u2019t listen to me. They argued on it. I<\/i> didn\u2019t. I said from the beginning, you ought to try to bring her in here<\/i>, \u2018cause I brought somebody in here, I ain\u2019t<\/i> going to tell all my secrets, I ain\u2019t that drunk.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> All right.<\/i> What else we got to get finished? We got to find out, what the hell happened with the Russians<\/i>, with the Cubans<\/i> today, and we got to find out what happened with the governmental leader in charge<\/i> while [Guyana Prime Minister Forbes] Burnham\u2019s in Russia. And fuck<\/i> the attorney general, the son-of-a-bitch, they want to come here, they can get shot.<\/p>\n

General crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I can take care of him anyway.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Fuck all the USA. I hope<\/i> they come in here, goddamn \u2018em, we\u2019ll\u2014 we\u2019ll let the whole world know on the short wave\u2014 (Pause) That\u2019s interesting. We got any copy on that short wave at all? And as I said, I\u2019m drunk. Is there any copy on that short wave, at all<\/i>? Any copy? That\u2019d be nice if they bl\u2014 had some way to block us off from all copy<\/i> when the last time comes.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Background noise)<\/p>\n

Male voice in crowd:<\/b> We got the east coast.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You got the east coast. That\u2019s good. That\u2019s<\/i> good. That\u2019s something to consider<\/i>. We want to have all our antennae set in opposite way than they expect<\/i> us to go sometime too. If we can get another antenna, we got to get those goddamn radios in, and what else did I say we gotta get, we gotta get a P.A. system so we don\u2019t fu\u2014 hold on\u2014 you chaps have done a good job, and I love<\/i> you for holding this one P.A. system together, but this is silly-ass. Now let\u2019s see what we can buy tomorrow<\/i> in terms of a P.A. system. Without communications, you\u2019re dead<\/i>. So if you want to start any shit tonight, Father may be drunk and bleary-eyed, but he\u2019s o-o-o-o-on<\/i> the ball.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And my drunk\u2019s about over. Unfortunately. (Pause) Ain\u2019t that awful? How long did my drunk last? Fifteen minutes?<\/p>\n

Crowd: Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s eating on\u2014 it\u2019s eating on the little bit of food<\/i> that I put down there. The okra<\/i> and the water\u2019s mixing with it. What<\/i> a shame. What<\/i> a shame. Only I think that last part\u2019s still about to hit me, so what, uh\u2014 what I remember, I took another dose, so where\u2019s\u2014 (stmumbles over words) I\u2019ll take a little more of that food<\/i>. It\u2019s a goddamn shame. Why can\u2019t I get drunk tonight? \u2018Cause it\u2019s a White Night. Well, what if this wasn\u2019t a White Night? Someone slip me a drink when it isn\u2019t a White Night, will you, when it\u2019s a nice peaceful night, and everybody\u2014 nobody\u2019s\u2014 nobody\u2019s shacking up with nobody, nobody\u2019s raping any children, nobody\u2019s stealing from nobody, and everybody went to bed early, get<\/i> me drunk one night, so I can sleep. I<\/i> don\u2019t want no drunk. I just want to sleep<\/i>, for Christ\u2019s sakes. You can give me some sleeping<\/i> pills so I could sleep one<\/i> thorough night. One thorough night, and not wake up every minute and think you\u2019ve been to sleep, and you look at the goddamn clock and you\u2019ve been to sleep (draws out words) one mother fucking minute. It\u2019s terrible. Don\u2019t you agree with that?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Murmurs assent.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You better<\/i> agree with it. (Laughs) I\u2019m just teasing you. Don\u2019t give me that fudge. You all know I\u2019m too heavy anyway. Shit. (Pause) Now that fudge, what is that, that sh\u2014 What you\u2019d say over there, Renee [Gieg]?<\/p>\n

Renee:<\/b>\u2014 (unintelligible) sweet with alcohol.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Ah<\/i>, Renee, you see I\u2019m not so drunk I can\u2019t recognize your voice behind the back even though it\u2019s a low whisper. (Pause) I\u2019m proud your husband\u2019s made a swift change. That\u2019s one of the things that keep me going. Is he still behaving?<\/p>\n

Renee:<\/b> Yes, Dad, thanks to you.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s good.<\/p>\n

Renee:<\/b> (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Pause while eating) He\u2019s a fucking socialist, in other words.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/b>Laughter, low voices.<\/p>\n

Renee:<\/b>\u2014 (unintelligible) fucking\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, now that\u2019s\u2014 that\u2019s<\/i> even more safe. He\u2019s a non-fucking socialist. I\u2019m proud<\/i> of him. But if he\u2019s a fucking socialist, I\u2019d be glad. (Pause while eating) Shift<\/i> your ass from left to right.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s hitting me\u2014 (Laughs) (unintelligible aside with male voice)\u2014 a little of that\u2014 you got 4000\u2014 they better have that fish on there. I want my people to eat<\/i>, by God. They got that four thousand four hundred pounds of fish this time. When\u2019s that boat coming? I want to know when that boat\u2019s coming.<\/p>\n

Low crowd noise, low conversation away from mike<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> If I\u2014 you see some of these folks, you can\u2019t show I\u2019m eating, \u2018cause they think I don\u2019t eat. They think I live on air.<\/p>\n

Crowd: Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s the damn truth. I\u2019m in a prison. You gripe because you can\u2019t go here and there? (Pause) That\u2019s right. (Pause) Something I heard today, something about Ron Talley not trusting me to go someplace? That\u2019s not the truth. One of the fellows I counted the most for, some shit you said to Rob Gieg\u2014 I\u2019ll tell anything I know tonight.<\/p>\n

Crowd: Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Makes sounds of flying) Shift your ass backwards.<\/p>\n

Crowd: Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Whole bunch of shit, but I just let it pass over\u2014 What the hell\u2019d you say?<\/p>\n

Ron: <\/b>To Rob Gieg?<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now what\u2019d you say? Why don\u2019t you get your mouth off the\u2014 You\u2019re a street<\/i> man, and I could use you so much for socialism and I love you, what the fuck you do this shit for? You keep mouthing off.<\/p>\n

Ron: <\/b>I\u2014\u00a0I said I\u2019d\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Where Rob\u2014 Where\u2019s Rob at?<\/p>\n

Unintelligible answer from crowd<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> At the piggery. Wouldn\u2019t you know he\u2019s at the piggery.<\/p>\n

Unintelligible answer from crowd<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I know<\/i>, but call him and find out what it is, \u2018cause I don\u2019t want to ever<\/i> indict a man with shit like this \u2018cause I\u2019m just half-drunk and I don\u2019t want to m\u2014 say something that I don\u2019t know what I\u2019m talking about. He don\u2019t have to come back. Just ask him what the hell\u2014 hell it was. (Pause) (Chastizing) You got big mouth, Ron. I can\u2019t trust you fully until you get over your big mouth. When Jeff was asking you all those questions, didn\u2019t you know he was testing you, when you give the answers, didn\u2019t you think it? I\u2019m\u2014 I\u2019m testing you now, the ol\u2019 boy may be drunk, but be careful. (Pause) When you reported him, didn\u2019t you have (struggles for words) a half-assed fear that I would probably set him up to it?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Yes, I did.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Umm-hmm. But you didn\u2019t<\/i> think I\u2019d set up Rob, did you?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> No, I didn\u2019t.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, I did. (Pause) (Tones turns harsh) You underestimate<\/i> me, son, \u2018cause I gotta count on the best<\/i> from some of you. You\u2019re a street<\/i> man. Why can\u2019t you appreciate a man like me? You been through every hell. Can\u2019t you see the honesty and integrity and the strength and the courage and the complete loyalty<\/i>? Shit, you people in the streets and the jails and the gangs when loyalty was the best\u2014 can\u2019t you recognize me?<\/p>\n

Woman in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Yes, I\u2014 I don\u2019t think I\u2014 I\u2019m not<\/i> grateful enough. If I\u2014 If I were<\/i> grateful enough, I would never question anything, and I would\u2014 I\u2019d just go along and do more than I\u2019m doing now. I\u2019m not grateful enough.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> But man, yo\u2014 your options<\/i> are over. I\u2019m telling you this shit so you want the paper. Be sure to tell them on uh, WA6JV7 [short wave radio call letters], to read him the sh\u2014 paper. They\u2019re after you, friend, and you showed high character. That\u2019s why I\u2014 I\u2019m disappointed<\/i>, because I expected for the best out of you<\/i>, when you knew Chris\u2014 he said you didn\u2019t know he was in\u2014 there was any trouble with Chris Lewis. You must<\/i> have known there was trouble with Chris Lewis, when you didn\u2019t know what the trouble was, you didn\u2019t know what you were in to or something like that. Now I may have it slightly off, but you must<\/i> have known that there was trouble. It was your car<\/i> registered to you, and Chris was doing something to the cause and it was a shootout. (Pause) Fucking racist police. You must<\/i> have known. Maureen [Talley], Maureen, where\u2019s Maureen? He had to know.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Different voices in crowd, unintelligible.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I didn\u2019t know it was him\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Where is the relative, by God, yeah, where are they?<\/p>\n

Woman voice:<\/b> They\u2019re all in the kitchen\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Oh, shit. That\u2019s where the relatives are, and I know where one relative is. To my sadness<\/i>\u2014 I don\u2019t take any joy in it\u2014 she\u2019s in a goddamn box. A bright mind in a fucking<\/i> psychological box.<\/p>\n

Long pause, crowd noise.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Rob told me a whole bunch of shit, and I want to get this shit straight. Does his wife know? Rob\u2014 where\u2019s that pretty wife of Rob\u2019s?<\/p>\n

Unintelligible reply.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Huh?<\/p>\n

Crowd noise.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He must have shared some information. (Pause) Why\u2019d you do this, man? Why\u2019d you\u2014 you must<\/i> have known, you must<\/i> have known that night you were in lots, in lots of trouble. Now the goddamn shit\u2019s in so much trouble, you couldn\u2019t go back to the United States if you wanted<\/i> to. But he\u2014\u00a0but he said, he said<\/i>, in all fairness, you didn\u2019t talk like you wanted to go back to United States. But he said you said some goddamn cutting snide shit. You may some pretty cruel remarks.<\/p>\n

Male voice: <\/b>Dad, I\u2014 when he said that, I said I\u2014 I knew<\/i> that, that that was the case, and I knew<\/i> that, that uh, I could not<\/i> go back. At the time it happened\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s not the issue, that\u2019s not the issue. Hell, I\u2019d hope you know that<\/i>, but I want to prove it to you, you\u2019re such a sp\u2014 skeptic and cynic and paranoid. (Sighs) I mean, you<\/i> remember the night<\/i> when we had Chris, he was all shot up, and we had him inside the\u2014 \u2018cause he didn\u2019t follow instructions again, he got his ass<\/i>\u2014 he\u2019d do things like he\u2019s told<\/i>, if he\u2019d done things like he told, I would have lost a son.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> But he was uh, hung up there<\/i>, and he\u2019d been, I don\u2019t know, in a hell of a mess, and you went along and you weren\u2019t even in the church<\/i>, you were out there pushing things, you were taking<\/i>, you were not, or whatever, you were, you were on the, on the habit. I guess. You were out there doing something. Or trying to get off the habit, on methadone, weren\u2019t you. Yeah. Um, but I can\u2019t imagine a man with character like that\u2014 you covered his ass, you covered all of our asses, including his, because he wasn\u2019t following instructions. He\u2019d done what he was supposed to, he wouldn\u2019t have been out there. But he got\u2014 he was in your car, car licensed to you, and only Tim\u2014 the only way they ever found out was through Tim Stoen, that\u2019s why we gotta remember that prick, the only way he\u2019d ever know, Tim Stoen was in it, he\u2019s the only one back<\/i> there that knew, Mike Cartmell didn\u2019t know shit about it. Only one person knew about it is Tim Stoen. Now, I want to get him. (Pause) So what<\/i> is it, man, that you\u2014 something you said, that you was not trusted in town or some bunch of shit\u2014<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Uh, I\u2014\u00a0I thought that I\u2014 it just seems that things are falling into a pattern, it seems like I\u2019m trying to get out. Uh, Rob had asked me\u2014 I\u2014 In fact, I wrote this to you. Rob had asked me to go to the ridge [Matthews Ridge?] with him that time and then, um\u2014 (Pause) I was\u2014 I was going to go to Georgetown and didn\u2019t. I didn\u2019t know what happened there, but I felt everything was okay, but I\u2014 I thought it looked<\/i> like I was trying to, and uh, it just seemed<\/i> like the situation was coming down that way, and it\u2014\u00a0I felt that it looked<\/i> like I was trying to. And I just didn\u2019t know how to convey<\/i> that I\u2019m not<\/i> trying to. I thought it looked very much like I was trying<\/i> to, and some way just tried to find certain ways to get out, and, uh\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, that\u2019s a thought we must keep in mind for everybody, but I didn\u2019t\u2014 I hadn\u2019t had any concerns about that, uh, till you plant<\/i> them, you know, you know, by your\u2014 uh, now these medical people got something to explain to me, because, they said you was standing there with hypochondriac galore, and I want this straightened up now, \u2018cause I\u2014 I expect a lot out of you, as a white nigger.<\/a> And that means you can\u2019t redeem yourself, \u2018cause I\u2014 you know, I, uh, I don\u2019t hold<\/i> things. I get them out. Anything that wouldn\u2019t wipe, this fucker wouldn\u2019t wipe, they wouldn\u2019t wipe the, uh, snot off your nose if there was just one drop. Is anything that would wipe my glasses (tape distortion)<\/p>\n

Crowd: Murmurs. Pause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b>\u2014 hey, shit. I\u2019m sorry you people have to put up with this shit. I\u2019m sorry<\/i>. I didn\u2019t come over here to be a White Nights. Hold this mother. yeah, it\u2019s all right. I knew you\u2019d say that, someone\u2019d say it, but it\u2019s not what I<\/i> wanted. Anybody think I\u2019d put people through White Nights must<\/i> not know anything about Jim Jones. God damn it. Goddamn<\/i>, you don\u2019t know anything about me. I wouldn\u2019t do this. It isn\u2019t fair to pay\u2014 to play with people like this.<\/p>\n

Male voice: <\/b>You know, in answer to Dad\u2019s question about that, you have a preoccupation with your sideburns and you\u2019re worried\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I told<\/i> him about that. But there was some more<\/i> stuff, saying he was trying to get pills for pains or something. I want to find out about this. That shit come through me. I mean, I would slightly\u2014 you\u2019re right, Dianne, you must have drunk a lot, I\u2019m getting now vomitous. You sure must have drank a lot in your day, my daughter. Huh, shit. What an unpleasant<\/i> thing, for all the drinking to come down to this. Get me a pan.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd: <\/b>Give him the pee can.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Just in case. I usually don\u2019t vomit, I hold it pretty well, but it\u2014 it\u2019d fucking sick now. Don\u2019t let me look at it, and it may pass. Psychologically, never look at a vomitous basin, and often it\u2019ll pass. Ain\u2019t that the li\u2014 (Cries out) There ain\u2019t nothing good that doesn\u2019t have a ba-a-ad<\/i> ending.<\/p>\n

Crowd: Murmurs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Except socialism.<\/p>\n

Crowd calls agreement.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And I mean that from the depths of my heart. That has a good ending. Whatever, the grave, or wherever, it\u2019s a good<\/i> ending.<\/p>\n

Crowd applauds<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Because you know it\u2019s right. (Pause) Sweetie-pie, would you put that down\u2014 (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Male voice: <\/b>She\u2019s short.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> She\u2019s short, but you can get her up. (Low aside unintelligible) You talked about Tish\u2019s [Tish LeRoy] paperwork, having all that paperwork, and that looked to me like you\u2019re trying to appeal to him because\u2014 he thought so too\u2014 because he\u2019s pretty analytical. He\u2019s got a black wife, something you don\u2019t<\/i> have, son. You had a black wife, and he said you didn\u2019t want to get involved, nobody didn\u2019t want to care for nobody. That\u2019s dangerous. Or he made the observation you didn\u2019t, or something like that. And naturally appeal to him about Tish\u2019s paperwork, all the paperwork she required, be appealing to him because he has to do a lot of the Tish work. P\u2014 Tish work, yeah, paperwork. Um, said that SAT is no longer really existing<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Low male voice:<\/b> All they do is set up the pavilion.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> All they do is set up the pavilion. O-o-oh, man, don\u2019t make that mistake. Just the SAT that you know about isn\u2019t\u2014 I\u2019ll tell you mighty, mighty sure<\/i> that there\u2019s a, there\u2019s a\u2014 now, now<\/i> (emphatically) a high-powered weapon on this place all the time, ready<\/i>. It may not be through your official structure<\/i>, but don\u2019t, don\u2019t ever make that mistake, \u2018cause your dad loves you too much to put you in that kind of a mess. No-o-o no no no no. He\u2019ll (unintelligible word\u2014 sounds like “complain”) about not being able to go anywhere, he didn\u2019t understand why he couldn\u2019t go, even when the crisis is cool down, maybe he could go and he said that\u2014 that was what was said to him and to keep him qui\u2014 to keep\u2014 that was what was said to him to keep him quiet. That\u2019s a reflection on me.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Dad.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He didn\u2019t say that one.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Not that it was said to keep me quiet\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Wh\u2014 What did you say? What did you say? What did<\/i> you say to him? You got big<\/i> mouth, son. I gotta\u2014 Your father deserves to trust some<\/i> people. (Pause) I never was so proud<\/i> of you that night, \u2018cause you could\u2019ve brought the end<\/i> to the movement on that shit, if you\u2019d have sung that night, we\u2019d have been in trouble, \u2018cause I\u2019d\u2019ve gone to jail<\/i> for Chris, in spite<\/i> of him not following my instructions. And I can\u2019t help but think that you knew what that was all about, didn\u2019t he, Maureen? He must\u2019ve<\/i> known what it was all about.<\/p>\n

Maureen: <\/b>Um, I never told him, but I\u2014 he was suspicious<\/i>. He asked me several times.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What was the story I gave you? I may not have told you the full story.<\/p>\n

Maureen: <\/b>That, uh- That I was driving the car. I was doing something, I was driving the car.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No, disappointment, disappointment, I\u2014 Your father\u2019s memory\u2014<\/p>\n

Maureen: <\/b>He didn\u2019t\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (unintelligible) was pretty keen. You<\/i> were driving the\u2014 Well, now I thought that naturally\u2014 but still<\/i> that\u2019s character.<\/p>\n

Maureen: <\/b>He was\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He showed concern for his sister. But he knew it was fucking brush with the law, didn\u2019t he?<\/p>\n

Maureen: <\/b>Yes, and he knew Chris, Chris had been in an accident and, uh\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah, yeah.<\/p>\n

Maureen: <\/b>I\u2019m\u2014 I\u2019m sure he knew. He knew there were some things in the car.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I\u2014 I knew about it. I\u2014 (Rest of sentence overrun by jones)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Member of your family participated<\/i> but\u2014 so, well, anyway, (stumbles over words) I still say that\u2019s\u2014 to protect your family, that\u2019s, that\u2019s, that\u2019s a beginning of some law. Some people won\u2019t do that<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I\u2014 I thought it, it was more\u2014 I\u2014 I\u2019d never really<\/i> thought it was Maureen, I\u2014 I was just kind of\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Oh, Maureen was involved, Maureen was involved. Totally<\/i>. She was involved, totally<\/i>. She was committed totally<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I\u2014 I understood there were more, you know, like five people in the car, and I felt that if I could take the case rather than five of our people, it would be\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay, and that\u2019s, that\u2019s beautiful. But why in the hell can\u2019t you keep a lid<\/i> upon you? Man, I gotta be cynical about everybody<\/i>. I\u2019d be cynical about my mother<\/i>. (Pause) She\u2019s dead<\/i> out there, rest her blessed body. (Pause) Anybody deserved to rest, she did.<\/p>\n

Maureen: <\/b>I want to say to you<\/i>, Ron, uh, you don\u2019t, uh, you don\u2019t talk negative around me<\/i>, because I won\u2019t let you, and I\u2014 I\u2019m surprised you\u2014 you\u2019re saying shit like this. When you told me you weren\u2019t going to go to Georgetown, you said, well, just took they took the comedy act down, you weren\u2019t worried about it all\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b>\u2014 and that\u2019s the fucking truth. (Unintelligible) cut it out and I said, put it back in, when they\u2014 I remember they had uh\u2014 (Snaps fingers) [Richard] Janaro. I didn\u2019t agree with their goddamn shit. I\u2019m tired<\/i> of them dictating this, that and the other thing.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Uh-<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He talk negative to you, Marlene [Wheeler]? You must<\/i> have tried it on a few and got by<\/i> with it, son. Anybody talk negative to you<\/i>?<\/p>\n

Marlene:<\/b> He did mention something<\/i> about that to me, I didn\u2019t think too much of it at the time. He said something about, maybe he couldn\u2019t go into Georgetown and maybe because of his past record, and I said that would be reasonable<\/i> to consider, you know, considering his past.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It would in the CIA time, but I didn\u2019t\u2014 I didn\u2019t consider that.<\/p>\n

Another woman:<\/b> Your past record is one thing. You know, your past\u2014 you\u2019re the one that your past record. And for some reason you\u2019ve always acted like the\u2014 you have<\/i> maybe acted like Dad or somebody holds that over you, that there\u2019s some control over you because if you go anywhere, we\u2019ve got your past record to\u2014 against you. And I\u2014 I kinda get that feeling from you a lot of times.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And what\u2019s that, uh, sweetheart?<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b> That\u2014 Because of his past record, that he\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Shift, please.<\/p>\n

Woman:<\/b>\u2014 he can\u2019t go anywhere. Even in the States<\/i>, he used to say this, well, yeah, if I want to go out, you know, get away or go someplace, my past record can be used against me, the police will pick me up or whatever. He\u2019s always been real paranoid<\/i> about that. Just a lot of paranoia.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I always felt that (clears throuat) there was a lot of things I couldn\u2019t do because of my past record, and I been frustrated by that always, but I, I feel\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Umm-<\/p>\n

Ron: <\/b>\u2014 like here I have a new chance. I don\u2019t have<\/i> a record here. I\u2019m clean uh, for\u2014 (pause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (throws up)<\/p>\n

Unidentified male:<\/b> Go on, keep on talking, keep on talking.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Go on, shit, hell, there ain\u2019t nothing for me. Just a little vomit.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Right. I felt there was a lot of things I couldn\u2019t\u2014 I couldn\u2019t do, that I couldn\u2019t\u2014 couldn\u2019t get out and do some jobs that I might have been able to do if I didn\u2019t have a record, if I was a clean\u2014 like a clean citizen in the States. There was a lot of things I\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones and Ron talk over each other<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b>\u2014 folks, my body don\u2019t need all this shit, it really don\u2019t need all this shit. I\u2019m telling you. (Name unintelligible), let\u2019s get together so I don\u2019t have to think through everything. I\u2019m<\/i> not mad about it, because I\u2019m really\u2014 uh, really not mad about it, but I\u2019m telling you, you people ought to think when you\u2019re doing some of this shit so I don\u2019t have to think through everything. That\u2019s what\u2019s getting to me.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> (Murmurs) Yes, Dad.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Dad\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I oughta known, we should have put food<\/i> with th\u2014 with this fucking amount of liquor<\/i>. (Sighs.) Don\u2019t get drunk, honey, it ain\u2019t<\/i> worth it. I knew\u2014 there ain\u2019t nothing good in this universe, there ain\u2019t nothing good but socialism.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Right. (Applause.)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I gotta piss anyway. Just help me out here, I gotta piss so I can get back down to it.<\/p>\n

Unidentified male: <\/b>Don\u2019t stop talking, keep talking.<\/p>\n

Ron: <\/b>\u2014 without\u2014 what I was saying\u2014 I\u2014 I felt that uh, there was a lot of things I couldn\u2019t do because of my past record, and I\u2014 it didn\u2019t seem like I could ever get it cleared up<\/i>. \u2018Cause I was\u2014 I couldn\u2019t get it sealed, and\u2014 and it just seemed like\u2014 and there was a lot of jobs<\/i> I couldn\u2019t do, I couldn\u2019t do for the church, I always had just kind of just be sort of out<\/i> of some things, or out of a lot<\/i> of things that\u2014 I felt because of that. And I, I didn\u2019t feel it was Dad\u2019s<\/i> fault that I had the record, I, I had the record before I ever<\/i> met Dad. That was the only time I didn\u2019t<\/i> get any record, was when I met Dad. And in fact<\/i> the only time I got off all the probation, got everything cleared up for years, but I\u2014 (Clears throat) it was just a problem that I felt that there was so much I couldn\u2019t do<\/i> because I had that damn record hanging over there. (Emphatic) I couldn\u2019t get rid of it. So, I just\u2014 I don\u2019t know. I, I just had a problem with that.<\/p>\n

Unidentified male: <\/b>Your oth\u2014 Your other sister had her, had her hand up in regards to you talking negative.<\/p>\n

Unidentified young woman:<\/b> I was going to say, um, when he didn\u2019t get to go to Georgetown, I, you know, he had been packed up<\/i> and everything, and I asked him, um, I thought you were going to Georgetown<\/i>, and he says, no, I didn\u2019t get it\u2014 I\u2019m not going, he says, uh, they canceled the show, they said it\u2014 it wouldn\u2019t be, uh, you know, what they\u2019d want to see there or something. He says, I, I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s really<\/i> what it is, but, uh, he says, I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s really the case but that\u2019s, you know, I\u2019m not going, and that\u2019s all I know. Something like that. So it was kind of like a suspicious<\/i> thing like this\u2014 they weren\u2019t going to send him for some reason, you know. And also, Ron, I\u2019d like to say um, I think, you know, like you\u2019re saying, you didn\u2019t get to do a lot of things that you wanted to do for the church, but I think one of your problems is, you want to be in the limelight<\/i> of doing something big and fantastic, and you don\u2019t have to be<\/i> that way. You know, he has this big ego thing, that you want to do something<\/i>, you know, and right now but, you know, you talking negative and sh\u2014 you\u2019ve got a, a position on SAT where, you know, people look to you or whatever. You\u2014 you\u2019re in a leadership position yourself now<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Jonathan:<\/b> (Voice starts away from mike) One of the times that you, uh, went away and came back and Father lovingly put you in one of the most trusted<\/i> positions in this Temple, uh, and that was driving Father\u2019s bus. You remember that<\/i>? (Pause) (Slower) Do you remember driving Father\u2019s bus, bus 7? I don\u2019t understand how you can feel<\/i> that uh, this way and then still<\/i> talk negative when he showed you love<\/i> and trust<\/i>, at that time and many other times after that, when we came after you. Remember? (Pause) I think you ought to think about that while you\u2019re saying these things.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I missed some of that, Jonathan, what uh\u2014 what did you say, Jonathan?<\/p>\n

Jonathan:<\/b> I was reminding him of one of the times\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b>\u2014 and in the meantime, we do have, uh, we do have one pregnant mother that could<\/i> be, you know, Cathy, and I want to take care of her, so let me see who should go out. Doctor, you should go out and rest. Marceline, you<\/i> should rest. Uh, Ava should rest, Sandy\u2014 you ought to get to rest now, just in case\u2014 uh, we\u2019ll manage this White Night somehow, and uh, Sharon? That\u2019s it, that\u2019s it. Dr. Schacht, you\u2014 \u2018cause you been\u2014 we had last night that miracle, miracle (tape trails off, unintelligible), okay? Lois, Lois. You guys get to rest. Put them to rest. What\u2019s the matter? Pointing to somebody? The pregnant lady, the woman, the mother, the expectant mother (unintelligible) think for themselves, wouldn\u2019t they?<\/p>\n

Unidentified male: <\/b>Yes, Dad. Thank you.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay. Now we don\u2019t want no trouble, we don\u2019t want no trouble with these goddamn White Nights, because we\u2019ll, we\u2019re prepared for life<\/i> and we\u2019re prepared for death<\/i>. If you\u2019ve got anything that\u2019s freely socialistic in you, you can take<\/i> it or leave<\/i> it.<\/p>\n

Crowd: Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You can pick it up, you can create life\u2014\u00a0well, Mary<\/i>, you\u2019ve been up, Mary Walker, a long while and, uh, if you feel<\/i> it, now, you can go. Anybody else here, we got, uh\u2014 Mom Dean\u2019s been up, who else? Who is behind there? Who\u2014<\/p>\n

Crowd: Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Huh?<\/p>\n

Woman in crowd, voice too soft.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well Mom, I want you to take care of yourself, you\u2019re\u2014 shoot, behind, who\u2019s behind in there? Okay. Anybody these 90-year-olds\u2014<\/p>\n

End of side 1<\/p>\n

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Side 2<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2014 here\u2019s why, by God, I\u2019d talk to him about cattle and we didn\u2019t get\u2014 he went\u2014 he got his ass on that fucking boat to go look into the cattle, and Sylvester [Fair]\u2014 (stumbles over words) this is amazing, you\u2019re beautiful, you\u2019re beautiful. I love you. You\u2019re beautiful. No, no instructions from me, I just had to know about the cattle. He get his ass on the boat<\/i>, and here he is way up there, and he\u2019d had a lot of help, probably, he rode that fucking boat, went through the town and found out about the cattle. I salute you, Sylvester, go home and take a\u2014 go home and get a nap.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The morning will come.<\/p>\n

Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Anybody else that feels some kind of\u2014 what\u2019d you say, Amanda [Fair]?<\/p>\n

Voice too soft.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah, he does look good with his teeth. Got his teeth. That\u2019s marvelous. (Pause.) He\u2019s a beautiful man.<\/p>\n

Voices too soft.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay, okay. You know, I\u2019ll leave it up to Don. If he feels okay to go on a while, he can, um\u2014<\/p>\n

Voice too soft.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No, don\u2019t apologize, Diane. That\u2019s good, to have guilt, but you didn\u2019t cause no sickness. I don\u2019t let nothing plant in me, you don\u2019t psychologically put nothing in me. Nothing\u2014 so don\u2019t feel bad about\u2014 Nobody<\/i> can psychologically get me to feel a damn thing. So you would never never never<\/i> never, nobody suggest for me to get sick, I would just\u2014<\/p>\n

Voice too soft.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Who? Respiratory inhalation, yeah, okay, he should rest too. They been up all night with the last pregnancy.<\/p>\n

Voice too soft.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay, let\u2019s get it done once and for all so we don\u2019t go all, all night and talk about it, huh? I thought to ask the question, so now I\u2014 Okay<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Unidentified woman:<\/b> I just want to comment um, on Ron.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019ll tell you, don\u2019t get drunk, it ain\u2019t worth\u2014\u00a0unless the last<\/i> one, that last drunk, \u2018cause you won\u2019t get up from that one, but\u2014<\/p>\n

Unidentified woman:<\/b> Dad?<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It ain\u2019t worth it sobering up, it ain\u2019t worth it.<\/p>\n

Unidentified woman:<\/b> But I feel in his position<\/i> that\u2014 he\u2019s in the nurse\u2019s office, once, twice or three times almost<\/i> every day. He spends most of his day in the nurse\u2019s<\/i> office, and he has had\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Still?<\/p>\n

Unidentified woman:<\/b> Yes. He has trouble, you know, he\u2019ll get a cold and then we give him, like, antibiotics, and he has an allergic reaction to the antibiotics.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well in security, I asked him why in the hell he\u2019s worried about losing a little hair. I\u2019d be glad if I could<\/i> lose some hair, man. I got a\u2014 what the hell\u2019s going to happen when I can no longer even masquerade as a sexual image. I can always fuck<\/i>, but that isn\u2019t enough<\/i>. What\u2019s going to happen? You ain\u2019t got no problem. What the hell you<\/i> been fucking lately for the cause?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Uh\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I wish to hell some of you men would get the consciousness that I could trust you to do<\/i> so, and women too. (More emphatic) And women too<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Crowd: Cheers, applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I coulda had some help<\/i>, and been mighty\u2014 mighty pleased<\/i>, and that shows sure I didn\u2019t want nothing from Grace Stoen when the very goddamn day I could get out of her, I tried to transfer her to Tim Carter. Mmm-hmm, mmm-hmm, mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/b> Right!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And she was the mother of my child. And I knew the risk, mother of my child, getting into something, and maybe I\u2019d lose my child. Nooo, I ain\u2019t losing my child. I ain\u2019t losing my child. That\u2019s one thing I won\u2019t<\/i> do. I made every<\/i> sacrifice in the goddamn world, but they ain\u2019t taking my child. If they take\u2014 they come for my child, they take me, and then\u2014 that\u2019s all I can say. If you want to go with me, fine, but that\u2019s one sacrifice I ain\u2019t making.<\/p>\n

Claps and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And I can tell you<\/i>\u2014 And I can tell you, drunk or sober, I feel the same way about Dana [Truss]. Nobody gonna take her. No goddamn prostitute, no goddamn dope pusher <\/i>is going to walk away with that little girl. Never<\/i>. (Stutters slightly in searching thoughts) Most people not fortunate enough to have something good to die for, and that\u2019s\u2014 makes me feel real<\/i> good, that I got something good to die for, so nobody\u2014 you can tell little Dana wherever she\u2019s at, nobody<\/i> going to walk away and take her, anywhere, (low, emphatic) nowhere<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Claps and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay, Do\u2014 You get that thing and make me feel good, you make me feel good, you make me feel good if I could get a communication line open with you so I could feel that trust<\/i> and bond that I ought to feel.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Dad, I\u2019m just\u2014\u00a0I been too worried about myself and since you spoke to me, I, I was on a\u2014 some kind of antibiotic, but I\u2019m not\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Shit.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b>\u2014 going for any treatments or any of that baloney anymore.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What antibiotic? For what? That depends\u2014<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I had a\u2014 some kind of chest congestion. I was saying, I would finish that up, \u2018cause it was started.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> All right.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b>\u2014 and then, I haven\u2019t gone in for any treatment, and I\u2019ve, I\u2014 I\u2019m not, I\u2019m just not going to do it, take up the nursing staff\u2019s time, and all that. I know it was selfish, and\u2014<\/p>\n

Ron and Jones talk over each other<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Can you analyze why? That\u2019s what I\u2019m interested in. I\u2019m not interested in what one does in the past. We can forgive the past. All socialists are redemptive. If they\u2019re not, they\u2019re not good socialists. We certainly want to be\u2014 look<\/i> at the past, want to keep profiles, know all of our weaknesses where the enemy can reach us, where the CIA could get to<\/i> us, you and\u2014 (Pause) Wake up that new sister back there in Accounting, she\u2019s about to go to sleep on her seat. (Pause) Okay. Why<\/i> were you in there for all these pills and so forth?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I think for one thing that I\u2019m used to substituting drugs for pain<\/i>, and uh, I know in the States, that it\u2014 unless I was doing something that really had my mi\u2014 mind occupied, at the slightest pain, I would take something. I would get something. Uh, that\u2019s been a pattern.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Have you got any of this pain here? \u2018Cause you\u2019re one that thought the White Nights weren\u2019t real.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> No, I\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You haven\u2019t let the pain get to<\/i> you, huh?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Well, I\u2014 yeah, I did, when I went\u2014 went in there, and I, I got medication before, yes.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No, I\u2019m talking about if you let any of this pain get to you. We\u2019re setting here tonight, we don\u2019t know whether we\u2019re going to\u2014 how many tomorrows we got. (Pause) Has this got to you?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Yes, it has. It has. (Pause) I, I believe it\u2019s very serious.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s got<\/i> to, man, it\u2019s got to. It\u2019s very very serious. They all were. Would to goodness that no\u2014 none of them had<\/i> been. I might think that life was fraught with a little<\/i> less hazards, when you see these many hazards, it don\u2019t give you a happy<\/i> feeling about projection. But the Cubans, as I said, took it for so many years, so why in the hell can\u2019t we? We can win it. If we don\u2019t win it, we win, because we were right.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Right. Thank you, Dad.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Anybody else got anything to say to him? I feel like I\u2019ll vomit if I talk to, a little<\/i> bit. Is there anything to settle this stomach? Now I don\u2019t give a shit about the pain, I just think I ought to settle it, so\u2014 so I don\u2019t have any uh, take up more time.<\/p>\n

Crowd: Murmurs.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> I think\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I insist<\/i> on those medical people going, I do<\/i>, because I insist<\/i> on that, uh, Cathy going. I insist<\/i>. You got\u2014 we gotta take care of you. You<\/i> got enough tonight to think on. That\u2019s very brave of you to want to continue, but I want you\u2014 I want you to do<\/i> it. I really want you to do it.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> I think you create your pain and your symptoms so you can get<\/i> the drugs, not so you can escape the pain, but so you can escape reality, so you don\u2019t have to do anything about it.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Put SAT control\u2014 no problem here, but I want to think about SAT control, so, uh, security. (Pause) Okay, go ahead.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> Oh. (Clears throat) One other thing\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s an awful way to live. Nobody stepped out of there that I have any life or faith in. It\u2019s an awful way to live that the moment somebody steps out of the pavilion, you\u2019re going to think about putting security around the place, so they can\u2014 there can be no shit<\/i> started. Can you imagine the prison I\u2019m living in when you feel like you got troubles? (Pause) Can you imagine that? That\u2019s not pleasant. (Pause) You go to Georgetown, you can think about going to Georgetown some time ago and somewhere. I never think about going anywhere<\/i>, but staying here and keeping this place safe<\/i>. (Pause) I wouldn\u2019t mind that<\/i>, if I didn\u2019t have to worry about everything. Gotta worry about everything<\/i>. Even, uh, when I take something to lower my blood pressure. You people gotta think<\/i> more.<\/p>\n

Low voice.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Someone, uh\u2014 (Sounding tired) relieve Sharon, who\u2019s staying with the new mothers. (Pause, talks off mike) Sweet kid. Try to\u2014 Go rest, Marceline. You<\/i> gotta be in there. You and me, we\u2019ve been up all night, thank you.<\/p>\n

Low voice.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Three burps) It\u2019s just gas, I think. What\u2014 what\u2014 what is it, Don, if it were up to Don, I told something to Don, pictures are not like you\u2014 you can be kind of sleepy<\/i> and take pictures<\/i>, but you sure<\/i> can\u2019t\u2014 I don\u2019t want nobody sleepy helping one of my mothers have babies. (Burp) We really<\/i> gotta do better than this, folks, though, you gotta, we gotta do better than this, you gotta think through every situation. (Pause) Well, ask some questions, I\u2019m sick. My headache\u2019s back, plus a fucking stomach\u2014<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> Well, one other thing\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What\u2019d you say, Doc? What\u2019d you say, uh, chemist?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/b> (Unintelligible)\u2014 help your stomach.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, get me<\/i> one, so I can keep on going on here. It\u2019s a hell<\/i> of a sick.<\/p>\n

Crowd noise<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Don\u2019t drink<\/i>. I can tell you, don\u2019t drink. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> Uh, the other thing uh, Dad mentioned was you, you, saying to Rob, you didn\u2019t want to care about anybody or\u2014 I\u2019m sure I\u2019ve contributed to that, some, with talk about\u2014 just not getting into relationship, \u2018cause you know, people just don\u2019t seem to care.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I missed that, sweetie.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> He asked\u2014 asked you to uh\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He\u2014 he didn\u2019t get into relationship, he didn\u2019t get into relationship with\u2014<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> I\u2019m sorry Dad. I just said, I\u2019ve talked to him about, um, not not, I don\u2019t know how Rob said not caring about anybody, but I think he\u2019s saying getting into a relationship\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Why don\u2019t you go on and go to bed like I told you to?<\/p>\n

Low voice.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Why don\u2019t you go to bed? You are<\/i> needed in there. You\u2019re one of the best nurses ever come down the clock. Now go to bed <\/i>like I told you.<\/p>\n

Low voice.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Parental) Don\u2019t bother to argue with me, just go!<\/p>\n

Low voice<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No, they have to keep that for my blood pressure, \u2018cause my damn headache\u2019s back, plus<\/i> all this other shit. You need this right now? I can deliver that to you later.<\/p>\n

Low voice.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The cup is\u2014 Johnny [Jones] gave it to me. My son Johnny (fading speech, then stronger) Okay, okay, okay, okay, that\u2019s true. Why don\u2019t you get in love with some black woman or a black child, man? You can\u2019t\u2014 Everybody in this movement to be trusted ought to have somebody<\/i>, and preferably somebody black<\/i>, some baby they\u2019ve adopted, or\u2014 that\u2019s preferable, that order. In that order. Or some black companion. Because companionship<\/i> don\u2019t mean too much, being that we see somebody\u2014 the minute they go into Georgetown, they forget who their damn companion is.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Dad, I\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now listen to this, children, you\u2019ll get a lesson, you won\u2019t get hurt<\/i> when you grow up.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I didn\u2019t want to get into a relationship, \u2018cause I, I never handle them right, emotionally, emotionally I, I don\u2019t deal with it right, and I\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, that\u2019s<\/i> a good point.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I, I just\u2014\u00a0and\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Can\u2019t you love a child?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The little boys that follow me around till sometimes I feel like I\u2019m c-r-o-w-d-e-d (spelled out). Can\u2019t do business<\/i>, I can\u2019t handle any of this, it\u2019s just, it\u2019s just, it\u2019s just this terrible<\/i> claustrophobic feeling that you, that I, I can\u2019t meet all their needs<\/i>. Why don\u2019t you notice? Why don\u2019t you notice<\/i> some of them?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I, I\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> One of my, the one a sweet sweet child, R-i-c-a-r-d-o. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Yes. I had talked to Diane about that, just last week, because I\u2014 I mean, I need<\/i> to be close to somebody, my\u2014 my sisters and stuff, I just don\u2019t feel like\u2014 we don\u2019t get that close, we, you know, we\u2019re friends<\/i> and everything, but it\u2019s not a, like I have a child\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I mentioned boys only because the ones that are, you know, particular hanging about me, and I love them, happen to be boys<\/i>. There\u2019s another lovely little girl that I\u2014 lovely<\/i> little girl\u2014 I hope she\u2019s getting all the attention, she, she shows such concern for children, Tammi and people like that, I hope that we\u2019re showing a lot for love for these children, all these children will have somebody assigned, and there ought to be special concern being given\u2014 Where in the hell? Port Kaituma must be in Siberia. Why in the hell ain\u2019t they back<\/i> by now?<\/p>\n

Low voice.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> When did they leave? When did they leave<\/i>?<\/p>\n

Low voice.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We can do nothing<\/i> until we hear from that. That\u2019s why we\u2019re held<\/i> here.<\/p>\n

Low voice.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Mother fuckers. We ought to\u2014 we ought to want to get back and get some of them for one<\/i> White Night, for just one<\/i> White Night, they ought to all be gotten.<\/p>\n

Applause and cheers. Low voice. Mike turned off for indeterminate time.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Was somebody asked a question? Would somebody moderate this thing? I don\u2019t want to heave<\/i> all over every place.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> I remember one afternoon we were walking on duty, Ron had mentioned that he would<\/i> like to have, you know, he\u2014 he\u2019d like to have a child or something, you know, take a child (tape distortion) preferably he\u2019d like to have a little girl<\/i> because, uh, a lot of people, you know, look over the little girls, and he said he\u2019d like to take\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, that\u2019s sweet thought. They do<\/i>, they do<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> He also\u2014 He also\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Anita [Kelley] said you did well with children back in the States<\/i>. Why aren\u2019t you interested in them here?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I\u2014 Somehow I, I stop<\/i> and see them all the time on patrol but I, I don\u2019t feel like I can get enough time to really give<\/i> them something. I, I don\u2019t want to shortchange\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Man<\/i>, anything you give them regularly is something.<\/p>\n

Male voice in crowd:<\/b> You\u2014 you take enough time to, to talk about a whole bunch of bullshit, to, to gossip<\/i> and so forth, so if you can take enough time to gossip, you can take enough time with a child. I mean, you know, that\u2019s plain and simple.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Shift, please.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> He also mentioned the fact how big a fool<\/i>, uh, Oli\u2014 Bruce Oliver, uh, Bruce was, for fucking, you know, messing over Shanda [Oliver] the way he did because he feel as if Shanda was a beautiful young lady, and uh, anybody that had a young lady like her, you know\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah. He\u2019s real stupid, because that she is, that\u2019s real stupid. (Pause) Real<\/i> stupid. Take a socialist, uh, communist psychiatrist to figure out some of this shit. But the communists don\u2019t get mentally ill so they don\u2019t have any psychiatrists. (Pause) That\u2019s the truth. China, it\u2019s an unknown profession. They just don\u2019t have any. Domestically, then, people act out because they feel they\u2014 they\u2019re better<\/i> than others, and narcistically allow<\/i> themselves to act out. Even some Western<\/i> psychiatrists have said there is no<\/i> such thing as mental illness<\/i>. It\u2019s all just manipulation. (Pause) Okay, okay, okay, I\u2019ve said all I had in mind (unintelligible\u2014 sounds like “this is not a”) disciplinary matter, but I, I\u2019ve got to get more out<\/i> of you than I am getting<\/i>, for the position you\u2019re in<\/i> of responsibility.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I, I\u2019ll show you more, Dad, and quit being into myself, and, and trying to prove things. I\u2019ll just get down and work and be humble. I, I\u2019m not humble enough. That\u2019s one thing is, I might wake every morning and think I\u2019m going to be humble that day, and by the evening, I talk my ass into being arrogant. And I\u2019m going to keep humble around here.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You have a high degree of a homosexual feeling?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> (Pause) Yes, I do, I\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The reason I ask that, Noah (?), is sex is behind everything but uh, that easily\u2014 Narcissism is of course homosexuality personified\u2014<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b>\u2014 um, personified The homosexual feelings are there. Males have narcissism because they think that society puts them on a higher pedestal, but when it\u2019s personified<\/i>, it\u2019s a high degree of nar\u2014 narcissism. Um, I mean, personified to the extent that you\u2019re, you\u2019re, you\u2019re having trouble with humility. (Pause) Maybe you ought to get a homosexual relationship. (Unintelligible sentence about “improve” or “a prude”). Might get you to know more<\/i> about yourself. But as you say, relationships can divert one. But what you gotta do<\/i> is to be able to do like your Father<\/i>, get in one, and not let it divert<\/i> you.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Yes, Dad.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Then, and then alone, you know that you have passed the test. You have theorized<\/i> about it, but you gotta get in it and pass<\/i> it. (Pause) I hope all of you heard that.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I understand, Dad. I, I just\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s another thing to pass on the test. It\u2019s one thing to theorize<\/i> all about this shit, but be able to get in it, handle it, handle a beautiful woman and come out, is not let that beautiful woman captivate you.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You<\/i> keep control of the situation. Let communism<\/i> keep the control. I don\u2019t know whether it\u2019s not properly put\u2014 let communism<\/i> direct you and keep control of the situation.<\/p>\n

Low voices off mike.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> This make you sleepy for the nausea.<\/p>\n

Low woman voice: <\/b>I don\u2019t think\u2014 I don\u2019t think it will. I\u2014 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now as I recall, it did.<\/p>\n

Woman voice: <\/b>(Unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You\u2019re pretty good, you\u2019re pretty good medic, medic\u2014 (unintelligible) I- I\u2019m whole enough. It makes you sleepy, but I, I don\u2019t need to be asleep or not. I don\u2019t need to, not yet. \u2018Cause who knows what the shit this\u2014 going to drag in from this telephone call from Port Kaituma. (Pause) Well, I have it ready, setting here and I can take it. I don\u2019t want to waste it unless I have to.<\/p>\n

Low voices.<\/p>\n

Male voice: <\/b>One thing I want to say to you, Ron, that perhaps<\/i> one of the reasons, um\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Anybody help this young woman. Seems like she a long time holding this goddamn thing.<\/p>\n

Male voice: <\/b>Perhaps one of the reasons you\u2019re so wrapped up in, in yourself, I know a lot<\/i> of the people I know, including myself, who were very much involved with drugs<\/i>, they get<\/i> very much wrapped up in themselves. They, you know, they\u2019re always trying to make themselves feel good, and\u2014 and you get so<\/i> wrapped up in yourself that you don\u2019t have time<\/i> for anybody else, and you know, maybe that\u2019s just part of your past. I know it\u2019s part of my\u2014 my thing I\u2019m<\/i> trying to overcome.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Don\u2019t stretch your shirts, kids, with your arms under them. Please don\u2019t do it. Just tears them up. I\u2019m having such a hell of a time getting us all we need. Oh, excuse me, uh, (unintelligible name). Yeah, we get wrapped up in ourselves. We\u2019d have to, to take pain pills. Hope all of you are listening, that line up in the goddamn drug store. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Male voice: <\/b>And I just want to say, that I agree, I think you\u2019ve very<\/i> preoccupied with yourself. You really are. You\u2019re worried about your hair falling out and, uh, it\u2019s bullshit.<\/p>\n

Low voices.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> I just wanted to say, the medical staff just uh, should be reminded, this guy is a con artist. I mean, he had been a real good con artist in the States, and he\u2019s been to doctors and conned people out of drugs for years, so, you have to really check close when he comes with a complaint. I mean, super<\/i> close, because this guy knows how to do it, you know, he\u2019s done it for years. I could say, he creates the pain so he can get the drugs and escape the reality.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Uh, I felt<\/i> that I\u2014 I honestly felt I could have manipulated a lot more, just because I do know how to do that, but I\u2014 it doesn\u2019t\u2014 it isn\u2019t the same here. I, I just want to say for anybody else<\/i> that might think, think that, it isn\u2019t the same<\/i> here. I, I got very bored with it. It was a boring tra\u2014 It wasn\u2019t, uh, it wasn\u2019t the same. You don\u2019t need to escape like, like, over there. It\u2019s not the same thing. I got bored with it, and I, I just want to cut it loose. I could have got more and I just didn\u2019t bother it, because it\u2014 it\u2019s not the same.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> I think it\u2019s more escaping yourself. I don\u2019t think you want to change as much as you need to.<\/p>\n

Another male in crowd:<\/b> Have you been doing it anyway? Have you been manipulating (unintelligible)?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> What do you mean? Since those incidents?<\/p>\n

Male in crowd: <\/b>Since you\u2019ve been here.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Yeah, I, I\u2019d say I, I\u2019d manipulated to some extent. I had some, I, I made it sound worse<\/i> than it was, but, getting some pain medication isn\u2019t the same here, though, it\u2019s, it\u2019s a different kind of place. I mean I\u2014 I tried it out and I didn\u2019t like it. And since that time, I\u2014 that\u2019s it. I\u2019m not trying to get anything else for pain because it just doesn\u2019t fit in here.<\/p>\n

Male in crowd: <\/b>So what are you going to do now?<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I\u2014 When I\u2019d gotten this pain medication, I felt like I could have got more by manipulating, maybe.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b>\u2014 and I, I didn\u2019t do it\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well you, wait a minute, don\u2019t overestimate your under\u2014 your manipulating because you been being reported for some days.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Uh, it isn\u2019t the same here, though, because it\u2019s a different kind of society set-up. It\u2019s not good<\/i> to check out of this society here. It\u2019s nice<\/i> here. And when you, when you, if you take some kind of drug, you\u2019re kinda checking out and it\u2019s just not the same.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Unintelligible name)<\/p>\n

Woman talks too low in crowd.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Okay, go ahead. Don\u2019t stop for this. What\u2019s a sick stomach? There are babies starving. There ain\u2019t no sick stomach like a starving baby\u2019s stomach. (Pause) See, I\u2014 Notice how I think. No matter how much discomfort there is. No matter how much discomfort is, I can imagine, what<\/i> would it be to be a baby starving to death? Hmm? You see how much you notice your pain then. (Pause) Do I take any water with them? (Pause) I\u2019m insatiably<\/i> thirsty.<\/p>\n

Low voices<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Your problem out there tonight ain\u2019t that<\/i> bad, honey. So wake up, and look in there. Your mother\u2019s not\u2014 your mother\u2019s not dying of starvation in front of your eyes, or your baby\u2019s not dying in your lap.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We got six months provisions of food coming in, when that boat lands here in the next couple of days, and we got so\u2014 a hell of a lot of equipment, military equipment, you can keep a whole lot of folk off this hill for some time. And that\u2019s more guarantee of life than you ever had back in the States. You didn\u2019t have no guarantee at all.<\/p>\n

Cheers and applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You didn\u2019t know when that son-of-a-bitching white police was going to do something to you, you didn\u2019t know what night they going to stop you, or what day they going to stop you on the street. You didn\u2019t know when they going to take your children or somebody that was dear to you, or start some shit or burn down your house or mug you or rape you. You didn\u2019t know anything. All it takes is somebody throw your ass in jail, their testimony, one whitey against you, and that\u2019s it. I don\u2019t care who you are. (Pause) Black doctor\u2014 black doctor, Mount Zion Hospital, some white bitch accused him of raping her\u2014 hear what I\u2019m saying? Now wake up!\u2014 Some black doctor, Mount Zion, white bitch accused him of raping her, and the bitch was 35 years old and he\u2014 but they charged him with rape, raping hi\u2014 raping her in the hospital bed. Ain\u2019t that the shits? (Pause) Anytime a black man has to rape a woman 35 years old (stumbles for words), anybody know that\u2019s<\/i> a lie.<\/p>\n

Low voices. Young woman talks too low.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> In the hospital bed. That\u2019s what you face any walking day you live in that fucking country. You can say, but it didn\u2019t happen to me, but uh, finally<\/i>, your odds wi\u2014 win out, you sure couldn\u2019t have counted on several months ahead, the food and protection and guns between you and your enemy.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/b>(Scattered) Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> One thing, you folk who went to town, you made your Father feel good, because he has to look at cynical cynicism all the way. But you ga\u2014 you guys went to town and come back with the best<\/i> record of any\u2014 and I\u2019ve sent twelve<\/i> in that didn\u2019t do as well as eighty. And I\u2014 and it was night, no, no daylight\u2014 I mean, no lights, no water, no ship. No, no way to shit, no way to see, and uh, uh, that made me feel better about the potentials of human beings. But I still, when everybody\u2014 six people walked out of here tonight, even though they were trusted medical personnel, you saw the guns start their row, their rounds, didn\u2019t you? Huh?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Calls out) Ain\u2019t that a hell of a way to live?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You don\u2019t have to worry about that, but I do<\/i>, \u2018cause I love you, I don\u2019t want nobody to start no shit from you\u2014\u00a0no shit for you, nor\u2014 nor take no pain, that is not necessary. And this pain tonight\u2014 Goddamn<\/i>, what\u2019s holding them people up in Port Kaituma? (Pause) Anyway, you can make a free call, some way to find out if Paula Adams, and say she left so many min\u2014 minutes more on\u2014 on the band, is the band totally dead. (Pause) Deader than a doornail, that\u2019s lovely. Yes, that\u2019s the way it is.<\/p>\n

Low voices.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Drinking coffee, honey, don\u2019t worry. Anything I got, you<\/i> can have. That\u2019s what I\u2014\u00a0That\u2019s another thing. Everything you do, everything you say, the way you look, the way you move, where you walk, whether you smile just right, everything\u2019s<\/i> under a microscope. You people haven\u2019t got no problem. You ain\u2019t got no problem. I\u2019m telling you, I\u2019m serious, you haven\u2019t got no problem.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, I didn\u2019t mean to hound on this all night. What the\u2014 Anything else to say to him? I just\u2014 Something, something that accidentally fell in the foray\u2014<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b> Uh, Ron, the day you were working at Central Supply, I just want to say I think\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Shift.<\/p>\n

Young woman:<\/b>\u2014 you were acting very childish, like a hurt child, somebody took his candy away, because you couldn\u2019t go to Georgetown. You moped around, then you were real<\/i> glad that you went to the front gate so that you wouldn\u2019t have face people and tell them why you didn\u2019t go. You know, you were very upset about having to explain it to everybody, which is just your ego hanging on, I thought.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> I agree with that. I just, I didn\u2019t want to face people. I, every asking, why didn\u2019t you go, and I, I just, I was embarrassed<\/i>.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> What the hell would you be embarrassed<\/i> about? There was no slapstick, the director of the cultural whatever the shit<\/i> office he thinks he is, said no slapstick.<\/p>\n

Ron:<\/b> Well\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s the simple answer to that. The only reason Jack<\/i> [Beam] went was to look after a boar hog<\/i> and a fucking boat<\/i>, and uh, and Patty<\/i>, we wouldn\u2019t have no<\/i> slapstick potential. Patty went in to get fruit<\/i>. (Pause) You people oughtn\u2019t to be so image-conscious. Hell, I wouldn\u2019t mind if somebody arrested me tonight. That\u2019d be easy. I know where my parameters were. (Laughs) I imagine a whole<\/i> lot of folk been fighting this, with these sonsabitches, all for the letters and strategy, they\u2019d be glad<\/i> to be arrested tonight. Go over there on the Learning Crew, you people feel sorry for yourself, Learning Crew, you got shit, you got it made. You got it made<\/i>, I said.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019m sure folk are letter-writing and all kinds of coordination, they\u2019d love<\/i> to go to Learning Crew, shit. At least they\u2019d know when they\u2019re going to bed<\/i>. Some of us don\u2019t even know<\/i>. (Pause) Lousy, damn\u2014\u00a0I would have to have a, what is it they call them, night after?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/b> Morning after\u2014 hangover\u2014<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The hangover? Yeah. (Pause) And I got such a will<\/i>, some people would\u2019ve got more out of a drunk, they\u2019d at least get all night out of it, but I can\u2019t even get a few minutes, because I love<\/i> you too much to allow myself the privilege. (Pause) (Loud) Okay, stay awake, honey, we ain\u2019t got no choice, we don\u2019t know whether we\u2019re up all night with guns or what, because we\u2014\u00a0see, why we\u2019re sitting here, you understand why we\u2019re sitting here? \u2018Cause we threaten the fucking government<\/i> that\u2019s in charge. We gotta know what their reaction<\/i> is when we go to sleep, right?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Are we threatening them more. Anybody know what\u2019s going on? What was it? Jeanette? The doctor and the pharmacist and whatever the shit<\/i> else\u2014 coverage\u2014 news articles and a whole bunch of shit we throwed in one package deal, lot of other little extraneous matters, I don\u2019t know, we throwed it all<\/i> in there, barged into their office. So I gotta know what kind of results<\/i> we had tonight. (Pause) Don\u2019t you agree? Don\u2019t you think\u2014 You going to sleep very well if you went home\u2014<\/p>\n

End of tape.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted December 1998<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read the Tape Summary, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1, Pt. 2). To return to the Tape Index, click here. Jones: (Conversational tone) This is my true nature at work. I like you, and […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":27291,"menu_order":423,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-27511","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27511","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=27511"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27511\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":123210,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27511\/revisions\/123210"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27291"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=27511"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}