{"id":27550,"date":"2013-06-16T00:20:57","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:20:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27550"},"modified":"2014-04-08T22:20:53","modified_gmt":"2014-04-08T22:20:53","slug":"q706","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27550","title":{"rendered":"Q706 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><strong>Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<p>To return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here.<\/a><br \/>\nTo read the Tape Summary, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28256\">click here<\/a>. Listen to <a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q706 (Side B).mp3\">MP3<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Side A: Blank<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Side B:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve Davis:<\/strong> Who\u2019s this? Eddie?<\/p>\n<p>(Pause) (Sounds of people walking near telephone)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ Jackson:<\/strong> Hello?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Uh, CJ. Yeah, hey, man, I\u2013 I wanted to talk to you. I want to tell you that, yesterday or last night, man, I had been drinking, and when I saw you today, man, I knew that I loved you as a brother, man. I\u2013\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry for hurting you, man, okay, and uh, I wanted to tell you that at the Temple, but you seemed to be so down on me or something like that, I\u2013 I wouldn\u2019t hurt you for nothing, man, really, if you want to know the truth. And I\u2019m not saying it because I\u2019m afraid\u2013 <em>you<\/em> know that I\u2019m not afraid of anything, but, hey man, you\u2019re <em>like<\/em> my brother. And I\u2019m <em>not<\/em> out to hurt you. I gotta stay here until I get my dental work completed, man. I\u2019m trying to hustle up money now to get it done, I\u2019m going to have to go into LA and (unintelligible word) some bodywork there until I can get it done. (Emphatic) I am nobody\u2019s traitor. I just can\u2019t do nothing against you. Uh, if you need me at any given time, wherever I am, or you contact me, whether it\u2019s financially or any other kinda way, man\u2013<\/p>\n<p>(two men talk over each other, both unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Let me understand this.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>What\u2019s that?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> You\u2019re messing with what I love dearly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Hey, man\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> You\u2019re messing with this principle, with this cause, with everything that we stand for here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Yeah, I mean\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> And you\u2019re making a complete ass of yourself in the meantime.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Hey, man, I was drinking, man. Uh, I was drinking last night, yesterday, I was just so disgusted, it was pathetic. And I don\u2019t think there\u2019s anybody h\u2013 uh, <em>with<\/em> him more than I am, uh, but, hey man, it\u2019s just so much aggravation, but I\u2019m gonna go on, but I don\u2019t want to come back, really, I don\u2019t feel up to it. Not\u2013 I don\u2019t know, man, but anyway, I\u2019m not against you, none of you in any way, or\u2013 I do what I can to help you (unintelligible under CJ interruption)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> I\u2013 I\u2013 I do think that you ought to consider communicating uh, what sorrow you <em>have<\/em> to Father, really, because indeed, uh, you know, you\u2019ve insulted <em>him<\/em> more than you\u2019ve insulted me or anyone else.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I consulted him how.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> You\u2019ve <em>insulted<\/em> him.<\/p>\n<p>(two men talk over each other, both unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I don\u2019t understand what you mean.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> I\u2019m saying that we have something that we are willing to die for here, and Wayne has told us that you don\u2019t give a damn about it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>No, it ain\u2019t nothing like that. You can\u2013 I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m positive of that, because even out here and now, I still can\u2019t help of think of (unintelligible word). Hey, man, I\u2019m just\u2013 wait a minute, I just can\u2019t\u2013 I\u2019m just telling you the truth.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Well, you\u2019re certainly not communicating that, Cleve. (unintelligible under Cleve interruption)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I don\u2019t\u2013 I mean\u2013 Hey, maybe I mean\u2013 It\u2019s probably\u2013 CJ, if you understood me, I don\u2019t think that you would really condemn me uh\u2013 Hey man, I just don\u2019t like a lot of aggravation, and they caught me at the wrong time and\u2013 and I had drank some wine, because there just too much aggravation. I didn\u2019t feel like fixing that car yesterday, but they gave me permission to fix it and I was trying to save some money there. And I don\u2019t want any trouble. That\u2019s the reason I say, I gotta say in LA until January the fifth and come back, and I gotta get this dental work done before I go anyplace.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Okay, (unintelligible word) when are you going a lot\u2013\u00a0to LA?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I probably go to LA tomorrow sometime, whenever I get up enough money. I\u2019m trying to get up enough now. I don\u2019t <em>have<\/em> anything. I don\u2019t have now, I have nothing. I don\u2019t even have enough to buy nothing to eat with, man, I mean, I got twelve dollars out of Debbie\u2019s purse last night, which I\u2019m going to give that back to her. Just so I was trying to hustle up fare to get away from here. I called (unintelligible), to have some money sent to LA, and it may be there by the time I get there, because\u2013 Man, I just don\u2019t want no trouble.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Cleve, I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m gonna say this to you, man, and I\u2019m gonna say this because, while I\u2013 I don\u2019t really think that I ought to say it, but I\u2019m gonna say it anyhow. Father\u2019s the most loving being on this planet. (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Man, I don\u2019t think nobody love him more than I do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Now the thing is, uh, whatever provisions you needed, they would\u2019ve been there for you, but no one had a chance to talk with you, man. You chose to act like an ass.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I drink\u2013<\/p>\n<p>(two men talk over each other, both unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> You wasn\u2019t drunk upstairs.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>No, no, no. When I came\u2013 When I came up there last night? Yes, I was. I had been drinking. I\u2019d been drinking real heavy. I drink almost a bottle of wine and then some brandy, and I had drank something yesterday, too, when I was working on the van, because I was so disgusted, man, I needed a lift or something, because I didn\u2019t even feel like <em>working<\/em> on that darned thing. And it upset my nervous system. That\u2019s the reason I was out there just <em>alone<\/em>. I didn\u2019t want to be bothered. And when I\u2013 I\u2013 I shouldn\u2019t\u2019ve been drinking, but I <em>did<\/em>, man, and I\u2019m sorry for it, because it just created a lot of hell, which I wouldn\u2019t have normally did. And man, when I saw you this morning, you just don\u2019t how I felt towards you. I wanted to\u2013 to apologize, I wanted to put my arms around you, because you were like a brother to me. I didn\u2019t know I really felt that way (unintelligible word) until I looked at you and thought that I had hurted you, and man, I\u2013 it hurts me in my heart, no shit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> No, you hurt the cause more than you hurt me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I hurt the shit out (unintelligible under CJ)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> And\u2013 And let me say as far as <em>I\u2019m<\/em> concerned, you know, you angered me to the point that I\u2019m being held back now by the cause, by Father, by folk here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Uh-huh [Yes].<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> You understand that? So, uh, I\u2013 I don\u2019t know, man, I don\u2019t know what to say to you other than, right now even, I\u2019m trying to, on their behalf, on the cause behalf, to be rational with you. And\u2013 and the only reason, doggone it, I mention this is because you need to give yourself that opportunity. You know, you really need to give <em>yourself<\/em> that opportunity. And you\u2019ve shitted on everything that I believe in, everything that <em>we<\/em> believe in, and I don\u2019t know what to tell you, man, other than, you gonna have to do something tall in order to get yourself in order. \u2018Cause there ain\u2019t nothing else happening nowhere.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> You know. Ain\u2019t nothing else happening nowhere.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I mean, I\u2019ll just go on and do what I can from out here to help you guys out, uh, and if anything should go wrong, you can always bet that I\u2019ll be with you uh, and I would l\u2013 like to know, can you forgive me for what I\u2019ve done. I\u2019m sorry, man, and that\u2019s all I can say, really.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t\u2013 I don\u2019t\u2013 I don\u2019t have no forgiveness of my own to give to you. My satisfaction would come out of your being uh, how would you say, what you <em>should<\/em> be as far as this principle, this cause, this work is concerned. You understand? You shitted on that. Not me. And\u2013 and you know, that comes <em>before<\/em> me. So this is where your apologies belong.<\/p>\n<p>(two men talk over each other, both unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>\u2013belong to who?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> They belong to Father, they belong to everyone that\u2019s a part of this work.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I can\u2019t\u2013 I mean, I couldn\u2019t get to see Father or anything. What should I do, write or something from where I am.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Well, I would suggest that you attempt somehow to communicate\u2013 (last word unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Suggest that I do what?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Yeah, I would suggest that you write him. I\u00ad\u2013 I really would. I would suggest that you do something to try and communicate other th\u2013 something other than the bullshit you\u2019ve communicated since yesterday.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, um\u2013 You think you can forgive me for hurting you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> I\u2019m saying to you, man, I\u2019m not in this at all. You understand? I\u2019m not where I ought to be for you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Uh-huh.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> But I know this. That you and your actions, you\u2019ve been against everything that I\u2019m trying to live for, that I\u2019m trying to struggle for. You understand what I mean? So, the thing is, as far as <em>my<\/em> anger go\u2013 <em>My<\/em> anger is based on the fact that <em>you<\/em> chose to <em>threaten<\/em> what <em>my<\/em> daughter, what <em>your<\/em> daughter, what all of the elderly people, all of the children here, need and are depending on for survival. You understand what I\u2019m saying?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> And all that other bullshit ain\u2019t nothing. We are fighting for our dear lives in this nation. We\u2019re fighting for everything, and doggone it, I\u2019m not gonna stand by and let you, let my old companion, let nobody destroy it. You understand what I\u2019m saying? So you don\u2019t\u2013 you can\u2019t\u2013\u00a0you can\u2019t justi\u2013 you can\u2019t\u2013 you can\u2019t call me aside and\u2013 and apologize to me, your apology belongs to a whole group, to Father first.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Okay, well uh\u2013 Hey\u2013 hey man, let me uh\u2013 as far as life is concerned, I really don\u2019t give a damn about it, uh, I don\u2019t care about what happens to me, period, really. I\u2013 I\u2019m not afraid\u2013 (unintelligible under CJ)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Well, you care about your daughter.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> You care about your daughter.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well\u2013<\/p>\n<p>(two men talk over each other, both unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> \u2013what in the hell you can get\u2013 (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve:<\/strong> I love my child, and, I feel like that if y\u2019all not gonna be cooperative and let me see her or anything like this, but anyway, I still won\u2019t cause you any trouble or anything, man, but uh\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I just wanna go on\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Don\u2019t. Don\u2019t, don\u2019t, don\u2019t, don\u2019t paint no pictures, Cleve. (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Don\u2019t paint no what?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Because as I\u2013 I said once before, Father is the most loving human being on the face on this earth.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Uh-huh.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> And if you get yourself together, if you prove yourself together, doggone it, I\u2019m not (unintelligible word) in a position to speak for him, but doggone it, you <em>know<\/em> how forgiving and how loving he is, and you know that the whole thing that we\u2019ve gone through has been first of all for you to get you together. But you chose to shit on that. And you chose that\u2013 to shit on that, uh, at\u2013 at a\u2013 at a cost to us. (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>No, I just wanted y\u2019all to leave me alone, that\u2019s all. I\u2019m trying to work and help you, but you just won\u2019t\u2013 can\u2019t understand it, I just don\u2019t you to bother me. And I\u2019m not a <em>violent<\/em> type of <em>person<\/em>. If I hadn\u2019t been drinking, I wouldn\u2019ve done what I <em>did<\/em>, but anyway, uh\u2013 The onliest thing I ask is just to leave me alone. I can handle any situation, man, I don\u2019t need nobody pushing me around. (unintelligible under CJ)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Yeah, well, don\u2019t, don\u2019t, don\u2019t, (unintelligible under Cleve). Just don\u2019t hang around the church, okay?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>What?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Don\u2019t hang around the church.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I mean\u2013 (Pause) Can I get my things from the Valley? Uh\u2013 I have a .38 to give you\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> I\u2013 I (unintelligible under Cleve) to give you any\u2013 any response on a\u2013 whatever. In fact, you know, it\u2019s been requested that you leave town.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I can\u2019t leave until my dental work is completed. Now this is just it. And I have to stay here until my dental work is completed. Now\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> When is that?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know. Whenever the doctor finishes it. I\u2019m at Dr. (unintelligible name). Deborah knows where it is. There\u2019s a dental card on her dresser, she knows where the dental office is. And I ain\u2019t going no place \u2013 now understand me \u2013 until this is finished. I\u2019m not afraid on the streets, and I\u2019m not trying to hurt nobody. But I <em>will<\/em> fight if I\u2019m attacked the next time, but I don\u2019t want to. I don\u2019t want to hurt nobody, man, I\u2019m telling you the truth.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Well, you stay away from <em>here<\/em>, I\u2019ll tell you that much. I can say that on my own. (Pause) You understand that, don\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I mean\u2013 Now, I have to come back until I get my things from up in the Valley. So I mean, just make that arrangement, and then I won\u2019t have any reason to (unintelligible under CJ)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Well, I\u2013 I don\u2019t have nothing to do with that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>But you can find out, can\u2019t you? You\u2019re a counselor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> And the thing is\u2013 uh\u2013 the thing is\u2013 I\u2019m saying, don\u2019t hang around (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, don\u2019t threaten me, CJ. (unintelligible under CJ)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> I\u2019m not threatening you. I\u2019m just letting you know \u2013 you understand? \u00a0\u2013 where I\u2019m at. (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I mean, now I have to come back until I get my (unintelligible under CJ)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Now you have\u2013\u00a0you have a\u2013 a justifiable uh, argument\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> \u2013on\u2013 on your behalf as to what your needs are regarding your dental thing and such and so forth. I\u2019m not in a position to make no decisions on any of that. But I know how <em>I<\/em> feel personally about, you know\u2013 a\u2013 about the whole damn shit. You have shitted on everything, man, (unintelligible word), that\u2019s all I\u2013\u00a0only thing I can think about.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>You know what? If you guys just give me my things, uh\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Yeah, well, let\u2013 at this point, we\u2013 we\u2019re wasting energy\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> \u2013\u2018cause I\u2013 I don\u2019t have nothing to do with that, I can\u2019t do anything about it. (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>But you can find out about it, can\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> I think that it\u2019s up to <em>you<\/em> to make the first move, man.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Okay, well, what you want me to do?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Well, the <em>first<\/em> move really should be to get yourself away from here as you are instructed to do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>No, I can\u2019t leave, now, until I get my things and my dental work fixed. Now understand this, I did this before.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Another thing that uh, you should do is put in writing, I think, and make it clear where you are, what your head\u2013 what\u2019s\u2013 what\u2019s in your head, and\u2013 and\u2013 and just generally how you <em>feel<\/em> about things. I\u2013\u00a0I\u2013\u00a0I do feel that that would be in order. And\u2013 and aside from that, I don\u2019t know what else to tell you, man.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Okay, brother, well, looky-here, thank you very much, and uh, like I say, I\u2019m not going anyplace until everything is completed here. I can\u2019t, not this time, until I have everything in order, because it cost me two hundred dollars more \u2013 a hundred and ninety-two \u2013 for my dental work (unintelligible under CJ)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Where you located now?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Where you at? Where are you now?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Where\u2019m I at?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Is there a telephone number I can reach you at?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>(Pause) Uh, yeah.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Well, what is that number?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>864-<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> 864-<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>-9324. It\u2019s a telephone booth.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> 9324.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Uh-huh.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Is that near where you live?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Is that near where you live?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s not too far, about three blocks from there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Oh, well, you won\u2019t be (unintelligible word) I\u2019ll be able to reach you later tonight or not.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I\u2019ll wait here, if you\u2019re gonna call back.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> I\u2019m not giving you that promise, I just wanted to know how to reach you, that\u2019s all.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>It\u2019s what?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> I just wanted to know how to reach you. I ain\u2019t giving you that promise.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Okay, well, if you call back here, I\u2019ll just stick around here, I ain\u2019t got nothing else to do. (Pause) If you can help me out any, I\u2019ll just stick here. Is that okay?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Ain\u2019t nothing I can do, man. I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m suggesting that what <em>you<\/em> do is important.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Okay.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Now of course, I\u2019m gonna report this conversation, and if any decisions are to be made, or if anything else is to be decided based on\u2013 on\u2013 on the report now, why, then, uh, others might want to contact. That\u2019s the only reason for getting this number.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I mean, looky-here, could you contact me in LA then?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Yeah, well, what\u2013 where I reach you in LA?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I mean, you can call there collect, I mean, I should be there tomorrow sometime.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Tomorrow sometime. Okay.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Yeah. Call me at L.C.\u2019s [likely L.C. Mitchell]. I\u2019ll go by there and wait, I mean, for you to call me, okay?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Why would you put L.C. in a position, man?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Well, I ain\u2019t in no position. I have no place to <em>go<\/em>, man. (unintelligible under CJ)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> You\u2019re compromising L.C. Uh, don\u2019t you have another brother or sister you can (unintelligible under Cleve)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I don\u2019t have nobody, man. (Pause) And you\u2019re trying to take all I got, as my only brother I got, man.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Hmm.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>And you\u2019re not putting me in a position.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Okay, what\u2019s LC\u2019s number, man?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Huh?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> What\u2019s LC\u2019s number?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>299-<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> 299-<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>-2551. Now I have to go there, because this is the only friend I got, man.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> -2551.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Yeah. And I ain\u2019t bringing no hassle to you. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Mm.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>I just don\u2019t have no place to go and no money. That\u2019s all. \u2018Cause I donated all my money.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Okay, well, look, I\u2019m gonna have to run on, man.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>Okay, and thanks very much, okay?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cleve: <\/strong>We\u2019ll see you later.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CJ:<\/strong> Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n<p><em>(Line disconnects)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>End of tape<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b>Tape originally posted May 2013<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To return to the Tape Index, click here. To read the Tape Summary, click here. Listen to MP3. Side A: Blank Side B: Cleve Davis: Who\u2019s this? Eddie? 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