{"id":27568,"date":"2013-06-16T00:21:01","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:21:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27568"},"modified":"2024-10-25T10:15:58","modified_gmt":"2024-10-25T17:15:58","slug":"q735","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27568","title":{"rendered":"Q735 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><strong>Transcript prepared by <i><strong>Gay Marie Cabral<\/strong><\/i>. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<p>To return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo read the Tape Summary, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28274\">click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (<a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q735a.mp3\">Pt. 1<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q735b.mp3\">Pt. 2<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><i>(<strong>Note: <\/strong>Transcript prepared by Gay Marie Cabral. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/i><\/p>\n<p><strong>Side 1:<\/strong> Blank<\/p>\n<p><strong>Side 2:<\/p>\n<p>Part I:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Yvonne Golden: <\/strong>(tape begins mid-sentence) support from a special community that I am just absolutely, just\u2013 I\u2019m <i>overwhelmed<\/i> with the kind of support that we\u2019ve had. This person I\u2019m referring to now, I want him to just to say a brief few words, before we bring on some student entertainment, but I want this person to say a word. For those of you who don\u2019t know him, (Pause) he\u2019s a marvelous person. He\u2019s the best thing to ever happen to San Francisco, and I\u2019m not just saying that. I really mean that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Audience:<\/strong> (applause)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Golden:<\/strong> He is a minister of a community. He is a community activist. He is a developer <i>and<\/i> an advocate\u2013 an advocate of people\u2019s programs in San Francisco. There\u2019s a very nice\u2013 he has a very <i>huge<\/i>, I should say, Temple and congregation here in San Francisco and in LA., and he puts what everyone else has told me that\u2019s supposed to be Christianity, he puts it to work. It is what it really, really is. He has uh, senior citizen programs. He has a\u2013 a\u2013 a drug treatment program. He has a daycare center program, and he\u2019s out in the community, and he\u2019s making himself heard and making himself known. I\u2019m en\u2013 I\u2019m really thrilled \u2013 I\u2019m thrilled \u2013 that we\u2019ve got such a supporter, because I <i>know<\/i>, <i>I<\/i> know, what they will do and <i>not<\/i> do to you when you have that kind of support.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Voice in crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Golden: <\/strong>I\u2019m a <i>victim<\/i> of what the system has done to you. I was <i>arrested<\/i> in my school and put in jail because I stood up against the Nazi party. The Nazi party was at a board meeting packed that (unintelligible word), derogatory\u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>Audience:<\/strong> (applause)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Golden:<\/strong> So when <i>this<\/i> man is behind us, and this <i>community<\/i> is behind us, I <i>know<\/i> what this district will not do to you, and this <i>city<\/i> will not do to you. And I\u2019ve asked him to come in tonight and say a few words, just a couple of words. We don\u2019t want to be too long tonight, because we want to allow a lot of time for parents to talk to stu\u2013 to the\u2013 to the uh, students\u2019 uh, teachers. I\u2019d like for him to say a few more words. And that person is none other than Reverend Jim Jones.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Audience: <\/strong>(sustained applause and cheers)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> First, I would like to present a check for $200 (unintelligible word). It was brought to our attention by Ron Cabral and uh, Mr. Ambercrom\u2013 Crombie\u2013 is it Abercrombie?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Golden:<\/strong> [Hal] Abercrombie.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> \u2013for a need for physical educational equipment, and we <i>wish<\/i> we could do more. We\u2019re funding so many things across the entire city in the thousands of dollars, but it\u2019s $200, and we\u2019ll try to do more.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Audience: <\/strong>(applause)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> This is the best lady that ever happened to our students. Although we have dozens of our own members here, we choose this high school. Uh\u2013 We didn\u2019t come because we <i>had<\/i> to. We chose it because it\u2019s got the <i>best<\/i> coordinator and the <i>best<\/i> teachers in my book, in the <i>entire<\/i> district. That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Audience: <\/strong>(applause)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> It has flexibility. It exposes students to the broad range of information, experiences, curriculum of different (unintelligible word) example, basic skills, survival courses, things I never learned in high school. Swimming, outdoor educational experiences and physical therapy that we\u2013 just\u2013 just different variety of (unintelligible word). A curriculum that\u2019s practical, applied to daily living needs, like filling out application forms, welfare forms, food stamps and job applications, as well as having college (unintelligible word) courses. We certainly need to know how to fill out forms being that we are very much oppressed still in this society.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Man holding microphone:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> (unintelligible word) there are oppressed people, only have to look at Yvonne\u2019s experience, how many times she has been attempted to be <i>framed<\/i> merely because she speaks out her mind.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Man holding microphone:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> We want you to know, all of you at uh, Opportunity High, we\u2019re behind you 100%. The most <i>beautiful<\/i> thing that you do is\u2013 is\u2013 is inspire free thinking, and you\u2019ve got <i>none<\/i> of that to speak of in most schools, and I\u2019m proud that our students\u2013 I speak on behalf of what, I don\u2019t know, a hundred of our students that are here, and they\u2019re all happy as they can be. And <i>thank<\/i> you for the privilege of being here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Audience: <\/strong>(sustained applause)<\/p>\n<p>Tape edit<\/p>\n<p>Sounds of raucous celebration.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Unidentified woman: <\/strong>Will everybody please sit down? And will the people that are on this side of the podium please go back behind the ropes? Only the monitors are supposed to be up here. (Pause) Please go back behind the ropes. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Unintelligible conversation<\/p>\n<p><strong>Unidentified woman:<\/strong> Everybody please sit down, and please clear this side of the podium. Only the monitors and the speakers are to be on this side. Thank you. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p>Tape edit<\/p>\n<p><strong>Part II<\/p>\n<p>Jones: <\/strong>I wish to convey to you that we have the following people who have pledged support to me this morning and last night against the Bakke decision. George Moscone, Mayor of San Francisco.<\/p>\n<p>Drum beat. Applause.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Unidentified voice:<\/strong> Right on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> Joseph Freitas, District Attorney, San Francisco.<\/p>\n<p>Drum beat. Applause.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Unidentified voice: <\/strong>Right on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> Charles Gain, Chief of Police. Richard Hongisto, Sheriff of the San Francisco County. Robert Mendelsohn, supervisor of San Francisco County. Dr. Carlton Goodlett, publisher of the <i>Sun-Reporter<\/i>, nine newspapers in the area and President of the National Newspaper Publishers Association of the United States. Reverend Tony Ubalde, housing commissioner that was just appointed along with me couple of days ago to the Housing Commission of San Francisco, and pastor of the very active Bath\u2013 Bethany United Methodist Church. Reverend Cecil Williams, pastor of the Glide Memorial Methodist Church.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Unidentified voice: <\/strong>Right on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> Reverend Lynn Hodges, Executive Director of the Northern California Council of Churches. Reverend Marvin Chandler, Executive Minister of the San Francisco Council of Churches. Dr. Karl Irvin, President of the Northern California\/Nevada Christian Churches Disciples of Christ of well over a hundred churches. John Maher, founder of the <a href=\"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=128899\">Delancey Street Foundation<\/a>. Vincent Hallinan, we all know as the upstounding attorney\u2013 trial attorney of the people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Unidentified voice:<\/strong> Right on. Right on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> Mr. and Mrs. Charles Garry [Charles and Louise Garry], the distinguished civil rights attorney, he\u2019s all right\u2013 already saying that he is making\u2013 filing a petition against the Bakke decision. Benjamin Dreyfus, the prominent attorney and associate of Charles Garry, along with James Herndon, partner to Garry\u2019s firm, who has joined other lawyers in petition\u2013 tition\u2013 petitioning for a rehearing. The American Civil Liberties Union of San Francisco also pledged to me this morning their support against the Bakke decision. Albert Kahn, the author of several best-sellers, including <i>High Treason<\/i>, <i>Sabotage,<\/i> and <i>The Great Conspiracy<\/i>, pledged his support. North of Market Street Senior Organization (pause) and many other churches \u2013 I\u2013 I think I better quit \u2013 many churches of all denominations and pastors.<\/p>\n<p>When we look at this terrible Bakke decision in conjunction with the alarming rise of racism in America, with the Supreme Court decisions that are threatening other civil liberties, with attacks on the press by the government, with the benign neglect, the total lack of concern and apparent acceptance of poverty and unemployment in America, we ought to be deeply concerned and alarmed here today.<\/p>\n<p>Drum beat. Applause.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> This is the kind of precedent that is dangerous. Yes, <i>ominous<\/i>. It can spell the eradication of all the gains that were won by the civil rights movement of the 1960s. It will mean that all of our efforts to institute a\u2013 equality could well be in vain, that the civil rights workers who died in the South may well have died in vain, that the people who marched, the Medgar Evers, Viola Liuzzo, the countless people who have been shot, beaten, brutalized, jailed, fire-bombed and evicted, have gone through it all in vain, and that the nationwide efforts that went into getting legislation passed to make right 400 years of injustice, slavery, exploitation, torture and oppression, all this can well be in vain. This decision is an ominous sign that blacks, brown[s], Asians, Native Americans, and even poor whites, all of us of color, are being given a message that we are not wanted in the mainstream of American life, that we are expendable.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Man holding microphone:<\/strong> All right, Jim. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Drum beat. Applause.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> The decision is a major step towards setting up all Third we\u2013 World people for even <i>harsher<\/i> measures that would lead to the creation of a permanent state of economic, social and political obsolescence for us. And both recent and current events in the world have shown us what the next step could re\u2013 very well be. Samuel Yette in his book <i>The Choice<\/i> tells us that it is the issue of survival itself. (Pause) (Voice moderates, then builds) The Bakke decision is part and parcel of what is shaping up to be a conspiracy against poor and Third World people in this nation, and the conspiracy begins with the abridgement of civil rights, violation of treaties and promises, taking away of liberties that give all people an insurance of human dignity <i>and<\/i> equality. It doesn\u2019t stop with students who have been given an unequal education being refused admission into the establishment schools. It doesn\u2019t stop with taking away the only chance that deserving young people (unintelligible word) ever have of realizing their potential. It will have further ramifications, you can be <i>damn<\/i> sure of that.<\/p>\n<p>Drum beat. Applause.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> It will affect equality in the fields of housing. This precedent can affect precedence in employment and in social services of every kind. It\u2019ll keep the poor in bondage. It\u2019ll keep the door <i>shut<\/i>. And if it has been opened a few inches, the door will slam <i>entirely<\/i> shut.<\/p>\n<p>Applause.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> What was achieved in the streets, what was achieved in the lunchrooms, in the movie theaters, the buses and the halls of Congress in the sixties, is now being systematically wiped out in the courts. Blacks, browns, Asians, our Native American peoples, who have already been the victims of genocide, all Third Word\u2013 World people, all the poor, the disadvantaged, are now being <i>targeted<\/i>. We are seeing America being divided into two nations, one affluent and one white, the other impoverished and non-white. The line is being drawn. And while 8000 people, according to the paper this last week, are becoming poor, falling beneath the poverty level every day in the United States of America.<\/p>\n<p>Drum beat. Applause.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> And those who are already poor are becoming poorer. The rest of the population is being brainwashed to believe that things are going well, that everything is looking better. <i>Look<\/i> at your TV. Poor people can be starving, but we can get a TV. And the images of the affluent society are there to entertain us every day, to persuade us that America\u2013 the American dream is being realized <i>more<\/i> than ever, but <i>we<\/i> know better. We are not fooled.<\/p>\n<p>Drum beat. Applause.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jones:<\/strong> My friends, we are facing a most ominous time in the coming years. The light of liberty could well be going out in the land, this greatest and most powerful land around the world. In nation after nation we see the persecution of mi\u2013 minorities. Torture is an epidemic. It has been made an institution and official policy of government in some 60 nations around the world. So when we look at the Bakke decision\u2013 and I bet if you asked people on the street about it, you won\u2019t find one in a hundred who is even aware of it, and if they were, would most likely probably not even give a damn, or most likely would agree with it, or agree with keeping us niggers out of the college. We have to look at it in the context of what is happening all over the nation, as unemployment mounts, as busing protest turns into racist violence, (voice drops to more intense tone, then slowly rises) as the Klan gains thousands of recruits, as migrant workers are <i>brutalized<\/i> and denied their rights, as <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60990\">Native Americans are left to die in squalor in concentration camps<\/a> and the wastelands of America \u2013 I have about one more minute \u2013 and its blacks are entrapped in the concentration camps of our inner cities as the state of siege begins to take its ugly shape in leaderless and hopeless nation, choking with its own affluence while millions are wasting away and dying. I say we have to look at this decision as yet another signpot\u2013 signpost on the road to <i>tyranny<\/i>, with a decision that would effectively sabotage our ch\u2013 to train\u2013 our efforts to train black and brown doctors to give us medical care that is so desperately needed, black and brown lawyers to help us with legal problems that plague poor people trying to survive in a society where the laws too often are written for the rich and the privileged, a decision that would sabotage the training of Third World educators to help us overcome the cultural brainwash, the rip-offs, the deceit, and the <i>impossible<\/i> conditions for advancement that exist in our communities, our ghettoes. With such a decision being handed down from rich white judges in what is supposed to be the most liberal state in the union, the state that is years ahead of our times, we are told, we are in a <i>serious<\/i> condition. And this last parago\u2013 paragraph, I hope that the message will get out about this decision, and that our legislatures can do something to <i>reverse<\/i> it. If not, another nail will have been driven in the <i>coffin<\/i> of democracy, another nail in the <i>coffin<\/i> of equality, freedom, justice and civil liberties, and when these things are gone, my friends, we will be in a predicament that could very well mean our very survival.<\/p>\n<p>Drum beat. Applause.<\/p>\n<p>End of tape.<\/p>\n<p><b>Tape originally posted March 2010<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Transcript prepared by Gay Marie Cabral. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To return to the Tape Index, click here. To read the Tape Summary, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1, Pt. 2). (Note: Transcript prepared by Gay Marie Cabral. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.) 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