{"id":27632,"date":"2013-06-16T00:21:28","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:21:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=27632"},"modified":"2024-10-25T10:19:31","modified_gmt":"2024-10-25T17:19:31","slug":"q979","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27632","title":{"rendered":"Q979 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. <\/strong><\/i>If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. <\/strong><\/i>Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

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Jones:<\/strong> (voice fades in) in every large city in the United States, they\u2019re now down to a bare dozen, or a few dozen, (unintelligible word) I think. Some think that there\u2019re more than 48 left in the country. It is a frightening<\/em> situation to behold, but they\u2019re not satisfied until they crush them into complete dust<\/em>. Yes, yes, yes. So obviously we<\/em>, with over 800 here and 300 back there, become prime target. There\u2019ve been moves of all sorts of varieties, orchestrated by Mrs. Mertle [Deanne Mertle, aka Jeannie Mills]. They\u2019ve contacted every one they can possibly think of contacting, Mr. [Tim] Stoen now in it to save his own ass, in spite of his surreptitious notes, saying that he still shares our goals. No, that\u2019s not justification to save your own ass. No way can you justify saving your own ass. How could a man justify \u2013 who has no<\/em> children, no<\/em> one to take care of \u2013 how could he possibly justify trying to save himself from a few years of jail. (Pause) I\u2019m sure some of you would share<\/em> it with, and I\u2019m sure some of you would do exactly what he did. But how would<\/em> you do so, and how could<\/em> you do so? How could anyone be so evil as to save themselves at others\u2019 expense?<\/p>\n

Scattered in crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And give information to the enemy, and try to orchestrate as he has, and putting up people\u2013 some people who woulda never made a move, like one lad\u2019s mother here, without the backing of Tim Stoen (unintelligible word), to try to get the (unintelligible word), the cost of that airplane fare tomorrow. And now [Bobby] Stroud, and his<\/em> girlfriend [Marcie Ann Simon] and, even the (unintelligible word) family been made by Stoen\u2019s connection with the unintelligible name, sounds like \u201cMileah\u2019s\u201d) dad, being moved with that entire family, the Griffiths. Ridiculous<\/em>. They can\u2019t win it. Saying that they\u2019re all<\/em> uh, here against their will<\/em>, and thus need conservatorship. He represents legal hassle, even though we\u2019re winning. Can you imagine Mrs. [Mary] Griffith and the\u2013 her two boys [Emmett Griffith Jr. and Amondo Griffith] and uh, Mary, Amondo and uh, Emmett Senior, and he has a grandchild [Camella Griffith]\u2013 they have a grandchild now. Can you imagine that they\u2019re all here against their will? How do you get anyone on an airplane<\/em> against their will<\/em>? And how do you change ports twice at least, and sometimes three<\/em> times, and do that against someone\u2019s will<\/em>? Ridiculous. Said they were brought<\/em> here against their will. That\u2019s their charge, they were brought here against their will. And of course, someone keeps little things stirred up. But uh, one of our chaps is taking a walk through the neighborhood tonight. And I hope it doesn\u2019t go any further (unintelligible word). I\u2019m getting very weary with this kinda of shit. Hours and hours that I could spend going around, getting to know you and helping with projects and doing some physical work, and they\u2019re just simply wearing me down to a frazzle with these goddamn vicious<\/em> enemies, who want to cook up one thing after another. Each one of them have to be answered. Even though we win<\/em> the case, we still have to pay for a lawyer for each one of these separate individual situations. And we have any number that can be next. And they make an open<\/em> statement that they hope to bring us to our knees, cause disruption internally, take our money for legal defense so we won\u2019t have it to eat, thus starve us and bring us to our knees. I think the time has come for us to decide to\u2013 For my own\u2013\u00a0my own reasoning, I have not gone clear over to the Soviet Union and asked Tass to come in and asked the Soviet delegation and try to get newspaper copy in every Soviet journal<\/em>. But I am personally<\/em> of an opinion to do so. I\u2013 I think some of you people are not prepared to take on a full uh, stand, and I always act somewhat as a barometer for what you are able to take<\/em>. In my<\/em> opi\u2013 opinion, it is high time that we dissociate ourselves from everything remotely<\/em> in United States, and call ourselves what we are, pro-Soviet, and uh\u2013<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Shouts and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013do it in public and do it in private<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Applause.<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013Soviet, work on the situation. Hope you know what that means. Because we will certainly have a lot of enemies calling ourselves a pro-Soviet movement on the basis\u2013 on the continent of South America. But these people are not interested in negotiations or compromise. They\u2019re not interested in living or let living. Even a communal name unnamed\u2013 a communal group unnamed. Not calling ourselves pro-Soviet or pro-Chinese is unsatisfactory<\/em> to them. Anything in the name of communism, communal practice, cooperation, is a threat to them. Even if it\u2019s 6000 miles away, they have to crush it. I\u2019m sick of it. I don\u2019t want to go down as some idealistic uh, communalist. I\u2019d like it to be known personally, that I would still do what\u2019s the best interest of the people. I would like it to be known personally<\/em> that I have law\u2013 always been a communist, and always will<\/em> be a communist.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Right. (Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Peace. Best being seated. How many want to take that stand, even it meant that missiles be aimed at us. (Pause) Anyone so opposed to that stance? (Pause) Well, that\u2019s fine. You don\u2019t need to stand, but it\u2019s uh, good to\u2013 Anyone so opposed<\/em> to that stance. (Pause) They call in the Soviet press and call in\u2013 and make an open alliance with the Soviet Union.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Right. (Applause)<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We could get Winslow who was (unintelligible phrase) won with Judge Winslow, who tried to under\u2013 en\u2013\u00a0undermine his le\u2013 Lieutenant Governor Dymally, but he won with Lieutenant Governor Dymally, and said he said a hundred percent support. He would not believe anybody when they turned against us. That makes them an enemy of his. So that\u2019s good news, I\u2019d say, at this hour.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>(Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Peace.<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013a great part of the battle and [John] Maher, he tried to do the same thing with Maher. He\u00ad\u2013 Stoen is really really something else. He\u2019s really something else. But you have to get up early in the morning. I may be tired and weary with that\u2013 that goddamn squeakbox in there, but you have to get up early in the morning to get ahead of me when I\u2019m protecting you.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. (Scattered applause)<\/p>\n

Unidentified male: <\/strong>(unintelligible) \u2013we can\u2019t trust anybody.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Hmm?<\/p>\n

Male:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s the sur\u2013 (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013proves that you can trust nobody<\/em> till all of our people are safe. Also, some of these flamboyant-styled educated folk overestimate their influence<\/em> a little bit. He thought he could poison even Judge Winslow who was originally his friend, not mine. But he didn\u2019t succeed. People don\u2019t like sell-outs. They don\u2019t<\/em> like sell-outs. There\u2019s something instinctive, they don\u2019t like sell-outs. And Lieutenant Governor Dymally said he had uh\u2013 he had uh\u2013\u00a0he\u2019s a hundred<\/em> percent support and Maher said more than ever, \u2018cause Maher didn\u2019t like Stoen to begin with. He said. I didn\u2019t realize he\u2013 we never discussed Stoen, he said he didn\u2019t\u2013 lot of people didn\u2019t trust Stoen outside. We found that a lot<\/em> of people didn\u2019t. His own attorney<\/em> told us more than\u2013\u00a0well, I won\u2019t go into that. He\u2013 Some of his attorney friends told us (unintelligible word). He didn\u2019t come along\u2013\u00a0come across as Mr. Clean to some people. Maybe he will to the middle class, I don\u2019t know, maybe he will to the good Christians, now that he\u2019s found Jesus. (Pause) That\u2019s what they\u2019re all doing, uh, goddamn moral, and some kind of new awakening with Christ. I don\u2019t trust these religious assholes. Shift yourself, please. And as you may have heard<\/em> \u2013 I don\u2019t know, if some of you did not hear \u2013\u00a0they tried to get the denomination to get down on us by saying that we were atheist. Can you imagine Tim Stoen, who once jumped on Eva Pugh for having pictures on her wall, or paintings on her wall, uh, just a little prayer epithets [epigrams] on her wall that she didn\u2019t even know was there, wanting to get us put out of the denomination because we were atheist<\/em>. Which we are<\/em>. And we\u2019ve done all these things to Bibles, spit on it, and pissed on it. I don\u2019t recall ever pissing on it, but I will<\/em>. I\u2019ve shit<\/em> on it now.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Reacts<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2013 I\u2013\u00a0And what happened\u2013 Strangely enough, what happened was that he<\/em> is being put out. And we have not<\/em>. That proves that uh, religion is the prostitution of all centuries, I guess. Our few dollars a year that we give in donations, they need so badly that they\u2019ll keep atheists<\/em> in their ranks<\/em>. Or perhaps it\u2019s because the bishop had an affair with Pat Grunnet, and afraid we\u2019ll all go back and talk<\/em> about it. I<\/em> don\u2019t know what it is. But we don\u2019t give a shit, as long as we stay in. You say, why stay in? Keeps us from having to pay any taxes on any of our money. It would be terrible<\/em> to get throwed out of the denomination right now. All of our annual income this year could<\/em> be taxable. And that\u2019d be forty to fifty percent. So he tried to get us taxed<\/em> for our money. Very nice people, some of these people are. Mrs. Mertle even sued the denomination \u2013\u00a0two million members \u2013 she even sued it in her false suit against us for spanking her child [Linda Mertle] when she ordered it, and Ruby, who she sued in the process and the church, she sued the denomination, thinking that that would cause them so much pressure financially that they would throw us out. But for some<\/em> reason, we\u2013\u00a0we are kept in, and Reverend Stoen \u2013 he was one of the ordained ministers next to me, and his\u2013 his ordination will be dropped in the next few days.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013(unintelligible word). I didn\u2019t ask that his ordination be dropped. They just said if he\u2019s not\u2013 are you saying he\u2019s not with you? And then they said, no, he\u2019s obviously not with us. They said, then we\u2019ll be dropping his ordination. So, we shall see what future holds. It doesn\u2019t make any difference whether you\u2013 whether people like it or not, you need to stand up for what\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> It makes no difference whether Lieutenant Governor Dymally likes us \u2013 and he does, (unintelligible phrase) uh, whether uh, Mr. Maher of Delancey Street<\/a> or any of that\u2013 Willie Brown, by the way, is another who sent his warmest regards, and gonna come in fact in a few months. And all these people Stoen tried to damage, and so did Mertle and Cobbs [Jim Cobb and Terry Cobb]. Uh, all these people they tried to\u2013 they tried to damage<\/em> our relationship, but they didn\u2019t succeed<\/em>. They\u2019ve all had the full story on John [Victor Stoen] and uh, think it\u2019s uh, very beautiful. In fact, the head of the denomination called up and gave us special praise, he said, this makes me regard your leader very highly. He said, I have known these people in all of my<\/em> denomination who\u2019ve had children, and they would lie and desert their responsibilities, and never acknowledge it, and never do a thing<\/em> to take care of the\u2013 the children they\u2019ve brought in the earth. He said, here he risks his reputation and censure by the press and colleagues and lu\u2013 loss of followers and finances to stand by his son, he said I want you to commend him and tell him he has my full<\/em> support.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Applause and cries<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I would not\u2019ve suspected that. I would not\u2019ve suspected that kind of response. And they don\u2019t know anything about why I did<\/em> what I did with Grace [Stoen], which was not for a fuck<\/em>, like some of you people do. They don\u2019t even have the story<\/em> yet. It\u2019s not been told. Not been told. All they know in the press is that I have a child. They didn\u2019t know that I did it to save the woman from harming this cause and harming Tim and in fact destroying us. We wouldn\u2019t have anything today, if I had not done what I did do, after consulting with all the board and consulting with Marceline [Jones], if I hadn\u2019t done what I did do today, you wouldn\u2019t\u2019ve had any chance for freedom. Because she was on her way to tearing this place up years ago. And Tim was too weak to stand. He said he couldn\u2019t stand without her, said he wanted me to do something to keep her. And I kept her at least six long years. And that was a hell of a goddamn pain in the ass. And the people don\u2019t even know<\/em> that I did it for that<\/em> reason. They don\u2019t know<\/em> the beauty of the conviction and commitment to the total cause behind<\/em> the picture, and they\u2019re still<\/em> standing behind us. That\u2019s amazing, that some of these people are standing behind us. \u2018Course, Dymally said, I<\/em> know conspiracy is crushing everybody that stands for black rights and freedom in this country. He said I know you\u2019re the victim of conspiracy. And he said, don\u2019t need to uh, worry, you\u2019ve got my one hundred percent support. And anybody that turns against you becomes my enemy. And that\u2019s very good news. I think you ought to be grateful for that. That\u2019s very good news.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Peace. He\u2019s been one of our consistent<\/em> links to keep at bay some of the more right wing elements of the so\u2013\u00a0of the centrist elements of the\u2013\u00a0of this<\/em> ruling party, and he\u2019s caused the government to come firmly over to our side<\/em>, by his strong letters of support. I think I read the letter to you. How many remember me reading the letter? It was a very, very strong unqualified<\/em> letter of support. And to think that Stoen would try to destroy that. (Pause) I\u2019m beginning to feel a passion to uh, pray for people.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> If you understand.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Laughter and chatter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Voice ises throughout) What gets me is not what they do\u2013 do to me. It\u2019s the fact that they knowingly<\/em> would take the food away from babies and seniors and medicines away from people in this very community of wha\u2013\u00a0over 800 people, that they would knowingly<\/em> try to destroy. Goddamn \u2018em, I\u2019d like to kill<\/em> \u2018em when I think about it.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I mean, I could take my own hands and break their bones.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Angry, tight tone) Motherfuckers. Peace. (tape edit) Can\u2019t walk away and keep their goddamn mouth shut<\/em>. Save their goddamn ass, and then (unintelligible word) get him for nothing, they didn\u2019t get it\u2013 they didn\u2019t have to do it. They were in no danger. They got up just to have their goddamn name in the newspaper. Dirty sons-a-bitches. If you don\u2019t hate a class enemy, then there\u2019s something wrong with you, and some of you don\u2019t have enough\u2013\u00a0you don\u2019t really have enough disdain for class enemies. Anybody what would knowingly go about and conspire to try to starve and deprive people of medical care and cut off our money, why they don\u2019t deserve anything but<\/em> our hate.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Right. Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And you must make a pledge with yourself<\/em> that you\u2019ve got enough commitment that no way with they ever get by with this shit. If we go on and build in peace and don\u2019t have any problem, fine. But if they hinder our progress and hurt any of our<\/em> people, you must count the number.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Calls and applause<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013(unintelligible word) some days and some nights I\u2019ve thought that caused me to step over the\u2013 the\u2013 the transition with the kind of goddamn hate and treachery that they were pulling against you. You can\u2019t imagine, unless you\u2019re setting on the other end of that radio, how to code and symbolize and try to strategize to fight motherfuckers when they\u2019ve got the upper hand and you\u2013\u00a0you\u2019re 6000 miles and they\u2019re over there, walking up and down the streets, meeting people face to face, and you\u2019ve gotta say things just right behind a radio. At times, I\u2019ve thought I\u2019d have a stroke and go over the\u2013 I had to lay down this afternoon. I\u2013\u00a0I wouldn\u2019t give two cents for my life. Then I thought of how much I love you and I willed and got up. The damn radio wouldn\u2019t work, nobody could get it to work, and I got up and laid my hand on the damned thing and it worked. So somehow, someway, keeps on keeping on, and somehow, someway, we will<\/em> keep on keeping on, and somehow we can\u2019t lose, because if there\u2019s five of us left, we can take care of the sons-a-bitches.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Calls and applause<\/p>\n

(tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> So let\u2019s keep our shit together here. Stanley Clayton. (tape edit) (Angry tone) They think it\u2019s the second chapter of the (unintelligible word) (Pause) (unintelligible word) so goddamn pissed, I\u2013 I want to stutter, I\u2019m so impressed with it, say, people in here don\u2019t know shit<\/em>. They don\u2019t care<\/em> about shit. Only thing they worry about is that Father could knock me dead. And I can too<\/em>, goddamn \u2018em. I\u2019ll knock \u2018em dead if they try to destroy this organization. (tape edit) \u2013use for it, and listen. Say, I can\u2019t really, I don\u2019t have time to read [Karl] Marx. I don\u2019t have time to get (unintelligible word) introduction to socialism. You elitist sons-a-bitches, you can listen at least. Can\u2019t read, I didn\u2019t learn to read, you could listen, everybody can listen. I break down that news so you can listen, if you want to listen. And all you can talk about is (unintelligible word), I\u2019d like to go down and beat the shit out of that woman right now, I\u2019d like like to beat the shit out of that woman, talking about Turkey and Kate and laying there sick, and wondering why she\u2019s sick. Piss<\/em> on her. I hope\u2013 I hope she develops a cancer on both<\/em> lungs. That\u2013 Oh, no, don\u2019t\u2013 not long, but if I did, she\u2019d have it. I\u2019d have to call her right back right then. The bitch\u2019s dying. She\u2019s spitting up blood. I hold my hostilities. But I do have an anger for her, \u2018cause she\u2019s been trouble ever since I\u2013 she been here. She got a whiny little feminine voice (mocking tone, baby talk). You know who I\u2019m talking about by the way she talks. (Pause) So should they. I (stumbles over words, unintelligible in high voice)\u2013 go back to the house thinking, I\u2019d like to kill you, bitch. (Pause) (Cries out) And fuck with me, and I will. (Pause) (Voice drops to intense anger) Goddamn people talking about turkey, when I don\u2019t even know whether I\u2019m gonna be alive the next day, and I don\u2019t give a fuck<\/em> about that, but that means something to my children, it means something to my grandchildren, and a lot of these people are my children who I\u2019ve taken by adoption. Makes me goddamn pissed<\/em> that I don\u2019t know their future, I can\u2019t even die<\/em> in peace. (mocking tone, baby talk) I do, I\u2013 I just miss my chicken. I miss my baked\u2013\u00a0by my\u2013 my cake and my pie, and back homer, I had so many nice things. (normal tone) I hope you rot. I\u2019ll be glad when they bury you, you fucker.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I won\u2019t think on it, but I\u2019ll be glad. (tape edit) \u2013bitch. I you don\u2019t know who I\u2019m talking about, you are dumb<\/em>. (Pause) Her name ain\u2019t Wyoming. (Pause) That goddamn now, if you don\u2019t know who I\u2019m talking about, you sure<\/em> as fuck must be deaf, dumb and blind. (Pause) You\u2019re one of the states of the union, and you stink<\/em>, bitch. (Pause) Goddamn nasty mouth people can never, never say anything sweet<\/em>. Always<\/em> bellyaching and always got a goddamn nasty word. Um-hmm [Yes]. Think about it, you think about it. (Pause) (mocking tone) So sedate and so nice. So pompous. (normal tone) I\u2019ve dropped over one pompous bitch. I don\u2019t care how many wigs you got, I can drop you over with fifty<\/em> wigs. (unintelligible phrase) It wouldn\u2018t do for me to get hostile. And I\u2019d wipe this fuckin\u2019 organization half out tomorrow night. (Pause) You got no right to feel bad, I\u2019ve been abused badly. Tim Stoen\u2013 and the idea of putting my through that shit. The idea of putting me through that shit. That\u2019s what he put me through: shit<\/em>. So much it puked<\/em> on him. Goddamn, I\u2019d like to cut<\/em> his throat. Miserable low goddamn prick, standing up like Mr. Straight. (mocking tone) I\u2019m on a collision course with the man I respected most in my life. (normal, but tight voice) Yeah, the man he respected most of his life, so much he made me go through that miserable shit. (Pause) He on a collision course with me, he\u2013 I hope\u2013 I hope he don\u2019t get over here. (short laugh) Comes to Georgetown, his ass is grass.<\/p>\n

Crowd: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. (Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He says he\u2019s gone come over<\/em> here. On a big vendetta now, big crusade to save his ass, then send me notes, think that\u2019s gonna buy me off. These fuckers gone miscalculate me, \u2018cause I\u2019m getting\u2019 madder. You can all tell, I\u2019m gettin\u2019 madder by the day. (Pause) Mis\u2013 just miscal\u2013 (voice fades). Miscalculate. You always think, well, send me little note, send me a note, drop me a note in the door, throw the door\u2013 the note in the door, San Francisco Temple, says, you know (unintelligible phrase) all you been, then get up and try to save his little white-pasty sick broken ass. Goddamn greasy rol\u2013 rolly-polly pudgy<\/em> bear, who in the fuck<\/em> would want to fuck<\/em> it. An alligator wouldn\u2019t want to fuck it. And I had to mess with it. I\u2019d liked to\u2019ve messed with him, I\u2019d like to fuck him with a goddamn dagger. (Pause) Now, what do you have to say about your hostility, (unintelligible word), \u2018cause he\u2019s not the only case. I had 16 sons-a-bitches in one day to save this organization. Pricks. That\u2019s the only way I could stop him. You say, you understand all this. You don\u2019t? Well, he was up wal\u2013 running up and down the uh, Santa Rosa streets while he was our trustee and the assistant district attorney of Mendocino County, dressed up like a goddamn woman. What the fuck did you do? (mocking tone) He said, I\u2019m not a homosexual, I\u2019m a transvestite. (unintelligible exclamation). (normal tone) I\u2019d rather have a homosexual, shit. Homosexual know what the hell they\u2019re doing, they can do it in their bed, but a transvestite, I can\u2019t deal with that<\/em> shit. Running up and down the streets. Fuck, what would ha\u2013 what would happen to this organization if he been run up and down the streets? Hmm? If they\u2019da found the assistant district attorney dressed up like a woman. And some of us know, goddamnit it, the old\u2013\u00a0old government board, you remember this shit. (Pause) Lovely. (mocking tone) He say, I\u2019m not a\u2013 I\u2013 I just have a desire to be in women\u2019s clothing. (Normal tone) Say, honey, I\u2019d much rather you had a desire to get fucked in the ass, \u2018cause you can get fucked in the ass in the night. This woman clothing shit can be bad\u2013 bad news. (Pause) (unintelligible word) if you want to wear \u2018em, you wear \u2018em. Just don\u2019t\u2013 don\u2019t\u2013 don\u2019t abuse it. Be sure they\u2019re all right when they get on the next day. Uh, having a bad bit of business, him running up and down the streets of Santa Rosa. And he did it every night for a whole goddamn (unintelligible word), running up and down the streets of Santa Rosa in the women\u2019s clothing. Lovely. That\u2019s the uh, Tim Stoen that some of you (unintelligible word) love, you thought I thought so much of him. Shit<\/em>. He was an attorney. You had to deal with the fucker. I\u2019m not an attorney, I\u2019m doctor, lawyer, everything else, but sometime you need specialist. And I had<\/em> him, what the hell you gonna do with him. And I had him, didn\u2019t I? Whole lotta folk we got, to put up with him, don\u2019t we?<\/p>\n

Scattered in crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Somebody made some comment about that today, I don\u2019t know who in the hell said it? (Pause) (unintelligible word), it\u2019s not important. So you feel bad about your life out there. I hope you don\u2019t feel too bad about your life, \u2018cause your life hasn\u2019t been half as bad as some others.<\/p>\n

End of tape.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tape originally posted May 2013<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To return to the Tape Index, click here. To read the Tape Summary, click here. Listen to MP3. Jones: (voice fades in) in every large city in the United States, they\u2019re now down to a bare […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":27291,"menu_order":655,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-27632","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27632","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=27632"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27632\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":128927,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27632\/revisions\/128927"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27291"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=27632"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}