{"id":28032,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:08","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28032"},"modified":"2019-02-22T16:57:34","modified_gmt":"2019-02-23T00:57:34","slug":"1057-4","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28032","title":{"rendered":"Q1057-4 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).
\nTo read the Annotated Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>.
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

FBI Catalogue<\/strong> Jones Speaking<\/p>\n

FBI preliminary tape identification note:<\/b> Q 1057 \u2013 all parts \u2013 labeled in part “7-8-73 #14”<\/p>\n

Date cues on tape:<\/strong> April 28, 1973 (Reference to resignation of FBI director L. Patrick Gray the previous night, and reminder of daylight savings time starting that night)<\/p>\n

People named:<\/strong><\/p>\n

People in attendance at Peoples Temple service<\/em>
\n 
\nPart I:<\/strong>
\nHarold Cordell
\n 
\nPart II:<\/strong>
\nDon Beck (by reference)
\nLovie de Pina
\nArchie Ijames (speaks)<\/strong>
\nNorman Ijames
\nC.J. Jackson
\nMelvin Johnson
\nIda May Lee (speaks)<\/strong>
\nDeanna Mertle
\nElmer Mertle
\nAurora Rodriguez
\nLaura Steferson (speaks)<\/strong>
\nOlivia Williams (speaks)<\/strong>
\nRuth Wilson
\nIda May Yates
\n 
\nBrother Brown
\nCarrie (either Carrie Langston or Carrie Corey)
\nSister Jewel (likely Jewel Simpson or Jewel Wilson)
\nKice (either Tom Kice or Robert Kice)
\nSister Mabel
\nSister Davis
\nBilly Smith
\n 
\nReverend Garrison, Baptist minister guest speaker (speaks)<\/strong>
\nSteven Michael [Williams?], son of Olivia Williams<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

Public figures\/National and international names:<\/em>
\n 
\nPart II:<\/strong>
\nAdolf Hitler
\nRudolf Hess, Hitler deputy
\nPayne (first name unknown), associate of Hitler
\n 
\nAbraham Lincoln, U.S. president
\nRichard Nixon, U.S. president
\nSen. Edward Kennedy (D-Massachusetts)
\nL. Patrick Gray, acting head of FBI (by reference)
\nJohn Dean, counsel to President Nixon (by reference)
\n 
\nDunlap\/Dunlop, Boston Globe<\/em> reporter arrested at Wounded Knee
\nRandolph Hearst, newspaper publisher (by reference)
\nAngela Davis, member of Communist Party, black activist
\nMartin Luther King, slain civil rights leader<\/div>\n<\/p>\n

Bible verses cited:<\/strong><\/p>\n

(Editor’s note<\/strong>: The verses below appear in order of biblical reference, not as they appear in Jim Jones\u2019 address. For a complete scriptural index to the sermons of Jim Jones, click here<\/a>.)<\/i><\/p>\n

    Reference to Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 13 and 14)<\/p>\n

    \u201cWe\u2019ll quietly take our little trip through the wilderness and leave<\/em> Pharaoh\u2019s Egypt, Pharaoh\u2019s Washington, Pharaoh\u2019s America.\u201d (Book of Exodus)<\/p>\n

    \u201cI covered and cared for you and overcame the problem, and then you have other gods before me. You should be ashamed of yourself.\u2026 Don\u2019t let them talk about any other God. I will have no Gods before me.\u2026 Don\u2019t let anyone else be before me, because I\u2019m the one that will marshal our resources together, I will marshal our strength. It\u2019s me that will unite us if we have our whole attention undivided upon me. \u2026 So don\u2019t let any traitor name any other God. I am God and there is no other God before me!\u201d (Deuteronomy 5:7, \u201cThou shalt have none other gods before me.\u201d See also Deuteronomy 14:2, Psalm 33:12, and Psalm 105:43.)<\/p>\n

    \u201cThe Jews<\/em> said they were God\u2019s chosen people. The Bible said they was.\u201d (Deuteronomy 7:6, \u201cFor thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.\u201d)<\/p>\n

    \u201cWhen we have to go, we have to move as one people, at Jerusalem, as it was when Jesus [Jeshua] warned them there, you\u2019ve got to be as one people at Jerusalem.\u201d (Ezra 3:1, \u201cAnd when the seventh month was come, and the children of Israel were in the cities, the people gathered themselves together as one man to Jerusalem.\u201d)<\/p>\n

    \u201cNow you say what you want to about me, you talk about me, you can just say any old ugly thing you want to, but if you try to hurt what I have built up for my children, because I\u2019ve come without money or price.\u201d (Isaiah 55:1, \u201cHo, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.\u201d)<\/p>\n

    \u201cYou choose this day who you\u2019re going to serve, what idea you\u2019re going to serve, because you cannot serve two masters. The one you\u2019re going to hate, the other you\u2019ll love, and I say you\u2019re gonna cleave to one or push away from the other.\u201d (Matthew 6:24, \u201cNo man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.\u201d See also, Luke 16:13)<\/p>\n

    \u201cWhere two or three agree as touching anything, it shall be done and we will move together.\u201d (Matthew 18:20, \u201cFor where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.\u201d)<\/p>\n

    \u201cI forgive more than anybody you ever heard of, including your God in the Bible.\u201d (Matthew 18:21-22, \u201cThen came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.\u201d)<\/p>\n

    \u201cIf they want to hear us sing, then let them come over and hear the light of the world!\u201d (John 9:5, \u201cAs long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.\u201d See also, Matthew 5:14, John 1:9, John 3:19, John 8:12, John 11:9, and John 12:46.)<\/p>\n

    \u201cWe want to remember us in life, because he came to give us life and life more abundantly.\u201d (John 10:10, \u201c\u2026I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.\u201d)<\/p>\n

    \u201cPaul talked about dung. He talked about the worst word in the Yiddish language, Hebrew language, Paul said, \u2018I counted all dung that I might apprehend the Christ vision.\u2019\u201d (Philippians 3:8, \u201cYea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ.\u201d)<\/p>\n

    \u201cI\u2019ll tell you your thoughts and know your thoughts and intent.\u201d (Hebrews 4:12, \u201cFor the word of God \u2026 is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.\u201d)<\/ol>\n

    Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

    (Editor’s note<\/strong>: This tape was transcribed by Kristian Klippenstein. The editors gratefully acknowledge his invaluable assistance.)<\/em><\/p>\n

    This tape includes segments of two addresses by Jim Jones. The first few minutes of the tape is the conclusion of an undated Temple service in San Francisco, and while much of its includes undistinguishable conversation after the service while tape is still recording, it is one of the few times in the tape collection that Jim Jones actually ends an address.<\/p>\n

    The balance of the tape is an address from April 1973, and \u2013 reflecting the turmoil in the country as the Watergate constitutional crisis began to unfold \u2013 Jones\u2019 talk is less religious and more political, especially as the tape open. Jones has apparently read an article about Hitler\u2019s Germany in the 1930s, an article which concludes that the same thing will happen to the United States within five years. \u201cNow this is not Jim Jones anymore,\u201d he comments as he reads, \u201cthis is what I\u2019ve been telling you for years, and here it is.\u201d The current scandal isn\u2019t the only one that Nixon has been involved in \u2013 although the resignation of his Attorney General, L. Patrick Gray, shows this one to be more serious than previous ones \u2013 but \u201cthe scandals were very similar just before Hitler took power in Germany.\u201d<\/p>\n

    Jones offers his own scenario to the crisis with a prediction that will become increasingly familiar to the Temple membership: the U.S. military will taker over the government for the good of the country and, citing similar motivations, will herd people of color and political differences into concentration camps<\/a>. There are other manifestations of the coming garrison state and stifling of dissent which recur throughout the address, including the arrest of a Boston Globe newsman for the simple act of covering what was going on at Wounded Knee in South Dakota.<\/p>\n

    But that is not the fate of Jones\u2019 followers. They need to know about these events so that they can escape and be free, and they will be able to, if the people in the congregation support him. But that means financial support. \u201c[T]his will be the life of you and your children. If you don\u2019t protect this, you\u2019re going to lose your life.\u201d<\/p>\n

    The appeal for financial support returns several times in the service. Later, he asks people to sacrifice as he has sacrificed, to sell their jewelry and turn over the proceeds to the church, or to donate the items for a church raffle. There are other creative ways to raise money as well, such as the Temple\u2019s own plans to rent out its building to allow for the filming of a murder scene for a movie. That might seem strange, but the truth is, \u201cI said anything I got is for rent for my people. And that\u2019s just exactly what I meant, to get you where I want to get you free, I\u2019ll rent anything I got, honey, and you can think what you want to think.\u201d<\/p>\n

    Later still, he correlates the amount of the gifts they give to the level of protection they\u2019ll receive, \u201cand the more you give in faith, the more you protect yourself. That\u2019s the answer. So let\u2019s add to our faith because our money has every time been intrinsically<\/em> involved with our health.\u201d More forebodingly, he says the only people who have died in the Temple are the ones \u201cwho have held onto money, or they\u2019ve held onto food, they held onto something they didn\u2019t want to give up.\u201d<\/p>\n

    The actual distribution of the raffle tickets, as well as the numerous collections taken during the service, end abruptly with a tape edit, which is characteristic of most Temple tapes.<\/p>\n

    The other danger of enslavement facing them is one many of his members bring to his Temple, which is religion itself. They read their Christian Bibles \u2013 which he describes as a \u201cslave book\u201d \u2013 and they immerse themselves in mysticism, but whatever form it takes, it is \u201ccounterinsurgent.\u201d His message for them, however, is \u201callow no one here to praise anything else, or talk about anything else, except what I am.\u201d<\/p>\n

    Jones is even more explicit in his claims to divinity shortly after this statement. The people who believe in the Sky God are the ones who believe in things they\u2019ll never see \u2013 such as what happens in the afterlife \u2013 and they are the same ones who believe that his political prophecies won\u2019t come true either. \u201cLet them believe that these things will never happen. Let them<\/em> die in the gas chambers if they want to, even though I want to save everyone,\u201d he says. \u201cThat\u2019s their choice. But don\u2019t let them be in here holding us back by looking back to other gods\u2026<\/p>\n

    \u201cYou demand that they only speak of one God, God Jim,\u201d he continues emphatically. \u201cYou will let them speak of only one God, the savior that\u2019s here talking<\/em> to you. Don\u2019t let them talk about any other God. I will have no Gods before me.\u2026 I am God and there is no other God before me!\u201d<\/p>\n

    Jones addresses the subject of disbelievers \u2013 and sometimes the persons of the disbelievers themselves \u2013 at several junctures. Early in the tape, he calls out a man in the balcony and says he notices when people don\u2019t clap. Using biblical language which he elsewhere disparages, he challenges everyone in the congregation to \u201cchoose this day who you\u2019re going to get with \u2026 who you\u2019re going to serve, what idea you\u2019re going to serve, because you cannot serve two masters.\u201d And the choice is one he professes not to care much about, since \u201cwe can get along without you but you can\u2019t get along without us.\u201d And they\u2019ll find out the hard way when they leave, he adds at another point. \u201cRemember [that] when the cancers come.\u201d<\/p>\n

    Jones refers to his followers at one point as \u201cniggers,\u201d and tells them, that has nothing to do with skin color. They\u2019re all niggers \u2013 black, white, Chicano \u2013 because the system disrespects them. He knows that some people don\u2019t like the term \u2013 and especially having the term applied to them \u2013 but he does it because \u201csome of you folk think you\u2019re white.\u201d He\u2019ll quit using it when they\u2019re all free, he promises, but he also adds \u2013 to applause and cheers \u2013 \u201cyou better not call us nigger outside.\u201d<\/p>\n

    There is little discussion about death in this address, although there is much conversation about caskets and funerals, especially in the context of how much money some people spend on the dead rather than on the living. As for him, he wants as much of his body as possible to be used for organ donation, and the rest turned into fertilizer for a garden. For people who don\u2019t want to follow that example, he does request that they be buried in a simple pine box.<\/p>\n

    But the fact is, he adds, the people of Peoples Temple dwell on life, not death. And one of the reasons for that is that the members of Peoples Temple don\u2019t die; only former members or those people who were never exposed to his teachings will suffer that fate. He says that he himself wants to live a long time so he can take care of his people \u2013 \u201cmost of you don\u2019t need to worry, \u2018cause I\u2019m gonna be around to see you through\u201d \u2013 and when he does die, he has several successors lined up.<\/p>\n

    Jones also notes that he doesn\u2019t do funerals at other churches, despite numerous invitations. He needs to spend the time with his own followers, he says, but just as important, there are no other churches who subscribe to his principles, so it would be hypocritical to bury their dead. \u201cThe only way you can go is if they take me preaching first,\u201d he says. The same proscription applies to the Temple choir. \u201cIf they want to hear us sing, then let them come over and hear the light of the world!\u201d<\/p>\n

    He segues from the enslaving messages of other churches to the more familiar complaints about the pastors of those churches, with their wives\u2019 teas and their anniversaries and their fancy cars. And that\u2019s not Peoples Temple is about. \u201c[W]e\u2019re gonna be consistent. We may not be everything that you\u2019d like us to be, but we\u2019re honest, the most perfect people that you\u2019ll want to see, the most pure ministry that\u2019s ever walked on earth, the most upright, the most holy, the most just, the most socialistic. It\u2019s the most beautiful ministry you\u2019ve ever seen.\u201d<\/p>\n

    The final minutes of the service are devoted to healings. As is Jones\u2019 standard procedure, he calls out people from the audience, reveals information about them that only they know, and then cures or prevents an incapacitating or fatal illness.<\/p>\n

    FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

    Date of transcription: 6\/21\/79<\/p>\n

    In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n

    On June 16, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B108-30. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n

    JIM JONES commenting on Watergate and comparing the United States with HITLER\u2019s Germany. JONES states, \u201cI am God and there is no other God before me.\u201d<\/p>\n

    \u201cIn the next few days we\u2019re gonna get some land south of the equator \u2026 we\u2019ll have to move as one people \u2026 and they\u2019re not going to stop us if they try we\u2019ll raise so much hell they\u2019ll hear us all the way to the White House \u2026 try to take one little thing away from us and see if we don\u2019t fight like hell.\u201d<\/p>\n

    JONES concludes by cataloging all the good things he has done for his \u201cchildren.\u201d<\/p>\n

    Differences with FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

    The summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.<\/p>\n

    Tape originally posted January 2012<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

    Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read the Tape Transcript, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1, Pt. 2). To read the Annotated Tape Transcript, click here. To return to the Tape Index, click here. FBI Catalogue Jones Speaking FBI preliminary […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":27996,"menu_order":709,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-28032","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28032","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=28032"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28032\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":86127,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28032\/revisions\/86127"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27996"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=28032"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}