{"id":28109,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:23","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28109"},"modified":"2021-03-27T14:57:56","modified_gmt":"2021-03-27T21:57:56","slug":"269-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28109","title":{"rendered":"Q269 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

FBI Catalogue<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Jones Speaking<\/p>\n

FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>\u201c6\/14\/78 T-1 Wed News\u201d<\/p>\n

Date cues on tape:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Tapes contents inconsistent with label; reference made to child born July 7, 1978, seemingly recent event. Likely mid-July 1978<\/p>\n

People named:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Public figures\/National and international names:<\/em>
\nVladimir Lenin, father of Russian Revolution
\nMartha Peterson, US Embassy official in Moscow (by reference)
\nGeorge C. Scott, American film actor<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

Temple adversaries; members of Concerned Relatives:<\/em>
\nDebbie Layton Blakey
\nJim Cobb
\nTim Stoen
\n 
\nKathy Hunter of Ukiah Daily Journal <\/em>(by reference)<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

Temple members not in Jonestown\/ not on survivors\u2019 or death lists:<\/em>
\nKaren Baker
\nDebbie Curtin
\nChris Murrell
\nMike Simon
\nCurtis Smith<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

Public figures\/National and international names:<\/em>
\nJonestown residents, full name unknown:<\/em>
\nCarrie (either Langston or Corey) (speaks)<\/strong>
\nGarrett
\nBrother Johnson (numerous men named Johnson, likely Earl or Robert)
\nLarry (speaks)<\/strong>
\nRegina (several, including Regina Duncan, who is identified)<\/p>\n

Jonestown residents:<\/em>
\nTraytease Arterberry
\nJack Beam (speaks)<\/strong>
\nJuanita Bright
\nYolanda Brown
\nRuby Carroll
\nDiane Casanova
\nGene Chaikin
\nRobert Christian (speaks)<\/strong>
\nSharon Cobb, aka Sharon Jones
\nJulie Cordell, aka Julia Guevara
\nOrde Dennis
\nEbony Duncan (by reference)
\nRegina Duncan, aka Regina Jackson
\nSharla Evans
\nClifford Gieg
\nShirley Gieg
\nDavid Goodwin
\nJuanita Green (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMary Griffith
\nDorothy Lesheene Harris, aka Shajhuanna Harris
\nFlorence Heath
\nMarthea Hicks (speaks)<\/strong>
\nPat Houston
\nLee Ingram
\nRonnie James
\nMarvin Janaro
\nDenise Johnson
\nJames Johnson
\nJoe Johnson
\nJoyce Johnson
\nLaura Johnston
\nBilly Jones
\nJohnny Moss Brown Jones (speaks)<\/strong>
\nKaren Layton
\nTony Linton
\nWayne McCall
\nRose Marie McKnight (speaks)<\/strong>
\nSebastian McMurry
\nWillie Malone
\nAlfreda March (speaks)<\/strong>
\nIrene Mason
\nBeverly Mitchell
\nHerbert Newell
\nZelline O\u2019Bryant
\nRobert Paul
\nRosa Peterson
\nLois Ponts
\nChris Rozynko (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMichael Rozynko, aka Mike Lund
\nPauline Scott (speaks)<\/strong>
\nJewell James Simpson
\nEugene Smith
\nClevyee Sneed
\nWillie Sneed
\nCleave Swinney
\nHelen Swinney
\nCharlie Touchette (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMichelle Touchette
\nRichard Tropp
\nKeith Wade
\nJerrica Walker
\nBrenda Warren
\nCheryl Wilhite
\nJanilah Wilhite (by reference)
\nKenny Wilhite
\nJoe Wilson
\nJohnnie Mae Yates (speaks)<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

Bible verses cited:<\/strong> \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 None<\/p>\n

Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

(<\/em>This tape was one of the 53 tapes initially withheld from disclosure.)<\/em><\/p>\n

This Peoples Rally from the summer of 1978 includes many elements of a community meeting which the people of Jonestown had come to expect by then. There are agricultural reports and discussions of infrastructure \u2013 in this case, the electrical demands and capabilities for Jonestown \u2013 as well as reports on praises and warnings to individuals, usually reflecting their work ethics and attitudes, but sometimes focusing on behavioral issues. There are a couple of confrontations which Jim Jones must adjudicate. Finally, there is a call from an anonymous voice in the crowd noting that it\u2019s past midnight and pleading for a simple solution \u2013 however temporary \u2013 so they can move on.<\/p>\n

Even as Jones leads some of the mundane discussions, he periodically detours onto other subjects which reflect larger, more fundamental concerns about the community. These are also the subjects which the FBI found of interest in its investigation of the Temple and underlay the agency\u2019s early decision to withhold the tape from public disclosure. A report about bean harvests, for example, leads to a discussion about how to keep birds out of the fields, which in turn leads to a suggestion to hunt down some of the birds and include them in the community\u2019s diet, which leads to a conversation about hunting in general. At that point, Jones reminds everyone that they are not to reveal to anyone that there are guns in Jonestown. \u201cYeah, we have no weapons. Anybody ever ask if you have guns? No. No. Guyana\u2019s licensed some, plus we do not admit that to anybody coming in. Guyana doesn\u2019t care, but it could hurt our people back there, because they say we\u2019re an armed camp. \u2026 So you see no guns, we don\u2019t have them, we obviously don\u2019t see them.\u201d<\/p>\n

His digression into this particular charge made by Jonestown\u2019s \u201ctraitors\u201d \u2013 the most recent of whom was Debbie Layton Blakey, a defection over which he is still smarting \u2013 leads him to coach the community members on other answers they should give, should anyone ask them. There is no censorship of mail, either going out or coming in. They don\u2019t have beatings or whippings. They don\u2019t bury people in boxes, and in fact, there is no box. There is no P.A. system that reaches the fields. They do have protein at every meal \u2013 Blakey\u2019s assertion that they only ate rice had been especially stinging \u2013\u00a0and families have their own homes.<\/p>\n

Jones acknowledges that there is a woman who has been \u201cpermanently isolated from this community\u201d for reasons that anyone, including authorities in the U.S., would agree was appropriate, \u201cbut we don\u2019t talk about that either.\u201d<\/p>\n

The safest avenue, he cautions the crowd before him, is not to talk to any visitors about anything, because \u2013 despite their outward appearance \u2013 they could be reporters or CIA agents. And if anyone violates the rules, Jones says he\u2019ll find out about it and vows to hunt them down, wherever they might be.<\/p>\n

A later discussion about the equipment needed to stabilize and upgrade electrical service reveals some of the decision-making processes in Jonestown, and how a question about someone\u2019s judgment can lead into a confrontation on his overall character. Faced with a complication on an order for a generator that required a quick decision, Chris Rozynko opted to cancel. On this night, he is before the Jonestown community, forced to defend that decision.<\/p>\n

The fundamental problem, as his critics tell him, is that he made a decision on his own involving finances, one that went counter to what the Finance Committee and Jones himself had directed. Rozynko stands by his own decision: unanticipated problems arose, a decision had to be made, and he could not reach his superior, so he acted. One unidentified woman in particular makes several accusations against him, but even when she is discredited, Rozynko remains on the floor.<\/p>\n

At one point, an unidentified male reminds everyone that the \u201claw\u201d of Jonestown requires Rozynko\u2019s partner to be on the floor with him. Moreover, the role of the partner is to lead the criticism against him. The partner\u2019s initial stab at Rozynko proves insufficient. A woman in the crowd reminds her that she has been much harsher on other occasions \u2013\u00a0 \u201cI\u2019ve heard you be awful rough on people, and you\u2019re being awful gentle\u201d \u2013 and even Rozynko joins in. \u201cI really don\u2019t appreciate this from you, so I\u2019d appreciate it if you would get your<\/em> shit together about me<\/em>. If you have anything to say, say it now, okay?\u201d The partner then responds in kind.<\/p>\n

This law, and its implementation, stems from Jones\u2019 echoing of what he says is a Communist tenet:\u00a0 \u201cLenin abolished all marriage and abolished the entire family<\/em> unit, because it was self-serving, cover ass, and was anti-revolutionary, and I\u2019m suspicious<\/em> of any companion that doesn\u2019t immediately get on their<\/em> feet and tear<\/em> into their companion.\u201d<\/p>\n

There is no resolution regarding the presumed authority in Rozynko\u2019s decision, and Jones moves on to other problems, including two instances during which women got into physical altercations. Jones has the same reaction to each \u2013 \u201cWe have said absolutely no violence, and then goddamnit, I mean no violence,\u201d he says about the first; \u201cWe will not tolerate hitting, from anybody,\u201d he says about the second \u2013 but only on the former does he make the night\u2019s single reference to death, on a seemingly-throwaway remark: \u201cIf we can\u2019t reason our way, then I just as soon we all stepped over the other side.\u201d<\/p>\n

FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Date of transcription: 7\/3\/79<\/p>\n

In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n

On May 30, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B93-15. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n

Quotes and instructions by JIM JONES to his people in Guyana.<\/p>\n

JONES was talking about shooting some birds that were destroying their crops when he said, \u201cWe can use our licensed guns, we have no weapons if anybody ever asks you, if we have guns, no-no. Guyana has licensed some, but we to not admit that to anybody coming in\u2026\u201d \u201cSo you see no guns, we don\u2019t have them\u201d.<\/p>\n

JIM JONES then goes on to give instructions to his people in the event they receive any visitors, \u201cIf asked, did you get your mail, you say yes and if you answered and did some one help you write it, you answer, yes you answered and no help was needed to write it\u2026\u201d \u201cYou better not say anything else now\u2026\u201d \u201cSome of you, like the end of the world, then make a mistake\u2026\u201d \u201cWe don\u2019t beat people\u2026\u201d \u201cWe do not let people know that we have someone presently locked up\u2026\u201d \u201cWe do not have sermons on the air\u2026\u201d \u201cWe don\u2019t bury babies\u2026\u201d \u201cYou better get this in your brains\u2026\u201d \u201cYou better not complain, damn you, not one\u201d\u2026 \u201cI\u2019ll haunt your ass wherever you hide.\u201d \u2026 \u201cI found one of them suckers in West Germany and nobody is hearing from these days either\u201d\u2026 \u201cNow you seniors better wake up and you better give the right answer\u201d \u201cI better not have nobody, when somebody comes and asks you how you fell say, \u201cI fell off the top bunk of the bed, we\u2019ll see if you can fall off two bunks next time.\u201d<\/p>\n

The rest of the tape concerns basically electrical problems that they were having at the PT in Guyana and personality conflicts among themselves.<\/p>\n

Differences with FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

The summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted June 2012<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read the Tape Transcript, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1, Pt. 2). To return to the Tape Index, click here. FBI Catalogue\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Jones Speaking FBI preliminary tape identification note: \u201c6\/14\/78 T-1 Wed News\u201d Date cues […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":27996,"menu_order":130,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-28109","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28109","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=28109"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28109\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":109278,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28109\/revisions\/109278"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27996"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=28109"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}