{"id":28145,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:29","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28145"},"modified":"2023-09-20T17:15:10","modified_gmt":"2023-09-21T00:15:10","slug":"384-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28145","title":{"rendered":"Q384 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

FBI Catalogue:<\/b> Jones Speaking<\/p>\n

FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>Labeled in part “10\/13\/78 10\/14\/78”<\/p>\n

Date cues on tape:<\/b> Before, during and after October 16, 1978 (specific)<\/p>\n

People named:<\/b><\/p>\n

Public figures\/National and international names:<\/i>
\nW.E. B. duBois
\nMarcus Garvey
\nPatrice Lumumba
\nSteve Biko, South African activist
\nVictor Jara, Chilean poet and composer
\nPaul Robeson
\nAdolf Hitler
\nVladimir Lenin<\/div>\n

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Richard Nixon, former president
\nJohn F. Kennedy, former president
\nLyndon B. Johnson, former president
\nDavid Frost, British TV talk host and interviewer
\nVictor Lasky, Nixon hagiographer
\nJohn Dean, counsel in Nixon White House
\nCharles Colson, counsel in Nixon White House
\nGeorge McGovern, Democratic Party presidential candidate in 1972
\nAlger Hiss, convicted Soviet spy and Nixon antagonist
\nE. Howard Hunt, convicted Watergate burglar
\nDon Freed, scriptwriter and author
\nMark Lane, Temple attorney
\nJoe Mazor, detective who seemingly defected to Temple\u2019s viewpoint (by reference)
\nMarilyn Kircher (phonetic), Jones\u2019 childhood girlfriend
\nCommander Clarence Price, Guyana Defense Force head<\/div>\n

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Former Temple members:<\/i>
\nChris Lewis<\/p>\n

Temple adversaries; members of Concerned Relatives:<\/i>
\nLiz Forman
\nDeanna Mertle, aka Jeannie Mills
\nElmer Merle, aka Al Mills (by reference)
\nGrace Stoen
\nTim Stoen<\/p>\n

Jonestown residents:<\/i>
\nJames Baisy
\nMary Black
\nBreidenbach family
\nTerry Carter
\nEvelyn (most likely Evelyn Marie Eichler)
\nJulius Evans
\nMary Griffith
\nRicky Johnson (by reference)
\nMarianita Langston
\nKaren Tow Layton
\nTeri Smart<\/div>\n

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Bible verses cited:<\/b><\/p>\n

\u201c[I]t\u2019s quite obvious that I have gone through the valley of the shadow, and returned. And I\u2019ve been through the valley of the<\/p>\n

shadow of death so many times in nearly a half century, that you wouldn\u2019t even dream.\u201d (Psalms 23:4, \u201cYea, though I walk<\/p>\n

through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u00a0 <\/b><\/p>\n

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Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

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This tape consists of a series of messages that Jim Jones \u2013 and one unidentified male in one segment \u2013 gives to the Jonestown community during a series of perceived crises that rocked the Jonestown community in mid-October 1978. Whether Jones addresses the issues of low productivity, people contemplating suicides, runaways, or emigration to the Soviet Union \u2013 and whether Jones discusses these matters in conversational, deliberative or excited tones \u2013 it is apparent that the calm and steady experiment in socialism has spiraled out of his control, at least for the duration of this tape. Some of the reprimands along the way are out of context (who ran away? what precipitated his demand to stay away from his cabin? what is going on that he feels compelled to order people to smile?), but the overall sense is of a man trying to treat a deep gash with a single Band-Aid.<\/p>\n

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The first segment begins with a discussion of the troubles in neighboring Venezuela, but Jones reassures his followers, if things get out of hand, they can escape to the Soviet Union. \u201cThey\u2019ll take us.\u201d Jones then speaks about the community\u2019s enemies, and reports what Joe Mazor \u2013\u00a0a detective who was hired by the Concerned Relatives but who defected to the Temple\u2019s side when he saw the determination and love in the people\u2019s faces \u2013 says about their enemies, such as Tim and Grace Stoen, Deanna and Elmer Mertle, and other members of \u201cthe conspiracy.\u201d<\/p>\n

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But much of the first segment is an address to people who are discouraged. Jones tells them to take it easy, to let security \u201crove constantly\u201d without interference, and if anyone is entertaining thoughts of suicide, to \u201cplease give your name in the radio room, because it\u2019s a grave and dangerous thing that you\u2019re doing to yourself.\u201d While he wishes he could help them out of this life, he says it\u2019s important to find a way past their depression. He recommends mood elevators and other medication (in a later segment, he speaks of tranquilizers). He recommends that people write him notes \u2013 messages in the suggestion box or personal notes for his eyes only \u2013 so he can counsel them. Whatever it takes, he says, he wants to \u201cstop good socialists from laying down their lives.\u201d<\/p>\n

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He makes his strong argument against suicide, for several reasons: they dissipate the energy that could be directed towards their enemies; the same energy drain affects his ability to perform miracles; they will set back their souls 500 generations (a reference he repeats in a later segment); but most of all, he asks the residents of Jonestown to imagine how their enemies would laugh. \u201cWould you want to give them the satisfaction that you\u2019d taken your own life? Let them smear in the press that you hated socialism, that you didn\u2019t believe in equality and justice? Would you want that written? That\u2019s the way they\u2019d write your epitaph. Not that you were a hero, but that you did not like brotherhood socialism, and you preferred capitalism.\u201d He returns to it again and again, not only in this segment, but throughout the tape: \u201cDon\u2019t be so silly as to lay your life down, to give the fascists a laugh, and the newspapers a headline. That is silly, and it is a waste of your whole potential.\u201d He says the same for himself: \u201cI never wanted to give the enemy, capitalism, racist pigs like Ku Klux Klan white bullying cops\u2013 I don\u2019t want to give them the satisfaction of killing myself.\u201d<\/p>\n

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Jones diverts into a melancholy aside about his own life, a heartache involving his \u201conly girlfriend\u201d that he says shaped the rest of his life. \u201c[O]ne thing that I learned from that experience, that people only use<\/i> you, until they become communist. And I\u2019m glad<\/i> for that experience \u2026 It made me trustworthy. Never again to fall for anyone, to only be in love with you as a family, and communism above all.\u201d<\/p>\n

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In the second segment, Jones laments that a girl didn\u2019t listen to what he had said the previous night about suicide and had tried to do something. She is now on a medication that makes her \u201cmore tranquil.\u201d What\u2019s worse, her betrayal of the cause stemmed from a problem in a \u201cpersonal romance.\u201d Once she gets better and proves herself responsible, Jones says, \u201cwe will not interfere with your sick love affairs.\u201d<\/p>\n

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Jones reminds his listeners that they have done what Marcus Garvey and W.E.B. duBois and previous Back-to-Africa movements only dreamed of doing, \u201ca group of people leaving America and shaking the dust of capitalism off their feet.\u201d As he exhorts them to come out of a seemingly community-wide depression, he tells them to remember the black heroes who have died or were unjustly imprisoned, to remember the starving babies of the world. Their ultimate goal, he says, is to live as they do in the USSR (or, alternatively, to live in the USSR itself), because \u201c[i]f we help the Soviets, if we help socialism, we can change all of that \u2026 [and] defeat capitalism.\u201d<\/p>\n

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Things have become much more tense by the third segment, and Jones is much more personally combative. Some unidentified person(s) ran away, and Jones says he\u2019s calling in the police and the military, because he\u2019s \u201cnot going to fool with this.\u201d In his agitation, he talks about the Guyana jails, which \u201care not as nice as ours\u201d and where \u201cthey mean business.\u201d<\/p>\n

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He reverts to a more familiar theme of miracles cures which he has performed in recent days, and the safety the people of Jonestown have from snakes and wild animals of the surrounding jungle. But the runaways are what loom most in his mind, especially what they represent for the \u201closs of production\u201d in the fields.<\/p>\n

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The fourth segment is short and direct: People need to stay away from his cabin, or \u201c[y]ou might find yourself in a lot of trouble that\u2019s meant only for mercenaries.\u201d The usual sign-off of sending love to his followers is missing. Instead, he warns of \u201ctrou-ble, trou-ble.\u201d<\/p>\n

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The fifth segment opens with a male reporting in a calm voice about the miracles Jones has performed, adding a testimony of a miracle he himself witnessed a week earlier. Echoing a sentiment Jones had expressed earlier in the tape, the unidentified male says, \u201cI said all this to point out that things just don\u2019t happen, they happen just. And we really have to remember who and what Dad stands for.\u201d Jones then signs on to report two more miracles and to warn people to watch out for the \u201cfull moon.\u201d<\/p>\n

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Jones begins the sixth message with a demand that people smile at each other, encourage each other, give folks \u201ca friendly greeting and a pat on the shoulder occasionally.\u201d He also warns the women who go to Georgetown not to be fooled when men approach them on the street. You may think you\u2019re attractive to them, Jones says, but the truth is, they\u2019re looking to marry you so they can emigrate to the US through an American wife. \u201cThat\u2019s the only reason any Guyanese would have interest in you.\u201d<\/p>\n

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Jones is calmer in the seventh message, as he outlines alternatives for the future of Jonestown residents. They can go to the USSR, even if they don\u2019t know the language. There may even be some ambiguously-defined scholarships to allow them to attend Soviet universities. Jones also offers the Jonestown settlement as a place people can stay here \u201cforever\u201d after the rest of the community migrates to the Soviet Union, although he adds his opinion that separating oneself from Jones and his miracles would be \u201cfoolhardy.\u201d He even suggests that people could return to the US, if they chose, although he can\u2019t understand that either. \u201cThere\u2019s no problem about that. If you really want to live in Babylon, and face a nuclear hell, [and] concentration camps<\/a> \u2026 that\u2019ll be your privilege and your prerogative.\u201d<\/p>\n

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In the eighth segment, Jones takes pains to reassure the people about his health. He admits his maladies, but says he is recovering. \u201cI want to tell you, those that worry the most about my health, I will long<\/i> outlive you.\u201d He adds that he wouldn\u2019t have brought them to this place in order to leave them.<\/p>\n

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The last segment is a reading of the news, and may represent the end of an earlier tape over which the series of bulletins and announcements was made. After a few notes about an Austrian reporter kicked out of the Soviet Union and a Greek oil tanker than ran aground off the Irish coast, Jones reads a long analysis about the rehabilitation of Richard Nixon, as evidenced by publication of his memoirs, favorable news articles and invitations to speaking engagements. We should welcome this, Jones reads. \u201cKeep Nixon under wraps? Hell, no. We should be demanding that the genie be let out of the bottle, so people can really see how wicked the system of USA imperialism is.\u201d<\/p>\n

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The sign-off indicates that the news segment wasn\u2019t far removed from the rest of the tape, though. He urges more and greater production, asking people to do \u201cin eight hours what you did in ten.\u201d They need to make their goals, he says, \u201cso we can get our people out<\/i> of the state of horror that they\u2019re in.\u201d<\/p>\n

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FBI Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

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Date of transcription: 6\/14\/79<\/p>\n

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In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n

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On June 4, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B93-115. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n

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JIM JONES reading announcements, makes the comment, \u201cSTOEN, the MYRTLE\u2019s and FOREMAN [Liz Forman] murdered CHRIS LEWIS.\u201d JONES later talks of suicide and states, \u201cIf you have feelings of suicide, we will help you with a tranquilizer \u2026 Don\u2019t give the fascist\u2011capitalists a laugh \u2026 Don\u2019t give the enemy satisfaction.\u201d<\/p>\n

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Later JONES states \u201c\u2026 If we find someone has run away, we\u2019ll call the Guyana Defence Force and they\u2019ll give you 30 to 40 lashes.<\/p>\n

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Thereafter follows announcements concerning medical \u201cmiracles\u201d performed by JONES and immigration to the Soviet Union as well as the daily news.<\/p>\n

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Differences with FBI Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

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While this summary meets the FBI\u2019s needs, there is one statement which seems misleading.<\/p>\n

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The cause of the deaths in Jonestown was a mixture of potassium cyanide and tranquilizers, the latter to help the body relax as the poison took effect. The sentence, \u201cIf you have feelings of suicide, we will help you with a tranquilizer \u2026\u201d could be interpreted to mean that Jones was encouraging suicides even before November 18, 1978.<\/p>\n

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This is not the case, at least in this tape. To the contrary, this tape includes several messages imploring people not to despair, not to surrender hope. If they feel like committing suicide, he says, we can help you get past those feelings through the use of tranquilizers. You may feel doped for a few days, and shouldn\u2019t operate heavy machinery, but people should do whatever they can to get past their suicidal thoughts.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted April 2002<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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