{"id":28219,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:39","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28219"},"modified":"2022-02-24T11:44:36","modified_gmt":"2022-02-24T19:44:36","slug":"641-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28219","title":{"rendered":"Q641 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><strong>Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<p>To read the Tape Transcript, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27513\">click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q641-side-a.mp3\">Side 1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q641-side-b.mp3\">Side 2<\/a>).<br \/>\nTo return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>FBI Catalogue<\/b>: Tapes Not Summarized<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>One 60 min Compact cassette \/ April 12 1978 Meeting #7<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Date cues on tape:<\/b>\u00a0February 16, 1978 (Edith Roller\u2019s journal)<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>People named:<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;text-indent:-125px;\"><i>Public figures\/National and international names:<\/i><br \/>\nGuyana Prime Minister Forbes Burnham<br \/>\nViola Burnham, wife of Forbes Burnham<br \/>\nShirley Field-Ridley, Guyana Minister of Information<br \/>\nHamilton Green, Guyana Minister of Health and Labor<br \/>\nFrank Hope, Guyana Minister of Finance<br \/>\nDesmond Hoyte, Guyana Minister of Development<br \/>\nHubert Jack, Guyana Minister of Energy and Natural Resources<br \/>\nVibert Mingo, Guyana Minister of Home Affairs and Immigration<br \/>\nPtolemy Reid, Deputy Prime Minister of Guyana<\/p>\n<p>Angela Davis, university professor, black activist<br \/>\nGeorge Jackson, imprisoned Black Panther<\/p>\n<p><i>Jonestown residents not on death or survivors list:<\/i><br \/>\nRogers<\/p>\n<p><i>Jonestown residents, full name unknown:<\/i><br \/>\nAl (several in Jonestown)<br \/>\nAnderson (probably Samuel Anderson)<br \/>\nConnie<br \/>\nDianne (several in Jonestown)<br \/>\nHelen (several in Jonestown) <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nJan (either Jann Gurvich or Jan Wilsey) (speaks)<br \/>\nJeffrey (several in Jonestown)<br \/>\nJohn (several in Jonestown) <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nJoyce (probably Touchette)<br \/>\nJudy (probably Ijames)<br \/>\nLisa (probably Layton)<br \/>\nPatty (either Parks or Cartmell)<br \/>\nRuby (several in Jonestown) <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nSharon (either Sharon Amos or Sharon Swaney)<br \/>\nShirley (several in Jonestown)<br \/>\nStanley (either Stanley Gieg or Stanley Clayton)<br \/>\nWanda (several in Jonestown)<\/p>\n<p><i>Jonestown residents:<\/i><br \/>\nGeraldine Bailey <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nRheaviana Beam<br \/>\nJulia Birkley <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nRegina Bowser <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nTim Carter<br \/>\nEugene Chaikin<br \/>\nRobert Christian<br \/>\nMary Ella Cook <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nTammi Delihaussaye <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nMarshall Farris<br \/>\nViola Forks <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nDavid George<br \/>\nLee Ingram <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nJessie Johnson<br \/>\nTommie Keaton<br \/>\nChuck Kirkendall<br \/>\nPaul McCann<br \/>\nChristine Miller <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nAnnie Moore<br \/>\nEura Moses<br \/>\nEsther Mueller<br \/>\nJane Mutschmann<br \/>\nPat Patterson<br \/>\nVersie Perkins<br \/>\nMichael Prokes<br \/>\nBob Rankin<br \/>\nMary Rodgers (elder of the two)<br \/>\nRoseann Ruggiero<br \/>\nDoug Sanders<br \/>\nLarry Schacht<br \/>\nRichard Tropp<br \/>\nCharlie Touchette<br \/>\nMike Touchette<br \/>\nGary Tyler<br \/>\nMary Walker<br \/>\nCarolyn Young<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><b>Bible verses cited:<\/b><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;\">\u201cWe all have the same mind. Let this mind be in you which was in me.\u201d (Philippians 2:5, \u201cLet this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus.\u201d)<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The tape is the first in a series of four (continuing on <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28220\">Q 642<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28221\">Q 643<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28222\">Q 644<\/a>) of a White Night \u2013 the most serious White Night since the previous September, Jim Jones says at one point in <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28220\">Q 642<\/a> \u2013 in February 1978.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Even so \u2013 and as is the case with most of the tapes in this collection \u2013 the meeting is already underway when the recording begins. In the context of what follows, the proceedings have been going on a while. Jones has talked extensively about the news of the day, about the benefits of life in Jonestown, and about the gifts of protection and socialist virtue which he has bestowed upon his followers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">As he has in a few \u2013 but only a few \u2013 other taped meetings, Jones has been drinking alcohol, and in sufficient quantity that his speech is affected at times. It is also apparent he is the only one in the crowd who has been allowed to do so.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The tape opens with a woman named Viola Forks standing before the community to account for herself. She has a hard time concentrating on the questions that Jones and others ask her, and cries softly when she is flustered. While there are a few voices in the crowd that defend her, most of the others \u2013 including Jones \u2013 seem angry with her. They bring up recent incidents which may or may not have led to her being called before the people of Jonestown, but they also hearken back to transgressions that occurred in the States. Even her explanation of the things that happened months or even years earlier stir the antagonism of some. \u201c[Y]ou\u2019re so ready to defend yourself \u2026 you can think of something happening in Los Angeles and Berkeley and every place else,\u201d one unidentified male shouts at her, but when she\u2019s asked to recall only one of Jones\u2019 virtues that have been discussed that night, she can\u2019t do it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Forks finds herself in a deeper and deeper hole as the meeting goes on, and Jones is the one leading the criticism. When she finally recalls something he said earlier that night, he mocks the paucity of detail. When she offers one of the standard praises of the leader, he asks if it\u2019s the first time she\u2019s thought about it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Even her daughters participate in the public humiliation. When her 15-year-old points out that Viola \u201cdidn\u2019t take on no responsibilities in the States either,\u201d Jones praises the girl\u2019s strength and suggests that the mother could take pointers from her. A few minutes later, a younger daughter compares Viola to Jones and finds the mother lacking \u2013 \u201cshe has said that she couldn\u2019t think \u2018cause she was under pressure, I think that she should stop and think what she is saying first and think of the pressure that you [are] going through right now when we [are] in this White Night\u201d \u2013 and the community echoes Jones\u2019 applause.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Viola is finally excused after she answers one question \u2013 \u201cWhat are you going to do if [the fascists] come in?\u201d \u2013 by saying she would fight. The question is at the core of the White Night.\u00a0 The Jonestown leadership has learned that the Guyanese government is split in its support of the community, and while they are still in favor with the prime minister and his heir apparent, lesser officials \u2013 including at least one who has control over the customs and immigration issues which are so important for Jonestown\u2019s survival \u2013 are against them. In addition, several Guyanese Cabinet members, allies and antagonists alike, are out of the country, and one of their enemies could take the opportunity to attempt an armed takeover of the American encampment. \u201c[It] is a possibility tonight,\u201d Jones says. \u201cIt\u2019s a possibility the fascists are in control.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The threat affects everything. Jones declares on several occasions that they are \u201cunder military security\u201d because they are in \u201ca war.\u201d The sleeping schedule of the seniors is dictated by security, the arrival and departure of community members in the meeting is dictated by security, the urgency in repairing the public address system is dictated by security. It also affects what they\u2019ll do the very next day. \u201cTomorrow may find us around the circle, if the news does not pick up better,\u201d Jones warns, \u201cwe may have to go with cutlasses in hand and weapons to protect our fields.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Much of the meeting \u2013 both on this tape and throughout the night \u2013 is spent \u201cin strategy.\u201d During the early part of the evening, the alternatives under consideration to passively awaiting an invasion, include finding a place in the jungle to hide, allying themselves with Amerindian tribes, heading for the border, and defending their community with arms. Most of the conversation here focuses on the last option: Jones asks about manning the gate into Jonestown, blocking the road, and using their crane or bulldozer to disrupt invading forces. \u201c\u2019Cause if they come through that gate, it\u2019s over,\u201d Jones says. \u201cIt\u2019s all over.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The plans are being made on the spur of the moment and in an atmosphere of duress, and the articulation of them seems vague and incomplete. The proposals to harvest enough food to sustain the community either in battle or on the run, for example, do not seem workable. In general \u2013 perhaps because their leader has been drunk for much of the night, perhaps because the conversation about the threat doesn\u2019t yet involve anyone other than the Jonestown leadership, perhaps because it\u2019s still early and the gravity of the threat hasn\u2019t sunk in,\u00a0 perhaps because the plans for survival are not well formed, or perhaps because everyone is tired \u2013 the crowd expresses little enthusiasm or even interest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The option of resisting this threat through an act of revolutionary suicide does not arise in this tape \u2013\u00a0it does later in the evening \u2013 and the subject of death comes up only near the end of this tape. In the course of his repeated efforts to keep people from falling asleep, Jones follows up one cry \u2013 \u201cStay awake, goddamnit. Son of a bitch\u201d \u2013 with a warning: \u201cYou may be all <i>dying<\/i> someday, very soon.\u201d A moment later, he refers to a woman as being \u201cthe one protest against the cup that would\u2019ve delivered us from our misery,\u201d likely a reference to previous plans for mass suicide.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">For the moment, though, Jones talks about their survival. He describes the struggle of socialists around the world, and includes themselves in that number. \u201cWhen you live, it\u2019s a struggle, and you have to fight, it\u2019s a struggle. Socialism should not come easy when people have died all over the goddamn world for it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">This meeting continues on tape <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28220\">Q 642<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>FBI Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Date of transcription: 3\/15\/79<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">On March 5, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B47-86, and nothing was contained thereon which was considered to be of evidentiary nature or beneficial to the investigation of Congressman RYAN.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Differences with FBI Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">There is nothing to compare between the two summaries, since the FBI did not write anything for this, or 64 other tapes which bear the notation \u201cTapes Not Summarized.\u201d These tapes seems to have little on them which the FBI could use for its purposes of investigating crimes arising from the Jonestown tragedy, but then again, that describes many other tapes as well. The difference seems to be that one or two FBI agents catalogued this set of tapes \u2013 as evidenced by the typewriter used in writing the reports \u2013 and that generally, the transcriptions were made early in the process, before someone may have asked for greater detail in the reports.<\/p>\n<p><b>Tape originally posted April 2006<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read the Tape Transcript, click here. Listen to MP3 (Side 1, Side 2). To return to the Tape Index, click here. 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