{"id":28223,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:40","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28223"},"modified":"2014-04-01T22:16:01","modified_gmt":"2014-04-01T22:16:01","slug":"645-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28223","title":{"rendered":"Q645 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>. To listen to MP3, click here<\/a>.
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

FBI Catalogue<\/b>: Tapes Not Summarized<\/p>\n

FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong><\/b>One Certron C-60 \/ “Jim Jones Cecil Williams”<\/p>\n

Date cues on tape:<\/b>\u00a0Spring 1976 (Reference to support for Fresno Four reporter Bill Farr)<\/p>\n

People named:<\/b><\/p>\n

Peoples Temple members <\/i>
\nMarie Decker
\nAgnes Paulette Jones (by reference)
\nJames Warren Jones, Jr. (by reference)
\nLew Eric Jones (by reference)
\nMarceline Jones (by reference)
\nStephan Gandhi Jones (by reference)
\nStephanie Jones (died in 1959) (by reference)
\nSuzanne Jones (by reference)
\nTimothy Glenn Tupper Jones (by reference)<\/div>\n

<\/p>\n

Public figures\/National and international names: <\/i>
\nAmerican Indian Movement activist Anna Mae Pictou Aquash
\nAmerican Indian Movement activist Dennis Banks
\nKamook Banks, wife of Dennis Banks
\nAngela Davis, University of California professor who was fired over her membership in the Communist Party<\/div>\n

<\/p>\n

Newsman Bill Farr
\nFormer President Richard Nixon
\nSchrimerhorn [phonetic, first name unknown], columnist in San Francisco Examiner
\nNAACP Executive Director Roy Wilkins<\/p>\n

Adolf Hitler
\nMartin Niemoller, German pastor in World War II<\/p>\n

Cecil Williams, Methodist minister in San Francisco (speaks)<\/b><\/div>\n

Bible verses cited:<\/b>
\n \u201cJesus Christ \u2026 said, we were our brother\u2019s keeper, and God is no respecter of persons.\u201d (Reference to Genesis 4:9, \u201cAnd the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother\u2019s keeper?\u201d; also Acts 10:34, \u201cThen Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.\u201d) <\/div>\n

<\/p>\n

Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

This tape is a recording made off the air of an interview between Jim Jones and Cecil Williams, the minister of Glide Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco. The interview was also recorded by Temple members present at the studio as Part 3 of Q 683<\/a>, but this recording is of better quality with fewer interruptions.<\/p>\n

Williams apparently hosts a regular television program, and in this edition, the two men talk about the political lightning rods of the day \u2013 such as Dennis Banks, Angela Davis and Bill Farr \u2013 and the role of support that Peoples Temple has given in their causes. Jones emphasizes that the support didn\u2019t come just from him, but from the whole congregation. The membership figure he gives includes 8000 in San Francisco, 10,000 in L.A., and an unknown number in Central Valley towns of Fresno and Bakersfield.<\/p>\n

Closer to home, Jones talks about the assistance that Peoples Temple gives on a regular basis to seniors in San Francisco\u2019s Tenderloin \u2013 an area that Williams also ministers to \u2013 and the drug treatment programs of the church. In the course of answering a question about care for animals, he segues into a description of Temple health care services for all people.<\/p>\n

Speaking about the Peoples Temple \u201cagricultural mission,\u201d Jones says the government of Guyana has granted the Temple \u201cseveral thousand acres,\u201d and that the Temple is already bringing in tons of food to feed the local population and help alleviate poverty. He also says the project is employing about 200 people, implying \u2013 although not saying specifically \u2013 that the employed are Guyanese.<\/p>\n

The two men talk about the \u201chealing ministry\u201d \u2013 something they share \u2013 and the cures they have seen in their congregations. \u201cWe\u2019ve had similar remissions,\u201d Jones says. \u201cThere\u2019s a tremendous dimension that we\u2019re unfamiliar with\u2026 undoubtedly there\u2019s a dimension there that the responsible<\/i> church does take over.\u201d At the same time, Jones emphasizes the need for professional medical care. \u201cThere\u2019s a place indeed for a responsible and sane spiritual healing. It must be in conjunction with medical science, because we know there\u2019s no panacea\u2026 When we find someone who thinks they have a healing, we say, get<\/i> to the doctor and verify it.\u201d<\/p>\n

Near the end of the interview, Williams asks Jones about the Temple\u2019s money. Jones replies that people are generous when they see the results of the Temple\u2019s work.<\/p>\n

Much of the interview, though, consists of Williams praising Jones as \u201cunique,\u201d \u201cindescribable,\u201d and \u201cvery important.\u201d He describes himself as \u201camazed\u201d by the work that Jones and his church has done. The Methodist minister concludes the interview lauding Jones with these words: \u201cHere\u2019s a man, I have to tell you, that I think is \u2026 a genius, I think he\u2019s a prophet. He\u2019s charismatic. He\u2019s one of our great leaders. I\u2019m glad to be associated with you. Brother, we gone stay together, \u2018cause I know, if I stay with you, we gone make it. We\u2019ll bring about justice.\u201d<\/p>\n

FBI Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

Date of transcription: 3\/15\/79<\/p>\n

In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n

On March 6, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B47-90, and nothing was contained thereon which was considered to be of evidentiary nature or beneficial to the investigation of Congressman RYAN.<\/p>\n

Differences with FBI Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

There is nothing to compare the two summaries, since the FBI did not write anything for this, or 64 other tapes which bear the notation \u201cTapes Not Summarized.\u201d These tapes seems to have little on them which the FBI could use for its purposes of investigating crimes arising from the Jonestown tragedy, but then again, that describes many other tapes as well. The difference seems to be that one or two FBI agents catalogued this set of tapes \u2013 as evidenced by the typewriter used in writing the reports \u2013 and that generally, the transcriptions were made early in the process, before someone may have asked for greater detail in the reports.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted April 2006<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read the Tape Transcript, click here. To listen to MP3, click here. To return to the Tape Index, click here. FBI Catalogue: Tapes Not Summarized FBI preliminary tape identification note: One Certron C-60 \/ “Jim […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":27996,"menu_order":427,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-28223","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28223","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=28223"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28223\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":59575,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28223\/revisions\/59575"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27996"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=28223"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}