{"id":28251,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:44","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28251"},"modified":"2022-06-10T09:35:44","modified_gmt":"2022-06-10T16:35:44","slug":"693-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28251","title":{"rendered":"Q693 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

FBI Catalogue:<\/strong> Radio Transmissions<\/p>\n

FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>One Tracs 60\/ Patch 9\/19\/78, Suzanne 10\/17\/78<\/p>\n

Date cues on tape:<\/strong> Conversations consistent with dates notes on tape box<\/p>\n

People named:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Temple adversaries; members of Concerned Relatives:<\/em><\/p>\n

Part 1<\/strong>
\nMike Cartmell
\nSuzanne Cartmell (speaks)<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/p>\n

Temple members not in Jonestown:<\/em><\/p>\n

Part 2<\/strong>
\nJean (likely Jean Brown) (speaks)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Part 3<\/strong>
\nSandy (likely Sandy Bradshaw) (speaks)<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/p>\n

Likely coded names:<\/em><\/p>\n

Part 2<\/strong>
\nBetty
\nCecilia
\nCharlie (could be Charlie Touchette)
\nMrs. Clark
\nDarrin
\nDonna
\nGordon (could be reporter Gordon Lindsay)
\nJosephine
\nMelinda
\nNathan
\nMr. Parks
\nSally
\nTheresa
\nWilson<\/p>\n

Part 3<\/strong>
\nAlena
\nBetty
\nHilda
\nIrene
\nJerry
\nMel
\nPreston
\nRodney
\nRudy<\/div>\n<\/p>\n

Jonestown residents:<\/em><\/p>\n

Part 1<\/strong>
\nChaeoke Jones (by reference)
\nLew Jones
\nJim Jones Jr. (by reference)
\nMarceline Jones (speaks)<\/strong>
\nStephan Jones (by reference)
\nTim Tupper Jones (by reference)<\/p>\n

Part 2<\/strong>
\nSarah (likely Sarah Tropp) (speaks)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Part 3<\/strong>
\nSarah (likely Sarah Tropp) (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMike (likely Mike Touchette) (speaks)<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/p>\n

Bible verses cited:<\/strong> None<\/p>\n

Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

(Note:<\/strong> This tape was transcribed by Vicki Perry. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/i><\/p>\n

This two sides of this tape are unrelated, with the first side being much more significant.<\/p>\n

On side one, Marceline Jones speaks with her adopted daughter Suzanne on the telephone, about a month before the deaths in Jonestown. Suzanne has been alienated from her family \u2013 especially her father \u2013 for some time when the conversation takes place, yet there is a sense of attempted reconciliation, or at least overtures to continue conversations, throughout most of it. Nevertheless, the conditions which Suzanne has laid down (Marceline calls them as an \u201cultimatum,\u201d and Suanne does not challenge the description) and Marceline\u2019s demand that Suzanne respect her father (which she refuses to do) ultimately lead to what turned out to be the final parting of the two women.<\/p>\n

This was the second of two conversations known to have taken place between the two women during Marceline’s trip to the United States during the fall of 1978. The first contact<\/a> occurred about a month earlier, on September 20, 1978.] <\/em><\/p>\n

The conversation has a rocky start. Suzanne has wanted the meeting to be face to face, and says there are things she can\u2019t talk about over the phone. Marceline is equally insistent that \u201cI cannot meet with you when you are putting your dad down.\u201d To this \u2013 and at several other junctures in the conversation \u2013 Suzanne says she\u2019s ready to cut off the conversations forever.<\/p>\n

Marceline accepts each iteration of her daughter\u2019s decision \u2013 even as she tries to renegotiate \u2013 but does make a plea that Suzanne not \u201cally yourself with our enemies\u201d or tell stories which would hurt the family. Suzanne\u2019s reply to these entreaties is inconsistent: she doesn\u2019t meet with the enemies, and yet \u201cthere is no other side\u201d for her to join up with; she doesn\u2019t lie, and yet \u201cI can change my story\u201d if Marceline agrees to her request to send her brothers back from Jonestown.<\/p>\n

And yet Marceline is equally combative. She confronts Suzanne with some of the stories she\u2019s heard, which Suzanne not only denies, but describes as \u201cthe very reason I\u2019m gonna cut it off.\u201d<\/p>\n

The conversation ends much as it began. Suzanne has the final word: \u201cI gave you an ultimatum about meeting this week one to one at a certain place. You didn\u2019t want that and you gave me your reason for it, which is acceptable to me now, okay? I understand it and I\u2019m not going to fuss about it. \u2026 For your reason and for my reason, we\u2019ll just end it here.\u201d Marceline accepts it \u2013 she has no choice \u2013 but says in farewell, \u201cVery painful.\u201d<\/p>\n

The FBI description of one side of the tape as \u201cRoutine radio transmissions\u201d slides over the numerous difficulties its contents present: It does consist of two conversations between two female Temple leaders in the States and (likely) Sarah Tropp in Jonestown,\u00a0 but little can be gleaned from it otherwise. Much of the conversation is in code, the radio transmission is remarkably poor \u2013 so much so that the stateside members of the Temple comment upon it \u2013 and the clearer voices at the recording end often chatter over the few discernible words that do come through.\u00a0 Given the date of the recording \u2013 in September 1978 \u2013 and the fact that Temple operators used a code word for the National Enquirer<\/em> (as well as possibly referring to a reporter, Gordon Lindsay by his first, uncoded name), the prospective article from the Enquirer<\/em> may been the subject under discussion, but without additional context or discovery of a Temple radio codebook from this period, the reference is conjectural at best.<\/p>\n

FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Date of transcription: 3\/8\/79<\/p>\n

In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n

On March 5, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B62-10. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n

Side “A” Routine radio transmissions. (Handwritten note adds date of “9\/19\/78?”)<\/p>\n

Side “B” Telephone conversation between mother and daughter \u2013 private. (Handwritten note adds date of “10\/17\/78?”)<\/p>\n

This tape was reviewed, and nothing was contained thereon which was considered to be of evidentiary nature or beneficial to the investigation of Congressman RYAN.<\/p>\n

Differences with FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Other than the fact that the phone call represents probably the last communication that the Jones family had with their adopted daughter Suzanne, the summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted January 2012<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read the Tape Transcript, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1, Pt. 2). To return to the Tape Index, click here. FBI Catalogue: Radio Transmissions FBI preliminary tape identification note: One Tracs 60\/ Patch 9\/19\/78, […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":27996,"menu_order":463,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-28251","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28251","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=28251"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28251\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":114904,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28251\/revisions\/114904"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27996"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=28251"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}