{"id":28266,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:46","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28266"},"modified":"2017-01-14T10:58:25","modified_gmt":"2017-01-14T18:58:25","slug":"721-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28266","title":{"rendered":"Q721 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><strong>Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<p>To read the Tape Transcript, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27560\">click here<\/a>. Listen to <a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q721 (Side A).mp3\">MP3<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI Catalogue<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Miscellaneous<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>One Scotch C-90\/ (illegible line) in envelope<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date cues on tape:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Likely December 1977 (one month after Charles Garry\u2019s November 1977 statement that he has been to paradise, commercials for Christmas)<\/p>\n<p><strong>People named:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left: 125px; text-indent: -125px;\"><em>Public figures\/National and international names:<\/em><br \/>\nRichard Nixon, former U.S. President<br \/>\nRev. Sun Myung Moon, religious leader<br \/>\nShirley MacLaine, American actress<br \/>\nCharles Garry, Temple attorney<br \/>\nPhil Tracy, investigative reporter for New West<br \/>\nRonn Owens, KGO radio host <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nLarry Houghton (likely a producer at KGO)<\/p>\n<p><em>Temple adversaries; members of Concerned Relatives:<\/em><br \/>\nSherwin Harris <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nSandy Rozynko <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nNeva Sly <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nMarvin Swinney <b>(speaks)<\/b><br \/>\nMickey Touchette <b>(speaks)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><em>Jonestown residents:<\/em><br \/>\nLiane Harris (by reference)<br \/>\nMarceline Jones<br \/>\nAnnie Joyce Rozynko (by reference)<br \/>\nChristian Rozynko (by reference)<br \/>\nMichael Rozynko (by reference)<br \/>\nMark Sly<br \/>\nHelen Swinney (by reference)<br \/>\nCleave Swinney (by reference)<br \/>\nTimothy Swinney (by reference)<br \/>\nDonald Swinney (by reference)<br \/>\nJackie Swinney (by reference)<br \/>\nJoyce Touchette (by reference)<br \/>\nTouchette family (by reference)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bible verses cited:<\/strong> \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0None<\/p>\n<p><strong>Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A month after Peoples Temple attorney Charles Garry was on a morning radio program in San Francisco \u2013 during which time he described Jonestown as a paradise \u2013 the program host interviews an ex-member of the Temple who has relatives in Guyana. The host, Ronn Owens, refers to the different perspective \u201cas kind of a point\u2013counterpoint to Charles Garry.\u201d During the call-in portion during the second half of the program, several other former members call in. Like Marvin Swinney, the show\u2019s main guest, they are all critical of Jim Jones and concerned about the welfare of their relatives.<\/p>\n<p>Swinney begins by specifically challenging Garry\u2019s description of Jonestown as paradise. He talks about Temple members being overworked, underfed, and beaten, just as he was beaten before he left the Temple. He also speaks about the difficulties he and his wife had in the first weeks after defecting, of being harassed and threatened, of being denied access to their son who had remained with the Temple, of the late night phone calls and visits from Temple members. \u201cIt\u2019s not easy to become an ex-member,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>He says there is no formal organization to help disaffected members who leave, although there is a support system.<\/p>\n<p>One recurring theme \u2013 both in this program and apparently from the call-in portion of the previous interview with Charles Garry \u2013 is the difficulty which most family members have in getting it touch with their relatives. Despite Garry\u2019s protests to the contrary, attempts to place calls to Guyana through his office or at the Temple itself are met with excuses of priority radio traffic, sunspots, bad weather conditions, anything that prevents the relatives from getting through. \u201cYeah, I could understand it, if it happened once or maybe even twice,\u201d Swinney says, \u201cbut <em>nobody<\/em> has been able to talk to anybody down there yet.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Owens volunteers to field letters from Temple relatives who wish to speak to their relatives, with the promise that he will go over to Garry\u2019s office when the time comes and set up some mechanism so the calls will go through. As the calls rolls in from people with experiences similar to Swinney\u2019s, Owens becomes more impassioned by the task. \u201c[W]hat I would like to see is the follow-through,\u201d he says near the end of the program, \u201cthat, not only the calls go through, but that there be no Peoples Temple members around at the time. As I said, let me handle it from that standpoint. I doubt very, very seriously that they\u2019re going to try and hit me with sunspots or the like. If they do, I will raise holy hell right here on the air.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Throughout the program, Owens and the Temple\u2019s critics alike speak up for Garry himself, describing him as a respectable man. As one caller puts it, \u201cI don\u2019t think it\u2019s because he is being deceptive as much as that he is being deceived.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Most of the calls appear to be legitimate, but one does clang falsely. A woman calls to say she had been in Jonestown for a few months before she came back, but her descriptions of the place are different from anyone else\u2019s, even those of Jones\u2019 harshest critics. She says the photos of the flowers and beautiful plants used to lure people down there came from someplace other than Jonestown. She also claims that, when she planned her escape, \u201cI ran for blocks in order to get a phone call back over to the States to my family.\u201d As everyone who was asked to comment on this assertion verified, there were no phones in Jonestown, and buildings weren\u2019t laid out in block grids.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Date of transcription: 3\/15\/79<\/p>\n<p>In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n<p>On March 6, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B62 #38. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n<p>Side A: KGO Radio Broadcast of RON OWENS interviewing former People\u2019s Temple member MARVIN SWEENEY (phonetic). After the interview of SWEENEY he was terminated, several former member of the People\u2019s Temple called RON OWENS to express their opinions of the People\u2019s Temple.<\/p>\n<p>Nothing was contained thereon which was considered to be of evidentiary nature or beneficial to the investigation of Congressman RYAN.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Differences with FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.<\/p>\n<p><b>Tape originally posted May 2013<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read the Tape Transcript, click here. Listen to MP3. To return to the Tape Index, click here. 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