{"id":28273,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:47","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28273"},"modified":"2021-10-21T16:52:04","modified_gmt":"2021-10-21T23:52:04","slug":"734-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28273","title":{"rendered":"Q734 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>, Pt. 2<\/a>).
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>FBI Catalogue<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jones Speaking<\/p>\n

FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>One Tracs 90\/ \u201cPeoples Ralley\u201d<\/p>\n

Date cues on tape:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0April 10, 1978 (Barbara Walker in box, noted in April 10 entry of Edith Roller Journal<\/a>)<\/p>\n

People named:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Public figures\/National and international names:<\/em>
\nChe Guevara, Latin American Revolutionary
\nGeorge Jackson, imprisoned Black Panther<\/div>\n<\/p>\n
<\/div>\n
Charles Garry, Temple attorney<\/div>\n<\/p>\n
Peoples Temple members not in Jonestown:<\/em>
\nDavid Wise, Temple associate minister in L.A.<\/div>\n<\/p>\n
Temple adversaries; members of Concerned Relatives:<\/em>
\nTim Stoen<\/div>\n<\/p>\n
Temple members not on death or survivors\u2019 lists:<\/em>
\nJennifer May<\/div>\n<\/p>\n
Jonestown residents, full name unknown:<\/em>
\nBruce (likely Bruce Oliver, could be Bruce Turner)
\nGeorge (several in Jonestown between 17 and 22)
\nKaren (several in Jonestown between 17 and 22) (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMother of Larry Jones, name unknown
\nRicky (several in Jonestown)<\/p>\n

Jonestown residents:<\/em>
\nIda Albudy
\nLiane Amos, aka Liane Harris
\nShan Anderson, aka Shantell Anderson
\nMarice Anderson
\nElaine Backmon, aka Viola Elaine Backmon
\nJerry Baisy (speaks)<\/strong>
\nShirley Baisy
\nEric Baker
\nJair Baker (speaks)<\/strong>
\nRory Bargeman
\nBen Barrett
\nJoe Beam, aka Joseph Helle III
\nElsie Bell
\nEthel Belle
\nLena Benton
\nRonnie Berryman
\nMichaeleen Brady
\nJohnny Moss Brown (speaks)<\/strong>
\nYolanda Brown
\nDante Carroll
\nRandy Carroll
\nJocelyn Carter, aka Jocelyn Brown
\nTyrone Cartmell, aka Tyrinia Tyrone Williams
\nGeorgia Catney
\nGene Chaikin
\nVernetta Christian
\nSandy Cobb, aka Sandy Jones (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMark Cordell
\nMichael Felton
\nMary Ford
\nRobert Franklin (speaks)<\/strong>
\nKim Fye
\nDavid George
\nClifford Gieg
\nStan Gieg
\nWillie Graham
\nEmmett Griffith
\nGloria Griffith, aka Gloria Warren
\nMary Griffith
\nTom Grubbs (speaks)<\/strong>
\nAaron Hendricks
\nRomaldo Hicks
\nKathy Jackson
\nEyvonne James
\nMargaret James
\nTad Jensen, aka Tad Schroeder
\nGarnett Johnson (speaks)<\/strong>
\nJames Johnson
\nJoAnn Johnson, aka Willa JoAnn Johnson
\nTinetra Johnson, aka Tinetra Le Dese Fain (speaks)<\/strong>
\nLaura Johnston (speaks)<\/strong>
\nBilly Jones (speaks)<\/strong>
\nEarnest Jones
\nJim Jones Jr.
\nLarry Jones (speaks)<\/strong>
\nLew Jones
\nMarceline Jones (speaks)<\/strong>
\nStephan Jones (speaks)<\/strong>
\nTimothy Borl Jones, aka Tim Night
\nFannie Jordan
\nCarol Kerns
\nPenny Kerns (speaks)<\/strong>
\nApril Klingman
\nDee Dee Lawrence
\nKaren Lendo
\nJerry Livingston (speaks)<\/strong>
\nVincent Lopez (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMike Lund, aka Michael Rozynko
\nPatty McCoy, aka Patty Dennis (speaks)<\/strong>
\nL.V. McKinnis
\nRaymond McKnight
\nRene McMurry, aka Deidre Rene McMurry
\nSebastian McMurry
\nWillie Malone (speaks)<\/strong>
\nAnita March
\nCallie Mitchell
\nLeola Morehead
\nLydia Morgan, aka Lydia Atkins
\nKay Nelson
\nBea Orsot (speaks)<\/strong>
\nTracy Parks
\nTom Partak, aka Tom Smith (speaks)<\/strong>
\nRosa Peterson
\nRuthie Quinn
\nKenny Reed
\nJackie Rochelle
\nGloria Rosa
\nLaurence Schacht (speaks)<\/strong>
\nRose Shelton (speaks)<\/strong>
\nDon Sly, aka Ujara Sly
\nJeff Smith
\nOllie Smith
\nNovella Sneed
\nStephanie Swaney
\nCleave Swinney
\nArmella Tardy
\nVennie Thompson (speaks)<\/strong>
\nAl Touchette
\nCharlie Touchette (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMike Touchette
\nJanet Tupper, aka Janet Lenin
\nRita Tupper, aka Rita Lenin
\nBarbara Walker (speaks)<\/strong>
\nMary Walker
\nJanice Warren
\nErma Winfrey
\nLisa Winston, aka Alizzia Winston<\/div>\n<\/p>\n

Bible verses cited:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 None<\/p>\n

Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

(Note:<\/strong> This tape was transcribed by Richmond Arquette. It was also reviewed by Don Beck, who identified several additional voices. The editors gratefully acknowledge their invaluable assistance.)<\/em><\/p>\n

(This tape follows immediately after Q 600<\/a>. Our thanks to Matthew Carey for dating this tape.)<\/em> <\/p>\n

This tape consists of two parts: a short segment of Tom Grubbs speaking with Barbara Walker, who has been placed in an isolation box for disciplinary reasons; and a late night meeting in Jonestown during which both praises and \u2013 more notably \u2013 disciplinary notices are read and acted upon. The violence contained here also make this one of the most difficult tapes in the Jonestown oeuvre.<\/p>\n

In the first, short portion, Barbara Walker \u2013 who was accused of harassing and threatening several Jonestown residents \u2013 denies that she is hostile. The recording of her voice is muffled, though, as it is recorded with her in the box. Tom Grubbs, who not only constructed and operated the sensory deprivation box but also made this portion of the recording, says that she can emerge when she\u2019s ready to admit her problem. Until then, as Jim Jones says in the second portion of the tape, she is to be kept in a \u201cno capacity\u201d status, a reference to periodic uses of the isolation box and\/or incapacitating drugs used on trouble-makers and dissidents. Grubbs does apologize, however, for the kids who threw dirt clods at the box, and says \u201cit\u2019s really unfair and unthoughtful.\u201d<\/p>\n

The second part of the tape is of a much longer meeting during which Jim Jones describes crimes and unacceptable social behavior against the community. In several cases, unidentified people mete out physical punishment against the perpetrators for those transgressions:<\/p>\n

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\u2022 A woman is slapped for failing to work hard enough, for talking too much and being bossy, for being late to Socialist Class, and \u2013 as Jones says \u2013 for \u201cgiving a black woman back talk.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2022 Confronted by his young accuser \u2013 and after having been caught in the act by security \u2013 teenager Jerry Baisy is beaten a half dozen times in the course of the tape for the crime of child rape.<\/p>\n

\u2022 Accused of shoving one woman, and mouthing off to three other women, including Marceline Jones, Willie Malone is beaten three times, though not nearly as severely as Baisy.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

The crowd is as angry as Jones throughout the meeting, and even though the leader does not personally participate in the physical aspects of the punishments, he condones it, especially that of the \u201cchild molester,\u201d orders it once or twice \u2013 \u201cWell, I guess he needs a little more\u201d \u2013 and even directs how the beating should be administered (\u201cHit him in the balls. Hit him in the balls! Hit him!\u201d).<\/p>\n

There are no alternatives for the transgressors but to accept the punishment. As one of the early beatings of Baisy takes place, Jones points out that Jonestown doesn’t have to worry about being called to account for this treatment. Not only does the Temple\u2019s lawyer Charles Garry think this technique was \u201cwonderful,\u201d Jones says, but \u201cGuyana will back us up in it.\u201d In a way, as he and another man tell Baisy, the young man is lucky he is where he is, because in Georgetown, they would \u201c[h]ang you until you\u2019re dead.\u201d Moreover, there is no statute of limitations on rape. \u201cIn other words,\u201d Jones adds, \u201canytime he wants to act up, somebody can report him, and he can be hung.\u201d In case Baisy didn\u2019t understand the implications of that, Jones\u2019 lieutenant spells it out for him: \u201cSo that means if you think about leaving, you ain\u2019t going nowhere.\u201d<\/p>\n

But Jones also uses the punishments to question \u2013 and correct \u2013 people\u2019s motivations for the acts they commit. In response to a question from Jones\u2019 lieutenant, Baisy says he committed the rape because he is a homosexual, and in the context of the question, it seems like the right answer. But Jones presses him \u2013 \u201cwouldn\u2019t it be much, much nicer to be an open homosexual than to bother little children?\u201d \u2013 and then adds, \u201cIt\u2019s never the homosexuals who molest children. It\u2019s the so-called heterosexuals.\u201d<\/p>\n

The leader\u2019s confrontation with Willie Malone is more taunting, perhaps because of the young man\u2019s insult of Marceline, the mother of the movement. Jones asks Malone if he\u2019s willing to die that night and \u2013 more specifically \u2013 if he\u2019s willing to reach into a box containing a poisonous frog, one touch of which would result in death. Malone replies that he doesn\u2019t want to die, but he\u2019s not afraid to. As with Baisy, the answer seems to be correct in the context of what Jones has said on other nights. But Jones criticizes Malone\u2019s bravado. \u201cYou\u2019re not afraid to die? Then you\u2019re not standing for anything. I\u2019d be ashamed to die if I were you.\u201d And what would this \u201cpunk\u201d \u2013 Jones\u2019 word \u2013 prove by picking up the frog? \u201cIs the fucking frog a capitalist? \u2026 You think that being brave is an end in itself. It means not shit<\/em> worth nothing unless it\u2019s connected with socialism. And you haven\u2019t got it connected with socialism. It\u2019s just Willie Malone, against the world. Gangland Willie.\u201d<\/p>\n

Emerging from this atmosphere of anger, confrontation, humiliation, and brutality \u2013 by Jim Jones, by his leadership group, and by the crowd as a whole, which threatens at times to dissolve into mob violence \u2013 is a sense of intimidation, a word that several residents use both in making accusations and in justify their behaviors. Jones seemingly exploits the mood of the evening on several occasions, as he reminds people to report on each other. \u201cDon\u2019t talk about sell-out, it\u2019s not sell-out,\u201d he says near the end of the meeting. \u201cIt is proper to tell, in a communist society, what is wrong, whatever your motivation.\u201d<\/p>\n

FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Date of transcription: 3\/21\/79<\/p>\n

In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n

On March 5, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B62 #51. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n

Side A contains numerous individuals at a gathering. Appears to be recorded at Guyana, South America, in their \u201cPublic Forum\u201d lead by J. JONES.<\/p>\n

Side B contains more of same \u201cPublic Forum\u201d.<\/p>\n

This tape was reviewed, and nothing was contained thereon which was considered to be of evidentiary nature or beneficial to the investigation of Congressman RYAN.<\/p>\n

Differences with FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

The summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted March 2010<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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