{"id":28292,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:50","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28292"},"modified":"2016-03-06T23:16:08","modified_gmt":"2016-03-06T23:16:08","slug":"787-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28292","title":{"rendered":"Q787 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

To read the Tape Transcript, click here<\/a>. To listen to MP3, click here<\/a>.
\nTo return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

FBI Catalogue\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/b>Jones Speaking<\/p>\n

FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/b>One Tracs 60\/ \u201cApril 18 Peoples Rally\u201d<\/p>\n

Date cues on tape:<\/b>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Context of tape consistent with date on tape box<\/p>\n

People named:<\/b><\/p>\n

Public figures\/National and international names:<\/i>
\nVladimir Lenin, father of Russian Revolution
\nLeon Trotsky, Communist leader
\nNikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union<\/div>\n

<\/p>\n

Stepin Fetchit, black comedian<\/div>\n

<\/p>\n

Temple members not on death or survivors\u2019 lists:<\/i>
\nEve<\/p>\n

Jonestown residents, full name unknown:<\/i>
\nAl (several in Jonestown)
\nWanda (several in Jonestown)<\/p>\n

Jonestown residents:<\/i>
\nHue Fortson
\nRhonda Fortson (speaks)<\/b>
\nMarceline Jones (speaks)<\/b>
\nGuy Mitchell
\nChristine Talley<\/div>\n

<\/p>\n

Bible verses cited:<\/b>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 None<\/p>\n

Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

(Note<\/strong>: This tape was transcribed by Freya Kory. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/i><\/p>\n

Jim Jones leads a community forum in Jonestown in mid-April 1978 during what he describes at different times as a \u201ccrisis,\u201d a potential \u201cbloodbath,\u201d and a time of \u201cwar\u201d (the latter assertion made several times). Despite the dire nature of the descriptions, the conversation is casual and less confrontational than it is during tapes known to have been recorded during White Nights. Also belying the gravity of the words is that he makes only one reference to death, and it is offhand \u2013 \u201cAll I want is the final translation out of this miserable thing called life\u201d \u2013 in the middle of a larger point he wants to make.<\/p>\n

There have been several events in recent days which occupy Jones\u2019 mind. Most recently was a tour of Jonestown by a contingent from the Soviet Union and\/or members of the American press. Jones is unhappy with the conditions of some areas of the community, especially the livestock areas, which was \u201cswarming with flies\u201d and had \u201cmuddy and murky\u201d water. The day was saved because the visitors could also see local Guyanese lined up for free medical services, but nevertheless, some Russians were \u201cnot impressed\u201d with what they saw at the piggery. While there was a breakdown in communications before the tour so individual committees may not have received assignments to clean up the place, the fact remains, it is everyone\u2019s responsibility to make sure the community displays well.<\/p>\n

Near the end of the tape, Jones hearkens back to an issue which has been before them for the past week: the petition of grievances filed by the Concerned Relatives in the U.S. against him. He is still upset \u2013 but not as angry as in previous tapes \u2013 that Hue Fortson, the Temple\u2019s assistant pastor in the States, accepted the petition from the opposition group.<\/p>\n

But the bulk of this tape is about sex. Sex is at the root of the problems, not only in Jonestown but for revolutionary movements in general. If women appreciated how much pregnancy, childbirth and motherhood diverted them from the cause, they wouldn\u2019t be likely to yield to a man\u2019s advances; and if men had to bear the consequences of having sex, they would be less likely to make those advances.<\/p>\n

Jones takes the opportunity to talk about his own sexual abilities. On the subject of organizational responsibility \u2013 and asking others to recognize their part in that \u2013 he complains he has shouldered the load by himself for 28 years. \u201cI resent it because, you know, if a fuck was all that a person needed, I could maintain this organization by goin\u2019 down \u2026 four hours and I\u2019d have most of the people fucked that needed fucked.\u201d He returns to the claim a few minutes later: \u201cI could take care of people who needed to feel good about themselves, I could take care of thirty in a night.\u201d Both times he refers to this prowess, however, he adds that people need more than that: \u201cBut that\u2019s not what people need. They need talk, they need counsel, they need help, they need someone to hear<\/i> them, to feel, to listen.\u201d<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, according to him, he is the only one who has this prowess. He criticizes some of the men as \u201ctwo-minute wonders\u201d \u2013 a reference to a White Night about a week before, in which a man confessed that he lasted about two minutes with his girlfriend before climax \u2013 as well as the woman who yield to this type of love-making. \u201cYou dumb bitches that go for two or three minutes, you\u2019re sadistic, \u2018cause you don\u2019t even get warmed up and you\u2019re the ones that\u2019s gonna get the pregnancy.\u201d With the encouragement of his wife Marceline, Jones suggests that women get their satisfaction instead with \u201ca sugar cane, go down and get some sugar cane and cut it, and then make it sweet on top of it. And you can move it much faster than two minutes, I\u2019m sure.\u201d \u201cRight,\u201d Marceline adds. \u201cOr a banana.\u201d<\/p>\n

Even worse for those who think they are getting something out of these \u201cquick fuck\u201d relationships, Jones says, they don\u2019t even have a good sex drive, a point he reiterates several times: \u201cYou haven\u2019t got any sex drive, and I keep repeatin\u2019 it. You\u2019ve got<\/i> no sex drive.\u2026 You haven\u2019t got<\/i> any. You haven\u2019t got a sex drive, and I\u2019ve still got one, but I do not allow it, and it\u2019s a strong one.\u201d<\/p>\n

All the diversionary asides notwithstanding \u2013\u00a0even though Jones is the one who returns to them on several opportunities \u2013 the problem as he sees it is how sexual obsessions affect the revolution. \u201cI\u2019m telling you,\u201d he cries, \u201cand I\u2019ve fucked people for seven hours for this cause, but I\u2019m going to tell you, if you don\u2019t keep yourself at an operation zero in your sex life, it\u2019ll affect all<\/i> your other judgments.\u201d A moment later, and in a calmer tone, he adds, \u201cIf you don\u2019t keep humble in your sex life, male or female, it will carry over to everything.\u201d<\/p>\n

Even though they\u2019ve talked about this before, Jones says, men continue to \u201cwalk around with your prick [thinking] that it\u2019s greatly desired,\u201d and women succumb. And even though it\u2019s a miracle that all the babies born in Jonestown so far have been healthy, they still affect the parents\u2019 vigilance against the mercenaries and other murderers lurking nearby.<\/p>\n

There really is only recourse for the community, and that is to penalize both the mothers who have unapproved pregnancies, and the men who impregnate them. Pregnancies need to be planned and approved, although \u2013 given the tone of the conversation \u2013\u00a0such approval would seem unlikely. The penalties are unspecified, and there is no evidence that anyone was punished for becoming pregnant in Jonestown in the six months following this meeting.<\/p>\n

FBI Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

Date of transcription: 3\/23\/79<\/p>\n

In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n

On March 20, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B62 #106. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n

JIM JONES lecturing\/reprimanding members, stating that they do not exhibit enough pride. JONES stated that a Russian visited the commune. JONES ridiculed\/critisized [criticized] the press. JONES also reprimanded the members regarding promiscuity and stated the women who get pregnant will be penalized.<\/p>\n

This tape was reviewed, and nothing was contained thereon which was considered to be of evidentiary nature or beneficial to the investigation of Congressman RYAN.<\/p>\n

Differences with FBI Summary:<\/b><\/p>\n

The summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted March 2009<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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