{"id":28333,"date":"2013-06-16T00:18:55","date_gmt":"2013-06-16T00:18:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=28333"},"modified":"2019-11-26T10:34:28","modified_gmt":"2019-11-26T18:34:28","slug":"960-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28333","title":{"rendered":"Q960 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

To read Tape Transcript,\u00a0click here<\/a>. To read the Annotated Tape Transcript,\u00a0click here<\/a>.
\nListen to MP3 (Pt. 1<\/a>,\u00a0Pt. 2<\/a>,\u00a0Pt. 3<\/a>). To return to the Tape Index, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

FBI Catalogue<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jones Speaking<\/p>\n

FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>Labeled in part \u201c10\/27\/73\u201d<\/p>\n

Date cues on tape:<\/strong> Part I<\/b>: Context of tape \u2013 reference to \u201cyesterday\u2019s\u201d quote by Richard Nixon given at press conference of October 25 \u2013 consistent with identification note
\nPart II<\/b>: Late August\/early September 1973 (within days of fire at SF Temple)<\/div>\n

People named:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Peoples Temple members:<\/em>
\nPart I<\/b>:
\nBrother Brown
\nBrother Jackson
\nRev. Jackson
\nSister Miller
\nSister White<\/div>\n
Pinkey Hansberry
\nMarceline Jones [by reference]Part II<\/b>:
\nSister Crane
\nSister Cunningham
\nthe Gieg family
\nBrother Johnson
\nLorraine
\nSister Morton
\nBrother Purifoy (likely Bill)
\nRon
\nSister Rose
\nMr. Sellers
\nSister Smith<\/div>\n
Zipporah Edwards
\nEver Rejoicing (Amanda Poindexter)
\nViola Ewing
\nArchie Ijames
\nMarceline LeTourneau
\nJane Mutschmann
\nHyacinth Thrash
\nRichard Tropp<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

Public figures\/National and international names:<\/em>
\nPart I<\/b>:
\nRichard Nixon, U.S. President
\nTom Bradley, Mayor of Los Angeles
\nSam Yorty, former mayor of Los Angeles
\nRobert Pierpoint, CBS correspondent [by reference]<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

Part II<\/b>:
\nJoseph Alioto, Mayor of San Francisco (by reference)
\nJoe Johnson, Deputy Mayor of San Francisco
\nBelva Davis, Los Angeles TV broadcaster
\nJim Dunbar, San Francisco TV host
\nRev. Lester Kinsolving, newspaper columnist, Temple critic<\/div>\n

 <\/p>\n

Bible verses cited:<\/strong><\/p>\n

(Editor’s note<\/strong>: The verses below appear in order of biblical reference, not as they appear in Jim Jones\u2019 address. For a complete scriptural index to the sermons of Jim Jones, click here<\/a>.)<\/i><\/p>\n

Part I<\/b><\/p>\n

\u201c[If] God appeared to Jacob\u2026\u201d (Genesis 31, Genesis 35:9-13)<\/p>\n

\u201cIf God appeared to Moses\u2026\u201d (Exodus 3)<\/p>\n

\u201c[I]n the case of a dictatorship \u2026 we have to say, Pharaoh, let my people go.\u201d (Exodus 5:1, \u201cAnd afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Let my people go\u2026\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201cWe have to make a way through the Red Seas through the wilderness.\u201d (Exodus 13:18, \u201cBut God led the people about, through the way of the wilderness of the Red sea: and the children of Israel went up harnessed out of the land of Egypt.\u201d Also Exodus 15:22, Deuteronomy 1:40, Deuteronomy 2:1)<\/p>\n

\u201c[If] God appeared to Manoah\u2026\u201d (Judges 13)<\/p>\n

\u201c[If God \u2026 walked with kings like] Solomon\u2026\u201d (1 Kings 3:5-14)<\/p>\n

\u201c[If God] walked with kings like Nebuchadnezzar\u2026\u201d (Daniel 2:28)<\/p>\n

\u201c\u2013Kingdom come, thy will be done heaven in earth.\u201d (Lord\u2019s Prayer, Matthew 6:9-13, Luke 11:2-4).<\/p>\n

\u201cYou say, well, the devil can do these things. What liar have you been listening to?\u2026 They called Jesus the prince of devils. They\u2019re always telling you that lie.\u201d (Mark 3:22-23, \u201cAnd the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201c[M]any will come in the name of Christ and will deceive many, but that was fulfilled in (unintelligible word) generation. It had to be fulfilled in twenty years. Read Mark 13, Matthew 24, that had to be fulfilled in twenty years. But that doesn\u2019t apply to us.\u201d (Mark 13, Matthew 24)<\/p>\n

\u201cGod didn\u2019t ever go anywhere, because God is within you.\u201d (Luke 17:20-21, \u201cAnd when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201c[W]hen you find out that God is embodiment, when you find out that the Word is made flesh\u2026\u201d (John 1, esp. 1:14, \u201cAnd the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201cThat was just a parable about God so loving the world. If you love the world, you\u2019ll come down and fight it yourself. You won\u2019t send your son. You don\u2019t send your son to fight a battle for you. You fight your own battle.\u201d (John 3:16-17, \u201cFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201cThat\u2019s just a parable. Jesus said when you see me, you\u2019ve seen what? The Father. He said I come in who? My Father\u2019s name. I and my Father are one.\u201d (John 14)<\/p>\n

\u201cGod [is] here. In a body. Yes, in a body. Don\u2019t make the mistake they did when they laid Jesus in the tomb. Mary and Martha said, where are they taking our Lord? Where are they taking our Pastor? \u2013 Lord means pastor, shepherd \u2013 where are they takin\u2019 him? The gardener was walking by them, they said he was a gardener. He said well, they\u2019re taking him nowhere. But they didn\u2019t understand, and the Bible said, as they walked away from him they thought he was the gardener, but it was the same God, the same Jesus. He didn\u2019t look the same, he had different hair color, he must have had different body shape, he mighta been a little taller, he might\u2019ve been a different race, but it was the very same Jesus, and the very same God (John 20:13-15).<\/p>\n

\u201cBecause wherever the Spirit of God is, there\u2019s liberty\u2026 For where the Spirit of liberty is, what? Where the Spirit of God is, there is liberty.\u201d (2 Corinthians 3:17, \u201cNow the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201c[Satan] can appear as an angel of light.\u201d (2 Corinthians 11:14, \u201c\u2026Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd we\u2019re to stand fast in the freedom with which God has set us free\u2026 you\u2019re to stand fast in the freedom, the liberty wherewith Christ has made you free, and be not a slave again for any man.\u201d (Galatians 5:1, \u201cStand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201cHe\u2019s going to come soon to those who get off their backside and recognize the only Christ is in you, the hope of glory.\u201d (Colossians 1:26-27, \u201cEven the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201c[W]hen you know that he\u2019s discerning the thoughts, knowing the intents of the hear\u2026\u201d (Hebrews 4:12, \u201cFor the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.\u201d).<\/p>\n

\u201cAll good things come down from above.\u201d (James 1:17, \u201cEvery good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201c[I]f God would walk with them and not with us today, he\u2019d be guilty of discrimination. He\u2019d be a respecter of persons, but it says God is no respecter of persons. Respect of person is sin.\u201d (James 2:9, \u201cBut if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.\u201d Also Leviticus 19:15, Deuteronomy 1:17, Deuteronomy 16:19, etc.)<\/p>\n

Part II<\/b><\/p>\n

\u201cAnd I have said something else, that if you will keep my sayings, you that live shall never die, if you will keep my sayings.\u201d (John 8:51, \u201cVerily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.\u201d).<\/p>\n

\u201c[T]hough you are dead yet shall you live\u2026 Though you were dead, yet shall you live.\u201d (John 11:25, \u201cJesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201cNow I prophecy according to my measure of faith.\u201d (Romans 12:3, \u201cFor I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201cI say to you that I will not allow more to be put on you than you are able to bear.\u201d (1 Corinthians 10:13, \u201cThere hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201c[T]he love of money is the root of all evil.\u201d (I Timothy 6:10, \u201cFor the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.\u201d)<\/p>\n

Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

(This tape was transcribed by Georgiana Mamlakah. The<\/em> editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/em><\/p>\n

[Editor\u2019s note: This tape consists of at least two \u2013 but most likely no more than two \u2013 addresses by Jim Jones from the last half of 1973. Part I likely postdates Part II, which means that the Temple recorded over part of an earlier speech. The exact location of the juncture between the addresses is unknown, however, and the indication of the beginning of Part II is only an educated guess.]<\/p>\n

In two addresses from the last third of 1973, Jim Jones is feeling both powerful and defiant.<\/p>\n

The tape opens with his open \u2013 and defiant \u2013 political endorsements and criticisms. Earlier that year, the Temple had worked to elect Tom Bradley, the first black mayor of Los Angeles, over one of the Temple\u2019s political foes, Sam Yorty. Jones then says that, while he\u2019s not supposed to, he\u2019s going after President Nixon. The privilege that churches and their ministers have in society \u2013 tax exemptions, draft deferments \u2013 should muzzle him, but he won\u2019t be muzzled. And unless the government goes other churches, like the Catholics, Methodists and Baptists, they better stay away from him. But no matter what the government tries to do to him, he will not be silent, he will be free. \u201cSo if I\u2019m not free to speak in the church<\/em>, I\u2019ll be free to speak in the jail. If they want me to stop speaking, they\u2019ll have to cut my tongue out.\u201d<\/p>\n

He segues into a story which has become familiar to his followers, that of the Temple standing up to an attack by a mob, and then to an assault by the police who arrested members of the Temple instead of the perpetrators. He reminds them of the black woman who was handcuffed, kicked, and called names, and who disappeared from the ambulance taking her away; he also reminds them that the police arrested Marceline, \u201cthe most wonderful mother you ever wanted, the church mother who\u2019s been faithful to you.\u201d He repeats the story of his own arrest and of how he refused to post bail until everyone else who was arrested had the chance to post bail. The result was, \u201cthey tore up the record, and they let all my people go, \u2026 they dropped all of the charges. That\u2019s what comes when people will get off their backside and stand up for each other.\u201d As the cheers mount, he concludes, \u201cYou gotta let them know if they take the freedom of one, they\u2019ve got to take the freedom of all<\/em>. You got to go on record right now \u2026 if you come in here to take one of us in a concentration camp, you better come to take us all.\u201d<\/p>\n

Some people may wonder what all of this talk of political activism and resistance has to do with God, but \u2013 citing Scripture as his authority \u2013 he proclaims, \u201cIf you do not love liberty, you do not love God. If you don\u2019t have freedom<\/em>, you don\u2019t have<\/em> God. If you don\u2019t care about freedom, you can never know God.\u201d<\/p>\n

Nevertheless, there is room to criticize God, and in the context of struggling for freedom, it\u2019s God\u2019s cowardice which Jones lambasts. Some see Jesus as being sent to save mankind; Jones sees Jesus being sent to fight battles so that his Father doesn\u2019t have to.<\/p>\n

But God did send Jesus. In language reminiscent of Father Divine\u2019s Peace Mission Movement, Jones describes Jesus as \u201cGod \u2026 in a body,\u201d and then reminds his own followers that people may not always recognize when God in a body has returned to be among them. The story of Mary and Martha speaking with the gardener at the tomb following the resurrection is a demonstration of that. \u201cIf God had a body in the day of Jesus, then he\u2019s got a body today, because God is the same today, yesterday, and<\/em> forever,\u201d he cries out.<\/p>\n

After all the miracles Jim Jones has performed, can there be any doubt that God is in the midst of them. He has already talked about the resurrections he has performed, both among the people sitting in the pews before him, and in the aggregate: \u201c[Y]ou know we\u2019ve had 463 people resurrected in these buildings\u2026 [My staff may] give me the signal that she\u2019s having a stroke or a heart stoppage down there, but I don\u2019t get nervous, after 463 successes in that department.\u201d<\/p>\n

The second, earlier part of the tape is similarly delivered with much defiance and self-congratulation. The Temple has had a couple of tangible successes \u2013 their efforts to clean up the Mall in Washington, D.C. during an August 1973 cross-country bus trip earned them an editorial of praise in the Washington Post, for example \u2013 but they have had a couple of setbacks, too, most notably an arsonist-set fire which heavily damaged the San Francisco Temple a few days earlier (given Jones\u2019 reference to their presence in \u201cthis school,\u201d this address is almost undoubtedly made at Ben Franklin Junior High, the Temple\u2019s earlier venue in San Francisco before its acquisition of the Geary Street Temple). Whether the news is good or bad, Jim Jones turns it into demonstrations of his paranormal abilities and his commitment to his people. \u201cEverything that happens to us,\u201d Jones says, \u201cwe make it for good.\u201d<\/p>\n

Jones protects his followers in all ways. Even when the church was firebombed within the previous few days, there was no loss of life, there were no injuries, the church\u2019s important files weren\u2019t damaged, even individual rooms were left unscathed, \u201cbecause there was a certain aura.\u201d Then, much as he warned the government and the mobs that would come to harm them, he has a message for those individuals who would try to hurt them: \u201cYou say they meant to burn us up. That may be, but they\u2019re dealing with one that will end up burning them<\/em> up.\u201d<\/p>\n

Indeed, much of Jones\u2019 focus in this address is about the fire. It was his premonition that made him extend the meeting on that fateful night, despite the urging of people who wanted him to stop talking, because that saved their lives. \u201cIf I\u2019da listened to people on Wednesday night, there\u2019da been 40 to 50, maybe 60 people, burned to a crisp. So when are you going to let me have my way and shut your mouth?\u201d He also reminds his followers how cool he was when the police informed him of the fire, because he knew no one had been harmed. \u201cAnd how was I able to say it? Because I put myself there to see<\/em> that nobody was harmed.\u201d<\/p>\n

It has been a year since Rev. Lester Kinsolving, a former columnist for the San Francisco Examiner and perpetual thorn in Jones\u2019 side, wrote his series of articles criticizing Peoples Temple, and he is still on the mind of the Temple leader. He points out that the Temple was not the only church to be attacked by Kinsolving, and that three of them have been burned since (and Jones hints that Kinsolving may have even been in on a scheme to collect some of the insurance money). On the other hand, the columnist\u2019s fortunes have fallen precipitously since the 1972 expos\u00e9, \u201cand if it took our building to burn up, we\u2019ll be glad to give our building to get rid of Kinsolving forever, wouldn\u2019t we?\u201d<\/p>\n

There are two mentions of a refuge outside the country tucked away in the course of this two-hour tape, one in each address. The first comes during Jones\u2019 pledge to stand and fight those who would take them down, when Jones refers to a biblically-endorsed escape route. Just as Moses told the Pharaoh to \u201clet my people go,\u201d Jones says that if dictatorship comes, \u201cwe have to get land abroad.\u201d The second \u2013 but earlier \u2013 mention comes during his discussion of their options after the fire. They can rebuild the Temple on Geary, they can buy another place, they can develop a new site to include housing for Temple members, or \u2013 reminding his followers just how mean America can be \u2013 they can \u201cget ready to leave to the Promised Land.\u201d<\/p>\n

Most of his proclamations of his own deity come as he is in the process of asking for offerings. As with almost every other tape, Jones shuts off the microphone almost every time he asks for specific dollar amounts. The exception comes when he solicits thousand-dollar pledges from the congregation to rebuild the church, and attaches urgency to the request. Quick responses, he says, bring more miracles more quickly.<\/p>\n

FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Date of transcription: 7\/2\/79<\/p>\n

In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n

On June 22, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B110-7R24. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n

A recording of JIM JONES lecturing about political platforms.<\/p>\n

Differences with FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n

The summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.<\/p>\n

Tape originally posted March\u00a02017<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read Tape Transcript,\u00a0click here. To read the Annotated Tape Transcript,\u00a0click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1,\u00a0Pt. 2,\u00a0Pt. 3). To return to the Tape Index, click here. FBI Catalogue\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jones Speaking FBI preliminary tape identification note: […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":27996,"menu_order":637,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-28333","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28333","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=28333"}],"version-history":[{"count":23,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28333\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":93543,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/28333\/revisions\/93543"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/27996"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=28333"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}