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(Editor’s note<\/strong>: This tape was transcribed by Vicki Perry. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/em><\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> Bless you.<\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> Bless you.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, cheers, music playing
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\nJones:<\/strong> Thank you, dear ones. It is written of old that there\u2019s anything lovely or anything of good report, to think on that, and I can\u2019t think of anything more lovely than you<\/em>, so I can think on that. (Philippians 4:8, \u201cFinally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.\u201d)<\/span> As I look at these beautiful young people, I wonder where on Friday night could you find, even we\u2019re not up to staff<\/em>\u2013 uh, we\u2019re not even up to par, many of our people involved in other activities, but where could we find a group of young people so vivacious and so outgoing and so beautiful as our young people are?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, music playing
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\nJones:<\/strong> And up there in the balcony of little<\/em> fellas that uh, (Stumbles over words<\/a>) very mixed service, they need to be down where they can sing to us here<\/em>, because they always sing so faithfully<\/em> up there in the balcony. A whole balcony of little<\/em> fellas, not really too<\/em> little, they\u2019re pretty big fellas, they\u2019re getting up there. And we\u2019re so grateful for them too. The wonderful, wonderful young.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Well, we would like to receive our offering at this time, knowing that we are\u2013<\/p>\n

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Jones:<\/strong> \u2013clear bill of health as of this last weekend. Peace.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Scattered applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I\u2019d like to announce something so that you\u2019ll have general understanding of policy. Last week, or some weeks ago, I instructed our Temple to help the man, [Rodger] McAfee, who had befriended Angela Davis. I had instructed<\/em> them to help<\/em> him, because it seemed<\/em> that he was weltering a storm\u2013 weathering a storm alone<\/em> in Fresno after he\u2019d come forward to the Communist Party of America with a hundred thousand dollars and bailed Miss\u2013 Miss Davis out. Well, I felt that we should see that this man was not left in the lurch<\/em>. And it appeared from the news that he was, so we tested it out ourselves and indeed he\u2019s in terrible condition. They took his money. Another heister came through of these so-called radical elements and uh\u2013 (muffled sounds of hammering) The hammering in there, they\u2019re working, our\u2013 some of our people are in maintenance below in the dining room, so don\u2019t let that distract you. They\u2013 another uh, came through and took thirty<\/em>-five thousand dollars of his\u2013 of his money. All the money he had for harvest. Have left the man\u2013 this precious white man that had no color consciousness, and he\u2019d said he\u2019d found indeed<\/em> that Angela Davis and her group were prejudiced<\/em>, and this is a terrible sort of thing to have to find out. You know, I won\u2019t spare it, no matter where it is, uh\u2013 truth is truth.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Amen.
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\nMale 2:<\/strong> Yes, it is.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Scattered response.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I won\u2019t spare anything. If\u2013 If it means our own house had to be divided, then I wouldn\u2019t\u2013 I wouldn\u2019t spare it. (Mark 3:25, \u201cAnd if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.\u201d See also Matthew 12:25 and Luke 11:17)<\/span> This man has lost everything<\/em>. His children can\u2019t go to school, he\u2019s lost thirteen<\/em> jobs. He asked us if\u2013 if\u2013 if\u2013 uh, his first approach was, could he do even humble<\/em> tilling work. And he was a man that had a dairy<\/em> farm. Now he can\u2019t even uh, produce<\/em> the ground, he\u2019s about to lose all<\/em> those acreage, all<\/em> that acreage, and Angela Davis has not once<\/em> looked in to see how he was, nor any<\/em> of those people have ever offered him a help nor sent him a thank you. Not a word. Not one word<\/em>. Now I\u2019m gonna tell you, the communist monkey\u2019s off of our backs now. I want nothing to do with that bunch of\u2013 that white bigoted outfit, nor do I want anything to do with Angela Davis that could forget her best<\/em> friend in the time of need. I want nothing<\/em> to do with her.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I went through it with the one that go into the\u2013 the gambling, and I don\u2019t like to go into it here, but you know, you members of family who are related to one of the nationalist groups who, uh, since he got out of prison, he\u2019s gone to gambling and living high up on the hog and taking the people\u2019s money and called himself a revolutionary. I went through<\/em> that, and I saw that they weren\u2019t consistent. Now the last straw. (Pause) Miss Davis, as I said, has not even\u2013 nor any<\/em> of the group, they took<\/em> his money, but they never<\/em> even looked in to see whether the man could eat<\/em>, and he\u2019s having difficulty keeping body and soul together. And the only thing that\u2019s ever kept us down is because I\u2019ve been willing to be a friend of everyone, even communists<\/em> if their rights<\/em> are involved.
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\nIjames: <\/strong>Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I would defend communists<\/em> or whoever when their rights<\/em> are being involved.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> But I now know that there\u2019s none purer in this land as far as the equalitarian spirit\u2013 there\u2019s no pure utopianists left but us.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> That\u2019s where it\u2019s at. I\u2019ve tested our sensitivities.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> So in a sense, everybody else\u2013 for years we\u2019ve been trying to get them to meet with us, we sent out appeals to say for them to come, we took risks to have them to come to our ranks, they wouldn\u2019t even show up, these so-called liberationist groups. They didn\u2019t even have the time of day to come and meet<\/em> with us. We, for years<\/em>, have been making overtures. We made overtures to people all around this place, and they wouldn\u2019t even keep their time<\/em> schedule. I don\u2019t want to go into any more names because we\u2019ve got a rat fink that\u2019s due to die in early spring because of their car\u2013 caring gossip and maliciousness, anyway\u2013 But you<\/em> know where I\u2019m\u2013 what I\u2019m talking about. You know who<\/em> I\u2019m talking about. Word has not been kept, principles<\/em> not been honored, appointments have not been kept. We\u2019ve gone the extra<\/em> mile time and time again to fellowship with people, and they want no fellowship.<\/p>\n

Now we believe in a nonviolent equalitarian society. We believe that the only way you\u2019re gonna get out of this plane is to overcome the lust for power and the lust for property. You\u2019ve got<\/em> to do it. Lust of power includes a lot of things, sex, a whole lot of things that\u2019re figuring into that area. The lust for property is a grave<\/em> evil. And you\u2019ll never graduate to the next dimension or the higher plane, the first heaven, you\u2019ll never graduate to it until\u2013 till you come to a total economic equality in your soul. You\u2019ve got to be equalitarian, racially, socially and economically. But we are\u2013 we have been hamstrung, and we\u2019da never got the persecution we got from the newspaper, if it hadn\u2019t been for this undertone that we were communists, which we were not<\/em>. We don\u2019t approach matters by violence, we do not believe<\/em> in offensive violence. We believe in defending ourselves, but we do not believe a cause\u2013 uh, causing anyone<\/em> violence or perpetrating violence upon anyone. We believe in the nonviolent<\/em> teachings of Jesus Christ. We\u2019ve turned our other cheek so<\/em> many times, that we\u2019ve had to turn the cheeks of the posterior too. We\u2019ve turned all<\/em> the cheeks you could possibly turn, and certainly fulfilled that scriptural promise and that scriptural admonition. (Matthew 5:39, \u201cBut I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.\u201d See also Luke 6:29.)<\/span> But I want it to be known now that if you have\u2013 if you are a champion of Angela Davis, I am sickened<\/em> with this woman, the treatment she has given. It wasn\u2019t a bad enough\u2013 it wasn\u2019t bad enough that when she was in trial, there was no<\/em> church in America gave her any help, not<\/em> one, except Peoples Temple.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Scattered agreement
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\nJones:<\/strong> Peoples Temple gave her the help. We<\/em> came up with two<\/em> thousand hard-earned smackaroos. We struggled in the parking light\u2013 lot to raise the money that night because of desperation of her circumstances. Miss Davis\u2019 mother [Sallye Davis] told me, said well, Angela will make a personal<\/em> uh, contact with you, and several other sisters said, uh, they met her sister and said uh, she\u2019ll contact you personally, I don\u2019t remember who it was now that said\u2013 who was it she\u2019d said she\u2019d uh\u2013 the sister said\u2013 oh, Sister Cobb. Said uh, she\u2019ll personally<\/em> thank you. Well, I didn\u2019t want a personal thank you, nor did I expect one, but I would\u2019ve<\/em> liked to know they got the money.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Nobody ever<\/em> said a word, not a mumbling<\/em> word, not even a note, not a telephone call, nothing<\/em>. That I took, but this down here that\u2019s happening in Fresno, when a man was well<\/em>-to-do on his own dairy farm, and put up a hundred thousand dollars against his property, and now he\u2019s losing<\/em> that property. We\u2019re meeting with him this weekend, we\u2019re going to see if we can get him some help, if we can find\u2013 if he\u2019ll denounce communism.
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.
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\nJones:<\/strong> If he\u2019ll denounce the Communist Party in writing \u2013 \u2018cause I\u2019ve had<\/em> it with that bunch \u2013 if he\u2019ll denounce it in writing, then we will proceed to help him and proceed with him. We will not risk the whole family anymore for some of these uh, people who want to maintain ideas. His first comment was uh, well, that\u2019s the way revolutionaries are. Our comment was, if revolutionaries behave in such fashion, we want no part of them.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Calls of agreement.
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\nJones:<\/strong> If revolutionaries forget their friends, the best friends they have, if they forget the people that help them when they\u2019re in the worst condition, I want no part<\/em> of it.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> If I didn\u2019t take care of my people\u2013 Well, how do you know my promises are worth anything? How do you know all of my rhetoric about a new world, a new society\u2019s worth anything, if I let some of my older people go hungry or homeless? Somebody bailed me out of jail, and I didn\u2019t even go by to say thank you, and they\u2019re starving, their children been shot<\/em> at. They have to have\u2013 He has to sit up with shotguns<\/em> to protect his property. His property\u2019s had fires<\/em> started on it, they\u2019ve been uh\u2013 the children have been\u2013 had rocks<\/em> thrown at them. They\u2019ve had every kind of harassment done. Life threats, so many they can\u2019t count them and Angela Davis is nowhere to be found. Oh, yes, over in Madrid, I guess, a while ago, uh, she was even over in fascist Spain. I wonder what she was doing over there. Then she\u2019s been around, all over the world, tripping about, socializing. I have no interest in this. Want to know the reason I\u2019m coming down on her hard? I want to protect this family. I have no interest in any other alliances. We sought you out, now you\u2019ll have to seek us out, and you\u2019ll have to be mighty<\/em> sincere before we\u2019ll have a thing to do with you. We are our movement within ourselves, and we are not allied with anybody<\/em>, and we don\u2019t want<\/em> to be.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We\u2013 we begged<\/em> for fellowship, we begged<\/em> to help people, we begged for liberation efforts to unite with us. Not a one. Cowards<\/em>. They been cowards to come around here. I noticed this week, we got news in the Chronicle<\/em>. A beautiful paper, a beautiful article in the Chronicle<\/em> about us, said we were highly regarded and uh, uh, widely known for our social uh, service work, for medically handicapped and the children and so forth, children that were handicapped. Very beautiful article on the last page, right at the top of the last page. How many saw it? How many saw the article? Very beautiful. And it\u2019s worth uh\u2013 it\u2013 it has ten times more circulation than the Examiner<\/em>, so don\u2019t worry about it if uh\u2013 So we got a beautiful article there and uh, my phone started ringing the next<\/em> morning and the lat\u2013 that night. People that\u2019d been away from here for\u2013 since September sixteenth, said oh, Father, I want you to know I haven\u2019t forgotten you.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Moans.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I want you to know that I\u2019m going to see you. You don\u2019t impress me. Where were you from September sixteenth until now?
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Exactly. Exactly.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I want to tell some of you\u2013 you\u2013 you\u2013 you\u2013 you lovely blokes. We got along<\/em> from September the sixteenth until now, now you go paddle your canoe someplace else.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Loud applause, cheers.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I\u2019m going to remember quite<\/em> well the ones that stuck with me through September sixteenth when it looked like all the roof was falling out. And I\u2019m going to stick\u2013 I\u2019m going to regard everyone<\/em> that was here until last Sunday much<\/em> more highly than I am you that just floating in here tonight and haven\u2019t seen us since September sixteenth.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I\u2019m not talking about a new person or a guest or someone who been here for the first time, but I am<\/em> talking about some who stayed<\/em> away purposely<\/em> when it looked like all hell<\/em> had broke loose around us, when it didn\u2019t seem that we had a friend, and they lied on us faster than horses could trot in the newspaper. Nowhere<\/em> were you to be found until things look good again, \u2018til the Chronicle<\/em> says we\u2019re highly respected. San Francisco Chronicle<\/em> says we\u2019re highly respected, so it\u2019s safe<\/em> for you to come back now. Well, you came back in my mind too<\/em> late unless you get up here and repent.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> The difference between this apostolic Christ non-violent revolution is that we never<\/em> forget our friends. And something else, we never forget our enemies.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We won\u2019t hurt you. We just don\u2019t want to be around you, until you repent. I think that\u2019s only scriptural, I think that\u2019s perfectly ethical.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Amen.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You shouldn\u2019t be\u2013 you shouldn\u2019t be expected to walk in here and\u2013 as if nothing happened while we fought hard to keep this thing going. When that lie\u2013 those lies that were told by that Reverend so-called Devil [Lester] Kinsolving. When he told all those lies, it hurt our finances, cut into them 25\u2013 30% of our weekly income because of his filthy lies. And we fought it alone and we fought back up. And we\u2019re here to stay. Now we\u2019re going to expand, because the only thing that ever kept me from expanding was the fear that someone would lie on us and say we were communists. They won\u2019t be saying it now unless they\u2019re big liars, because I have no<\/em> use for any<\/em> of that ilk. None of them. Anybody that would leave people in that condition\u2013 As I say we\u2019re going to meet with them in Los Angeles, if he signs a statement that what he said over the telephone and in person to the young man, Mike Prokes, who came from the CBS station who is a broadcaster, if he will sign in writing what he said about Angela Davis\u2013 not that we\u2019re going to publicize it, we have no desire to go around kicking Angela Davis. But we also want to defend and protect ourselves. We have no desire pushing her down, but we do<\/em> not want to affiliate with anybody that would forget<\/em> their friends and leave them down there to starve to death and lose their\u2013 If we don\u2019t do something quick, he\u2019s going to lose eleven hundred acres. Eleven hundred acres and nobody\u2019s<\/em> even lifted\u2013 In the first<\/em> place, not only is it insensitive and cruel<\/em>, it\u2019s darn poor<\/em> business. And I wonder some of these would-be revolutionaries are not planted<\/em> by reactionaries<\/em>.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yes.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> These people saying around here, hate all white people. Nothing<\/em> more, nothing<\/em> more than the fascist and the communist totalitarians, nothing<\/em> more would they want, than the blacks to start hatin\u2019 all white people. They have got exactly<\/em> what they want. Whip up hate, few black people are so hurt as we\u2019ve been hurt and oppressed, now and then somebody\u2019s going to break loose and kill someone, as we have this one in San Francisco loose with some feeling he has to beat up white women between six and twelve o\u2019clock. Don\u2019t you know that dictators would hire such a man as this?
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\nVoices in Congregation:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nJones:<\/strong> He\u2019s playing into the hands of the kind of thing that will start a dictatorship here like the Union of South Africa, where a black man and woman cannot walk out of their city block, and they\u2019ve got tattooed on their chest their own serial number. Don\u2019t<\/em> you listen to these people telling you to hate. Don\u2019t you listen<\/em> to them. There\u2019s no difference between the hate of the Ku Klux Klan and the hate of a black against a white. It\u2019s all hate<\/em>, it\u2019s no good!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And we\u2019re not going to tolerate it. We will defend all those people who feel that they\u2013 they must stand by that kind of isolationism. They get in trouble in the courts, we will defend anybody\u2019s right, we believe in the First Amendment, we believe in freedom of assembly, we believe in freedom of speech, but we do not support anyone<\/em> that teaches hate, be it a nationalist, be it a Mohammedan, be it a Christian<\/em>, we do not support it. Whether it\u2019s in the sign of a Ku Klux Klan cross<\/em> or whether it\u2019s under the sign of the crescent<\/em> half moon, it makes no<\/em> difference to me. Hate<\/em> will not be tolerated in here against somebody because of their race.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And I well know the one that slipped down the block and told the lies to the Muslims last week. I know<\/em> you lie.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (laughing)
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\nJones:<\/strong> And I know who you are, and you are going to be finished<\/em> before spring. The prophecy was given in Wednesday, and you know my<\/em> word never fails. Heaven and earth may pass away, but my word won\u2019t fail<\/span>.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Calls out) All<\/em> things may change, but Father every<\/em> day the same. He never has changed, and he never will<\/em> change. He always<\/em> will be the same. (Matthew 24:35-36, \u201cHeaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.\u201d)<\/span> He\u2019ll be a friend to his friends first, and he\u2019ll be a friend to the friendless, and he\u2019ll never forget you nor forsake you. You won\u2019t help him, he won\u2019t leave you homeless, he won\u2019t leave you down there without any food to eat, he\u2019ll never do that to you. (Hebrews 13:5, \u201c\u2026for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.\u201d)<\/span> And I want no part with anybody, whether it\u2019s Angela Davis, a communist, or whether it\u2019s some col\u2013 so-called Christian<\/em> group, I want no part with any<\/em> group that would forsake their friends in time of need.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Calm) These people are whipping up the kinds of hate that will encourage a takeover in this country. A military takeover. So you play down that hate. We\u2019ve got to learn to love. Our only way is to survive is to love. Now we don\u2019t\u2013 we\u2019re not going to stay<\/em> here if they develop a dictatorship, and they very well may. We\u2019re\u2013 we\u2019re making plans for Operation Hope. That\u2019s why you should support every time an offering goes. We\u2019ll take you out. At least now we can narrow down who we are responsible for. I used to worry about this group and that organization, I\u2019m not worried about anybody but the ones that are in here, right now. That\u2019s who I\u2019m worried about.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> They had their<\/em> chance, they had their<\/em> time. If dictatorship would be established here, we\u2019re not going to stay<\/em> here. But we want it stopped<\/em>, and if people will stop this hating and try to live peacefully together, we can stop<\/em> at least an uh\u2013 uh, over harsh dictatorship, and we can hold it back until that sixteenth at three o-nine. You know what I\u2019m talking about. If we can hold it back until then, then we\u2019ll be able to work out our own karma, as we have to work it out. We\u2019ve done everything we can to stop war. We\u2019ve used preventative measures. We\u2019ve put our money<\/em> where our mouth was. We\u2019ve supported every peace<\/em> effort, and Man still goes on willy nilly. Say, we\u2019ve got peace in Vietnam. You wait, you wait. You wait. I don\u2019t care how many months it seems calm. You wait. Still hasn\u2019t changed anything. For all<\/em> the vain reasons for man to destroy over a little place known as Hanoi. It\u2019s not going to change anymore than it did before that war was even conceived, even before man ever thought what kind of war we\u2019d have over there, before there was any (Unintelligible word, sounds like \u201crusk\u201d) or any deaths of all those great leaders that were prophesied, it\u2019s still the same. Man\u2019s going to bring an end to himself, the way he\u2019s going. But we don\u2019t<\/em> have to bring about a dictatorship and concentration camps<\/a>. We can avoid that, if we\u2019ll get out of that group, and we want nothing<\/em> to do with any group that talks violence. We want nothing<\/em> with any group that talks racism. We\u2019ll have no<\/em> part of it. We\u2019ll defend their rights to exist, but we\u2019re not<\/em> going to fellowship. For months and months, I\u2019ve sought fellowship with people, and they won\u2019t even return my telephone call. Now if they want fellowship, they\u2019re going to have to call me.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I haven\u2019t eaten today. Will you forgive me?
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yes, of course.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I work so much I don\u2019t get a chance to eat. (Pause) What is this?
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\nIjames:<\/strong> (Unintelligible word)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> It\u2019s what keeps me going. Wouldn\u2019t you like to know?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I\u2019m just teasing you. (Pause) Haven\u2019t you taken that offering yet? (Pause) Everybody should\u2019ve taken that offering now. Please put down your envelope and pass the plates. Everyone put something in it. If you don\u2019t\u2013 if I don\u2019t see you in these envelopes and I don\u2019t see you supporting this work, I\u2019m going to forget your number when trouble comes. And believe me, that\u2019s bad.
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013 have dirtied the names of commune, communalism, communism, socialism. They\u2019ve dirtied<\/em> the names. (Pause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013cloths, and they\u2019re for a special protective reason and everyone should have one. (Pause) You get them downstairs at the uh, counter, and the Mertles [Deanna and Elmer Mertle] are supervising. Don\u2019t think I don\u2019t know\u2013 just like this sister here said, here in the audience, I know little details. Sister Watson here said, \u201cJust a note to thank you. I joined church last Sunday. You were right, I lost three dollars Monday, PM, with a friend. You were also right about the German Shepard of the death\u2013 \u201d on and on and on. Some\u2013 Sister Watson here just sent it up from the con\u2013 congregation so it\u2013 it\u2013 evidently you ought to know, I know details<\/em> and I\u2019ve got reason for every<\/em> little thing I do. If I know down to the l\u2013 the loss of a dog and the three dollars within a few hours, then there\u2019s a\u2013 there\u2019s a reason<\/em> behind it, and there\u2019s a purpose<\/em> behind it, so this extrasensory parapsychological aspect has a purpose of protection. Utilize it. (pause)<\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> \u2013poster will be in very bad state with me.
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\nMale:<\/strong> \u2013Someone standing at the mike, please.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Yes, dear?
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\nWoman: <\/strong>(voice inaudible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> First why\u2013 why wring the necks of all these people, why crucify<\/em> people here for something that\u2019s not worthwhile. That\u2019s what I want to know. Why do you want to crucify<\/em> people for something that isn\u2019t worthwhile?
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\nWoman: <\/strong>S\u2013 Say, I say with love, Jim, how is it that you didn\u2019t sense<\/em> that D\u2013 that Angela Davis would give this treatment?
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\nJones:<\/strong> How is it I didn\u2019t sense? I claim to be the person that has more<\/em> revelation than anybody else. I claim that I\u2019ve got more direction than anyone else, and I said from the beginning that I had concerns about Angela Davis \u2013 you weren\u2019t around \u2013 I said that uh, I had some concerns months<\/em> and months ago with who was her mouthpiece. I said it bothers me very much.
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\nVoices in Congregation:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> So I said that.
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\nWoman: <\/strong>(unintelligible) Yeah, uh.
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\nJones:<\/strong> But I do not claim to be uh, infallible<\/em>. I claim<\/em> to be more aware, more astutely aware in the realm of extrasensory parapsychological impressions than anyone else<\/em>. Now Angela Davis uh, has no\u2013 nothing to do with it. I would\u2019ve still<\/em> defended Angela Davis\u2019 right to be what she is. That has nothing to do with it.
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\nWoman: <\/strong>Yes. I understood that.
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\nJones:<\/strong> See, the right of free speech to me is a sacred, sacred<\/em>, and invaluable gift that uh\u2013 it may be held uh, by someone who\u2019s totally<\/em> different from my point of view, but I will support them, and indeed I have an idealistic streak. I tend to trust people very much. I look for the\u2013 look for the best, or at least I have formerly done so, and I\u2019m cultivating that kind of aspiration to continue<\/em> to do so. To look for the best in people. Nonetheless, with Angela Davis, I have to make this public<\/em> pronouncement, as I said, that when McAfees\u2019, that white family, risked their life and limb, their children had to be pulled<\/em> out of school and he\u2019s lost thirteen<\/em> jobs, and he\u2019s now under siege<\/em> and he\u2019s about to lose his home, we\u2019re preparing to send some workers there to help him, save him\u2013 uh, save it so he can survive<\/em>. When Angela Davis gets a hundred thousand dollars from such a family and does not even<\/em> pick up a telephone to ask how they\u2019re\u2013 how they\u2019re managing to live\u2013 and she can read the papers just like I<\/em> read the papers. I<\/em> didn\u2019t have any discernment about this, I just read the papers that the man was having a terrible time<\/em>. So it caused me\u2013 I thought he had courage<\/em> enough to implement his ideas. Then what\u2019s ironic, the man wanted to join the Communist Party. And he tried to join the Communist Party of America after Angela Davis\u2013 after he\u2019d befriended her, and the Communist Party of America refused<\/em> him. They said he was too idealistic, too visionary. And I suspect that\u2019s true. I suspect some of those old co\u2013 uh, communists \u2013 many of them are probably double agents anyway, uh \u2013 they\u2013 they\u2019re crass and insensitive, and I imagine he was just too<\/em> idealistic and too sensitive for them. But uh\u2013 as far as impressions, my impression wouldna had a thing to do with it. If I had had to face the issue again, I would want to see with certainty<\/em> that she<\/em> had a fair trial. To tell you absolute truth to a very kindly forthright question on your part, I did not<\/em> have the total awareness of where she stood, because I wasn\u2019t looking<\/em> for that kind of rot. I wasn\u2019t thinking<\/em> that a woman\u2013 I didn\u2019t let my uh, perceptions\u2013 uh, my\u2013 my\u2013 uh, impressions go<\/em> in that range. I wouldn\u2019t think<\/em> that a woman who would talk about all these beautiful social consciousness\u2013 concepts\u2013 I wouldn\u2019t think<\/em> about her being so insensitive that she would forget the man that befriended her when none<\/em> others would help. We were the only church that put up two<\/em> thousand dollars, not another church in the whole\u2013 we didn\u2019t put it up as a church\u2013 us privately did it, we didn\u2019t take it from church money. We privately\u2013 private individuals put up two thousand dollars to get that woman a fair trial, and not another church gave her a dime. And no one else came to her aid, except that man with a hundred thousand dollars\u2013
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\nMan in congregation:<\/strong> That\u2019s right!
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\nJones:<\/strong> And then she never even bothered to see how he exists.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> So true.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And I mean his situation is horrible. Two of our workers went down there, one of the ladies that\u2019s in charge of the children\u2019s home and another one of our brothers who\u2013 over here from CBS, he setting right over there, on my right and he can tell you \u2013 uh, Mike, stand up so they can see \u2013 he can tell you, it\u2019s a bad thing he\u2019s\u2013 that she\u2013 that they\u2019ve gone through. A terribly<\/em> bad thing. So, in\u2013 in a\u2013 in a way you were right, although here you see how I manifest is this way. I am a (Pause) kind of a distinct different personality in the\u2013 in the sense of the metaphysical or the psychic. I\u2019ll get an impression like I said when the Reverend [likely Kathryn Kuhlman] was doing all of her speaking, I said it\u2019s something righ\u2013 wrong. When she was being interviewed over TV, I said she would not have this man do it, if she were right. Well, that was right back there over a year ago, but it had nothing to do with it, you see. It had nothing to do with this situation. She still needed a fair trial. Free speech is no more safe than it is safe for anyone<\/em>, no matter how much you disagree. But I did have that impression, but I wouldn\u2019t think<\/em> of a woman who\u2019s talking about prison reform, integration, peace<\/em>, you wouldn\u2019t think automatically \u2013 as a natural person, you know \u2013 you wouldn\u2019t think about that person being so insensitive<\/em> as she showed to be. You\u2013 you look what\u2013 as scripture says, you\u2019d would look for the best, wouldn\u2019t you? You\u2019d look for the good. You\u2019d look for\u2013 and I\u2013 I uh, say that you uh, make a point<\/em>. We\u2019re going to have to tend to look for the good, but also look as wise as serpents (Matthew 10:16, \u201cBehold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.\u201d)<\/span> uh\u2013 and we will<\/em> from now on, but it wouldn\u2019t\u2019ve changed<\/em> anything. I still<\/em> would\u2019ve defended her right to say what she said, to believe<\/em> what she said.<\/p>\n

There only one fact that now<\/em> worries me: was she guilty<\/em> of what she\u2019s\u2013 was charged of? But that still<\/em> has nothing to do with it. A fair trial is necessary. And she could not get a fair trial in a climate of race hate. She could not get a fair tr\u2013 trial in a climate of where she was being persecuted on every score, even her own life threatened and harassed. And indeed, maybe some of her own insensitivity has come<\/em> from the fact that she<\/em> was threatened so many times. Perhaps that\u2019s it. Perhaps the whole society can take a responsibility for what\u2019s happened to Angela Davis, but whatever\u2013 then she should get out<\/em> of the business. If she has pretended to be a leader, a revolutionary, someone who\u2019s going to bring change, and she can forget her friends so easily<\/em>. If sixteen months in jail did that for her, then she\u2019s no longer worthy of\u2013 to be called a leader. If her own disappointments caused her to betray her best<\/em> friend\u2013 and indeed I<\/em> call that a betrayal.<\/p>\n

Now if someone else has got something to say, I\u2019m a busy man. I sleep no<\/em> more than one hour a day. I haven\u2019t eaten all day until I took a little bit of this pudding, or whatever here. You saw me take a few spoons of it, because I\u2019ve been going to the children\u2019s homes, senior citizens homes, counseling, up all night for two nights straight. I laid down just briefly on the davenport uh, to just rest myself for about forty minutes, but did not<\/em> sleep. I did then<\/em> read\u2013 I read letters and uh, participated with things I had to do. Now I<\/em> don\u2019t forget my best friends. I<\/em> don\u2019t even forget people who\u2019ve been my enemies<\/em> that call on me. They\u2019ll call on me, and invariably I\u2019ll help them. People who put a knife right square in my back. I\u2019ll never forget to be kind, at least, as humanism goes, I think that you\u2019ll not find anyone any more sensitive\u2013 I know<\/em> you won\u2019t. I hate<\/em> to be presumptuous, but I know<\/em> you won\u2019t.<\/p>\n

And as I said I formerly, I wanted to seek out liberationist groups who talk the same rhetoric that I did, although the violent tinge I did not support, and I do not<\/em> support. I do not believe in violence and\u2013 in first place, I don\u2019t think it works. I know one<\/em> thing, you better not listen to these fools who are teaching us to hate. Twenty-two million or 24 million blacks cannot whip 180 million whites. No matter how Herculean they may be, how m\u2013 how much stron\u2013 strength and indomitable will they\u2013 indomitable will they may have, you cannot overcome such odds<\/em> as that. And I<\/em> think that some of these people that are teaching us hate, are paid<\/em> provocateurs. I think they\u2019re paid<\/em> agents. I think there\u2019s reactionary elements in this country that want to take over. They want a de jure<\/em> fascism. They\u2019ve got a de facto<\/em> fascism. They want an actual tyrannical military state, and they\u2019ve got groups acting like they\u2019re liberationists, whipping up hate, doing it in the name of revolution \u2013 right on \u2013 waving a red flag, talking socialism, communism, but they\u2019re being paid by rich<\/em>, hidden rulers.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> The hidden interests, the wealth interest that want to tighten<\/em> the grip, and I\u2019m telling you, if we don\u2019t have less of this violence, if we don\u2019t have less stories than we\u2019ve read in the last week\u2013 one black man made sick \u2018til he shoots how many police? Four died, didn\u2019t they? Seven, all told, citizens or eight died. And this week in San Francisco, the black man who\u2019s attacked now how many women? He beats them up, not only rapes them, but beats them up. Is he indeed, I wonder indeed, he is maybe paid? Or if he uh, is not paid, who<\/em> should be responsible? Churches that teach him to hate all white people? Some of the best support I\u2019ve<\/em> had here when I went to jail for a black woman, the frontlines were whites. Certainly blacks too, but the first ones to hit the jail were whites<\/em>. First one to get the call under arrest, and the first issue we\u2019ve ever had, and the people that\u2019ve risked their lives down through for this mission have been white. And I don\u2019t think that we\u2019re going to\u2013 we are not going to tolerate any division along those lines. And as we\u2019ve said on this street\u2013 Now we\u2019ve had some bad treatment given to our whites. Now in the future, we want blacks to go with our whites. And if any white person gets pushed around here, there\u2019s going to be trouble.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Now we<\/em> offered, we offered our strength, I didn\u2019t\u2013 we even got a good news article before this week, the San Francisco Chronicle<\/em> as I said wrote a very nice article about our social work this week, very sizeable article. But we<\/em> would\u2019ve gotten good news some time<\/em> ago, but I said, the Muslims down there, we\u2019re going to be friends with them. Well, they looked funny at me when I said that. And we didn\u2019t get our article. They stopped just like that. Now we have made overture after overture. I wanted to even go to Chicago to meet with their leader [Elijah Muhammad]. Never even got the call. Not the courtesy of a call to me, about when the meeting was to be, when I had been invited by them. And so, word has not been kept. That\u2019s their business. I always keep my word. There\u2019s not one of you here that can ever say I made a promise to you that I didn\u2019t keep it. You can\u2019t do it, you\u2013 you may\u2013 you may say<\/em> it, but you\u2019d be a liar, because I have never<\/em> once failed my word. My word\u2019s very important to me. I don\u2019t believe you\u2019re any better than your word. So, to our brothers we\u2019re told, that if they went down to the temple, the mosque last week, they\u2019d be able to find the two that\u2019d done this lying and trouble-making. They were told to come at a certain time, then they were denied entrance. And they weren\u2019t white, they were black brothers. Two of our black brothers were denied entrance. All right. That\u2019s going to get on. We\u2019ve been told that they\u2019re going to run us off the street. We\u2019ve been told that one of the Muslims are going to get<\/em> me. And we\u2019ve taken this very, very kindly. We\u2019ve taken it very kindly. But\u2013 That\u2019s why we have our little togetherness, and walking up and down these streets. It may be that somebody will start a ruckus, but whoever starts<\/em> it better be prepared to finish it.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Now we\u2019ve\u2013 we\u2019ve\u2013 we\u2019ve been\u2013 we\u2019ve been through<\/em> this\u2013 we\u2019ve been through<\/em> this. Our black brothers have been chastised for their white wives and treated like uh, dogs and vermin, and that\u2019s their business. But don\u2019t bother us any more. Don\u2019t you stop any of us on the street, any black married to white, or bl\u2013 where a black uh, woman\u2019s married to a white man. Don\u2019t you stop \u2018em, \u2018cause if you deal with one of us, you\u2019d better damn well know you\u2019re going to have to deal with all<\/em> of us.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, cheers.
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\nJones:<\/strong> All right, peace. (Pause) I don\u2019t like this stuff. But as I\u2019ve said again, and I offer my\u2013 I offer the\u2013 the peace pipe. We will do anything<\/em> to d\u2013 uh, to defend the rights of those who work for black liberation. And we will do it if they work for it peacefully. But I don\u2019t like this violence. I don\u2019t like what I saw in Washington DC this week. How many Muslims were killed there<\/em> in that situation? Seven Muslims.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I don\u2019t like what\u2019s going on. And some Muslim told me that uh, some internal struggles go on. Well, internal struggles that kill<\/em> each other does not have my respect. And we\u2019ve seen Muslims lie dead in this town<\/em>, and someone who has been forthright in the movement told me that there\u2019s internal struggles here<\/em>. Well, I\u2019m going to tell you, if one of our<\/em> people find\u2013 one<\/em> of us are found dead, the first place we\u2019re going to look for is you know where.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (loud applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> I don\u2019t like to be intimidating with the realm of the parapsychological, but I gave you the date, the one of you that went down there and told those two brothers. I gave you the date. Now you go down and tell them any gossip tonight. You just name any kind of gossip we did, and you see if you make it through the sixteenth of March.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Tentative applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> That good enough? We\u2019ve had enough<\/em> of you liars and trouble makers. We didn\u2019t start<\/em> this. We<\/em> certainly never lifted up our phone, never threatened anyone. We never threatened to run anybody off the street. And we won\u2019t<\/em>. We\u2019ll protect their right to be on this street, and they better protect our<\/em> right to be on this street. But if they don\u2019t, we\u2019re still going to be on this street.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Just let that be known, \u2018cause all of us aren\u2019t here. We can bring up two thousand from Los Angeles, we can bring up our security people from Redwood Valley.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> (unintelligible, shouting)
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\nJones:<\/strong> We can bring them all from our\u2013 our extensions, our senior citizen homes and our\u2013 those that are guarding our children\u2019s home and all the workers that\u2019re still there. We\u2019ll bring \u2018em all, if you want\u2013 if you\u2013 if people want to push us around, we have been pushed enough out of shape.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Right. (Applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Little intimidating things. Little messages. I want \u2019em to know also, you can tell \u2018em, we are monitoring all these little ole walkie-talkies that\u2019re being run up in front of our face. We hear<\/em> your walkie-talkie, so you better get on a band that you don\u2019t want us to hear, \u2018cause we\u2019re listening. We met\u2013 we\u2019re met tonight with walkie-talkies up and down on the street. Do they think that impresses us? We wouldn\u2019t be impressed if they had a submachine gun.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, cheers
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\nJones:<\/strong> Listen, children. We<\/em> have gone through\u2013 we have gone through burnings, we\u2019ve gone through our little animals kicked, and we\u2019ve had to bring them back through our own self healing. We\u2019ve seen all kinds of things. Persecutions against children because we were trying so hard to be a friend to everyone. We\u2019ve been shot<\/em> down. I\u2019ve been shot. Others have been shot. Others have had knives pulled on them. We\u2019ve had car<\/em> vandalism. We\u2019ve had it all, so you<\/em> that think\u2013 It\u2019s just<\/em> too late for January 1973 for anyone to come along and think that they\u2019re going to threaten us by just walking up and down with a walkie-talkie.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (light applause, yields to more applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> See, that little bit of Indian\u2019s still left in me. They\u2019ve chased<\/em> me all the way to the West. There nothing left of the Indian great culture and it\u2019s\u2013 (Stumbles over words) and their lands and their heritage, practically wiped out<\/em>. But I\u2019m in the West, and I intend anybody that wants to remove me from the West, I might take them with me.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (talking to someone off microphone) Yeah, put him down, just put him down. (back to mike) Now, you\u2013 if you\u2019ve finished, your\u2013 your question well taken, don\u2019t think I was offended by it. It\u2019s a good point. Yes?
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> \u2013 I just realized (unintelligible) \u2013 something that has been\u2013 (microphone placed by woman)\u2013 really con\u2013 bothering me that nobody would<\/em> take a stand that you did for her, and I thank God and I think everyone here, if not outside, should thank God that somebody<\/em> saw the point that she had a right to be defended. A right to a fair trial and stood up for it.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Right. Right. Racism shouldn\u2019t have be inv\u2013 be involved, and\u2013 and she shouldn\u2019t\u2019ve been uh, persecuted because of her ideas. She shouldn\u2019t\u2019ve been threatened in the middle of the night because she happened to be a communist, and she was<\/em>. And whatever she\u2019s done does not justify what was done against her. I don\u2019t like<\/em> threats. That\u2019s why I\u2019m being a little bit strong tonight. I\u2019m tired of it. In the former days, we wouldn\u2019t say a thing<\/em> about threats, but we\u2019re getting tired of it.
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\nVoices in Congregation:<\/strong> Responds.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Now if you ring our phone many more times threatening us or going to bomb us out or going to run us off the block, we are getting up to our neck. We don\u2019t claim to be perfect, we just claim to be nicer people than you\u2019ll find anywhere else, and you can<\/em> push us too damn far<\/em>.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Loud applause, cheers.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We\u2013 we show a lot of restraint. We\u2019re not fools. Some people uh\u2013 some people have encouraged us to defend<\/em> ourselves. We\u2019re not fools, we\u2019re not going to be sucked into a bloodbath. I mean, people high up<\/em> have uh\u2013 uh\u2013 uh, encouraged us to defend ourselves, personally<\/em> defend ourselves. Do what you will. We<\/em> won\u2019t be sucked into that sort of thing. We have no desire to be violent. Not in us. Every little animal in our animal shelter, you can see how we never even use euthanasia. We take and nurse them and bring them back to health. We do use strong contraceptions, but we do not \u2013 and birth control \u2013 we do not in any way believe in violence. It\u2019s\u2013 When you start using violence, something happens to your spirit and your soul. I don\u2019t even like the tone<\/em>. But you know I\u2019ve found something, that all my sweet talk didn\u2019t get those people off our back. All of our sweet sayings, how we would defend those people, did not get any<\/em> response. All of our overtures<\/em> didn\u2019t even get a telephone call. But when we marched down the street<\/em> last week, some of those cocky ones got off and let us march down the street.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Loud applause, cheers.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Calms) Who likes\u2013 Who likes surveillance? Who likes to have to have inquiries at a door? Who likes to have to have security patrols? Not us. But we\u2019re just gonna show you that we think enough<\/em> of us that we want to stay alive as long as we can. I personally have the necessity of staying alive because a great deal orientates around me as a focal point. I\u2019m not in love with this world that much, of this earth plane and its incongruities. I\u2019m not that much in love with it, but I will stay alive and fight<\/em> to stay alive because of you. I feel I owe that to you. People talk about dying on the cross. That\u2019s a great, great heroic sacrifice. I say living<\/em> is much more of a sacrifice than dying on a cross, because if I could die on a cross and save all of you people from some real or imaginary sin, I would say, get me the cross and put it down in the ground quick and nail my hands as fast as you can, because I\u2019d be glad to save<\/em> you by one act. So living<\/em> for you takes a lot more guts and a lot more grace than dying<\/em> for you. (The passion of Jesus in all four gospels)<\/span>
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> So I\u2019m going to stay alive for you the best I can to protect<\/em> you.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Dear hearts\u2013 And may it never be known (Unintelligible word)<\/a>\u2013 I\u2019m glad that our sister posed a question, because some didn\u2019t understand when a Doctor Richardson was in trial the other day, of the John Birch Society, we came to his<\/em> rescue. Now there\u2019s a move now in the country against people of the right. (Pause) I don\u2019t mean right in the terms of rightness<\/em>, we have this right wing speaking of conservatism and left wing speaking of so-called socialist<\/em> incline. Now some of those people onto the right<\/em> uh, label are coming under a great deal of persecution. And strangely enough, some of the right\u2013 rightists are worried about the same things you are. Up in Redwood Valley, when we were going through this harrowing<\/em> experience, when they were threatening us night and day and carrying out their threats by breaking our windows, the only<\/em> person that came to our rescue up there was not a liberal, not an intellectual do-gooder, not\u2013 none of that intel\u2013 intellectual set that is supposed to be sensitive to people, none of the sensitivity groups, none of the uh, free schools, not a soul <\/em>came. None of the peace<\/em> groups. Everybody left us alone, cold. Except the sectional leader of the John Birch Society.
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Strange<\/em> world you run into. You say all John Birchers are racist. Oh, no, not him. He\u2019s not a racist. Black stay in his house and live with him all the time. Not a racist. He\u2019s had blacks stay with him for days and weeks at a time. And he\u2019s a sectional leader of the John Birch Society, and he was the only person that came forward with support, then\u2013 Well, I mean vocal<\/em> support. Then [Marge Boynton] the head of the Republican Party, strange enough and I\u2019d been against everything Republicans stood for. So she<\/em> came forward. So you just don\u2019t know who your friends are going to be in a time of need. You\u2019ll be surprised. Well, now of late, the John Birch Society\u2019s been speaking about increased federal centralization. Bureaucracy. The omnibus crime bill. The uh, taxation without representation, proper representation. The in\u2013 increased uh, centralization is their primary theme, and they\u2019re against many<\/em> of the same creeping laws that you are. We find a lot<\/em> in common with this man. Fact, next Wednesday\u2019ll be your opportunity to meet this John Birch man, because he\u2019s going to be in our Wednesday night service for just about a half an hour to show a film about controlled press, controlled news, censorship of the press. So I think we need to not fall in\u2013 in the bags nor let people put people in bags. Let\u2019s not judge all people because somebody\u2019s been bad. If there\u2019d been one bad John Bircher, that doesn\u2019t mean all Birchers are bad. And we know well we are not going to judge all white people because some white people\u2019ve been bad. We don\u2019t like to be judged\u2013 we know what whites have done to us, we don\u2019t want them to do that to us, and we\u2019re not going to repeat that sin by judging that the entire<\/em> race or an entire movement because of the antics or the activities of one or two<\/em> \u2013 or, even fifty or sixty percent \u2013 because in this<\/em> house, we\u2019ve got some fearless white people.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got some fearless white people.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> My own white companion [Marceline Jones] was spit on with our black son [Jim Jones Jr.], and she\u2019s been attempted to be driven off the road, and I suppose she\u2019s a typical prototype of blondeness. She\u2019s a blonde, and certainly she has a black<\/em> heart.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, cheers
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\nJones:<\/strong> Peace. Peace. See, a black heart\u2019s good here. We\u2019re changing some of that. That\u2019s why someone the other day heard us singing this song: \u201cWhat can make us black\u2013 our black to glow? Nothing but the blood of Jesus.\u201d They said, well, I never heard it that way. Well, we\u2019re changing it because black isn\u2019t bad<\/em>, darling. Black is beautiful!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, cheers
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\nJones:<\/strong> You see the ol\u2019\u2013 the old uh, racist church\u2013 the old racist church, they want to talk about white<\/em> as snow. Well, we want our black<\/em> to glow. It\u2019s all right to be white as snow if you want to be. We want our black to glow. So we change the little words like that because we\u2019ve got to reeducate. There\u2019s been a lot of this uh, fear of darkness, back to primitive man that has caused black bad. Dark. Evil, uh\u2013 he\u2019s\u2013 is\u2013 is\u2013 is this\u2013 this type of imagery of black being bad and white being good<\/em>, we\u2019ve got to change that around<\/em>. Because we\u2019ve found black to be very, very good and very, very beautiful. And we have found, as I say, one after another of our white people who have stood the test, who have been threatened, who have been harmed,<\/em> and they have not backed off. The backbone<\/em> of this Temple through the\u2013 the stormy years before some of you knew of us, before some of you in the Bay knew of our Temple \u2013 you didn\u2019t know, you\u2019da been there, many black people woulda been there if they\u2019d known \u2013 but some of the backbone<\/em> were whites through those stormy years. We woulda never been a Peoples Temple if white people hadn\u2019t agreed with this Indian sitting here, and backed him up in his ideals. And as you know, I\u2019ve never watered it down for anyone. I\u2019ve preached integration and intermarriage back when the law<\/em> was against it. I married<\/em> couples when the law was against it, back in the East and the South. I performed weddings<\/em> when the law said you could not<\/em> do so. So don\u2019t talk to me about you being on the front lines of revolution, you don\u2019t\u2013 some of you people don\u2019t know what a revolution is. You don\u2019t know what it is to stand when the trials are on. We\u2013 we took those tans\u2013 we took those stands 25<\/em> years ago. Twenty-five years ago. I said, I married people that far back, across racial lines, and you\u2013 they coulda throwed me in jail for it, and<\/em> tried, and they didn\u2019t get it done. And they tried to throw me in jail last week because of brotherhood, and I\u2019ll always be on the side of the right question. When I\u2019m not in jail now and uh, I\u2019m be\u2013 having an interview this week, going to Los Angeles, the comen\u2013 commander of the police has asked to have a special interview with me. I was in\u2013 in his jail two weeks ago, now he wants an interview with me. Beautiful.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, cheers
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\nJones:<\/strong> Peace. (Pause) We were in that jail for one good reason. One lady had to\u2013 she went down and told the assistant mayor didn\u2019t tell all the story. He got the story straight. We went down and said, \u201cReverend Jones was in jail.\u201d So\u2013 so good to be gossips like that.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> The Baptist lady had\u2013 she just couldn\u2019t run down there fast enough to say Reverend Jones was in jail. She didn\u2019t tell why<\/em> Reverend Jones was in jail. She didn\u2019t tell that our black sister there was kicked into an ambulance, against her will<\/em>, by two white racist ambulance attendants, and when we talked to them, she called us\u2013 told us\u2013 they\u2013 they\u2013 they told us to get our dirty \u2013 whatever they said \u2013 MF nigger hands off of the ambulance. We hadn\u2019t even raised a finger<\/em> of violence. And so we kept insisting that she had a right to get off that ambulance, and she had had a stroke, and they made her sit<\/em> up. And so we would rather go to jail<\/em> than see someone treated like that.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And indeed they came and throwed<\/em> us in jail, but we got the lady off the ambulance anyway.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, laughing
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\nJones:<\/strong> And this was not here. In this city, we\u2019ve had very, very good cooperation with law enforcement. Very beautiful cooperation. But we\u2019re going to get it down there<\/em>, or at least I think they want<\/em> it, because they let us go, they didn\u2019t even arrest me formally when they found out I wouldn\u2019t leave. I said uh\u2013 they put me in the jail cell, and I said uh\u2013 said well, you\u2019ve not been in jail for, have you? I said no, never been arrested, never had an altercation with a cop before. Not a verbal exchange. They said, well, you can get out for six hundred and seventy five dollars or whatever it was. I said, I don\u2019t want out.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And they said uh\u2013 the man said \u2013 one of \u2018em said \u2013 well, (short laugh) I\u2019ve had a lot of people trying to get out of here, but I\u2019ve had no one who ever wanted to stay in. And I said, well, I have<\/em> to stay here, because I don\u2019t believe in people being able to buy their selves out with a bail. I don\u2019t believe that people should be able to buy freedom with money. I think that everyone should be given a right to go out on their recognizance or stay in<\/em> the jail. It shouldn\u2019t have anything to do with how much money<\/em> you have. So I said I\u2019m staying<\/em>, so tell my church people, and they did, they went and told you that I was staying. Well, I guess they decided they didn\u2019t want me, because three minutes later, they decided to let me go, and they never picked me up again later.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause, laughter
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\nJones:<\/strong> I know I shook \u2018em up, \u2018cause it wasn\u2019t the nicest little room in the world, cement floor and a lot of\u2013 there was some blood laying on the\u2013 on the floor. Somebody\u2019d come to some difficulty there on the floor. I just wrapped up my old coat under my head and laid down. And he said that\u2013 that\u2013 one of them said that\u2013 that fool\u2019s in there sleeping.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (short laugh) I heard him. He didn\u2019t know I was listening to him, but I heard him, that fool\u2019s in there sleeping. And I would\u2019ve too, I\u2019da had a good long rest, \u2018cause it\u2019s hard work out here fighting for freedom.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> So if I get to set in jail and do\u2013 let you do some of the work for a while, it\u2019d be all right.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> But I wouldn\u2019t stay there unless I\u2013 it\u2019s meant to be, and it wasn\u2019t meant to be, because I didn\u2019t do anything to get out<\/em>. I didn\u2019t try<\/em> to get out, they just let<\/em> me out. So, I\u2019m out until somebody else kicks a black woman, and I\u2019ll be back in<\/em> again.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You know\u2013 You know what I\u2013 what I don\u2019t understand is that I\u2019m looking at some of you people and you\u2013 you never clap, you never smile. What\u2019re<\/em> you here for? I\u2019d like to know what in the hell you\u2019re here for tonight.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Cheers, applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You know, you\u2013 you\u2019ve got uh\u2013 you\u2013 you\u2019ve got a right to be where you want to be and we\u2019ve got a right to be where we<\/em> want to be. You\u2019ve got a right to evaluate us, analyze us and make any kind of conclusion<\/em>. It ought\u2019na take more than five or ten minutes to do that. Then after that, you ought to either get friendly or leave<\/em> us. Uh, I\u2019ve had the best analyze me, and I\u2019ve had the worst, and I\u2019m not interested in any kind of ap\u2013 appraisal. I\u2019m not interested in any critical judgment. Uh\u2013 Someone came in and said they wanted to do a nice story. I said I didn\u2019t want<\/em> a nice story, thank you. So uh, when we want a story, we\u2019ll let you know<\/em>. Or when we want an evaluation, we\u2019ll let you know. In the meantime, we<\/em> like each other. If you don\u2019t like us, don\u2019t bother<\/em> us. If you do like us, we\u2019ll fight for you, we\u2019ll make you the best friendship you\u2019d ever had. We\u2019ll stand by you thick and thin. We take care of our people when they\u2019re out of work, we take care of them through the golden years in the most beautiful senior citizen homes you ever saw in your life. We educate our own, 109 under scholarship right now, by this church. What\u2019ve we done when our brothers got into difficulty over civil rights? We bailed \u2018em out. I was the only one that wouldn\u2019t take bail. They wouldn\u2019t\u2019ve either, if I\u2019d have asked them, but uh, they had to get back to jobs so we took over that civil rights case, or we put up the bail. Now there\u2019s no place you gonna find friends like this on earth, but one thing we\u2013 we\u2013 There\u2019s one little rule we have. And I think we ought to put it on the wall: if you stay in our service, at least smile or get on the road.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We find that usually people who sit off critically anyway are just trying to find a m\u2013 a means to cop out from group responsibility. They make all these uh, you know\u2013 they look for little things. The fact that I\u2019ve adopted eight children of all races, that doesn\u2019t mean anything. The fact that we\u2019ve built an orphanage that uh, fed two hundred starving babies that were literally starving to death, that doesn\u2019t mean anything. But they\u2019ll find one<\/em> little thing. The kind of clothes I wear, or some style I have or aggression that comes out in my speech. You\u2019re darn lucky that my aggression doesn\u2019t come\u2013 come oth\u2013 other place than my speech<\/em>.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (laughter, applause)
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\nJones:<\/strong> You see, when you get\u2013 when you get people\u2013 When people have been as nasty to your friends as uh, they have been to mine<\/em>\u2013 I\u2019ve seen the most horrible kinds of things. Two weeks ago, it took a lot of love to forget that. I don\u2019t pretend to uh, look easily on violence. Some people say they never feel any violence. I think they\u2019re a liar. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s ever been a soul on earth that didn\u2019t feel violence. I think it\u2019s a matter whether you control<\/em> that violence or not. But as far as feeling<\/em> it\u2013 I know Doctor Martin Luther King told me how he<\/em> felt. \u2018Cause when I was the government commissioner, he sit right on the platform with me and we were speakers in a great rally<\/em>. He told me how he<\/em> felt deep in his<\/em> soul. He felt like whipping, he said, so many honky asses that he wouldn\u2019t be able to count<\/em> them. But he didn\u2019t<\/em>. He acted peacefully because he knew that that was the best way you could serve<\/em> it\u2013 the cause<\/em>. But you do<\/em> feel it. Well, I think that there\u2019re no group that\u2019s been able to control it as much as in\u2013 two weeks we\u2019ve been able to put down that\u2013 that horrible hate, and it was awful<\/em>. Our nurse sitting here\u2013 she\u2019s uh, she\u2019s back now. She had a ruptured spleen. Doctor that blood\u2013 show\u2013 her heart\u2019s just failed on her. We had her on a bus in different hospital, just sent her out. We had\u2013 I had to keep her alive by my own power<\/em>, because she\u2013 her blood pressure failed, her hear\u2013 pulse failed, and they were going to operate<\/em> [on] her then they said something miraculously happened. Well, we\u2019re not uh, credible kind of\u2013 we\u2019re\u2013 we\u2019re not the incredible types, we believe uh, after it\u2019s proven to us, and it\u2019s been proven to us so many times that there\u2019s some kind of energy that works in this house. You name it whatever you will that does these kinds of miracles but here, no<\/em> one was sacred. She uh, gets injured. My son [Stephan Jones] tries to protect Sister [Marceline] Jones, and she was taken away in handcuffs, first time in her<\/em> life, \u2018cause she just said why you treating these people this way? That\u2019s all she said. Why are you treating \u2013 boom, off to jail she<\/em> went. And then they hit<\/em> my child \u2013 twelve-year-old child \u2013 for saying don\u2019t take my mother<\/em>. It\u2019s hard to forget<\/em> some of that stuff. Now, you know it is, it\u2013 it sticks with you, and we\u2019ve had it, all of us have had it so many times over and over and over and over again. And I\u2019ve never yet used any violence to anyone, nor will I, only to protect my children. If you come to hurt any of my children, then you\u2019ll have to kill me<\/em>. That\u2019s my\u2013 that\u2019s\u2013 that is a covenant I made. Don\u2019t try to hurt my children.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I know<\/em> that there are some who say if they come to hurt your children, you\u2019re supposed to let them. They call them\u2013 themselves the school of nonviolence in the absolute degree. They say even if they come to rape your wife, let them. Or to harm your children, let them. Well, I\u2019m not going to try to judge people who talk that way, but I think it could be an easily [easy] way to escape from responsibility. No, if you\u2019ve come to hurt my children \u2013 and that doesn\u2019t mean just the one\u2013 eight that I\u2019ve adopted, that means any of them \u2013 If you try to hurt one<\/em> of them, you\u2019ll have to kill me. Now I\u2019m not saying what I\u2019ll do, but that\u2019s pretty graphically plain, I would say. If you have to kill<\/em> me, that means I\u2019m not going to stand there and pray for you.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> But before we would have a bloodbath with anyone, we don\u2019t want wars. If we see dictatorship creeping up, a racist society, we see apartheid \u2013 racist separation \u2013 and it\u2019s quite evidently in the wind, according to sociologist [Kenneth] Clark and many others. We already have two societies. One free, one enslaved. We\u2019ve made our plans for sanctuary. We\u2019re not just talking<\/em>, we\u2019ve made our plans. You saw this building before we took on it, it was a hog pen. We\u2019ve made it into a beautiful living place, every facility is livable, rooms here, apartments, it\u2019s all nice. And you see that every place we\u2019ve gone, we take care of our\u2013 our facilities, we provide for our people, and we\u2019re also providing in Operation Hope, a way of escape if trial comes. We don\u2019t want to stay here in a bloodbath, because there nothing but cowards running roo\u2013 loose in this country. Cowards. They\u2019ve shown it on too many cases. When Miss Davis had her trial, 2,000 dollars and all of America from Peoples Temple and a hundred thousand dollars from the man in Fresno, and he\u2019s practically to lose\u2013 about to lose body and soul. His wife has been at the point of\u2013 even do\u2013 so despaired over\u2013 considering her life\u2013 taking her life. Well, we wouldn\u2019t let her down, though we never knew them. We never knew them, but we felt a responsibility to get in there, to look after people who care for others, and we did. And we\u2019re going to look after people who care for others. But we\u2019ve seen too many showdowns, and nobody cared. We, a gentle, kindly people that\u2019ve never hurt a fly and taken in every person that\u2019s ever been brought to us, every older person, every younger person, every little animal even. And on September sixteenth, when the paper uh, told all those lies, people forgot us, except the John Birch Society head \u2013 white<\/em> man \u2013 and the white lady Republican. Liberals<\/em> and socialists and all of \u2018em forgot<\/em> us. (Pause) Looking after their own hide. (Pause) Well, I\u2019m glad we went through it. It taught us some lessons. I\u2019m glad we learned the lessons we\u2019ve learned, aren\u2019t you?
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\nScattered voices in Congregation:<\/strong> Yeah!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Don\u2019t talk to me about marching off to any go\u2013 any revolution, no. Hmm-umm. Nobody interested in any revolution. I look\u2013 I look down here and I watch this professor at uh, Stanford, wasn\u2019t it? [Howard] Bruce Franklin. And I told what he was headed for and his misguided approach to life. And he had a visionary idealism, he gonna change the world with his gun. They got somebody out, didn\u2019t they? Somebody out uh, that was uh\u2013 that uh\u2013 they defended someone that was an escapee from brutality, who escaped from the prison system? You remember that, just a while ago?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> They protected<\/em> him, didn\u2019t they? All the way across to Arizona. Now what\u2019d he do? Turned \u2018em all in. Turned every blessed one of \u2018em in. (Pause) That nice? Well, in a way, I wouldn\u2019t mind being in the\u2013 their shoes. I don\u2019t\u2013 I\u2019m like [Henry David] Thoreau uh, with [Ralph Waldo] Emerson. I see so many good people in jail, I feel my conscience is pained<\/em> by being on the outside. But I don\u2019t want you<\/em> inside, unless it\u2019s for a good cause. And I don\u2019t want you in there if it\u2019s not going to do any good<\/em>. So I am as of this date forward<\/em> an anti-communist. No clapping. That\u2019s my posture. Don\u2019t want any communist here. I asked you people to come if you wanted to build a better world, and you didn\u2019t even have time to talk to us. Now I want nothing to do with you for my people\u2019s sake. I am disassociating with any<\/em> and all communist. The person that turned in this church and met with evil woman who\u2019s a racist, fascist in the worst sense, Mrs. Johnson in Indianapolis. She\u2019s a fascist<\/em>, evil<\/em>, Ku Klux Klan. Who met with her? John Bacharach, that\u2019s over in the YMCA who is a trade union, an old time communist. An avowed<\/em> communist. And he said he\u2019d do anything to get us\u2013 get us down, to destroy us because his girlfriend wanted to stay here and build brotherhood instead of going to do what he wanted to do. That communist. I\u2019ve had a bad<\/em> trip with communists lately. No more than I have with fascist certainly, but I want nothing to do with any of you ism-atics. You go out and do your own revolution. I see some of your cocktail revolutions. I see you driving down your Rolls Royces and your revolutions. I see the one in the town here, one of the ministers that\u2019s always talking revolution, I see how well-heeled he<\/em> is. When we came to want to use his facility, he says, I\u2019m doing my own thing. He\u2019s old enough to act like he\u2019s got some sense and he had two miniskirted girls, one of \u2018em on his knee. He was going to\u2013 he said, you do your thing, we\u2019ll do your [our] thing. We said we wa\u2013 we want to save money<\/em>, we don\u2019t want to build another church. We wouldn\u2019t\u2019ve done this<\/em> if we hadna been able to put apartments and uh, housing in it. Said we could take that money and use it at the time for Indians on Alcatraz, or blacks to give them supplies and food and things they needed in the ghetto. (mimics voice) He says you do your thing. We do our thing.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (laughing)
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\nJones:<\/strong> Well, he can do\u2013 That\u2019s just about the way he said it, Jack said, he was there. So we\u2019re letting him do his thing, and we are<\/em> going to do our thing, and we don\u2019t want nothing to do with his thing.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Off mike) Fifteen? (Back to mike) I\u2019m spending a lot of time with this tonight, but I want it quite clear, no more gung ho for Angela. I mean no more posters. I want \u2018em down everywhere. I want nothing more to do with this situation. As I say, to me, it\u2019s grievous. And if anyone else wants to challenge me, as the sister did kindly on the floor, you do it now. Otherwise, I don\u2019t want to see a picture<\/em> of her anywhere, because when you forget your friend, a friend like that, and their little children even suffered for you, and you don\u2019t even look to see how they\u2019re doing, forget<\/em> it, honey. Just forget it. Just forget it, as far as I\u2019m concerned. Now if you can think of some excuse, you\u2013 you do it because I\u2019d like to\u2013 I\u2019d like to hear your point of view, but otherwise, I don\u2019t want to hear the name of her\u2013 her personality challenged here as a great leader anymore. I want no more to do with it. If she\u2019s being hurt, I\u2019ll\u2013 I\u2019ll help her just as I would help any human being that\u2019s being hurt.<\/p>\n

All right. In the meantime, we\u2019ve got the report of the finances. He\u2019s just dropped the slip here, and it\u2019s very, very sad. Numbers of things we have to do. For our older people, we do<\/em> have to have an elevator because for housing and otherwise, we\u2019ve got to have an elevator down there, and it\u2019s got to be put in and it\u2019s fifteen thousand dollars, and we want it done. A ten<\/em>-capacity elevator. We\u2019ve got to get this roofing, and we\u2019ve got to uh, continue with Operation Hope. You know what Operation Hope is? You do. Well, if you don\u2019t, ask your neighbor. (Pause) You don\u2019t see me in any Rolls Royce. You see me in an old used choir robe. I think this is probably a baptismal robe. People give me their choir robes. By the way, I need some more of them. If you got out of that churchified state that you were in, and you want to share your choir robe, will you bring it? Anybody got a good choir robe? You want to save it for a day when you want to go back there, huh?
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Short laugh) Anybody got a choir robe they\u2019ll let old man Jones have while he helps to build a great society? (Claps hands once) Thank you. Well, we got a good one going here. It may be internalized a little bit, it may be isolated a little bit. Some minister was saying to one of our young people, he\u2019s one of our children\u2019s father\u2019s a bishop<\/em> of a large denomination. We\u2019ll say that. That\u2019s his title. Big denomination. He said, well, some of us have choo\u2013 chosen to live inside the society and work and others have chosen, like Peoples Temple, to get outside of it. Now isn\u2019t that nice? He never gave a dollar to Angela. He never gave a dollar to any political prisoner, but we\u2019re supposed to be living outside<\/em> the society, and he\u2019s inside it. Like he\u2019s doing a good thing driving around in his fancy clothes and he\u2019s 55 years of age or whatever, and he\u2019s got hair\u2013 It looks\u2013 It sounds like he\u2019s wanting to wear long hair like the twenty-year-olds. He\u2019s a swinging bishop, but he\u2019s inside the society, suffering, he\u2019s suffering inside the society.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Suffering bad<\/em> inside the society. I looked up at the choir because one of the members is\u2013 his father\u2019s uh\u2013 he\u2019s a father of one of our members in the choir. She coulda had that kind of a life. White society, elite<\/em>. But she chose to be down here with us. So don\u2019t talk to me about white people. Two of our white women could\u2019ve been society-minded<\/em> if they wanted to, with a father that had this big office in the largest denomination in America. But they chose to be here at Peoples Temple. But he was writing them a letter, you know, about how he suffering inside the society. Now it may be that we don\u2019t choose to fellowship in\u2013 outside. We don\u2019t like all those lodges and clubs that you patronize. And we do<\/em> have a close knit fellowship, we have a bang of a time at Christmas and New Year\u2019s Day. And we do<\/em> have nice homes where we take care of our people. But we\u2019re not driving around in Rolls Royces. We\u2019d rather have nice\u2013 nice homes and some food back in our pantry, and we got some. We can put\u2013 We can put\u2013 We can put some meat on your ribs, honey, when the time comes.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We\u2019d rather\u2013 we know you can\u2019t eat a Rolls Royce.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> No way in the world you gonna eat a Rolls Royce, nor can you eat diamonds. That\u2019s why we don\u2019t like diamonds. And neither do we like diamonds because the ra\u2013 racist state of Africa. Union of South Africa\u2019s kept in power by the diamond market. So our preacher just wears clothes that don\u2019t look as good as your preacher, but your preacher never done as much for you as this church has done for its people (unintelligible). (tape edit) \u2013 came to us today at the children\u2019s home while I was there, on forty acres where we have our children\u2019s home, and said, the state bureau wants you to form two<\/em> special homes. I\u2019m not going to tell you which bureau, \u2018cause I know some of you devils. I\u2019m going to get<\/em> the homes afore I tell you, \u2018cause I know you devils.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You\u2019d be surprised how wicked some people are. It shows God good, truth has to be with us, or we wouldn\u2019t\u2019ve lasted, because the moment we tell anything we going to do (whisking sound) they go\u2013 uh, they\u2013 they start stirring up trouble. Gossips. They just sit in here and bend their ear. That\u2019s why until\u2013 until formerly I\u2019d never let anybody die<\/em>. (Pause) But you saw the last two weeks what happened.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Haven\u2019t you?
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You saw what smart alecks got. Before your eyes. And I mean, don\u2019t\u2013 don\u2019t come in here with this smart alecks attitude and think you\u2019re gonna do cruel things to people. Because this man\u2019s a good man. But you start messing with his children, he\u2019s got a few secret whammies.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Murmurs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> (Claps lightly. Short laugh) Everyone gets quiet. Say\u2013 Say people should come to the truth through goodness. They should<\/em>, but if they don\u2019t<\/em>, I\u2019ve got two secret whammies.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Talk about goodness and appeal and sweetness, as I said. Nothing in the world reach some people except a little fear. What is it that\u2019s said, the old gospel said? Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. We\u2019ve got our interpretation of that. (Proverbs 9:10, \u201cThe fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.\u201d See also Psalm 111:10 and Proverbs 1:7.)<\/span>
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Laughs.
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\nJones:<\/strong> We got two whammies. Well, that\u2019s fear, and it\u2019s a low plane. But we mean for you<\/em> to quit trying to hurt these people. If you do<\/em> it\u2013 You can see the white brother that was here that died before our face. You saw what happened to him. His racism\u2013 what he was trying to do to our black associate, what he was trying to do in the meeting. You saw<\/em> his smart aleckness and you saw what happened to him.
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\nIjames:<\/strong> Yeah.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Starting to belch blood. You saw how quick he<\/em> repented. All my sweet<\/em> talk never got through to him. I\u2019ve sweet talked him for ten years<\/em>, and it didn\u2019t get through to him. Say, well, it\u2019s not right to do that. Uh\u2013 If you\u2019ve got somebody in there that\u2019s risking the life of twenty people, it\u2019s your duty to keep them under control. That\u2019s a moral<\/em> duty, to keep them under control.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> So I want to tell you, that we\u2019ve been approached by a agency asking us for two<\/em> homes \u2013 two licensed homes \u2013 and the agency will guarantee when the beds are filled. They\u2019re so impressed with our care that they\u2019ll guarantee that the beds will be paid for by<\/em> this agency, whether they\u2019re filled or not. So any of you that\u2019re interested in running a kind of a uh, custodial home, let us know. The church will\u2013 Some of us would put our money, I\u2019m sure, to advance you to get us\u2013 That\u2019s how we look after each other. We believe the Jewish people have done something with their state of Israel. They\u2019ve done something, they\u2019ve looked after each other, we\u2019re going to look after us. We\u2019re building the Peoples Temple Israel. (short laugh)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> You\u2019ve heard of white Jews, well, we got mongrel Jews.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And I tell you, when you look at that children\u2019s home, I was so thrilled with our custodial people, that precious couple that came from Los Angeles, what they have done. He wasn\u2019t no more equipped to run a farm than I am to uh, breed flies. But he uh\u2013 he uh\u2013 not that it\u2019d take much genius to breed flies, but anyway, that\u2013 the\u2013 the\u2013 everything<\/em> beautified, curtains and all the little things that make children living so gracious. Warmth, paints, the kind of colors that would be nice in their rooms, it was a drab old place before. And the\u2013 the\u2013 the gates and the fencing and the landscapes. And places for the animals. Everything\u2013 It just made my heart feel good to look at that children\u2019s home today. You can be proud, they\u2019re working hard on it. You ought to take a tour through it. But that takes money<\/em>, child. Those payments come every month. They don\u2019t go\u2013 They don\u2019t grow on a tree. Nobod\u2013 (short laugh) I made a notation the other day, a scribble about uh, something about damn money not growing on trees. And Brother [J.R.] Purifoy thought it was meant for him. It never was<\/em> meant for him, but he\u2013 he smiled at me today so that musta been\u2013 that took a lot of grace. He\u2019s in one of our contractors<\/em> who\u2019s moved into the family, but money sure don\u2019t grow on trees. It does not. So who\u2019ll help us with a special pledge tonight? Hundred dollars or above, before we get in the healing service. Hundred dollars. (Pause) Anyone that\u2019ll give us a hundred dollars or above.<\/p>\n

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\nJones:<\/strong> Some churches advertise in newspapers. We feel we\u2019d like to put our money for some good cause, and as I\u2019ve said, I said we\u2019d get<\/em> some newspaper coverage, and we did. And if you\u2019da bought<\/em> it, it\u2019da cost you six thousand dollars. And what you advertise about yourself\u2019s not nearly so much good as what somebody else tells about you. And we didn\u2019t do it for advertisement, we do it because we believe in the First Amendment, that\u2019s why we did it, and that\u2019s why we shall continue<\/em> to champion such purposes. But it takes money to be spent out to build in\u2013 in uh\u2013 to have<\/em> money. You know what\u2019s next on the agenda? Come on, folk, going to have to shell loose. We\u2019ve bought the building right across from the supermarket in Redwood Valley. Three apartments and we\u2019re going to\u2013 there\u2013 there\u2013 there\u2013 there\u2019s a newspaper going to be uh, in there that\u2019s going to uh, rent our spaces. And they\u2019re going to print the news objectively<\/em>. And we\u2019re going to have a warehouse for our buses<\/em>. And we\u2019ve already bought it, uh, money\u2019s not there but we\u2019ll<\/em> pay for it. People wanting us to go under, we not going to go under. Umm-mm [No]. Only thing ever woulda<\/em> put us under was the fact that Father had such grace that he even associate with communist, if they were in trouble, now I\u2019m not associating with them. Quiet. I said I\u2019m not. I love you too much. I don\u2019t want nothing to do with them. Want nothing to do with anybody that doesn\u2019t do any better than uh, what I\u2019ve seen out of this communist bunch. So, I don\u2019t mind associating with anybody. Said the quickest way to get me into confrontation sometimes would be the best route for me, but uh, I\u2019m not going to associate with anything that will cause you difficulty. So wake up now. We\u2019ve got to purchase that place. You know that what will help us\u2013 a newspaper that will print the truth.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Scattered response.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Not a newspaper that\u2019ll be biased towards us, but one that will print the truth<\/em>. \u2018Cause if they preach the truth, we\u2019re always<\/em> going to come out all right.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> If you\u2019re interested in doing some of these things, in this federal credit union \u2013 Peoples Temple Federal Credit Union \u2013 it could give opportunities I say to increase people who could work in apostolic living styles. We hope you\u2019ll let us know. We\u2019ve got good typists. What else do\u2013 what do we need, uh, attorney [Gene] Chaikin? We need any special kind of helpers? We need people who can write too, if you want to do s\u2013 articles for the newspaper, they\u2019ll be glad to uh, listen to your contributions. (Pause) We need a bookkeeper<\/em>. Anybody a bookkeeper in the house? It\u2019s a low assembly tonight. Anybody a bookkeeper? There\u2019s one over there, go\u2013 right across there. Sh\u2013 She\u2019s right across from you, Gene. On the end of the aisle. You can talk to her, see what we can\u2013 see if her qualifications meet our needs and vice versa. Here, sister down here is a bookkeeper. She\u2019s been a good faith\u2013
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\nVoice in Congregation:<\/strong> (unintelligible)
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\nJones:<\/strong> You manage a credit union? Aha! Aha! Aha! Aha! Aha!
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> He wants to see you right now. The attorney just run out of his seat when you said that.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> (laughing)
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\nIjames:<\/strong> That\u2019s great. It\u2019s good. It\u2019s good.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Oh yeah, you folk thought we going to get dirtied by the communist name, now we\u2013 we\u2013 See, we never throw off anything until we can conscientiously do<\/em> it. Now we can conscientiously do it. Nothing going to bother us now on. That\u2019s the only problem we had, was that monkey on our back. Even though we weren\u2019t<\/em> one, we had that to deal with every time we turned around. So, we\u2019ve got to pay for that building and we got to keep moving on. That\u2019s half of Redwood Valley. That\u2019s half of the uh, shopping center we\u2019ve got. First thing you know, Redwood Valley will be \u201cus\u201d.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> In it there\u2019s a laundry mat, a beauty salon, been a restaurant there formerly, they\u2019re going to be turning it into a uh\u2013 the newspaper facilities. And we have three apartments. They uh\u2013 We didn\u2019t uh, need to get them for our people, (laughs) they\u2019re already rented to our people.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Scattered laughter.
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\nJones:<\/strong> So we\u2019ll be the\u2013 they\u2019ll be paying their rent to the Peoples Temple now. They\u2019re lovely apartments, beautiful apartments.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> And uh, they already were all rented by black people, all\u2013 all three apartments are rented by black people, as I recall, aren\u2019t they? I don\u2019t ever pay any attention to race. Aren\u2019t all three of those apartments rented by black families? Right in the heart of what\u2013 one time blacks were not supposed to stay overnight. And we\u2013 all the people that live in Redwood Valley downtown area now are black<\/em>. It\u2019s wonderful.
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> Now, dollars for the claps. Who\u2019ll give us some hundred dollars pledges or gifts tonight? (tape edit) They\u2019re not interested in\u2013 in that, but he might\u2013 they might still be\u2013 we\u2013 we might do one. The Temple might put out a little sheet on him ourselves. We might even get\u2013 (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Part 2:<\/strong>
\nJones:<\/strong> Two more lives! Spirit! God!
\n(Organ plays)
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\nCongregation:<\/strong> Applause.
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\nJones:<\/strong> I love you, I love you. It\u2019s always my custom every Friday night, Saturday night to shake your hand, but tonight I shan\u2019t. When you catch the bus, I shake every han\u2013 everyone\u2019s hand at the bottom of the stairs. Tonight you make important at the bottom of the stairs to get your anointed cloth, the blue. It represents a very specific protection. Peace. Kiss your neighbor, hug them, \u2018cause I\u2019d like to hug each of you.
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\nEnd of tape<\/strong><\/p>\n

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