{"id":32652,"date":"2013-07-25T16:49:33","date_gmt":"2013-07-25T16:49:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alternativejonestown.com\/?page_id=32652"},"modified":"2014-03-14T16:53:11","modified_gmt":"2014-03-14T16:53:11","slug":"875farrell","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=32652","title":{"rendered":"Shredding the Suspect List on Q 875"},"content":{"rendered":"<p >With little doubt, one of the biggest puzzles                                  to come out of the Jonestown tragedy in recent                                  times is the discovery of tape Q875, which was                                  recorded at least half a day after the deaths.                                  Until now, it was generally accepted that the                                  last of the deaths occurred around midnight of                                  November 18, 1978, and that presumably the few                                  on-site survivors-roughly twenty of Jones&#8217;s inner                                  circle-pulled a Houdini and disappeared shortly                                  thereafter. After that, Jonestown was thought                                  to have been deserted (I hesitate to use the term                                  &#8216;ghost town&#8217;) for about 20 hours, until the Guyanese                                  Defense Force arrived at dusk on the 19th. But,                                  much as the crucial Christian period between Good                                  Friday and Easter Sunday, the Jonestown chronology                                  has a 24-hour gap in it: what happened in the                                  time between the last of the deaths at midnight                                  and the arrival of the GDF little less than a                                  day later?<\/p>\n<p >At the very least, Q875 requires that the generally                                  accepted chronology of events during those mysterious                                  24 hours be rewritten. Clearly, someone was on-site                                  at that time, though who and why are unknown.                                  If we can determine who was there, it might be                                  possible to extrapolate why.<\/p>\n<p >The voices on the tape-at least five males and                                  one female-speak English with American accents,                                  except for one possibly Guyanese speaker, so we                                  can immediately rule out any locals. Realistically,                                  this leaves us with three possibilities for suspects:                                  the U.S. military, and the U.S. government (i.e.:                                  the CIA), and the aforementioned &#8220;missing twenty.&#8221;                                  Cases can be made for and against each group.                                  In the interest of helping curious readers draw                                  or debunk their own theories over this, I offer                                  the following analyses of each suspect scenario                                  without endorsing any, other than to mention that                                  I present the groups in order of what I consider                                  least to most likely.<\/p>\n<p ><strong>The Military<\/strong>. Rumors that the                                  American military (usually Army Rangers or Green                                  Berets) were on-site during the lost time between                                  the 18th and the 19th have been lurking around                                  for decades, though there is no credible evidence                                  or paper trail to back this up. Of course, one                                  wouldn&#8217;t expect there to be such blatant evidence                                  if this were a covert operation. All such stories                                  of military involvement are at least second-hand,                                  and the sources disseminating them tend to be                                  conspiracy theorists. Of government groups that                                  would have an interest in Jonestown, the military                                  is low on the totem pole, so the question of motive                                  is immediately raised. Most conspiracists would                                  respond that the Army would be pawns in this case,                                  acting on orders from &#8220;elsewhere,&#8221; with Langley,                                  Virginia being the most popular spot. Alas, this                                  shows a lack of understanding of how the government                                  works: the Defense Department and the Intelligence                                  Community are separate entities, and there has                                  always been a bit of a rivalry between the two                                  and a reluctance to cooperate. There are contemporary                                  examples of collaboration between the two, of                                  course, with the failed Iranian hostage rescue                                  mission being the best instance. Even that, however,                                  not only took an Executive Order, but more to                                  the point required months of planning and coordination.                                  With Jonestown, we are talking about a window                                  of opportunity of less than 24 hours with next                                  to no advanced notice.<\/p>\n<p >That said, if any group had the means to get                                  in and out on such short call and without anyone                                  knowing, it would be the military. The American                                  military did have a presence throughout Central                                  America, and flight time from a base in Panama,                                  for example, to northern Guyana is only a few                                  hours. The Guyanese officials at the nearest airstrip,                                  Port Kaituma, have steadfastly insisted that no                                  one from the &#8220;outside world&#8221; showed up in the                                  time between the suicides and the GDF rescue mission,                                  so access to Jonestown would have to be done by                                  helicopter. In terms of pulling off this logistical                                  coup, then, the military would be best set up                                  to do it.<\/p>\n<p ><strong>The CIA<\/strong>. Alleged Agency involvement                                  in Jonestown has been a hotly-debated topic over                                  the past 25 years, and is indeed fertile grounds                                  for a bumper crop of conspiracy theories. Jim                                  Jones was a Marxist messiah-type who floated plans                                  to relocate to the Soviet Union, so in this Cold                                  War context it stretches credibility to think                                  that the government wouldn&#8217;t have at the very                                  least a passive interest in Jonestown. Unlike                                  the above-mentioned Military Scenario, coming                                  up with a motive for the CIA to make a quick trip                                  to Jonestown requires very little imagination.                                  Likewise, if one is exceedingly lenient and generous                                  as to their capabilities, they could conceivably                                  have been able to pull off the admittedly impressive                                  feat of assembling a team on no notice and dipping                                  in and out without anyone knowing.<\/p>\n<p >Q875 itself offers two very tantalizing-if ambiguous                                  and open-ended-clues suggesting this. <\/p>\n<p >First, the people on the tape can be heard rummaging                                  around the radio room, as if they were looking                                  for something. The GDF themselves reported that                                  Jonestown seemed to have been either looted or                                  ransacked when they showed up. Although this is                                  usually attributed to local native Amerindians                                  and Guyanese living near-by, the people on Q875                                  are clearly American, and from the context of                                  the sounds, seem to be looking for something.                                  Incriminating evidence, perhaps?<\/p>\n<p >Second, there is this snippet of dialogue:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       &#8220;He&#8217;s in Georgetown with Richard [unintelligible] right [unintelligible, sounds                                  like &#8216;now&#8217;], [unintelligible, sounds like &#8216;unless&#8217;].&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              &#8220;[interrupting] I thought you said he [unintelligible]&#8221; [laughs]<\/p>\n<p>[unintelligible]<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Who was it?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He was the [unintelligible].&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Huh?&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He was the, uh, executor of the, uh, settlement in Costa Rica, right? He&#8217;s the bigwig.&#8221;                                                                                                                                                                                                                 <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p >There were two survivors named Richard: Richard                                  Clark, and Richard Janaro. Neither were in Georgetown                                  during this time-frame. Of course, there was a                                  third Richard involved with the events. Richard                                  Dwyer was an Agency Man who survived the Port                                  Kaituma shootout and even gets a hotly-debated                                  reference from Jim Jones himself on the infamous                                  Death Tape. If the people on Q875 are indeed referring                                  to Mr. Dwyer, we have as close to a smoking gun                                  of CIA involvement as we are probably going to                                  get.<\/p>\n<p >Obviously, it is tenuous at best to assert that                                  the &#8220;Richard&#8221; in question is Richard Dwyer, for                                  two reasons. I have been unable to determine how                                  Dwyer referred to himself-thus influencing what                                  others would call him. There are multiple forms                                  of the name: Rich, Rick, Dick, etc. Also, it is                                  unclear just when Q875 was recorded, as efforts                                  to time-stamp it against the broadcast times of                                  the news broadcasts in the background have as                                  of now been unsuccessful. If Q875 were recorded                                  early enough, there may not have been enough time                                  to have evacuated him to Georgetown and have this                                  information known to the people on the tape.<\/p>\n<p >However, the speakers on the tape show more                                  than a passing familiarity with the whole situation,                                  as reference to the &#8220;bigwig Costa Rica executor&#8221;                                  demonstrates, which you would expect of CIA operatives                                  handling the case.<\/p>\n<p >Of course, that would also be evidence for the                                  third scenario of suspects.<\/p>\n<p ><strong>The Missing Twenty<\/strong>. It is known                                  that a number of Jones&#8217;s inner circle survived                                  the suicides and subsequently dropped out of sight.                                  Since they were obviously on-site at the time                                  of the suicides, it plausible to allow that they                                  would stick around longer than is generally accepted.                                  It is also plausible to attribute the general                                  ransacking evident at Jonestown to them removing                                  any self-incriminating evidence. Of course, this                                  begs the question: if they stuck around to remove                                  incriminating evidence, why would they be dumb                                  enough to put themselves on tape?<\/p>\n<p >Putting that plot hole in logic aside, the very                                  fact that this was taped at all seems to suggest                                  members of the Missing Twenty made it. Q875 was                                  recorded on one of the existing cassettes at Jonestown,                                  so whoever made it knew where the cassette cache                                  was, and then apparently went to the trouble of                                  returning it to that location. I have trouble                                  believing that military or CIA agents would have                                  that detailed knowledge of the commune. More to                                  the point, they wouldn&#8217;t be so sloppy and stupid                                  as to record such a tape, as it defeats the whole                                  purpose of a clandestine &quot;black bag&quot;                                  operation. Conversely, if Q875 were made for the                                  purposes of misinformation or misdirection, you                                  would think that it would be better than it is:                                  the audio parts would be clearer and contain dialogue                                  that would serve as expository for whatever red                                  herring they were trying to set up. The very existence                                  of Q875 is an amateurish gaffe that flies in the                                  face of professional training. However, it is                                  a bit more understandable of people who had just                                  been through a traumatic event-such as the deaths                                  of 900+ friends-and weren&#8217;t quite thinking straight.<\/p>\n<p >That said, one of the curiosities of the tape                                  is the vocal tone of the speakers: they seem cool,                                  calm, and collected, where-as you&#8217;d think the                                  members of the Missing Twenty would be exceedingly                                  stressed out.<\/p>\n<p >One final thought on the matter that tends to                                  support the tape being made by Peoples Temple                                  survivors: one of the voices is a female, and                                  much of Jones&#8217; inner circle-as opposed to other                                  power structures of the period-was female. Not                                  that I want to sound misogynistic, but it strikes                                  me as highly unlikely that a woman would have                                  been included in any type of military or government                                  operation of this type. Obviously, I could be                                  wrong, as determining precedent for this is exceedingly                                  difficult and beyond my meager means. <\/p>\n<p >Other than these three suspects\/scenarios, there                                  are others, but almost all of them require leaps                                  of faith that even televangelists wouldn&#8217;t try.                                  Occam&#8217;s Razor points toward the tape having been                                  made by the Missing Twenty, but that is just my                                  opinion, and I could be wrong. Simply put, we                                  do not know who recorded Q875, or why.<\/p>\n<p >(<em>Matthew Thomas Farrell is a regular contributor to <\/em>the jonestown report.<em> His complete collection of writings for the site may be found <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=16539\">here<\/a>. He can be contacted at <a href=\"mailto:saint@extremezone.com\">saint@extremezone.com<\/a>.)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With little doubt, one of the biggest puzzles to come out of the Jonestown tragedy in recent times is the discovery of tape Q875, which was recorded at least half a day after the deaths. 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