{"id":60586,"date":"2014-07-01T23:21:56","date_gmt":"2014-07-01T23:21:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60586"},"modified":"2016-05-02T15:05:15","modified_gmt":"2016-05-02T22:05:15","slug":"q393-summary","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60586","title":{"rendered":"Q393 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><strong>Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<p>To read the Tape Transcript, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60632\">click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (<a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q393 (Side A).mp3\">Pt. 1<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q393 (Side B).mp3\">Pt. 2<\/a>).<br \/>\nTo return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI Catalogue\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong>Jones Speaking<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>Labeled in part \u201cNews\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date cues on tape:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Likely October 1978 (reference to visit of Feodor Timofeyev, early October)<\/p>\n<p><strong>People named:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;text-indent:-125px;\"><em>Public figures\/National and international names:<\/em><br \/>\n<strong>Part 1<\/strong><br \/>\nJimmy Carter, U.S. President<br \/>\nWalter Mondale, U.S. Vice President<br \/>\nCyrus Vance, Secretary of State<br \/>\nZbigniew Brzezinski, Carter\u2019s national security advisor  <\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;\">James Callaghan, British prime minister (by reference)<br \/>\nDavid Owen, British Foreign Secretary <\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;\">Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran<br \/>\nMoshe Dayan, Israeli Foreign Minister<br \/>\nEzer Weizman, Israeli  Defense Minister<br \/>\nAnwar Sadat, president of Egypt<br \/>\nKamal Hassan Ali, Egyptian Defense Minister (by reference)<br \/>\nBoutros Boutros-Ghali, acting foreign minister of Egypt (by reference)<br \/>\nElias Sarkis, president of Lebanon (by reference)<br \/>\nHafez Al-Assad, president of Syria (by reference)<br \/>\nIan Smith, Rhodesian Prime Minister<br \/>\nKenneth David Kaunda, president of Zambia<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;\">Mao Tse Tung, leader of People\u2019s Republic of China<br \/>\nRuth Gamberg, author of <em>Red and Expert: Education in the People\u2019s Republic of China<\/em><br \/>\nFred Pincus, book reviewer<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;\">Mark Lane, Peoples Temple attorney<br \/>\nDon Freed, author and screenwriter<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;\"><strong>Part II:<\/strong><br \/>\nJimmy Carter, U.S. President<br \/>\nZbigniew Brzezinski, Carter\u2019s national security advisor<br \/>\nAdolf Hitler, German Fuhrer<br \/>\nForbes Burnham, Prime Minister of Guyana<br \/>\nFeodor Timofeyev, Consular of Soviet Union embassy in Guyana<br \/>\nLeon Trotsky, Communist activist murdered by Stalin (by reference)<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;\">Paul Robeson, American black actor, musician, activist<br \/>\nAlexander Pushkin, Russian author<br \/>\nDaniel Ellsberg, Defense Department worker who leaked Pentagon Papers<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;\">John and Barbara Moore, parents of Temple members, Jonestown visitors<br \/>\nMark Lane, Peoples Temple attorney<br \/>\nDon Freed, author and screenwriter<br \/>\nCarlton Goodlett, San Francisco physician, newspaper publisher<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;text-indent:-125px;\"><em>Temple adversaries; members of Concerned Relatives:<\/em><br \/>\n<strong>Part I and II:<\/strong><br \/>\nDebby Layton Blakey<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;text-indent:-125px;\"><em>Jonestown residents, full name unknown:<\/em><br \/>\n<strong>Part II:<\/strong><br \/>\nJeff (Carey or Wheeler)<br \/>\nJanet (likely Tupper)<br \/>\nJoyce (likely either Touchette or Parks)<br \/>\nKaren<br \/>\nKay (likely Rosas, could be Nelson)<br \/>\nRon<br \/>\nSharon<br \/>\nMother Taylor<br \/>\nTeresa (likely King)<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left:125px;text-indent:-125px;\"><em>Jonestown residents:<\/em><br \/>\n<strong>Part II<\/strong><br \/>\nSelika Bordenave<br \/>\nPatty Cartmell<br \/>\nPatricia Cartmell (speaks)<br \/>\nEddie Crenshaw<br \/>\nMiguel de Pina<br \/>\nTom Grubbs<br \/>\nJann Gurvich<br \/>\nLuvenia \u201cMom\u201d Jackson<br \/>\nShanda James<br \/>\nJohnny Moss Brown Jones<br \/>\nStephan Jones<br \/>\nTim Night Jones (speaks)<br \/>\nEvelyn Leroy<br \/>\nChristine Lucientes<br \/>\nBea Orsot<br \/>\nDon Sly<br \/>\nEtta Thompson<br \/>\nDick Tropp<br \/>\nRobin Tschetter<br \/>\nLeslie Wagner-Wilson<br \/>\nJan Wilsey<br \/>\nJoe Wilson<br \/>\nNedra Yates<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bible verses cited: <\/strong>\tNone<\/p>\n<p><strong>Summary:<\/strong>\t<\/p>\n<p>This two-part tape opens with Jim Jones reading the daily news, followed by the more significant portion of the recording, a community meeting in Jonestown. The date of the tape is uncertain \u2013 some aspects suggest that it was recorded in September, while others, such as the reference to the visit of Russian consul Feodor Timofeyev to Jonestown, point to an early October date \u2013 but whatever the date, there is evidence that the community is in decline.<\/p>\n<p>The meeting shows this more readily than the newscast. During the meeting, Jones voices a number of complaints: the checks that the seniors bring in through their Social Security payments cover only about 10% of the actual cost of taking care of them; the doctors in Georgetown as not sufficiently socialist, and Temple members who go to the capital city for medical treatment have to slip money under the table for quality care; people who go into Georgetown take advantage of being away from Jonestown and could cause trouble. \u201c[T]hey make cracks and they do their own thing and they go out on their own time, and they won\u2019t give accountability of what they\u2019re doing,\u201d he says on the last point. \u201cWe can\u2019t run an organization like that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The complaints extend to problems in Jonestown itself, problems which reveal the general malaise which had begun to take hold of the community during its last months. More and more people are getting sick, Jones notes, and he suspects some people are just \u201cgoofing off\u2026 and we\u2019re getting sick of you getting sick, \u2018cause you\u2019re sick <em>half<\/em> the time to get out of work.\u201d He complains about the periodic lack of focus on socialism, especially when people replace that by \u201clisten[ing] to jazz that runs off that radio that was made by white people to dull your hearing and hypnotize your mind.\u201d He\u2019s upset about the comments about too much structure in Jonestown. \u201cWhat is it, too much structure?\u201d he replies. \u201cStructure that keeps children from being in gangs? The structure that keeps children from \u2026 pushing drugs\u2026 taking a fix, or being in a gang, war, every goddamn night?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jones seems to have a response to everything, and almost all are critical. In response to his question about why she likes the culture in Georgetown, one woman says she recognizes that it isn\u2019t as progressive or carry the sense of unity that the culture of Jonestown has, but it is simple. \u201cIt is <em>so<\/em> simple,\u201d Jones shoots back, \u201cthat one night, the Russians may have to get on there with this Morse code and tell us to move quickly or they\u2019ll be landing with helicopters.\u2026 It\u2019s <em>so<\/em> simple that the Venezuelans could march across this border and be in Georgetown in 24 hours. That\u2019s the danger of disorganization, and simplicity, and confusion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, Jones seems unwilling to give people anything that can hang onto. When the same young woman expresses her concern that she feels like a few residents have intentionally baited her \u2013 and especially one, who seems \u201clike he was setting me up to say something\u201d \u2013 Jones replies, \u201cHe could be in the committee of revolution defense. We have them all over the place.\u201d (The subject of monitoring the people of Jonestown also arises in the newscast, as when he says, \u201cWe\u2019re taking close observation these days,\u201d and indeed, he opens the news with the announcement that \u201cwe\u2019re having observers now watching work that will come up in the Peoples Forum this evening.\u201d) And the effort to discombobulate people, to keep them on guard at every moment, is intentional, as he admits. \u201c[F]ortunately I confuse people sometimes,\u201d he says. \u201cI never tell things just exactly.\u201d The admission of purposeful misdirection appears on other tapes from this period as well.<\/p>\n<p>While there have been invocations of infiltration by potential adversaries as a potential threat to Jonestown\u2019s survival, the references in this tape indicate increasing paranoia. He speaks of the CIA trying to entice people to betray them, just as they did with Debby Blakey several months earlier. He knows that someone is trying to poison him \u2013 increasingly assumed as a fact during the fall of 1978 \u2013 and \u201cthe idea that anybody\u2019d try to kill me at <em>this<\/em> stage makes me <em>highly<\/em> suspicious that we have a CIA provocateur.\u201d He expresses suspicion of people who take notes during the meetings, saying it \u201cmakes me <em>nervous<\/em> when you write down every word come out of my mouth. I wonder why you\u2019re <em>doing<\/em> it.\u201d More importantly, it demonstrates \u201canarchism, anarchy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There are a few references to death. In complaining about the commitment of his followers, he says that people put too much emphasis on their own lives. He adds that he doesn\u2019t care about his own life, and that when the times comes, \u201cI\u2019ll be glad to be free of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Still, he does recognize that all is not well in Jonestown. He acknowledges they can continue to eke out an existence, that \u201cwe can survive here, we can go on endlessly and endlessly and endlessly. That\u2019s the very reason some of you are bored,\u201d he observes, then adds, \u201cI want to give you other opportunities.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>The principal alternative he suggests, though, is emigration to the USSR. He promotes it as a place to go to avoid the repercussions of nuclear war (which is an \u201cabsolute\u201d). There are incentives to go, too, such as living in a country that has never enslaved blacks. Perhaps most importantly, they have an advocate in the form of Timofeyev, who was impressed by what he saw in Jonestown, and who has extended the invitation for them to move to the Soviet Union. <\/p>\n<p>For them to succeed, though, the people of Jonestown will need to learn the Russian language, something Jones urges both during the meeting and in the earlier newscast. <\/p>\n<p>The items in the newscast itself include:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2022 Rhodesian Prime Minister Ian Smith goes to Washington to seek financial aid;<br \/>\n\u2022 Great Britain denies reports that it plans to send weapons to Zambia to protect against Rhodesian attacks;<br \/>\n\u2022 Arab leaders meet to discuss the crisis in Beirut:<br \/>\n\u2022 President Carter is gathering Egyptian and Israeli leaders for talks;<br \/>\n\u2022 The embargo on sales of weapons to Turkey is lifted;<br \/>\n\u2022 Turkish secret police kill members of a leftwing political group;<br \/>\n\u2022 A leftist Dutch group attacks an office of Amnesty International in an effort to win better treatment for prisoners;<br \/>\n\u2022 The Shah of Iran has cut defense spending to pay striking government workers.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Jones ends the newscast with a longer reading on one subject, in this case, a review of a book on the Chinese education system. <\/p>\n<p>The newscast is typical of most of the readings from this period in other ways as well. In addition to periodic asides about the inevitability of the approaching nuclear war, Jones inserts numerous, short editorial remarks: the Soviet Union is the \u201cavant garde of liberation,\u201d while the US is the home of \u201cimperialist fascist finance capitalism,\u201d and its allies in Western Europe are lackeys. A few observations are longer, even as they are familiar to his audience. In criticizing the lifting of the arms embargo to Turkey, he says the US always has \u201c[n]o money for health, education, welfare, no money for assistance for the poor, no money for anything, schools, but always plenty of money for murderers and fascist dictators.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>The main difference in this newscast from others of the period is that Jones stumbles more often during the reading, suggesting either fatigue \u2013 which he acknowledges in the later meeting \u2013 or the results of his increasing use of drugs to keep him going.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI Summary:<\/strong>\t<\/p>\n<p>Date of transcription: 6\/18\/79<\/p>\n<p>In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n<p>On June 5, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B100-2. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n<p>Tuesday news by Reverend JIM JONES to the people at Jonestown for eleven minutes. Then the tape continues with group criticism of specific persons in People\u2019s Temple in Jonestown.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Differences with FBI Summary:<br \/>\n<\/strong><br \/>\nThe summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.\t<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tape originally posted July 2014<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To read the Tape Transcript, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1, Pt. 2). To return to the Tape Index, click here. 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