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Jones:<\/b> \u2013black people in America. And I realized that the conspiracy was in<\/em> this tragedy. And they have the program, you know, blessing plan and uh, you know all that business. You know the one sends out blessing plans and blessing thoughts and all this sort of thing. I think they call him Ike<\/em> [Frederick J. Eikerenkoetter II, better known as Reverend Ike].<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, anyway\u2013 anyway, he shows it a large audience filled with people. I knew<\/em> some of the people, I\u2013 I looked and I saw on the aisle some of the precious people that couldn\u2019t\u2013 couldn\u2019t face up to our teachings, I saw some of them sitting there, right there in the row, and I know<\/em> some of them. They never got into this church and benefited by the lovely apartments we have. By the way, we still have some more vacancies, and you must<\/em> make your applications today. Beautiful<\/em> apartments, aren\u2019t they, just gorgeous, where our people are taken care of royally. I saw some people setting on his front row, two<\/em> of whom I know, to live in a rat hovel. And they never wanted to seem to get in and work, they wanted to dream. They always wanted to dream<\/em>. We offered<\/em> them assistance, but they\u2013 they wanted to buy furs and they wanted to buy jewels<\/em>, but they never wanted to get anything done about housing for the people, or proper provisions<\/em> for the people. And I saw them setting on that front row, and one of them lives in a place that is disgustingly sick the last I knew anything about it, but because they wouldn\u2019t give up this business and get with us and work, they wanted to go around and dream, and I looked<\/em> at his whole congregation, and it\u2019s filled with people, they\u2019ll have furs wrapped around their neck, they may not own anything<\/em>, they may live in dump like these people, they had a common toilet that was stopped up, I remember, when I went to their house on one occasion, to try to get some sense across to one. They\u2019d lost two daughters due to their insanity, to the juvenile<\/em> authorities, and I was trying to get some sense across to this mother, but all she wanted to do was to trips around\u2013 traipse around and follow Reverend Ike, and spend all of her money, and so her children<\/em> had nothing. Now the greatest crime done to black people today is Reverend Ike. Here\u2019s why. He shows you a fancy building with plush seats, and he has a crown in a\u2013 in a kingly<\/em> chair, and all these seats are made of the finest<\/em> kind of material, and gold<\/em>, two hundred thousand dollars\u2019 worth of gold. \u2018Course it\u2019s not paid<\/em> for, but it\u2019s all up there. All that\u2013 and the white<\/em> man looks in on that, and he feels that the black man has already arrived. It\u2019s a false sense of uh, understanding. He looks at those pictures and he thinks the black there, where they\u2019ve got furs, they must have good jobs<\/em>, they must have good homes<\/em>, they must have the best of everything<\/em>, and it\u2019s the greatest enemy in the hands of the white man, because he looks at Reverend Ike and he gets resentful, and so he votes \u2013 there\u2019re more of them that there are of us still \u2013 and so they vote against every thing that would give us more civil rights. I say Reverend Ike is not only not good for the people, he\u2019s a curse<\/em> against the people. <\/p>\n

Archie Ijames<\/b> That\u2019s right. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises) Because the white man looks in on those gold ceilings and looks in on that fancy royal chair, and sees Reverend Ike saying\u2013 Though this morning he said, I\u2019m taken care of nicely, he said, you take care of me, nicely<\/em>, or you don\u2019t take care of me. You gotta take care of me nicely. Thousand dollars a week, he says, \u2018s gotta be given to him for clothes alone. And the think black people have money growing on trees<\/em>, but the average white man looking does not know that some of those black people that are wrapped around in furs are trying to cover up their loneliness, cover up their nakedness, cover up their lack of jobs, cover up the destitution of their neighborhoods, they\u2019re trying to live in a make<\/em>-believe world, but the white man that looks at that TV program thinks that the black man\u2019s already arrived, and he becomes resentful, and he causes his congressman and all of the legislators to stand up and fight against more power to the black people. So I say\u2013 uh, I wouldn\u2019t be surprised if such movements are not paid by sinister, corrupt and racist elements of the white society. I would not be at all<\/em> surprised if they\u2019re not kept going<\/em> by sinister racist elements of the white society that want the white people to look at the blacks and be resentful, (voice moderates) because actually, to look at Reverend Ike\u2019s congregation, you would think<\/em>, from appearances, it was the most prosperous in the world. But you notice when he gets these testimonies \u2013 there\u2019s where you can tell \u2013 someone\u2019ll get up and testify about making five hundred dollars a week and having a sil\u2013 a selfish\u2013 a wife, a Babylonish wife, a Jezebel for a wife (mainly in 1 Kings and 2 Kings, but greatest condemnation in Revelation 2:20-21, \u201cNotwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.\u201d)<\/span> like the one this morning had to have fine things and fine clothes, wanted to live with the white neighborhood, she said, I just think rich, and to get rich. But you notice when she\u2013 they say that, the people\u2019re not clapping (claps gently). It\u2019s just a mumble, \u2018cause uh, he can\u2013 uh, he can pick out anybody<\/em> that has as many people as he does, can pick out\u2013 I can pick out some people here, who had fine homes. (Pause) I can pick out Joyce Rozynko over there. Stand up. White woman. Nurse. Beautiful<\/em> home. She gave it to the people in Redwood Valley, and she lives in a very simple dwelling so that her home could be shared by black and white alike.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. I could take you to attorney [Eugene] Chaikin, who had fine cars and fine homes and fine clothes. He gave that up and gave his home up so it could be shared by the people. I could take you to Tim Stoen in this room, a fine white attorney, assistant district attorney. He had a beautiful sports car, he gave it up<\/em>. (Pause) I could show you a lot of black people here who\u2019ve got fine homes, but they share them, twenty and thirty of people come in regularly. Sure<\/em>, you could pick out a few people. I\u2019d have enough here to run me for five years<\/em>. I could have a testimony a day of what people have done just with money<\/em>. But we haven\u2019t done it selfishly<\/em>. I could point to Sister Paula who\u2019s all of her bones were broken. And I healed them, when they said she couldn\u2019t even get on her feet before four years, and now she\u2019s won a sweepstake<\/em> ticket. I could point<\/em> to her and make an example, but what would she do with her money? She\u2019ll give it to the cause of human beings. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You understand what I\u2019m saying. Anybody<\/em> could pick out one person to stand up and be a demonstration<\/em> of prosperity, but if you really want to catch where the wind<\/em> is blowing, they\u2019re all dreaming, because if you\u2019ll look out over the audience\u2013 and of course, not all of you have my gift, but I can look out over that audience, and I see those black people who want to be there, but they aren\u2019t there. Some of them won\u2019t even go through it. He tries to snap the right pictures \u2013 he\u2019s got a good television crew \u2013 but every once in a while, you see a young man, just grimacing, and an older woman just weeping, and you\u2019ll see someone just setting there as sullen as they can be, because naturally, everyone wants to identify with riches when they\u2019re in poverty. (Pause) Do you see what I\u2019m trying to say to you? We must stop<\/em> this kind of thing, because it\u2019s an enemy<\/em> against black rights in America today. It\u2019s an enemy against progress. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You must try to educate your friends, your relatives, that what Ike is doing<\/em> to them\u2013 he shows them one<\/em> picture of one<\/em> church in New York City, that\u2019s not paid for\u2013 or p\u2013 now the ceiling isn\u2019t. The building is, I guess. But he\u2019s got no homes for the aged, he has no senior citizen homes, he has no convalescent sanatorium, he doesn\u2019t have one person getting an education. Peoples Temple has a hundred and nine students \u2013 you<\/em>, you \u2013 because you weren\u2019t selfish, because you weren\u2019t like that Jezebel I saw this morning on his program, that had to have fine jewels, push her husband, and he said, uh, uh, Ike told a lie. You mark it. He said this man will prosper that\u2019s going into business this morning. That man\u2019s going to lose his shirt. Oh, I wish I could get to him. I wish his mind wasn\u2019t bedoggled with all that foolishness. He says, now when you go in, I visualize<\/em> success. That man\u2019s going to lose everything he\u2019s got. (Pause) Everything he\u2019s got. Peace. He had a man on the program today that was going to get into the Caterpillar business and gonna make a fortune<\/em>, he said. And his wife\u2019s pushing<\/em> him to get up there and live with white folk, and he\u2019s gonna lose everything. And he\u2019ll be dead before three years. Young<\/em> man. And I\u2019ll tell you, it\u2019s the greatest mistreatment of truth I\u2019ve ever seen in my life. It\u2019s a great mistreatment. Certainly there\u2019s uh, rules of law in visualization, but to visualize<\/em> for selfish reasons is death<\/em>. Did you hear what I said? If you visualize to s\u2013 be selfish, you\u2019re gonna die<\/em>, because those that are selfish always end up losing. <\/p>\n

Scattered in Congregation:<\/b> Right. (Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And he said, we want all we can get. He says, you look out over the crowd this morning and say, it breaks my heart, how bad<\/em> these days are. If you don\u2019t believe we ought to run for safety to the rock that is higher than you, you ought to listen to this man (Psalm 61:2, \u201cFrom the end of the earth will I cry unto thee, when my heart is overwhelmed: lead me to the rock that is higher than I.\u201d), if you don\u2019t believe you should seek out the rock that we know<\/em> to be a refuge in the time of storm (Isaiah 25:4, \u201cFor thou hast been a strength to the poor, a strength to the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shadow from the heat, when the blast of the terrible ones is as a storm against the wall.\u201d)<\/span>. He looked out and says, my, aren\u2019t we a greedy people. (Pause) Greed<\/em> is supposed to go in the first stages of growth with God. My, aren\u2019t we a greedy people. (Pause) He said it, so help me, Jehosophat, \u2018cause I can\u2019t ask the other fella to help me because that\u2019d be calling more work on myself. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Delayed and scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You<\/em> can say so help you God, but when I do that, I know who\u2019s gonna have to do the work. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter, applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You didn\u2019t\u2013 that passed over, all right, let it pass over and not settle down. Say, well, who\u2019s Jehosophat? Nobody. That\u2019s why I said it. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Jehosophat doesn\u2019t exist. He\u2019s not gonna help me. If anybody gets any help for you, I will have to bring it.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> But this criminal<\/em> act \u2013 I said a criminal<\/em> act \u2013 to put on that showcase of a building that has got two hundred thousand dollars worth of gold<\/em> on the ceiling, not paid for. (Pause) And then the TV camera comes in, and shows that as where Black America is. Every white man gonna rise. He\u2019s always<\/em> looking for excuses anyway. He\u2019s looking for any excuse he can to hate, and he sees Ike in those fancy clothes, he says, those black people are getting the jobs. They\u2019re getting better jobs than we are. They\u2019re getting better government jobs. You hear the lie the white man tells all the time. He says black people get the best state<\/em> jobs, they get the best federal<\/em> jobs, and so the white man looks in and says, look<\/em> at all those blacks. Only he says something else. He says, look at them. I\u2019m telling you, I believe that the Ku Klux Klan and ac\u2013 activists of the\u2013 of the militant right, of the far radical extreme right, the fanatics of bigotry, the fanatics of prejudice, I believe they put money in that outfit. From the depths of my heart, I believe they put money<\/em> in that outfit. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s the only reason he could pay for his building<\/em>, because he doesn\u2019t own a senior citizen home, he doesn\u2019t own a children\u2019s home, he doesn\u2019t educate a one, he never takes in a child, unless it is for s\u2013 ulterior purposes. He\u2019s never uh, educated one<\/em>, he doesn\u2019t have a convalescent sanatorium, he doesn\u2019t have any land, all he\u2019s got\u2019s fancy Rolls Royces, they load his Rolls Royce off of an airplane, and it\u2019s got pink kinda cushioning<\/em>, \u2018cause some of our folks saw it. And a great big flower on it, painted, forty-some thousand dollars in the Roll Royce that comes off, and one time his dog<\/em> was left, and he sent a jet<\/em> back to bring the dog<\/em>. All over this nation\u2013 Sure<\/em>, he could find somebody that got a little increase in job. He\u2019s got his lie everywhere. He oughta be able to find fifty a week<\/em>, \u2018cause his lie goes all over the world. And all he can do is drag up one<\/em> a case\u2013 one case every week. That\u2019s all he can show you, is one<\/em> case every week of somebody that\u2019s supposed to\u2019ve been prospering. And by the time you see the TV, they\u2019re already broke. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter, applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I know what I\u2019m talking<\/em> about. I looked at one of those programs once and saw somebody on there, I studied. I study my enemy. (Pause) Say, your enemy? Yes. That\u2019s the enemy. That\u2019s<\/em> the enemy. The love of money. He called himself greedy. That\u2019s the antichrist system, the love of money which is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10, \u201cFor the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.\u201d).<\/span> He said we don\u2019t want any Black Power. We want green power. Honey, if we don\u2019t get some black power, we won\u2019t have no green power. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So help me, our staff was looking on the scene of a woman that was very uh, (Pause) what\u2019s her name? Shepherd, I think, but I\u2019m not positive of that. We\u2019re looking on the scene, had somebody up there talking about her prosperity, and she\u2019d always been fighting us up in the Bay Area, and by the time I\u2013 they must film these television programs several weeks beforehand, she was dead<\/em> and had been buried in a Baptist church, two<\/em> weeks then<\/em>. (Pause) She\u2019d been in the grave for two weeks, and she was up there on the TV. I saw the same thing happen to uh, Reverend uh, Oral Roberts one time, he had somebody up there praising about being healed, and they were dead in Evansville, Indiana, been dead for three weeks.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Light applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> But at least<\/em> Oral Roberts \u2013 he lives high on the hog \u2013 but at least he\u2019s got a university. At least what he prospers, it\u2019s not gonna hurt us. White man can\u2019t look at him and say he\u2019s black, \u2018cause he don\u2019t look black at all. None of his people look black. All you can see for the most part\u2019s white in Oral Roberts University. Certainly the controlling Board of Trustees is all<\/em> white. So that\u2019s not gonna hurt us. But when somebody gets up and says, we\u2019re prospering<\/em>, we got green<\/em> power, that we\u2019re all successful<\/em>, puts a picture like that out to America, it\u2019s a great crime<\/em>. And I hope somebody wakes up and stops<\/em> him\u2013<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Say, you<\/em> can stop him. I can stop him if the people want him stopped. But the prophets lie, and the people would have it so (Jeremiah 27]<\/span>.<\/p>\n

Ijames:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I look at this great assembly that has its building paid for and these two beautiful apartments that\u2019re available to them, where they can go, and there\u2019s still room for you. Those rents are modest. Modest rents, lovely places, aren\u2019t they beautiful places?<\/p>\n

Ijames:<\/b> Yes, they are.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises) And I\u2019ve never see him make one plan. And then you can move to your own<\/em> property, wherever you need to in Redwood Valley. You can eat at our vine at any time you choose (2 Kings 18:31, \u201cHearken not to Hezekiah: for thus saith the king of Assyria, Make an agreement with me by a present, and come out to me, and then eat ye every man of his own vine, and every one of his fig tree, and drink ye every one the waters of his cistern:\u201d; also Isaiah 36:16, Isaiah 37:30, Isaiah 65:21)<\/span>. You can come in our house whenever<\/em> you care to. We will find a bed for you if you come without warning<\/em>. And I think it is a crime that our people are so blind, so deaf and so dumb, that they will let a man stand up and say, I\u2019m greedy<\/em>. Sure, I want all the best things of life. I want to use everything I can use. I am amazed<\/em> at the ignorance of our people. Then you tell me we don\u2019t have to run to the rock that is higher than you (Psalm 61:2)? You don\u2019t have to find the shelter in the time of storm (Isaiah 25:4)<\/span> ? You better wake up, \u2018cause just one look, just one look at that mess will show you what they\u2019re gonna cook up for us. You go out and ask what white America thinks about Reverend Ike. Say, (uses voice of stereotype white racist) yeah, that\u2019s what happens, the black people gettin\u2019 the money, gettin\u2019 the best jobs, (reverts to his voice) and all the persons\u2019 got any money in the place is him. The rest of \u2018em just put on a fancy fur. I\u2019ve seen people come out of a rathole with a fur on. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We have some people in our church, Browns, I think their names, some children, Brown children. And their parents are followers of Ike. And they got diamonds on, but it isn\u2019t safe. It isn\u2019t safe. They want out of that neighborhood. The mother\u2019s too selfish to let them come. And we\u2019re working on it. They want to move<\/em>, because it\u2019s so unsafe. It\u2019s criminal<\/em> how unsafe it is. We have a young woman here today that wants to go to Redwood Valley. We\u2019re going to take her north. A gang tried to kill her, right here in Los Angeles. Tried to kill her, we took her brother last week uh, because he was being molested, threatened w\u2013 his life threatened, just a child, just a child, because he wouldn\u2019t join a gang. Well, this last few days, I\u2019ve believe this is correct \u2013 correct me if I\u2019m wrong \u2013 a gang killed another girl thinking it was her. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Is that correct?<\/p>\n

Voices in Congregation:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Where is\u2013 Where is the situation, you can bear record of it, is it\u2013 are they in counsel? <\/p>\n

Voices in Congregation:<\/b> too soft<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hmm? Are you listening to me? You people know that you\u2019re the one\u2013 Where is the young lady? Where is the young lady?<\/p>\n

Voices in Congregation:<\/b> too soft<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hmm? <\/p>\n

Voices in Congregation:<\/b> too soft<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Inside. All right. <\/p>\n

Several voices: <\/b>(unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> There. Now this\u2013 is this the case? That someone was killed, they thought that was you. Well, we\u2019re gonna get you out of this mess. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And then\u2013 and then we get somebody stand up there pretending\u2013 uh, that\u2019s why I look around\u2013 Sometimes I don\u2019t know what I know in the knowledge, and I think other people know it, and then you look at me funny, because you don\u2019t know it and I\u2019ve got it in here, and uh, I expect you to know what I\u2013 Well, she<\/em> knows I know what I\u2019m talking about, \u2018cause she just stood up. She hadn\u2019t told me<\/em> that, but I\u2013 I know, and I want her to be assured that she\u2019ll have a place. And I don\u2019t know whether I made myself clear, sometimes I don\u2019t know whether I\u2019ve spoken in advance about it, because I know things in advance, and I have not even yet told<\/em> them that she doesn\u2019t even know she\u2019s going north. Well, you\u2019re going north, child, if you want to. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Raises voice) They\u2019re killing people in the streets. Our bus drivers can\u2019t ride down the road. Can\u2019t ride down the road because of violence, they\u2019re giving them guns, our people don\u2019t have proper housing, they don\u2019t have proper jobs, there\u2019s not even proper lighting in the neighborhood, we don\u2019t have enough to eat on, we don\u2019t have proper medicine, people\u2013 we had to pay out hundreds<\/em> of dollars to get people their ordinary shots because they couldn\u2019t afford them. And then Reverend Ike get up and say we\u2019re all living in a blessing. Lying dog<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I hope you understand the point and why you should resist him, and you should write that television stations and tell them to get the stinking mess off the air, because it\u2019s doing us harm<\/em>. Everything that comes up for proposal, we\u2019ve heard his name whipped around. Our attorneys has heard his name whipped around. They\u2019ll say, look<\/em> at that Reverend Ike, when they want to get improvement<\/em> for housing, or want to get urban renewal or a special back\u2013 black business program, they\u2019ll say, look<\/em> at him, they\u2019re already doing it. They\u2019re getting all the money anyway. They\u2019re getting the best federal jobs. Look<\/em> at Reverend Ike. I tell you, we oughta look at him until he gets out of the way. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2018Cause any old white man or bigot, whoever they are, any bigoted person, they want to look<\/em> for reasons to justify their bigotry. So you open up a great picture\u2013 I wouldn\u2019t show \u2018em, I wouldn\u2019t show the bigots all we black people have. I wouldn\u2019t take a TV camera up to Redwood Valley and show them our children\u2019s home. No<\/em>, I wouldn\u2019t. I wouldn\u2019t take a TV camera to show them our greens or our cave or our catfish. I wouldn\u2019t take<\/em> a camera\u2013 a television camera up there to show them our children\u2019s home, our forty acres, or our four senior citizen homes, or our two convalescent sanatoriums, or our four college dormitories, or our one hundred and nine students, because if we did, they would try to do everything they could to stop us. I don\u2019t want anything but to get out of our way. I want them out of the way.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Ijames:<\/b> Yes, yes, yes.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They look at Jones\u2019 family, this precious black family. Say, well, I\u2019m not black, I\u2019m white. Oh, no, you\u2019re black, you\u2019re in here, you\u2019re lifting the burden, you identify with the people that\u2019re oppressed, you\u2019re black. I don\u2019t care if you are as white as the driven snow. You\u2019re black if you\u2019re in here. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Say, I\u2019m Mexican, I\u2019m not black. Well, you go down and see how they\u2019ve killed a few of these Mexicans off these days, and you watch what\u2019s c\u2013 happening to Mexicans, you\u2019ll<\/em> decide you\u2019re black too.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Somebody told me, said\u2013 Sister said, I was resentful<\/em> because I\u2019m Mexican. Says Governor [Edmund \u201cPat\u201d] Brown \u2013 and I\u2019ve been on that ever since I heard that \u2013 said Governor Brown said we were not black, and the black were black and we were not. They c\u2013 They\u2019d list us as being white. Does it get you white jobs? <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> No.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Does it get you nice white housing? Does it get you nice white money? Then honey, I don\u2019t care what Governor Brown put on your birth record, you\u2019re still just one of us.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They did that to divide the poor people anyway. They afraid of all that Mexican\u2013 And actually, Mexicans suffer greatly, terribly. In Texas, they\u2019re more discriminated against than any<\/em> people. But a lot of \u2018em still sayin\u2019, I\u2019m white. Huh? When they gonna wake up and find out? <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Scattered laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah, there\u2019re folk (stumbles over words), I got some blacks in here think they\u2019re white too. But honey, you just gonna have to look in the mirror again.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Racial consciousness have to be developed. Sure, a Reverend Ike moves along smoothly. He\u2019s in no danger, because he\u2019s being a puppet of the system, he\u2019s being promoted by the lying dogs of the oppressor. But I\u2019ll tell you one<\/em> thing. The liberators will find<\/em> this kind one day. They\u2019ll find<\/em> this kind one day. He degraded Black Power today, he degraded everything that stands for black progress, he made light of it, and laughed<\/em>. (Pause) That\u2019s an enemy<\/em>. That is an enemy of the cause of righteousness. (Pause) I hope you are he\u2013 I hope you\u2019re hearing me.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now do you understand the question? I\u2013 I know I was taking offering, but all our offerings won\u2019t do us any good unless we have a consciousness. (Pause) Unless we know what we\u2019re doing, we can take all the money till our s\u2013 Well, I won\u2019t say that. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You\u2019ve gotta know<\/em> what you\u2019re doing, you\u2019ve gotta know what you\u2019re working<\/em> for, you have to know what your purpose is. (Pause) We have this discussion of King Alfred Plan<\/a> here, we have the discussion of there is a choice, that the pra\u2013 past cabinet just approved, which will be the total annihilation of the black race. We had this man, Nussbaum, come to me and say, Jones, you and [Ralph] Nader are the two most feared people in this country. I thought, well, if this isn\u2019t something. All we\u2019ve got, just a little church here, and a little church in L\u2013 San Francisco, a few thousand people and a little bit of land, and they fear<\/em> us. That speaks bad if there\u2019s only two left that they fear. Man that\u2019d worked with the CIA told us that. (Pause) I just gave you his name. Peace. (Pause) I hope you\u2019re listening, \u2018cause I\u2019m telling you that there\u2019s a plan to destroy the black man, and Reverend Ike is helping them pick up the dagger. He\u2019s helping them pick up the sh\u2013 up the guns<\/em> that will do it. The man who hates looks for reasons to justify his hatred, so he looks in all that glorious Ike\u2019s uh, trim on his clothes, they\u2019ll be made of gold, his s\u2013 kingly seat, he\u2019s got a royal crown over his seat in gold. (Pause) And they look in and see all that, and they say, black people don\u2019t need any more money for education, black people don\u2019t need any more money for jobs, black people don\u2019t need any more uh, money for h\u2013 health, welfare, black people don\u2019t need any more money, period<\/em>. And you tell me, he\u2019s not a plan? He\u2019s a plant? Yes, he\u2019s a plant.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Calls out) He\u2019s a plant. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Calls out) He\u2019s planted, right in our midst. (Moderates, still intense) Right behind him, you look who come, when he comes in the town, you look who\u2019s behind him. Say, he\u2019s gonna sue you. I wish he would. I\u2019d like to take him on.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> One of our sisters got up to testify how she was healed of cancer, \u2018cause every\u2013 he won\u2019t c\u2013 he won\u2019t get into these healing open testimony meetings around us. He gets nervous. Because he comes to San Francisco and Lo\u2013 Los Angeles, he never knows which one of us gonna be up there on the platform with him. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So they get three people to screen everybody, and they\u2019ll ask<\/em> \u2018em if they\u2019re affiliated with the\u2013 us, they\u2019ll ask them, do you know anything about Reverend Jones? \u2018Cause he knows that any one of those Jonesites that gets up there gone tell the folks<\/em> something. And our people got right up, and he uh, fouled up one of his whole television programs. One of our folks got right up in the middle of it, said Jim Jones healed me of cancer, Jim Jones does this for the poor, Jim Jones did this, and had all that television camera uh\u2013 all of it ready, they had to cut it out.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He looked over and he said, how did this\u2013 Uh, he looked over and said, how\u2019d this bitch get through here? That\u2019s what was said. But do you know who does all of screening? Big pro archetype criminal-looking people, white. (Pause) You<\/em> been there, you seen it. Look at these guys around in the background. I\u2019ll tell you, there big money behind him. Big<\/em> money. So that he can be used to deceive many. Say, how\u2019d he pay for the building? He wouldna paid for a building<\/em>, even, he wouldn\u2019t put anything in a building, he\u2019d take it all to himself, if they didn\u2019t have the part of their program is that they have to have a nice building to show the American people so that they\u2019ll believe the black man is well off when he\u2019s not well off. (Pause) I don\u2019t think some of you are following me, I\u2019m gonna keep after you till I wake you up here this morning.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Big<\/em> money. You\u2019ll find racist money, big money, the kind of money that\u2019s killed [John] Kennedy, the kind of money that\u2019s killed Malcolm [X], the kind of money that\u2019s killed Martin [Luther King, Jr.]. You\u2019ll see it right behind him, that put these TV cameras and the big church, because if Ike had his way, he wouldn\u2019t se\u2013 he wouldn\u2019t give a crust of bread to a dying person, he wouldn\u2019t give a crust<\/em> of bread to somebody starving to death.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Say, I came here and I didn\u2019t want to hear about Ike. I knew it, and that\u2019s why I\u2019m preaching it. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So you don\u2019t believe there\u2019s a problem in America, you don\u2019t have to look at what the white man\u2019s saying, and he\u2019s saying a-plenty in the religious circles. He\u2019s saying a-plenty about his hatred. You\u2019ll listen to the radio\u2013 religious broadcast and they\u2019re talking about sending blacks back to Africa. Just a few weeks ago, they were passing out lo\u2013 newsletters all through Beverly Hills, to do away with the black people, to send them away. Then Reverend Ike gettin\u2019 up and sayin\u2019, (imitates Rev. Ike\u2019s voice) ahh, everybody is blessed. Ah, isn\u2019t that wonderful, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He\u2019s got the laugh of the devil. He can laugh at the most miserable times. People settin\u2019 out there, hopin\u2019, visualizing, praying, and trying to do the gift of things he says, seeing certificates, bonds. He says see all that money in your safe. Some of \u2018em don\u2019t even know what a safe is. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They got no safe. And then he tells them all that right in the middle, he go, (imitates Rev. Ike\u2019s voice) ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Then he\u2019ll go (pantomimes)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Say, why don\u2019t you preach on some of the rest of \u2018em? I haven\u2019t got no time to preach on people not hurtin\u2019 us. I don\u2019t care anything about Ike. I preach against the thing that hurts we who are the oppressed. We who have been put down. And he\u2019s the uh, greatest enemy of the people today I know in American life, he\u2019s the greatest enemy of the people. Now you better mark your word, he\u2019s the greatest enemy.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They\u2019ll use him. They\u2019ll use him just like they used the old s\u2013 the old Judasgoat<\/em>. You know how they used the Judasgoat, to lead the sheep<\/em>. The Judasgoat will baa-baa-baa, and lead \u2018em right up into the slaughter, and then the goats\u2013 the sheep will fall down, have their head knocked off or fall into the steaming vats of uh, water that will burn them alive, and I\u2019ll tell you one thing, and I don\u2019t care if he sues me, old Ike is nothing but a damnable Judasgoat.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> When I think of it, it crushes me that people are so ignorant. Shows just where we are. Had one of \u2018em in our midst yesterday, had to make uh\u2013 make cognizant to my s\u2013 one of my ushers, they said if you\u2019re gonna say anything about Reverend Ike, I\u2019m not gonna stay here. Well, you\u2019ll just not gonna stay here then, because I\u2019ll say what I please. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I hope you\u2019ve got this picture embedded in your mind, so you can help your relatives, wherever they are, and let them see<\/em> the truth<\/em> of the matter. Here we\u2019re having jobs all uh, the\u2013 the various programs for the blacks been done\u2013 done away with. OEO\u2019s programs cut down to nothing. Urban renewal gone. Even trying to cut in on HUD now. Done away with all the job training programs. Everything the black man uh, worked so hard, and the Mexicans and Indians worked so hard to get, now it\u2019s been cut up till there\u2019s hardly nothing left of it. Housing schemes that\u2019ve been started, and uh, they were federal projects given back to private wealthy white interests. And then we come on each Sunday and see a picture of Ike with people wrapped around with furs and diamonds, they may be living in a rathole, where they\u2019re using a common toilet, and the people look at that and say, that\u2019s<\/em> where the black man is. The white man who doesn\u2019t have it, he looks on that church, \u2018cause it\u2019s the fanciest church you\u2019ll see. All these white TV programs, you don\u2019t see as much fanciness as you see there. So they\u2019re putting him up<\/em>, they\u2019re putting him up to make things look better than they are, so the white man\u2019ll set off and look at it and hate, and believe me, he does. When he looks at all that, and he thinks everybody there\u2019s got a Cadillac, when they may not even have the money to get home on a bus. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The white man hates it. And that\u2019s exactly what the system wants. So I say, he\u2019s a plant. You say, how do you know it? It came to me with a startling bolt of revelation. I felt to turn him on today when I was listening to the news account about how bad off the country is, and it\u2019s so bad that nobody can even be able to talk to make it clear. It\u2019s so bad no one can even describe how bad it is. I just had contact with someone [in] the high echelons of the military, high in the uh\u2013 one of the high offices of the military, said he expects the army to take over any time. (Pause) Your Chronicle<\/em>, the Times<\/em> said this last week, that the military\u2013 uh, they\u2019re looking for the military, the army to back up [President Richard] Nixon at any<\/em> time. And then Ike standing on there saying, (imitates Rev. Ike\u2019s voice) ah, we\u2019re blessing green power, (uses own voice) they\u2019ll use that rascal before they kill him, they\u2019ll use him to lead our people right into the concentration camps<\/a>. That\u2019s why I hate it so, they\u2019ll use him to lead all of our sheep, to lead them right into the uh, death trap. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I hope you\u2019ve got it in your heart. I hope it\u2019s gripping you so that you\u2019ll tell your friends, you\u2019ll tell your relatives what this means<\/em>. (Pause) Say, what can we do about it? A lot. Just wake up. It\u2019s a shame in 1973 that a man like him that can even survive<\/em> in New York. He keeps saying, I\u2019m not in Harlem. I\u2019m not in Harlem. Sure will, he wouldn\u2019t be able to live<\/em> in Harlem. He\u2019d have to stay out of Harlem, \u2018cause he wouldn\u2019t stay alive<\/em> in Harlem.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You\u2019ll notice on his broadcast, he\u2019ll keep saying, our\u2013 our church is not in Harlem. Certainly, it\u2019s not in Harlem<\/em>. They\u2019d burn the church down. Some of those bigots that\u2019ve worked on us from the other<\/em> side, some of the bigots that are on the side of wanting change<\/em>, but want to do it through violence, they\u2019d burn him down quick. His day\u2019s gonna come, though. I\u2019m not worried about him, because all of these folk\u2013 all these type of people reap what they sow (Galatians 6:7, \u201cBe not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.\u201d).<\/span> But what I\u2019m concerned about, how many people\u2019s he gonna lead astray in the meantime? (Pause) How long\u2019s Reverend Ike been around? Twenty-five years? Long time. All over this nation, they\u2019ve backed him in TV programs all over this nation. He\u2019s been preaching from Boston, Massachusetts at least, 20 to 25 years. At least 20, 25 years. Now he\u2019s all over the nation, and not one acre of ground has he provided for anybody. Not one room<\/em> for an old person. Not one room for a college student. And this morning, you setting here, you should be moved to help and to work and take on projects, because you have a hundred and nine students. You\u2019ve got two<\/em> of your sons in Mexico, studying to be doctors [including Larry Schacht], to come back and give you free medicine. You\u2019ve got four senior citizen homes, two convalescent centers\u2013 (Voice catches) Oh. A community center, forty acres of children\u2019s home, all these things that we\u2019re acquiring for the people<\/em>, because we\u2019re not taking up money for anniversaries or preachers\u2019 birthdays or any of that other foolishness. We\u2019re helping the people<\/em>. We\u2019re putting the money back in the people\u2019s<\/em> hands.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, I\u2019ve preached my sermon. How many will give one thousand, how many will get a thousand dollars, \u2018cause we\u2013 (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> \u2013own a rug look like termites have eaten through because we wanted to keep some fish alive. We brought them\u2013 we brought a big aquarium in, to give life for little things, people to get these little fish and then they throw them apart\u2013 aside, and so I keep it there, and it just all rotted out, right around to the stone floor, but underneath it\u2019s stone, so what\u2019s the difference? We got a stone block building. No wood in it. (Pause) But my wiring\u2019s bad, and it gets hot<\/em> up there. I mean, it gets hot up there in the\u2013 in certain part of the year, but it\u2019s a beautiful time, because in the summer at night, the wind comes in and you have that cool<\/em>, cool evening. No matter how hot it is in the day, it\u2019s always cool in the evening. And more than that, you don\u2019t have that oppressive smog that you have here. I\u2019m having to take deep breaths right now, and the smog is\u2013 they say nothing thi\u2013 this weekend, I wonder why.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They said it\u2019s zero<\/em>\u2013 They said it\u2019s zero<\/em> smog. Said they uh, didn\u2019t expect it this time of the year, but yesterday it was zero smog<\/em>. But there\u2019s still enough elements in the air and in the dust and from the rugs here, that your breathing<\/em> is more difficult here than it is in Redwood Valley. Anybody that knows how to breathe \u2013 and you all do \u2013 oughta know that\u2013 <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause<\/p>\n

(Pause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hmm, what is it? You wake up breathing hard. Yes, you will. (Pause) What was I saying? That smog. (Pause) I say, if you\u2013 you want to know the difference between me and Reverend Ike, you come up and take a look at my house. I gave all of my clothes away last Wednesday. One of our sisters down there that sings, she\u2019s wearing my sweater, a lot of the time, you\u2019ll see her, Sister Grace. I gave my clothes away because I didn\u2019t need anything but these blue shirts. I didn\u2019t need anything but two pairs of pants, that\u2019s what I\u2019ve got now. (Pause) Who needs them? I switched these, Sister Wilson takes them, cleans them, I use uh\u2013 uh, what do I need with more than two. These pairs of pants, you know how long it\u2019s been? She hasn\u2019t seen these in cleaning shop for several weeks. Sister Wilson, have you? You gone take them today, \u2018cause they\u2019re so stiff, that they could walk without me. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) I wear pants the same\u2013 these clip-on ties. What do I need with that stuff? Say, they want that\u2013 Oh, I don\u2019t want it, when I see people in hunger, and I see some of my older people here, one little lady come up and just wanted to\u2013 she wanted to kneel down in the apartment and kiss my feet, I said, don\u2019t you\u2013 get\u2013 get up off of your feet. But that makes me\u2013 my heart sad when some of our people have to live in ratholes. I wouldn\u2019t want any more clothes. What do I need than\u2013 more than two pairs of pants. So I just give \u2018em all away. And everything I ever had<\/em> was given to me. Healed the sick in South America, they gave me clothes from there, I gave it all away. Healed the sick in Hawaii, and they gave me shirts, one woman was blind, gave me a shirt, beautiful shirt, I gave it away. Don\u2019t have anything from Hawaii anymore. \u2018Cause what do I want but the freedom of my people. I want my people free<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So you come up for Thanksgiving, because we always have Thanksgiving holiday, and we\u2019ll have special<\/em> provisions. And if we run outta chicken, I\u2019ll tell you\u2013 or turkey, like we did the last time, I just spoke the word (claps once), and more turkey came.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Guess it was chicken. More chicken came, just like that. Just<\/em> like that. Say, how do you do those things? Well, I know one, there\u2019s (unintelligible word) a man still crazy in Mississippi, \u2018cause his chickens went flyin\u2019 by him. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And that\u2019s a beautiful story, I cannot tell it to too many, \u2018cause many wouldn\u2019t understand it, but it\u2019s a beautiful story, a great st\u2013 and true story about that man in Mississippi that was in the Ku Klux Klan. We were short of chicken<\/em> last uh\u2013 last Thanksgiving, weren\u2019t we?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We had, oh so many hundreds, well\u2013 well of the\u2013 two (stumbles over words)\u2013 coupla thousand packed in that place, and they run outta chicken, our precious people did, said we got no more meat<\/em>, and I said oh no, and they had the same thing at Christmas and they had the same thing at Thanksgiving, and at Christmas, I said, open the ovens, and they found roasts. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I would rather you did not make me work<\/em> that way. I wish you\u2019d bring enough meat so I don\u2019t have to work that way. But uh\u2013 because it takes a lot of energy to do it, there not a person on earth<\/em> can do that. Least I thought I\u2019ll kill two birds with one stone, I looked over at Mississippi, and I said, I need some chicken. (Pause) And you rea\u2013 you heard it on the radio, some of our folks heard it on the radio. Said somebody down there in a chicken\u2013 chicken farm, all of a sudden, his chickens just disappeared. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And there was only chicken I spared, and you saw on that day, it was a rooster<\/em>. And he looked at that old man that was the head of that klavern of the Ku Klux Klan, and that old rooster said, \u201cHonky!\u201d<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) He around trying to tell people in Mississippi that a rooster talked to him. (Pause) So that one rooster, we spared him, he\u2019s still walking through the yard, you can see him, big, beautiful rooster, red comb. We spared him because he had the good sense when he was flying out to say, \u201cHonky!\u201d<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They got the power, we have to develop<\/em> the power. It\u2019s taken me all my life<\/em> to develop the power that I have. It\u2019s taken us all of our life<\/em> to get this thing together. You don\u2019t get<\/em> it by just standing up and m\u2013 meditating or visualizing, or going through some of that other\u2013 I won\u2019t say it tonight, I\u2019m gonna be good.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) (Cries out) You have<\/em> to work your way into a salvation. You have to work with fear<\/em> and trembling<\/em> (Philippians 2:12, Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.\u201d),<\/span> you have to work hard to get what I\u2019ve got and what you\u2019ve got. It didn\u2019t\u2013 (Voice drops) Oh, don\u2019t think I come into it easy to be able to cut cancers away, or to cut those crippling conditions away, the woman that couldn\u2019t walk on Friday, or the woman yesterday that was so crippled up that I healed. Don\u2019t think it came easy. I\u2019ve been working on it for a half century in this body. It doesn\u2019t come easy<\/em>. (Pause) Freedom doesn\u2019t come easy. We\u2019ve got to get out there and sweat for it. (Pause) We don\u2019t need no Reverend Ike to be used by the honkies, say, look at that. That\u2019s what they really got. They\u2019ve got all that money. We don\u2019t need any liars. (Pause) And I think I\u2019m \u2018bout runnin\u2019 out of patience<\/em> with that liar. If you get me kindled up enough here\u2013 (Pause)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I say, if you got me kindled up enough, because I cannot reach people where they don\u2019t want to be reached, but I can reach him.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He\u2019s making me angry. But what makes me more angry is, that if I re\u2013 if I would take him right now, there\u2019d be another fool in his place, (Pause) \u2018cause fools<\/em> succeed. I\u2019d have to another one. And I\u2019d take another one, because our people \u2013 it\u2019s a problem \u2013 our people are deceived by their own ignorance. The prophets lie, but the people would have it so (Jeremiah 27).<\/span> Say, yes, you could take Reverend Ike? Right<\/em> this minute, I could take him.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You\u2019ve seen me stop people in this room, a young white man that was in the uh, all\u2013 in the hall, in the corridor, making light. He went down, just like that. And he got up and begged me for forgiveness, and ran up to the audience and asked us for forgiveness. If I\u2019ve taken them out of here, I could sure reach over to New York and take the spirit out of him.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> But we\u2019ve got to lift the minds of the people, or it wouldn\u2019t do any good, they\u2019d have another liar right in his place next week. So I\u2019d rather give my energy to you than to give it to fools. That\u2019s right, I\u2019d rather give my energy to heal than to give it to fools.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> But already enough power\u2019s gone that you\u2019ll hear some negative conditions. I\u2019ve thought on him too long. (Pause) You\u2019ll hear, you\u2019ll hear, if you\u2019re close to\u2013 If you\u2019re close to the palace church out there, you\u2019ll hear, \u2018cause I already thought on him too long. <\/p>\n

Man in Congregation:<\/b> You better believe it.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I did not think on him unto death, but I thought on him long enough, that there\u2019ll be some problems for him in a matter of hours. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I did not intend to do so. I\u2019m sorry that I had<\/em> to do so. But I had to preach<\/em> to you about him, because some of you are deceived<\/em> by him. One yesterday was deceived by him, talking about him (stumbles over words) in such ignorant fashion. If you\u2019ve got any kind of blessing at all, it\u2019s your duty to share it. Ike didn\u2019t give it to you, Ike wasn\u2019t the one that gave it to you, but I know somebody that can take it away from you. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> All right, the last moment of gifts. One thousand (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You\u2013 These 13 buses out here, these Gr\u2013 uh, these Greyhound buses, you look at one of those, one of those is the price of three<\/em> Cadillacs. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> That\u2019s right. (Applause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Don\u2019t you know if I\u2019da wanted to be a robber and a thief, I coulda had a Cadillac, but I don\u2019t own any car. Never bought a new car in my life. (Pause) Now why? Why don\u2019t<\/em> I? Because I want to see my people free. I cannot be happy driving a Cadillac when some of my people are walkin<\/em>\u2019.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s the difference. And I\u2019ll you one thing, Sister Morris, Brother Morris, they bought one before they knew me. Lot of you folk bought Cadillacs before you knew me. And I\u2019ll tell you, I wouldn\u2019t\u2013 That\u2013 That\u2013 That Cadillac? I had to meditate fifty<\/em> times to get that thing to run last night.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I never got so aggravated at Cadillacs and all\u2013 the whole Cadillac products. If\u2013 if Father would\u2019ve cursed, I was out in the middle of Hollywood on an emergency mission, that thing (sounds of failing car)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019d go\u2013 I\u2019d go three blocks, and it\u2019d stop (sounds of failing car)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Fifty times, I meditated that old\u2013 that old thing home, and it was boiling like old geyser, it was boiling and the smoke just rollin\u2019, uh, the smoke was rollin\u2019 round till I couldn\u2019t see through the smoke<\/em>. And that\u2019s a good<\/em> Cadillac she\u2019s got out there. If that\u2019s a Cadillac, they can take them, though. (laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I mean, I wouldna got it home, it wouldn\u2019t start. (new sound of failing car) Then out it go. No\u2013 no power. Man come along and says, I\u2019d throw this thing in the ditch. Said, you\u2019ll never gonna get it started. I said, I\u2019ll get it started \u2018cause I got some place to go. And I went out and laid my hand on it, and it went (vroom, vroom, vroom).<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> If you don\u2019t believe it, ask the folk that were with me. It was a mess, though. I\u2013 I\u2013 it stopped 50 times. She knows how bad it is. It didn\u2019t have any water pump when I got home, and I drove that thing (short laugh)\u2013<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I drove that thing the hundred miles without any water pump. (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Man in Congregation:<\/b> It\u2019s a miracle. Yes, it\u2019s a miracle.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> How many of you are mechanics? You don\u2019t drive no car without no water pump, honey.<\/p>\n

Man in Congregation:<\/b> That\u2019s right. <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I drove that car\u2013 I drove that car clear across this whole Los Angeles basin<\/em> without a water pump. It get so hot, it just be steamin\u2019. He gone tear this motor up, I said no, because it belongs to good people. It can\u2019t be tore up. (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> One of the persons was with me, he know a little\u2013 he knew a little about cars, he said\u2013 he said, if I didn\u2019t know you were God, he said, I sure wouldn\u2019t be in this car.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He couldn\u2019t get it to going, (stumbles over words) it was just dead, and it was just so hot, it just felt like gonna blow up. Just so hot. And I said, just let me behind that wheel. We were stalled right out in the middle of the road, and it was good. He said, why\u2019d that have to happen to you? I wanted everybody in the car to see how mean people are. They won\u2019t help you, they won\u2019t do nothing. They run over you. That\u2019s why we\u2019re gonna have to help each other, come right down, black people, white people, green people, doesn\u2019t matter, I don\u2019t care what color they was, they just pass you up like you didn\u2019t exist. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Right out there in the middle of the road, it was stalled, couldn\u2019t move that thing, great big ol\u2019 piece of junk, couldn\u2019t move<\/em> it. They\u2019re heavy\u2013 they\u2019re heavy as a tomb. They weigh like a mausoleum. Three people pushin\u2019, couldn\u2019t push the thing, couldn\u2019t shove it, it was\u2013 it was stubborn, it wouldn\u2019t move forward or backward, not even in neutral. Gears were all fouled up, everything<\/em> was wrong with that car. I mean, everything was wrong with that car, and it\u2019s a fancy lookin\u2019 Cadillac out there. Looks so good. Just like that Reverend Ike, looks good on the outside, messy inside. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Say, why you talkin\u2019 so much like this? I\u2013 Oh, I\u2019ve got somebody else here today, I gotta different kind of variety for every day, honey, just keep\u2013 keep\u2013 keep on in here. Just hold on. (Pause) Well, that car stopped 50 times, and after I saw how mean people was, wouldn\u2019t push, wouldn\u2019t even\u2013 black brothers come by, they black, white, I don\u2019t care, we\u2019re gonna have to help ourself, we\u2019re finished. All we needed was two more black brothers, said, I\u2019m not pushin\u2019 that damn car. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I said, thank you, brother. I said, we won\u2019t need it. And he said, well, you gone need something. Said, take a wrecker to get that car out of there. Great big ol\u2019 heavy fellow, he wasn\u2019t gonna push it. And needless to say, the white just look at you in disgust, \u2018cause we were an interracial car, and they just look at us. They\u2019d come and they\u2019d look, and they\u2019d see there\u2019s black and white in there, and they just (Pause) go by. I was glad for it, \u2018cause after they all got finished and steamin\u2019 and stormin\u2019, say, we\u2019re here and we\u2019re not gonna move, said, I\u2013 I can\u2019t make it move, and I just went out and laid my hands on it like this (slaps pulpit). Now I want you to go<\/em>. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter, calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You ask the brothers that had to fix it last night, they said, how\u2019d you get that thing home, you got no water<\/em> in the thing. Didn\u2019t have a drop of water in the thing. I brought her 55 mile, honey, hey-hey!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Couldn\u2019t get no water\u2013 you couldn\u2019t get no water, filling station\u2019s closed, you couldn\u2019t get nothing. Tried to get water, you can\u2019t get<\/em> no water. Nobody gone give you no water. They won\u2019t give you a drop of water<\/em>. You go into a ni\u2013 into a restaurant, say, give me some water. Give you a cup. (unintelligible word) (Laughs) I\u2019m tellin\u2019 you, y\u2013 you oughta been with me last night. Couldn\u2019t get no water<\/em> in this cotton-pickin\u2019 town. I\u2019d hate to see what it\u2019d be like when the famine comes, when the depression comes. We needed water<\/em> for that car and couldn\u2019t get water\u2013 I\u2013 I\u2013 uh\u2013<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. (Pause) Asked for water for radiator, and some fool give us a glass. (Pause) I was tempted, I thought, well, I know one thing, I can produce<\/em> water, but I didn\u2019t think that kinda water would make it run very well.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And I had a lot of doubtin\u2019 Thomases (John 20:24-29).<\/span> Even folk that\u2019d been with me a long while, they get to doubtin\u2019, you know. Said, that thing\u2019s not gonna go, Father, that\u2019s not gonna go. And I just, I mean, I tell you all my life, I went out and I says (slaps pulpit) I\u2019m tired of it, now you go. And that thing went (makes sounds of chugging)\u2013<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You know what happens when a water pump\u2013 I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m talking much about this miracle, \u2018cause it was great miracle. You know when a water pump, when it gets overheated, car won\u2019t start<\/em>. It won\u2019t move<\/em>, it won\u2019t do anything, it won\u2019t start. And that thing was so hot and I couldn\u2019t get it cooled down, you move three blocks, it go (chugga, chugga).<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It stop dead. Fifty times, fifty times, but I said, now this time, I want you to get us home, and I said, I\u2019m talking to you, I\u2019m the one that\u2013 <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> About slipped my secret remedy there. (Laughs) Anyway, I said, I want you to go home, and I don\u2019t want no more<\/em> trouble outta you, I want no more trouble out of these damnable Cadillacs till I get home. And that thing chugga-chuggaed right into the parking lot and went chugga-wugga.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) So help me, the folk were here last night, they saw it. It didn\u2019t even stop purring<\/em> till I got right in here, but then when it got here, it went chugga-wugga.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hallelujah!<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Hallelujah!<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Calls out) I got my stops and I got my cause and I got myself home. There\u2019s always a way. So you can have your Cadillacs, honey. Where were we? How many\u2019ll give one hundred? I\u2019m gonna give\u2013 (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> If you\u2019ve it, you better wear the thing out. I got Sister Lee Ethel Young, hers is w\u2013 I mean, she\u2013 it\u2019s been runnin\u2019 on my power for one year. (Laughs) She got a Cadillac, you never\u2013 you never seen nothing like it, it sounds like a thrasher and a lawnmower put together.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> She gets in\u2013 (Laughs) She gets in the thing, say, come on, Jim\u2013 (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> It sound\u2013 It sounds\u2013 I mean it sounds like worse than anything you ever heard, but she said, I\u2019m gonna wear this thing out, then I\u2019m gone leave<\/em> it. (Laughs) And for one year, she\u2019s been takin\u2019 people home all over through San Francisco and the Bay, she\u2019ll say, yeah, I\u2019ll take \u2018em home. And that thing\u2013 It\u2019s a miracle. If you didn\u2019t believe it\u2013<\/p>\n

End of tape<\/p>\n

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