{"id":60663,"date":"2014-07-03T23:13:59","date_gmt":"2014-07-03T23:13:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60663"},"modified":"2024-02-22T08:48:48","modified_gmt":"2024-02-22T16:48:48","slug":"annotated-transcript-958","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60663","title":{"rendered":"Annotated Transcript Q958"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Jones:<\/b> The president of the United States has as much power now as Adolf Hitler had. (Pause) S\u2019 what he said this morning. It\u2019s on the radio. He said, we\u2019ve<\/em> got to cut back on his emergency powers, or we\u2019re finished. How many heard him? He\u2019s on the radio, today. Senator [Frank] Church of Idaho. He said there is more<\/em> power in the hand\u2013 He said more<\/em> power in the hands of the president of the United States than was in the hands of Adolf Hitler, when he di\u2013 established the dictatorship and set up the concentration camps<\/a>. Now li\u2013 Now listen, love. You slept for an hour\u2013 la\u2013 the last fifty minutes. Now will you wake up? Thank you. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Clears throat) (Pause) Now when a senator<\/em> starts telling you that, you better get nervous. There\u2019s one thing I\u2019d like to have. You say it\u2019s too big to ask for. It\u2019s awful big. I\u2019d like a great, big jet airplane, a great, big jet airplane. And I know where I can get<\/em> one that\u2019ll seat\u2013 oh, it\u2019ll seat\u2013 these things now seat hundreds<\/em>. I know where I can get one for a half million dollars. (Pause) Say, that\u2019s too big to think about. Oh, that\u2019s not too big to think about, if you know what you\u2019re talking<\/em> about.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Agrees, then applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Say, why do you want that? I\u2019ll tell you. I\u2019ll tell you. \u2018Splain it to you very easily. In the meantime, we can charter it. They\u2019ll even\u2013 the company would even train our men to fly it. They\u2019ll train them, so they would be able to be trained, and others could step into other jobs. Secondly<\/em>, we can use it to go on our campaigns. But thirdly<\/em>, if a sudden dictatorship came, we could zoom<\/em> out of here fast.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now we have so many things to maintain. You say, you always doing so much. Say, why are you protecting things up in Redwood Valley? Well, Redwood Valley is for the great apocalypse. If we have a nuclear holocaust with an earth tremor that will split off all through the San Andreas Fault, and drop everything west<\/em> of the San Andreas Fault<\/em> into the sea, then we\u2019re prepared, because I\u2019ve got a cavern deep, deep in the mountains that can take care of every one of you. No fallout can get to you, no radiation can get to you. You\u2019re warm, it\u2019s constant temperature, 55 to 62 degrees all year long, down there where I\u2019ve got that. And we\u2019ve got food<\/em> for that. Say, well, how many emergencies can there be? There can be that emergency, it\u2019s definitely gonna take place on one sixteen at 3:09, our people, those that were in the meeting when it came by revelation, know exactly the day, the month, the minute, the year. I will tell everyone about it two<\/em> weeks before. But in the meantime, there could be a dictatorship<\/em> that would sweep in. So we have to be prepared to take our flight to the valley in the case of great desolation or the apocalypse or the Armageddon that would spring forth in a nuclear hell, as Peter said, when the elements melt with a fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10, \u201cBut the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.\u201d).<\/span> We have to be prepared for that, but we also<\/em> have to be prepared to go to other<\/em> places in the world if a dictatorship takes over, because I told<\/em> you \u2013 and I never have broke my word \u2013 I told<\/em> you, uh, not one of my children\u2019s gonna end up in a concentration camp. I said they\u2019ll have to kill<\/em> us all<\/em> first.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises) Now I mean that. I mean, that\u2019s one place we draw the line. We\u2019ve been slaves once in this country, we\u2019ve been in chains once<\/em> in this country, they\u2019ve sold us on the slave market once<\/em>, but baby, they\u2019re not gonna do it again.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So they better let us get<\/em> our planes, \u2018cause we\u2019ll be peaceful<\/em>. (Pause) We don\u2019t like desolation, we don\u2019t like Babylon, we don\u2019t like dictatorships. So if they want to ma\u2013 build a dictatorship, they can build it. That\u2019s their business. But I\u2019d like to have a way that I can get my children out quick. Say, where you going? Now that\u2019s<\/em> for Father to know and for you<\/em> to find out.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Because Father already knows. Father knows his business. You never seen him go wrong yet. A year ago, this is not a\u2013 this church is not a year ago, this church is not a year old. Yeah, just about now, a year old, isn\u2019t it? Just about a year old, right now. A year ago, we didn\u2019t own a brick. Today, this Temple is paid for, every fixture, every nail, every window, all the improvements, a new kitchen, it\u2019s paid for, lock<\/em>, stock and barrel. One<\/em> year.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Two hundred thousand dollars we\u2019ve got wrapped up in this thing. Improvements and all that we put in it, organs, equipment, and we paid<\/em> for it. Say, how do you do that? Well, I\u2013 it\u2019s a very simple thing: quit giving your preachers anniversaries, and quit giving them Cadillacs, and you can pay for your church.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I saw Reverend Ike on this morning, and it made me disgusted. Someone said come in and see this fool. I walked in, and I saw the fool. He had a little boy\u2013 little boy that was 13 years of age, he\u2019d been on dope, and he was sayin\u2019 that he contacted his subconscious mind or some other idiocy and said this little boy now was\u2013 the little boy was uh, in his church there to be on the TV camera, he takes these people and uses them, like that silly old Reverend Bean<\/em> that was in here. He got no more oil than I got. I saw his face on the\u2013 on the magazine a while ago, with that 32 oil wells. He hadn\u2019t got 32 wells of urine. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter, then scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Afore someone gonna get those folk for all the lies they tell. I don\u2019t know what they do<\/em> to these guys, they pay them off (unintelligible word), but I know that guy not got no oil wells. He was right here in this church, he didn\u2019t like the straight truth. Oh, I\u2019ll tell it on you anytime, I\u2019ll tell it on you. He came around here, and I saw him just last week on the face of the action magazine, he\u2019d had 32 oil wells. That\u2019s a big lie. He got no 32 oil wells. (Pause) Nobody just bothers to check up this stuff. They just write any kinda lie they want to. You might have 32 old things you call<\/em> oil wells, but if he\u2019s got \u2018em, they\u2019re all dry. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) S\u2019 awful<\/em>, these things, and he said, the little boy\u2013 and the grandmother said so pitifully, she said I\u2019ve moved over here to New York, that he could be closer to you, because he\u2019s trembling again. (Pause) The little boy was trembling again, he\u2019s getting the nervousness that goes along with this\u2013 a drug addiction, and Reverend Ike says, let\u2019s all stand and send him some kinda love prayer. (Pause) Crap with their love prayers. That little boy didn\u2019t need a love prayer, he needed somebody to give him work and give him\u2013 like our children\u2019s homes, something to\u2013 that Reverend Ike, I don\u2019t know how people could be so ignorant. They haven\u2019t got one children\u2019s home, they\u2019ve haven\u2019t got one nursing home, they\u2019ve haven\u2019t got one senior citizen home, they\u2019ve haven\u2019t got an acre, they\u2019ve haven\u2019t got a ground to\u2013 uh, to prepare any food, we\u2019ve got acres and acres of food that\u2019s planted, you just can get some of the pears out there, uh, uh, at the end of the service, you can get them at a very reasonable figure, and if you come up to the Valley, uh, right now, you can get<\/em> them, if you want to drive up, we can get<\/em> some pears, free<\/em>. We have to transport them down here, and naturally we\u2019re gonna have to have some help for the church, but if you want to come up there, you can get<\/em> pears at this time of the year, you can pick as many as you want to off of the trees around our property, free<\/em>. Now that Reverend Ike doesn\u2019t give those folk nothing<\/em>. He says I send you out a love thought. Let\u2019s stand up and give a little 13-year-old drug addict a love thought. How do we be so damned ignorant?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now I seldom say a word like that, but Paul, he said a word worse than that when he said, I count it all dung. He called all that mess of lies and false prophets, he called that dung<\/em>. You know what dung<\/em> is. If you\u2019re uh, half a century old as I am, you know what dung<\/em> means. That\u2019s the dirtiest word you can think for that that you flush down you call number two<\/em>. That\u2019s what Paul said in the Bible, he said, I count it all dung<\/em>. And that\u2019s what I count Reverend Ike. Dung<\/em>. He\u2019s dungheap (Philippians 3:8, \u201cYea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ\u201d). <\/span><\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Indignant) But I\u2019ll tell you one thing, you can\u2019t have a Reverend Ike without a\u2013 dout a whole lotta dumb house niggers. You gotta have a whole lotta dumb Aunt Janes and Uncle Toms, or Reverend Ike couldn\u2019t get anywhere. I\u2019m amazed<\/em> that people could be so dumb<\/em>. He stands up there with those fancy clothes and says he spends\u2013 oh, it breaks my heart for people, they\u2019re so stupid<\/em>, they\u2019re so damned ignorant<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (off mike) You go ahead\u2013 You go ahead\u2013 (mike turns back on) You go ahead and turn your offering in, because it\u2019s important that we be\u2013 (feedback) It\u2019s wonderful. These damn things are made like\u2013 by crooks like Reverend Ike, that\u2019s why they don\u2019t want to work for me. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Calls out) The whole elements\u2013 the elements are against the people\u2019s liberation. Everything\u2019s under control of this love of money, which is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10, \u201cFor the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.\u201d).<\/span> Nobody wants my voice, of course not. (Quietens) \u2018Cause I\u2019ll give people freedom. People\u2013 people have the nerve to\u2013 people have the nerve to question like this, somebody\u2013 these\u2013 these pants, somebody had the nerve, said, to (unintelligible word), said these are too short. Now someone here gave me these pants, so I don\u2018t have to buy them, so I can save people money. Sure<\/em>, they\u2019re too short. But what the hell is it to you<\/em>?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. (Pause) My shoes are also too short, but someone couldn\u2019t wear them, because of bunions. So fine. I was able to save you money. I\u2019ve been able to save you your money and give you land, been able to give you fine 13 lovely buses that can get us across this country if we don\u2019t get the jet. I\u2019d just like to have\u2013 I\u2019m a kind of father that would like to have every ace\u2013 I want every ace I can get. We\u2019ve got a way that the head of one of the parliament divisions in Canada says, your country\u2019s gonna turn into concentration camps, and they\u2019re gonna kill<\/em> blacks and minorities, and uh, he gave his number and read to me his private phone, when we were up there on our vacation, because we all take our vacations together. Last year we went to Canada. We all take them together. I don\u2019t go anywhere, I don\u2019t take my people. And he said, you people are so wonderful, the way you cleaned up things and the way you little ones look after the older ones, and he said there\u2019s such a togetherness. And he said, when you get ready, you just come on up, and we\u2019ll let you through the ri\u2013 let you right through the frontier, right through the border. But<\/em> it takes us 13, 14 hours<\/em> to get there. (Pause) Oh, we\u2019ll make it. Ha-ha-ha, I\u2019ve got all kinds of plans. Shh. I\u2019ve got all kinds of plans. If we don\u2019t get a jet plane, we\u2019ll<\/em> make it, \u2018cause we\u2019ll go naked<\/em>, if we have to, in a protest march, and they\u2019ll let us get through there.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. (Pause) That Reverend Ike is so phony, it breaks my heart. He says, I\u2019ll give you a love prayer. I carry your letter near me, he said. Never offered that child a home, never offered that precious grandmother that brought him all the way to New York, didn\u2019t say a thing about, well, I\u2019ll see that you\u2019ve got a place to stay. All he says, I\u2019ll s\u2013 he says, all stand up here in the great church, and let\u2019s send him a love thought-a. Like a\u2013 oh, I\u2019d like to have a hold of Reverend Ike. I\u2019d spank him like a little two-year-old, \u2018cause he\u2019s a spoiled brat.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Great big spoiled brat. I know some of you are fans of him, but you oughta be ashamed of yourself. He doesn\u2019t do anything by take, and\u2013 in the Readers Digest<\/em> and the Newsweek<\/em> and in the San Francisco Chronicle<\/em> and on the radio, I heard him with my own ears, he said, look at my clothes, fancy clothes. He said, I\u2013 you oughta be proud of me. He said, I spend a thousand dollars\u2013 over a thousand dollars every<\/em> week. Every week. It broke my heart. He spent over a thousand dollars every<\/em> week for money to buy clothes. That\u2019s what he said. I didn\u2019t say it. He said it himself. Nobody said it about him. I heard him, and some of you heard him, with his own mouth<\/em> say it. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises) Our people in suffering\u2013 and it\u2019s a pity<\/em>, it\u2019s a pity people won\u2019t pay for the truth. We could hardly get a thousand dollars. Wednesday night, we couldn\u2019t get a thousand dollars hardly in this church. We won\u2019t pay a thousand<\/em> dollars for the truth. We won\u2019t\u2013 we\u2019d do good to get a thousand dollars. You say, well, that proves you\u2019re not of God. No, the more money you get, that move\u2013 proves the more of a devil<\/em> you are, that\u2019s what it proves. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises) And I\u2019ve got the supernatural power, but that isn\u2019t the thing that we\u2019re gonna have to be saved<\/em> by. If I save you that way, it\u2019ll exhaust<\/em> me, and then you\u2019ll lose a leader. \u2018Cause I\u2019ve got more<\/em> power than anyone, but my power\u2019s dependent upon your faith and<\/em> your willingness to serve others. (Pause) Now, in this consciousness, we\u2019re expected to work out our own<\/em> plan of salvation (Philippians 2:12, \u201cWherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.\u201d), we\u2019re expected to give<\/em> of ourselves freely<\/em>. As we have freely received, we should freely give (Matthew 10:8, \u201c\u2026freely ye have received, freely give.\u201d).<\/span> But it\u2019s amazing to me, it\u2019s amazing to me (Pause) that Ike can get all that kinda money, and wear with those fancy clothes. Oh, he\u2019s gonna get his day. I\u2019m not worried about the time of God\u2019s<\/em> time, I\u2019m not talking about Principle\u2019s<\/em> time, he\u2019s\u2013 he\u2019s just the same as dead. (Pause) But it\u2019s amazing that people will be so stupid, stupid, when right now, the average black woman makes only four thousand dollars a year, all over America, whereas the average black man makes five thousand. But the average black\u2013 white man makes ten<\/em> thousand. That\u2019s the way it is in America today. Ten<\/em> thousand. The average white man makes ten<\/em> thousand a year, and the average black woman makes four<\/em> thousand. Even the average white<\/em> woman only makes six thousand. All women are second class citizens, white and black. There\u2019s not\u2013 There\u2019s a\u2013 there\u2019s a\u2013 hardly a narrow gap between the black woman and the white woman, so the black woman and the white woman oughta recognize that you\u2019re sisters with a common problem, because your wage scale is almost the same. (Voice rises throughout) Wo\u2013 Nobody has any use for women, because of that junk that Ike\u2019s preachin\u2019 out of that King James Bible. That\u2019s why people have held down women. That\u2019s why they held down blacks<\/em>. Said, slaves, obey your master (Colossians 3:22, \u201cServants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God.\u201d See also Ephesians 6:5, Titus 2:9). Be subject, it says, wife, to your husband<\/em>. That means be a slave<\/em> (Colossians 3:18, \u201cWives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.\u201d).<\/span> Nosirree, sir, I don\u2019t care who said it, I don\u2019t care what book<\/em> wrote it, I won\u2019t be subject to no damn fool<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and sustained applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now last night, we had wonderful healings. Two cripples, yesterday, miracles and miracles and miracles, and the night before, braces taken off. Wonderful things. But we sit and listen to truth. I do not intend to extend the truth as much today, but I have been impressed that we need to get the truth in us, because a double-minded man is unstable (James 1:6-8, esp. James 1:8, \u201cA double minded man is unstable in all his ways.\u201d).<\/span> Now some of you, you will s\u2013 you will suck out there that slop, you slip outta here and go to a slop pen, and you expect to get something from me. You can\u2019t get it that way. This woman down here who is 98 had to had faith<\/em> to come all the way from the East. This woman here that uh, is sitting on the end that was operated five times, she had to come here a long time, months and months. She never was called out, but she wasn\u2019t sucking around on some old other false adder [udder]. She wasn\u2019t sucking around on something else that was false. She came in here and l\u2013 began to learn the teaching, and even though she\u2019d been through the fifth<\/em> operation, she was not<\/em> going to be impatient. She stayed. She stayed put<\/em>. But some of you suck at one tit, and then you go over and suck on another tit, and you\u2019re all around here getting all the old evangelists\u2019 tits, suckin\u2019 on \u2018em, suckin\u2019 to every old thing comes along. You\u2019re double-minded and you\u2019re unstable in all your ways<\/em> (James 1:6-8).<\/span> <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You can\u2019t suck on one udder and then come in here, in this holy place, this place that\u2019s a liberation, a people\u2019s<\/em> movement, you can\u2019t come in here and drink at this fountain and go back and drink it slop. What in the world you talkin\u2019 about? Says, Ike helps people. Ike doesn\u2019t help anybody. (stumbles over words) As many people as\u2013 as a mass ministry that he does, all that money, he\u2019s got gangland<\/em> money behind him, all that junk<\/em>\u2013 Say, oh yeah, you\u2019re sayin\u2019 some strong stuff, my attorneys look funny, I don\u2019t care, let him sue me, I\u2019d like to get in a suit with him.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You look at those white thugs<\/em> that are with him. Look at \u2018em. You ever been to one of his meetings? Say, have you<\/em>? Not in the person, but I\u2019m in the Spirit everywhere, I\u2019m looking at everybody<\/em> when I want to look at \u2018em. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Say, I don\u2019t like for you to talk about Reverend Ike. Well then, you just don\u2019t like me, because I\u2019ll talk about any d\u2013 old rotten dirty liar any time I choose.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I never will\u2013 I never will forget what he said to a group of black people. They held up Colonel [Harland David] Sanders. That old Colonel Sanders, he never would even hire a black, till I took a fight on with him. His commercials didn\u2019t have a black in them, till I personally<\/em> took the c\u2013 crusade on, and wrote letters and wrote letters and bombarded him till he hired the first black people in his programs. I\u2013 I don\u2019t mean I did it by the Spirit. We<\/em> did it with letters, we did it with political pressure, with social pressure, and Reverend Ike \u2013 before<\/em> I even got that done \u2013 held that man up and says, all black people should be like Colonel Sanders. Said, he made it. Now any black that would listen to that kinda idiocy, says Colonel Sanders is an example of what all of us could be. Well, the only difference is, Colonel Sanders is white, and that\u2019s a special privilege ticket in this country.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I know you didn\u2019t come here to hear this. You came here to heal. And I have caused them to spit out cancers in every service. I caused them to pass them th\u2013 all this week in every service, cancers, cripple, two were healed yesterday, on Saturday, a woman on Friday\u2013 on Saturday night\u2013 Friday night, she was crippled from two accidents so badly that her bones were just rickety<\/em>, and they were all meshed together, but she danced just like a little baby. But I\u2019ll tell you one thing, if you want to get these goodies, you\u2019re gonna set and get some of that crap<\/em> outta your head.<\/span><\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s still a nicer word than Paul. Paul said dung<\/em>. I still haven\u2019t\u2013 Crap\u2019s a nice word compared to dung. The Hebrew, it\u2019s the dirtiest cuss word you can ever use, but Paul said, I look on that mess of false prophets, and he said, all these people like Ike, (Cries out) I count as dung<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And you\u2013 you still don\u2019t know what dung is, some of you, look around, wonder what dung is. It\u2019s shit<\/em>, baby, that\u2019s what it is.<\/span><\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. And it\u2019s in your Bible. Paul said, all these liars that steal and rob the people, I count it all dung<\/em> (Philippians 3:8).<\/span><\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019m amazed, I\u2019m amazed at the ignorance. That\u2019s why I want to get you out. We got a ig\u2013 we got ignorant folk\u2013 uh, the first thing Reverend Ike would say, I know<\/em> what he\u2019ll say if they bring a dictator in. He\u2019ll say, it\u2019s good for the people. And his fool Aunt Janes and Uncle Toms will set there and say, yassuh, nosuh.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I looked over their faces today, and I look at your faces, and if you\u2019ve ever looked at that TV, \u2018cause that\u2019s as close as I want to get to him, I wouldn\u2019t get near him, I wouldn\u2019t have nothing to do with him, \u2018cause I\u2019ve got too much justice, too much goodness, too much health, I wouldn\u2019t be near him, and some of you have seen too many die that\u2019ve come in and out of here, and that\u2019s what\u2019s gonna happen to that Reverend Bean, you watch him. You watch Reverend Bean, you watch him closely, you\u2013 (tape edit) don\u2019t come and drink at this<\/em> fountain and then go back to that slop heap. You better listen, Sarah. Come on, now. Look up here. You better listen now, all of you better look forward. (Ministerial cry) You don\u2019t go from here back<\/em> to the crap<\/em> of that dunghill, you don\u2019t go after tasting<\/em> of this heavenly gift, you cannot find it possible to go back to such dead works (Hebrews 9:14, \u201cHow much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?\u201d; see also, Hebrews 6:1).<\/span> If you do\u2013 now you watch Reverend Bean, he\u2019s as dead as if he were already laying in a casket. He\u2019s dead.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> [Excited tone] You say, I\u2019m gonna go back. Well, you just watch what happens to you. You go back, and you sit in that slop, and you\u2019ll die<\/em>, and you\u2019ll find yourself in concentration camps, you\u2019ll find yourself in hell, you go back. (Voice drops, still intense) If you have to test me, you go back, because when you\u2019ve seen purity, goodness, mercy, and you\u2019ve seen our children\u2019s home, all the people we adopt, all the seniors we take in, give them homes without money, all the land we give to provide for our people, and all black people and all poor white people and all brown people. If you, having seen that, go back to a dirty, rotten devil that says I spend a thousand dollars a week of the people\u2019s money for clothes, he said I\u2019m the body beautiful. Stupid ass. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He\u2019s a body beautiful. If he is, then\u2013 (pause) If he\u2019s the body beautiful, then crap don\u2019t stink.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I saw him go down the aisle \u2013 and you\u2019ve seen him in the natural, I\u2019ve seen him in the spirit \u2013 go down and say, don\u2019t touch me. If you want to hug me, just put your arms around yourself and go like that.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Somebody the other day got all shook. A sister came up, she was just carried away, and she came up and just shook the liver out of me. She was carried away and\u2013 and people wanted to stop her. I\u2019m not gonna break. I\u2019m not gonna break. It\u2013 Natural not everyone could do that in every service, but when one person just breaks out of their hold and so grateful and they do it, just let \u2018em alone, but Rev\u2013 these\u2013 these reverends, they don\u2019t want to be touched. They\u2019re afraid their hair\u2019s gonna get mussed, or they\u2019re gonna\u2013 my\u2013 he\u2013 he\u2013 he\u2019s afraid the boys wouldn\u2019t like him so well. (unintelligible exclamation)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Cries out) Go tell him. I know you all do anyway. You\u2019ve already told him. Why don\u2019t he sue me? Go tell him. He knows he don\u2019t wanna get in no fight with Jim Jones, I\u2019ll tear hell outta him.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (unintelligible word) Sister, you like Reverend Ike, you outta get on outta here, \u2018cause you\u2019re in a bad place. You\u2019re in bad place.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I seldom talk about Reverend Ike, but you shouldna got in here. I\u2019ll talk about any old damn robber, I\u2019ll talk about any Uncle Tom that\u2019s trying to sell our people, and tellin\u2019 us to be like Colonel Sanders, and saying not to involve yourself, he said, don\u2019t involve yourself with social issues, don\u2019t involve yourself with crusades, don\u2019t involve yourself with any of the movements for peace or brotherhood, he said, just think positive and send my love thoughts-a.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The pity is that we\u2019re so brainless, that we follow the damn fool. It\u2019s pitiful. You say, why are you saying that? I\u2019m saying it, it proves my case that much more. You\u2019d<\/em> better be ready to get to Redwood Valley on a moment\u2019s notice, we\u2019d better be a\u2013re\u2013 ready in a twinkling<\/em> of an eye. And I don\u2019t mean to fly away, baby, on wings, \u2018cause they been givin\u2019 us that wing crap for years. I don\u2019t believe in none of that wing crap they tell us about. First place, not gonna fly away anyway. Says as it was in the days of Noah, so it\u2019ll be in the days of the Son of Man. One shall be l\u2013 left and one shall be taken (Matthew 24: 37-40, \u201cBut as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.\u201d).<\/span> Now who was le\u2013 who\u2013 who was taken in the days of Noah? The bad<\/em> folk. The bad folk, that\u2019s the ones that we\u2013 were taken. Say, you\u2019re always talking about that was the way the rapture\u2019s gonna be, you\u2019re gonna go up. You\u2019re gonna go up. (Short laugh) The only people gonna remain\u2019s gonna be the good<\/em> folk, \u2018cause they\u2019re gonna have enough sense not to trust in angel wings and false Bible promises and s\u2013 pearly white cities and the gates of gold (Revelation 21:21, \u201cAnd the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.\u201d). They\u2019re gonna learn to look after themselves and work out their own salvation (Philippians 2:12)<\/span> and get \u2018em a cave or get \u2018em a jet to go someplace in a beautiful jungle, they\u2019ll know just exactly what to do, they won\u2019t trust none of those old white angel wings, and they\u2019re gonna be the ones that\u2019ll be remaining and the others\u2019ll be taken.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> How about you, Father? One sister said yesterday to me\u2013 No, it wasn\u2019t yester\u2013 day before<\/em> yesterday, she said, you, Father, oughta believe in angels. I wasn\u2019t even talkin\u2019 about angels, don\u2019t know what the hell\u2019s the matter with that stupid woman, I was talkin\u2019 about in the\u2013 the television channels, the educational channel, KQED, that\u2019s supposed to be the most liberal, progressive channel in America, it shows angels on the TV, it says, be an angel, be a donor. And all the angels are blond-headed and white with nice white wings. Every one of \u2018em. And I said, there\u2019s no hope for a country that is as stupid as that, with all the black people in San Francisco and the bay and in Los Angeles for these educational channels \u2013 and you\u2019ll see them on your educational channel \u2013 they\u2019ll say, be a donor, be an angel, give to the educational channel, and they show nothing but white Goldilock angels. They don\u2019t give a damn \u2018bout black folk. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And that\u2019s all I was talkin\u2019 about, I wasn\u2019t talkin\u2019 about whether I believe in angels or not. I happen to be a messenger, if you wanted to look at it in those terms, I happen to be<\/em> from another planet, I\u2013 uh, or another plane, or you call it heaven. Whatever you want to call it, I know where I\u2019m from. It makes so difference. But I\u2019m walking here in human clay, in human form, and I\u2019m gonna stay<\/em> here in human form until I get you up to where I am. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (clears throat) Peace. Is that a Baptist meeting in the balcony? You look like you\u2019re a\u2013 following a different beat up there. Are you following a different drummer? I only got two people up there. Deborah (unintelligible word). I\u2019ve only got two people up there said Amen. Are you listening to some other person, are you not listening to me, or what\u2019s going on? Is there no PA system up there? <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Response (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The\u2013 Uh, we got two churches up there. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs, then scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No, some are givin\u2019 a little faint claps before, but n\u2013 now a few more gettin\u2019 alive, and there was a couple up there, I\u2019ve seen you just movin\u2019, movin\u2019 your hands and\u2013 but sometimes I look up there in the balcony and you act like you would<\/em> like to be in Reverend Ike\u2019s church. (clears throat) <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now I don\u2019t mean to be foolish, though you are saved by the foolishness of preaching (1 Corinthians 1:18-23).<\/span> I\u2019m not trying to be supercilious or to be sarcastic, (Pause) but I tell you, if you didn\u2019t believe that America was headed for trouble, just watch Reverend Ike\u2019s program once, and you\u2019d know we\u2019re in trouble. All those thousands of people gather around\u2013 and look at their faces. If you don\u2019t appreciate Peoples Temple, you oughta look at my people out here, look at their faces, and look at the faces of those (mispronounces) vapid, dumb\u2013 They look (pantomime)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Pause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I uh, (clears throat) wanted to tell you, I just sent a message to Lillian Neil\u2019s daughter, \u2018cause I\u2019ve had a feeling of her heaviness, she was attempting to commit suicide, she was just right in the process when I sent the message. They called her as I had instructed her, and in the moment, she has changed, and it\u2019s lifted it, and everything is fine now.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. (Pause) I\u2019ve called out all kinds<\/em> of people today. I\u2019ve sent people running on various things and to take care of various works. Sometimes the most magnificent\u2013 and always<\/em> the most magnificent part of my work is done quietly, like that, but if you don\u2019t know Lillian Neil, you\u2019ll be hearing from her daughter, I just saved her in the process of committing suicide, and now it\u2019s lifted, even while I\u2019m preaching, I stopped a\u2013 while I was listening to preach, uh, the preaching and sending out and writing down notes about your healing. That was one of the things, the message that I sent and transmitted to one of the workers. And they called<\/em> her, and now it\u2019s lifted. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. Lillian Neil is a follower. The daughter wasn\u2019t, but I\u2019m sure she\u2019ll be touched that I would have knowledge of her need, and call her right during the time when she feels like committing suicide. So you awarer\u2013 always be aware that uh, the god at hand is worth two in the bush.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Quiet) Very well. Very well. If you did not know we were in trouble, as I said, look\u2013 just look at some of these big healers. Look. Look at the TV station. Look over Reverend Ike\u2019s audience. And if you don\u2019t see the difference between our faces\u2013 Oh, we got some here don\u2019t know which end\u2019s up, but, you look at the most of them, look at most of their faces, and you\u2019ll see, it\u2019s not that we\u2019re more beautiful\u2013 oh, on the contrary, always the true is like that was said of Jesus\u2013 the true vine, is like it was said of Jesus (John 15:1, \u201cI am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.\u201d), the foxes have dens and birds have nests (Matthew 8:19-20, \u201cAnd a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.\u201d; see also Luke 9:57-58,), the Son of Man has no form or comeliness, no beauty that anybody would desire them (Isaiah 53:1-2, \u201cWho hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.\u201d),<\/span> it isn\u2019t that we\u2019re beautiful, on the contrary, but there\u2019s a\u2013 there\u2019s a look of knowledge, there\u2019s a look of sensitivity, there\u2019s a look of feeling in the faces of our true followers. And if you looked on that TV audience\u2013 I studied them and I made it\u2013 I brought attention to the people who were there, back there, I said, look, look at their faces. There\u2019s nothing in them. They\u2019re just like automatons. All they\u2019re interested in is getting something for nothing or to get a false promise or live with an illusion, they want a prosperity, they want a blessing, they don\u2019t want to help anybody, all the people that gather around Ike, they\u2019re not people that want to give, they want to receive. That\u2019s what I love about looking in your faces. You\u2013 You\u2019ve come\u2013 The ones that stuck with me, you\u2019ve had to be special, \u2018cause I\u2019ve made it hard. This way\u2019s hard. It\u2019s rough. Like some sister yesterday, Katie West in this assembly, had to take her car many times \u2013 I didn\u2019t ask her \u2013 but the conscience in her uh, caused her to take her car several time because people got away from here, before people had a way home. And she gave her car, run it back and forth, back and forth. And people like Sister Miller and Sister Morris, who\u2019ve given their car<\/em> over to the cause. It\u2019s hard<\/em>. That\u2019s easy out there. Just set and look like a dummy, and give nothing of yourself. But that\u2019s why you (unintelligible word) better know that we are in trouble. America is in trouble. You know<\/em> how much trouble we are with the white man. Yesterday, the paper showed you, lovely black family, he\u2019s an engineer, I think, he had two children, and uh, they in Detroit, lived in a unprejudiced neighborhood, they thought. NAACP had given this community an award for being the best white neighborhood. So he moved into it. They stabbed it, the police dog, they stole the little boy\u2019s toys, the tricycle, they beat up on the little boy, they rocked the house, they set it afire, they put KKK, burned it into the grass. (Pause) And you saw it on your paper and your TV, that family said I had to move, he had to take\u2013 clear off back in the slums and put his people, his children, his wife, they couldn\u2019t even go back one more night, they had to take all the family and go and stay with his mother-in-law, because they weren\u2019t safe. So you know how much trouble we got with white people. We got a\u2013 (Pause) Is she still here? Yes, she\u2019s still here.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I tell you, when you see some of these folks slip in here\u2013 uh, you can tell a honky, whether they\u2019re black or not. If you know\u2013 If you know a white person is black, if they are\u2013 all\u2013 all you black here, yes, even though they got blond hair, they\u2019re black. If they\u2019re members of this family, they\u2019re black. Because anyone\u2019s who got conscience or really Christ understanding, or Jehovah or Buddha or [Karl] Marx or whatever you want\u2013 any good enlightened soul\u2019s understanding, they\u2019re gonna identify with the poor. You always said, I am a champion of the underdog. I identify with the persecuted. I identify with those that are suffering. Well, the whites in here are not white. They\u2019re black.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. They\u2019re black. They\u2019re Indian. They\u2019re Mexican. They\u2019re identifying with the people that\u2019ve been suffering and persecuted and prosecuted. (Pause) But sometimes you look around here and you\u2019ll see somebody walks in here, I can spot \u2018em a mile off. I just put down my glasses, or I\u2019ll look. And you oughta tell<\/em> by the way I look, when somebody comes in, or just look, and some of you oughta take my message from my look, and get over there and talk<\/em> to those folk, and then when somebody\u2019ll go out like a while ago, one of those Uncle Tom fellows tryin\u2019 to make his hair look it\u2019s white, I watched him, went out, sent a word for him, and he was a spy on spies. <\/p>\n

Voice:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, I know he was, \u2018cause I said (unintelligible word). Lying dogs. I know who\u2019s here, spying.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Delayed applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So why don\u2019t you recognize\u2013 People come in here, you ask them and say, do you believe in brotherhood? What do you mean by brotherhood? You believe in interracial equality. That\u2019s what you ask them. Say, do you believe it\u2019s all right for anybody to marry who they choose, or live where they want to, work where they want to? If they say no, say I think, you know, you got the wrong church. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We oughta be sweet and kind, if someone says, well, I don\u2019t really know, I never thought about it, well, you might be able to work with a person like that. But if someone\u2013 I\u2013 we\u2019ve let people get in here\u2013 I had a woman in here, she had to die before I could get her out of it, then I resurrected her and she never did come back. She died back here on the end of the aisle, white woman. And when I got through talkin\u2019 to her, I knew why she died. Ye gods, the woman says, I don\u2019t think\u2013 I look around here and I see this one\u2013 this white one with the black babies and this black one with white babies, and I don\u2019t understand all this, says, I think that\u2019s terrible. (Pause) Said I don\u2019t think that you should mix\u2013 Said, you don\u2019t ever see birds<\/em> mix. Honey, we aren\u2019t birds. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s so stupid\u2013 Anybody stupid say that, you ever see birds mix. There not a bit of difference between a white human and a black human, only the s\u2013 color of the skin.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s all there is, just a little bit of pigmentation you can\u2019t even measure. Them fools takin\u2019 about birds. Uh, you never saw two birds alike. Little ol\u2019 sparrow and a big robin. Naturally, they don\u2019t mix. (Pause) They couldn\u2019t get together. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> But you better\u2013 you better watch that white dog you got, I don\u2019t care, she may be all curled up in a little white poodle, and she may have everything just\u2013 you maybe had her groomed last week, but you better watch when she go down, one of them black alley dogs comes out, \u2018cause she\u2019s had it. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Every time\u2013 You say, why are you talking this? You never talk so silly. I\u2019ve got my reasons. I\u2019m trying to get rid of some folk that don\u2019t need to be here.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019ve always become all things to all men, that by any means I might save the more (1 Corinthians 9:19-23, esp. 1 Corinthians 9:20, \u201c\u2026I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.\u201d).<\/span> I know what I\u2019m doing. You just (unintelligible word) take that little ol\u2019 groomed poodle and you can put little bells on her and little ol\u2019 collar, and you can just have her all fixed up with a ribbon, but honey\u2013 and you can bring up a white poodle just like her, and she\u2019ll go away from that white poodle and hunt up a black alley dog, and boy, won\u2019t they go to it.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) I just took care of that white sister. She won\u2019t be back.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The only way she\u2019ll come back is if some of you brothers visit her on the sly.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) It\u2019s wonderful. (Pause) (clears throat) Turn around and hug your neighbor. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Off mike) I just love to watch people (unintelligible word) (laughs) (clears throat) (tape edit) Hug her. (Pause) Kiss and hug \u2018em all up, that\u2019s it. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) (Pause) (tape edit) \u2013come on, rub noses with him. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Voice off mike:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Yeah, umm-hmm [yes], umm-hmm. (Pause) Some of you folk don\u2019t know how to hug. Now, when we hug, this is the way we hug. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hug<\/em>. C\u2018mon. Hug<\/em>. (Pause) Let\u2019s hug. Let\u2019s hug. Let\u2019s hug. C\u2019mon. (Pause) I was tryin\u2019 to set an example, I can\u2019t\u2013 I can\u2019t hug all (unintelligible word)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Commotion<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I wish I could<\/em> hug all of you. I can\u2019t, because I\u2019m the type of person that has to hug everyone. So I won\u2019t do it unless I (unintelligible word away from mike)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Commotion<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Don\u2019t<\/em> be afraid to hug. Don\u2019t be afraid to hug. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. (apparently mingles through crown, hugging and blessing). C\u2019mon back there. Hug \u2018er now. Shake \u2018em up.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Commotion<\/p>\n

Tape edit<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> If I had my way, we\u2019d do nothing but hug the rest of the day, but I did not proceed further, because it\u2019s my feeling about you, you\u2019re all one to me, you\u2019re all one, you\u2019re all the same, you\u2019re all my precious, precious children, and if I start out there, I\u2019d have to hug all of you, because I don\u2019t want to hug one without hugging you all<\/em>. I was just giving you an example<\/em> of how to do, \u2018cause some of you act like you\u2019re afraid you\u2019re gonna get broke or something.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Commotion<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. That is why\u2013 (Pause) I\u2019ve got everything practically I want for you. Got an apartment now, and so we can have some housing here for people who don\u2019t feel that they\u2019re yet able to come up to Redwood Valley. (Pause) But there only one thing that I\u2019d like us to see. I\u2019d like to see a\u2013 a plane that belonged to us. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs, then applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. Tomorrow\u2013 tomorrow, we\u2019ve gotta get something else to take with us. A kidney machine. Kidney machine.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Tomorrow. Tomorrow, we\u2019re gonna get it. That\u2019s our intention tomorrow. Say, why? Well, because\u2013 (pause) Thank you, thank you, that\u2019s very sweet. That\u2019s very<\/em> sweet of you. We want to have a kidney machine, because people die unless they have kidney machines. Twenty thousand people died just recent times, just last year, because they couldn\u2019t get to a kidney machine. Kidney machine will clean the blood, pur\u2013 purify the blood for those that\u2019ve got kidney problems, kidney failure. So I\u2013 I\u2013 I would like to also have a hospital. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Delayed applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I would like to have a hospital, but right now we have to wait, because in these crisis times, as Senator Church from Idaho and several \u2013 Senator Monsdale [Walter Mondale] also \u2013 that was their appeal, early this morning, I was listening at five o\u2019clock this morning, said something has to be done quickly to cut back the president\u2019s emergency powers, or we\u2019re in trouble, because he has more dictatorial power than Hitler did when he established his Third Reich. He has more power than the Vermont [Weimar] Constitution gave Hitler\u2013 (pause) than the Vermont Republic<\/em>, rather, gave Hitler. That\u2019s<\/em> what he said. Emergency powers. Already the president [Richard Nixon] can order you, with Executive Order 11490 and 11647, he can or\u2013 change people from this whole California, put \u2018em all in the desert, if he wants to. He can take over all private property, all public transportation, every sheriff\u2019s department, every police department, all the National Guard of course is already in his domain. In one order, he can take this country over, or whoever the president might be. And Senator Church says, Congress must come to its senses (cries out) now<\/em>. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Delayed applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s what he said. He said the Congress must come to its senses now<\/em>, or we\u2019re in trouble. I don\u2019t believe that people ever come to their senses, except us. I don\u2019t believe they come to their senses. I\u2019ve been here\u2013 anybody who\u2019s seen me, see the miracles I\u2019ve done\u2013 You just looked at one man shot three times today. There is Ron, there is Brother [Paul] Flowers, been shot<\/em>, they\u2019ve been\u2013 got up, and even the bullets have gone clear through them, never even made a mark. They\u2019ve seen more miracles\u2013 I\u2019ve brought more people out of the wheelchairs, more people from\u2013 they were deaf and dumb. That woman right there, 98 years, going to\u2013 she was laying on bed, an invalid when she came to me, respiratory disease. Going to the bathroom alone, (unintelligible word) alone, that goes on all vacations with me. Sister Ever [Rejoicing]\u2013 Now people have seen that. (unintelligible exclamation) <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Shh. Don\u2019t clap. What\u2019s more, they\u2019ve seen us put our money\u2013 Last night, one of our sisters, her husband not a member of the church, but we\u2013 she\u2019s a good<\/em> sister, and her husband, he\u2019s a\u2013 he drinking too much. Well, we didn\u2019t think twice about getting him out. I asked her first if she wanted<\/em> him out\u2013 (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Naturally I think she\u2013 That\u2019s up to the sister. (stumbles over words) maybe if we get some rest, but we didn\u2019t ask the moment, we got that bail and put it up. All of you know about it, don\u2019t need to go into it. And we had for Brother [David Betts \u201cPop\u201d] Jackson, who is, as I said, 93 years of age, when they falsely arrested him, thousand dollars was put up right then. (Pause) When people go, ask them where they\u2019re going. (Pause) Say, come back and see us sometime when the world\u2019s on fire.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

(Pause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I don\u2019t understand how anybody could come around me, seeing me adopt eight babies, come around these old used robes, and I don\u2019t even\u2013 Sister here, Sister Wilson will clean them, for nothing. But I don\u2019t even like to take them uh, because she\u2013 her boss is nice, and he said he wanted to clean as many as possible for nothing, but I will iron them up and spot them as much as I can, so as not to take advantage even of her kindness. (Pause) And (pause) this morning (clears throat) I was back there cleaning the rug, shampooing the r\u2013 shampooing a rug. I didn\u2019t have nobody else do it. An awful mess somebody made, so I shampooed it all myself. (Calls out) I don\u2019t know why anybody (pause) wouldn\u2019t be in here. There\u2019s nothing else but false gods. This is the only true<\/em> god that\u2019s honored in this place. The only thing true<\/em> in the whole church world (John 17:3, \u201cAnd this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I don\u2019t understand it. I wish I knew a man like Jim Jones. And I never preached like this before, but this is just the depth of my heart. (Ministerial fervor) I wish I had a man to follow like Jim Jones. I\u2019d be so glad, oh, I would take just anything he said, I would do anything he wanted me to do, I\u2019d give everything to follow a man like Jim Jones. But I have to be<\/em> that man. It\u2019s a lonely job being<\/em> that man, because I\u2019ve got to be the man that will never let you down, and I never will. I\u2019ve got to be the man that\u2019s as dependable as the Rock of Gibraltar, I\u2019ve got to be as unchangeable at the sun. (Pause) And I am. But oh, how I\u2019d like to have a man to follow like you have.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Ministerial cadence) I wish I knew a man that would help me like I help you. I wish I knew a man that had a heart for his people like I have for you. I would like to find such a man. (Voice lowers) I don\u2019t even want him for me. I don\u2019t want him for me, \u2018cause I don\u2019t want anything for me. I just want to have another man like me for you. (Pause) It was thrilling yesterday, when I was able to use one of my men, in case this body have to be away for a while, it was beautiful how I just called him out and said, you\u2019re gonna stand there, I\u2019m gonna send my thoughts to you, \u2018cause I felt some of my people gettin\u2019 shaky, what\u2019s gonna happen to me if Jim Jones isn\u2019t here. What\u2019s gonna happen? They got kinda shaky. And I stood him over there at that microphone, nice gid\u2013 nice young man, got part Indian in him, all races and alley dog like the rest of us. (clears throat) Studying to be a lawyer, halfway through law school, and I just says, stand up there, I\u2019m gonna practice God through you. And that\u2019s what I\u2019m doing. Only I perfected<\/em> it. Some people practice a piano, and then some other people have perfected it. So I practiced God, and I went through his mind and called out, when you were one, wasn\u2019t you healed? What was he, the\u2013 I don\u2019t remember now, the head? The ear infection? Or joint? Who was the other sister I called out? You<\/em> were called out and healed from him. I told him my thoughts, I wrote them down here as I do, and then I meditated on them, and they went right through to him, and he brought the healing. Marvelous, marvelous, marvelous.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And that\u2019s what I want. I\u2019d like to have a man like Jim Jones, so that there\u2019d be more of me<\/em> for you. (Pause) So we gotta get on with it. Now the offering was taken, but the offering wasn\u2019t uh\u2013 It wasn\u2019t right. Now I can\u2019t guarantee we can get a plane, that\u2019s a half million dollars, but I\u2019d like to ask today, how many would help us, right now. You understand why we need one? <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Do you? <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Quick<\/em>. To be quick. Also we could get some job training for our people. Our men would have jobs that people would want, wherever we went. You understand me? (Pause) And we can buy a plane\u2013 We can buy a plane from a company for a half million dollars that will train\u2013 a little over a half million, five four\u2013 five hundred and forty-seven thousand, I think, wasn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n

Voice in Congregation: <\/strong> too soft<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And they\u2019ll train, they\u2019ll train. It\u2019s a jet<\/em>. Four engine, isn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n

Voice in Congregation: <\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Four engine. Here\u2019s a pilot, he\u2013 he\u2019s a pilot, professional pilot, he\u2019s good pilot. He\u2019s pilot in the Air Force.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And as I said, we could use it\u2013 we could use it for vacation, if they want to, or use it for trips until we did, and we could chart [charter] it out. But what I want it for, is if a day of emergency comes, I want to be able to not cause nobody any grief. I don\u2019t want to fight with nobody. I just want to get my people out. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Say, do you think that\u2019s gonna happen? (clear throat) I know<\/em>, I know that the sixteenth at 3:09 is gonna happen. I know that\u2019s<\/em> gonna happen. So, I\u2019ve got such an ominous feeling about the other, it might happen before the sixteenth. (Pause) So all the provisions we got up there in the valley would be wonderful, but if we have a dictatorship, the valley isn\u2019t enough protection against a dictatorship. So we gotta have little place here and a little Shangri-La over there<\/em>. You know, over there. Some of you don\u2019t<\/em> know where \u201cover there\u201d is. But I do. And that\u2019s good enough for you, if you know me. I do.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Response<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Cries out) I know a place where I can take you, where there\u2019ll be no more racism, where there\u2019ll be no more division, where there\u2019ll be no more class exploitation, I know just the place. (Voice drops) Oh yes, I do.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Conversational) And you won\u2019t have to\u2013 And you won\u2019t have to worry about getting angel wings, if we get our own plane. (Pause) And we\u2019d have something to bring in, that would be valuable to us, if we resettled. Say, you really do think we might have to resettle. (Pause) The Jews<\/em> should\u2019ve. (Pause) And they just held on, they held on, they wouldn\u2019t let loose. They thought, oh, it can\u2019t happen to us. We\u2019re God\u2019s chosen people. Well, we niggers know we ain\u2019t<\/em> God\u2019s chosen people.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now you two sisters that came to get healed, you just stay (unintelligible word)\u2013 some of you folk act like you\u2019re\u2013 You see? Look at them. New people coming in, they\u2019re precious people, they don\u2019t know their ass from a hole in ground.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Reacts<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019m lookin\u2019 right at you. You look like you\u2019re all tied up. You\u2013 you oughta be at home with me. I\u2019ve got the biggest heart, I\u2019ve adopted eight children, and you look at me\u2013 I\u2019m lookin\u2019 at one right now, you\u2019re stiff, tight. You oughtna be scared of me, you oughta be scared of all those preachers that\u2019ve robbed you, that\u2019s who you oughta be scared of.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (clears throat) You can look around. Don\u2019t do it. I don\u2019t want anybody to be made uncomfortable. \u2018Cause you can look up here. I\u2019m not being stared at by white people that hate me or dislike me. I\u2019m being stared at by some black people, who don\u2019t know they\u2019re black.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Calls out) Where do you think you are, in 1973? What\u2019s just happened? (Voice lowers, intense) They just exposed all over America that black children are being castrated<\/em>. The government<\/em> has castrated them. They just exposed this year that blacks were given syphilis and never given a penicillin treatment and experimented with like a bunch of common rats by the U.S. Department of Health, that 350 Mexican mothers was given a drug that has produced cancer in everything that\u2019s ever taken it, and they were told that it was birth prevention, and it didn\u2019t even prevent them from getting pregnant. They got pregnant, and they\u2019re doomed<\/em>, they\u2019re absolutely doomed to die in 18 years, no less, they and<\/em> their children will die<\/em> of cancer, and the government did this. What in the hell\u2019s the matter with you? Don\u2019t you know where you are?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Come on, sister. Don\u2019t you know where you are?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Nod your head. That\u2019s better, that\u2019s better. (Pause) Don\u2019t you know where we are? We\u2019re living in Babylon. Some of you act like you\u2019ve never read some of the books about what we\u2019re in. Have you read our brothers\u2019 books as they cried, telling what kind of problem we\u2019ve got? We been reading too many King James\u2019 fairy tales. (Pause) And I don\u2019t think there\u2019s anybody that\u2019s got the heart for the people like we have here, but it woulda been uh, done some of you good if you\u2019da read Soul on Ice<\/em> and some other books instead of the stupid stuff you been readin\u2019. (Pause) How many have read Soul on Ice<\/em> in here? <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You never read about Soul on Ice<\/em>, huh? (Pause) Do you know who\u2019s read \u2018em? Half the folk here has read \u2018em. Uh, more than half<\/em> who are not black but white. Well, uh\u2013 It isn\u2019t that he\u2019s [Eldridge Cleaver] got the answers. No, no, I\u2019m not suggesting that he has all the answers \u2013 certainly violence is not an answer \u2013 but he sure tells you what you\u2019re<\/em> facing. And you should know<\/em>. You better read more about Harriet Tubman to see what kind of conditions we\u2019re facing. (Pause) I\u2019d like to see you get free<\/em>. But there\u2019s an old sayin\u2019, my\u2013 my folks and your folks told us about it, God not help those unless they help themselves. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> God\u2019ll help<\/em> those who help themselves. And there not gonna be any help, not gonna be (calls out) nary a bit a help\u2013 (Pause) Shake\u2013 shake yourself a little bit, honey child. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Nearby voice:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hmm? Peace. (pause) I wonder who will help us. Now we\u2019re gonna call this Operation Plane. (Pause) And I wonder who\u2019ll help us get a hold of that thing. Now anybody got any questions about why we need a plane, \u2018cause I\u2019ll be glad to explain \u2018em to you. We should have one. (Pause) And we want to represent it just exactly like it is, we should have one, because I can get you someplace in about six hours, by jet, where your troubles would look like nothing compared to what they do now. (Pause) Your troubles would seem like nothing there. I don\u2019t want to leave<\/em> this country \u2013 this is our country \u2013 but I certainly don\u2019t intend to stay here If they take it over with a dictatorship. <\/p>\n

Nearby voice:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I know, when Marcus Garvey tried to do it, they tried to block him. (Pause) But uh, there\u2019s a difference between some of us and Marcus Garvey these days. If they try to block us, they better be damn ready to kill all of us.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Shouts and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. (Pause) Let \u2018em go home, don\u2019t talk to \u2018em, that\u2019s uh\u2013 It\u2019s all right. Let \u2018em be. (Pause) Anybody that can put on any kinda contest, any kinda program, any kind of thing that you can think<\/em> of, but she just take an act of faith. So don\u2019t get the idea\u2013 (tape edit) \u2013 of what you can. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now (laughs) (Pause) I\u2019ll tell you one thing, I\u2019d do anything to get you free, that wo\u2013 I\u2019d do anything but do violence to somebody, I\u2019d do anything. I\u2019d do anything to get you free, and I will. So if you read about me doing something in the paper sometimes, say I don\u2019t understand why he\u2019s doing it, you can know one thing. I did it to get you free. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019m going to mention some sums here, and let\u2019s see what we can do. I didn\u2019t know we were going to do it, but I feel we\u2019re gonna take it uh, on, and even in a week when the offering is terrible, but we ought to have us a plane. We ought to. (Pause) Yeah, the attorney over there that was\u2013 I healed of cancer, the Jewish attorney, some of these people lost all their relatives like he, Dr. [Richard] Tropp lost every relative he\u2019ve got, every one of \u2018em was killed in concentration camps. Didn\u2019t have nobody<\/em>. They killed them all<\/em> in Germany. And Germany had less power in the hands of the president than we\u2019ve got in ours today. <\/p>\n

Voice in Congregation:<\/b> True. Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So, yes, sister. (Pause) (unintelligible word)<\/p>\n

Woman 1:<\/b> Uh, I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m not a member of this congregation. I belong to church. And I talked to one of the sisters on the welcome committee as I came in. I explained to her, I stand to be changed or questioned, whatever, but I stood to make a contribution to the uh, idea you have of buying a plane. I do a lot of fishing\u2013<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now, little\u2013 little\u2013 a little slower, darling, it\u2019s\u2013 it\u2019s coming through garbled.<\/p>\n

Woman 1:<\/b> \u2013do a lot of fishing, and I\u2019m a friend to Sister Jones. I\u2019m willing to donate all the fish that I catch to the church to do whatever you wish to do with it towards your uh, plan to raise money for your plane.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s awful sweet of you.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (unintelligible word) (tape edit) \u2013she\u2019s not seen me, she\u2019s not seen me bring people out of the wheelchairs or raise the dead, or she\u2019s not seen me cause people to spit up cancers and all kinds of things. <\/p>\n

Voice in Congregation:<\/b> too soft<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They sure in the right church, are they?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Anyway\u2013 Peace. This uh\u2013 (Pause) This I say. If a woman can come in here and not\u2013 and hear me preachin\u2019 kinda strong and saying a lot of s\u2013 words that I don\u2019t accustom\u2013 not customarily use, and she can stand up and see the emphasis enough to say, well, I\u2019ll\u2013 I\u2019m a fisherwoman<\/em>, and I will donate the fish. Wonder what about you that\u2019ve seen me go down in the jails right in this town and take my people out of them. I mean, you\u2019ve seen me go right in a riot and keep the peace. You\u2019ve seen me get every one of my people bailed out that was there, falsely accused, otherwise. You\u2019ve seen me adopt eight babies, take 200 that were starving, send all that money to Biafra, we\u2013 you can feel proud\u2013 Uh, not Biafra, but sub-Sahara, we sent it to Biafra too. But now we\u2019re sending food to the sub-Sahara, because you know nine million people are due to die. Nine million of our black brothers and sisters are due to die? (clears throat)<\/p>\n

Voice in Congregation:<\/b> too soft<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They\u2019re due to die by\u2013 within 60 days. Just from starvation. You said, God\u2019ll help them. Yeah, baloney. God don\u2019t help nobody. We\u2019re<\/em> gonna have to help them. We have to become the hands and feet of God. Nobody helps anybody unless they help themselves. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. (pause) All right. I think then\u2013 I\u2019m going to mention the sum, then anybody can say, I\u2019ll take it on, I\u2019ll take it on. \u2018Cause I really, from my heart to yours, I\u2019m telling you, we need it. (Pause) One thousand. Anybody that\u2019ll stand up and say I\u2019ll give\u2013 (tape edit)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I just a moment ago\u2013 I just a few minutes ago sent a message by revelation to the telephone, as I said, about Sister Neil, Sister Lillian Neil\u2019s daughter, who was attempting to commit suicide. But the call that I sent from this meeting lifted her at that very moment. She changed her heart. Now let\u2019s think gratefully upon that. The moment David and Rick called, as I told them, that moment, it saved her, because that very moment, she was contemplating taking her life. I didn\u2019t know<\/em> her. I didn\u2019t even know her. But I knew the precious mother, I knew her, by revelation, Sister Neil. Let\u2019s think about our sister here that was being attacked by the knife, Sister Alfredo Saffold, being attacked. They choked her, they\u2019d beaten her, they\u2019d beaten her head, they nearly had her completely killed, and then she thought to call my name, knowing that I\u2019m crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ that liveth in me (Galatians 2:20, \u201cI am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.\u201d).<\/span> And she said, Jim, stop it. And the knife\u2013 the knife broke. Broke off. Right there. And that\u2019s just a (tape distortion) <\/p>\n

End of tape<\/p>\n

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