{"id":60680,"date":"2014-07-04T02:56:00","date_gmt":"2014-07-04T02:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60680"},"modified":"2019-03-12T03:31:51","modified_gmt":"2019-03-12T10:31:51","slug":"q962-transcript","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60680","title":{"rendered":"Q962 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><strong>If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<p>To return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here.<\/a><br \/>\nTo read the Annotated Tape Transcript, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60684\">click here<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo read the Tape Summary, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60613\">click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (<a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q962 (Side A).mp3\">Pt. 1<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q962 (Side B).mp3\">Pt. 2<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now I will not review the thirteenth chapter of Mark, \u2018cause it says the same thing, only some errors. The story\u2019s told just a little different. Every time you read the Bible, the story\u2019s told just a little different. That\u2019s what King James has done to the Bible. It\u2019s like four people is on a corner watching an accident, not one of  them can tell the truth about it. They all see it differently. And most churches will say, that\u2019s the way you gotta take the Bible, four people witnessing. Well, we don\u2019t take four people on a corner and uh, judge our life by what four people on a corner say, do we?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Right<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> But this Bible is to be taken as what constitutes <em>hell<\/em> and <em>heaven<\/em>, your fate, your future, everything you do, the church tells you, you gotta believe according to this Bible. And yet these preachers will stand, when you show \u2018em a discrepancy, and they\u2019ll say, well, look at it this way. It was like four different people looking at an accident. Well, if these people are just people, then throw it <em>away<\/em>. We don\u2019t need people\u2013 we\u2019re not looking for four people that were watching an accident, we want to hear God tell what he\u2019s doing himself. We want God to speak for himself. We don\u2019t want four people telling us what God said, we want God to tell us, for himself. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Say, you can\u2019t expect that. Oh yes, you <em>can <\/em>expect that. If you don\u2019t <em>have<\/em> it, then God is a <em>liar<\/em>. \u2018Cause it is written, God is no respecter of persons. Out of one blood, he made all nations. That\u2019s why I have Jesus blood. There\u2019s only one blood. God is no respecter of persons.  Said what he\u2019s done for one, he\u2019ll do for all. You sing a sing, what he\u2019s done for you, he\u2019ll do for others. (unintelligible word) the secret what he\u2019s done for you, he can do for all. Now if he appeared to Nebuchadnezzar, who was a racist who owned slaves, Nebuchadnezzar and the king of Babylon, in the fiery furnace, he looked out there, he saw Ashack, Meshach, and Abendego [Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego], and then, baby, he looked and he saw Jesus Christ, God. Right?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s what he said, he said he saw four. Solomon saw him, and he said his hair was as black as a raven. Well, I\u2019m pretty close to it. And I\u2013 some will (unintelligible word)\u2013 I got some idiots that say I dye my hair. That\u2019s <em>my<\/em> hair, baby. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> There\u2019s Brother Lewis, by the way, back there. If any of you want to see him, he\u2019s standing in the door, where the three\u2013 he was  shot three times, you can put your hands right in the wounds, he\u2019ll show it to you. Don\u2019t hesitate. He took his shirt off last time so that all of you could see it, but if you want to be believer, if you have to be a doubting Thomas, I\u2019d rather you would just admit that you\u2019re a Thomas and say, I want to <em>see<\/em> it. He <em>told<\/em> you\u2013 I told him to stay in 14 days, and the thirteenth day, he went out, but he was a man of goodwill, and they <em>kicked<\/em> him over and said, now trust in that sucker Jones. And he did, and he called my name, and the doctor didn\u2019t have to do a thing for him. Now <em>what<\/em> do you think about somebody that can bring a bullet through the heart, and man can get up like he is, standing there with no trouble. I ask you to <em>look<\/em> for yourself. Don\u2019t take my word. Don\u2019t go out of here a doubting Thomas. Ask him to show you and he\u2019ll show you where it went right in here and out here. (Clears throat)<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in Congregation:<\/b> Right<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Right through the heart, side cavity, right through the back and out through there. (Pause) So don\u2019t take my word. Just look at it. And anybody knows anything about guns, you\u2019ll know that he was shot with a high-powered pistol. All right. Now. If God appeared to Nebuchadnezzar and Solomon \u2013 and my hair ain\u2019t dyed, this is mine \u2013 And if he appeared to all the prophets, major and minor\u2013 (Pause) Here\u2013 You\u2013 Sister, you still worrying out that? You want me to pluck out my eyelash or one of my hairs and give it to you? (Pause) (unintelligible word) crazy bunch. You see my eye? You see they don\u2019t look black? Nobody puts dye in their eyes or they\u2019re crazy, they\u2019ll go blind. You oughtna put that lead on you anyway, that lead content, but you don\u2019t\u2013 sure, all of \u2018em tells you don\u2019t put no\u2013 none in your eyes, \u2018cause I had to <em>heal<\/em> one woman, she said I got it in my eyes, and her eye went blind. So if you have to pluck out one of my hairs, you go have it analyzed. I would like for you to believe. (Pause) (Tches) It\u2019s terrible. Sittin\u2019 there worryin\u2019 about whether my hair is black or not. It\u2019s\u2013 it\u2019s not my hair, but Solomon said his hair was black as a raven. (Pause) Moses saw him, said\u2013 saw him and spoke with him as man would face to face, <em>Jacob<\/em> met him and wrestled with him all night with\u2013 like a man, he was fightin\u2019 with him, like a lot of folk do with me, they just don\u2019t want to accept the truth, they got an old black book, all this ever did, this man that wrote this black book, put the w\u2013 early whites in slavery, took the blacks in the first Ship Jesus, and brought them back from Africa. Here\u2019s the man that did it. King James of England. He was a whoremonger, alcoholic, and a slaveowner. He was a drunk, he did every devious thing you could think of. He cut out the books of Barnabus, the books of the Apocrypha, the books of Wisdom, he cut \u2018em all out. It was King James that took us from our slave\u2013 into our slavery from our beautiful homes in the far country. Took us from the Abraham Promised Land, into this harbra\u2013 this hurrying\u2013 harrowing and horrendous slave country. And you gonna judge me by this? Mario did on Tuesday, and he died. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises throughout) Peace. All right. But I\u2019ll just use it l\u2013 logically. God is no respecter of persons. All right? What he\u2019d done for one, he\u2019ll do for you. What is that song? (Sings) What he\u2019d done for others, he\u2019ll do for you. T\u2019is no secret\u2013 (speaks) No, you heard it all. (Pause) Now if God appeared to Solomon, and God appeared to Jacob, and Jacob wrestled with him all night long, and on the morning, Jacob had more sense than folk in here. I just used a young man for the first time and sent my mind to him and healed you, your ear trouble\u2019s all gone now, isn\u2019t it. Your arthritis is gone back there, that I healed. God. Pain\u2019s all gone. I sent my mind to him, and he did it to you, like a ricochet. (Pause) And\u2013 and then\u2013 But <em>Jacob <\/em>had more sense. All that man did in that Bible was, after the morning began to appear, the dung  that the\u2013 the dusk began\u2013 the\u2013 the\u2013 the dawn began to open up his eyes, and he <em>looked <\/em>on the man, and the man just looked at him and he said uh, uh\u2013 said, what is your name? I <em>tell <\/em>you what your name is. I told her through <em>him<\/em>. My God. I told her through him where she come from, where her children was, I saved the son by the name of Roosevelt, he was gonna be in accident, two of his children would\u2019ve been killed, I\u2019ve already saved him.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace. (Pause) (Ministerial fervor) I did it by transmission. The radio station. You don\u2019t know who the radio station is, you ought to, \u2018cause you just saw, I am the <em>radio<\/em> station.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace. And I <em>transmitted <\/em>to him, (voice moderates) and he brought healing to you. (Clears throat) But Jacob didn\u2019t even have that kind of a thing. Jacob\u2013 that man just said, what is your name? But there was something different about the way the man said it, and Jacob said, I have met God face to face. I will name the place Peniel. And all the man says, I\u2019m gonna change your name from Jacob to what?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Murmurs \u201cIsrael\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises throughout) Israel. Gonna <em>change<\/em> it. He didn\u2019t tell him what his name was, he just said he was gonna change it. But there was something about the man that said Jacob, I\u2019m gonna name a town after him, I\u2019m gonna build a city, I\u2019m gonna make a place, and I\u2019m gonna call it Peniel, which in the Hebrew meant\u2013 (Voice moderates) It meant in the Hebrew, this day I have met God face to face. <em>Jacob<\/em> wrestled with him, thought he was just a man, but he was God. Now I want you to get this, because it\u2019s your difference between life and death. You got trouble with your heart, honey, you could stand to get this down in yours, real close too. (Pause) It is important that you have it down close, because I want to make this so plain that, though a man be a <em>fool<\/em>, you shall not err therein. <\/p>\n<p><b>Woman in Congregation:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I don\u2019t want nobody to die. I come to give everybody life. <em>Wake<\/em> up. Peace. <em>All <\/em>right, all right. Now God appeared\u2013 (Ministerial fervor) Job says I had <em>heard<\/em> of him with the <em>hearing <\/em>of the ear, but <em>now <\/em>mine eyes behold him, and I see him as a man speaketh to a friend <em>face<\/em> to <em>face. Job <\/em>saw him. Mi\u2013 Noah and his wife saw him. All those in the days of Jesus got to walk with him, Martha and Mary, Martha, a\u2013 just an ordinary woman, Mary [Magdalene], a <em>whore<\/em> that was converted. They got to <em>walk<\/em> with <em>God <\/em>in a body <em>face<\/em> to <em>face<\/em>. I tell you, it\u2019s <em>different<\/em> when you walk with God face to face. (Pause) (Voice lowers, then builds throughout) Now I say to you, if God would appear to the Jews in the form of Jesus, and not to blacks and poor whites and the downtrodden of the earth today, if you couldn\u2019t see God and yet God would appear to the Jews, he would be guilty of discrimination. He would be a respecter of persons, but he says, <em>God <\/em>cannot lie. He is no respecter of persons. What he has done for others, he will\u2013 he will do for you.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Moderates) I\u2019m just about finished. That means God had to have a body in every generation, or God is an absolute <em>liar<\/em>. (Pause) Well, I can prove to you, he\u2019s got a body. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace. (Pause) But this is not the proof, just that I\u2019m doing the <em>works <\/em>that no many can do. Say, well, the devil can heal. Oh, you\u2019re a liar. Your Bible never even taught you that. Even King James didn\u2019t teach you that. Said all good things come down from above. All these people I\u2019ve healed, given jobs, homes, set them from\u2013 free from prison, healed them from blindness, saved them from cancer, save them from body cast, took them out of wheelchairs, you mean the devil does that? You\u2019re a liar. They called Jesus a prince of devils too, they called him not only a devil, they said he was <em>Beelzebub,<\/em> the <em>mastery <\/em>of witchery, the <em>master <\/em>of trickery, the <em>master <\/em>of the flies. Oh, how evil people are. They said no man can cast out a devil with a devil. No man can heal with a devil. He said if it were so, a house would be divided against itself. When somebody does good, it has to be God. (Calls out) And I\u2019m doing more good than anybody on earth today.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace. Peace. Now you couldn\u2019t be expected to know that, sitting here. But those that <em>know<\/em> me know it.  (clears throat) I\u2019ve set people free all over this world. I\u2019ve healed\u2013 There\u2019s a woman in Africa that was eaten up with cancer, the wife of a chief, she now conducts our mission in Nigeria. Eaten away with cancer. Legs gone, eye gone, she\u2019s restored. Sister Nizarum [phonetic], I\u2019m talking about Sister Nizarum. You know who I\u2019m talking about. I\u2019ve adopted eight babies. I took 200 in that were starving. Some of you can\u2019t know that, it\u2019s your first time here, but if you go up to Redwood Valley and look all over there\u2013  There\u2019s a little miniature. Oh, how beautiful Brother Heywood has got it. How beautiful he\u2019s got it. That\u2019s just like our main mother cha\u2013 church at the Temple. All of our buses, our children\u2019s home. Over here, our seniors\u2019 home. Then across the street in those beautiful trees, a lovely convalescent home, and there\u2019s white and black, and they\u2019re throwing their Bible down. (Calls out) Hey (unintelligible word) Spirit of God, hey, (same unintelligible word)<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s what you\u2019re supposed to do, cast down every idol, cast down every idol. This is an idol, because it murders. Anything that murders is an idol. Anything that kills is an idol. It\u2019s a paper <em>idol<\/em>. It\u2019s kept you in slavery. It\u2019s kept women in slavery. (Voice calms, then rises) Right now, a man\u2019s average salary is nine thousand dollars, but a woman\u2019s average salary is four thousand. A woman can work hard as a man, but she\u2019ll get four thousand, and a man gets nine. Why? Because the women are taught by King James to obey, to be subject to their husband. What\u2019s subject mean? Be a <em>slave<\/em> to their husband.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered calls<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I didn\u2019t know I was gonna preach so long, but baby, I\u2019ll preach the truth all day long if I have to.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace. (clears throat) (pause) (Calls out) <em>You<\/em> don\u2019t believe that book, only when you want to. It says, women, keep silent in all the churches. Suffer not a woman to teach. Suffer not a woman to speak. If she\u2019s got a question, ask her husband. Where can you find your husband? Some of your husbands\u2019 been killed, been destroyed by the slave system. (Pause) You have no husband, yet the church says no woman is to speak in the church. You don\u2019t believe that Bible, only when you want to. King James put <em>lies<\/em> in there. He said, slaves, obey your master. Servants, obey your master. If you\u2019ve got a good master, be thankful. If you have a bad master, he said, <em>endure <\/em>him. Is it in the book? Yes, it\u2019s in the book. That\u2019s why we had people owning <em>black<\/em> people. That\u2019s why they were put in slavery, and they were told not to question, because if they had a good master, be thankful, but if they had a bad master, endure him. I\u2019ve come and told you, there are no masters. We shall be <em>free<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises throughout) <em>Never<\/em>. Never in the history of mankind has a black book done so much in\u2013 infamy as this book. It brought blacks in chains, it murdered the Indians, till there\u2019s not one hardly left. Their tribes are gone. Their religion is gone. Their culture is gone. The Mexican people, their whole nation was <em>robbed <\/em>from them, the Mexican Indians, in the name of this black book. (Pause) It is a paper idol. It\u2019s a destroyer. It\u2019s a <em>killer<\/em>. Second Corinthians 3:6 says, it will murder. The Bible\u2013 the letter kills, murders, but the spirit \u2013 truth, love \u2013 makes alive. This is a murderer, and this dear woman is throwing it down. There\u2019s where all lies deserve to be thrown. <em>Down<\/em>. Every enemy shall be put down.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Calms, then rises throughout) <em>That<\/em> is your enemy. The letter kills. The Bible murders. And up there in the valley, if you could know me, you would see those lovely c\u2013 convalescent homes, those senior citizen homes, those children\u2019s home, the animal shelter. Just like that, there are three rabbits, by the way. Four. And the birds. It\u2019s almost like the two birds that are there taken care of, that couldn\u2019t even stand up, there\u2019s pigeons that were laying all around here, dead, round this place, laying on their side. Do you know that every pigeon that\u2019s been sent to us is now sitting <em>lively<\/em>, flapping its wings. (Calls out) God is a restorer.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Calms) How I appreciate Brother Heywood\u2019s inspiration that he would write this. What a <em>beautiful <\/em>picture. People came out and sa\u2013 some people are saying out there, there\u2019re too many pictures of Jones. I said, until people get away from the pictures of an unknown God, until they take away white angels and white Jesuses, my picture <em>shall <\/em>remain.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s very well with me. It\u2019s very well with me, if you want to put up a picture of Harriet Tubman. She was a mighty epistle. If you want to pit a\u2013 pit a\u2013 put up a picture of this black Moses, Harriet Tubman, but I\u2019m tired of looking at Jesuses you never saw. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause and calls<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> So we\u2019ll have a right. This is our house. You didn\u2019t pay a penny of it. No Christian churches, no Bible-totin\u2019 people paid a dime of this place, we worked and slaved, this is the people\u2019s house, and we\u2019ll put in here what pleases us.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Say, well, that\u2019s idolatry. No. I\u2019m alive. You\u2013 An idol is something that\u2019s <em>dead<\/em>. An idol means something that is dead. And if you think I\u2019m dead, then you\u2019re mighty, awfully blind, and you\u2019re pretty deaf, (Cries out) because I\u2019m <em>lively <\/em>in every <em>body<\/em>, in every <em>atom<\/em>, in every <em>cell<\/em>, of my bodily form, ahh, yes I am. Spirit!<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Ministerial fervor) I haven\u2019t slept for <em>nine<\/em> long days or nights. But I\u2019m as lively\u2013 You want to take me on in a race? Because I can<em> run <\/em>and not be weary, I can <em>walk <\/em>and <em>not <\/em>be faint. (Voice drops) Oh, yes, I can.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> God would be a respecter of persons, if he would appear to a mother, Martha, and to Mary, and not to you. And he proved that he was no respecter of persons, \u2018cause King James didn\u2019t get all the truth out of it. But you have to have a preacher to bring the truth out. And I\u2019ve brought it out, in <a href=http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=14111>this book<\/a>, all the truth of it is in the first few pages. Then it shows you the lies in the back. And you better get the truth, \u2018cause the truth will set you free. I\u2019m just about finished now. (Pause) What happened when Mary and Martha saw Jesus put in the tomb? Bible says he was there for three days. That\u2019s <em>another <\/em>lie. King James says he was there for three days. He was buried on Friday and supposed to\u2019ve come out on Sunday. That means a day and a half. (Pause) Bible said Jesus, after he was baptized with the Holy Ghost in the river Jordan, a dove settled on his head, one uh, part of the Bible said he went over to the w\u2013 wilderness to be tempted [by] the devil for 40 days and 40 nights. Right? <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Another writer in the same Bible said no. Three days after he was tempt\u2013 after he was baptized, he was over in Cana of Galilee, to\u2013 at a wedding feast, turning water into wine. Now you can\u2019t be in a wilderness for 40 straight days and 40 nights, and yet three days after you\u2019re baptized be over 80 miles away at Cana of Galilee turning water into wine. What was he doing? Same thing I did this time. How many were here when I changed pitcher after pitcher after pitcher of water into wine?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises throughout) That\u2019s what I was doing. I wasn\u2019t in no wilderness moo\u2013 fooling \u2018round with no devil. I don\u2019t <em>know<\/em> any devil. There is no <em>place <\/em>for the devil. I recognize no spirit but God. God is the only power that be. All powers that be are ordained of God, and there is no power but of God. I wouldn\u2019t talk to no devil for 40 days or 40 nights. Maybe your Jesus would, but I don\u2019t. I\u2019m talking <em>life<\/em> to my children. There\u2019s no devil around me. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause and calls<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I\u2019m sure shakin\u2019 up folk.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause and calls<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (clears throat) (calms) I (unintelligible word) no time to talk to no devil for 40 days and 40 nights. I won\u2019t give a devil 40 seconds. There\u2019s only one kinda devil. Two-legged.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Stirs, then light applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Devil is a state of consciousness. Satan is a state of S\u2013 uh, Saturn uh, vibration, and it\u2019s too complicated to get into, it isn\u2019t a\u2013 no such thing as a personality. And he looked around at Peter one time, and he said, Peter, you\u2019re a rock. I\u2019m gonna build a church on you. Another time he looked at Peter and he said, Get thee behind me, Satan, \u2018cause he was in a state of uh, aggravation and unbelief and uh, cynicism and ugly old morose nasty spirit. You know, you\u2019ve seen a lot of devils like that.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> He looked around at S\u2013 Peter, and he said, <em>Satan<\/em>, get thee behind me. Because Satan isn\u2019t a man, he\u2019s a state of mind.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Well, anyway. (Pause) And Jesus is not to be looked after, after the flesh. You\u2019re to know no many after the flesh, after he\u2019s gone, not even Jesus. That\u2019s what Paul told you. Know <em>no<\/em> man after the flesh, after he\u2019s gone, (deliberate) not even Jesus. What happened now? In the tomb, they were supposed to be laid. Jesus. He never even went to a tomb, actually, he went to India. (Short laugh) But I won\u2019t get into that, that\u2019s too complicated. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Delayed stirring, then applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I had some good followers in that day, \u2018cause this a greater day than Jesus\u2019 day, these are the\u2013 these are the <em>greater<\/em> things. Jesus said, these things shall you do, and greater. This is a greater day than Jesus. He said, these things shall you do, and greater, because I go to the Father. Actually, Jesus didn\u2019t <em>actually<\/em> die there. (Pause) Joseph of Aramathea, they just were <em>good<\/em> disciples, and they had him drug well. They had him drugged well. And they took him out, paid the soldiers, slipped him away, and he went to India, and he did a lot of teaching over there before they finally got to him. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I don\u2019t care whether you believe it or not. I know, \u2018cause I was there.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> But anyway, what happened\u2013 This is the glorious thing that did happen (claps hands slowly, rhythmically), because he moved out of the contact of that woman, and for a period of time he was gone. And somebody else moved into that hundredfold consciousness, because in Jesus\u2019 day, there was more than one body. He moved out of the Israel Palestine area, and <em>down <\/em>the road, they were walking, Mary Martha [Mary Magdalene], saying where have they laid our Jesus. He\u2019s in the tomb, and they were talking \u2013 your Bible tells you the story \u2013 and they were saying they\u2019ve taken our Jesus away, and laid him in grave clothes. And a man came up to them and was listening to them and consoling their heart and comforting them, and they said, he was a gardener. But <em>your<\/em> Bible tells you, it was God. It was Jesus in another body. It was the hundredfold in another body. Though Jesus was in one body, but it hadn\u2019t\u2013 it wasn\u2019t the same body, because they would\u2019ve known Jesus. That\u2019s the way I had to work a miracle here, and transmit to this man, \u2018cause sometime maybe I\u2019ll be away, because I have other sheep which are not of this fold, and I have work to do to prepare mansions for you, not up there, but out someplace else in the world, and some of you might think that I was not present, so I just showed you, though this young man did not look anything like me, yet he <em>was<\/em> me, because he had my mind (Cries out) and my spirit.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Ministerial tone) I put my law into his heart, and I put my <em>spirit<\/em> in his consciousness, and I put my <em>words <\/em>in his mouth, and I put my <em>mind<\/em> in his body. (Pause) (Calms) Well, that\u2019s what I did then in that day, down by the way. They said, oh, where\u2019ve they taken him, but he appeared in a different color, no doubt, different hair color, different eye color, because they didn\u2019t know him. They called him the gardener. And your Bible said, it was the very same Jesus, and the very same God. (Voice rises throughout with ministerial rhythm) God always has had a body, God always will have a body, he said, lo, I am with you. He didn\u2019t say, <em>it<\/em> will be with you, he didn\u2019t say some <em>thing <\/em>will be with you, he said, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world, I will not leave you nor forsake you, never, no never. All may change, but Jesus never, heaven and earth may pass away, but my word shall not pass away.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Calms, then rises throughout) My Word, the divine economy of socialism, God is here to stay. It\u2019s had a body forever, and it always will have a body. If they woulda mown me down with a machine gun out here today, if they were to burn me out here and make nothing but ashes, in five minutes, I would be <em>standing<\/em> here. In <em>five <\/em>minutes, I would be speaking here. I <em>said <\/em>it, and I will <em>keep <\/em>my Word. I said I cannot fail, and I promise you, you will never lose if you follow me.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Calms, then rises throughout) Blessed, blessed. I have proven my work. (Pause) I have proven my work. (Pause) The last weekend that I was here, I called out dozens, because it wasn\u2019t the time for preaching. It was a time to heal. Today, I\u2019ve given you words that, if you will think on them, if you will just look at me, and think on what I am, you will spring up, wellsprings of glory will spring up within your soul. The growths that are there will begin to shrink up and die. The arthritis that is making you in aggravation and pain will\u2013 Suddenly, there\u2019ll be warm flashes going up and down your back and into your shoulders and into your knees, (cries out) <em>even now<\/em>, while I\u2019m sitting here.  <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Intense, but calm) I\u2019ve got the power. I\u2019ve got the power. If someone wants to take it, I\u2019ve got the power, even though they\u2019re in a cast or in a brace to take it, if they have that faith to take it and move it right now, and be just as perfectly normal as they were. Oh, yes, I have, \u2018cause I know what I am. I\u2019ve got the power. (Pause) (glossolalia)<\/p>\n<p>Archie Ijames: Yes, yes, indeed. Thank you. (Laughs) Thank you.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Glory. (Pause) (Voice rises throughout) Look and live, my brother. Look and live, my sister. Say, I don\u2019t want to look at a God like this. You didn\u2019t want to look at Jesus, they said he was a man of sorrows acquainted with grief, he had no comeliness, no beauty that you would desire him, the foxes had dens and the birds had nests, but the Son of Man had no place. You didn\u2019t desire him then, but it\u2019s the same Jesus, and it\u2019s the very same God. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Conversational) Hmm. It\u2019s rough, isn\u2019t it, the truth is rough. It\u2019ll shake you to the shoes. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Responds. Quietens<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace and love. (Pause) Peace and love. It\u2019s very well now. I do feel something in my heart this September. I want us to get through September. I want to ask you, if you will, before I go into of the last healing phases, if you will give something <em>above <\/em>your commitment. This is <em>not<\/em> your commitment. It won\u2019t do you any good. But there is a way to rebuke the devourer. It was said, the only time it\u2019s ever been spoken this month, ten dollars, it\u2019s a way to rebuke the devourer. It\u2019s a way to maintain blessings. How many in this room will stand to your feet and say, I\u2019ll help you pre\u2013 get the food, Father, I\u2019ll give over and above my commitment, a ten dollar \u201cprove me\u201d offering, I\u2019ll give it now. I\u2019ll stand on my feet. How many will do it? Quickly. You must do it quickly. (tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013(unintelligible fragment) God, you say I worship God because he created me out there, the Skygod. And yet the earth is filled with dung. Two out of three babies go to bed hungry, according to President [Richard] Nixon. Wars, rumors of war, race against race, Irish against Irish, black against black, the world filled with pain. I\u2019ve brought you no pain. Everyone that comes near me gets life and healing and uh, deliverance and freedom. Yet people say, well, you gotta worship\u2013 you gotta love your daddy, because your daddy brought you into the world. No, you don\u2019t, you\u2019re not to know any man after the flesh. Some of you had daddies that brought you in because they were drunk. You\u2019re not supposed to worship your daddy, because he\u2019s your daddy. You\u2019re only supposed to respect your daddy if he\u2019s a good daddy. Well, we\u2019ve got a good daddy here. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Blessings. The unknown God never helped you. But <em>this<\/em> house has helped you. You never had a promise that you\u2019d never be lonely, that you\u2019d never be homeless. You never had the Skygod promise you that. But the God that took upon flesh and bones, not the Creator\u2013 I never said I would create you, I said I\u2019d save you. I said I would re-create you, I would re-form you, I said I would save you, and that I do. But you worship somebody that\u2019s brought nothing but pain, and yet you said he\u2019s out there, he\u2019s got all-power. Yet he made some people black and some people poor and some people rich and some people cripple, and yet you worship him. I say we worship only God that we can see, because what we see is what we\u2019ll get. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (clears throat) I warn you, you better not look to anything else. Blessed are the pure in heart, for <em>they<\/em> shall see God. You\u2019ve got to see God in the earth, because what you see, you\u2019ll be like, when you see him, you will be like him, when he appears, you shall be like him. (Pause) The Skygod has everybody worshipping him today, and yet the people are going to bed hungry. There\u2019s wars, famines, an earthquake yesterday that swallowed up several poor Manchurians. Earthquakes in diverse places. And yet you said he had all power. You said, the devil did that. Who made the devil? (Pause) God made the devil, supposedly. Lucifer was the most beautiful angel, right? I\u2019ve got to get this in, because it\u2019s the difference between life and death. I want you to reflect on what I preach today. I want you to testify to what you\u2019ve seen and heard today. I want you to write me a little letter on what message you got out, and I want you to say what you\u2019re willing to do for this revelation of God. Where you think we ought to go, what we ought to do, where we ought to be, whether we should st\u2013 take leave of this country, whether we should flee from the wrath to come, whether we should get up now in the cave in Redwood Valley, <em>where<\/em>? I want you to reflect, because there\u2019s a mystery test on this assembly today. I\u2019ve never asked you to write until this weekend. You must write what you heard, what I said between the words, what I said between the lines, what I said in parables, what was a mystery of the truth that I was bringing to you. (Pause) Oh, please listen, because this test\u2013 uh, you say, I can\u2019t write. I\u2019ll read it if you can\u2019t write, if you try. (Pause) And if you try, no matter <em>who <\/em>tries, you will not lose the test. You\u2019ll not fail the exam, if you try. But it is a test\u2013 I\u2019ve never asked you in all my life, have I, to do this? Wake up, now. Wake that sister up there, she sets, blood pressure problems, you need to stay awake. (Pause) You must hear, and you must perceive and you must understand. What am I saying about God? God is a principle. What is this principle, the rod and staff that\u2019s in my hand? (Dramatic whisper) What is it? What am I? (Quiet) You must know. And what is God? And what is love? And how can you have love? Only by a Pentecostal socialistic economy, where they had, as it was on the day of Pentecost, all things common. You\u2019ve got to know the mystery. You\u2019ve got to understand it, and understand it well. (Long pause) Better put that back on, unless somebody get concerned about their little red scarf and miss the words that I speak. <\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in Congregation:<\/b> Too soft<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Yes, I\u2019m all right. With or without a robe, I\u2019m all right. Peace.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (More emphatic, voice rises throughout) You\u2019ve listened to fairy tales. Billy Graham, who stood before m\u2013 Brother Ijames and myself and Brother [Jack] Beam and several of our ministers, says, I don\u2019t believe a word in the Bible. But he said, it\u2019s the easiest living I know. That\u2019s what he said. In the Claypool Hotel [in Indianapolis]. I <em>heard<\/em> him say it. (Pause) And you\u2019ve listened to liars like that. I\u2019ve heard the same from [A. A.] Allen, I\u2019ve heard the same from even [Kathryn] Kuhlmann. (Pause) They tild\u2013 They tell you what they want you to tell [hear]. Some people come in here and say, if you would only bow before the Skygod.  I\u2019d have to be a <em>liar<\/em> to bow before anything that was smaller than me. I will only give obedience, only abeyance, only principle, I\u2019ll give my life to anything that\u2019s more loving than me. Until I see something more loving than me, I shall remain what I am, unchangeable, unchangeable perfecting love.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause and cheers<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice drops) I will not bow to anything that\u2019s unknown. We\u2019re not to do it. Paul said, don\u2019t bow before the unknown God. He said I perceive, you\u2019re too superstitious, because you have an inscription to the unknown God. (Pause) You say, and Billy Graham will say, as he says every week, God in the beginning loved us. He loved us so much, he made us. If I\u2019d been there, and left all alone in the universe, I wouldna <em>made <\/em>you. Say, where are you from? The first heaven. Another planet. A school of masters. (Pause) (sighs audibly) Aaah. Think on that. I come down here every now and then, but I <em>evolved<\/em>. And I\u2019ve got to bring you up to a vibratory level. You\u2019ve got\u2013 I\u2019ve got to bring your electronic field up. You can\u2019t <em>go<\/em> to where I\u2019ve been from, until I get you up. You came down here out of your own willfulness. Now I want to get you back up. Oh, there\u2019s little truths in that Bible, but you left another planet, another heaven, you left it, and I\u2019ve got to raise your vibrations to be sensitive and loving and kind and sacrificial as I am, as socialistic as I am, and then when I get your vibrations up, you will <em>leave<\/em> the earthbound state. Unless you <em>do<\/em> overcome, you\u2019ll keep going back through matter, \u2018cause your mind is now already reaching an eternal state, so you\u2019ll keep going back through matter. That means you\u2019ll have a body after a body after a body. John the Baptist was who? Elias. Jesus said, if you can receive it, this John the Baptist is Elias, which was and is to come . So if John the Baptist had to come back, and he\u2019s still back here today, (Pause) then <em>you sure<\/em> are gonna have to come back, some of you, stealing, living here with other people\u2019s\u2013 (short laugh)<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n<p>Voices: (unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Conversational) That\u2019s the mystery. As in Adam, all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive. Who was Adam? Know some of these things, see if you can write them to me. The first Adam was a living soul, the second Adam was a quickening spirit. Who could make up for Adam? Only<em> Adam<\/em>. So Jesus was Adam. (Pause) If you\u2019re gonna it by uh, uh, figurative principle. It\u2019s not uh, a literal Adam or a literal Jesus, but the principle\u2019s there. Only Adam could make up for the mistake of Adam. Only <em>you<\/em> can make up for the mistake of you. As a tree lie\u2013 falls, so shall it lie. Whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap. Listen, dear, I didn\u2019t ask you to stay. But one day, you\u2019re gonna need me to heal you of female cancer. You\u2019ve had several bouts with felmale de\u2013 female disorder. Now if you want to go <em>home<\/em>, go <em>home<\/em>. But I am gonna preach here at least another five or ten minutes.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Delayed applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now last Saturday, I let you out at four o\u2019clock. Last Sunday, I let you out at\u2013 before <em>three<\/em>. (Pause) Now today, I\u2019ve got the difference between life and death. I\u2019ve got the pearl of great price. I\u2019ve got the treasure hid, and it\u2019s only by looking and listening that you\u2019re gonna be able to live, and if you listen closely, you\u2019ll find life, and you\u2019ll come out of mortality, and your mortality will put on immortality, and your corruptible will put on incorruptibility.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (glossolalia) (clears throat) And there will be a reincarnation, as long as you keep earthbound in capitalism and selfishness. That\u2019s why I\u2019m ha\u2013 trying so hard. It\u2019s <em>painful<\/em> to become sensitive, but when you become sensitive, then you will be <em>released <\/em>from your earthboundness, and you\u2019ll move on to an advanced field of teachers on another planet, which Brother Cordell can point to you, any night. He\u2019s seen it when a glorious revelation came, even the dogs did exactly what they were told by revelation, everything was ordered, every sound for the next 30 minutes was ordered, exactly what every dog would do, what every thing would do in the field, what every sign would happen. And then it showed where we were going to, the first heaven. It\u2019s actually not the first heaven, it\u2019s the ninth (short laugh) level, but that\u2019s too much. I\u2019ll talk about first heaven, \u2018cause you can understand from kindergarten to the first grade. I\u2019m giving you a lot of stuff that\u2019s not <em>bunko<\/em>, honey, I\u2019m telling you truth now, if you want the truth. I told you I\u2019d give you the <em>truth<\/em>, and the <em>truth <\/em>would set you free.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> But you have to come to the place where you don\u2019t care whether you\u2019re going there or not. You have to just die out to self, where you have no desire to do anything but to give. And then you <em>go<\/em>. When you <em>lose<\/em> your life, you find it. You\u2019ll lift from this earth plane on this state of particular geographic <em>appearances<\/em>, and you\u2019ll move into a time dimension that will move you many, many light years from here in the twinkling of an eye. Nonetheless, the only way you can get there it to overcome. Revelations 3:12 says to him that overcometh, I will make a pillar in the <em>temple<\/em> of the house of God, and you will go no more out into the earth. Your old Bible speaks of it, said God, the principle-bearer. Said Jacob have I loved, Esau have I hated. From when? Before they were born. Why would the principle-bearer, God the Master Ship degree, why would he hate somebody before they were born, unless they\u2019d lived in another body? (Pause) Right?<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered in Congregation:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And you will continue to reincarnate until you overcome and become socialistic. There is no God that made us, we have <em>combusted<\/em>. We have developed from the lower mineral fields, lower energy levels in to the higher schools of evolution. That\u2019s why nobody can come <em>down <\/em>from that heaven and <em>lift<\/em> you, you\u2019ve got to lift yourself. You\u2019ve got to work out your <em>own <\/em>salvation. When you rise on a high vibration, you\u2019ll understand, and then you\u2019ll be one with that symphony. Some people can go into a great symphony, and it\u2019s boring to them, it\u2019s like clatter. They don\u2019t like classical music, because they have no appreciation for the souls that died and sweat, some of those like the blind (mispronounces) [Pytor Ilyich] Tchaikovsky that was even supposed to be\u2013 wasn\u2019t it? Was it, uh, Tchaikovsky, that was supposed to\u2019ve been part Negro? Hmm?<\/p>\n<p><b>Voices in Congregation:<\/b> too soft<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> [Ludwig von] Beethoven, rather. Beethoven. You c\u2013 You don\u2019t know their lives, you don\u2019t know their suffering, so the  symphonies they play, you don\u2019t appreciate, \u2018cause you\u2019re not sensitive to where they are. And when you get sensitive to that next realm, you\u2019ll lift from this plane, and you\u2019ll go to a place where there\u2019s no sickness, no death, no separation, no disease, and no physical restrictions. You can transmit, just like I did like there\u2013 I had to <em>limit <\/em>myself to come into a body. It was very difficult for me to come into a body. But you saw me there functioning in a real way, where I sent\u2013 my body, no doubt, shook under the p\u2013 pressure of it, but I was transmitting a part of my <em>mind<\/em> to that body. (Pause) I can take you to a place. No, there\u2019s no Skygod that made us, no\u2013 that old dumb story, that fairy tale that God was lonely. Who would want to worship somebody that\u2019d be lonely. If I were up there, or you were up there, you wouldn\u2019t\u2019ve made anybody. You\u2019d say I wouldn\u2019t put anybody else in the pain that I\u2019m in, but that crazy God, Billy Graham said, made angels, and then he didn\u2019t like the angels he made, so he made a more beautiful angel, called him Lucifer, and that most beautiful angel named Lucifer <em>rebelled <\/em>and took a third of his angels away. He was so <em>stupid<\/em>, God couldn\u2019t even make an angel that was capable of following him. (Pause) And yet you say that Skygod\u2019s all perfect, he\u2019s all wise, he\u2019s all knowledge, he\u2019s perfection personified, and yet he didn\u2019t have enough sense to make ano\u2013 a\u2013 uh, his most beautiful angel was smarter than he was. He wouldn\u2019t put up with it. Who would? In this old concept of God, people say, I want to go to heaven. I notice nobody\u2019s trying to <em>get <\/em>there. Last night, I said, anybody wants to go to heaven \u2013 I was preaching a harder sermon than today \u2013 I said, stand up, I\u2019ll send you there, right now.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> There wasn\u2019t one. Not a <em>soul <\/em>stood up. I couldn\u2019t <em>beg<\/em> them up. I said, I\u2019ll send you right there. You\u2019ll leave your body. Just stand up. I said, <em>please<\/em>. There wasn\u2019t <em>nobody<\/em> wanted to go.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2018Cause I\u2019ve got the power to do it. You\u2019ve seen them fall in the aisles, and I\u2019ve resurrected them. Even when they were mean and nasty. One white young man, mast\u2013 nasty as he could be, but I brought him back. (Pause) Dramatization of this truth. I brought him back. But after he\u2019d learned a lesson, and it shook and writhed like a say\u2013 a snake, and frothed at the mouth, because he\u2019d been a <em>smart<\/em>-aleck, and not appreciated the black congregation like he ought to. You were <em>here<\/em>, you saw it. Most of you saw when he dropped dead. One dropped dead when he was not supposed to touch this altar. He dropped dead. You were here. How many was here? (Pause) Oh, tt\u2019s happened over and over and over and over and over again. They\u2019ve fallen dead, they\u2019ve been carried up with bowel movement caked on their legs, and I\u2019ve brought them back when they didn\u2019t look like it was possible to put them together. They looked like Ezekiel\u2019s dry bones. They looked like their bones was separated from their skin. Their eyes were sunk in their head, their bowel movement cleared out, caked on their legs, but I put \u2018em back together again. There\u2019s nobody in the universe that can work like I can. (clears throat)<\/p>\n<p><b>Voices in Congregation:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now hear me, \u2018cause you\u2019ll not go through this every week. There\u2019ll be very, very rare times that there\u2019ll be this long a service. I\u2019ve given you all my truth in one package, if you\u2019ve had an ear to hear, what the body of spirit and truth has had to say to the church. (glossolalia) This is the body that\u2019ll bring you salvation. (Pause ) Peace. Peace, Deborah, keep quiet and be seated. (Pause) No, I don\u2019t know her, but she better be seated. Peace. (Pause) This truth is in\u2013 imperative. Now you\u2019ve worshipped the false God and a false Bible, you worshipped a God just because he was out there. You\u2019re supposed to worship him because he made you. That\u2019s no reason to worship somebody. You worship somebody because they <em>prove <\/em>themselves to you. They have to prove a <em>Savior<\/em>-ship to you, they\u2019ve got to be a <em>good <\/em>father. My so-called natural father, who wasn\u2019t my father at all, but he was in the Ku Klux Klan. I don\u2019t respect him, (pause) because he was a <em>bad <\/em>father. (Speaks quietly, then rises throughout) Who is my father, who is my mother, who is sister, my brother, but he that doeth the will of the Father or <em>Truth<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered affirmations<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Conversational) Now (clears throat) Billy Graham says God was lonely, he makes angels, then he make a bad job of making angels, so he makes a\u2013 the most beautiful angel that turned out to be the\u2013 Lucifer, the devil. And that devil leads away his angels, and then he gets tired and he makes a man. Stupid story. I don\u2019t know how you ever believed that stupid story. Then he made a man named Ada\u2013 Adam. A-dam. (Tsks) There\u2019s a mystery in that, but there was no man. (Calls out) <em>Wake up<\/em>. (Whistles) <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Okay. Shift. Shift your knees, shift your bottom, shift it. I\u2013 I will promise you that I\u2019ll finish\u2013 and it\u2019s now ten of six, I will finish before six. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace. (Taps mike) And I want you to read back to me what I\u2019ve given you, because it\u2019s a difference between your life and your death. Some of you are down in jobs as stewards, and you\u2019ve been in kitchen work and you\u2019re on staff work, and you don\u2019t get to hear some of this truth, so today, you\u2019ve had a chance to hear it, and I want to reflect on what you\u2019ve heard. And you won\u2019t need to be embarrassed, no matter how badly you spell, or how badly you write. You\u2019re to write back what you\u2019ve got out of this sermon. And I\u2019ll read every blessed one of them. (Pause) And I\u2019ll separate the sheep from the goats. Peace. Peace. No clapping. I didn\u2019t come to get your adulation. I\u2019m in a consciousness higher than that. They say, <em>worship<\/em> God. I don\u2019t want you to worship. I want you to <em>work<\/em> with God. I\u2019m in a higher consciousness than Jesus. He said, wash my feet. King James says that Jesus said to them, the poor woman, put a whole year\u2019s salary, broke it on his feet to alabaster, and the uh\u2013 Judas said, we could\u2019ve used this money in the treasury to feed the poor, and Jesus was supposed to\u2019ve said, according to King James, the poor you\u2019ll have with you always. Oh, not me. I\u2019m in a greater consciousness than that. I wouldn\u2019t let you waste any alabaster, no perfume on me. No, you don\u2019t have to adulate me, you don\u2019t have to clap for me, you don\u2019t have to say Hosannah to me. That\u2019s why\u2013 People said, well, why would Lucifer ever leave heaven? You get on a\u2013 that old illustration is, you stand on so\u2013 uh, somebody up on a barrel. They once asked the devil, somebody asked him, said, why did you leave heaven? Said, I\u2019ll tell you. Said, you character, said get up on this barrel and I\u2019ll show you why I left heaven. He got up there\u2013 Lucifer got up on the barrel, rather, and he said, now you go around it. What he say, what do you want me to do that for? Said, I just told you to do it. You go around there and sing, Amazing grace, amazing grace, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, and he said, when you get through ten thousand years, you\u2019re gonna have ten thousand more to sing God\u2019s praise. Keep on going\u2013 He said, <em>I\u2019m tired<\/em>. He\u2019d done it about fifty laps, and he said, I\u2019m tired of doing this. He said, that\u2019s exactly what happened to me. Said, I got tired of runnin\u2019 around the throne, singing Hosannah, Hosannah, Hosannah. And you been singin\u2019 about it, you\u2019re gonna go to heaven, you\u2019re gonna stand before the throne of God, and you could stand\u2013 I know some of you folk, you can\u2019t hardly sit here today, and I\u2019m giving you the key to life. But you can\u2019t hardly sit here, and I\u2019m gonna feed you free, if you want to afterwards, and you can\u2019t hardly sit here, and you talkin\u2019 about me, you gonna up around some throne, why you folk\u2019ll be\u2013 you\u2019ll be gripin\u2019 and you\u2019ll be grumblin\u2019 in twenty minutes.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (clears throat) You\u2019ll say, I\u2019m too tired. I\u2019m tired of this. Well, that\u2019s the <em>stupidity<\/em> of the whole story. So he makes Adam. Now I\u2019ll finish with this. I\u2019ve still got very short uh\u2013 I\u2019m on\u2013 I\u2019m only\u2013 it\u2019s only nine minutes of six. And Adam was made out of the dust. And then he spit on it. And he <em>breathed <\/em>into him. And then Adam wasn\u2019t complete, and that\u2019s why women are treated like dogs today. So he takes out a rib, that false God, the Bible God, takes out a rib, and he makes a woman. And she\u2019s subject to him, just to do his pleasure. So she wants to go and <em>feed<\/em> the old fool. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Come on. That\u2019s why women are getting half the salary today. That\u2019s why women don\u2019t get treated like men. Because the Bible makes women less important than men. That\u2019s\u2013 The Bible makes black less important than white. (Calls out) <em>Oh <\/em>yes. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered calls<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises throughout) Anyway, she goes out and she gets\u2013 Uh, God tells her now, you\u2019re\u2013 one tree you\u2019re not to eat of. You can eat of the Tree of Life, but don\u2019t you eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, because the day you do, you\u2019ll die. (Pause) And uh, she said why? Because, he said, your eyes will be open, you\u2019ll become like God. You\u2019re not to eat of that tree. (Pause) And\u2013 (short laugh) Said the day you do, you\u2019ll die. She went out there, and Lucifer, now the most beautiful angel\u2019s turned into a snake. He\u2019s around a tree, and he says, come over here, Eve. Said, now\u2013 now that apple\u2019s good., and if you eat that apple, you\u2019re not gone die. That God\u2019s just jealous. He don\u2019t want you to have as much sense as he does. If you eat it, your eyes will be open and your understanding will be open. That\u2019s what the Sat\u2013 the old snake said, the old devil said. God said, each\u2013 they each are gonna die. And the snake said, the day you eat, you\u2019re gonna <em>live<\/em>. Well, she didn\u2019t know evil from good anyway, so how would she know what to do? You tell a child to go out there and drive a car, he don\u2019t know how to drive a car. He don\u2019t know. You tell a child that\u2019s just born, just barely walkin\u2019, don\u2019t walk through the street, he don\u2019t know what a street<em> is<\/em>. You tell a lion not to eat a rabbit, lions just <em>think<\/em> they\u2019re supposed to eat rabbits, they don\u2019t <em>know <\/em>any better. That was just like Adam and Eve, tell \u2018em <em>not<\/em> to do something. Eve didn\u2019t <em>know<\/em> knowledge from good and evil. That stupid story, all of you oughta been able to see through it. She didn\u2019t know right from wrong, so how would she know how to keep from <em>doing<\/em> right from wrong. So she goes out and she eats the apple, takes it home to her husband, he eats it, and they didn\u2019t die. Who told the truth? The snake. The serpent told the truth, their eyes got open, they went to bed, they had two kids. Two children. Cain and Abel. Right? <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> God messed up all the way along, that false Skygod messed up all the way through. He made C\u2013 uh, Adam, and then that failed on him, because Cain killed Abel with a jawbone of an ass. But Adam was the first man, right? Eve was the first woman, right? Only two, <em>right<\/em>? <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Right<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now what the hell\u2013 where\u2019d that fool Cain go get his wife? <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Laughter and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Cain went over to the Land of what? Nod, and got a woman. Now, how could he get a woman, if Adam and Eve were the only two? <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (In full throat) The first page of the Bible, you see it\u2019s full of hot air. Just read one page, and you see it\u2019s full of a lie. Why won\u2019t you come to me, when I have <em>never<\/em> lied to you? I\u2019ve given you nothing but truth, I\u2019ve given you nothing but health, I\u2019ve given you nothing but homes, happiness, jobs\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice intense but moderate, then calms throughout) And I said I combusted. I set up from the dirt, I arose. Out of the earth, I came. And I shape myself into a God-likeness so that you\u2019d have a way, a pattern, you\u2019d have a sign son to follow. I\u2019ve given you a sign, like the ones in Moses\u2019 day, the sign of the cloud by day and the sign of fire by night. I\u2019ve given you a perfect copy that you can be able to get  to the ninth dimension into the first heaven, to that beautiful planet. Ask him some night to show you how beautiful it is when it radiates through the sky. (Pause) Say, Father, if I follow you, I\u2019ll have to throw away everything I\u2019ve learned. What\u2019ve you got to lose?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Laughter, the light applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises throughout) Where are you today? (Pause) You go home and read Executive Order \u2013 it\u2019s now five of six, I told you I\u2019ll finish by six \u2013 Executive Order 11490 and 11647. You go home and read it. Right now, they\u2019re preparing to set up a dictatorship \u2013 it\u2019s already written into law \u2013 that will give the president power to move people wherever he wants to, to put them in concentration camps, to take over every street car line, over every transportation, over every farm, over every office, over every factory. He\u2019ll put serial numbers and a mark of the beast right on you. You\u2019ll not be anymore a person, you\u2019ll be a number. And every black and brown and poor white will be done away with [see contextual note <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60990\">here<\/a>]. It\u2019s already in law. <em>What\u2019ve<\/em> you got to lose? You say, I\u2019ve got so much to lose. You\u2019ve got nothing to lose but your chains. They didn\u2019t even care last year, they didn\u2019t even <em>try<\/em> to get the black vote. [John F.] Kennedy tried to get the black vote. [Lyndon] Johnson <em>tried <\/em>to get it. [Harry] Truman tried to get it. Last time, they told you openly, we don\u2019t even <em>care<\/em> about the black vote.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered response. <\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> They never wooed the blacks. Every black has been put off the Cabinet. There wasn\u2019t a black that\u2019s been entertained in the president\u2019s office, not even the Senator that\u2019s of the same party, black Senator [Edward] Brooke, he can\u2019t even get a hearing, he can\u2019t even get an interview with president. The time has come for the destruction of the black man, unless he <em>frees<\/em> himself from the burden of the black book, the <em>curse <\/em>of the white man\u2019s religion, he must <em>free <\/em>himself.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Calms) Peace. (Pause) The slave system, the monetary system, the love of money which is the root of all evil. That\u2019s the mark of the beast, the dollar, the almighty dollar. You\u2019re gonna have to free yourself from that mark of the beast. (Pause) And is now four minutes of six. What will you do? I\u2019ve never <em>lied <\/em>to you. Your Bible is <em>full <\/em>of lies. Your Skygod makes no sense. If he was all perfect, why don\u2019t he come down and something? If he can heal every body in a minute, why doesn\u2019t he heal \u2018em <em>all<\/em>? Why\u2019d he make all these different races to fight and to kill, why does he bring some into the world born blind? (Pause) I don\u2019t bring anyone in born blind. Anyone that\u2019s had a stroke under my ministry, has been healed. And those of you that\u2019ve come with your crippling desisions\u2013 your diseases, all of you\u2019ve improved since you\u2019ve come to me. Though you were dead, now you live.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Affirms<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Calls out) I\u2019m a savior. <em>Not<\/em> the creator, don\u2019t confuse me, I\u2019m the <em>savior<\/em>. There are many saviors come up out of Zion, <em>I<\/em> am a <em>savior<\/em> come up out of Zion.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Calms) Come up from the earth. Why do you listen to this last, as I say, yesterday, a white woman? That shows you how much murder there is in the hearts of people today. You say, we couldn\u2019t give up what we know. What we know has brought us to this place. People telling us to think about heaven, the furniture of heaven and the temperature of hell. That\u2019s why we\u2019re so careless today, so <em>godless<\/em>, so heartless. That white woman on the Miami tower. Her heart was broken, lonely, alone, afraid. She\u2019s up there, wantin\u2019 somebody to care, and hundreds of people, they said, white, every race, saying, jump, jump, jump, you bitch. Jump. (Pause) They do it all over America. Read every news story. One in New York recently uh, was trying to get them [to] jump off of thirty-seventh floor. Jump. There\u2019s no heart, there\u2019s no love, everybody killing everybody. So what\u2019ve you got to lose. Does your churches have any love? Does your preacher talking about the Skygod? Will he give you a ride? Will he give you any buses? Has he given you any of those homes? Has he given you help? Does he go into the court and the jails and set you free? Does his\u2013 Does his Sky Jesus do you any good? (In full throat) <em>No<\/em>. I\u2019m the only one that\u2019ll help you. I\u2019m the only one that cares about you. I\u2019m the only one that loves you.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Calms) Peace. I know some of you\u2019ll never come back. But that will be your loss. The truth is hard. It\u2019s hard. And I\u2019m preaching my heart out, but look at that 93-year-old before you do, and see how healthy he looks. Look at what I do for my people. He was in jail, and they wanted to\u2013 stuck a several thousand dollars bail on him, and I paid it that minute, and I said, you won\u2019t go back, and he didn\u2019t. <em>That\u2019s <\/em>the kind of Father I am. What kind of Father have you been serving lately? Oh, you don\u2019t, you don\u2019t. you can\u2019t give me any answer, because you know I\u2019m telling you the truth. Peace. <\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s one minute of six. (Pause) One minute of six. If they would tell a white woman to jump, and then when the police try to rescue her, and the fire department rescue her, throw bricks at them, what\u2019re they gonna do to the black?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation:<\/b> Scattered applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Said, oh, well\u2013 it\u2019ll never happen. They just barely keep it from happening now. You were in slave chains, don\u2019t you remember, until Harriet Tubman throwed this down and used it for toilet paper. She said, I won\u2019t listen to anything that is as full of lies like this, that tells me to be subject to a master. Harriet Tubman threw it <em>down<\/em>. And we were lynched as late as 1942. And now it\u2019s sweeping back again. They\u2019d like to make slaves of us again. Just yesterday\u2019s paper \u2013 and it\u2019s a half a minute \u2013 yesterday\u2019s paper in Detroit, a black couple, showed them on all most of your papers, they had to leave their neighborhood because they had been burned, their children poisoned, their dog stabbed to death. America, 1973, Christian America, Jehovah\u2019s America, Bible America, 1973. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by following me. (Calls out) Why don\u2019t you deny yourself? Why don\u2019t you deny yourself? Why don\u2019t you say yes to this cause and no to that slave system? (Calms, then rises throughout) I thank you. I thank you. I thank you, because my words are spirit, and my words are life. This is a revolution that will heal you, this is a Father that will save you, this is one that will shepherd you through every storm. <\/p>\n<p><strong>End of tape<\/p>\n<p>Tape originally posted July 2014<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To return to the Tape Index, click here. To read the Annotated Tape Transcript, click here. To read the Tape Summary, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1, Pt. 2). 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