{"id":60697,"date":"2014-07-05T23:37:30","date_gmt":"2014-07-05T23:37:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60697"},"modified":"2023-07-11T17:01:57","modified_gmt":"2023-07-12T00:01:57","slug":"annotated-transcript-q968","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60697","title":{"rendered":"Annotated Transcript Q968"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Jones:<\/b> He said they\u2019ve even got people in the press<\/em>, they\u2019ve got people in every phase of the law<\/em> enforcement, they own all kinds of land<\/em>. We\u2019ve got to destroy them. We\u2019ve got the witnesses<\/em>, I tell you, we\u2019ve got the witnesses. He co\u2013 He collaborated with operators, three telephone operators, and Bella\u2013 Bell Telephone monitored our phones night <\/em>and day<\/em> for two months. We\u2019ve got the witnesses. It\u2019s written te\u2013 uh, testimony, and if somebody wants to sue me, then we\u2019ll s\u2013 put out a deposition, and we\u2019ll have the biggest court case you ever saw in your life, and I don\u2019t think Ma Bell wants that, so she\u2019ll probably let me have to say what I\u2019ve got to say. Because she would look pretty bad when three of her workers that\u2019re supposed to be paid to be putting long distance calls in are s\u2013 doing nothing more than listening to my Jewish attorney [Eugene Chaikin] that was healed of cancer here when he was dying, and listening to the assistant district attorney [Tim Stoen], who is a member of my church, and listening to my phone 24 hours a day. And [Lester] Kinsolving says we\u2019ve got to crush<\/em> them. (Pause) That\u2019s what he said the first<\/em> day. Said, they won\u2019t do anything. They\u2019re gentle people. But just the week before, I said, we\u2019d had enough. That\u2019s when the chains came, was just the week before. If he\u2019da come two weeks before, he mighta had a chance. But I said I\u2019d turned the last cheek of my butt (Matthew 5:39, \u201cBut I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.\u201d Also, Luke 6:29)<\/span>, and there\u2019s no more cheeks, I\u2019ve wore out of cheeks, I said the next one that bothers us, they better be prepared for a fight. So what happened. We marched outself down here to the Hearst [Randolph Hearst] press, the great big capitalist press, the rich man\u2019s press, and I mean poor (pause) little old people, us poor little old people, black and brown and poor white, we got our placards and we marched around Jericho\u2019s walls (Joshua 6)<\/span>, and I said I\u2019m gonna meditate that their papers will burn, and two hundred and forty thousand of their newspapers burned down right inside the building.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And we marched. I had \u2018em down there 98, I had them down there a hundred, I had them down there in their eighties and nineties, and we didn\u2019t stop marching til those editors come down, said when you gonna stop. We said we\u2019re gonna stop when you quit lying on us. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And so that night, they pulled out Kinsolving\u2019s article. If we\u2019da prayed and got on our knees and said pray for those that do spitefully use you, Kinsolving would\u2019ve destroyed <\/em>us (Matthew 5:44, \u201cI say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;\u201d See also, Luke 6:27, Luke 6:35)<\/span>, he would\u2019ve kicked <\/em>us in the ground, he\u2019da stomped<\/em> on us, we\u2013 our land would be gone now, we would all have been divided, we would\u2019ve fled, because he would\u2019ve stirred up more wrath, but we said we\u2019ve had enough<\/em>. And now<\/em> we\u2019ve said it even further. Take us on anymore, and you\u2019re gonna have more than just a march<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Calms, then builds) Now I did not mean to dis\u2013 express myself at such length, but I thought I should tell you why I believe what I believe, then you can be free to express why you believe what you believe. I accept that which works. All things that are true try the spirit, try a principle. (1 John 4:1, \u201cBeloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.\u201d) <\/span>If it works, then it\u2019s of God. If it\u2019s good, use it. But the principle of turning the other cheek, you can use that once, I\u2019m all for it (Matthew 5:39).<\/span> And I say, if you see a fight, avoid that fight at all cost. Soft answers will turn away wrath many times (Proverbs 15:1, \u201cA soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.\u201d). <\/span>And you should try every bit you can. You should<\/em> exactly go a few extra feet. I don\u2019t say you go two miles. Jesus said, when they ask you to go one mile, bearing the Roman slavemaster\u2019s pack, go two<\/em>. Well, my dear, we\u2019ve been carrying the slavemaster\u2019s pack for 2000 years. Now we say, it did not work. And we won\u2019t carry his pack, not even one teensy-weensy damned inch (Matthew 5:41, \u201cAnd whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. Martin [Luther King] said to me when he was on my pulpit, when I was the governor\u2019s commissioner and had to give it up, because nobody can be in this political system today and be honest. He said to me, I find my nonviolence much tested, but he said, if we would begin to fight, they\u2019d kill us all. And I said \u2013 and you know what I said \u2013 I said, Martin, they\u2019re going to kill you anyway. (Pause) I prophesied in fact the exact time of his going. I urged him to take certain advice. His wife [Coretta Scott King] seemed to know more about what he should do in those days, and even today<\/em>, she seems to know more. The Doctor [Ralph] Abernathy\u2019s had to resign, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference has been taken over by this ignoramus in Chicago, and I\u2019m with the Muslims in that, in fighting that PUSH and that Jesse Jackson, he\u2019s a honky version of bla\u2013 of black capitalism. Black capitalism\u2019s not gonna save us. No, no. Uh, they\u2019ll just change the crooks. We don\u2019t need more of this capitalism, we need some socialism<\/em>, we need some liberation, we need some equality<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. That\u2019s why I say there\u2019s so many points I could agree <\/em>with these people on, I\u2013 why do\u2013 why can\u2019t we get down and reason<\/em> together so we can unite <\/em>across this nation. Say, well, you\u2019re God<\/em>. Who would we look to? You could still look to me if I looked to somebody else. (Pause) That\u2019s what makes me God. I\u2019m willing to bend. I\u2019m principle<\/em>. I want to get a job done. I\u2019d carry somebody\u2019s coat to get this freedom movement on the road. But I can\u2019t find anybody that\u2019ll do the same with us. We had a man here on Thursday, a good doctor, head of a psychiatric association. I said a few questions to him and he treated me uncivil<\/em>. But I just turned around and ate a little bit of his crap. That\u2019s so (unintelligible word) I could get along with him. Said, I don\u2019t want to talk<\/em> to you, he said. \u2018Cause he was aiming at you<\/em>, he said I want to talk to your people. \u2018Cause he made a remark to one of our people, he said they\u2019re\u2013 these people will join my movement<\/em>. He didn\u2019t know a thing about it, he thought he could come in here and get these people to join his movement. He was so silly<\/em>. He was so silly, he didn\u2019t know how knit together we were. But anyway, what did I do after he was rude<\/em> to me\u2013 and I was his guest, I was giving him money<\/em> to help with the work that he was doing, and it\u2019s a good<\/em> work. Do you know what he\u2019s representing, they\u2019re cutting on black brains now in the University of California, he gave us proof of the he\u2013 the people\u2019s heads that\u2019re being drilled through, just to experiment on them. And they\u2019re mostly black, and all was poor. They\u2019re giving drugs, that the\u2013 they don\u2019t know a thing about, they may cause cancer, to alter human behavior. Hundreds<\/em> and hundreds. The mo\u2013 The publisher that belongs to our Temple in Los Angeles that owns the Herald<\/em>-Ex\u2013 uh, Dispatch<\/em> [Pat Alexander], she said that she has 1600 cases, legitimate documented, that she has 1600 cases where they have experimented on blacks in nursing<\/em> homes, taking them out against their will, they were on welfare. So he was doing a good job. What\u2019d I do, what\u2019d I do Wednesday night before your eyes? I just ate<\/em> his crud. I said, all right, sir. I backed off and ate it, because I would go the extra mile to have an alliance with anyone. He\u2019s got a big ego, but uh, still he\u2019s doing a right work. Most doctors, they won\u2019t do anything but work for that Cadillac. You\u2019re just a little piece of\u2013 you\u2019re nothing. They look at you, they don\u2019t hardly even look at you. I sent one of our sisters the other day to a doctor, because she doesn\u2019t have the full consciousness of faith in me, you\u2019ve gotta have a lot<\/em> of it to get me to work. I don\u2019t mean as a friend, I\u2019ll fight for you, I go to court, whether you like me, if you just call me an ol\u2019 Uncle Jim. Went to the court, had a great miracle today. Young woman, I got out and she confessed to her crimes, I told her to confess to her crimes, and (laughs) she committed more crimes \u2018n you want to talk about. And the police said, who sent you here? Jones? They let her out. <\/p>\n

Female voice in congregation:<\/b> Thank you, Father. Yeah.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And you certainly seen our sister over here, our Mexican sister who, her husband was trying everything under the sun<\/em> to do. He\u2019d beat her with a Bible, and bruised her with his Christianity, talked about blacks in those derogatory terms, so she took his Bible and set it afire<\/em>. (Pause) She standing over there, there she is. She was also, by the way, paralyzed with a stroke, and I healed her. She also had a cancer and she was healed. But anyway, this is\u2013 this is immaterial to the sat\u2013 situation. She believes<\/em> in me with a childlike faith, and I want to get a message across tonight. I usually do more healings, but I want to get a message <\/em>across. We\u2019ll get to the healings. You\u2019ve got to get an understanding to get the healing. I told this woman several phrases that she must say in the courtroom. He was going to accuse her of being insane<\/em>, trying to burn down his house, even his children. He was a liar<\/em>. He threatened us, he threatened her attorney, an attorney friend that works with our legal attorneys that\u2019re in the church, he was going to expose <\/em>us. (Pause) And I said, you say these words, and he won\u2019t get a thing said. And she said them. She went in there with her mind to say just exactly what I told her to do. She believes<\/em> in me. And he got up on the court stand without his attorney, and got up and says I\u2019ll give you two hundred dollars. His attorney jumped up, said what are you talking about? You\u2019re not supposed to give her\u2013 You\u2019ve only got three hundred and fifty. He says I\u2019ll give you two hundred dollars. After he got through <\/em>and the court was over, they said he was a-biting at himself, because he didn\u2019t know why he had done it. I<\/em> know why he\u2019d done, \u2018cause I said <\/em>he\u2019d do it.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I mean he did not even get up with his attorney\u2019s advice, he got up against <\/em>his attorney\u2019s advice, and kept on talkin\u2019, and he couldn\u2019t stop, said I\u2019ll give her two hundred, I\u2019ll give her two hundred, because she said the words that triggered him to say I\u2019ll give her two hundred, I\u2019ll give her two hundred. (Voice calms) But I sent a sister to a doctor who did not have so much faith in me, and she\u2019d been to three<\/em>. I said, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s enough. Been going to these outpatient clinics. She said, I\u2019d like <\/em>to believe, Father, but this\u2013 they say you\u2019re God, I can\u2019t understand that. I said, well, do you believe I have power to heal. She said, well, when I get healed. I said, you gotta have faith before you get <\/em>healed. But I sent her, and they found a malignancy, fortunately that we can deal with. They were able to isolate it, and do some uh, radium therapy\u2013 therapy. Three <\/em>doctors missed it. (Pause) Today most doctors are concerned about making a buck. Most doctors are just like lawyers, the greatest parasites in America. And I say it front of the one that I healed of cancer, the greatest parasites in America are lawyers. They live off of other people, they cause squabbles and if they\u2013 if there was a society, a just society, like the ancient tribal collective, the Indian society, a socialist society, you wouldn\u2019t need<\/em> any lawyers, because the people could settle their own affairs. So lawyers are parasites. The like to make a buck, except for the few that\u2019ve got converted. (Pause) <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Delayed, scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> My m\u2013 I may be talking, baby, but I don\u2019t stop listening. (Pause) I had a revelation on something. I know<\/em> those who are here and I know that aren\u2019t here.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Scattered murmurs of assent<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Anyhow, I wanted to say to you, that the principle I\u2019m trying to get across to your mind is to use<\/em> that which will work for you<\/em>. And if you can find anything that will work better, then go to it. You say you\u2019re going to believe in your Bible. How you gonna believe in your Bible, when it\u2019s completely full<\/em> of confusion? I could say other<\/em> words, but it might embarrass you. But confusion certainly is applicable. It is full <\/em>of confusion. You don\u2019t know where Jesus was born, you don\u2019t know what happened to him on the cross, you don\u2019t know what he took when he died, you don\u2019t know where\u2013 how long he was in Egypt if\u2013 or if he ever went to Egypt. You don\u2019t know where he did his miracles, his miracles change, every story in Matthew, Mark, Luke, they don\u2019t say one<\/em> story the same. (Pause) Not one <\/em>story is the same. Don\u2019t tell me\u2013 Don\u2019t shake your head at me, honey. You better read <\/em>that Bible. You better read<\/em> it before you start shaking your head. (Clears throat) (Pause) We\u2019re here because we have found something that works. We are here because we have found a Father that will go into the courts and will fight for us, not one of us have ever gone to jail that I have not had out in a matter of minutes. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Delayed applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> My sister last week when she was losing her home over there, Sister Younger, she didn\u2019t have to go to the bank, she didn\u2019t have to plead, she didn\u2019t have to go to real estate and get on her knees, said how much your back payments, I think I told her <\/em>what they were, I think I told you the exact amount what it was, four hundred dollars, and I paid it. I didn\u2019t make it come out of the sky, I didn\u2019t tell her to go to Jesus, I paid <\/em>it, and saved her house.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises throughout) When Sister Jackson was there on Wednesday night with her son being held in a jail like a bond<\/em> slave \u2013 they still do that to blacks in some jails, gonna hold him a month unless they got a hundred dollars, debtor\u2019s pay \u2013 I got that money that moment. When Sister Robinson had her money stolen by religious relatives, all of her month\u2019s wages gone this last week, I\u2019m talkin\u2019 \u2018bout one week, I saved it. When Sister Tyrone Johnson had her (unintelligible word) was being taken away from her this week, I got the money and got the court case solved. I\u2019m talkin\u2019 about one week. If you can find anybody that will do more<\/em> for you, you go to them, and let me know, because I\u2019m tired of working<\/em>. I\u2019ll join you.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019m saying that for those that are guests, that you can understand why we believe what we believe. You gay\u2013 you say you\u2019re Christians. How many\u2019ve died in your <\/em>church lately. How many caskets have run through your temple? We\u2019ve never had one in any of our Temples. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We\u2019re not saying that that\u2019s not important. If somebody dies tomorrow, that won\u2019t change this business. We\u2019re not here because we can do something about stopping people from dying literally. We\u2019re stopping people from dying mentally<\/em>. That\u2019s why we\u2019re here.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Clears throat) (Conversational) How many people have passed growths or tumors or cancers in this assembly? (Pause) How many have been healed, like Sister Cunningham (stumbles over words) up here of crippling paralysis? How many, paralyzed or strokes, yes. Strokes. How many have been healed of other incurable diseases? <\/p>\n

Voice in congregation:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now I\u2019m saying to you\u2013 What is it? <\/p>\n

Voice in congregation:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Glaucoma, yes. You ever know anybody that heal anybody of glaucoma? It\u2019s an incurable eye disease. We have a hundred or so in our record that we know of, we don\u2019t try to keep records. But a hundred that are healed. One Muslim brother in Los Angeles, completely gone, his glaucoma completely gone. I just came by, and blood came from my hand and I touched him, and his eyes were healed instantly, as were eighty others that day, healed of one form of blindness. On the TV\u2019s, I think we had\u2013 or last Sunday, wasn\u2019t it? Some sister, blind, clear in the back of the building. She was in her eighties. Couldn\u2019t see in front of her nose. She counted every finger and told everything I had, and went away, and she was also crippled, she\u2019d been crippled with a paralytic stroke, and that was cured, there wasn\u2019t a trace left of it.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We have less die. And we sure have less in jail, being that we don\u2019t have one of our mem\u2013 members in jail. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Because if they come \u2013 and we\u2019ve been in it, baby, you\u2019ve heard people talk about what they\u2019ll do \u2013 but the cops came once when I raised this woman over here. She said\u2013 She\u2013 she needs to be raised from her sleep now (laughs), she\u2019s sleeping. (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s all right, I want her to sleep, she\u2019s a good soul. Pinkey [likely Hansberry]. But she was dead. She had a stroke, and she was dead<\/em>. Stand up, Sister Pinkey, so they can see you, an idol of truth<\/em>, a representative of truth. They took her\u2013 I prophesied that day, didn\u2019t I, I said, don\u2019t go out in the streets.<\/p>\n

Male voice in congregation:<\/b> Right, yes he did.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I said there\u2019ll be trouble in the streets. I said, don\u2019t go out, they\u2019ll have trouble in the streets, there\u2019ll be a riot in the streets, don\u2019t go out. And I said, don\u2019t get an ambulance, no matter what I heal. But all the registered nurses, they forgot it. When I healed her and brought her back, and she was stiff on her side, and everyone can testify, she was laying out on the bench, couldn\u2019t get any vital signs, I worked with her for ten minutes, and then I got her healed, but they checked \u2013 like I tell everyone, go to a doctor \u2013 they forgot that this day I said, don\u2019t go. \u2018Cause I don\u2019t believe, if they\u2013 if your healing won\u2019t hold up by science, not worth anything. I say, go and have it checked. But that <\/em>day, I said, don\u2019t get an ambulance. Well, they got an ambulance. (Pause) And I never saw such a mean munch [bunch] in my life. That fire department in Los Angeles was the meanest, most racist bunch I have ever seen (clears throat). It was right after that, I said I\u2019m going to elect a black mayor, and we got a black mayor [Tom Bradley] down there.<\/p>\n

Male voice in congregation:<\/b> Yes sir. Yes, we do.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Anyway, I said, don\u2019t go, but they took her. And I mean they took her and kicked her, they called her nigger and everything else. Some of my people run out to protect<\/em> her, and I said, oh well, if my people are out there, I\u2019m going out there, and I mean, when we got out there, they\u2019d called the police, the helicopters were over us, machine guns set on us, they were going out with bully clubs [billy clubs], they struck down one of my adopted sons [Jim Jones Jr.], one of my sons, they struck him down, they were hitting women, they were arresting my people right and left. And I knew then, I didn\u2019t dare fight. I just went through, I said you are wrong, you are wrong, you are wrong. I never touched a soul, \u2018cause I knew they were w\u2013 just waiting for me. I said, you are wrong, I told my people to keep quiet, because in that <\/em>particular moment, they wanted an excuse to murder every one of us. Anyway, they obeyed, but (stumbles over words) beforehand, one of the brothers who has a government post who\u2019s the director of the large governmental commission, he happened to hit a policeman who was calling bad names and doing terrible<\/em> things, broke his nose. Broke the (unintelligible word) policeman\u2019s nose clear over here on his side of his face. Blood was flowing down the policeman\u2019s face, and he wanted to kill somebody so bad, he didn\u2019t know what to do. (clears throat) They took him to jail, they said, we\u2019re going to keep him there. We\u2019ll teach you people a lesson. They charged him with felony assault with a deadly weapon, one of my\u2013 one of my brothers had a gun<\/em>. I\u2019ve told him not to have guns on them (clears throat), but he had a gun<\/em>. And I had a\u2013 The man said, ah, you\u2019ve got a gun<\/em>. And then in the next second, the gun was gone.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> These are documented facts. If you don\u2019t believe this, you can go check the records in the police department and see, they\u2019re still <\/em>looking for that gun. Here was a holster, here was the bullets, but the gun was gone. They grabbed him, but the moment they grabbed him, my spirit grabbed that gun.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, they took him down there, and they arrested my\u2013 my good wife [Marceline Jones] who couldn\u2019t even join the Muslims, though she\u2019s mixed too in her racial background, but she\u2019s got a light skin and light hair, she can\u2019t join the Muslims. But she went down there, she got a hold one of those policemen, they said you can\u2019t touch me, and she touched him anyway. (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And they took her away from my black son, and took her away in chains. Took away Brother Jackson, another government worker. Never been arrested before. Brother Brown, never been arrested before. My wife, in all of her years, never been arrested before, and the took her to jail, and I went down to get them, and the moment I got there, they arrested me.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They put me\u2013 they put me in handcuffs and sent me back there and says, ah, you\u2013 you\u2013 we\u2019ll see what we can do with you<\/em> people. Put me in the jail, and they put the handcuffs on me, and then put the ch\u2013 they put a thing on my leg<\/em> and chained me to the bar<\/em>. I\u2013 they musta believed I was a little bit God\u2013<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And said, now what\u2019re you gonna do about that? I said, I don\u2019t know what I\u2019m gonna\u2013 what you\u2019re<\/em> gonna do about it, but I\u2019m gonna go to sleep. (Pause) I lay down, I had\u2013 they fixed it all up too, they had blood on the cell, you know, they\u2019d just beaten some poor person. They thought they\u2019d scare me with that blood. I laid right down in the middle of it. Put my arm under my head. I got me about five seconds of sleep<\/em>, I guess. I guess it wasn\u2019t much longer than that, because when they\u2013 Back comes somebody and says, I heard him say this, they say we got some kind of fool in here? We got some kind of fool in here. Was this one\u2013 This one officer said, I\u2019d read you of your rights. I said I know my rights. He said, you can get out uh, if you\u2019ve never been arrested, on your own recognizance. I said, oh no. I said, black and Indian people never get out on their own. They always have to bail. I said, even though I\u2019ve got uh, the means to get out and the wherewithal, and I have a name, and I\u2019ve been a government leader, I\u2013 I\u2019m not coming <\/em>out. I said, I\u2019m waitin\u2019 on my trial. What said, you damn fool. That will be six weeks<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Says we\u2019ll have to keep you six weeks. I said, that\u2019s your<\/em> problem. I\u2019m going to sleep. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter, then applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And that\u2019s almost exactly what I said. Well, it wasn\u2019t long, he brought back somebody else, and he said, now\u2013 he said, you mean you\u2019re staying in here? He said, we\u2019ve had many people who wanted to get out<\/em>, but we\u2019ve never had anybody wanted to stay in<\/em>. I said, I\u2019m staying in until every one of my people are free. I said, I\u2019m gonna be\u2013 not let go on my recognizance, I\u2019m not going to be bailed out of here, I\u2019m staying here, you\u2019ve not\u2013 you\u2019ve arrested me wrongly, and I\u2019m gonna stay <\/em>here until I have a trial before the people. And I said if that cost Los Angeles a million dollars, I don\u2019t care, because I said, it\u2019ll be a long, long trial. (Short laugh)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Delayed applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now I want you to know they had my \u2013 Brother Jackson, he\u2019s standing back there, and Brother Brown \u2013 they had them on assault<\/em> and battery, and with a deadly<\/em> weapon, and uh, I don\u2019t know what all they had \u2018em, bu\u2013 inciting a riot, everything in the world, we\u2013 we practically done it, and bre\u2013 breaking a policeman nose, and no one intended to, but he got in front of that door when I wanted my sister out of that ambulance, and by the way, the other miracle, they had her locked up in the ambulance, and then after the fight was over, they looked in the ambulance with the door shut, and she was gone<\/em>. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) You never saw policemen so red-faced in all your life, \u2018cause there wasn\u2019t a black one amongst them, they were all white. They were all white in that police force. But they were red-faced. Here they had a man, and were supposed to have a gun, the gun was gone. They had a woman, they didn\u2019t even know what they were fightin\u2019 over because I had her, she was gone. (Pause) The officer said, will you tell me one thing? Where did that old woman go? <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, I said to him, I said, that old woman is younger than she looks, she\u2019s a fast runner.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) I just played with them, and so a little bit later, back<\/em> comes the head<\/em> of the police. He said, now Reverend, you know, we\u2019re had a mistake here. (Short laugh) I said, yes, you have. (Pause) I said, I want us all these charges dropped. Oh, he said, couldn\u2019t do that. (Pause) I said that\u2013 I want \u2018em all dropped. (Pause) And what happened? <\/p>\n

Scattered:<\/b> They were all dropped.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They all got dropped, and they let us all go, and my name\u2019s not even on the record. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They didn\u2019t even arrest me. They didn\u2019t even get my fingerprints<\/em>. They put me in chains, they were so scared of me, they put me in chains before they got my fingerprints<\/em>. Well, it\u2019s just to show you that we stick by each other. Now if you know a group that\u2019ll do more\u2013 But you see, if you got a group that\u2019s buying Cadillacs for its preacher, buying Rolls\u2013 Rolls Royces for its preacher, they won\u2019t have as much money in the legal<\/em> fund. But tonight, if you need a lawyer, there\u2019ll be two or three. We got a black sister and uh, yeah, there\u2019s a Jewish brother here that\u2019s a lawyer, and our assistant D.A. that\u2019ll be downstairs to talk to you about your needs<\/em>. Now don\u2019t bring this up about Aunt Jane. If Aunt Jane belongs in the Baptist Church, and givin\u2019 some jackleg preacher her money, don\u2019t bother us with Aunt Jane.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> A whole lotta folk comin\u2019 in here, you\u2013 I see you in here tonight, a few of you. You\u2019ve got\u2013 your arthritis has got more than you can bear, you saw me in January, and then you went back to your Baptist Church after I touched you a little bit, now your arthritis has got back \u2013 naturally, sittin\u2019 under the mess you\u2019re sittin\u2019 under \u2013 so now you\u2019ve come wandering back in here and you want to get a healing <\/em>so you can go back and sing in the choir for another six months.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> The assistant mayor [likely Deputy Mayor Joe Johnson of San Francisco] looked out over the meeting today, and my, didn\u2019t he say things. He said socialism, and compared (sort laugh)\u2013 compared this collective to socialism in the\u2013 in the purest Soviet sense, and he talked about fascism, and he sang a song to Jim Jones. The assistant mayor\u2013 The assistant mayor looked out and he says, is that Wesley Johnson? He said, he\u2019s one of the biggest pillars in Third Baptist Church. I said, you\u2019ve not been around there lately,\u2019 cause he\u2019s been a pillar here long as I can remember. (Laughs)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> He been debatin\u2019 about joinin\u2019, he said, well, if he<\/em> can join, then I <\/em>can join. (Laughs) Oh, these people, they kill me. Well, so Wesley, you may be responsible for the mayor jo\u2013 uh, joining the church. Anyhow, then, don\u2019t do like some do and sink\u2013 you think you\u2019re gonna get our healings anymore. We start a new chapter. You drop in here once a month? We\u2019ll give you once a month treatment. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I\u2019m not talkin\u2019 about my people that have to work, like sister over here that works in a home night and day and weeks and weeks. I\u2019m not talkin\u2019 about people of my own membership. I\u2019m talkin\u2019 about you that slip around with those jacklegs that\u2019ve never built you a children\u2019s home, that\u2019ve never once built one senior citizen home, and we\u2019ve got four beautiful ones and three blo\u2013 lovely sanatoriums, and 40 acres of the primest land with a children\u2019s home on it, and all other kinda land, and a whole apartment complex. We own half of Redwood Valley city. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Excited tone) Now I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m telling you. (Pause) We take care of our people, and you been (stumbles over words) over here from Bethel. You\u2019re here from Bethel to get healed tonight. You come over into Bethel, and Bethel hadn\u2019t done anything but pay for its church, and hasn\u2019t got it paid for, and hasn\u2019t paid for the preacher\u2019s car, because they\u2019re always running into one anniversary after another. We never have any preacher\u2019s anniversaries here. We don\u2019t have any preacher\u2019s birthdays here. We don\u2019t have any pastor\u2019s wives\u2019 tea here. We\u2019ve got liberation meetings here, every day for everybody.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now if you want to spend your money on jacklegs, while we\u2019re getting justice, when we put money to get Sister [Angela] Davis free, two thousand dollars, and I prophesied the hour<\/em> she\u2019d be released, and I stood up here when they wouldn\u2019t open that door, right down here at this people\u2019s mess, this peoples cathedral, this Catholic church that was built, and tore all the housing out for poor people, I stood up on a car<\/em>. I know what I did. They wouldn\u2019t let us inside that church, and I stood up on a car, and I said we\u2019re gonna get the money from our people, we came up with two thousand dollars to get Angela free<\/em>, and I said the hour<\/em> that she\u2019d be free. Now if you think you\u2019re gonna come in here when we got Angela free, it was Billy Smith, one of his\u2013 his mother\u2019s in our Los Angeles church, I said the day <\/em>I\u2019d get him free, when the army\u2019d falsely charged him, and I put my people in the courtroom, and I put my people in everyone\u2019s courtroom that is associated with this Temple, and if you <\/em>think you\u2019re gonna come in here and get me to heal you, so you can go back to some jackleg, so he can have a Lincoln or a Continental or a Cadillac or a Rolls Royce, you got another guess comin\u2019, \u2018cause I\u2019m not gonna heal you.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Calms) It\u2019s not fair. (Pause) This sister here\u2013I\u2019ve got too many sisters like this, Sister\u2013 precious Sister Taylor down here. This week she spit up a cancer when I wasn\u2019t even present, a growth, they got it\u2013 Have you got that thing in a\u2013 You got that thing in a bottle somewhere? She spit it up, just trusted me when she was choking. That\u2019s all right. It\u2019s good you got the message. (Pause) Good you got the message. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Delayed applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Some folks slipped out of the balcony and out of the lower floor, they found out now I\u2019m not going to heal anybody unless they join. (Laughs) That\u2019s right. You\u2019ve come in vain. If you don\u2019t want to identify with us\u2013 After all, what you got going? Has the mayor\u2013 uh, assistant mayor visited you lately? (Pause) I even got through to his <\/em>son, and healed his<\/em> son when he was supposed to be crippled for life. You heard him testify for it tonight. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Now, you know\u2013 a lot of you folk\u2013 lot of you folk are afraid to come over here, \u2018cause you\u2019re afraid we are just not uh, you know, we\u2019re not one of those uh, establishment niggers. (Pause) You don\u2019t like to come over here, because I\u2019m a field <\/em>nigger.<\/a> You want to get around one of these house niggers. There all kinds of house niggers. They\u2019re everywhere. House nigger says Yessuh, Nosuh whatever the whi\u2013 they look to see what the white man wants, and they say, Yessuh, Yessuh. And you been hangin\u2019 on to some of those house nigger churches\u2013 Oh, that\u2019s\u2013 Yeah, look at me, brother, that\u2019s right, I\u2019m layin\u2019 it straight. (Clears throat)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Voice builds throughout) You been hangin\u2019 on those house nigger churches, hangin\u2019 on to Baptist churches, and we looked in Union of South Africa, this man we had here last night was referring to Union of South Africa, this doctor and all the things they\u2019re doing here. He said, that was started there in Union of South Africa, and the Baptists started it, the Calvinists started it. In the Union of South Africa today \u2013 I\u2019m preachin\u2019 a little long, but you should get some of this \u2013 the Baptist whites came in there, and now the blacks cannot leave their home at six o\u2019clock at night. Wives cannot even live with their husbands. Wives have to work out for fifteen, twenty cents a day. Forty times more pay goes to a white man than a black in Africa, and it was once his country. Union of South Africa. And the reason they lost it is because they let a bunches of Baptists, Calvinists<\/em>, come in and teach them their religion, and they took the country away from them, and now they have to wear tattoo<\/em> marks or passes<\/em>, and the wife has to be all year separated from her children, because she cannot live a mile away from where she works. And all blacks have to live out in little old tin shanties and dirt huts outside the city. They can\u2019t ride the buses. They cannot go to the theaters. They cannot walk on the streets, they have to walk down, on the\u2013 off the street and left the whites pass. All because they let their black religions go. The worship of the Great Spirit, they let their black true <\/em>religion go, their great black culture go, and they let the white man\u2019s religion come in, and some of you act (unintelligible word), Father, I don\u2019t want to leave my Baptist church. Whose Baptist church? It was your slavemaster\u2019s <\/em>Baptist church, that\u2019s who it was. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No black man ever invented the Baptist church. No black woman started the Baptist church. I\u2019m<\/em> not against Baptists, if they did anything. But like Martin Luther King said to me, he said, you gotta be a Baptist, Jim, when he was on my pulpit. He said it\u2019s the only way my people will listen. Well, he\u2019s dead. And they didn\u2019t listen. And his own wife has built a monument, and Dr. Abernathy has to fall and cry on his grave, because there\u2019s no money to run the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. It\u2019s (deliberate) dead<\/em>. Martin\u2019s works are dead<\/em>. And he was a gentle man. Oh, he didn\u2019t believe in the Bible, no more than I did. He told me he didn\u2019t. But he said, you\u2019ve got <\/em>to be a Baptist because my people won\u2019t listen<\/em> unless you\u2019re a Baptist. And he\u2019s\u2013 he was quite true, with a lot of \u2018em. But the mistake is, they didn\u2019t even listen with Martin being a Baptist. They didn\u2019t hear <\/em>what he was doing. And America\u2019s no closer to integration \u2013 in fact, it\u2019s farther from it \u2013 no closer to unification. We\u2019re not seeking integration, we want unification. We want equal <\/em>rights, same <\/em>rights. We\u2019re not seeking to marry somebody\u2019s daughter, we don\u2019t find anybody\u2019s daughter that looks any better than these beautiful black, beautiful ebony, beautiful bown\u2013 brown faces. We don\u2019t see anything this light that is appealing to us that we\u2019re inclined to go around and marry, so you don\u2019t have to worry about it. Oh well, somebody say, would you want one to marry your daughter? And we been lookin\u2019 at some of those honkies and we say, no. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (pause) (Quiet) Well, that\u2019s good. The report\u2019s back. Uh, Sis\u2013 Sister has been completely healed, she\u2019s all right now, but (unintelligible)<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Peace. Sister from Sacramento called in, and the attorney came up, you know, when he came up about it, and they thought she was dying, and now the report, she\u2019s completely healed after they did what I told them to do, here on the note, they have uh, found\u2013 they had it all down almost, but they want to check it out, and now she is completely healed. So we\u2019re grateful for that.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So Martin passed, and he was the last chapter of Jesus\u2019 turning the other cheek (Matthew 5:39). <\/span>(Pause) Martin\u2019s passing \u2013 and I want to say this one more time, I\u2019ve only mentioned it once in this assembly this week \u2013 I want to remind you that the night before Martin died, Mrs. King said that even if they kill Martin, we shall remain non-violent. (Pause) I wish Mrs. King had never said that., because he was killed by a conspiracy. Oh, I know, we won\u2019t hear about it, but now we\u2019re finding a little Watergate, as even the mayor\u2013 the assistant mayor said tonight, Watergate\u2019s just a cover. It\u2019s just a circus. He said a very beautiful point. He said it\u2019s like trying someone for a traffic violation when they been guilt of rape and murder. But if you\u2019ve been reading some of the Watergate hearings, the name [E. Howard] Hunt was the same name that showed up in the assassination of [Pres. John] Kennedy. [Jim] Garrison tried to tell you about him in Louisiana, the district attorney there, and now he <\/em>has been charged with all kinds of charges by the Attorney General. He was done by [John] Mitchell. Everyone that\u2019s spoken out and tried to show you these murders against Martin and all of these brothers, against Senator [Robert] Kennedy, against President Kennedy, but now Hunt <\/em>was a name that Garrison said was involved in that<\/em> murder. And you\u2019re gonna find out a whole lot of things as days go on. (Voice starts to climb) But when Martin was killed, the whole Memphis police went the other way. And then they try to tell us that one nut<\/em> [James Earl Ray] did it. Now how does one nut cause the whole police department to go the wrong way for a wrong emergency. They got a wrong emergency. On every <\/em>police radio, wrong signal came, and they went the wrong way. Now you tell me one n\u2013 white nut did that? No, a whole lot of crooked<\/em> nuts did that. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Mrs. King made a mistake. She shoulda said, if Martin ever goes down, we will all fight to the last man and woman.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (pause) (Calm) This is the growth that came up out of the sister. Now look there\u2013 there in the bottom of the thing, in the bottom of the thing, it\u2019s uh\u2013 here, the\u2013 the roots of it? Now it\u2018s kind of split up. This is the root, the\u2013 the growth that came out of the sister down there in (unintelligible word) that was healed, we were speaking of just earlier. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> She\u2013 she was choking<\/em>, she was choking<\/em> and spit that up, by trust even when I wasn\u2019t even present, and she\u2019s had so many things, uh, she said she\u2019d have to write a Bible of her own just to tell the miracles that\u2019ve happened to her in her eighty years, in past<\/em> eighty years. And she\u2019s been a preacher<\/em>. She was a preacher<\/em>. Some of you people worry about giving up your church. She was a well-known evangelist, quite capable, but she saw all of it was empty holes, every one of them had empty cisterns and their bags were full of hot air, and she got out. Even though she was in her eighties and could\u2019ve retired, celebrated as a preacher<\/em>, she left<\/em> the church because she knew the church had a been a lie. She said I had to live eighty<\/em> years to find an honest leader.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> She\u2019s<\/em> not the only preacher. How many preachers left here? Pastor way back here, Reverend Garrison, Reverend Williams. He was an invalid<\/em>. Couldn\u2019t walk. Heart destroyed. Now he can run, he can lift up a piano, this man has been doing it for three years since I healed him. These are Baptist <\/em>pastors. Brother Ed was someplace, a Church of God pastors. Sitting\u2013 there he is back there. Brought his whole church <\/em>in here. Reverend [Guy] Young over here, Presbyterian pastor, with all the degrees you want, this white brother, but he\u2019s a black man at heart. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> How many other ministers do we have here? How many other ex-preachers do we have here? Stand up. There, there. All these preachers, extra\u2013 ex-preachers. Now if you have any\u2013 he was a preacher and a half, he came here, harmonica player, I want to hear him play after a bit. (Pause) They left their church in their golden years, some of them. And you say, I don\u2019t (unintelligible) I come over with the Jones, I don\u2019t know how long they\u2019re gonna last. Honey, we\u2019re gonna outlast your Baptist so mong\u2013 so long, so long.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Very <\/em>well. It\u2019s a long night, and we can always save other things for other days. But it\u2019s wonderful to know the truth. You go in the Baptist church, you pay that man his anniversaries, you pay for his Cadillac? Ask him to heal you. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You go to the Methodist church? You put your money in the Methodist church to buy nothing that will serve the people? You been paying those churches that don\u2019t have any ground? We\u2019ve got hundreds of acres. (Pause) It\u2019s costly for us to pay for these things every month. Send hundreds of food items to Wounded Knee, hundreds of dollars, because these Indians are starving<\/em>. (Pause) We\u2019re sending food into Watts, sending money into Watts for youth that are in trouble that could not survive if it was not for us. We reach to Harlem, and we reach to Africa. We saved hundreds<\/em> of starving Biafran children. We got a mission chief <\/em>who was healed of cancer. And we got two chiefs. Sister Nystom [phonetic], she had cancer, they\u2019d had taken off of\u2013 both of her limbs, she was eaten up with it, and she\u2019s now healed<\/em>. Cancer was all through her, she\u2019s walking around on ampu\u2013 on artificial legs, but the cancer was stopped, preaching the gospel of Jim Jones in Africa.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> You don\u2019t have to slip out. (Pause) Tell \u2018em they don\u2019t have to slip out, (stumbles over words)\u2013 she\u2019da been any lower, she mighta got healed of her arthritis.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) (Light tone) People kill me. It\u2013 It\u2019s\u2013 It\u2019s a circus to watch folk up here, I\u2019m tellin\u2019 you. (Pause) Some of \u2018em wa\u2013 they come in here and they\u2019re\u2013 they look around and see if there\u2019s anybody a member of their church.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They\u2019re lookin\u2019 all around to see\u2013 And if they\u2013 I\u2019ve seen them, they look around and, oh, they\u2019ll spot\u2013 (unintelligible exclamation) she\u2019s over here, I\u2019m gonna have to get out of here, she\u2019ll tell I\u2019m<\/em> here. People are funny<\/em>. If it wasn\u2019t such a tragedy that they\u2019re doing, it would be funny, but it\u2019s a tragedy. The people are worried more about what people think<\/em> of them, than what they think of themselves.<\/p>\n

Archie Ijames:<\/b> That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> (Quiet, but intense) So you haven\u2019t got anything to lose but your chains. (Pause) The religion you have has been given to you by the white man. It\u2019s time you find something that\u2019ll work for you. And we\u2019ve got something that\u2019ll work for us. And if you find something that\u2019ll work any better, you bring them to us, and we\u2019ll go to them. You show us anyone <\/em>that can do what we do, you show anyone that fights, saves homes, goes into the courts, snatches people right from the courts when they\u2019re ready to be sentenced, you show me one<\/em>, and we will unite with them, and we will join them. And I will carry their coat. \u2018Cause we didn\u2019t want to build a church. All we wanted to do was to build land, to build sanatoriums, to give our people jobs, to give them food, but we came here, even to one of the men that I rather respect, came to Cecil Williams, we said, can we use your building on off-times, not even on Sundays. My brothers back here, Brother Garrison, Brother Williams, leading businessmen here, went to him. He said\u2013 he was setting there, and they said a young woman with her dress clear up to her hips setting there, flitting around with him on the knee\u2013 <\/p>\n

Ijames:<\/b> That\u2019s right. <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> They said it was a uh\u2013 a spectacle that they didn\u2019t particularly think was enhancing to liberation, and they said<\/em> to him, we\u2019ll give all the money to black causes that we would pay for a building. He said no, I\u2019m doing my thing. You go do your thing.<\/p>\n

Ijames:<\/b> That\u2019s right, Jim. <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Well, I don\u2019t look it as doing a thing. I think this problem of black people being operated on, and black children\u2013 now it\u2019s coming out all over the nation, Carolina now has produced eighty-some, sterilized, little black girls against their will, taken by the establishment and operated against their own volition. And blacks given syphilis, allowed to have syphilis, untreated, just to see how it will cause their brains to rot and their bodies to die. Or Mexican mothers given cancer<\/em>-causing carcinogenic drugs that never would stop pregnancy, just to see what it would do to their body, and the things this good psychiatrist told us is incredible, the things he told us that\u2019re being done right now to human beings, on Wednesday night. Now I think it\u2019s high time that we quit <\/em>doing our thing and got ourselves together, and I still hold it out, if Cecil Wim\u2013 Williams will build a church that will serve the people and will not buy Cadillacs and diamond rings for the leaders, I will unite with him. I will unite with any group that will have us. I will be glad to be second-in-command to anyone that will be a better father than I am, but I\u2019m an awfully good father, and I demand that whoever I follow has to be as good as father as I am.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Hands clasped. With that, I\u2019m going to ask tonight, we have to take our offering, we offer to our workers have reported is very low. We\u2019re going on a vacation, uh, equal <\/em>vacation. From each according to his ability to each according to his need. There\u2019s someone here that\u2019s a pensioner than doesn\u2019t have a dime, they\u2019ll be on that vacation trip. And many of our children that were orphans that are in our homes, that\u2019ve been taken in, will be given the trip that starts on April third\u2013 August third, and all will have the same<\/em> food, the same pleasures. That\u2019s what I mean, too. Don\u2019t bring any candies. If you bring any candies, if you don\u2019t let the group, the communal group do it, if you bring candy, you better have candy for everybody. Don\u2019t bring any ice cream money, because when we take a trip, everybody eats ice cream or nobody eats ice cream. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Responds<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s what we need, is a spirit of absolute sharing. Not some special privilege for the leader to ride in a Cadillac or a Rolls Royce and have finer clothes, but all should have the same<\/em>. Not only equal, but the same<\/em>. Did you hear what I said?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Responds<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That principle\u2019s emanated here, and it\u2019s going to continue. The spirit of that great peace mission is going to continue in the earth. And we\u2019re taking over 500 people on the trip, but we\u2019ve got to maintain the house while we\u2019re gone. (Pause) So I\u2019m going to ask tonight, if there\u2019s anyone that want to give, like sis\u2013 one sister gave an offering last night, he [she] was healed immediately. Another brother gave an offering that uh, was their conscience, their amount of conscience stood on their feet when the mo\u2013 money was mentioned, and was healed of a heart attack. Having pain across his chest, gone right then. Another was healed of prostate growth. How many times does it take to go to the bathroom? (Pause) Get sembled in here. I\u2019ve got people 98, and\u2013 I\u2019ve got people 98 years of age that don\u2019t move in a service. Got one, a hundred and one, that never moves. And I\u2019ve seen some of you move five times now. (Pause) Looks to me like if an\u2013 a hundred and one year old can hold their kidneys, some of you twenty-year-olds ought to manage. (Clears throat) And tore down racist signs. I refuse [reserve] the right to serve who I please. She tore them down with her crutches while she was a cripple. She\u2019ll be here Sunday morning, she always sets right here. White\u2013 You think I\u2019m going to join any place that she can\u2019t go? She\u2019s fought\u2013 She\u2019s gone in and fought in the jails<\/em>. She\u2019s been arrested more time [times] than you\u2019ve got years. She\u2019s in her nineties now. No, I\u2019ll go any place she can go, because she\u2019s black in heart. She\u2019s Irish as Irish can be. She speaks Irish just as keen as an Irishman speaks it, but she\u2019s got a black heart. You\u2019ve got to judge people by their actions<\/em>, not how they look on the outside. <\/p>\n

Male voice in congregation:<\/b> Amen.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> No. How much you own? No. Who you know? No. But we ask some things about how do you feel about suffering, how do you feel about war, how do you feel about Watergate, how do you feel about racism, and if they don\u2019t pass the test, they don\u2019t come in this door. And that is the greatest loss they could ever know. But I have to take care of my children all equally, and I\u2019m not going to bring any stepchildren in here. (Pause) I\u2019m not going to bring a half-child here. <\/p>\n

Male voice in congregation:<\/b> Amen.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> That stepchild\u2019s a good name in the term of the world, but in the term of the spiritual <\/em>truth, it\u2019s bad. I don\u2019t want any half-child here, a person that\u2019s only halfway here. I want to be your father all the way. And if you\u2019re only going to give me half of yourself, I cannot be your father all the way. So many are just told, come and see us some other time, or we\u2019ll call you. How many know <\/em>of people that\u2019ve heard that message, we\u2019ll call you. Oh, you surely know that. You must know someone. Nearly all of you\u2019ve got someone that\u2019s been told<\/em> that. (Pause) This church\u2019d be packed from s\u2013 wall-to-wall if we would let \u2018em come in here for healings. But we\u2019re seeking people in here that are concerned about liberation. Anybody\u2019s<\/em> gonna come and see a man that on Sunday brought two people out of a wheelchair. People who were in a wheelchair eight years, like the one sister that had her leg withered the Sunday before that. Anyone\u2019s <\/em>gonna come to see someone that can heal blindness, but not many will come that want to get their own blindness of their head cured. Not many people want to come to get their (unintelligible word)\u2013 their mental darkness <\/em>eliminated. They don\u2019t want to get eradicated <\/em>from the d\u2013 the evils that they\u2019re in their own mind and in their heart, their own prejudices. (tape edit) Man in the newspaper that tried to cause us trouble was Kinsolving, now Kinsolving\u2019s been demoted and sent clear to Washington. He\u2019s gone, the man that attacked us [in] the newspaper, and the man that gave him his life was crushed below the mountain, right in our cave. They thought they show our cave to somebody else, and his daughter died right below the mountain where our cave is. And I prophesied it. I said he\u2019ll lose the one he\u2019s been selfish over, he would\u2013 been mistreating one, one of his daughters is here, one of my nurses. She was a schizophrenic, in total withdrawal because he\u2019s molested her. She\u2013 I wouldn\u2019t tell it, but she\u2019s testified to it, she\u2019s now a fine professional nurse. There she is now, one of our best nurses in this church. She couldn\u2019t even move a hand when she came to us. She put her hand up here? That\u2019s where we\u2019d be. Move her head here? That\u2019s where we\u2019d be. Because he had put such a horrible memory. That\u2019s who told the lies that was in that newspaper article over a year ago. But now the daughter he preferred<\/em> is dead, and I said it exactly how it would happen. I said the chi\u2013 the child will die because the child\u2019s going to ruined by him? And he\u2019s\u2013 he\u2019s a jealously wor\u2013 worshipped that child above others, and never given love to the others? That child will die, and they will not need an ambulance to carry that child. It will not die on the spot, but they will not need an ambulance. And somebody picked the child up in a car and took it to Ukiah General Hospital, and from there, someone else took it in a car to Santa Rosa hospital, and there that child died, one week just exactly to the year that I said, because he<\/em> thought he would be able to betray us, and he died, just as I said, and his body was crushed, and he\u2019s never able to work since, and never will <\/em>be able to work since, and his wife has had a major heart attack in her early fifties\u2013 late forties, rather. She\u2019s had one since that article, in fact, a few weeks after the article, and he had his accident right under the\u2013 as the sun hit the mountain, it said, right under the shadow of the mountain of protection. Is that not the truth? Is that not the truth?<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Scattered replies<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> Tell me he will survive. There\u2019s power in this room. <\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Calls and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So why do you take a child? I took a child because if the child had gotten up, he would\u2019ve done the same thing that he did to her. And he took the child away from me, and I couldn\u2019t help the child. So a child was better off in the next planet, the next terrestrial plane, than to be kept in a situation like that. (Pause) I took away that which would hurt him the most and which he would hurt the most. I know what I\u2019m doing. <\/p>\n

Ijames:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> I can heal<\/em>\u2013 I can heal, too, if you\u2019ll trust, but if you\u2019re going to skimp and refuse to help me help others that\u2019re starving, then be careful. And I\u2019ve not been so strong in an offering, I\u2019d be\u2013 be sure I\u2019d be listening to me now. There\u2019s a gentle kind of an offering taken on Wednesday. It\u2019s a stern one here. Fifteen. The last chance. (tape edit) <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And you heard the testimony\u2013 S\u2013 She said I\u2019s gotta protect you. I didn\u2019t go into precise details in public, but I\u2019ve gotta protect you uh, from an accident. And she got her foot caught in the track, and the trolley was coming right down upon her, and the trolley stopped, and the black man run out, and I said, I didn\u2019t even see you, ma\u2019am, and I don\u2019t know how this trolley stopped. She said, I know. My pastor said, I\u2019ve got to look at you on Sunday night.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> We take these things far too for granted. (Pause) (unintelligible word) (tape edit) <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> So don\u2019t you worry. I\u2019ve said you\u2019ll always eat. Did I not say so.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Right. Cheers <\/p>\n

Jones:<\/b> And have you ever seen me break a promise? No. I\u2019ve said you\u2019ll always have arraignment, you\u2019ll always have your place to stay, you\u2019ll always have food, and I said something else. Whether you give a dime or not, you\u2019ll not go to a concentration camp<\/a>, if you come here and give your life to this cause.<\/p>\n

Congregation:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n

End of tape<\/p>\n

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