{"id":63264,"date":"2015-03-04T18:55:56","date_gmt":"2015-03-04T18:55:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=63264"},"modified":"2023-07-11T17:08:00","modified_gmt":"2023-07-12T00:08:00","slug":"annotated-transcript-q1028a","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=63264","title":{"rendered":"Annotated Transcript Q1028A"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>(<strong>Editor&#8217;s note:<\/strong> Transcript prepared by Seriina Covarrubias. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.) <\/i><\/p>\n<p>To return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here<\/a>.\u00a0<br \/>\nTo return to the Annotated Sermons page,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=29177\">click here<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo read the Tape Summary, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28018\">click here<\/a>. To read Tape Transcript,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27314\">click here<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo listen to MP3, <a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q1028-SPLICED.mp3\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Part 1<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Organ music fades<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (unintelligible words) to be able to worship together in this great fulfillment. (Pause) I\u2019m certain that some of you have questions about our new procedures, but believe me, we know what we are doing.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s tragedy that people cannot respect love and humility and kindness. They interpret that sometimes as weakness and (tape fades) tragedy. So today we did uh, our little cadences down the street. We marched through the Fillmore area, but in a different way, smiling and speaking to the people, giving assistance to the people as we did yesterday. Someone was out\u2013 down and out giving them assistance. And as we marched down, there were people asking all kinds of questions. Who are they? Uh\u2013 One brother said, can I join? So you see it\u2013 it had its uh\u2013 it had its advertisement. It\u2019s <i>quite<\/i> different from some others who march who are cold and callused. We speak to everyone we see, and we get out of the way of people, but yet we keep formation. And we\u2019re doing that, because some have said that we were going to be chased out of this block and uh, we\u2019re\u2013 I\u2019m\u2013 I think that if you\u2019d watch people back off the street, I\u2019d think already in 24 hours, people have decided they don\u2019t want to chase us out of the street.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> In\u2013 In fact of the matter, I couldn\u2019t even <i>find<\/i> some people in the street (Laughs). So it\u2019s uh\u2013 it\u2019s wonderful that\u2013 in case anyone <i>is<\/i> threatening to take us out, I suspect that they are reconsidering.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And so we are going to have more of this kind of thing, they\u2013 they got a supply of these things there, this type of a suit or whatever it is.\u00a0 And if others would like to get a spirit of camaraderie and <i>have<\/i> it, uh, let us know. If you can afford it, uh, we would appreciate your help. But I was thinking while Sister [Christine] Bates was testifying, some of you missed the point perhaps, she said, I\u2019m a <i>woman<\/i>. I\u2019m <i>liberated<\/i>, I\u2019m <i>free<\/i>, able to stand on my own feet. Of all the healings that are done in this Temple, that\u2019s the most magnificent when someone can stand up and say, I am indeed a woman and I don\u2019t look down to anyone anymore. I look you in the eyes, or I\u2019m a brother now and no one is above me, and I don\u2019t feel I\u2019d have any need to have anyone below me\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013but I can look you straight in the eye. That\u2019s the greatest healing of all.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now, we could\u2013 very easy for us to ignore the world outside and say appearances mean <i>nothing<\/i>, but the fact is the other day when we were walking in the street, some others were ma\u2013 were making snide remarks about the way we were dressed, that we were kind of sloppy. And so today there weren\u2019t any remarks. People were just looking off with awe\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> All right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013and uh, the remarks were, they\u2019ve never <i>seen<\/i> a group like this before and that was the\u2013 the exact reaction you got every place that you went.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> Wonderful.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>So we deal in a world of uh, realties. Some people won\u2019t give you freedom, unless you look the part, and the danger is when you get extravagant clothes, is then you have competition again. But I think that we\u2019re going to decide \u2013 and we\u2019re going to work towards it \u2013 if you can\u2019t afford it, the Temple will underwrite it, and if you are lying to us, then you\u2019ll probably find yourself dead, like four who have died this week.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We\u2019re going to try to <i>determine<\/i> some kind of a policy of\u2013 of dress so that everyone can walk down the street at least one time. I didn\u2019t mean you always have to dress like us, but that so <i>each<\/i> person will have a nice kind of suit, and I want to say the sisters ought to be ready uh, similarly to get something that would be appropriate. And I think we ought to integrate brothers <i>and<\/i> sisters to show that we are not a chauvinist society, and we will go through this neighborhood now and then, stopping to pick up trash even, stopping our formation to show that we are concerned about this area.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Today we didn\u2019t take uh, the time to do this because we were pressed but to pick up glass \u2013 there were glass on the street \u2013 and were to stop to do that sort of thing and communicate also that Peoples Temple is here, it offers a certain protection, and it also does not intend to be pushed around.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Little remarks\u2013 little remarks that we\u2019re touching, there\u2019s black and white, you know, all shades, and people were impressed by that togetherness. It seemed to put new hope. You could just see the light of hope spring in people\u2019s eyes again, and uh, we want to do more of that. Perhaps at the end of the day, people\u2013 some of the sisters could\u2013 that do have uh, the similar uniform, and others who don\u2019t have but are\u2013 feel that you\u2019re uh, up to par in appearance, we could take another walk, and this time we will pick up some things at the end of the day. We\u2019ll take about a half an hour and we\u2019ll walk through the area, maybe carry a receptacle with us to put dangerous glass in it or something of that sort. Stop and move, stop and move, and communicate our ideals because we don\u2019t want to be out there just to flex muscle, but there\u2019s a <i>fact<\/i> that people who never felt like we feel, who never cared about children and older people and animals, they know <i>nothing<\/i> but the fact of a strong formation.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voices in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s all they know, that\u2019s all they can appreciate.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> So true.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> That\u2019s the first way to get their attention.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> So true.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And we <i>did<\/i> indeed get their attention. It\u2019s been impossible to walk in certain areas. Our people have had to walk out around the curb, but not today\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Man in crowd:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013and not last tonight.<\/p>\n<p><b>Man in crowd:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And we will continue walking, until these streets are open and clear.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Sustained cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We\u2019re not happy that we have to resort to those measures, neither are we happy that we have to have these spot kind of security checks, but we uh, have had little threats\u2013 and I\u2019m not concerned about it, because I\u2019ve come\u2013 I\u2019ve <i>proven<\/i> that I can come through shots\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013and knifing\u2013 and knifings and uh\u2013 but I don\u2019t think we ought to have to sit here wondering whether or not there\u2019s anybody with a little gun or a little\u2013 a knife that they can be mad at the wrong time and shove it into somebody. I think that the best way\u2013 and we\u2019re going to finally avoid some of this, is we\u2019re going to have us a m\u2013\u00a0a metal detector. It\u2019ll be at the door \u2013 that\u2019s what we\u2019re aiming for \u2013 and when you go through the detector, that\u2019ll take care of the problem, so you won\u2019t feel that. But I think we ought to have a right to one time in this crazy mad world that we ought to have the opportunity to sit in the place where we know that there\u2019s somebody not there with a knife or a gun or something else to harm, and where there\u2019s no <i>need<\/i> to have such equipment as that.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Tentative cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> You disagree with that?<\/p>\n<p><b>Voices in crowd:<\/b> No, no.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Anybody disagree with it, you can talk with us about it. We\u2019re\u2013 we\u2019re\u2013 we\u2019re open to it but we\u2013 we would like to have an environment free of that sort of thing, because it\u2019s not uncommon to find in the most uh, prestigious gatherings where senators are or great leaders that someone will pull out a knife or a gun. Well, we are going to see here that that is changed, for a few weeks ago\u2013 few months ago in the front row of the auditorium that we used to use up until we bought this church a couple or three months ago, a woman sit down in the front row, and she was with Bible in hand and she said that uh\u2013 we were wrong and she was right. She accused us of not being filled with the Holy Ghost, and we were the antichrist and we let her preach at us for about thirty minutes or fifteen minutes rather, and she went on and on. And I said now that you\u2019ve had <i>your<\/i> say, you have to be still. She pulled an <i>ice<\/i> pick on Brother Brown, she pulled an <i>ice<\/i> pick on him. This good holy\u2013 holiness woman pulled out her ice pick right out of her Bible and went at him.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> So uh\u2013 <i>we\u2019re<\/i> not going to have it and uh, if you\u2013 if you come in here, uh, we understand you\u2019re walking on the streets. We\u2019re going to have to walk <i>through<\/i> these streets to show something.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now last uh\u2013 some days ago or some time ago, this\u2013 this park\u2013 it is not even safe yet until we walk, but we\u2019re gonna take to walking at night in formations. Women have not been able to walk through that park without being <i>raped<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voices in crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now we\u2019re gonna do something about this area, and if we catch somebody would-be raper uh, we will rape <i>them<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Sustained cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) (Voice rises) We\u2019re gonna <i>stop<\/i> this business. If nobody else in the town cares about this, I\u2019m sure that rapists couldn\u2019t walk through the parks in other areas. And if somebody else is not going to stop these rapists, we <i>will<\/i>, by God.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Our women are as important as the blonde-headed women on Nob Hill.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We\u2019re gonna <i>clean<\/i> up this section of the town, so people can walk from their cars without being mugged.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Murmured response<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> At least we\u2019re going to be around and uh, that gonna create some problem because mugsters not gonna like us. But I think some others <i>will<\/i> like us, if we have to make this place a little bit better place to live in.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voices in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">So let\u2019s make sure that we <i>are<\/i> our brother\u2019s keeper, this is religion, we are our sister\u2019s keeper as we walk these streets, and don\u2019t be indifferent (Genesis 4:9, \u201cAnd the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother\u2019s keeper?\u201d).<\/span> Last\u2013 the very last night couple blocks down the way we\u2013 we rescued a woman who was about to be raped by three men.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Three men and we rescued her so this just last evening. And ah we\u2019re around; and we\u2019re gonna stay around, and we want people to know we\u2019re around.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It won\u2019t mean much to you, I guess, until <i>you<\/i> are running breathlessly as the woman was, trying to protect her own\u2013 her life, trying to protect her own uh, virgin\u2013 uh, virtue of the moment. She didn\u2019t want to be violated and three big men\u2013 big old sissified weird queer men. There\u2019s only weird men, uh, three of \u2018em, chase after a woman\u2013 no, no normal man does that, some little <i>sissy<\/i> does that.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> <i>Sissy<\/i>. You can announce it everywhere that all the rapists are sissies. If you were to rape, you were a sissy when you did it. (unintelligible word)<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> You see, you rape because you think you haven\u2019t got enough, that when you ask that you\u2019d be accepted.<\/p>\n<p><b>Woman:<\/b> Right on.<\/p>\n<p><b>Man:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> So you rape, because you\u2019re very insecure. You don\u2019t\u00a0 think you\u2019ve got enough to offer, so you got to <i>take<\/i> it because you know, if you\u2013 some of you, if you asked, you\u2019d be refused because you know you aren\u2019t much and you\u2019re afraid the <i>women<\/i> will know you aren\u2019t much.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s not right. Young black women don\u2019t even have the opportunity to get to their teens sometimes, walking down the apartment uh, corridors. We need to build a movement to stop this, \u2018cause the Man doesn\u2019t <i>care<\/i>. He doesn\u2019t care if we kill each other off or each other, he doesn\u2019t <i>care<\/i>. He\u2019ll not worry himself until we happen to kill a <i>white<\/i> person, then they\u2019ll be down with all the\u2013 all the artillery. But as long as we\u2019re killing each other, nobody going to <i>worry<\/i> about it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Mexicans killing blacks, or blacks and Indians\u2013 that\u2019s just, that\u2019s just old hat, or poor whites. If you\u2013 you kill a poor white or some mangy white person, they\u2019re not going to worry about that, but when you start follow\u2013 uh, bothering somebody that\u2019s, you know, a little more establishment white, then they get all nervous about that. Well, we\u2013 we think they should be nervous about that. We don\u2019t want anyone killed, but we\u2019re also tired of the fact that black people cannot walk without an\u2013 an ice pick or have to walk with rocks in their\u2013\u00a0their purse and afraid to be out after seven o\u2019clock at night. They talk about crime in the streets, white folks been just yelling about it now. <i>We\u2019ve<\/i> had it for twenty years.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And that\u2019s what we really need here. Not just a healing service, we need a movement.<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered voices in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We need an organization that resists evil and overcomes it with good, not just stand around and looking big, and acting smart on a corner. That some\u2013 they gonna run this one off or run that one off, that doesn\u2019t help any community.<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered voices in crowd:<\/b> No.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We want to walk through this community, but not with the attitude we\u2019re gonna run anybody off, but that we\u2019re walking down to help you and to smile and to give them\u2013 but to show, blessed God, if you take on one of us, you\u2019ve got the whole <i>pack<\/i> of us to take on.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s sweet. Today the\u2013 the miracles just been\u2013 have been so wonderfully great that uh\u2013 you that did not hear it, the editor of this newspaper, large newspaper in Los Angeles, <i>Herald Dispatch<\/i>. You can order it back in the\u2013 to my uh, right, Sister Morton [Bea Morton, aka Bea Orsot]who is the membership secretary also is the secretary for <i>subscriptions<\/i> to this paper. A woman came in my meeting last week, and it was a powerful demonstration of unity, great miracles were wrought, but the communications from my fellow believers were the things that, uh, that was the thing that touched her heart, and she went out saying that this is indeed Jesus Christ.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> This is indeed Jesus Christ reincarnated, and she said I\u2019m going to give a free sermon of his every week, and so she kept her word. My sermon is on the front page of this paper that reaches out all over the world. She has\u2013 she has chains in Ohio, throughout the East and uh, throughout the uh, service, she sends this so our sermon\u2013 says, \u201cPastor Jim Jones of Peoples Temple Speaks, Los Angeles. In a time when churches cannot be found practicing what they preach, one minister is doing exactly that seven days a week,\u201d and it goes on and on.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I read again. She said, \u201cThe federal officials from the United States Comm\u2013 Commission on Civil Rights called the Peoples Temple ministry the <i>only<\/i> working interracial community in the United States, and the <i>Herald Dispatch<\/i> ownership agrees. Beginning with our January 18th issue, Pastor Jones will submit a weekly sermon for the benefit for all of our thousands of readers.\u201d (unintelligible phrase, spoken twice)<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> God is on the march.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> <i>So<\/i> glad. Now we\u2013 that\u2019s Los Angeles and Sister [Marceline] Jones is down there today, ministering to more people than are in this room\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> Oh yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013because that\u2019s what\u2013 on Thursday night I\u2019m going on Thursday nights these days. I want to talk about another bus commission so I can get a bus maybe to go down one way, and some of you can stay there to help me with some legwork that we need to do. Los Angeles is such a mean city, it needs more of us.<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered voices in crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It really\u2013 it really is a mean <i>wicked<\/i> city\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered voices in crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013but the masses\u2013 the masses are really coming on Thursday night without any notification whatsoever, the Temple was filled. The right balcony, left balcony\u2013 you could put, I don\u2019t know two or three of these buildings, maybe <i>four<\/i> of this in that Temple. That Temple is a big Temple, and it was <i>filled<\/i> on Thursday night. You who have not gone with us, why don\u2019t you take a trip with us next Friday and uh, after the meeting here, and travel down the way. I come back by air. I was there on Thursday and came back for this\u2013 for this last Friday night\u2019s meeting by air. I would like to take some down in a bus, from the valley, that could work in the community, work around the church, help them with organization, and you could stay over and I could come back here for Friday night service and take another bus on down. Uh, we\u2013 we <i>need<\/i> to\u2013 we need to be there on a regular basis because Los Angeles is booming, and we want to show them that we are not uh, going to give in.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> You see we\u2019re glad to report the miracle of Pinky sitting over there, if she\u2019ll stand. (Pause) Last Sunday, this sister had a <i>stroke<\/i>, a <i>massive<\/i> stroke that paralyzed her all over her body, she couldn\u2019t move anything, and uh, I called her back from the stroke by saying how much I needed her, and commanding her to\u2013 to awake, and she came out of it. And\u2013\u00a0But they took her blood pressure, she had a total cerebral hemorrhage, a massive stroke. I said she was out, that was it. She was <i>completely<\/i> immobilized, completely paralyzed, and I had instructed\u2013 that\u2019s why you need to listen to every word I say\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013I said before the congregation, thousands that were there, I said, \u201cDo not go out in the street today.\u201d I said, \u201cThere\u2019ll be trouble in the street. Don\u2019t go out.\u201d But people forgot it and at the end I said, \u201cDon\u2019t call an ambulance. I don\u2019t like the attitude of this ambulance crew here.\u201d I said, \u201cDon\u2019t call an ambulance,\u201d but someone slipped up and called an ambulance just to check her when she was\u2013 I\u2019d brought her back, she was conscious and everything was working, but they took her blood pressure, and her blood pressure was still over 200, you see, because I\u2019d brought her back from over <i>300<\/i> where the stroke had just\u2013the blood mass had gone through her brain. And I\u2013 I said we can just have her checked with an ordinary doctor, and let\u2019s take her, but nurses being precautious, they got an ambulance. The ambulance came, these two white attendants, and they were as <i>mean<\/i> as they could be, you can tell by the way she\u2019s looking there. They\u2019ve treated her like she was a sack of wheat or barley and uh, unkindly, unkindly way, it\u2019s indescribable. They refused to let her down they didn\u2019t want to dirty her stretcher, they made her walk out and they <i>booted<\/i> her into the ambulance, and made her <i>sit<\/i> here. And we said that she wanted off, she didn\u2019t want on there. And so Brother Brown here, young man who works for a city agency here, never been arrested, Brother Cleveland Jackson here who works for a federal agency, never been arrested in his life, protested it, and that man said dirty M.F. nigger, get yourself away from here and so forth and so on, and took his flashlight and started whipping at us, and the next thing we knew the police came on from everywhere.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Everywhere. Helicopters over our head, police out there with billy clubs. Sister Jones protested one of our\u2013 our young, I think John Brown who was grabbed and manacled, and he\u2013 seven of \u2018em were on him, pulling the neck back, and one of our sisters, the blond little sister back here, Sister [Tish] LeRoy, they grabbed her by the neck and pulled her over the fence and my son, little\u2013 littlest twelve-year-old son [Jim Jones, Jr.] put up his hand for his mother, and they <i>poked<\/i> him in the belly, and he fell down for a moment.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And one of our sisters I had to heal\u2013 I had to heal. I\u2019m gonna tell you, I\u2019m telling you the truth. Yeah. How many people saw this mess?<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It was a mess, this was a\u2013 this was a <i>hellish<\/i> mess that went on. One of our young women is in the hospital, a spleen ruptured and she was bleeding to death and her heart stopped, if I hadn\u2019t meditated, she\u2019da been dead. And they fortunately avoided surgery. That\u2019s what went on by the so-called people who are supposed to <i>keep<\/i> the law. Anyway, we got our\u2013 we got our sister off of the ambulance. (Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> They looked around\u2013 They looked around and said where\u2019s the patient?<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2018Cause while we were tassling, somebody else went over there, got her, and got her off\u2013 (Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We weren\u2019t gonna let one of our sisters go to a\u2013 with a bunch of <i>beasts<\/i> like that. She was protesting, so they looked back and said that\u2013 Now all this\u2013 one of the policemen, he had a sense of humor, he said all this fightin\u2019 and he said the patient\u2019s gone. (Laugh)<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And that\u2019s the way we stick together. (unintelligible word) they slapped my\u2013 they slapped handcuffs on Sister Jones for protesting it, and rou\u2013 took her and put her behind her back and throwed her in the police car and sent her to jail, first time my wife even had a talk with a policeman, much less be arrested. And they took uh, the young man and he come from CBS [Michael Prokes], and he\u2019s sitting up there in the front row of the balcony, they\u2013 he asked some questions, they throwed <i>him<\/i> in jail, and they throwed <i>this<\/i> brother in jail, and they threw Brother Brown in jail. And I went around and says, take me, take me. And they wouldn\u2019t take me, \u2018cause there\u2019s two or three thousand <i>people<\/i> there, you know. And I went in to the people and I car\u2013 give them a message, I said I\u2019ll be back, if I\u2019m not arrested. And I knew what was in the wind in my subconscious, I knew what was in the wind, I knew when they would get me down there, they thought they\u2019d see what they can do. So I went in to bail them out, got in and started talking about those white bigot attendants\u2013 ambulance attendants and they come in and says, you\u2019re under arrest. Now if I\u2019d done a crime, why wouldn\u2019t they arrested me an hour before?<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered voices in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> They just slapped the\u2013 put handcuffs on me, and put me in the jail. There\u2019s blood on the floor, I guess they thought that\u2019d impress me. I just said I\u2019m going to take a rest, and I looked them straight in the eye and laid down.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I said I need a rest. They said well, if that\u2019s the way you feel. I said that\u2019s the way I feel. A little bit later they came back in, one man, nice, Commander Roland came back and said a man like you shouldn\u2019t have to be behind bars. I said well, it\u2019s a good experience. Said a whole lotta good people behind bars, and uh\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013so I\u2013 I said uh, it\u2019s a good experience. And he said well, your good\u2013 good\u2013 your bail is only 600 and, whatever it was, 75 or 95 dollars, you\u2019ll be out in no time. I said oh no, I won\u2019t be out. I said I\u2019m saying. He said\u2013 he said, you staying? The other man said\u2013 he dropped his mouth, and he said, we\u2019ve had a lotta people want to get in here, uh, out of here, but nobody want to stay. I said I\u2019m gonna stay because black people can\u2019t <i>afford<\/i> to bail themselves out and I said, I\u2019m their leader, I\u2019m their\u2013 I\u2019m their pastor. I\u2019m going to be a Father, you can depend upon it, wherever I\u2019m at. And I said, if all people can\u2019t afford to bail out, so I\u2019m in, I\u2019m saying in. I said it\u2019s not right for people to be able to buy their way out of jail. If you can\u2019t trust a person out on the street, don\u2019t let them out, but don\u2019t let some rich hoodlum buy himself out while some black person has to stay in because he doesn\u2019t have the money, or doesn\u2019t know the right people. [I] Said I\u2019m staying in and I\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It was wonderful. They had Sister Jones all ready to fingerprint her and take her off. Three minutes they went back and they weighed that a little bit and they come back said, we decided not to arrest you. We\u2019re going to\u2013 we\u2019re going to uh, turn that over to the District Attorney and uh, let him decide whether he wants, and I said whatever, because I said I will not bail myself out, so they let me out, but the charges were still heavy against these brothers. Felony, assault and battery on an officer. <i>We<\/i> were the ones that got assaulted. <i>We<\/i> were the one that got the battery, and\u2013 and we\u2013 we were the ones that got it. She was the one that was kicked and boo\u2013 boo\u2013 booted into an ambulance, an older black mother. Oh, I\u2019ll tell you, we\u2019re living in a dictatorship. You don\u2019t know it, it\u2019s already on us, around our necks, it\u2019s hanging over us. But I um, I said well, we\u2019ll get together. There only thing the Man appreciates, that\u2019s strength and unity. And even the attorney said, \u201cWell, it won\u2019t do any good to have the first appearance, uh, it\u2019s only arraignment. They won\u2019t drop charges there.\u201d I said, \u201cLet\u2019s see how many people we can put and see what happens.\u201d I told those brothers the night before, \u201cI know we get this down to misdemeanor.\u201d And so the next day we came in there, a hundred and some strong, between a hundred and two hundred people, and all come in there smiling at each other, looking around, and hugging each other, and coming in and um, arm to arm, shoulder to shoulder. (Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> They didn\u2019t open their mouth. They just looked out over that crowd and said, \u201cThe\u2013\u00a0the\u2013 the charges are dropped to misdemeanor.\u201d (Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd:<\/b> That\u2019s what they did.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises) So you\u2013 some of you think you\u2019re here for healing. What you need to do is get here because you need somebody to look after you, and you alone can\u2019t fight this system, but when you\u2019re together\u2013 when you stand together, we can do something about this opposition.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Doesn\u2019t take much unity, doesn\u2019t take too many people. Just a handful of people, but if they stand together, the Man don\u2019t know what to do with that bunch.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> So we had an interesting week. Arrested one minute and not arrested the next moment, and charged with assault and battery the one moment, the next moment a misdemeanor. And that should tell you something. You\u2019ve heard me talk about I\u2019d go to jail for you, but this time these brothers can say they <i>saw<\/i> it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> They saw it. I didn\u2019t fool around with it, and I stayed in. They were in, so I stayed in.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd<\/b>: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And then they decided to let it out, you see. They didn\u2019t want to charge us, and that\u2019s what we\u2019re gonna always do, and that\u2019s why you should get behind this church with all your mind and soul. We put up eleven thousand dollars in bail money. For others too. One brother that\u2019d been converted, he\u2019d been beat down by the system. He\u2013 he was supposed to get ten years. He walked through there and it looks like we\u2019re gonna get that down to\u2013 It\u2019s already been moved from the Federal Court to the State Court, and it\u2019s quite possible he\u2019ll get off with a probationary sentence. And there was\u2013 it was no doubt, the attorney said, he facing ten years, so don\u2019t tell me \u2013 this is not this case, this is another case, he was converted, he\u2013 he used to be with heroin, he got victimized uh, in the role of being a pusher. Someone else let him carry the weight of it, and he ended up getting the charge of being a pusher, and that\u2019s a hard thing to get out of, but you know we got him out, he\u2019s here in the h\u2013 house tonight. He\u2019s here today.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And it\u2019s interesting, that uh, he\u2019s being transferred to the same courtroom that they\u2019re gonna be in, for the\u2013 the final\u2013 his final disposition of the case, so if we\u2019ll get ourselves together \u2013 and we really do need to. We had uh\u2013 we had our attorney too, we had our attorney. Our church got our attorney for our brothers, and that\u2019s what they\u2019ll do for you. You stand loyal in the family, that\u2019s what we\u2019ll do. We had them standing right there, the best. We don\u2019t intend to get any pikers anymore because we\u2013 we\u2019ve been uh\u2013 we\u2019ve had our dirty work enough, and we\u2019re gonna stand together and get the best of everything, but it has been a costly week. Now if you care about <i>your<\/i> future, you\u2019ll help with the brothers and sisters that went through this\u2013 this week, won\u2019t you? So this morning I\u2019m gonna ask you especially to stir up your heart for a special giving. Eleven thousand dollars went out from this family in bail last week. You know another church that put 100 dollars out for you? Nahh\u2013<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered in crowd:<\/b> No.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> They wouldn\u2019t put a hundred bucks on you. Say well, uh\u2013 I\u2013 one lady said, \u201cWell, people get in trouble, they don\u2019t need bail.\u201d You oughta\u2013 Listen. You ought to take example from her because when she said that\u2013 the uh, usher that told me that she said that, I went to her and I said you get out of here. Because when you wouldn\u2019t stand up for one of our black mothers who\u2019d been <i>kicked<\/i> around and put in an ambulance against her will, when <i>you<\/i> wouldn\u2019t stand up for that and go to jail, and you then have the nerve to say they deserve to get what they got, we don\u2019t want you in here.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We don\u2019t want you in here. \u2018Cause you and Uncle Tom, Aunt Jane, we got uh, we got enough Oreos, we got enough Oreos. We don\u2019t want any Oreos in here at all. These folks that\u2019re black outside but white inside, we don\u2019t\u2013 we\u2013 we don\u2019t\u2013 we don\u2019t need any of those folk that act like they\u2019re\u2013 they\u2019re so, uh, so white. You know you\u2019re not white. Anybody in here\u2013 Isn\u2019t no white persons in here, are there?<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered in crowd:<\/b> No.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Anybody white here?<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered in crowd:<\/b> No. (Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Laughs) Course not. Because you\u2019ve identified with the problem. If you\u2019re working for liberation, than you\u2019re black, honey and\u2013 Listen, I never saw anybody white except when they\u2019re dead. The only white folk are laying on a slab, so you don\u2019t want to be white. We\u2019re all mixed up, but anybody loves freedom\u2019s black. Right?<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Right. (Scattered applause)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> So I wonder at this moment if there\u2019s anyone has a very special gift to get on that bail, \u2018cause that money\u2019s going to be tied up for some time. We had to put out fifteen hundred dollars for an attorney. We want the <i>best<\/i> criminal attorney in Los Angeles. Don\u2019t you think?<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2018Cause the uh\u2013 the criminals are trying to mistreat people, and we\u2019ve got the <i>best<\/i> one in <i>this<\/i> town. Don\u2019t fool with us, \u2018cause if you do, you\u2019re going to have to take this <i>whole<\/i> church on, that\u2019s the way it is.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> You report anything that\u2019s done wrong to you, you report to the council. We certainly except to keep the law, we\u2019re not going to be involved in petty thievery or thug\u2013 uh, mug\u2013 muggers. We\u2019re not going to do that, and we won\u2019t protect you in things that\u2019re crimes against the people. You commit a crime against the people, and we\u2019re gonna give you a shellacking.<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered in crowd:<\/b> Right, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> But if somebody\u2019s committing a crime against <i>you<\/i>, you are going to have the defense of this church, and we\u2019ve got\u2013 it takes <i>money<\/i> to do that, you know it does. How many here this morning will give something over a hundred dollars? Right quick. We have to take the offering this way this weekend. Hundred dollars. (Pause) Anyone here, over a hundred dollars, a hundred or over? Right quickly, come on, help us out. Who will be first to pledge or give 100 dollars this\u2013 this very morning?<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Part 2<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Man:<\/b> Okay, Reverend Jim Jones is one of the most unique and effective religious leaders on the scene today.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I am very happy that this protest meeting is taking place, and that so many of you could be here. I hope that meetings such as this will be taking place all over the nation, and that they will be attended by people of conscience everywhere. It is our duty as human beings, no matter what our political persuasion, or religious preference, race, or nationality, to raise one unified voice of protest of indignation of outrage against the terrible exploitation and oppression that is taking place in the Union of South Africa. It is most critical, it is most critical that a wave of protest arise that will shake the conscience of the Western world so that the inhumane practices and illegitimate Nazi-like white supremacist government of South Ap\u2013 Africa can and will be stopped.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s really important that we black, brown, and poor white people who are undergoing oppression here in the United States make our protest loud and clear. We must realize that black and colored people of South America\u2013 South Africa who are experiencing the most vicious forms of racism and oppression in the entire world, that we can know of today, are our own brothers and sisters. We must identify with their situation, their plight, their struggle, for it is ours. Sometimes I think we get removed, we get removed. Last Sunday we were privileged to have with us Mrs. Unita [Blackwell] Wright, the mayor of Mayersville, Mississippi. Fortunately one of our ladies happened to look outside between our building and caught a you\u2013 a man [Thomas Dawsey] <i>listening<\/i> with a tape recorder. Then a process began which was long and tegious [tedious], contacting people of good will throughout this state, even inside a U-Rental Car agency. And there we found out the location of the or\u2013 origin of these people, and they came all the way from Mississippi. If you\u2019ll read the <i>Sun Reporter<\/i> this week, you\u2019ll began to get just a glimpse. In a few days I\u2019m going to be releasing a letter to several sen\u2013 senators and congresspersons, and then you will know the <i>extent<\/i> of how much interest there was in one brave little black woman that has struggled for civil liberties in the South and just happened to visit China, which is everyone\u2019s right. She didn\u2019t even come to emulate China, she came to talk about the rights of all people, and yet she got the interest of people so high in government, it caused me to shudder. So freedom is at stake here. It\u2019s not just a matter of thinking about the Union of South Africa, we are being intimidated still after Watergate, steer\u2013 still after all the revelations of the CIA, it is still going on. It\u2019s no longer theory, because we have absolute bona fide proof that it\u2019s still going on.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (unintelligible word) W.E.B. DuBois charged that black people in the United States had been tricked into discounting Africa, and disassociating themselves with\u2013 from the culture and history of our country. The trick, DuBois explained, was to exchange the promises of equal status here in America for the slavery of the majority of our people in Africa and in other parts of the world. It has been too many of the churches and politicians who are responsible for creating this terrible division, this cultural disassociation between so-called American blacks and black people in the rest of the world. American blacks have been persuaded that we are somehow better, luckier, more privileged or perhaps even saved by having been brought to this so-called Christian nation from pagan darkness or savagery. This vicious strategy of divide and conquer has ever been the tactic of the oppressor, the exploiter and it forms the unbroken tradition of the treatment of non-white people in this country, in spite of our heritage of democracy, freedom, justice, and equality. That is our paper heritage.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I start to lift my two fingers and it\u2019s to she\u2013 it\u2019s a shame that this meaningful symbol that used to mean peace, you\u2019re afraid to use it anymore, because Mr. Nixon [former President Richard Nixon] made it so dirty.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace, peace. Let\u2019s face it. We have been disinherited. We in American have the unfulfilled promises of American democracy dangled in front of us, and it is becoming increasingly clear that the promises will remain unfulfilled in too many spheres. Indeed, with the announcement of the Bakke decision last month, together with the many other disturbing signs which I\u2019m\u2013 may speak of in a few moments, it is becoming quite clear that black and brown people are being put on official notice that we are no longer wanted in the mainstream of American society.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now when we look at the situation in South Africa, we are really looking at what amounts to American colonialism. The combination of brutal racial and economic exploitation is no accident. It is a formula that is designed to make the few rich and powerful at the expense of the many. It represents a rigid class system that puts dollars\u2013 profits first and human rights last. It is a formula that was patent by western se\u2013 society centuries ago. What is most critical about South Af\u2013\u00a0South Africa and the most important reason for us to be most seriously concerned about the situation in that totalitarian regime, is that South African society reflects that this country could well be heading towards. Indeed for those who have eyes to see and to read the signs, it is becoming evident that this is indeed the case. The Kerner Commission on Civil Disorders several years ago preticted\u2013 predicted that America is <i>fast<\/i> becoming <i>two<\/i> societies, one white, the other non-white, separate and unequal. In recent years we are seeing racism rise again across the land with upsurges of the Klan, that almost took over the <i>prison<\/i> of New York and today brought com\u2013 uh, brought division and riot in the leading prison in Georgia. And in the swelling of the ranks of white supremacists and vi\u2013 vigilante groups, I can tell you that they\u2019re swelling, because we have a children\u2019s home in the suburbs in this great metropolitan area, and it\u2019s swelling by the moment. Am\u2013 Anti-Semitism and anti-black feeling is on the rise, if we have much more economic disorder, and we will. We\u2019re gonna see racism that will make us familiar with what our brothers and sisters are going through in South Africa. Even moderate Roy Wilkins, in stepping down from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, and I think it\u2019s time we\u2013 we talk so much. I even hesitated to get up here. We talk so much. Everyone here before they leave tonight, at least belong to the National Association for the Advancement of Co\u2013 Colored People one of the most moderate spokes uh\u2013 agencies in America, and yet we\u2013 it nearly died just a few weeks ago and still is not out of the woods. It almost died economically. It\u2019s one thing to voice a lot of rhetoric about freedom, it\u2019s something else to back it up with our money and our actions.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Roy Wilkins, when he stepped down, said that America is heading for a racial showdown but what is even more foreboding is that the combination of technological advances and rising unemployment is quickly making poor and night\u2014 We non-white people in this uh, country and even poor white country, white people in this country virtually obsolete. Mere wards of the state, a nuisance, a drain on the budget, a liability, unwanted. And with the growing racist sentiment, a way has been opened up for legislation and court decisions that are turning back the clock of civil rights advances. One example of this, as I said, is the Bakke decisions which many hundreds of members of Peoples Temple protested recently as some of you hundreds of others downtown. This symptom of de facto racism in America would eliminate deserving minority people from the colleges. It\u2019s effect reported by the <i>Los Angeles Times<\/i> will be to make our colleges and universities lily white in just a matter of months. In the wake of automation and rising unemployment, new and frightening economic theories are being proposed. Even some backers such as Uncle Tom economists. I won\u2019t name them, I\u2019m too angry to name anybody tonight. If it\u2013 if implemented would return blacks and even poor whites, up to 40% of the population, according to the <i>Newsweek<\/i> article, to a state of servitude. This brand of economics, which is known as cleometrics, would represent a kind of findel\u2013 kind of final solution for non-white poor people, and if it\u2019s 40%, that means that <a href=\"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=123138\">a whole lot of white folk better re\u2013 wake up and realize that they\u2019re niggers too<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> This happening\u2013 this is happening today in South Africa <i>obviously<\/i> and it is your (unintelligible word), but suddenly it\u2019s creeping upon us as a paralysis of death. Tomorrow it may be happening right here in an overt way. The proponents of these economic theories argue that blacks are better off as slaves, even happier. This unholy alliance between economic pseudo-science and racism reminds us of Nazi Germany, and we have to remind ourselves tonight that one heads of the larger\u2013 one of the large churches of America situated in a mansion of 30 rooms in Michigan was a butcher in Bulgaria that murdered German children, uh, Jewish children rather, Romanian Jewish children, and Bulgarian Jewish children, and hung them up and stamped Kosher meat. And he\u2019s still in here, in this country because he suited Mr. [Joseph] McCarthy\u2019s anti-communism in the 50\u2019s, and there\u2019s sixty others like him in high places still, naturalized citizens of these United States that participated in one of the bloody\u2013 bloodiest\u2013 blood\u2013 bloodbaths that we\u2019ve every known. We know that in Germany racial hatred under the Nazi\u2019s followed a certain progression. It wasn\u2019t quick. First civil rights were taken, piece by piece from the Jews and others considered to be inferior human beings. Then the non-desirables were made into slaves in forced labor camps. Finally they were exterminated. The same syndrome is taking place in South Africa, the sham homelands or Bantustans are the scenes of mass starvation and misery. Even our television shows mass graves of those children that die daily and our corporations signs, American corporations all over. It\u2019s not just stopping buying a few coins. A great deal of our <i>economy<\/i> is based on the blood and sweat of our brothers and sisters in South Africa.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Great majority of diamonds, machine tools, meat, mutton, lamb, hides, you could go on and on, there\u2019s no end. Look at any scene of the Union of South Africa and see if you recognize any of the corporate names. See if you recognize the great motor companies, and the great rubber companies, and the great industrial companies of the United States. Don\u2019t you uh\u2013 one time you can\u2019t look at the TV without recognizing that in many sense of the word. one could conclude that the Union of South Africa is a <i>colony<\/i> of the United States corporate elite.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> These Bantustans tonight are the scenes of mass starvation and misery. Even in the cities and barracks for workers, the conditions are <i>abdominal<\/i>, less than human. American corporations pay stub\u2013 sub-starvation wages routinely to blacks, some as low as 16 cents an hour. Meanwhile, the children are dying. The graves are dug in advance, death by starvation and disease is a forgone conclusion. And one asked as we look around in America today are we witnessing the same frighteningly\u2013 frightening progression? Are we considering uh, properly the conditions of South Africa today in America? Are we looking at a nightmarish vision of our own future here in the land of the free which still has one of the greatest opportunities for all people if we\u2019ll exercise it? What is so frightening in our land today is that we don\u2019t exercise it. I don\u2019t know what Mr. Carter promises to bring, but the thing that concern me is that our people gave him our endorsement before we even found out <i>what<\/i> he had to offer.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> And as we traversed, as we traversed the ways\u2013 and the highways of this city, we would speak to many of our people and say, he has to be a good man, he\u2019s a Baptist. That means nothing, my friends, because in the churches where Angela Davis grew up, four little black children were blown up and allegedly they were blown up by Baptist who left the white Baptist church and came over and to this day have not been prosecuted.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace. I want to say to you who threatened, and threaten that we\u2019d be bombed, and we\u2019d be shot today if we came in here, I had a rather moderate talk. But the more you threaten, the more some people will be aroused.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We will not be deterred. The concern we must identify with our South African brothers and sisters, just as we must identify with the Jews or any other people that\u2019re oppressed at any time, let us recall to you the German clergyman [Martin Niem\u00f6ller] who suffered under the Nazis, attitude prevailed today. He wrote that when the Nazis came after the Communists, he did nothing, for he wasn\u2019t a Communist. And when they came after the Jews, he did nothing, for he wasn\u2019t a Jew, and like many Protestants held prejudices against the Jews. The same for the trade union\u2013 unionist, and the Catholics too, when they persecuted them. Finally, he said, when the Nazis came after him he said that at that point there was nobody left to stand up for him. All had been taken away. That\u2019s what\u2019s going to happen to us. I am standing on this platform with socialists tonight of various de\u2013 varieties and descriptions, I\u2019m standing with the Nation of Islam, and I think it\u2019s been obvious in the press that Peoples Temple and the Nation of Islam are very close. I will stand with anyone that loves freedom, and I will protect with my <i>right<\/i> there\u2013 my <i>life<\/i> their right to have speech.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013test, our protest here must first of all must be a clear demonstration of the solidarity and compassion we feel for the people of the illegitimately-ruled captive nations of South Africa, and Rhodesia. By the way Senator [Dick] Clark of Iowa needs to be sent a letter by everyone in this room. We\u2019ve had so much pussy-footing in high places, but Senator Clark said today or yesterday, he said America was birthed by a revolution, and we certainly said it was a legitimate thing to fight for our freedom, and he said that he felt that the American government should stand on the side of the\u2013 the\u2013 the\u2013 the Zimbabweans, the\u2013 those of Zimbabwe and say those of the\u2013 Rhodesia that are oppressed and say that, they have the right to fight for their freedom. It\u2019s too bad that people have to fight, but it doesn\u2019t seem that we\u2019re able to <i>talk<\/i> our way to freedom in South Africa.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace, peace. He will suffer much censure for that, he will suffer much criticism, and quite likely an election, so we ought to at least say a thank you to him. That would be the best thing that could come out of a meeting, actions of various type. The existence of the apartheid re\u2013 regime of [South African Prime Minister B.J.] Vorster, the Vorster government, its very existence is a testimony to the <i>total<\/i> failure of western society and especially to the nations that\u2019re supporting the hateful regime. To their total failure to live up to the humanistic principles of their constitutions, to their pious promises of inalienable rights and equality and justice for all. A failure to live up to the ethics of the spiritual teacher who they supposedly model their lives after, what a total abomination that Mr. Vorster\u2019s party would call itself the <i>Christian<\/i> party. Yet it is not at all surprising, for in the name of Christianity, and in the name of civilization, in the name of all that is good and right, white western culture has murdered, brutalized, enslaved, tortured, and exterminated his doctor brothers all around the globe and there has been no change in that legacy of blood.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Today on the Bantustans of South Africa, on the wastelands that are a sham homelands for once-proud and flourishing people, millions are starving and will starve. Both cities and countryside have become nothing but concentration camps. Every day, Christ is crucified a thousand times. I\u2019m so sick of hearing about Christ coming. Christ is already here, and he\u2019s being crucified in South Africa.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Peace. \u2018<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Cause it was written,<\/span> anyone that denied that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is anti-Christ, <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">everyone that came, the light of conscience, that light within them was Christ in them the hope of glory (Colossians 1:27, \u201cTo whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.\u201d).<\/span> Are we to remain silent tonight, yet <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">what is happening today is very momentous for the robber barons, the exploiters, that vicious breed of exploiters who are using the slave system of apartheid to squeeze out profits. They are cheating by their own iniquity a force that is beginning to turn and cry out, \u201cNo more, we have had enough.\u201d\u00a0(Psalm 94:20-23, \u201cShall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law? They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood. But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge. And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity, and shall cut them off in their own wickedness; yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.\u201d)<\/span> And on that echoing syllable and on that everlasting no history is being turned around. The wretched of the earth are now beginning to rise up in South Africa. The seeds of a new order are being sown. If American free enterprise wants to survive, it better <i>humanize<\/i> itself. It better humanize itself very quickly, or the whole of the continent of South Africa will hate us with a <i>passion<\/i> that could not be registered in the annals of conscience. So it\u2019s most important today that we affirm our unity with the oppressed of Southern Africa, their exploitation can no longer continue, their struggle is ours. Beyond divisions of space and time, beyond divisions of language and cultural background, beyond differences of race and religion, there is an underlying human identity that we are he\u2013 that we here tonight confirm. The crime of our civilization has been to divide people. The great sin of religion has been to create divisions, to lose sight of the fundamental human identity beyond the labels, the denominations, the doctrines that are just uh\u2013 that are just used to separate us. Or\u2013 or so many times we have four or five churches in a block, about the only thing that looks good in our block is the liquor store and the churches, because that\u2019s a nice way for a man to have a Cadillac without working.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Thank you, thank you.<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> By no means do I make the sacrifice I\u2019d like to, because I fell <i>sickened<\/i> when I can think of a beautiful soul like Mrs. Unita Wright who went over with Shirley MacLaine, a po\u2013 woman of prestige and honor, a mayor of a Mississippian city that can go to China and for that have agencies so powerful in this country that would stagger your mind. And following her, shadowing her all the way from Mississippi, and then reporting to the highest levels in our society. I feel so incensed tonight with the threats that came into our church about a bombing just before I came and that wo\u2013I would be shot here. I feel so incensed frankly that I\u2019m alive. I feel incensed that I am not over in the Bantustans fighting with them, because it seems to me that there\u2019s a great apathy in this country and I hope that it soon changes. Tonight gives me some encouragement, although as I look out, I see still a great number of my own members, but I look back there and I see some fine young people that I do not know and I\u2013 and this\u2013 these that are moderating this meeting and I hope that you will join them on Wednesday and out of this will come a movement for the people that will have no particular ring of personality cult. There was too much clapping for me tonight. As the man said, we need to clap for the people. This is a people\u2019s movement. We\u2019re gonna have to get away from personalities, because that\u2019ll divide us quicker than anything. We need to unite around the common struggle of freedom of oppressed people wherever they are.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We must\u2013 we must not fall prey to the trap. We must not fail our mission of unity and compassion by quibbling over petty distinctions. We must not worry whether we\u2019re setting next to a Communist or not. We got into that era in the 50\u2019s, and we\u2019ve got a lot of Nazi murderers in our midst, so we must quit worrying about political persuasion or religious persuasion and recognize that as long as people stand up for freedom, they are our sister and they are our brother.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I\u2019m gonna skip over a great deal of this, because there\u2019s been enough words said. The aspirations of the majority of disenfranchised and encaptive peoples are in danger. Our investments were in danger, and that\u2019s what\u2019s the great concern to so many in this country, and that\u2019s their concern period. That\u2019s why they\u2019re <i>there<\/i>. And any provisional solutions to the man\u2013 the demands of the enslaved peoples of Southern Africa on the part of the white western powers will be <i>motivated<\/i>, you can be <i>sure<\/i>, by the same factors that prevailed in Southeast\u2013 Southeast Asia in the 50\u2019s and 60\u2019s. I\u2019m waiting on Mr. Carter, and I hope and dream and desire, that he will represent change, but I know that the past few histories, the past\u2013past few decades have not been too bright. I cannot forget South Vietnam. The same motivations that prevailed in Latin America, in Central America and in so many other areas around the world: profit. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">The love of money which is the root of all evil. Even the Bible says that\u2019s the anti-Christ (1 Timothy 6:10, \u201cFor the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.\u201d).<\/span> So you that love profit, you\u2019re the anti-Christ.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice in crowd<\/b>: Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Our investments in South Africa must be protected, say the robber barons. I say tonight, to <i>hell<\/i> with your damned investments.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We want freedom, we shall have freedom, and if you don\u2019t give it us on our terms, we shall <i>seize<\/i> that freedom.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I have a\u2013 I have been a pacifist all my life, and I still hope and abide by the feeling that somehow love and goodwill will be able to change mankind. But I remember when we\u2013 some of our members a few years ago chose to give Angela Davis help in her hour of plight, and we\u2019d help even a John Bircher, because we don\u2019t believe anyone should be persecuted for their beliefs. But just a few days thereafter, we went through a nightmare that I would never have believed. In came a newsman [Lester Kinsolving]\u2013 thank goodness he\u2019s been sent on his way. A Right Reverend that used to be a newsman here for one of the establishment newspapers. He came, and he went through our church with no desire to even look at our children\u2019s homes, our senior citizen homes, our legal services. He had no desire\u2013 he had only had one desire, to persecute us because we stood up for freedom. Things are a little better in the establishment in the\u2013 in San Francisco. I\u2019m not sure that things are better across the nation. And I want to say, and it\u2019s tried but true, that eternal vigilance is going to be the price of our liberty. And those days I don\u2019t think are entirely gone because, I thought last Sunday, I hope maybe they were. That time the reporter had three operators monitor all of our lawyers\u2019 phones and my phones for two t\u2013 solid months. Where did he get his money from? Where did it all come from? He traveled to the headquarters of my denomination to two conventions from Texas to Indiana to try to get on the floor and denounce me as a pinko. I don\u2019t even know what I am, but I know I love liberty.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013fractions. Empty pious phrases that have lulled this nation into dangerous apathy. We must realize that unless these great principles are secured in South Africa, in Zimbabwe, that democracy will be in peril <i>here<\/i>, it will be meaningless <i>here<\/i>. We don\u2019t want to forget that even now in the prisons in America, the majority are people of color, and many are being experimented on. That um\u2013 a good reverend that spoke\u2013 spoke out for liberty, Ben Chavis, is in jail for so many years, you cannot count them, (claps hands once) that there are p\u2013 more political prisoners in Carolina than all the United States put together. Many times more institutions in the east than in California, so it\u2019s a little bit removed from us somehow, we don\u2019t recognize how <i>oppressive<\/i> American society is in many areas, and it\u2019s bad enough if you want to look around in our ghettos. If you want to look around in some of the prison conditions even in our country, if you want to look around at the local jail, you can still find some pretty undesirable conditions. My friends, we must look around us. If we wake up out of the apathy and complacency that social and cultural and religious brainwashing has spread over the land\u2013 particularly religion always talking about pie in the sky. I\u2019ve heard that ever since I was a child, and I don\u2019t believe in no pie in the sky.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Thank you, thank you. They used to tell me that when I lived in conditions where the ice would come through \u2013 and many of us have lived worse \u2013 the ice would form icicles on our bed, and my sweet grandmother, because she didn\u2019t know any better\u2013 better would say pray. Say, look up and pray. One day I looked up and prayed and the only thing I ever got when I looked was a bit of bird manure on my forehead.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> We had better arise, we better get practical. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Jesus said today is a day of salvation (2 Corinthians 6:2, \u201cFor [Jesus] saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.\u201d),<\/span> Muhammad said it. We must seize the day. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Jesus said, if you would serve him, if you want to inherit any kind of life, he said feed the hungry, clothe the naked, release those that are oppressed and those that are in captivity (Matthew 25:34-46, also appeared on Peoples Temple letterhead).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Let us bring back\u2013 let us bring back to American society\u2013 We are hearing our radios <i>filled<\/i> with nonsense about Jesus coming. And along with it you listen to one of the great Bible spokesman I see is on 600 different radio stations, he said the nig-gra were happier in slave days. He said they\u2019re so happy over in Union of South Africa, I just came back from there, and he said they don\u2019t have the <i>trouble<\/i> problems that the American black, or he didn\u2019t say black, the nig-gra. So bad he wanted to say another word, but he couldn\u2019t quite get\u2013 come to being able to\u2013 to accept that fact or feel that the media would accept that fact. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">So let us bring that Jesus back that they\u2019re looking for, that Jesus that turned the world upside down, that Jesus that went into the house where\u2013 that was supposed to be a house of deliverance for all people and took a whip in his chan\u2013 hand and cursed the money changers out of the temples (Matthew 21:12-13, \u201cAnd Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.\u201d See also Mark 11:15-18.).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Man 1:<\/b> It\u2019s coming, ya\u2019ll\u2013 I\u2019m\u2013 All right, um, that meeting is at 1830 Sutter Street, the YWCA, 7:30 on Wednesday night to um, continue things like this happening. I have a um, a message of solidarity from a speaker that was supposed to be here that couldn\u2019t be here. Uh, Willie Brown who was assemblyperson from the 17th district. \u201cDear friends, I regret that I cannot be with you tonight to protest the deplorable situation in South Africa. You know my thoughts are with you, and that my voice will always be raised for this cause and struggle. Willie L. Brown Jr.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Part 3<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Starts mid-sentence, oratorical tone) and it will be eradicated, it will fall by its own unnatural weight. Even with ignorant people, even with ignorant religion being taught pie in the sky and the sweet by and by. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">This system is <i>bound<\/i> with its contradictions to fall <i>completely<\/i> apart. It\u2019s on the road to <i>total<\/i> disarray, and when it does, then even the ignorant church folks, when they get hungry, they\u2019ll quit talking about manna from heaven and streets of gold, they\u2019ll decide to build a little bit of heaven on Earth (John 6:31, \u201cOur fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat\u201d; Revelation 21:21, \u201c[A]nd the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s wonderful. I saw in that paper that our Sister Allen that I healed both her and her daughter of cancer, it has a minister who came out for <i>socialism<\/i>. And um, it was in the <i>Chronicle<\/i>, beg your pardon, <i>San Francisco Chronicle,<\/i> he came out for <i>socialism,<\/i> even though he still believes in all that mess about the furniture of heaven and the temperature of hell he came out for <i>socialism fully<\/i>. So more and more they\u2019re going to do this, because they\u2019re going to see hunger. When eight hundred million people are gonna die before your eyes, people\u2019re going to quit talking about how beautiful heaven must be.<\/p>\n<p><b>Scattered voices in crowd:<\/b> Right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> They\u2019re gonna be more concerned about how nasty hell is, and they\u2019re gonna do something about it. (Pause) That was a good point, <i>very<\/i> good point. Anyone else? (Pause for question from audience)<\/p>\n<p>(Tape edit)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Honkies are the only\u2013 unfortunately they\u2019re smart, they stored away and nobody will be able to get it but a Mormon. (Pause for a question from the crowd) What do you think <i>we\u2019ve<\/i> been doing?<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> You know, we wouldn\u2019t let no Mormon racist honkies beat us getting up in the morning.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I got enough wheat to drown everybody in this church tonight with wheat.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Don\u2019t tell her a thing, \u2018cause we ain\u2019t sharing our wheat with no honkies.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2013or no Uncle Toms or Aunt Janes. (Pause) Those Mormons are fearful people. They won\u2019t let black people in their temple. They\u2019re building a <i>great<\/i> monumental shrine in Washington, but no one will be able to go into it of color, won\u2019t be able to even walk in it. That\u2019s not only black, that\u2019s other races too. But those Mormons do look after their people that give so much of their <i>money<\/i>. However, if you go on <i>welfare<\/i> and cannot pay your tithes, and I mean that you have to pay it faithfully, 10% to the church, 10% to the store house. If you don\u2019t pay it, the moment you stop, you get no food, they promise you <i>nothing<\/i>. But in this church we say that each one that\u2019s in our family from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. It is a <i>shame<\/i>, a crying <i>shame<\/i>, certainly those that are going to enjoy the greatest blessings are gonna be those that give more freely in support with their time and resources. But the Mormons\u2013 the moment you quit paying, they drop you, they will have no responsibility <i>for<\/i> you. If you have a financial reverse and go into poverty or bankruptcy you don\u2019t get any assistance whatsoever. If you go into a hospital, they say it\u2019s a lack of faith on your part, you can\u2019t pay your bills, you\u2013 they don\u2019t pay your bills. Um-um [No]. They won\u2019t give you a grain to eat. Fact, that money, most of it has to be paid back. If you use anything from their storehouse, you have to pay it all back. They\u2019re an outfit that\u2019s not worthy of consideration, but at least they do have some food together to keep their ugly selves alive. (Pause) They know what time it\u2019s getting.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Now if <i>white<\/i> people \u2013 and Mormons are all white \u2013 if <i>white<\/i> people know how bad it is and are storing food in caves, then why would black people not know how bad it is?<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Any black person should see how bad it is.<\/p>\n<p>(Question from audience not audible)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Well, because of greed. You see the farmer is going broke, and he won\u2019t give it away, even though he can\u2019t pay for the calves so as you saw yesterday they killed 600, 700 calves, slit their throat, throwed them in a grave. That\u2019s a <i>crime<\/i>, when our own black people are starving in Mississippi at this moment. Another group did say they were going to send them to Honduras, those starving brothers and sisters in Honduras. But they will not set\u2013 put in on the market here because it would lower the prices. See, Big Brother controls everything. You don\u2019t want those prices to go down. So they\u2019d rather <i>kill<\/i> them and let the maggots eat them, than to have poor little black or white children be able to keep from starving. That\u2019s a <i>horrible<\/i> crime, and they\u2019re gonna <i>pay<\/i> for it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I know some of you people wish that you could dream, or prayer, or sing a song of sixpence to Jesus and hope these things would go away, but these are troubles that are <i>before<\/i> you. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">And each man and woman must work out this plan of salvation in fear and trembling\u00a0(Phillipians 2:12, \u201cWherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.\u201d)<\/span> and if you can\u2019t face reality, you\u2019re going to lose your immortal <i>soul<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Only the <i>perfect<\/i> shall enter the kingdom of righteousness in the new order of socialism (Proverbs 11:1-8), only those that are striving for <i>holiness<\/i> without any <i>spot<\/i> or <i>wrinkle<\/i>, without <i>blemish<\/i>, only they that see God will be they that have no <i>spot<\/i> or wrinkle or <i>any<\/i> such thing (Ephesians 5:27, \u201cThat he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> If you\u2019re spotted up with the love of the world, spotted up with support halfway of the racist system, you\u2019re involved with one foot in the Promised Land and one foot back here in this greedy world, you\u2019re gonna lose your soul. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">I would have you <i>hot<\/i>, sayeth God, or I would have you cold. The lukewarm I will <i>spit<\/i> out of my mouth (Revelation 3:15-16, \u201cI know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> It\u2019s wonderful, horrible but wonderful because\u2013<\/p>\n<p>(Question from audience not audible)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Well those\u2013 America is in a terrible shape. You see we\u2019re\u2013 this is going to be\u2013 that\u2019s why we need to get to the promised land, over there in the Promised Land there\u2019s oil. We\u2019re fifteen miles from the richest oil deposit in entire western hemisphere. We are <i>out<\/i> of oil, and without oil, you can\u2019t develop the kind of fertilizers and the ingredients, and nitrogen, that\u2019s necessary to <i>grow<\/i> anything. <i>Oil<\/i> is the staff of <i>life<\/i>. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">This nation is going to see the worst starvation of any nation on Earth. Even though we\u2019ve been first, the first will be last because oil is going to take the place of money (Matthew 19:30, \u201cBut many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.\u201d See also Matthew 20:16, Mark 9:35, Mark 10:31, Luke 13:30.). You see that in the Revelation where it speaks of oil and barley, bargaining with oil, measures of oil (Revelation 6:5-6, \u201cAnd when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. nd I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.\u201d).<\/span> Oil will become the <i>money<\/i> of the future society. They\u2019re going to Cuba because these socialist nations have the staff of <i>life<\/i>. Cuba has offshore oil. Cuba has <i>sugar<\/i>. We don\u2019t have any <i>sugar<\/i>. We tried to <i>starve<\/i> those people to death. We\u2019ve boycotted them, wouldn\u2019t even let them have medication, wouldn\u2019t let them have penicillin, wouldn\u2019t let them have anything to survive. Now we have to go like a whipped dog with out tail between our legs, <i>begging<\/i> them to resume trade. That\u2019s why we\u2019re over there, \u2018cause we need what they got.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Tone moderates) They survived as only the sons and daughters of God Socialism can survive. You can\u2019t survive without this spirit of Socialism. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Pentecostalism, as it was on the day of Pentecost, they had <i>all<\/i> things common. Hey, socialism, if thou will be perfect, go sell all thou hast and bring it to the apostles\u2019 feet and then it\u2019ll be distributed from each according to his ability, to each according to his need (Acts 2:44-45, \u201cAnd all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.\u201d See also 4:31-32, 34-35; Luke 18:22).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Say, I don\u2019t want to do it. And if you don\u2019t do it, you\u2019ll live with the people that\u2019ll be struggling. Y<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">our own <i>sisters<\/i> and brothers will rob your homes, will come in and <i>kill<\/i> you. Your own <i>daughters<\/i> and <i>sons<\/i> will come in and <i>rob<\/i> you over a <i>crust<\/i> of bread.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">You had better come and go with me, to find life, and life more abundantly, or your own kin will cut your throat with a dull razor to get one morsel of bread (John 10:10, \u201cThe thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Capitalism is the <i>anti-Christ<\/i>. The love of money is the root of <i>all evil<\/i>\u00a0(1 Timothy 6:10, \u201cFor the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.\u201d),<\/span> and it\u2019s going to be so perilous that you will not dream it could be so bad, because that evil system\u2013 and this is the <i>seat<\/i> of the anti-Christ, America. Capitalism\u2019s <i>seat<\/i> is here. We openly glorify our dollars. In the <i>dollar<\/i> we trust. T he <i>dollar<\/i> is our god. We openly glorify that we trust the love of money that everybody should love money. [Reverend] Ike says love money, it\u2019s the source of all light. <i>Love<\/i> it, <i>love<\/i> it, want it. Doctor Ikenhoff, Eikerenkoetter, Doctor Ikenhoff is the antichrist <i>spirit<\/i>, he and many like him, they openly say you need money. Only power you want is not people power, not power to help people, but <i>money<\/i> power, greed power, that fulfills the awful prophecy of scripture: the love of money, capitalism, the root of all evil. The antichrists are all <i>over<\/i> this nation. We are the only hope. My God, get on board little children, get on board.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Our offering was extremely short. I\u2019m going to ask a pledge offering to ask if you will stand. We must get ready. Reverend [Archie] Ijames and Brother [J.R.] Purifoy are buying a ve\u2013 a vehicle that needs to go over our waterways. Both a land truck and a water vehicle, it can just travel right out on the water to transport our foods from different parts and equipment from different parts of our Promised Land area. Money has dropped off, the offerings here have dropped to about one <i>third<\/i>. We\u2019re only getting one out of three dollars that we used to get. The depression has set in. [You] Say, well, I\u2019ve got a whole bags of money, but your money\u2013 I\u2019ve got an article here that says your money isn\u2019t worth <i>anything<\/i>. The only place it\u2019ll worth something is over there where we can get land where we <i>have<\/i> this rich resources of oil, gold, and all the food growing, even food growing <i>wild<\/i>. Your money will not\u2013 it\u2019ll be <i>devalued<\/i> one day, they\u2019ll tell you it\u2019s not worth anything. They\u2019ll call in all the money, and they\u2019ll say, we need your <i>money<\/i> and they\u2019ll give you back a new kind of currency, and it\u2019ll probably have not one-tenth the value of the money that you have. In fact of the matter, if you\u2019ve got ten dollars in the bank, even drawing five percent interest, your ten dollars, if you put it there last December, is worth <i>eight<\/i> dollars now. You see, money is worth no more than what it\u2019ll <i>buy<\/i>. [You] Say, I got my money in the bank. You think you\u2019re smart. You\u2019re a fool. [You] Say, I got my money at home. You\u2019re a <i>worse<\/i> fool.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Because at the bank, you at least get five or six percent, and you <i>still<\/i> lose money because there\u2019s a twenty percent inflation. You can\u2019t\u2013 well, you know the price of beans from 19 cents to a dollar twenty something. You know how bread has risen out, way out of staggering your imagination. So your money is worth no more than it\u2019ll buy and some of you <i>hold<\/i> onto it. Somebody come up here and started to say, oh Father, I kept my money on me and my landlady stole seventeen hundred dollars off of me, come in and got it right off of me. I said, you want me to get it back, when you should have put it where you could have saved it and it would have gotten something for you? I said it\u2019s too late. I said how many times have you told me\u00ad have you been told not to do that? Oh, he said, I don\u2019t know but he said it\u2019s just so hard, you know, said that\u2019s all I had. I said, no, all you got is your <i>Father,<\/i> and you better realize that.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> He said, well I thought she was such a good woman. She said\u2013 she even made <i>love<\/i> with me, and she said it was so <i>good<\/i>. Yeah, it was so good, because she knew where the money was and robbed him of every dime of it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> That happened here and the same thing that happened to Brother [Earl] McKnight up in San Francisco. Had money, and his landlady come in and did it to him too. Hundreds of dollars. He\u2019s a good man, I brought him out of the wheelchair. Why don\u2019t you learn that that money cannot be any more value than what it\u2019ll buy, and every day you see it buys less than the day before. So why don\u2019t you get it over there where there\u2019s <i>no<\/i> inflation, where land is going up, up, up, up, where there\u2019s <i>food<\/i> growing, where there\u2019d always be aplenty for everyone. That\u2019s where you ought to invest. I\u2019m going to ask you to stand at the first, this\u2013 this last op\u2013 opportunity. Will some of you sacrifice? There\u2019s a down number. I suppose this bus situation has not helped us through these months, through these weeks, but we\u2019ll have to just pick up the pieces and you that are faithful, will you make a special sacrifice? You heard what is necessary to protect our lives this month on Sunday, the sums of money. Is there anyone in this room that would say, Father, I will raise a thousand dollars? I don\u2019t (tape edit) out of their head when they went to the border to get to freedom. They had their gold teeth pulled out of their head and then they were throwed in boxcars and sent off to gas chambers to die. It\u2019s coming, don\u2019t you think it isn\u2019t. I wish it wasn\u2019t. If it were not so, I would\u2019ve told you, it\u2019s coming. <i>Who\u2019ll<\/i> give a thousand? (tape edit) \u2013operated on, cancer was gone, Doctor Curtis said I\u2013 I know you\u2019re one of those Jonesites\u2013 Cancer was gone. He brought his entire Church of God in. He\u2019s going back, Reverend Ijames, the black brother, is going back to get things ready and they want that boat <i>filled<\/i>. We need a lot of good records for the library there, so that our people have lovely recreation, they\u2019re working <i>hard<\/i> for us. We need little games, chess, checkers. We need sheets, blankets, canned foods, blue chip stamps. We need everything that you can bring. Gold rings, jewelry, everything that can be converted into the staff of life, food, land. Thank you. Forty-four, forty-four that was a\u2013 (tape edit) \u2013away, she\u2019ll be here Sunday, and I hope you\u2019ll be here with her [Marceline Jones]. You should never let her down.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> She carries my spirit Socialism and many healings are done when she\u2019s present as she calls them out <i>through<\/i> me, \u2018cause I know who\u2019s coming even though I am someplace else, I know who\u2019s here. So you need to be here and also you need to go with us to San Francisco this weekend, we need to be together and fill our house as much as possible in these last terrible days. So there are reservations still to be made on the bus going to San Francisco to do so. Yes?<\/p>\n<p>(Question from audience not audible)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Both.<\/p>\n<p>(Question from audience not audible)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Thank you. Forty-Four, forty-four is the number that is for our well-being and protection. It\u2019s the last opportunity, please move freely. We have helped black people, every black person that\u2019s been persecuted, prosecuted, we\u2019ve been there, so we\u2019ve done all we could to wake black America, and wake the poor of this Earth. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Now we\u2019re trying to get our people ready, so we\u2019ll be prepared to come back after the day of desolation. Desolation\u2019s gonna come at noon day (Zephaniah 1-2), the elements gonna melt with the fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10-12, \u201cBut the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?\u201d).<\/span> There\u2019ll be destruction of every city in America. Blood will flow in the streets. I want you out of the way when this comes.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> So if you walk out on this, you won\u2019t get on our beautiful boat. You can walk out of here with respect and put your hand up and tell us what you\u2019re doing, and only one on the floor at the time, we are not going to have it. And if you don\u2019t think we mean it, just mess with us and we\u2019ll show you.<\/p>\n<p><b>Crowd:<\/b> Scattered cheers and applause<\/p>\n<p><b>End of tape<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Tape originally posted March 2008<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Editor&#8217;s note: Transcript prepared by Seriina Covarrubias. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.) To return to the Tape Index, click here.\u00a0 To return to the Annotated Sermons page,\u00a0click here. To read the Tape Summary, click here. To read Tape Transcript,\u00a0click here. To listen to MP3, click here. 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