{"id":63276,"date":"2015-03-05T02:53:58","date_gmt":"2015-03-05T02:53:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=63276"},"modified":"2023-07-11T17:09:49","modified_gmt":"2023-07-12T00:09:49","slug":"annotated-transcript-q1032","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=63276","title":{"rendered":"Annotated Transcript Q1032"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here.<\/a><br \/>\nTo return to the Annotated Sermons page,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=29177\">click here<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo read the Tape Summary, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28019\">click here<\/a>.\u00a0To read Tape Transcript,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=27315\">click here<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo listen to MP3, <a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q1032.MP3\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> \u2014is upon them. Hmm? Anyone? (Pause) Oh, I\u2019m just telling you what\u2019s in there. And if it\u2019s in the New Testament, it\u2019s in the Old [Testament]. Then whenever you go, you find it. Say, well, how do you know what\u2019s good from\u2014 ri\u2014 right\u2014 right from wrong. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">That\u2019s how you have to have a preacher that\u2019s sent from God. How can you hear without a preacher? How can he preach, lest he be sent? How do you know he\u2019s sent? He\u2019ll have these supernatural gifts, but more than that, he\u2019ll have a supernatural love. He\u2019ll have the <i>fruits<\/i> of the spirit and the <i>gifts<\/i> of the spirit. Said, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. The word of God\u2019s not written, it didn\u2019t say faith cometh by reading, it says faith cometh by hearing. Listening (Romans 10:14-17: &#8220;How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? \u2026 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.&#8221;).<\/span> (Pause) <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">That\u2019s why it said in the last days, there\u2019ll be a famine for the hearing of the word (Amos 8:11: &#8220;Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD.&#8221;).<\/span> Folk walk out. They won\u2019t hear it. Radio stations won\u2019t let me preach this. (Cries out) Why are they so afraid? Why? Why the wo\u2014 the station manager at\u2014 at San Francisco told us, he said, I <i>know<\/i> it\u2019s true. WIBC in Indianapolis says, I <i>know<\/i> it\u2019s true, but he said, they would burn my building down if you preached it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> In fact, I was on WIBC\u2014 (Pause) I was <i>on<\/i> WIBC a while, and that man came to me in tears. He said, they\u2019ve gone to every advertiser, and threatened that they\u2019ll not buy their products, and they\u2019ve threatened to blow this place up. (Tone moderates) He said, we\u2019ve got to cancel your broadcast. And he took my hand with tears in his eyes, and he said, I never will go to another church in my life. He said, they\u2019ve said the <i>meanest<\/i>, ugliest, damnablest things over this phone to me that I\u2019ve ever heard, and then they quote scripture and speak in tongues to me. Hmm. Yes, yes, yes, I know. (Pause) In the first place about some of these who walking out of here like that, and the woman up there walked out in hu\u2014\u00a0her silver tresses, (Pause) they walk out of here not believing the Bible themselves.<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"> \u2018Cause the Bible says, let the women keep silent in all the churches. \u2018Cause Paul, according to King James, he interpreted Paul, and he didn\u2019t like women, so he said, let the women keep silent in all the churches. Said, suffer not a woman to teach. If she wants to learn anything, let her go home and ask her husband \u00a0(1 Corinthians 14:34-35, \u201cLet your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.\u201d Also, 1 Timothy 2:12, \u201cBut I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.\u201d).<\/span> If he isn\u2019t <i>dead<\/i>. Or if she can find him. If the system hasn\u2019t already <i>killed<\/i> him. Let her go home, find him. Now I know it\u2019s harder for some of you white people to identify with this than it is for black people. But they\u2019re giving you the same road.<\/p>\n<p><b>Single voice: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> (Voice rises) You had to fight today\u2014 Your president [Richard Nixon] didn\u2019t want to give you a little bit of benefit increase of Social Security. They had to fight. He didn\u2019t want to give you enough, and you can\u2019t hardly live now. If you get sick and go to hospital, you wait for five hours in the emergency ward. <a href=\"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=123138\">Some of you whites are just as much of a nigger as I am.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cries<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>They got our eyes in the sky. Why, I\u2019ve got the pictures up here \u2014 I won\u2019t go into it now \u2014 of the <i>internment<\/i> camps under Title II of the McCarran Act that they\u2019re gonna put <i>anybody<\/i> in that protest or subverts religion or the institutions of this society. That\u2019s why old Hubert Horatio [Humphrey] never gonna get my vote, \u2018cause <i>he\u2019s<\/i> the one the put that thing into being, and there\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=60990\">concentration camps<\/a> right now at Allenwood, Pennsylvania, Tulelake (unintelligible word) California, they\u2019re in Greenville, South Carolina, and Montgomery \u2014 I\u2019m naming the places \u2014 Wickenburg, Arizona, the\u2014 Tucson, outside of Tucson, there\u2019s one McNeil Isle in Washington, (in full throat) already ready for fools like us that got our head in the black book and think we\u2019re gonna fly away. They\u2019re gonna put us in hell while we\u2019re looking for silver streets.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cries<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Moderates tone) Comin\u2019 all the time. Come round the corner this week, the Supreme Court said, a newspaper cannot print anything and keep their sources secret. They\u2019ve got to give to a grand jury\u2014 they give you a little thing, you say, oho, great, great, great day. No capital punishment. Didn\u2019t say that at all. Says capital punishment will not be applied to the na\u2014\u00a0the\u2014 the people that are presently in sentence. But it leaves to the <i>state<\/i> and encouraged\u2014\u00a0one dissenting opinion encourages the state to set aside capital punishment for those who are guilty of political crimes. (Voice rises) And a political crime is whoever is in the head at the time. George Washington was just a stone\u2019s throw from being called a traitor. He happened to win, and we call him the Father of the country, but if they\u2019d lost, they\u2019da burned him at the stake. So whoever they want to call the political (voice softens) crime will be murdered. And everybody jump up, (unintelligible rush) no more of us gone get killed now. (Pause) Same day they hand\u2014 they sent down that decision, they said a newspaper cannot now\u2014\u00a0a reporter has to tell where he gets his information. You know what that\u2019s gone do? (Pause) You know what that\u2019s gone do? What if you know some Mafia that\u2019s pushing drugs in your neighborhood, and killing your kids. (Voice rises) You\u2019re gonna tell on them, when that newspaper\u2019s got to bring you before the grand jury? (Pause) Are you gonna tell, when you know some Murder Incorporated? What kind of a mother\u2019s gonna risk her life to tell a reporter? (In full throat) They\u2019re gonna fix it up now so Mafia\u2014\u00a0(Voice moderates) And everybody thought <i>The Godfather<\/i> was a big picture. I wanted to <i>vomit<\/i>. It was another one of the schemes of the system to glorify the Murder Incorporateds in America, make the big ol\u2019\u2014\u00a0make uh, the godfather look so nice. Shootin\u2019 people in their sleep, having people in their baptism and shootin\u2019 \u2018em down in the doorways, killin\u2019 every breath, cuttin\u2019 people\u2019s\u2014 knives went through their hands, and making them look like they\u2019re ordinary people. When you got through with the godfather, you liked him, didn\u2019t you? Yes, <i>you did<\/i>, most of the people that saw <i>The Godfather<\/i> kinda like him. Kinda liked him, because it made him\u2014 he liked his kids. (In full throat) And that\u2019s what they want you to do, to like the rich rulers, the bankers, the international capitalists, the Mafia, they want to brainwash you, so you\u2019ll like your enemies, and let them kill you even further.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Response<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Voice moderates) Right now in San Francisco, fifteen people have been murdered by the Mafia. The mayor [Joseph Alioto] says they\u2019re gonna have to have a national emergency, a sta\u2014\u00a0uh, a city emergency, \u2018cause we got to get into what\u2019s going on. (Pause) There\u2019s that old stinkin\u2019 (unintelligible word). (Laughs) (Pause) It\u2019s not stinking because the person that was so brave to give it to me, sweet in that sense, that she got saved, think of her being saved so much, but look at that, look at that. Just\u2014\u00a0just take it up and down the aisle. (Pause) Gold. And there\u2019s a hundred thousand of them in this town. (Voice rises) We got no <i>food<\/i>, we got no medicines, but we got <i>gold<\/i>, honey. We got <i>crosses<\/i>, we got sheribims and sheraphims (Pause) up and down the town today, in the choirs of us nigger churches, all us niggers. We\u2019re tryin\u2019 to act like we\u2019re <i>free<\/i>, and we\u2019re not going to get free with choir robes, we\u2019re gonna get free when we put our money together and build hospitals, and build factories, and build mills, and build farms, and build homes, and build schools, and get together. (Voice drops) Did you hear me? You know it\u2019s the truth. (Pause) You know what I\u2019m saying is the truth. (Pause) Take a lot for that woman to get converted and give that up. Most folk won\u2019t do it. They got too much\u2014\u00a0She had\u2014\u00a0She uh\u2014 Her treasure wasn\u2019t too big for her, but most people, when they get a treasure like that, they\u2019re not gonna give it up. (Cries out) [That\u2019s] Why a lot of you won\u2019t listen to me. You\u2019re thinkin\u2019 about (voice drops) how good you look with those white gloves. (Voice cries) You know your preacher\u2019s a whoremonger. You know he\u2019s a rotten pimp. But you like to stand out there in the aisles, you like to look good with your white gloves. You\u2019re afraid you\u2019re gonna give up something. You look like somebody. But you\u2019re nobody. When you get old, he\u2019ll spit on you, you won\u2019t count for a dime.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cries<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Voice moderates) Don\u2019t tell me, sister Ethel Taylor belonged to a Baptist church there, Missionary Baptist Church in San Francisco, and all her life, she\u2019d been on the usher board. She was the <i>head<\/i> of the usher board. But she got trouble, she got in an accident, crippled this leg. (Pause) She couldn\u2019t afford her apartment, and they kicked her out. She called up her preacher. She\u2019d been on that usher board, she\u2019d scrounged and cleaned and worked, and she bought him one car herself personally, he said to her, (fake minister voice) &#8220;Trust the Lord.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter and cries<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>I never met her, but some neighbor told me about [her], and I got her a home in three hours. I had her a home. (In full throat) You are a bunch of silly people. You\u2019ve got nothing to lose but your chains. That\u2019s all you\u2019ve got to do, is to lose your chains. Get the chains off your mind. Get free. Be free. Whom the spirit set free, is free indeed.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Moderates voice) Got nothing to lose. You\u2019re glorifying the very man, King James that pu\u2014 (Aside) Take that thing out of my face, I\u2019ve seen enough of it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>It\u2019s beautiful, somebody helped us out, because if that sister don\u2019t object, I\u2019m gonna auction that off. Some jackleg\u2019ll buy that, he\u2019ll by that quick.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Breathes heavily) All right. (Pause) All right. Yeah? (Pause) They come to hear long enough, what I had to say. They wanted to spy out my liberty. Well, I\u2019m not minding\u2014 Listen. I\u2019m not minding what you got in store for me. (Pause) I remember when old [Henry David] Thoreau, who preached the errors of the Bible, he wrote <i>Walden<\/i>, you know. He\u2014\u00a0One of our great writers. We tell all these great things about him, but we don\u2019t preet all\u2014\u00a0print all their books. They throwed him in <i>jail<\/i>, (Pause) \u2018cause he wouldn\u2019t pay not taxes for war, for slavery. Said, I\u2019m not paying no taxes for slavery. They throwed him in <i>jail<\/i>. Old Thoreau was there reading some book about peace, and up come [Ralph Waldo] Emerson, the big preacher, Reverend Emerson come up and he says, said, &#8220;<i>Dave<\/i>,&#8221; he said, &#8220;David, what are you doing in jail?&#8221; Thoreau looked up through the bars and said, &#8220;Emerson, what are you doing outside of jail?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>And that\u2019s the way I <i>feel<\/i> today. (Pause) (Ministerial cadence) So we don\u2019t worry about me. I only live one day at a time. It\u2019s not too present, because I got babies that I want to rear. I\u2019ve got all this family I want to protect. But I only live one day at a time. And somehow the moon looks prettier. And the <i>sun shines<\/i> brighter. And those I love look more beautiful, because I only live <i>one<\/i> day at a time. Because I know the price of <i>truth<\/i> may be one day, that I\u2019ll have to lay down my life, but I\u2019m not afraid to lay down my life for my brethren.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Normal tone) Not afraid. I lost that fear someplace. Someplace I lost it. And I\u2019m a freer person because of it. And I\u2019da died, when they shot me, if I\u2019da been afraid of dyin\u2019. If I had tried to keep my life, I\u2019da lost it. If you try to lose your life, you find it. If you try to keep it, and you\u2019ll lose it. (Pause) I just take one day at a time. And that\u2019s the price of truth. Now those of you who are doubtin\u2019, you watch the attendance. The first meeting we had here, they were <i>packed<\/i> in the aisles, down the seats, on uh, the seats over there, down the chairs, standin\u2019 in the back. There was\u2014 This place was packed. (Pause) (Short laugh) And it\u2019da stayed packed, if I just healed the sick.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Voice rises) Everybody loves somebody that can cause the cripple to walk. Everybody loves somebody that can cause a woman like this that couldn\u2019t see. You can see me now, can\u2019t you, Janie?<\/p>\n<p><b>Janie:<\/b> Yes, indeed.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>How many fingers I got up, now, Janie?<\/p>\n<p><b>Another voice:<\/b> (unintelligible)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Normal tone) Yeah, that\u2019s right. All right. Well, you missed it by one. You <i>missed<\/i> it, Janie. But you could\u2014\u00a0you\u2014 you couldn\u2019t see at <i>all<\/i>. What\u2014 What have I got in my hand? (Pause) She was totally blind. A book. That\u2019s what I got. A book. That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right. See, that\u2019s amazing. She couldn\u2019t see <i>anything<\/i>. That right, Janie?<\/p>\n<p><b>Janie:<\/b> Sure!<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Fifteen years\u2014 (unintelligible under Janie with microphone)<\/p>\n<p><b>Janie:<\/b> Everything you <i>say<\/i> is right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> All right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and affirmation<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Totally blind. Everybody likes somebody that can get you some sight when you\u2019re totally blind. Everybody likes somebody that can cause you to walk when you can\u2019t walk. Everybody likes to get rid of cancer. Everybody likes you, like this Willie Bryant there, that was\u2014 who\u2014\u00a0I told him to go back to the hospital, and they\u2019ll find no cancer, and it was all <i>gone<\/i>. He\u2019d been operated and operated. Everybody like you, like that little child dying, they want their children healed. If I\u2019d do that, you\u2019d have to have the Shrine Auditorium for me.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>But the trouble is, the rub comes in, is because I\u2019ve preached the truth. Another rubs comes in: I won\u2019t let anybody buy me. Do you know of the people that come up there, want to give me a thousand dollars, somebody right back here settin\u2019 in the row, says, I\u2019ll give him a thousand dollars, he come back and takes it in m\u2014 his hand. I said, I don\u2019t take a thou\u2014 one dollar in my hand, so why should I take a thousand dollars in my hand?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>She kept her thousand. (Pause) I\u2019m not startin\u2019 it. (Cries out) No! You just as much a nigger as me, if you got a thousand, you probably just out (unintelligible word: &#8220;cooked&#8221;? &#8220;crooked?&#8221;) somebody, that\u2019s the only reason you have a thousand.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and calls<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Or you had a few breaks. Say, I worked hard. Well, you coulda been (Voice drops) unfortunate like someone in here that was born blind or born crippled. So don\u2019t think\u2014 don\u2019t be too cocky. It\u2019s just the breaks. Just the breaks. (Pause) Well, I love you, and that\u2019s why I gave you the truth, because it\u2019s costly. It\u2019s costly. It\u2019s costly. (Pause) \u2018Cause every enemy gets after me, they sic everybody on us. In Seattle, they <i>sicced<\/i> the fire department on us. Fire chief said I\u2014 I don\u2019t want to bother you people. Said, I\u2019ve been called five times. (Pause) Said, you gots the wrong kind of seat in here. They sicced\u2014\u00a0They\u2019ve sicced every kind of official on us, <i>every<\/i> place, everywhere. They won\u2019t rent buildings to us, Crouch Temple Church of God in Christ, minister came out and he\u2014 I\u2014\u00a0minister said, give me some money under the table, and if I\u2014 he\u2019d give me a little money on the side, I might be able to help you. I said, no, I said, I\u2019ll never be back here, I said, you not gettin\u2019 none of my money. I knew what he was tryin\u2019 to do. He was tryin\u2019 to get that money. And he knew I wasn\u2019t coming back. What was his name? (Pause) No, no, it wasn\u2019t Reverend Krause [phonetic] who did that. Dickey. Hickey. Or whatever. (Pause) Don\u2019t say he didn\u2019t do it, he sure did it. (Pause) He can sue me if it\u2019s not true. I said, no, I said, the brothers will never get back in this building, they\u2019ll never let us back, and Crouch Temple never let us back. (Voice rises) What are they afraid of? They got so much God, what are they afraid of? If you\u2019ve got so much God, why are you afraid of this little ol\u2019 nigger Indian? If you\u2019ve got so much truth in you, why are you afraid to hear me? Isn\u2019t it all right, in America, there\u2019s supposed to be freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, I\u2019m supposed to be able to rent a building, that building\u2019s supposed to be rented to anybody that wants to rent it. I could take him to court if I wanted to. I could make those folks stop renting that building to anybody, because when you discriminate to one group of people\u2014 I\u2019ve never been arrested for anything, I\u2019ve never violated any laws, when <i>I<\/i> get arrested, it\u2019ll be when this country is taken over by dictatorship, (Pause) (Voice moderates) \u2018cause I\u2019m not wasting any time getting\u2019 drunk or chasin\u2019 any women. Nobody gone shoot me in their bed with anybody\u2019s wife, \u2018cause I\u2019m not gone be there.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>And that\u2019s where most of your preachers have been. Many a time, honey, I can tell you, many a time. The head of the Baptist Alliance, right\u2014\u00a0Doctor George Bedford right here, tried to get two of my young girls in\u2014 in the bedroom. (Pause) Let him sue me, if it\u2019s not true. Doctor George L. Bedford, Pastor, Macedonia Avenue Baptist Church, Macedonia Baptist Church on Sutter Avenue, the biggest Baptist church in California. Don\u2019t tell me he didn\u2019t do it, he did it.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Aside) Hold it, just hold it there for me, little brother. (Back to congregation) This little brother was, by the way, <i>paralyzed<\/i> from the waist down. Waist down. He fell off a cliff. I ran to him barefooted, and when I touched him, he started walking, that\u2019s why he\u2019s been a faithful little companion.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>He fell off a cliff, way like up some of there. Cliff\u2014 I mean, you look at the cliff behind our church, you can see what it is, how high it is, way back at the back acreage. Well, that\u2019s neither here nor there. (Pause) Only reason I mention healings is \u2018cause some of you folk wouldn\u2019t sit here five minutes for the truth. Mmm-mmm [No]. You wouldn\u2019t come across the street to hear the truth. I <i>know<\/i> I don\u2019t have enough polish to draw you. Honesty is not enough polish. Straight ol\u2019 truth\u2019s not enough. It\u2019s the fact that I have got an extraordinary gift of healing. That\u2019s why you\u2019re here. (Voice rises) And some of you going to endure it, hopin\u2019 that I\u2019ll be finished pretty soon, so that I can come up and down the aisle, and somebody can pull on me here and pull on me there, and I\u2019ll be just like a piece of beef, pulled out, pulled in, pulled on\u2014<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Moderates) Don\u2019t bother him. Uh\u2014 I told you about old dogs, they can\u2019t\u2014 le\u2014\u00a0let him growl. Come on. (Pause) (In full throat) All you\u2019re waitin\u2019 on. You haven\u2019t heard a word I said. You\u2019re waiting on (draws out word) me-e-e-e-e, so I can heal you, so I can get you well, but you won\u2019t let me give you the thing that raised me up. I\u2019ve been raised from the dead. Doctor Earl Thomas can tell you, I was healed 17 years ago, when he said I was gonna die of cancer. What healed me? (Voice drops) I looked at my babies that I\u2019d adopted. I didn\u2019t asked to be healed. I said, who\u2019s going to raise them? And a glow came within me. (Pause) I said, I\u2019m well. Eva Pugh, who\u2019s been healed of arthritis, couldn\u2019t\u2014\u00a0had to take cortisone to\u2014\u00a0her medicine every day, I healed her. She\u2019s our treasurer now. In advanced years. Her husband [James Pugh] was dying of cancer, [I] healed him. (Pause) Where\u2019re you going? (Pause) One of you. One of you need to stick around. Gertrude, better tell him, he needs to stick around. (Clucks disapproval) (Pause) (Calls out) All right, all right, I know when you\u2019re coming and going. (Pause) (Normal tone) Seven out of the ten, probably, at least, or three out of four, who\u2019ve walked out of here, either had some impending disaster, or some sickness. (Pause) The worst ones that I said that needed me, have walked out. But they\u2014 they think they don\u2019t need me, so that\u2019s their problem, I guess. I can\u2019t do anything about it. (Pause) My, my, my. My, my, my. (Pause) <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">I feel like Jesus felt when he looked over Jerusalem. Every row I go back, I see several folks sleeping. (Pause) He said, Jerusalem, Jerusalem, how oft I would have gathered you, like a brood, doth are chickens under the wings, and you would not (Luke 13:34: &#8220;O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!&#8221;).<\/span> (Pause) Los Angeles, Los Angeles, how I\u2019d like to take you. \u2018Cause I know the day and the hour, when part of this whole California\u2019s gonna drop right into the sea. The minute. I know the day when bombs are going to burst in A. Lest in the very air, uh\u2014\u00a0the minute, the second, the day, the year, has already been given. (Irritated aside) Move them quietly, please. Lives are at stake. (Pause) (Back to congregation) It\u2019s my orders that they get, uh, little fellows fed. That\u2019s why we put a pool for them. They try to save our children. We\u2019ve lost none of them thus far. Never had a child arrested. So I can\u2019t be as bad as you\u2019re trying to make me. Never had a child in trouble. Never had one that ever grow up\u2014\u00a0grew up to be a prostitute or be a drunk. Never had one. Never one grow up in my family\u2014\u00a0and I\u2019ve had\u2014 that organist was a child when she was with me, and that child was burned by a religionist that threw grease on her. (Pause) Threw grease on her, and I saved her. She\u2019da died, burned alive. They were babies when I started, babies. They\u2019ve been with me all that long, and never one of them been arrested, never one of them taking drugs, never one of them ever used alcohol, (Cries out) never one of them.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>So what I\u2019m doing must not be all that bad. And I have got me my own Indian religion, that\u2019s what I got, (Voice moderates) that\u2019s what doing it. (Pause) My own Indian brand of Christ. (Pause) It\u2019s so wonderful. It\u2019s so wonderful. Where will you go? Where will you go? Where will you go? In order to get you to build a kingdom of heaven on earth, I\u2019ve got to tear up things that I <i>hate<\/i> to tear up. I don\u2019t like to even do it, because I don\u2019t like to see the anguish in your faces. (Deliberate) But where are you going to go? Everything in your book is messed up. (Pause) You\u2019re not going to be able to get straight unless you have a straight person. [You] Say, how do I know a straight person? Follow the one that\u2019s got the most love. If you find somebody else with more loving than me, that adopts more children, takes in more older people, washes more of their backs, goes in with their han\u2014\u00a0his hands and breaks up more of their bowel impactions\u2014 (Pause) (Unintelligible word) takes their wounded bruises, gives them their\u2014 their medicines, their vitamins, provides nice homes. If you find anybody that does any more \u2014\u00a0goes to any more courts \u2014\u00a0than I do, you follow them. That\u2019s the place for you to go, to follow them. (Hurriedly) That\u2019s a (unintelligible word: &#8220;tough&#8221;?) place for you to go to follow them. (Cries out) I\u2019m going to give you a last bombshell. (Calmer) \u2018Cause if you don\u2019t know in that Bible, that (Voice rises) it\u2014 it\u2019s not straight about who Jesus is. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">It\u2019s not straight about where he ascended from. One place says, that there was\u2014 all the thieves railed on him. Another place, it says, only one railed on him. And the other ones rebuked the other thief and said\u2014\u00a0Jesus said, this day, you will be with me in Paradise. One place it says that Jesus (stumbles over words) was crucified the third hour, and the other [the] sixth hour, one place it says that he was three days in the belly of the earth, the other place he said he died Friday and rose Sunday, that\u2019s a day and a half\u00a0(Crucifixion accounts in Mark, esp. 15:24-28, compared with Luke, esp. 23:39-44)<\/span>\u2014 (In full throat) You don\u2019t know anything about that book.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Reacts<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Calms, then rises throughout) <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">In here it tells the awful things, it says, slaves, obey your masters. You don\u2019t believe that. Thank goodness, you didn\u2019t. Or you\u2019d still be in chains. That\u2019s why they wrote it, though, to keep you like that\u2014\u00a0That\u2019s why they made you a Baptist and chained you to the chair, so that you\u2019d be good. They wanted you to be a good field\u2014\u00a0good field Negroes. You know in the old days, there were the house niggers, and there were the field niggers. They wanted to get you to be a good house nigger, to say, &#8220;Yes, Master,&#8221; &#8220;No, Master.&#8221; (Pause) &#8220;Thank you, Master.&#8221; &#8220;Thank you, Lord.&#8221; You want to know why I didn\u2019t believe (unintelligible word) want to say Lord? Lord means the owner of slaves. I don\u2019t\u2014 I\u2019m not a slave for anybody. I don\u2019t want to serve anybody that is a slave owner (Colossians 3:22: &#8220;Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God.&#8221; See also, Ephesians 6:5, Titus 2:9).<\/span> The word Lord is not the original translation. God means good. Lord means the owner of a feudal state, or the owner of slaves, so I will never use the word Lord, never! (Pause) (Calms) Never. Never. You\u2019ll never get me to use it. Every place a song says it, I say God. (Pause) (Casual) Lost two more on that one. (Pause)<\/p>\n<p><b>Single voice: <\/b>Thank you, Father.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Yes. You say, say Jim Jones, Jim Jones, Jim Jones. (Pause) Jim Jones. Why they speak of your works, and they don\u2019t speak of the Lord\u2019s works, and they talk all about this and that, and they don\u2019t give the glory to the Lord. (Pause) Where is the Lord? (Pause) Has he come along lately?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>You\u2019d better listen now. (Pause) Has he come along lately? The story tells you about a God. You wouldn\u2019t know there <i>was<\/i> a God, if I wasn\u2019t walkin\u2019, or some sweet soul was walkin\u2019. You wouldn\u2019t know there <i>was<\/i> anything good. Somebody had to <i>show<\/i> you that there was love in the earth, or you would never have seen it. You sure didn\u2019t see it through no book, and in most preachers, you didn\u2019t see it through. If you studied them closely. (Pause) In the beginning, it says, was God. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">(Extended discussion of creation stories in Genesis, Chapters 1 and 2)<b>\u00a0<\/b><\/span>This same book, but it tells you that he made the earth in seven days, and then there\u2019s a difference in stories on that. There\u2019s two creation stories, one right after another. The two chapters, and they disagree. One place he makes one thing first, another thing second, and then it\u2014\u00a0it disagrees in the second chapter with what he did. You never know what he did make. You got things growing before the sun (Voice rises to shout) shines. Keep on walkin\u2019, keep on walkin\u2019, I\u2019m gonna keep on preachin\u2019. When you set down and will listen to something that\u2019ll get your head straight, I\u2019ll shut up.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Scattered cries<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Calms, then rises throughout) I didn\u2019t preach at all yesterday, just healed the sick. (Pause) Just one after another, healed the sick, healed the sick, healed the sick, healed the sick. But I know that some of these sicknesses can\u2019t get healed unless you get the healing of the mind. Because when you see God in me, that\u2019s when it\u2019s going to be reproduced in you. When you see the works in me, it\u2019ll be reproduced in you. When you can see the hope of the world here, it\u2019s in the body now.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Scattered cries<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Pause) (Calm) Said, in the beginning\u2014 (Draws out phrase) In the beginning, there was God. And he looked over the vast theme of time, Billy Graham says, and every church says it, Presbyterian, Baptist, Pentecostal, said God made\u2014 off in the beginning, up in the skies, he looked out <i>over<\/i> the spaces, and he was lonely. (Pause) (Unintelligible word), that\u2019s what they tell you. He was lonely. Somebody back there said, they say <i>you\u2019re the Maker<\/i>. I said, No, I\u2019m a <i>savior<\/i>. But I didn\u2019t make you. (Pause) (Ministerial cadence) A savior means somebody that takes people in, somebody that takes them out when they\u2019re drowning, somebody that feeds them when they\u2019re hungry, yes, but I didn\u2019t put you in this hell. (Pause) (Calms) I said, you don\u2019t get me confused with that. (Stumbles over words) This\u2019ll\u2014 this\u2019ll\u2014 This\u2019ll bound you, if you get this one. (Pause) Then you\u2019ll get up there\u2014 you\u2019ll get someplace, you don\u2019t want to work with me, you\u2019ll get someplace and try to build a heaven here, because you know that all the reason they been telling you about a heaven up there is to keep you\u2014 be quiet down here.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Scattered laughter and calls<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>All right, now they\u2019re\u2014 they\u2019re feeding you all this mess and these foods. If you didn\u2019t have me, you wouldn\u2019t know. If I wasn\u2019t raising organic foods, some folks, I\u2019ve cha\u2014 changed two or three hundred lives, because of changing diets and vitamins and foods, \u2018cause they\u2019re puttin\u2019\u2014 even the f\u2014 <i>government<\/i> report said that you\u2019re eating rats and mice and cockroaches ground up in every hamburger.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Voice rises) And every one of the preservatives in your <i>food<\/i>, they\u2019re cancer-causing. Every time you see monosodium glutamate, every time you see some of these (unintelligible word), every time you see these things, they\u2019re eating your body up, they won\u2019t feed \u2018em to the rich. (Pause) The rich don\u2019t eat \u2018em. Mmm-mmm. Just us poor peons. (Pause) (Moderates) Just us poor folk. \u2018Cause you said, (fake gibberish of woman in ecstasy), &#8220;One day, hallelujah, I\u2019m waiting for the great big round-up, he gone\u2014 Gabriel gonna come on and go (high tooting), and I\u2019m gonna go <i>sailin\u2019<\/i> away, hallelujah, by and by, when the mornin\u2019 comes, when all the saints of God are\u2014&#8221; (Pause) You\u2019d like to shut me up, but you haven\u2019t got enough power, not one of you got enough to shut me up, \u2018cause in this room, I\u2019ve already paid the rent. And it was high.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>The city of Los Angeles owns this building, and they\u2019ve rented it to socialists and communists and everybody else, so they gotta let me talk in here. It\u2019s one place you can\u2019t stop me from talking.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p>(Pause)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Laughs) When you get ready to repent, too, that sister over there that put that little pinch of dust out there, he\u2019d thought I\u2019d walked on. That why you got your\u2014 that\u2019s why you\u2019re feeling that <i>burning<\/i> in the lower section of your posterior. That\u2019s why you\u2019re <i>burning<\/i> right now.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter and cries<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Cries out) It takes bigger than you to shut me. They\u2019ve come with their guns, and they\u2019ve shot through the windows, and the windows were riddled, but I was still standing. Just two weeks ago, they shot into my congregation, but I stopped every bullet, not one was hurt, not one was hurt.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and cries<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Moderates tone, but intense) Now you see what your Skygod can do for you. (Pause) I tried that Skygod. I said, don\u2019t let my granddaddy <i>die<\/i>. He was a good man, all of his <i>days<\/i>, been good to people, old white-haired black, brown, dark, Indian\u2014 (Pause) Tall and stately. He died, worse than a snake would have to die. Eight hours, while the doctor was over attending a rich man\u2019s carbuncle. So I quit looking up then, I started looking within. And ever since then, nobody\u2019s died in my presence. My black son [James Jones Jr.] that I adopted, Doctor Curtis can tell you, his kidneys were severed, his heart was crushed, his lungs were crushed, but I just spoke the word\u2014 where is Jim around, he\u2019s around here someplace. He\u2019s around here helping me someplace. He\u2019s very much alive now. My uh, my natural born son [Stephan Jones], the same thing, brought him back from a situation they said it couldn\u2019t be cured. Said, the judgment of God, folks said, the judgment of God. I said, I\u2019ll show \u2018em. (Pause) I\u2019ve raised him up, all my children are healthy, and in good state, fit fiddle\u2014\u00a0fit as a fiddle. (Pause) All right now. (Pause) I\u2019ll try to close this in ten minutes, if you will sit down long enough to listen. (Pause) What you want all these pictures for? You\u2019re going to run out of a market.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Cries out) \u2018Cause folk won\u2019t buy this when they get what I\u2019m sayin\u2019. I\u2019ll put you\u2014 yes, they give him up to <i>die<\/i> with kidney trouble, I healed him. (Pause) I said, to you, didn\u2019t I say, it\u2019d be all right? Doctors said it wouldn\u2019t work, didn\u2019t I say it\u2019d be all right?<\/p>\n<p><b>Single voice:<\/b> Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Scattered applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Laughs) You sh\u2014\u00a0you show my what your God. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">I\u2019m like Elisha of old, that Jews talk about in the old history books. He said, let the God that\u2019s God answer by fire. Until you can get something that\u2019s doing work for\u2014\u00a0for you, work that I\u2019m doing for the people, then why don\u2019t you try me?\u00a0(2 Kings 6:17: \u201cAnd Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.\u201d)<\/span> Why don\u2019t you try my spirit? Why don\u2019t you touch and taste and see that it is good?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Calms) Why, the dead\u2014\u00a0Nobody\u2019s ever died in my presence since then. 28 plus\u2014\u00a029 today, and she\u2019s still setting back there. 29. (Pause) (Aside) If she wants to eat, so she don\u2019t have to\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Voice too quiet<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> Hands clasped. They\u2019re gettin\u2019 some of the senior citizens to eat. We gotta get on our road, after the healing meeting. (Aside, unintelligible) (Back to congregation) Now we\u2019re back\u2014 back to the point. (Pause) (Aside), Oh well, that\u2019s fine. (Back to congregation) There\u2019s my Jim that was dead on the highway.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Cries of concern<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>And he told you, when you get sick, who do you call on? &#8220;You, Dad,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>He said, &#8220;You, Dad.&#8221; He don\u2019t look dead now.<\/p>\n<p><b>One voice: <\/b>No<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>His kidneys are\u2014 (tape silence for ten seconds) Kerry Ross, would you go to the back of the building. There\u2019s something that they need to tell you\u2014 someone needs to talk to you at the back of the building. Kerry Ross. (Pause) All right. (Pause) I want to uh, conclude this little chapter. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">I\u2019ve shown you that they don\u2019t know who Jesus\u2019 grandparents are. I\u2019ve shown you that the Gospels disagree as to how many grandparents he had (Matthew 1:1-16 compared with Luke 3:23-34).<\/span> I\u2019ve shown you that they can\u2019t even agree what happened to him. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Said when he was baptized, one writer said that he immediately went for forty days into the wilderness. And forty nights. And he saw no one but the devil. Said he was tempted by the devil. Raised up to a high pinnacle on the temple. There\u2019s no pinnacles in temples. I don\u2019t know whether you know that or not, but they don\u2019t happen to be any pinnacles in temples. Well anyway, the other writer says (unintelligible word) three days after the wilder\u2014 after he was baptized and the doves settled on him, he was over having a good time in Galilee, turn the water into wine (Matthew 4:1-10, compared with John 1:29-2:10).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>One voice: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Now, come on, now. Which is right? (Pause) Which is right? Both of them saying two different things. (Pause) (Short laugh) I got\u2014 I\u2019ve got to quit this, I can\u2019t get through to folk. I get the\u2014<\/p>\n<p>Voice unintelligible<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> You know what somebody just got through sayin\u2019 to me? (Fake voice) &#8220;Every word in the book is true.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Normal voice, calls out) There\u2019s no use tryin\u2019. (Conversational tone) Imagine how after all I\u2019ve finished saying, someone gonna talk to me, &#8220;Every word in the book is true.&#8221; (Pause) I changed the word just a little bit so it wouldn\u2019t embarrass the person, \u2018cause I don\u2019t want to embarrass anybody. But that\u2019s just exactly the essential of what she said. I don\u2019t want to embarrass anybody. (Pause) Now, in the beginning, it said God made man, because he was lonely. And then he got him a man, he wasn\u2019t\u2014\u00a0the man wasn\u2019t satisfied, so he took a\u2014\u00a0out of the rib of the man\u2014 (clicks tongue) he took a rib and made a woman. That\u2019s why they been treatin\u2019 a woman like a rib ever since, too.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Mmm-hmm. That\u2019s why women don\u2019t have their rights to this day, \u2018cause women? Let the man be the head of the house. Let the man do this (unintelligible word fragment)\u2014 <i>Obey<\/i>. You know, obey. \u2018Course most of you women don\u2019t\u2014\u00a0you never believe that, \u2019cause\u2014 (laughs)<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Look, I know how some of the\u2014\u00a0the\u2014\u00a0some of the men quote it too, as I was telling you. Children that were practically starving to death that I saved up here, the Cobb children, now one of them\u2019s going to be a doctor, that I gave him his education. (Pause) He\u2014 He\u2019d get drunk and he\u2019d be out chasin\u2019 every woman and bring his wife home every disease, and he\u2019d say, (fake voice, first words unintelligible), <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&#8220;The Bible says, obey your husband.&#8221;\u00a0(1 Peter 3:1: \u201cLikewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives.\u201d See also Ephesians 5:24.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Drunker than a hoot owl, and that\u2019s all he could ever quote. &#8220;The Bible says, obey your husband.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter and movement<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>And uh\u2014\u00a0so Adam\u2014\u00a0Eve got out of the rib, and she\u2014 after God got through spittin\u2019 on the dust and makin\u2019 Adam. And they said Adam and Eve didn\u2019t know right from wrong, and said uh, you can <i>eat<\/i> of the Tree of Life\u2014 Isn\u2019t what the book said? You wouldn\u2019t know, three of you, you asleep. It said the uh\u2014<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>It said uh, eat, eat of the Tree of the Life, but it said, don\u2019t eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, \u2018cause the day you do, you\u2019re gone die. That\u2019s [what it] said, didn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Well, Eve was hungry, and like most women, she got time to do something for a man, she lookin\u2019 around, she start workin\u2019, she learned how to be boss quick, \u2018cause she out runnin\u2019 around tryin\u2019 to find something for her husband while he layin\u2019 up there. And\u2014<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter, calls of &#8220;All right&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>And she looked and she looked and she looked and she found her an <i>apple<\/i>. (Pause) And so she\u2014\u00a0Serpent\u2014 The serpent\u2014\u00a0The other fellow, the devil\u2014 Now I never figured out this old story. See, I uh, see God as Mind, as Energy, and I\u2019m just appropriating Energy. I\u2019ve learned how to adapt energy like a, a generator does electricity. I can\u2019t worship this kind of screwball God you got, uh, with a\u2014\u00a0granddaddy with a long beard and bald head, (mumbles in dismissal). Anyway\u2014<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice:<\/b> Take your time.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones:<\/b> I will.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Laughter<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Cries out) So\u2014 (Calms) You see, in the beginning, God was lonely and he created a man, and he created angels, and uh, the uh\u2014 How bad off he was, you say he\u2019s all-powerful, yet I got a verse in here that says\u2014 <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Judges 1:19, that God was able to uh\u2014 Judges, the first chapter, the nineteenth verse, says God was able\u2014 I don\u2019t think\u2014 Well, it\u2019s in here (unintelligible word) someplace. It\u2019s in the Bible. [It] Says God could, uh\u2014 He could drive uh, drave out\u2014 it\u2019s not even spelled right. Said he could drave out the inhabitants of the mountains, but he couldn\u2019t do nothing with those inhabitants of the valley, \u2018cause they had chariots (Judges 1:19: \u201cAnd the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but cou,d not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.\u201d).<\/span> (Laughs) (Pause) (Voice rises) It\u2019s in the book. Acts one\u2014 uh, Jud\u2014 Judges 1:19. God couldn\u2019t get rid of the people in the valley, because they had <i>chariots<\/i>. Now what kind of a God you got? And God, (unintelligible word) Old Bible, of the King James, the old book, this old stuff we\u2019ve been talking about, (Voice drops) this God was so weak, (Pause) that he made him a bunch of angels, and the most beautiful one he made rebelled against him and led a third of them off. (Cries out) Took a third of them off. Took of a third of his angels, and he was the devil. (Calm) Now, I don\u2019t know whether these stories ever run\u2014\u00a0run against <i>your<\/i> grain or not, but\u2014 Maybe not. Maybe they don\u2019t. (Aside) Now, honey, you don\u2019t have to do this. You\u2014 you\u2019re working awful hard, I can carry this, you want to sit down awhile. \u2018Cause I\u2019m walking you too much, maybe. (Back to congregation) So\u2014 and they didn\u2019t (unintelligible phrase). He was lonely. And that\u2019s the reason probably he got into trouble, he was lonely and\u2014\u00a0Now what <i>I\u2019d<\/i> do if I looked on this mess of Los Angeles, and I was the only one, I\u2019d look down on Los Angeles and I\u2019d say, (Pause) &#8220;Well, if I\u2019m in this mess, I love folk too much to make another one like me.&#8221; (Pause) You know why they have to keep these on there? You know why they asked you to keep these on there? They\u2019ve poisoned my food. General Hospital\u2014 they put so much poison in the\u2014\u00a0my food\u2014 somebody put poison in right when it went down, and I took enough poison that they said in the clinic, that it would have killed five horses.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Movement<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>They had it checked. General Hospital. So that\u2019s why they put the top on it, so nobody can put\u2014\u00a0Isn\u2019t that something? That you can\u2019t walk down the aisle. I\u2014 They\u2019re so s\u2014 They\u2019re so afraid of me, they try to poison me, but they\u2014 they\u2014 they better <i>learn<\/i> that they\u2014<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Calls out) All right. Anyhow. Anyway. This is what you have been putting your time with, and will draw this day to its conclusion, \u2018cause it\u2019s just two minutes from when I said ten minutes. (Pause) What kind of business have you been worshipping? (Pause) All they give you is excuses. Say, God loved you. He made you. That isn\u2019t\u2014 That doesn\u2019t make any sense to you. Doesn\u2019t make any sense to your mind. Said, well, he made the devil. (Voice moderates) Why\u2019d he make the devil? He made him because he had to be a free moral creature to choose right from wrong. The <i>best<\/i> thing to do is not make anybody at all, then they wouldn\u2019t get in no trouble. (Pause) Hmm?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Movement. One man laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Calls out) So what do you really believe? I\u2019m not\u2014\u00a0You won\u2019t know, I\u2019m just trying to cause you to think. And by tearing up some of these things, I will get you to think, and you\u2019ll <i>think<\/i> your way to salvation. You don\u2019t <i>feel<\/i> your way to salvation. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">You have to come, let us <i>reason<\/i> together (Isaiah 1:18: \u201cCome now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.\u201d).<\/span> (Pause) (Calm) Right now, as I said, they\u2019ve made the newspapers last week, not free anymore. Because every newspaper has to tell, who tells them any news. So that\u2019s gonna make a newspaper not get any sources on who\u2019s in the Mafia, or who\u2019s pushing the dope, or who\u2019s robbing the poor folks in the\u2014 in their housing. The newspaper\u2019s not going to be able to <i>expose<\/i> it, because they have to tell who told them. Little by little, a police state\u2019s creeping on, and they still got us singing, (Sings softly) &#8220;By and by, don\u2019t make no difference anyhow. I\u2019m gonna go to heaven one day.&#8221; (Voice rises) How do you know? Nothing in there that\u2019s straight. Don\u2019t have a straight story in it. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">How you know there\u2019s a heaven? (Pause) Jesus didn\u2019t talk about going anywhere. He said, Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, in earth (Matthew 6:10: &#8220;Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.&#8221;)\u2014<\/span> (Voice drops) <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">He said, the kingdom of heaven is nigh to you. It\u2019s within you (Luke 10:9-11, esp. 9:11: &#8220;notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.&#8221; Also, Luke 17:21: &#8220;Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.&#8221;).<\/span> (Pause) They got plans, right now, to destroy every black person. I\u2019ve got it up here. I won\u2019t go into the laws. It\u2019s called racial genocide. They talked about it on\u2014\u00a0What was the name of the woman\u2019s program? Right on national TV. (Pause) Ethnic\u2014 What\u2019d they call it? The ethnic weapons. What\u2019s her name?<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>(scattered) Virginia Graham\u2014<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Virginia Graham program. Says the military has a plan to destroy every minority. She said, that\u2019s too bad. (Pause) Ethnic weapons. She said, that\u2019s too bad to think about, and they wouldn\u2019t it go on any more. It\u2019s already printed, to destroy. You think that they (unintelligible word)? You say, oh, well, my, not going to do it, \u2018cause God\u2019s gonna come. That\u2019s what the Jews said. The Jews said in Germany, God\u2019s gonna come and get us out of our trouble. God\u2019s chosen people, the book says, are the Jews. (Pause) He didn\u2019t keep the Germans from murdering nine million of them. One of the evangelists come through my town, told how he\u2014\u00a0he said he didn\u2019t know. He said, you\u2019re supposed to obey those that have rule over you. So he stood back while the German secret police came in and shot down little children, right in his church. They said, open your mouth and close your eyes, I\u2019m gonna give you a piece of candy. And they put a Luger in every mouth, and shot every baby, right down on the stree\u2014 on the altar. (Calls out) That happened to the Jews. (Pause) And that, the book says, they\u2019re the chosen people. Well, if they\u2019re the chosen people, they <i>sure<\/i> went through a mess in Europe, \u2018cause Germany, when they got through, there wasn\u2019t a one left <i>alive. Killed<\/i> \u2018em. <i>Burned<\/i> \u2018em. <i>Send<\/i> them to gas ovens, till they dug at the ceiling. They thought they were in showers. And when they found out, they dug at the ceilings. The mark is still at Dachau (Voice drops) and in all of those terrible places. (Pause) (Whispers name) Auschwitz. The fingernails, as they cr\u2014\u00a0would reach to the ceiling to get out, because they believed that there was a (scornfully) Skygod. They believed that there was a heaven they were going to go to. (Pause) (Low, intense) Wake up, mother. You\u2019ve worked yourself to death for nothing. (Pause) (Calm) Seven years ago, they beat somebody to death because of the color of their skin in the streets of my town, but no more, because we\u2019re all together, and we all vote. We voted in the last supervisor, we voted in the last sheriff. That\u2019s the way we\u2019re going to have freedom. (Voice rises) You\u2019ll keep waiting for a Skygod, and you\u2019re going end yourself up in trouble. And I\u2019ll tell you something else. We went up to Canada, and we cleaned up every place until a man come from Parliament, he said, &#8220;I\u2019m afraid your country\u2019s going to go dictatorship.&#8221; He said, &#8220;If you want to bring your busses in, I\u2019ll let you get in. When it starts coming,&#8221; he said, &#8220;load your busses and we\u2019ll let you go in as far as you want into the w\u2014\u00a0wilds of British Columbia.&#8221; (Voice moderates) [He] Said, &#8220;No matter what they do, they won\u2019t be able to find you.&#8221; I said, &#8220;Thank you, sir.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause and calls of affirmation<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>He said, &#8220;You\u2019re the <i>cleanest<\/i> bunch of people\u2014&#8221; (Pause) That\u2019s just about the way\u2014 I\u2019m just quoting <i>almost<\/i> exactly the way it was. Port Langely, I told you what they said, said we\u2014\u00a0the way the children take care of the old people, how they clean up everything, said we\u2014\u00a0we\u2019ve never had a group of people that were so decent, so honest, so clean. (Pause) So I\u2019ve got an emergency plan for whatever. I <i>know<\/i> that there\u2019s going to be a great holocaust. I know the date of that. In the <i>meantime<\/i>, there may be a dictatorship take over. (Ministerial cadence) Your last week\u2019s <i>Enqurier, National Enquirer<\/i>, prints\u00a0white Los Angeles officials and names governmental people, that names a school of assassination right out here in the desert, where they\u2019re training people that killed [former Alabama governor and presidential candidate George] Wallace, that killed Martin Luther King, that killed President [John F.] Kennedy, that killed Senator [Robert] Kennedy\u2014 You know that they didn\u2019t do it alone. Sirhan [convicted assassin of Robert Kennedy, Sirhan B. Sirhan] didn\u2019t have any money. He didn\u2019t have any job. (Voice moderates) The man that killed uh\u2014\u00a0The man that killed uh, Wallace had been tracin\u2019 Governor\u2014 [Democratic presidential candidate, Senator George] McGovern, he\u2019d been tracin\u2019 every one of them. Travelin\u2019, livin\u2019 in the biggest hotels. When they found Sirhan, he had hundred dollar bills on him, he hadn\u2019t worked for months. (Cries out) Where\u2019d he get the money? (High pitch) And the <i>National Enquirer<\/i> says, it\u2019s a plan to cause division by killing b\u2014\u00a0both the bad guys and the good guys, until everybody will have\u2014\u00a0lose face in the political process, and we\u2019ll let somebody take over by pu\u2014\u00a0uh, dictatorship, and by power, and will yield electoral process, (Voice calms) will yield the Constitution. (Pause) Said, it\u2019s a plan, and if <i>National Enquirer <\/i>that has three and half million subscribers says it\u2019s <i>our<\/i> (Deliberate) CIA, our American Central Intelligence Agency that\u2019s doing it. (Pause) (Intense) Now, that\u2019s what you need to be hearing. (Pause) This I\u2019ll tell you, and what your KCBS said, over the radio, had a big man from the CIA, says, &#8220;I had to <i>quit<\/i>.&#8221; He said, in\u2014 in Bangkok, he said, in Cambodia, we are bringing out the\u2014 the\u2014 what is it, the\u2014\u00a0opium, that makes heroin. (Calls out) He says, our government planes are taking out the heroin to keep up those generals\u2019 dictatorships over there, to keep their governments up, eighty percent of all the heroin in the world, we are transporting with our tax dollars in our planes to keep those generals in power. It was right on the radio, and nobody listened to it, because we\u2019re too busy reading little black books or down on our knees, or in some old dumb missionary meeting. We won\u2019t hear what\u2019s going on.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Voice calms) He gave his name, and KCBS gave the documentation. And our tax dollars done that. (Pause) Sure, they murdered these leaders. (Pause) And the man here, across the\u2014 who happens to be across the street from the office of the CIA. He says he saw two of them from the <i>bay<\/i> office \u2014 you can look at him, and see whether he\u2019s telling the truth or not, that\u2019s up to you to decide \u2014\u00a0he saw two of them that <i>he<\/i> saw walk in the CIA office every day in San Francisco go in my Seattle meeting. (Pause) Huh. Why they going up to Seattle from San Francisco? What do they want with me? (Pause) (Short laugh) And they had a <i>Bible<\/i> in their hand, he said, too.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Scattered laughter and movement<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Ministerial call) They like me dead, but they don\u2019t know how quite to get it done. They tried to shoot me, they tried to poison me, they tried to run over me with a truck, and I\u2019m still going, because I don\u2019t believe in a Skygod, I believe in me, God in me. That\u2019s what I believe in.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Voice calms) And what I\u2019m trying to get you folks to do, not giving me a dime. Just get you to put your money together, and let\u2019s build communities and protect ourselves from the enemies that are from without and within. They\u2019re all around you. In San Francisco \u2014 I meant to close, but I gotta give this \u2014 in San Francisco, the paper, the <i>Sun-Reporter<\/i> exposed the entire Baptist Alliance for squandering monies that were meant for poverty and for the poor, and it named the name, one of the ministers I just prophesied, he dead, Reverend Green. All the names, put their <i>pictures<\/i>, showed what they\u2019d <i>done<\/i>, and do you think that us\u2019ns folks, us dummies, listen to it? That paper would\u2019ve been put out of business. It\u2019s not the biggest paper. It was a little paper, run by a\u2014\u00a0a very fine doctor [Carlton Goodlett, physician and publisher of <i>Sun-Reporter<\/i>], who\u2019s been a good friend, the ways he says he\u00a0don\u2019t believe in churches. He came and he said\u2014 well, I\u2019m not going to say what he said about me. People heard what he said. In a word, he said, there was never a man <i>alive<\/i> like me. (Pause) (Voice rises) But that black man printed the truth about all those black preachers. Doctor Goodlett preached\u2014\u00a0put it down in writing, gave the dates, told the amounts of money, and told it all, they coulda been put in the jails. But the people so Uncle Tom and Aunt Jane, they still going to those churches. They won\u2019t listen to truth when it\u2019s spelled out and told to them. (Pause) (Calms) You got the same stinkin\u2019 mess right here today. Same stinkin\u2019 mess. Now I\u2019m gettin\u2019 ready to close. But before I close, I think it\u2019s a shame \u2014 I\u2019m not taking an offering \u2014 but I think it\u2019s a <i>shame<\/i> that there\u2019s four hundred and thirty-three dollars. And I hope that there\u2019re <i>some<\/i> of you that love. Before I start calling out people again, I would like somebody to help us, so that we\u2014\u00a0if it hadn\u2019t been for a man to pay for the rent yesterday, we wouldn\u2019t have had enough money to pay the <i>rent<\/i> this\u2014 this time. They\u2019ve tried to <i>freeze<\/i> us out. (Pause) 433 people\u2014 Why, I can tell you that [Reverend] Ike, with his $250,000 house, and his indoor swee\u2014 swi\u2014\u00a0swimming pool and his outdoor swimming pool, that\u2019s heated. You don\u2019t go away with less than\u2014 In Seattle, they told us what uh, they went away with, $50,000, one of those big healers.<\/p>\n<p><b>Voice: <\/b>A.A. Allen [healing evangelist of the 1950\u2019s], $64,000 (unintelligible)\u2014<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>A. Allen\u2014\u00a0A. Allen raised sixty-four thousand, and I know across there on Hill Street, that man over there has paid for those <i>seats<\/i>, he\u2019s raised offering for that same bunch of <i>seats<\/i> fifteen times. They\u2019re still paying for those same seats, they never\u2014\u00a0(unintelligible word) returning crowd, keep coming in, you know, to buy this new seats. Come up to Redwood Valley July twenty-second, and you\u2019ll see chairs that can be taken up so we can do physical therapy in the heated pool, for <i>our<\/i> children. <i>I<\/i> don\u2019t have a heated pool. The <i>people<\/i> have a heated pool. (Rises into ministerial cadence) The people have a sanitarium. The people have senior citizen homes, the <i>people<\/i> have a children\u2019s home, the <i>people<\/i> have four dormitories, and I want the <i>people<\/i> to have a hospital. Thus far those of you (unintelligible word) are in <i>my<\/i> family membership have not had to have one. (Voice calms) But if they do, I don\u2019t want it to be the mess like I did, when I was a kid, and got my first job, I was the <i>head<\/i> of the nurses, before I went to college at 17, and it\u2019s still the same way today. My wife\u2019s [Marceline Jones] been a head of surgery, we\u2019ve got several registered nurses up there. If you come in, and if you\u2019re somebody, they put on a little, little code on your chart. It means (Deliberate) VIP. They\u2019ve got different words for it now. (Pause) Very important person. You worked in the hospitals, you know what I mean. (Voice rises) And you\u2019re a peon, you can die. But let one of those VIP\u2019s ring the bell, and they\u2019ll run right there, and you can lay and die. <i>You<\/i>. All you white and black folk here, you can die. Because they\u2019ll take care of first are those VIP\u2019s. (Pause) (Intense, but low) Right now (unintelligible word) till I trained this nurse, through our college plan, and she took over those hos\u2014 that hospital nursing division, they were sewing up things in people\u2019s <i>guts<\/i>, sewing up <i>instruments<\/i> in their bellies\u2014 Oh, don\u2019t tell\u2014\u00a0read\u2014 All you have to do is read the medical magazines on that. It happens all the time. Cuttin\u2019 off things that don\u2019t need to be cut off\u2014 (Pause) Heard just the other day, one in San Francisco, one of our registered nurses, she said she\u2014\u00a0she\u2019s quittin\u2019, she going in another\u2014 another hospital, she said she heard the doctor say, &#8220;Well, I <i>think<\/i> I could save her breast, but we just\u2014 It\u2019d be simpler to cut it off.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>Says it\u2019s tedious work\u2014\u00a0says it\u2019s tedious work, so I\u2019d think that it\u2019d be simpler to cut it off.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Murmurs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Ministerial cadence) Now I know all doctors are not like that, but there\u2019s a whole lot of them that are like that. Whole lot of crooked doctors, just like there are whole lot of crooked preachers. I know a preacher up there\u2014 one that\u2014 (unintelligible phrase) (calms) he\u2019s got a <i>harp<\/i> up in Redwood Valley, let him sue me if\u2014 the old liar. He\u2014 He belongs to the Adventist Church, and he\u2019s always going around saving souls, he says, &#8220;Oh, you gotta get saved. You gotta get saved. Want to get you saved.&#8221; You know what that rascal does? <i>He\u2019ll<\/i> go into our nursing\u2014\u00a0We won\u2019t let him in our nursing homes anymore, \u2018cause we got thirteen. We\u2014\u00a0We set up our own people in business too. We <i>help<\/i> one another. (Voice rises) We\u2019re not building no churches, we\u2019re not building no great big cathedrals, I\u2019ve got one ol\u2019 organ I bought 20 years ago, 22 years ago, and that ol\u2019 organ still plays like it\u2014 just as good as it was in\u2014\u00a0the day I bought it. I\u2019ve carried it from New York to Canada, and it\u2019s still playing, bless its heart, and it\u2019s gone play a long while yet, I\u2019m gonna let it play till the bo\u2014\u00a0the boards fall off. The boards already have fallen off the piano, and it\u2019s still playing. (Cries out) We don\u2019t need pianos, we don\u2019t need organs, we don\u2019t need church benches, we need something that will lift us up out of our misery.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p>(Pause)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Short laugh) (voice calms) Yeah, you\u2019re a young man. You may have been he\u2014 around here a few years, but you\u2019re a young man, and I\u2014 you\u2014 you\u2019re\u2014\u00a0you have an <i>understanding<\/i>. And they got some over there, don\u2019t know their right hand from their left, and they\u2019re young, and they ought to know better. (Pause) You\u2019re settin\u2019 and listening. (Pause) I want to see us have freedom. That <i>doctor<\/i>, I want to tell you, he comes in these nursing homes, we got 13 members of our church that own nursing homes now. The <i>best<\/i> in the town. <i>Cleanest<\/i> in the town. (Voice starts to climb) And we\u2019re gonna keep on, we got that valley in our hands, if you\u2019ll cooperate with us. We\u2019ll move some of you up there, and you can retire in peace, won\u2019t have to\u2014\u00a0This\u2014 This is awful out here, this smog. You got cities all around here saying, that government, Sacramento, you\u2019re gonna do somethin\u2019 about it, they said yesterday, or we\u2019re gonna stop every car in our town, because it cannot stand it, the way it\u2019s killin\u2019 our people. (Voice moderates) I can run two miles in Redwood Valley, I\u2019ll run off and down to the\u2014\u00a0get the mail at the country store. <i>Run<\/i>. I run <i>two<\/i> blocks in this town, and I taste lead, and I get fuzzy-headed. My ears go (makes zingy sounds).<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Scattered laughs<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Calls out, then returns to normal tone) This town is filled with just pollution, and they said the ozone was so bad, over your TV, over one of your radio stations, said your ozone was so bad, I think it was Thursday or Friday, it said, don\u2019t anybody do any exercise outside. Don\u2019t <i>even<\/i> clip the hedges. (Pause) What do you think they\u2019re telling you that for? (Laughs) \u2018Cause they want a few more dollars from you, they want their taxes. (Pause) See, it\u2019s gettin\u2019 so bad now, they didn\u2019t mind if you died off, but if <i>everybody<\/i> dies off, there won\u2019t be anybody to keep the rich in power. (Laughs) (Pause) Well, what I said about this doctor, and a re\u2014\u00a0religious doctor, the only good doctors in our town up there are doctors [that] don\u2019t go to church. Every one of the religious doctors up there is a ratfink. This doctor\u2019s an Adventist, and he is something else. He\u2019ll go in\u2014\u00a0He would go into nursing home until I stopped him, and he would (more intense) never see a patient. And sign the slips, 12:15. Is it true? You registered nurses, all you nurses up there, is it true? Marceline, is it true? He\u2019d slign [sign] the papers (Pause) and never see \u2018em, and send it in to, um, the uh, Medicare. And my wife, due to my instruction, I said, go see that one man. The old man had something in his ear clear down\u2014 and it wasn\u2019t a member of my church, in another home\u2014\u00a0and then they kept saying, (unintelligible word\/name), he\u2019s just a little loco. He\u2019s just a little\u2014 He\u2019s just emotionally troubled. And we took that man to Doctor Whitaker in Santa Rosa, who\u2019s an atheist, he can cuss like a fishwife, we took him up there, and he says, (Cries out) &#8220;Who in the ba-bum-ba-lump-bump\u2014&#8221; He said, &#8220;<i>Who<\/i> treated this man? For two years this man\u2019s ear and Eustachian tubes have been rotted out with cancer, till it eat clear down,&#8221; and that rotten doctor had never once looked in that ear, and robbed that man for two years of his money. And you\u2019re gettin\u2019 hooked like that every day. (Pause) (Calm) We had a woman on our trip, if I hadn\u2019t saved her, she sent her on the trip, (Pause) sent her right from a hospital here. No, and I\u2019ll not name it. No, it\u2019s all right, if you go trip. Take a few penicillin tablets. I come back and looked at her feet, and she was ready to die. She had gangrene in both legs. Stopped in Oregon to doctor, he said, &#8220;This woman? Too late.&#8221; He said, &#8220;I won\u2019t do a <i>thing<\/i> for her, it\u2019s too late.&#8221; The only reason she\u2019s alive is because of me. (Voice climbs) Her legs were rotten, and for nine months, they had never took an examination, just give her a penicillin tablets, and anybody with a bit of sense knows, that an oral tablet won\u2019t reach something that\u2019s clear to the bone. But they wanted her out of their hair, and she\u2014 (Shouts at woman) <i>Sit down, you Aunt Jane<\/i>, sit down, I\u2019m tired of you moving. Sit down. (Pause) (Ministerial monotone) I\u2019ll tell you, it\u2019s a shame, I only come so often, I won\u2019t be back until next week, July eighth and ninth, then\u2014\u00a0then not till August fifth and sixth, and by golly, I may not <i>ever<\/i> come back to this stinkin\u2019 hole. (Pause) Where\u2019re you goin\u2019? You got no place to go. (Pause) So selfish, she won\u2019t hear somebody that\u2019s poured out their soul. (Cries out) Giving their soul.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Scattered applause and cries, applause builds momentarily<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Normal tone) <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Let\u2019s get together, \u2018cause we don\u2019t know that there\u2019s going to be anything but what Jesus said, what\u2019s in your hand, what Moses said, what\u2019s in your hand, use it with all your might (Reference unclear).<\/span> Jesus said the kingdom that is within. Thy kingdom, in earth. (Pause) It\u2019s gonna have to be built in earth. (Pause) (Soft tone) Have I been with you so long that you cannot understand, I\u2019m just trying to save you.<\/p>\n<p><b>One man: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>I\u2019m just trying to save you from the grafters and the corrupters and the ones that have ruined your minds, that have taken a hold of you and used you. And I\u2019ll not prove it anymore. How can I do it? (Pause) I\u2019ve done everything I know to be good and kind. I\u2019ve adopted eight babies, I\u2019ve never refused an older person a home, someone\u2019s going home with us, right in this\u2014 this very night, from here. (Pause) So, now, [you] say, &#8220;I won\u2019t ever need to go home.&#8221; You wait. (Pause) The last meeting, Louise Henry, [who] now lives in our home, beautiful home at Snuffin and Oak, the most beautiful home you want to find, you won\u2019t find any rest homes or nursing homes like ours. They\u2019re the cleanest and nicest that there are.<\/p>\n<p><b>One man: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>She walked out that door, I said, &#8220;Please don\u2019t leave.&#8221; She said, &#8220;This is not my religion. I want to go see my kinfolk.&#8221; I said, &#8220;Please don\u2019t leave.&#8221; She\u2019d never give a dime to the church, never give a dime. I said, &#8220;If you go, your comings and goings\u2019 in trouble. You\u2019re in danger on the street.&#8221; She didn\u2019t no more get out of the street, she hadn\u2019t been out there any time at all, till she broke both hips. She fell down right out in back of this building, and broke both hips. They laid her up in hospital, our last meeting was May 28th, she laid there until about a week ago, when I took her \u2014\u00a0two weeks ago \u2014 her kinfolk never sent her a card, or never came inside that hospital door, and her preacher, not one member of her church ever visited her, and who took her? <i>I<\/i> brought her all the way back to Redwood Valley and give her a home. Now she hadn\u2019t got any money. The hospital took every dime she had, <i>every dime she had<\/i>, (Calls out) it\u2019s all gone now. She could\u2019ve helped me, if she\u2019d had sense. (Conversational tone) But you see, I love people, I s\u2014\u00a0<i>still<\/i> couldn\u2019t forget that she\u2019s older, and she didn\u2019t know what she was doing. So I\u2019m gonna say today, little differenter than usual, I want to see some folk here that\u2019ll <i>support<\/i> this cause. \u2018Cause I\u2019m gonna come back here, don\u2019t you get worried, I\u2019m gonna come till I get some of you folk <i>moved<\/i>. You know what I\u2019ve got here mostly, older people\u2019s got sense. I\u2019ve got young minds in old bodies. I got a swinging young person here, but <i>where are our youth<\/i>? You may not dig the <i>other<\/i> churches, but here, that come in here, the youth that come in here, they won\u2019t even listen, some of them.<\/p>\n<p><b>One man: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>And everything I\u2019ve said I\u2019ve proven. (Repetition more deliberate) I\u2019ve proven everything I\u2019ve said. (Pause) You say, well, you\u2019re not gonna make me believe there not a <i>Skygod<\/i>. Well, I may not make you believe there\u2019s not a Skygod, but I\u2019m gonna tell you, you can\u2019t prove, with all your life, you can\u2019t prove that he\u2019s friendly.<\/p>\n<p><b>One man: <\/b>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Voice rises) Because if there is one, two out of three babies are going to bed hungry every day. People of all races, just because of the color of their skin, they get the worst shaft. Just because of the color of their skin, they get the worst treatment. Why is that? I treat everybody alike. The Christ that\u2019s here, the God that\u2019s here, treats everybody alike. I don\u2019t see rich or poor, black or white, I see people as people.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>One man: <\/b>Yeah. That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>(Calmer) Now if there was a Being up there like you say there was, some great-granddaddy, and he was all-wise, all-knowing, he should get off of that throne and come down here, \u2018cause people are starving to death. [CBS News anchor] Walter Cronkite said, ten million are starving, and it showed on your TV, little white and black, Indian babies, starving all over America. Not to mention, the United States government says (Voice climbs) two out of three babies, while we set right here, while we sit here, (Voice moderates) two out of three babies that he made, that you say the Skygod made, are starving. What if you\u2014\u00a0What if my eight children were\u2014 <i>one<\/i> of them was starving. You\u2019d say, you louse, get out of here. (Pause) Hmm? (Pause) You quit thinking. (Pause) You\u2019re saying, you\u2019re doing away with everything I ever held on to. Maybe if I do <i>away<\/i> with something, you might start <i>building<\/i> something proper. There\u2019s a explanation for this. It has to deal with rebirth. But I\u2019m not going to give you any <i>positive<\/i> things today, I\u2019m gonna give the <i>negative<\/i>, so that you\u2019ll get the <i>old<\/i> torn down. You\u2019re never going to do anything, (quickly, more excited) \u2018cause you know what some of you folk\u2019ll do? Just like I heard that reverend this morning say \u2014 I heard him say it \u2014\u00a0he says, &#8220;Well, there\u2019s trouble all around, they shootin\u2019 our people in the streets, and if we don\u2019t get anyplace, there\u2019s no justice,&#8221; but he say, &#8220;when the (draws out word) great white throne judgment,&#8221; said, &#8220;when we go on that great round-up,&#8221; says, &#8220;then we\u2019re going to have justice.&#8221; That\u2019s the way all of you\u2014\u00a0(In full throat) You won\u2019t do anything, \u2018cause you think that someplace out there in the sky, you\u2019re gonna get your justice. You\u2019ll get no more justice than what you work for (Cries out) right here.<\/p>\n<p><b>Congregation: <\/b>Applause<\/p>\n<p><b>Jones: <\/b>I\u2019ve\u2014\u00a0I\u2019ve said enough.<\/p>\n<p>End of tape<\/p>\n<p><b>Tape originally posted February 2003<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To return to the Tape Index, click here. To return to the Annotated Sermons page,\u00a0click here. To read the Tape Summary, click here.\u00a0To read Tape Transcript,\u00a0click here. To listen to MP3, click here. Jones: \u2014is upon them. Hmm? Anyone? (Pause) Oh, I\u2019m just telling you what\u2019s in there. 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