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Transcript prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n

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Jones:<\/strong> (unintelligible fragment) for Tuesday. This is the big day for us. It\u2019ll be in the evening time when Dr. [Carlton] Goodlett, Mark Lane of prominent fame for writing Rush to Judgment<\/em>, along with our new friend, Dr. [Don] Freed, and many other texts too numerous to mention, Inquest<\/em>, as Dr. Freed did, on the Rosenberg trial. Well, they\u2019re going to be having a press conference with [Joe Mazor] one of the conspirators. Hopefully, he is going to give cooperation and will come forward. Anyway, if he does not, they will step forward with their impressions in a big news conference of Jonestown. Mark Lane, powerful attorney, is participating in this effort, and doesn\u2019t want a penny for it, after hearing so much about it from his good associate, Dr. Freed.<\/p>\n

So a number of our friends in the press will be gathering this evening, and let us hope that it will turn out well. If it goes well, we will get a link into the conspiracy, \u2018cause we\u2019re going to make a strong effort, which we will not go into today, to unveil one who we know has connections with the Nazi INTERPOL and [Tim] Stoen, and all the ex-members, and the CIA, and the Treasury Department, and the San Francisco and Los Angeles police.<\/p>\n

News of the day: President [Anwar] Sadat is stopping over in Paris on his way to Washington where it is hoped that nuclear word\u2013 nuclear World War III can be avoided. Most of the Arab nations are over\u2013 overly upset by the conference, because it isn\u2019t binding, but in the eyes of the Arab League, it\u2019s going to cause \u2013 necessitate, rather \u2013 retaliation, because they believe they\u2019re being sold out by Washington, and [Menachem] Begin of Israel, and Sadat of Egypt. They say \u2013 and rightfully so \u2013 that all Arab nations should be involved. Lebanon, whose territory has been taken away by Israel, as well as Jordan, who had her<\/em> territory, the West Bank, conquered by Israel. (deep breath)<\/p>\n

World trade grew by four percent last year, but eleven percent the year before.<\/p>\n

Peru copper strike looks like it\u2019s coming to a finish. Troops have been collecting food for the strikers for two months. Even the troops of the Peruvian army back the copper strikers. They got their demands. The military government could do nothing but to bow to the left trade unions, who are all organized, Trotskyite, socialize\u2013 socialist\u2013 Social Democrats and Communists of every hue and variety, thus forcing the military dictatorship to meet their demands, because the army of<\/em> the military dictatorship w\u2013 has been supplying the troops with food\u2013 sufficient<\/em> food for two months, long enough for them to get their demands. Beautiful.<\/p>\n

Violence in Turkey by the fascist regime, after [President Jimmy] Carter has lifted the ban on arms. Turkish police shot down nine students, killed \u2018em in cold blood, for protesting the fascist state of Turkey.<\/p>\n

Rhodesia. Ten of 18 survivors who wo\u2013 did<\/em> survive the plane of white so\u2013 Rhodesian people, high level white families that were flying over the Zimbabwean territory and were shot down by missiles, as the Soviets have now provided Zimbabwean with missiles, because USA had been surprised the world\u2013 surprised the world by giving napalm and what the USA jokingly calls its neutron<\/em> bomb \u2013 nigger bomb<\/a> \u2013 to Rhodesia and South Africa. So, the Russian air-to-plane missile, any heat, it goes right to it, it struck down the plane, but the plane landed, and ten survived. As they stepped out, the Patriotic Front charged them with crimes. All of them were high government officials or in business circles of the corrupt fascist regime of Ian Smith and Rhodesia. Ten of them in the next four hours that survived were f\u2013 shot to death by people\u2019s firing squad of the Patriotic Front, Zimbabwean Patriotic Front of Robert Mugabe, Marxist-Leninist, and Joshua Nkomo, nationalist.<\/p>\n

More arrests are being made in Nicaragua. In an attempt to bring down [Anastasio] Somoza. All world opinion, both capitalist and socialist, do not see how Somoza can hold on more than a few weeks at best. It has already been circulated by the bank president that his wealth is out of the country.<\/p>\n

Annual trade union conference in England. Trade union\u2013 free trade union movement refused to be intimidated by the English government, and have demanded, if they would hold their conference there and put their money into the English economy, that they get television coverage, and BBC has covered the demands of the trade union conference very well, and much of the comments of the trade union have been denunciations denouncing US imperialism and English and other NATO imperialists in Africa.<\/p>\n

Britain reserves of gold. English reserves of gold and foreign currency dropped last month by 13 million dollars. Reserves were well above the figure of a we\u2013 of a year ago, and they dropped suddenly, till they\u2019re now lower than they\u2019ve ever been.<\/p>\n

The world today. Many world economies are in recession next to Depression of 1929, except for those who are dealing in the currency in arms, particularly in the Third World. Developing increase in economies are Morocco buying a lot of arms, and they have a lot of oil. North Korea increase in buying of arms and production<\/em> of arms to protect themselves and other Third World nations, and their economy is also in good standing. Ethiopia\u2019s c\u2013 economy has doubled, buying arms from the Soviet Union, and in return, giving their harvest as North Korea has to China and<\/em> the Soviet Union for supplying them with arms. F-15 aircraft, F-18 aircraft, tanks of all varieties are being set [sent] into the Soviet Union. Air-to-plane missile\u2013 ground-to-air missiles also now, as the Soviet Union is getting tired of the Somalian tricks back by US imperialists.<\/p>\n

Tanks are shelling\u2013 The tanks of the (unintelligible word) nature are being sold to Iran, the Shah of Iran. Arms sold without any restriction whatsoever. Is that sane, says BBC. BBC charges that the 1979 scenario of the world collapse could buy\u2013 likely come to pass<\/em>, because they feel that the Shah is close to having his fingers on nuclear weapons. Not restricted at all, is what they sold to th\u2013 the Shah, because US needs his oil and needs his riches. Who are the worst countries selling weapons, according to Radio Sweden, social democracy? USA is the worst imperialist power. Its economy is nearly kept alive by selling arms, after stealing the materials to make those arms from such continents as Africa and Third World nations in Southeast Asia. Next comes Britain and then following, France. Only then comes the Soviet Union, out of necessity. It is purely economic \u2013 no, political \u2013 for capitalist nations, says the BBC. They have<\/em> to do so. But we know what it is. It is nothing but economics. There has to be so much turnover. There has to be constant turnover. The planned obsolescence, things to wear out quickly, so people will have to buy them more quickly and readily. What else is used up more quickly than guns, and at the same time, soldiers\u2019 lives are killed, so they won\u2019t have to l\u2013 give it un\u2013 any employment considerations for the poor. (Moves mike)<\/p>\n

But in USSR, it serves no purpose. It is actually a drain on the economy. Even BBC admitted this. The Soviet Union does not set up its economy based on war. As shown in Angola, it was a great drain on them. (Clears throat) Cuba also was as\u2013 expensive economic drain, as they now pour three million dollars a day in maintaining the high standard of living that the Cubans enjoy. US gives them the\u2013 gives arms to Israel, who gets everything almost free<\/em>, because of the influence of Zionism in USA. US gives a billion<\/em> and a half every year of our<\/em> tax money. Now that\u2019s fifteen hundred million dollars, per<\/em> year, free, of our<\/em> tax money, for armaments, sophisticated sufficiently that now they have nuclear weapons. At least US tactical nuclear weapons.<\/p>\n

US is selling the F-15 missile [fighter jets] to Saudi Arabia\u2013 A\u2013 Abra\u2013 Arabia, by the demand of the Arab League, because they are going to cut off oil unless US does. Thus this increases the likelihood of nuclear war also. United States is the biggest supplier of arms around the world, said BBC. Back-up of personnel that they buy the weapon from, in many countries, are in the\u2013 in the Third World, that they\u2019re trying to get Third World nations so\u2013 soldiers, particularly those of lighter skin to do their fighting, but they\u2019re not having very much success. They spend on much on weapons as health and education in the United States on the Third World nations. They give them in fact very<\/em> little help at all. BBC (unintelligible word) reports that they spend as much. Voice of Netherlands says that 90 percent of all aid US gives is of a military nature, no matter what kind of deprivation a country may be facing, like India now is just being flooded till it looks like a million are going to die in the mon\u2013 monsoon rains.<\/p>\n

Increase in spending power if\u2013 is a function uh, uh, of the rise in the oil prices, says the BBC. Major arms exporting countries\u2013 there is a economic case against arms expenditures, according to some capitalists. Third World countries spend less than one-half percent of their gross national product, one-and-one-half\u2013 anoth\u2013 anoth\u2013 another were the half penny of a dollar on weapons. Countries want security, whether internal or external. Major countries spend from 30\u2013 ten percent, rather, up to 80 percent, which includes USA. While our cities suffer with rot, while our people do not have medical care, USA puts 80 percent of every tax dollar\u2013 That\u2019s how much guilt you should feel this morning and all day long, till People\u2019s Rally tonight, when we have our test at 7:30 promptly. Remember, every time we use a pho\u2013 telephone, every time we got a taxi, every time we went in the bus, every time we bought a car, piece of clothing, television, went to a movie, ate anything out of a supermarket, bought anything , took wages, 80 percent of that tax was going to kill our black brothers, our brown brothers and sisters across the world.<\/p>\n

[Robert] McNamara, President of the World Bank, says countries t\u2013 are too much dependent upon arms race and not enough on development. He said it\u2019s going to l\u2013 end up on catastrophe. Still, Third World countries are spending a great deal now on weapons this year. It\u2019s hard to define offensive as opposed to defensive weapons. 1973, Egyptians were heavily armed. International control to try to establish some kind of a way of increasing national interest in subduing the arms race. US session on disarmament is hypocritical, because US never tries to educate its own<\/em> uh, nations against the arms race. It\u2019s always trying to e\u2013 encourage some nation that\u2019s non-aligned or pro-Soviet.<\/p>\n

The World Health Organization spent in ten years what it cost for one<\/em> new bomber by USA. Just one new bomber. And they make that bomber in less than a day, and it\u2019s only\u2013 That bomber is only one one-thousandth\u2013 no, one ten-thousandth of the entire military cost for a six-month period. Yet, the World Health Organization, in trying to combat hunger and ha\u2013 disease for ten<\/em> years has spent out the nations\u2013 the rich nations of capitalism has only given her enough money \u2013 WHO, that is, World Health Organization \u2013 the price of one new bomber, is all the money they\u2019ve had for ten years.<\/p>\n

BBC comment. Only way to make change is for people to realize that amount expended for armaments compared for how much is needed for people to survive and live well. That if people in the Third World, if they continue to be hungry, they\u2019re going to cause a war, because they will march<\/em> on the affluent nations rather than starve. How much money will be allocated to improve social conditions will determine how much longer US capitalism and British capitalism survives, said BBC.<\/p>\n

Voice of America. Developing countries are stabilizing their economies and hopefully, says V\u2013 Voice of America, they\u2019ll be able to do so with other nations.<\/p>\n

Rhodesian plane crash, as I just told you, 18 survivors, nationalist guerillas arrived and held a people\u2019s court. It was the nationalist element of the uh, P\u2013 Zimbabwean Patriotic Front under Joshua Nkomo. He said they were all criminals, they were in the army and in big business and in government, they said they were all killed, so they were shot four hours later by firing squad. Guerillas came on the scene and opened fire, as I said, immediately when they were fired upon by the survivors first.<\/p>\n

President Carter awaiting the arrival of Egyptian delegation at Camp David, where his chances for political future will rise or fall. Most encouraging fair\u2013 factor, says Carter, is that Egypt is really interested in success.<\/p>\n

Secret meeting, as you know, was held between Ian Smith and Joshua Nkomo. However, President [Julius] Nyerere, a very close friend who\u2019s been to Guyana many times, a very close friend to our Prime Minister, Forbes Burnham, said that this was a wrong thing to do. It only made capitalism stronger, that Joshua Nkomo should not<\/em> have met with Smith. Anyway it showed that Smith was only interested in driving a wedge between Nkome\u2013 N\u2013 Nkomo and Mu\u2013 Mugabe. Uh, however, Joshua Nkomo criticized President Nyerere for making this statement. President Nyerere is a very brave president of\u2013 of Marxist Tanzania. He said that he would give no refugee asylum to N\u2013 Nkomo or any of his allies unless in the future that he negotiated every<\/em> point, hand in glove w\u2013 side by side with Robert Mugabe, Marxist-Leninist leader of the Patriotic Front. Nyerere said that no nationalist can be fully (unintelligible word) depended upon. He said the only people that will bring change of permanent nature to the people are international Marxist-Leninists. That\u2019s the strongest Ny\u2013 Nyerere has ever been, and he receives International Monetary Fund aid, and so do uh, Romania, as far as that go, Rumania receives International Monetary Fund aid. Several<\/em> countries do, but they have not been able to buy their pride or to impose upon their willingness to stand for socialism, live socialism and speak socialism.<\/p>\n

Vice President [Walter] Mondale went to see new Pope John IV [Pope John Paul], uh \u2013 whatever \u2013 sitting on his seat enthroned, I guess. They presented to him his favorite writer\u2019s book. Life on the Mississippi<\/em>. I mean, his favorite writer is Mark Twain, and uh, Vi\u2013 Vice President Mondale, who led the US delegation, gave Pope John IV, Life on the Mississippi<\/em>. I think it\u2019s be good for us if he likes Mark Twain and says the pope\u2019s favorite author is<\/em> Mark Twain, that uh, we should send him Letters from the Earth<\/em> that makes fun of the Bible and God. Maybe we might convert the pope. Let\u2019s think to do that here, and see that that little paperback gets<\/em> to Pope John, as he said to all the world that Mark Twain was his favorite writer. Well, Mark Twain made fun of the Bible, showed that there could<\/em> not be any God, showed all<\/em> the lies in the Bible in Letters from the Earth<\/em>. Of course, Vice President Mondale would not give him that book. It\u2019s a funny, it\u2019s a comedy, and the pope, if he likes<\/em> Mark Twain, should know what Mark Twain stood for. He hated religion, the Bible and God.<\/p>\n

USA has to cut inflation and go back to the prices as they were in the early 1960\u2019s, said IMF and World Bank, if the US is to stabilize the dollar and stave off a depression. If they will do this, they will then curb<\/em> inflation. Then the rest of the world can follow suit and thereby straighten out their monetary systems. However, most world economists say this is dreamy nonsense, dreamy-headed nonsense, that nothing will be able to stave off an inevitable economic crisis, a depression, or a nuclear war.<\/p>\n

Croatian nationalists take over a Yugoslavan [Yugoslavian] embassy and another government building in the capital of Australia, demanding the separation of Croatia, an independent socialist government that would be pro-Soviet.<\/p>\n

New South Wales. There is a general strike in Australia. Train service is all struck in sympathy for the Croatians. There\u2019s a great deal of uh, socialist feeling in Australia. Buses are on strike in Melbourne and in No\u2013 several other cities.<\/p>\n

Australia and New Zealand sees unemployment as increasing, and nothing can be done about it. They blame USA and her monopoly capitalist practices of trying to rake off the highest profits for herself as a major p\u2013 b\u2013 nation responsible for the depression that\u2019s coming on the wa\u2013 on the world. Australia asked to back their foreign investments now, no one will trust the Australian dollar. Australia is slipping behind all other nations technologically, said W\u2013 said Radio Australia, that you get through the Melbourne station.<\/p>\n

Continue with the news.<\/p>\n

Carter explains the weaks\u2013 weak daughter\u2013 dollar. President Carter said yesterday that imports of manufactured goods that US citizens have to have, and not<\/em> imports of oil, have worsened the nation\u2019s trade deficit and eroded the dollar. In fact, Carter said, oil imports have decreased, but our inflation goes up and up, because US populace depend upon too many foreign-made items. Unless the US populace is willing to change, and he thought that was unlikely, the shift will continue until there\u2019s a major economic recession. That\u2019s Carter\u2019s word for what will really be a Depression. The statement made at interview with foreign correspondents marked a significant shift in US strategy on the eve of Carter\u2019s departure for an economic summit conference and economic peace settlement with (pause) you know, E\u2013 Egypt and Israel.<\/p>\n

Continuing with the news, we\u2019ll see if there\u2019s anything that\u2019s worth\u2013 worth your while that you might want to see. Or hear. There\u2019s a lie in the news, you don\u2019t really have to give that much sometimes for you to get the full covering of the day. It is important that you do know what is happening in the world. It\u2019s important now to remember, we must know Rush to Judgment<\/em>, we know\u2013 no, no, no, no, not Rush to Judgment<\/em>, but Mark (pause) Lane should be familiar to us, because he\u2019ll be visiting soon. So will Charles Garry, so you ought to read something of him, as A Street Fighter in the Courtroom<\/em>, his book, and be sure you know the sermon of Mark [Don] Freed, Dr. Freed, who is right now, tomorrow, this<\/em> day rather, going to be holding an important press conference on our behalf.<\/p>\n

The Soviet Union are in the lead as peace race nears end. Prague. Warsaw peace cycle race is in its final stages as we went to press yesterday, said G\u2013 Guyana Chronicle<\/em>. Was clearly destined to prove a triumph for the Soviet bicyclists. Within two days to go, they were leading in both individual and team contests. By the way, we have a interesting uh, sport film in technicolor from Cuba. They are so<\/em> good in every area of sports, which means that they can contend peacefully<\/em> in the sports arena for socialism that some of our sports uh, fans here would see how socialists handle that and use it effectively. It\u2019s important to the body, too, and it can be used that way.<\/p>\n

The World Health Organization is drawing the attention of governments and the world public this year to the problem of hypertension \u2013 high blood pressure \u2013 particularly noted to be the highest in the United States of America. At least a tenth of the world\u2019s population suffer from it. It\u2019s closer to 30<\/em> percent in the United States. It causes complications which lead to at least half the deaths from heart disease, and every third person who has lost his or her capacity for work is suffering from high blood pressure, and it\u2019s due mostly to overeating and being overweight. So we\u2019re counting on you to do something about that.<\/p>\n

Thirty or forty years ago, more than 60 percent of the cases of heart failure proved failure\u2013 fatal within two<\/em> months of their onset in the Soviet Union. Today in the Soviet Union, four and half patients out of five recover and return to active work, due to the scientific and medical breakthroughs of Soviet medicine. Practical preventative and research work in this field is coordinated by the uh, uh, All Union Cardiological Research Center, Moscow, founded two years ago, and particularly by its Department of Preventative Medicine, where teams go through every city, village and countryside, for no matter how much we improve treatment, the Soviet Union says, the main thing is to prevent the disease as early as possible. You know in USA that children are now dying at 12 and 13 years of age, due to poor diet from heart attacks. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Let us continue with the news. In the sixty years of Soviet government, the productive\u2013 bu\u2013 productivity of labor has grown at an unprecedented rate. It is now 47 times what it was before the Revolution, and in the seven years \u2013 1971 through \u201977 \u2013 resulted in as much output as could have been produced by an extra 12 million or more workers. That\u2019s how much each worker produces in the USSR. Rising productivity\u2013 Remember, now, uh, how whatever\u2013 We have to move fast, we give our answers to our test as we go through to our meal and then we go back to the uh, end of the line. Rising productivity accounts for four-fifths of the increase in Soviet industrial output. In 1913, the Russian worker was producing barely a tenth as much as the average American and a fifth of the British worker\u2019s output. By 196\u2013 \u201976, however, the Soviet worker had not only caught up and passed<\/em> uh, the USA and Britain and all European countries, b\u2013 it was nearly twice ahead of the average US citizen in productivity. That gap was narrowed completely by the end of 1976. Productivity in the USSR has grown over six hundred and seventeen times, but in the United States, since\u2013 in the same period of 1951 to \u201976, the productivity of the worker has only increased 2.4 times. (Conversational tone) Can you imagine that? Six hundred times as a point to\u2013 (stumbles over words) opposed to only three times. Anyone with their right mind would know that socialism is superior. (Returns to reading) In many Soviet enterprises labor productivity is today higher than in any<\/em> American ones, even the most sophisticated. For the future, we plan an average rise, said Radio Moscow, of 30 percent of production every year. During the current 1976-80 uh, to eight\u2013 through the 1980 Five Year Plan, nine-tenths of the planned growth of industrial output is already obtained \u2013 the higher productivity, that is \u2013 already here in 1978. They have done 90 percent of the Five Year Plan goal. That is amazing. What an amazing people. What a united people. What a people in solidarity. It shows\u2013 Radio Moscow reveals the number of spinning wheels that they\u2019re making these days, so that seniors have something they\u2013 they can do to provide beauty to the culture.<\/p>\n

The case of Yuri Orlov. Yuri Orlov has been called the great human rights case in uh, United States. Carter has been screaming about Yuri Orlov. Y-u-r-y O-r-l-o-v. He was sentenced in Moscow, merely because of his views (Pause) and his ideas about human rights? That quote is typical of the reports of last week\u2019s trial in the Western capitalist press and radio. But that\u2019s not the truth. Orlov was in fact<\/em> charged with specific criminal acts, not<\/em> because of any anti-Soviet views. Orlov is described by the West as a physicist. He had indeed worked as a physicist, until 1974, when he resigned his job to take up more lucrative\u2013 uh, lucrative mean more mu\u2013 where he could make much more money, more lucrative employment. Evidence before the court, evidence not refuted even once, not denied by Orlov, showed that from 1974, he devoted himself to the profession of supplying information to the Western press, radio, and CIA. Communications between Orlov and Radio Liberty, a fascist radio propaganda device of the US and her imperialist lackeys, and the NATO psychological warfare centers, which were confiscated, were produced in evidence. And independent observers were called from Sweden and Finland and other nations. All agreed that Orlov was a spy. They showed that the falsifications as slanders he practiced were not<\/em> only the result of his desire to impress his customers, but had the clear specific aim of compromising the Soviet socialist system in the eyes of the capitalist public, and undermining its pres\u2013 prestige. Documents and evidence from witnesses exposed the methods he adopted. Fictitious names were entered into lists of sufferers for conscience. Facts were distorted, and brazen lies were told. For example, in August 1976, he floated a story that the Supreme Court of Latvia had given prison sentences to four doctors who took part in a five-day strike in protest against Fish-Only Days at the local canteen. In fact<\/em>, there were no Fish-Only Days, and no strike, and the four men whose names had been\u2013 he had given, had never<\/em> worked in the po\u2013 port of Riga in the first place, nor had criminal proceedings ever been taken against any of them.<\/p>\n

Another completely false story, a lie, to the effect that Jews living in the village of Ilynka and in the (unintelligible name) Region were being deliberately isolated from the outside world, was used enthusiastically<\/em> by US and her Western imperialist correspondent. Victor Parasov (phonetic), chairman of Ilynka (unintelligible names) collective farm, told the court that Ilynka was a modern village with a school, a club, shops, medical and other services. Jews living there freely<\/em> conducted their religious services in their own synagogue. It was ridiculous<\/em> to talk about isolation. But Western imperialism will do anything, said Radio Moscow, to get the world\u2019s eyes off of their own crimes against their minorities, and their genocide, the extermination that they have planned for all people of color. As a result of Orlov\u2019s in\u2013 inventions, some Ilynka villagers received invitations from abroad to reunite with non-existent relatives. The farmers wrote to the Israeli Foreign Ministry protesting against these activities.<\/p>\n

Orlov frequently produced documents alleging psychiatric repression for political beliefs. Nonsense. These lies too were inventions, as psychiatrists confirmed, from Finland and from Sweden, neutral sources. Orlov also invented stories about living conditions and food at corrective labor colonies. Witnesses from the collective camps of rehabi\u2013 rehabilitation, as the Soviets call them, in question, confirm that these<\/em> reports had no basis in fact, that conditions were normal. This was attested by the United Nations uh, Select Committee of Non-Aligned Nations.<\/p>\n

Forced to admit the distortions and lies, exaggerations and inventions in his writings, Orlov tried to defend his right to make mistakes, claiming that they were not scientific works but journalism. Asked whether he had verified his facts before sending his articles abroad, he said, he had unqualified trust in the civil right champions who were his sources. He was questioned closely on his report about abuse of psychiatry, and it quickly became clear that he knew nothing at all<\/em> about psychiatry. However, he did give particular secrets about Soviet breakthroughs in paranormal. That\u2019s what I have, the gifts that the Soviets are interested in studying, this facet. They don\u2019t have an individual with the power that I can show and represent, by healing the sick or raising the dead, or correcting a crippled body, and we need to show a great deal of gratitude for those things. We see it happen every day. But anyway, he was getting into that sensitive area and giving documentation, secret state information to the CIA. Nothing that vitally affected their work, but he was trying to.<\/p>\n

How then, he was asked, was he able to write about it with such confidence in the foreign press, if indeed, uh, uh, it was just uh, a clear uh, acceptable exchange of ideas. His only answer was that acquaintances in the medical profession shared his views. Evidence brought forward included documents produced by Orlov, the spy for USA, which he dis\u2013 disseminated, spread through the anti-Soviet publications of the West, among them (Russian name), published by the notorious organization of fascists, known as NTS. NTS, the Peoples Labor Alliance, was set up by the White Russian fascist \u00e9migr\u00e9s in the early 1930s, and later joined by \u00e9migr\u00e9s who made their way to the West during the Second World War, and went through China, causing China to this day to have a real hurt and prejudice against Russia, because they really raped Russia, they were so bigoted. The first program of the NTS specifically said that its aims were the overthrow of the Communist regime. And the White Russians went through China, and that\u2019s what caused China, I should say, to hate Russia, because they can\u2019t yet separate their mind, those White Russian fascists who were fleeing [Josef] Stalin and the Communist Revolution, from White Russians in general. As I said, the first program of the NTS, the fascist organization, specifically said that its aims were the overthrow of communist and socialist regimes, and the establishment of capitalist private property systems. (Russian name) has been\u2013 has even boasted of the links between the NTS and the treacherous General [Andrey] Vlasov\u2013 Vlasov army, which fought on the side of [Adolf] Hitler\u2019s Nazis during the Soviet people\u2013 against the Soviet people, which killed 22 million people in Soviet Russia during the war. The NTS base in Western Europe works closely with and is financed by CIA and all other Western capitalist intelligence agencies. Thus that much for the so-called human rights case of Yuri Orlov, CIA agent and traitor to the Soviet people. It\u2019s good to get the proper slant on things. Unfortunately, we really don\u2019t ever get the truth, it doesn\u2019t seem. We don\u2019t get the truth as we should.<\/p>\n

Italy has not yet overcome the shock of the abduction and assassination of Aldo Moro, widely seen as a challenge to all democ\u2013 Italy\u2019s republican and democratic institutions. Italy has stirred\u2013 stood firm, although at a great price, the life of an outstanding political and government leader, said Sweden. Giving you another point of view. By giving a vote of confidence on May 17 to the [Giulio] Andreotti government and its uh, so-called anti-terrorist decree, the Italian parliament demonstrate its determination to thwart the plans of terrorism. At the same time, Aldo Moro\u2019s kidnap and abduct\u2013 abduction and assassination drew attention to the shortcomings and flaws in the work of the government machine. This fact is now being used by the forces long\u2013 longing for a strong arm and firm order. The right wing Italian newspaper Tempo<\/em>, for instance, has called for a return to the times when the Christian Democratic Party was strong. Italy was\u2013 (Pause) Now, let me see here. (Pause) Where Italy was quiet and there was law and order. In\u2013 Is that what Aldo Moro\u2019s killers want? Doesn\u2019t this mean a return to dictatorship and a rabid anti-communist policy? For the terrorist action was primarily aimed at disrupting the parliamentary majority, which includes the communists and which was supported by Moro. That parliamentary majority has weathered the storm, and a few days ago, about four million Italians who went to the polls at the partial administrative elections, once again confirmed their confidence in the democratic parties and the communist parties included. It did not<\/em> work out to be an act or terrorism. Even so, says Radio Sweden, the right wing extremists hope to gain from the death of Aldo Moro and may have even funded it. But they lost a substantial number of votes, and the left was not hurt in Italy, as a socialist was elected in the place of Aldo Moro.<\/p>\n

Thus ends news for the day. Be sure you study the last tape, at last People\u2019s Rally. Be sure you study it very carefully \u2013 that would be last Tuesday\u2019s \u2013 and know the film Harlan County<\/em>, if you have to take it in the afternoon. Be prepared for test at 7:30 definitely. All my love. Work as hard as we can to free our people, because we\u2019re up against a enemy that goes for the jugular. It\u2019s a miracle we\u2019ve survived, that none have died, that none have been killed, no accidents, and none have been shot, except one [likely Chris Lewis] who would not mind my business, would not stay where he wou\u2013 had safety, and insisted on going back, when told by prophecy that what would happen to him. Keep the truth. Follow the teachings. Listen to your Office about safety measures. Be very, very cautious about all safety measures during this cycle. Much love. I say it often, but I cannot tell you enough how much you are my life and my loves. Have a good day.<\/p>\n

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Tape originally posted February 2016<\/strong><\/p>\n

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