{"id":68787,"date":"2017-03-13T14:37:06","date_gmt":"2017-03-13T21:37:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=68787"},"modified":"2023-06-17T13:30:39","modified_gmt":"2023-06-17T20:30:39","slug":"q977-transcript","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=68787","title":{"rendered":"Q977 Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"

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(This tape was transcribed by Georgiana Mamlakah. The editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/em><\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Well, I could go on and on and on and on and on\u2013 Where are those things? (unintelligible word) but there\u2019s no point to it because you get it by osmosis. You get it by watching and observing, not by teaching. Don\u2019t think anybody ever gets it by teaching. You gotta want<\/em> to be right, and so you\u2019re so miserable over here, the aroundings\u2013 surroundings so beautiful, and these children so lovely. Tics that have gon\u2013 disappeared, and stuttering and stammering that have disappeared. Aggressiveness that\u2019s gone. Think of little Raymond whose cried like a\u2013 a s\u2013 frightened animal, didn\u2019t even know that he\u2019d uh, could ever come to any kind of human consciousness at one point, now so sharp and quick-witted and mischievous and little sense of humor. And you so important that you don\u2019t get to\u2013 Every time I ask some of you how you are, (Mocking voice) well, I\u2019m getting used to living in the country.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Stirs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Normal tone) Bless your heart. I feel so sorry for you. You\u2019re so<\/em> important. I know you descended from the president or the king of England. You probably polished his shoes along with my<\/em> family, or you stole the king\u2019s horse along with one of the Jones boys. Shit on you people and your ancestry.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Now I know that some of these people writing their\u2013 uh, their loved ones. I\u2019ve been spending all of my time tracing my ancestry. That\u2019s the new thing since Roots<\/em>. Goddamn people contemplating their navel, either meditating or doing some yoga exercise, or s\u2013 going to some guru or in some prayer meeting where now they\u2019re tr\u2013 tracing their roots<\/em>. Who the fuck gives a goddamn where our roots come from?<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I know where my roots come from. It\u2019s jumping down there in th\u2013 in the cage. It\u2019s jumping right down there and going (makes ape noises). That\u2019s where we come from, right from the fucking ape.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Cheer and applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> If you\u2019re some special creature\u2013 If you\u2019re some special creature, you oughta be in better shape than the ape, but he\u2013 Shit, he can\u2013 he can fight with his hands and<\/em> his feet.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He\u2019s more advanced than you are, and you think you\u2019re a creature of divine<\/em> providence and you\u2019re going to come in contact with your inner psyche or whatever the fuck you pray to. I\u2013 (chuckles) I\u2019m sure if there had been a loving God, he\u2019d at least<\/em> given us both uh, the ability to use our hands and legs to fight<\/em> with, as well as wings to fly like an eagle. He\u2019s a motherfucker.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> (Call out)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Give all them white angels wings to fly around all over God\u2019s heaven, nothing to do.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Fuck face blonde white angels flying all around through heaven, and made us crippled<\/em> down here, by God. If he\u2019da loved us, he\u2019d at least<\/em> given us an M16.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Scattered applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He\u2019d uh\u2013 Some\u2013 I know some of you men\u2013 I know<\/em> some of you men think your dick is something wonderful, but you<\/em> can\u2019t even piss<\/em> enough to put a fire<\/em> out, much less shoot<\/em> anybody with it.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Calls and applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Mmm-mm [Yes]. (Pause) If there was any divine providence that care\u2013 cared, he woulda put pistols in our breast and pistols in our dick<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> All right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Because you need<\/em> to get through this capitalist, racist place. You need everything you got that has an end, oughta shoot<\/em> somebody.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Scattered applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And we weren\u2019t built in with anything to shoot<\/em> folk with, and no way to fly to get away from the sons of bitches. So ain\u2019t nobody that cares but Father.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And there\u2019s no salvation but socialism.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And if you got any time to do<\/em> anything, quit<\/em> reading this religious shit that you\u2019ve carried over from the States. Little old pages that you kept stuck uh, down in your clothes. Hope to hell you\u2013 I hope to hell it causes you inventigo [impetigo]. (Pause) Quit<\/em> all that bullshit, the whispering, the Bible verses across to somebody else, telling how you once knew the Lord. You (stumbles over words) low down goddamn liar. You never knew the Lord.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That chimpanzee\u2019s the one that met the Lord, \u2018cause he could wipe us all out, if he got turned loose here tonight.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We\u2019re creatures of weakness, and no divine power cares a shit about us. Unless it\u2019s a slave<\/em>master who wants weaklings<\/em> for servants<\/em>. \u2018Cause we\u2019re the weakest<\/em> of all possible creatures and the stupidest<\/em>. A chimpanzee won\u2019t mess up his environment, but we<\/em> destroy environment in a matter of years till you can\u2019t live in it. Then we fix up weapons to destroy everything\u2019s<\/em> environment, every<\/em> goddamn thing standing on the edge of man\u2019s inhumanity to man. Just a button, just push a goddamn button tonight, and it\u2019s all over with. That\u2019s man\u2019s<\/em> genius. (Pause) And it\u2019s marvelous that some of you feel that you are so<\/em> important, but it doesn\u2019t take away from the importance of socialism, because it\u2019s been seen in Cuba, it\u2019s been seen in Vietnam, it\u2019s been seen in Cambodia, it\u2019s been seen vividly<\/em> to you in the body of Jim Jones.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And so you\u2019re an animal. You might as well be a directed<\/em> conscious<\/em>–driven<\/em> animal than an animal moved by lust. Say, (mocking voice) I want to live like I want to live. (Normal tone) That\u2019s fine. You better be tougher than the next<\/em> guy, \u2018cause if everybody starts to living by this lust and doing their own goddamn thing, watch it, friend. Somebody\u2019s going to do his own thing and decide to cut your throat.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> (Call out)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (chuckles) That\u2019s all so well when you\u2019re doing the throat<\/em>-cuttin\u2019, but there\u2019s always some bigger fucker that can cut a throat better than you<\/em> can cut a throat.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> So we better get organized for the sake of our children, or we\u2019re not giving them any future. It\u2019s easier to say there\u2019s no meaning<\/em> to anything, there\u2019s no purpose<\/em> to anything, I don\u2019t give a shit. Jim Jones is a mutation. Nobody can be like<\/em> him. Communism won\u2019t work<\/em>. Well, that\u2019s just an easy way of saying, I\u2019m a selfish<\/em> son-of-a-bitch. I want to do my own goddamn thing. I don\u2019t give a goddamn<\/em> about children. I don\u2019t give a fuck<\/em> if they all<\/em> die. I<\/em> want to do my<\/em> precious thing. I hope I\u2019ve gotten through to some of you tonight, as you shift your butt or shift your toes. (Long pause) I want everybody to be scheduled to go around and see the chickens. I want you to have to love them. And I want you to have to observe them in the nightmare of their agony. Then I want you to see if you feel like you\u2019re important<\/em>. And I want you to think if it\u2019s not important that we build a society that can protect our<\/em> children from having the same thing happen to them that a chicken has happened to it, because of our own lust for flesh, our own anarchy, our own self-destructive nature. (voice rises) Only in a world built through the principles of Marxist-Leninism, through Communist sensitivity, only by that kind of a world (Voice moderates) can we avoid, not only chickens having their heads cut off, but humans<\/em> having theirs. \u2018Cause remember, it\u2019s not been too long ago since heads were cut off in Germany, and heads were cut off in Turkey. Two million Armenians were slaughtered like animals, slaughtered like pigs. Humans have been slaughtered just like chickens. And some of you are out<\/em> of touch, you are so in love with yourself and believe you\u2019re such a creature<\/em> of divine<\/em> worth, that you<\/em> need to look a little bit more at suffering. So I invite everybody, every department, every home, every cottage, to schedule a time to find out when the chickens\u2013 (long pause) Just watching some of you sleeping. It\u2019s amazing how you can sit\u2013 uh, set straight up and sleep and young. (Pause) Say, I can\u2019t help sleeping. Oh yes, you can. If you care enough about what\u2019s being said, you don\u2019t sleep.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Short laugh) When you do a lot of sleeping, it shows that you are forgetting the importance of what\u2019s being said. And if you were practicing<\/em> what I was saying<\/em>, that\u2019d be another thing. You\u2019d be entitled to sleep. But so frequently,<\/em> the people that do the sleeping don\u2019t practice a damn thing that I say\u2013<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013 or not enough<\/em> of what I say. Anyone have any question? (Pause) Anyone have any criticism<\/em>? Any<\/em> criticism? As long as you do it publicly, we have no objections to it whatsoever. It\u2019s a nightmare back there, you oughta be glad you\u2019re settin\u2019 here tonight. Say, I don\u2019t know what the future holds. You sure as hell know what the future holds, if you go back there. My lawyer\u2019s representing 12 cases now, there\u2019re 70 or 80 more, and you\u2019re sure one of them. Most all of you\u2019d be one of them. You know what you face back there, no hope, no organization, no structure, not even sure you\u2019d have another day\u2019s meal, and we know \u2013<\/em> Yes \u2013 we know<\/em> that you will eat for a while<\/em> here. We have chickens in the freezer, we have these lovely bean patties that taste like a delicious hamburger.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Like they\u2013 Chili sauce, when they put them in chili sauce, taste better<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And they certainly<\/em> me\u2013 m\u2013 have much better settling effect on your stomach. We know<\/em> that we got pigs down there, we can eat for many, many days.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You go back to the United States, you don\u2019t know anything.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You don\u2019t know whether you\u2019ll be arrested. Told someone to settle their ass and not go back to the United States, and stay where he\u2013 stay put, uh, but they never listen to me. Person came over here and went back and is in jail tonight. Oh, I\u2019ll get him out \u2013 I always do \u2013 but some time it\u2019ll stop<\/em>, because when we\u2019re gone<\/em> from there, I won\u2019t have any structure left<\/em> to get<\/em> them out. And I\u2019m going to be concentrating my power here, but they\u2013 they came\u2013 They thought, oh, well, I\u2019m gonna come and I\u2019m gonna go. Well, they come and they went, and they went to jail. But the first time they get in the goddamn jail, they start screaming Jim Jones.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Yeah.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You think you\u2019ve missed something in America. You\u2019ve lost nothing. You knew people oughta be required to sit in orientation class, and orientation class should give them some of the things we\u2019ve told\u2013 talked about, \u2018cause I\u2019m tired of going over it. The atomic war that you\u2019re certainly going to see, where children would melt before your eyes and maybe die after 30 or 40 agonizing days. Or earthquakes that are long overdue here, and here we don\u2019t have any earthquakes or<\/em> hurricanes or any<\/em> act of nature. Ecology that\u2019s so imbalance in\u2013 in California, no water and n\u2013 not enough crops, already we\u2019re suffering the blight throughout the\u2013 droughts throughout the entirety<\/em> of the United States. Weapons of\u2013 such as the neutron bomb that caused the United Nations to cry out against it in the human rights con\u2013 conference to call out as it\u2013 be calling it a gross humanity\u2013 inhumanity. And even uh, the Com Com nations in Europe, the Eurocom\u2019s nations cried out against the inhumanity of our neutron bomb and our buzz bomb. Our buzzard missile, our buzz missile. What is it\u2013 That isn\u2019t the word. Buzz missile. What is it? What is it, [Henry] Mercer? Buzz<\/em> bomb, yes. Mercer<\/em> heard the same newscast. Neutron bombs<\/a> that destroy whole ghettos, whole neighborhoods, and won\u2019t touch a piece of paper so that the rich can keep the property\u2013 (Calls out) Wake up there! What are some of the other things? We have to remind some of these people, \u2018cause they don\u2019t know. They think they\u2019re so important, they should be able to do where they want to go, go swimming, buy a McDonald hamburger\u2013 Senate Bill what?<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> 1472.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> 1472. Yes, it\u2019s something like that.<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That says that if a police officer\u2013 what?<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> \u2013 stops you and you don\u2019t answer the question the way he<\/em> thinks it should be answered, you\u2019ve committed a crime.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Stirs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Lowering the death penalty to 14\u2013 What is it?<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2013 Say that again, Danny.<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yes. Yes. The Supreme Court did something today, and I\u2019ve forgotten, a terrible thing, I\u2019ve forgotten\u2013 Another w\u2013 another nullification of human rights, but I\u2013 We got the worse goddamn Supreme Court. [Warren] Burger was an Assistant Attorney General back in the dark era of the McCarthy or the white era of the McCarthy period. But now he\u2019s the Sup\u2013 the Supreme<\/em> Justice of the Supreme Court. And it\u2019s cut back on civil rights and civil liberties strides that have been made for half a century. Not only do we have that kind of a court, we\u2019ve got a\u2013 a\u2013 a Congress that\u2019s rightwing as hell. There\u2019s all kind of the news that is raving about Andy Young being a Communist and a racist. And all the American people are upset about the signing of the Panama Canal Treaty. Doesn\u2019t look at all like that they\u2019ve got enough Senators to make it a\u2013 uh, to ratify it, and that means certain hell breaking loose in Latin America, because Latin America\u2019s had enough<\/em> of Yankee imperialism. Nuclear war\u2013 Jesus Christ. Soviets developing laser bombs, according to Swiss authorities, laser beams that can stop nuclear missiles, and thus give a strong prerogative for them to start a nuclear war before the United States extends their murder conspiracy to South Africa, that\u2019s on the border of making bomb stockpiles. Union of South Africa even has been accused by Radio Angola of giving\u2013 the United States has given them the neutron bomb, so they can destroy black ghettos, black reservations. That\u2019s<\/em> the hell that you left the United States, that you want to go back to. Yes, Dr. [Laurence] Schacht?<\/p>\n

Schacht:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Coming ice age, yes. It\u2019s awful to be cold. Yes?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Thank you, Helen, that\u2019s a\u2013 that shows a really acute senior mind. Said, refusal to sign the genocide treaty, which is merely a statement that you will not murder off whole races and nations of people, and United States and Chile and one other was the only three nations of the world \u2013 South Africa \u2013 that will not sign that treaty, called the genocide treaty. The United States refuses<\/em> to sign that they will not (cries out) murder<\/em> off segments or races of people in their own population, or the world. Yes, uh\u2013 Carter?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Cliometric theory, where you have black and white economists saying that some were meant to be slaves. You got [U. J.] Jensen and this other j\u2013 uh, the genesis\u2013 they\u2019re not even gen\u2013 geneticist, running through Australia, uh, all through the white world now, and America, propagating that whites are superior and blacks were meant to be inferior, and that if there\u2019s a population problem, blacks should be sterilized. That\u2019s what he said in Melbourne, Australia yesterday or the day before. That\u2019s a very nice philosophy. University of California givin\u2019 that shit. And the majority of University [of] California, one of the most liberal schools in America\u2013 Yes, when you wave your finger and I wave back, you\u2019ll\u2013 Ninety-some percent of its assets in stocks and bonds and in corporate investments in the Union of South A\u2013 Africa, where black people are being killed by the tens of thousands. [Steve] Biko\u2013 Biko, a young black\u2013 young uh, six days, a leader, revolutionary leader died of starvation in six days in the South African prison just a few days ago. That\u2019s America in 1977. Yes. (Pause) Yes, Brother [Marshall] Farris.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Bakke decision. President [Jimmy Carter] come out again\u2013 Uh\u2013 He\u2013 he came out for it too. President did, yes. Bakke decision says that black people should not be given \u2013 Asiatic, Indians \u2013 should not be given special opportunities. No quota system. Supreme Court certainly seemed very, very encouraging to the same philosophy too. (Calls out) All kinds of bad things back in America. Yes?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Ethnic weapons, where they talk openly. Dr. Richard Hammerschlag wrote about it in Jet<\/em>, wrote about it in l\u2013 Life<\/em>\u2013 Time Life<\/em>, and he said\u2013 he wrote that letter, that pitiful letter I\u2019ll never forget, to Peoples Temple, saying we were the only people that thanked him for exposing the horrible things that was being conducted, again<\/em> right in the University of California, some of these experiments to create weapons to kill black people, Indian people, Asiatic people, were being conducted with University [of] California scientist and expenditures. Yes. Yes, dear.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> God knows the Ku Klux Klan. Twenty new chapters the last time I read, which is weeks ago, in California in a matter of weeks. Yes.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yes. Richard\u2013 uh, Dr. Earhard\u2019s statement about what the Shah of Iran and the Saudi of Ar\u2013 A\u2013 Arabia [Khalid bin Abdulaziz al Saud] will do through manipulation of prices, and the Shah of Iran has a messianic complex, and a very evil, evil person who never gets enough, and he\u2019s manipulating oil prices to such a degree and trying to get a hold of the most technically-advanced nuclear weapons, and he suggest that there\u2019ll be a nuclear war by 1979, and great economic crash<\/em> in 1979, and says being read by the economists of the world and all leaders of the world and believed<\/em>. You know all about that. Someone can teach you in the school or you can ask about it, the failure of the market, \u2018cause we have a market that\u2019s based on oil. We can easily be manipulated it by oil, and if the Shah\u2019s of Iran chooses to, and the Saud of Ar\u2013 Arab\u2013 Arabia chooses to, it can put us all<\/em> out of business, because nothing<\/em> runs without oil. United States could be put out of business. We<\/em> couldn\u2019t here. We don\u2019t have to have lights. Say, we don\u2019t know what to hunt. We\u2019d find<\/em> something in two to three days, I bet you, if your ass had<\/em> to.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd: <\/strong>That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You\u2019d find a whole lot of things you don\u2019t think you can eat now. People keep asking (imitate woman voice) when\u2019s the snake coming, when\u2019s the snake coming. (Normal tone) Honey, you\u2019ve already ea the snake and didn\u2019t know it.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter and applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You make my ass tired, some of you.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I heard people remarkin\u2019 when they were eatin\u2019 snake, just eatin\u2019 it down and then mixed up in the rice, said (imitates woman\u2019s voice) oh, that\u2019s tasty, that tasty chicken.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Look at the faces, some of the people up here. You oughta be up here where I\u2019m (unintelligible).<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I like that sister the other day, when they was a\u2013 uh, s\u2013 some days weeks ago they were\u2013 they found bugs in the rice (imitates woman yelling) (unintelligible) this rice, there\u2019s bugs in here. (Normal voice) Said, you oughta be glad, that\u2019s a little bit additional protein. Eat it and shut up.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> The twins were talking, joking about the\u2013 the\u2013 the\u2013 that this\u2019s got to be snake and someone overheard them and gagged on it while they were eating.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> But it wasn\u2019t snake that they were eating.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Stirs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> So you don\u2019t know when you ate the snake. You oughta be glad for snake to eat<\/em>. It\u2019s rich in protein, and it\u2019s a very easily digested. You get some good enzymes, best meat in the world. They\u2019ll pay 17, 20 dollars years ago for rattlesnake in the fanciest hotel in New York City or San Francisco. Now\u2013 Now, my love, you fuss about the thought of eating a snake. I\u2019d like a report on anybody that gags when they think about snake, \u2018cause you think you\u2019re too important. You think you\u2019re above a zero.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Be grateful for anything that eats, that you ca\u2013 that you can live, and snake is tasty and frog is tasty, and there oughta be people out there getting those frogs now. Yes.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I got new batteries. They oughta be back in the business. Anyone else that has something to think of what we saved<\/em> ourselves from. It\u2019s necessary that we review. Sister Bea.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, the vicious smear<\/em>. Control of the press. The myth of the adversary press is certainly gone in our minds. The manipulation of the press, big business, how it works and designs to destroy<\/em> groups like us. Any other group would\u2019ve been wiped out. They\u2019da wiped us out, if it hadn\u2019t been who it is, [if] it hadn\u2019t been who I am, what we are, we\u2019da been wiped out.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Don\u2019t have to set under that shit anymore. And when some black person kills somebody a\u2013 a zebra<\/em> (pause) and 35 white people can be uh, murdering all over the United States and not a word in the press. A man in Dayton had killed 37 young black people. They never did a goddamn thing<\/em> about it, till he shot down a white man who\u2019d been working for civil rights, but he was too important and then they found him. (voice rises) Never a word in the press<\/em> about it, (moderates) until they found him shooting a white<\/em> man. It\u2019s all right to kill 36 black youngsters, but don\u2019t shoot a white person. You oughta be glad\u2013 Some of you\u2013 you remember just what you want to remember. You stack the case.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> TV and bullshit. I don\u2019t what the hell you missing a TV. Goddamn, I never saw a good TV program in 20 years.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. So true.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Movies were stale. Hell\u2019s fire. Here we can communicate and think, and we could read<\/em> if you would. Yes, Sister Belle.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, they\u2019re talk about that\u2013 (chuckles) She\u2013 she\u2019s right, they\u2019re talking about making a maximum requirement of\u2013 of how long you can live<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, no doubt.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (sighs) Euthanasia. Yeah, I\u2019m sure they\u2019re not done out of mercy. Yes, Lois.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s true. Captive\u2013 capitalist slave commodities. As I was saying today, you are nothing but a package commodity, and some of you still<\/em> think that way. You don\u2019t look at a young man or a young woman in the terms of how much character they have. You look at them in terms of what their so-called outward appearance is. Some of you make me very ill. You\u2019ll notice a person that comes with better clothes or little\u2013 some tinsel superficial thing on their clothing or the way they fix their hair. There ought not to be such judgments, such false judgments made in this<\/em> house.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Some of you still think there\u2019s a special love for you, and shit. You\u2013 you wait till your\u2013 You wait till your dick<\/em> begins to wrinkle, and your vagina begins to slip<\/em>. You\u2019ll find out how much special love there is for you.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And ah, yes, Rodney.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> It\u2019s\u2013 it\u2019s\u2013 it\u2019s depressing. If it weren\u2019t for certain rules of conduct here, people would\u2019ve broken every relationship, both back in the States and<\/em> here. (Pause) Tried to<\/em> do it, we well know. We know how well they tried to do it. Yes, brother.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yes, the files, the myriad numbers of files, COINTELPRO, and system files now, that push a button\u2013 A policeman can push a button out on the beat, and in a manner of minutes, he\u2019s got your full report, even what you owe to some store, what your credit<\/em> rating is. Yes, Dorothy?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Concentration camps. Nazism. Yes, that\u2019s obvious. Dictatorship and the horrible, horrible, horrible<\/em> death in a nuclear war, \u2018cause it doesn\u2019t happen suddenly. Particularly if it\u2019s like the humane policies of the Soviet Union, they\u2019ll knock out the industrial might<\/em> and the military might, and there\u2019ll be people left. And the Soviets will be forced to do it, if they have laser beam, because the United States has no mercy, no compassion. And much, much time. If we can hold out,<\/em> you\u2019ll see why you\u2019re here. [If] You can hold out, you\u2019ll certainly be thanking and kissing the dirt. Oh, some of you already are thankful that you\u2019re here, but some of you\u2019ll be very, very thankful if you\u2019ll just hold out.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> In a world gone mad with nuclear war, you\u2019ll be glad you got jungle in which you can roam.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s why I say we should have such a will and determination that no<\/em> one will break our ranks. The Indians rather than be free\u2013 enslaved, when they were brought on reservations, even though they were given homes and comforts and blankets that some of you seem to be\u2013 think you can\u2019t live without, they would commit suicide with threads of their own clothes rather than lose their freedom. To be out where nature was, to have the wide extended plains and the forest meant more to them than all the so-called accoutrements of soci\u2013 of modern society. Yes, Brother Mercer?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He\u2019s right. They\u2019re not making any\u2013 any\u2013 any uh, headway at all.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> It\u2019s true. He\u2013 he listens to the news every day. Yes, Yes. What is it, hon?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Food riots, race riots, and already you can feel the race hate when they\u2019ve got enough to eat. You can cut it with a knife. Yes, Tommy?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, yeah. You help seniors\u2013 If you\u2013 if you help seniors provide the\u2013 the things for them above their income and guarantees of certain things, you can\u2019t\u2013 you can\u2019t do that. That\u2019s against the law.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> What did you say, honey? Water shortage in\u2013 which we saw before we left, people shoot each other, uh, white neighbor shootin\u2019 each other. Yes?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Thank you. (pause) Yes?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Ethnic purity, and we\u2019ll hear a hell of a lot more of that before it\u2019s finished. And you can hear Mr. [Lou] Gurvich, a Jew, telling that uh, blacks are no good, and they\u2019re inferior and not worth living. And you can hear him (stumbles over words) teach hate against other Jews, and a lot of folk do that. Cross over and try to act like they\u2019re a Protestant or a Catholic. Love Jesus and hate Jews. Blame the Jews for killing Jesus, and I wish one of them had. Lenny Bruce said the only thing he was\u2013 regretted<\/em> was that he couldn\u2019t write a note some time before he died and say, I did it. (short laugh)<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And I wish somebody\u2019d killed him before he ever got started, \u2018cause that son a bitch has caused more<\/em> trouble. Da\u2013 They oughta killed him when he was out there moaning and groaning in the garden, when he was out there\u2013 There was some place\u2013 Kill him before they put him on that fucking tree so they can hang that around their neck. Lenny Bruce said, what the\u2013 look awful crazy if somebody\u2019d go hanging around somebody\u2013 casket around their neck, but that\u2019s what we do. Hang Jesus around our neck. Then we call\u2013 They call us programized because we reject all<\/em> that nonsense. I wish he\u2019d never been. I wish Jesus had never come along with all the bullshit that\u2019s been coming\u2013 that\u2019s come out of it. It hasn\u2019t been worth the good. I wish Mary\u2019d got kicked in the ass before she ever had him.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Got knocked up by a donkey.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> Laughs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> See, you people are still\u2013 you got sa\u2013 uh, sacrosanct attitudes. You\u2013 you\u2013 you\u2013 you don\u2019t like that\u2013 they don\u2019t like that. They\u2019re\u2013 there stopping of laughter. You can tell it by the stopping of laughter. I said I would\u2013 I said I would wish Mary had been kicked in the ass with a donkey and kicked in the abdomen with a donkey, so Jesus would have been born dead.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Roger, and if the Jews killed him, bravo.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> All credit to \u2018em. Son of a bitch oughta been dead. More wars, more wars have been fought, more race prejudice been taught, more bigotry has been instilled in the name of Jesus than anything you could think of.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> The name of Jesus has brought more pain and more harm and more heartache and more wars than any<\/em> good that\u2019s ever come out of it.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> In fact, the only good that ever come out of the name of Jesus is what I brought out of it.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And I could have brought good out of it in the name of Marx and Lenin.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I didn\u2019t need Jesus.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Thank you. (Pause) Somebody was arguing over here today under the tent, uh, no, yesterday under the tent saying (imitates a young woman voice) uh, I don\u2019t know why they talking about Lenin all the time, when we got Jesus that we can teach about.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> (Calls out)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Chuckles) I heard somebody else say, who is Lenin? (Pause) Shit, you hear when you walk by, would make your heart ache. Yes. I think we\u2019ve given enough reasons why<\/em> you should be grateful you\u2019re here.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> With land, where the bush cow, tapir, and laba [labarria snmake] out there, delicious, the most delicious meats that are out there. We\u2019ll get them if we have to. We can find it when the need comes. You got room<\/em> out there, but in San Francisco, you never saw potatoes grow on Steiner Street.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Ain\u2019t ain\u2019t been a jackleg rabbit run down Geary Avenue in a hell of a long time.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Jackleg preacher<\/em>, but no jackleg rabbit.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Next. Next. Yes, Sister Grimm.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yes, I\u2019m sure they\u2019ll cut back on lots of things. Boy, you know they must be a hungry people, an unhappy people, to start all this shit. Over here we\u2019re over in a jungle minding our own goddamn business, and these fuckers writing after\u2013 I\u2019ve been gone now nearly four goddamn months. Those sons of bitches still writing about me. Now I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019ve killed somebody that committed suicide. I mean that is a\u2013 a destitute impoverished people. Impoverished<\/em>. That\u2019s a poverty<\/em>-stricken people that have to write about Jim Jones four months after he\u2019s gone. Why<\/em> in the fuck is he haunting them so? You tell me why. It\u2019s sure<\/em> not because they\u2019re concerned about black<\/em> people, \u2018cause we\u2013 he\u2019s freed<\/em> so many black people, and given them so much justice and homes, opportunities, and life. So they\u2019re not concerned about the poor. We know<\/em> that.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, yeah. There\u2019s some\u2013 There is a trick. There is a trickeration. The trickeration is that they\u2019re goddamn envious of us. Their lives are empty and meaningless, and all those rich sons of bitches that even own the newspapers are actually jealous for the kind of uh, thing we\u2019re given the opportunity to do. They\u2019d like to be out here, but they\u2019re too fucking cowardly<\/em> to do it.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And they\u2019re too\u2013 they\u2019re too empty, and they\u2019re too hung up in alimony and all their other problems and legal difficulties, and buying so much in debt that they\u2019re twenty years\u2013 going to have to be paying for it for the next twenty years in projection. So they\u2013 I\u2013 I really believe that there\u2019s an envy<\/em> at the bottom of this shit.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Calls out.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> They\u2019d like to be as simplistic as us, and they\u2019re pissed<\/em> royal. They thought they were going to whistle<\/em> and get my job, and I\u2019d go\u2013 I\u2019d go all to pieces. And fuck, I just give<\/em> \u2018em the job right back.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Responds.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2019da done a lot more<\/em> if I\u2019da had the opportunity.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2019d give the key to the city that\u2019s been given to me and all the certificates from Mayor [Joseph] Alioto and the president, and I\u2019d said shove it up your royal ass.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> But the la\u2013 the lawyers wouldn\u2019t let me do that. They thought that might cause a little bit of difficulty (chuckles) and it might\u2019ve. Oh shit! I bet they are really<\/em> pissed bone dry, and that\u2019s why they keep after us, \u2018cause they thought I would capitulate<\/em> when they attacked me in a newspaper. They thought I would have such a terrible<\/em> pain over losing the commissioner<\/em>\u2013 uh, whatever I was, I guess I was the chairman<\/em> of the commission. They thought I would go to pieces over losing that job. Shit. I was looking for an excuse to get rid of it.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> They did me a favor<\/em>, if they just stay off our ass. They don\u2019t stay off our ass. I got my body, I can lay it down. I don\u2019t have to give it back to them. No, no. I\u2019m like the Indian, I\u2019d rather have liberty. I\u2019m like even Patrick Henry. He wasn\u2019t\u2013 He learned it from the Indians, I guess. He said, \u201cGive me liberty or give me death.\u201d Jesus Christ, revolutionary suicide is too easy. I don\u2019t have to give my body back [to] those sons of bitches.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Stirs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> No. I\u2019ll give<\/em> it back to them if it would save you, but I\u2019ve been looking through that night after night, no sleep, and I get night after night, I don\u2019t see no way I can give it back to them. (Stumbles over words) How can you expect a capitalist to keep a deal?<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Stirs.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He wouldn\u2019t keep a goddamn deal, no matter what<\/em> I was willing to do. He<\/em> wouldn\u2019t keep a deal. How\u2019d you expect crooks to be honest<\/em>? They can\u2019t be<\/em>. So I got no choice but to keep on keepin\u2019 on, honey, and I\u2019m not afraid of tomorrow, and I\u2019m not afraid of dyin\u2019, not afraid of torture, not afraid of pain, not afraid of anything. And some of you are still fla\u2013 uh, you so\u2013 push away a bug. And I think it\u2019s disgusting. You oughta confess tonight if you gag over a snake. I think you oughta\u2013 I think it\u2019s disgusting. You\u2019da\u2013 You say I\u2013 I\u2013 I love socialism. The piss<\/em> you do, or you\u2019d conquer<\/em> that bullshit.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Little fetishes you got. Somebody the other day, I was emptying some woman\u2019s chambers, and said, (imitates woman voice) \u201cI just can\u2019t stand the smell of shit, Father. I just can\u2019t stand it.\u201d (normal tone) I said, there\u2019s something wrong<\/em> with you, (Pause) \u2018cause you think you\u2019re too important. Shit don\u2019t bother me. It\u2019s just another odor. It\u2019s better than seeing chickens and seeing their blood scattered. I\u2019d rather lay in shit for the rest of eternity than watch one more chicken die.<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t\u2013 I don\u2019t think it\u2019s that bad<\/em>. Shit, just turn your nose the other way. It only comes a certain times of the days anyway, other times you get the most fragrant flowers, smell of fresh winds. If you don\u2019t like the smell, go out there and clean \u2018em.<\/p>\n

Voices in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Piss. Yeah. Yeah. When you walk through\u2013 when you walk through the Fillmore, did you ever take a whiff of that shit?<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Intense) You could never shut your way\u2013 She\u2013 Walk even downtown, business, even the shows<\/em>, you can smell the smell of piss<\/em> under the seat or in the elevator corners. Oh no, no, don\u2019t give me no bullshit. I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m sick of you people telling me how much you are, and you can\u2019t stomach pain, and you can\u2019t take this, and you can\u2019t swallow a pill. You\u2013 All this bullshit, I\u2019m sick of you. You go\u2013 oh, apeshit when you see a needle. You are not a socialist, you are still a fucking cowardly capitalist.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Applause.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Moderates) Peace. Some of these kids, they stand right there, their hands\u2013 This young lad\u2013 was this young lad with that\u2013 uh, burned on his leg, and the papaya, the wonderful, wonderful miracle plant that we have is healing it up. But never even winced while they took off the flesh. Billy, while they sewed his hand up, and the same with Amondo Griffith. Never, never moved. Some of you people just go ape shit over a pain. (imitates a female voice whining) I got a headache. I ain\u2019t shit for three days.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (low angry tone) Goddamn! You make me sick.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> (unintelligible word) anyone complain about the food, too.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (imitates woman voice whining) I\u2019ve got diarrhea. I said\u2013 Some sister say, I got diarrhea. She looked at me so pitiful. I said, how long you had it? (imitates) Four hours.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Hell, I never try to stop mine for three days, \u2018cause I can\u2013 I can eat all the rice<\/em> I want for three days and shit it out the same time. That\u2019s fun.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Scattered applause. Laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I never\u2013 I never cure the shits until it\u2013 uh, the bottom just gets too sore for the pants and starts irritating it. And I don\u2019t want to a boil on my ass, because that\u2019s a little difficult setting and listening to that fucking radio. So I\u2013 I\u2013 I only stop my diarrhea when it gets (unintelligible word) and you worried about your diarrhea. Now all I\u2019ve ever taken for me to stop it \u2013 and they tell me there\u2019s a miracle drug in the banana that\u2019ll do it but uh\u2013 in the stem \u2013 but I just take a little Kaopectate, just five lids of Kaopectate, and my shits are shitless. They stop. But a nice healthy shit<\/em> now and then, and uh, it\u2019s wonderful.<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Did Pop Jackson (unintelligible)?<\/p>\n

Voices in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Pop Jackson said his bowels wasn\u2019t moving, hon, he got the shits, that\u2019s good. Now we\u2019ve had enough reasons why we shouldn\u2019t go back. We\u2019ve had enough reasons why we should be glad to be here. Shift yourself. (Pause) Any questions? I always give you plenty of time to make up for the meeting nights. And there\u2019s only two of them, and you say we don\u2019t need them, and you look the way people conduct themselves, and you\u2019ll know we need them.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And two is a hell of a lot better than what you used to have.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Your ass was on the road between Redwood Valley and San Francisco and Los Angeles all the time.<\/p>\n

Voice in Crowd:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Our children didn\u2019t know where they lived till they sent us back on the b\u2013 They lived on Highway 5.<\/p>\n

Crowd:<\/strong> Stirs, scattered laughter.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Any uh, criticisms or comments or\u2013 Yes, yes, yes. Yes yes. If I look at you, then go piss. (Pause) Yes, dear? Sister [Dorothy \u201cDee Dee\u201d] Macon? A little louder.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Oh, this letter. It\u2019s\u2013 it\u2019s a made-up letter. That\u2019s the frightening thing. I say we\u2019re going into a dark, dark period, or a white, white period. This goddamn letter never existed.<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd:<\/strong> (Too soft)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Of course, the coroner [Thomas Noguchi] wouldn\u2019t have burdened it with me, if he was trying to help us. That\u2019s a very good thinking person. Uh, you know there ain\u2019t no coroner in the world that you could buy off. They love power too much. They love position. That Asiatic probably thought he had uh, the world on a\u2013 in a tea cup.<\/p>\n

Tape Ends<\/strong><\/p>\n

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