{"id":78072,"date":"2018-02-05T16:44:17","date_gmt":"2018-02-06T00:44:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=78072"},"modified":"2020-12-30T11:34:00","modified_gmt":"2020-12-30T19:34:00","slug":"q1015-summary","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=78072","title":{"rendered":"Q1015 Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><em>Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To return to the Tape Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=28703\">click here<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo read the Annotated Tape Transcript, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=78014\">click here<\/a>.<br \/>\nTo read the Tape Transcript, <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=77988\">click here<\/a>. Listen to MP3 (<a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q1015%20Part%201%20(Side%20A).mp3\">Pt. 1<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www-rohan.sdsu.edu\/nas\/streaming\/dept\/scuastaf\/collections\/peoplestemple\/MP3\/Q1015%20Part%201%20(Side%20B).mp3\">Pt. 2<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI Catalogue\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong>Jones Speaking<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI preliminary tape identification note: <\/strong>Labeled in part \u201c7\/21\/73\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date cues on tape:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Tape contents place address later in 1973 (reference to <em>Washington Post<\/em> editorial of August 1973 as \u201ca month ago\u201d)<\/p>\n<p><strong>People named:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>People in attendance at Peoples Temple service<\/em><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left: 125px;\">The \u201cCobb children\u201d<br \/>\nReverend Sister Davis<br \/>\nJulia (<strong>speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nLouise (<strong>speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nLucy, last name unintelligible <strong>(speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nSister Nancy<br \/>\nRetha (<strong>speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nSister Shakeschneider (could be Female 4, speaks)<br \/>\nBrother Sidell (phonetic)<br \/>\nThe \u201cSmith child\u201dMatilda Alvarado <strong>(speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nMary Black<br \/>\nSarah Burton (phonetic) <strong>(speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nEugene Chaikin (by reference)<br \/>\nCorlis Conley <strong>(speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nKathleen Ellis, Temple member who recently died<br \/>\nEver Rejoicing<br \/>\nJames Jenkins <strong>(speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nMarceline Jones <strong>(<\/strong>by reference<strong>)<\/strong><br \/>\nMarilyn Miller <strong>(speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nCatherine Morris, Temple member who recently died<br \/>\nLucille Ponder (phonetic) <strong>(speaks)<\/strong><br \/>\nEdith Roller<br \/>\nLarry Schacht (by reference)<br \/>\nMichelle Touchette<br \/>\nRichard Tropp<br \/>\nLee Ethel Young <strong>(speaks)<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>Public figures\/National and international names:<\/em><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left: 125px;\">Richard Nixon, U.S. President<br \/>\nU.S. Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho)<br \/>\nAdolf Hitler, German FuhrerNorman Mailer, American writer<br \/>\nMarilyn Monroe, American actress<\/div>\n<p><em>Temple adversaries; members of Concerned Relatives:<\/em><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left: 125px;\">John Biddulph, member of Eight Revolutionaries<br \/>\nWhitey Freestone, critic of TempleLester Kinsolving, newspaper writer, Temple antagonist<\/div>\n<p><strong>Bible verses cited:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>(<strong>Editor&#8217;s note<\/strong>: The verses below appear in order of biblical reference, not as they appear in Jim Jones\u2019 address. For a complete scriptural index to the sermons of Jim Jones, click <a href=\"http:\/\/jonestown.sdsu.edu\/?page_id=63627\">here<\/a>.)<\/i><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ol>\u201cAbraham said to Sarah, lie and say that I\u2019m your brother. He was a low grade. He wasn\u2019t very high consciousness. He said, tell this king that I am your brother, so that he will not\u2013 What? Kill my soul. Soul is a body.\u201d (Genesis 12: 11-13)<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\u201cI receive no gifts, because we are admonished by all the proverbs of the great world faiths, not to receive any kind of gift\u2026 I do not want to receive any question about your personal healing, because that would be a respect of persons and respect of persons is sin\u2026 If I allow people get up here now and tell me about their healings, I\u2019ll be guilty of respect of persons, and I <em>thus<\/em> far have not been guilty.\u201d (Deuteronomy 16:19, \u201cThou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou will have life and life <em>more<\/em> abundantly if you\u2019ll give yourself wholly unto God.\u201d (Joshua 14:7-14; 1 Timothy 4:15.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOh no, as for me and my house, <em>I<\/em> will serve God socialism. <em>I<\/em> will serve it.\u201d (Joshua 24:15, \u201c\u2026but as for me and my house, we will serve the\u00a0Lord.\u201d See also, 2 Kings 10:18-28)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Word is not a Bible. It is a <em>living<\/em> thing. And it always has a body. If it didn\u2019t, God would be a respect of persons (Several, including 2 Samuel 14:14, \u201c\u2026neither doth God respect any person\u2026\u201d; 2 Chronicles 19:7, \u201cWherefore now let the fear of the\u00a0Lord\u00a0be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the\u00a0Lord\u00a0our God, nor\u00a0respect\u00a0of\u00a0persons, nor taking of gifts.\u201d See also James 2:1-4.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd if people would follow my teachings, I don\u2019t think there would be as it was when Moses brought them out, said they were like gold and silver, there wasn\u2019t a <em>feeble<\/em> one amongst them. But people don\u2019t follow my teachings, people don\u2019t\u2013 Most people don\u2019t like me, even, because people don\u2019t like authority figure. That\u2019s what it said of\u2013 You remember when Moses said it in Psalms, I think, the hundred and fifth chapter, he said he brought them forth also with silver and gold, and there was not one feeble one amongst them.\u201d (Psalm 105:37, \u201cHe brought them forth also with silver and gold: and there was not one feeble person among their tribes.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf God were to appear to Solomon\u2013 and Solomon said his hair was a black as a raven.\u201d (Song of Solomon 5:11, \u201cHis head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf [God] were to appear to Isaiah, and Isaiah said after the final day, Isaiah 7:20 said, he will shave with a razor. God himself will shave with a razor.\u201d (Isaiah 7:20, \u201cIn the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, namely, by them beyond the river, by the king of Assyria, the head, and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe way is so plain to us, that though a person be a <em>fool<\/em>, he need not err therein.\u201d (Isaiah 35:8, \u201cAnd an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though\u00a0fools, shall not\u00a0err\u00a0therein.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe soul that sinneth, it shall surely die.\u201d (Ezekiel 18:4, \u201cThe soul that sinneth, it shall die.\u201d Also, Ezekiel 18:20)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut if God did not have a body in 1973, and had a body when Nebuchadnezzar saw him, that heathen, slave-owning king \u2013 Nebuchadnezzar owned <em>slaves<\/em>, as you remember, he was <em>evil<\/em>, a Babylonish king \u2013 and yet he saw God in the fiery furnace.\u201d (Daniel 3)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cKing James is not accurate even in the genealogy of Jesus. If you go home and read the first chapter of Matthew and the third chapter of Luke, you\u2019ll find that King James doesn\u2019t even know who Jesus\u2019 grandfather is. One says Jesus\u2019 father Joseph, both agree on that. But the other says that Jesus\u2019 grandfather was Heli, the other says Jacob. The other says his great-grandfather was Matthan, the other says Matthat. Misspelling takes place. One says he has fifteen more ancestors as you trace him back to Abraham, than the other writer does.\u201d (Matthew 1:1-16, compared to Luke 3:23-38)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJesus, after he was baptized, after he came into a higher consciousness of the ineffable union of the dove figuratively settled on his head in the River Jordan.\u201d (Baptism of Jesus, Matthew 3:13-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22)<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[Jesus] went for 40 days into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. Spent 40 days and 40 nights, but the same Bible tells you in another place, that after he was baptized, three days later, he was in Cana of Galilee, 80 miles from the wilderness, turning what? Water into wine.\u201d (Matthew 4:1-11 and Mark 1:12-13, juxtaposed with John 2:1-10)<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[Jesus] said, blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall\u2013 they\u2013 well, no, they <em>will<\/em> see God. They\u2019ll <em>see<\/em> God. Not think they see God. Not feel God. But they will see God.\u201d (Matthew 6:8, \u201cBlessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut do not be anxious to cast your treasures before swine.\u201d (Matthew 7:6, \u201cGive not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere aren\u2019t demons in the sense of the literalism of King James, where seven demons lived in one body.\u201d (Matthew 12:43-45; Luke 11:23-25; also Luke 8:1-2)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s called the hundredfold degree. There\u2019s a Fathership degree called the hundredfold. Some are born thirtyfold, some are sixtyfold, some are one hundredfold. I am manifesting the hundredfold consciousness\u2026 That\u2019s the hundredfold degree. It\u2019s a <em>commitment<\/em>, it\u2019s a <em>life<\/em> and a <em>commitment<\/em>. It\u2019s a <em>development<\/em>. Hundredfold means one hundred percent devoted to God. One hundred percent <em>given<\/em> to God.\u201d (Matthew 13:3-23)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJesus looked at Peter one time and said (unintelligible name, sounds like \u201cCephas\u201d), the rock\u2013 I\u2019m going to build a church on you, and I\u2019m going to give you the power to remit sins or to retain them. Gave him the power to be a living Christ. On another occasion he turned to Satan, and said, get thee behind me, what? Satan.\u201d (Matthew 16:18-23)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou can never learn the spiritual matters, because they\u2019re only revealed to children. You must become as a little child or you will not enter in to these more ascetic realms. (Matthew 18:2-3, \u201cAnd Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe was the fulfillment, that all the law and the prophets is fulfilled in one saying: love thy God with all thy heart, mind, soul, and strength\u2026 You\u2019ve got to give your whole heart, mind, and soul, strength to God principle as you know God to be.\u201d (Mark 12:30, \u201cAnd thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.\u201d See also Matthew 22:37 and Luke 10:27.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[Jesus said] I\u2019ve come in my Father\u2019s name.\u201d (John 5:43, \u201cI am come in my Father\u2019s name\u2026\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[Jesus said] I and the Father are one.\u201d (John 10:30, \u201cI and my Father are one\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen your minds and your attention and your love and devotion is placed on the highest source of God manifesting in your life, <em>then<\/em> I tell you, you <em>will<\/em> get results. You will have resurrection <em>and<\/em> the life.\u201d (John 11:25, \u201cJesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJesus said, when you\u2019ve seen me, you\u2019ve seen the Father.\u201d (John 14:9, \u201c\u2026he that hath\u00a0seen\u00a0me\u00a0hath\u00a0seen the\u00a0Father\u2026\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe said these things shall you do and greater, because I go to the Father\u2026 And Jesus said, it would be greater today than it was in his day. He said, these things shall you do and what? Greater, because I go to the Father. <em>Greater<\/em>. Greater miracles will be done.\u201d (John 14:12, \u201cVerily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf God didn\u2019t appear in the likeness of man in every generation, he would be guilty of discrimination. And he <em>proved<\/em> that he did do so, because when Mary and Martha was coming back from the tomb, after they\u2019d laid Jesus in the tomb, they came back by the roadside, and they were heavy at heart, and a man came up to them and talked to them by the wayside, and they called him the gardener because he had a different shape, a different likeness, different color of hair, different color of eyes, they called him a gardener, but your Bible says that he was Jesus. God. Every time one body\u2019s laid down, God picks up another body.\u201d (John 20:11-18)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn a perfect society, as it w\u2013 should be on the day of Pentecost, where all were equal, you wouldn\u2019t <em>need<\/em> lawyers.\u201d (Acts 2:1, \u201cAnd when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSometimes it\u2019s good if we will allow God to be God.\u201d (Acts 24:14-15)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnytime you identify with the underdog, those that\u2019ve been oppressed, you\u2019re one of them. You can be one. A Jew\u2019s not a Jew outwardly, but one <em>inwardly<\/em>. That\u2019s what the Scripture told you. So you can be identified with the sufferings of others.\u201d (Romans 2, esp. Romans 2:28-29)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re to call on <em>no<\/em> one after the flesh. You\u2019re to know this <em>principle<\/em> bearer. As I said\u00ad know no man after the flesh, not even Jesus.\u201d (Roman 8, esp. Romans 8:1, \u201cThere is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo in order to interpret King James, how can you hear without a preacher, how can he preach lest he be sent? Faith doesn\u2019t come by Bible reading, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. And that\u2019s what I am. The Word\u2026 But you cannot find the gift of God, you\u2013 unless you have a preacher to lead you, to guide you.\u201d (Romans 10:13-17)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s what ancient scriptures says, you must minister to the necessities of the saints.\u201d (Romans 12, specific reference to Romans 12:13)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut the Bible does not save you. It says you are saved by Bible-reading? No. Saved by what? The <em>foolishness<\/em> of preaching.\u201d (1 Corinthians 1:20-21, \u201cWhere is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? <strong><sup>\u00a0<\/sup><\/strong>For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHow would you know whether [the preacher is] sent? Because he has the nine faculties or gifts of the Holy Spirit of Truth, which are gifts of miracles, healings, tongues, interpretation, prophecy, discernment, wisdom, all those things which are uh, operative here if you are open to see it.\u201d (1 Corinthians 12, esp. 1 Corinthians 12:28, \u201cAnd God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPaul said, know no man after the flesh, and particularly one that\u2019s dead.\u201d (2 Corinthians 5:14-17, esp. 2 Corinthians 5:16, \u201cWherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA generous heart touches God. God loves a cheerful heart. But when you\u2019re <em>not<\/em> generous, well, whatever measure you meet, it\u2019s measured back to you.\u201d (2 Corinthians 9:6-15)<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>Crucified<\/em> with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I but Christ that liveth in me.\u201d (Galatians 2:20, \u201cI am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>(Extended discussion of Galatians 5:22-23, the nine gifts of the Spirit)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe church must take care first of the household of the faith.\u201d (Galatians 6:10, \u201cAs we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe are to take care of the things that are at hand, to work out our plan of salvation on earth, in fear and trembling, to build the kingdom of heaven on earth.\u201d (Philippians 2:12-13, \u201cWherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn Scripture, the gifts that came, that were imparted by the laying on of hands, God has to be incarnate in a body to express his gifts. So you remember when the Scripture spoke of receiving gifts by the laying on of hands?\u201d (1 Timothy 4:14, \u201cNeglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u2026when they free themselves of the love of money, which is the root of all evil\u2026\u201d (1 Timothy 6:10, \u201cFor the love of\u00a0money\u00a0is the\u00a0root\u00a0of all\u00a0evil\u2026\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cStudy to show yourself approve, rightly dividing the word of truth.\u201d (2 Timothy 2:15, \u201cStudy to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHebrews 4:12, you go home and read it. I fulfill, as no one you\u2019ve met before, fulfills, 4:12. I discern thoughts, know the intents of the heart, sharper than a two-edged sword, separate soul from Spirit, I\u2019ve resurrected the dead and brought the soul and the spirit back <em>many<\/em> times, I can separate the bone from the marrow \u2013 there\u2019re all kinds of people here that\u2019ve been in body casts, that were suffering from broken bones like she, just this morning, corrected instantly \u2013 so I\u2019m fulfilling the Word.\u201d (Hebrews 4:12, \u201cFor the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDouble-minded man, woman is unstable in all their ways.\u201d (James 1: 1-12, esp. 1:8, \u201cA double minded man is unstable in all his ways.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne of the vials, the seven vials, are gonna be <em>open<\/em>, and we <em>have<\/em> to be ready for it. We know the date, the minute, the hour, the year. And we\u2019ve got another vial we\u2019ve got to prepare for.\u201d (seven vials \u201cfull of the wrath of God\u201d in Revelation 15-21)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd I think Moses had something. He said I\u2019d rather suffer affliction with the <em>children<\/em> of God, than to enjoy <em>all<\/em> the pleasures of being the <em>kingly<\/em> son or to be the son of pharaoh\u2019s daughter, <em>even<\/em> for a season. That\u2019s what Moses said.\u201d (Reference uncertain)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOnly the minds that are <em>fully<\/em> evolved to a sensitive, compassionate, Christ level, to be perfect as the Christ is perfect, in the sense of giving oneself, or as we have seen Christ in the Fathership degree today.\u201d (Reference uncertain)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>(<strong>Editor&#8217;s note: <\/strong>This tape was transcribed by Georgiana Mamlakah. The<\/em> <em>editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This Peoples Temple service from late 1973 includes several testimonies and miracles, but it is more notable for the question-and-answer session that Jim Jones has with his followers. Indeed, he asks that the people who approach the microphone not ask for an individual healing or intervention in a personal problem \u2013 \u201cI would have to then allow every one of the over thousand of the people that are here ask a personal question about their healings\u201d \u2013 and most abide by his wishes.<\/p>\n<p>The miracles that he does perform, especially at the end of the tape, are more protective and pre-emptive than actual healings. One man\u2019s profession of faith, for example, leads Jones to anticipate and extinguish a fire in his house. In addition, the same man will be healed of a condition he wasn\u2019t aware that he was suffering, if he places an anointed cloth on the affected area.<\/p>\n<p>Because there is much interaction between Jones and his congregants, there is less ministerial fervor in his delivery. There is also greater discussion of the Bible, since several people have very intricate and perceptive questions about seeming incongruities in Jones\u2019 message that he does address.<\/p>\n<p>The questions vary widely: Is \u201cdoing your own thing\u201d by definition selfish, or can it be a description of following your higher conscience? Which of the fruits of the spirit relate to being shackled by materialism? Are demons real? A few are blunt and personal, and take Jones aback. One woman says she heard Jones speak to her in the middle of the night, and wants to know, \u201cSo why did you wake me?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps the most detail he provides for the understanding of his followers is how he can be God in a body. Drawing upon the Bible as both a sword and a shield, he points out several Scriptures which indicate that God is present as an incarnate being in every generation \u2013 otherwise, God \u201cwould be guilty of discrimination\u201d \u2013 and more specifically, \u201cEvery time one body\u2019s laid down, God picks up another body.\u201d \u00a0Moreover, if God can appear to a heathen, slave-owning king like Nebuchadnezzar, as it says in the Hebrew Bible, he can appear in a man of principle and character in 1973. His claim of the mantle for himself is sometimes coy, more often direct.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGod <em>always<\/em> is present,\u201d he declares at one point. \u201cHe always has a body, and when people have a pure heart, free of racism, free of the worship of things, free of materialism, free of all those possessive characteristics\u2026\u00a0they will see God. Not think they see God. Not feel God. But they will see God.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>While all of these assertions have foundations in the Bible, he bluntly states that it is full of errors, and cites several passages which are familiar to the Temple membership to support that contention. One woman challenges him on that \u2013 \u201cYou don\u2019t agree with what the Bible says?\u201d \u2013 to which he replies, \u201cI agree with the true Bible, I don\u2019t agree with King James.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Although it is a question-and-answer session, during which he says people can ask anything they want, and to expect an answer, he does note that \u201c<em>all<\/em> religious questions are of no importance. The things you need to concern yourself is my apostolic, egalitarian, equalitarian, socialistic nature. <em>That\u2019s<\/em> what you need to know more about. <em>That\u2019s<\/em> the only thing that\u2019ll take you through.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jones describes some of own abilities \u2013 in addition to the healings and miracles, he has walked on water, and he has caused clouds to block the sun\u2019s rays \u2013 just as he also extols the many tangible assets of the Temple. \u201cThat\u2019s why I say to our brother, you need this <em>church<\/em>, not because Jim Jones is a special person, but because he\u2019s got special things built into this church to take care of his people.\u201d But the only way to receive these gifts, as he reiterates several times, is to recognize that need and become part of the church. That means to follow his teachings, obey his instructions, and be generous with both time and money. There are people who show up once every six weeks at a service and expect to be healed; they will not be. There are people who hoard their cash or give it to less worthy causes; their deaths, when they occur, cannot be considered surprising.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Date of transcription: 6\/21\/79<\/p>\n<p>In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation\u2019s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.<\/p>\n<p>On 6\/14\/79, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B107-24. This tape was found to contain the following:<\/p>\n<p>A Temple service including a question and answer session between JONES and the congregation. Also included are \u201chealings\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Differences with FBI Summary:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The summary is accurate and meets the FBI\u2019s purposes.<strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Tape originally posted\u00a0January 2018.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you. To return to the Tape Index, click here. To read the Annotated Tape Transcript, click here. To read the Tape Transcript, click here. Listen to MP3 (Pt. 1,\u00a0Pt. 2). 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