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Jones:\u00a0<\/strong>\u2013(unintelligible beginning, speaking to someone off mike) (Speaks quickly throughout) Yes, yes, you young who don\u2019t think you need it. Middle years, and especially seniors. Behave yourself, \u2018cause Dad\u2019s still on the main line. In spite of his pain. What is political prisoners? Hmm? Well, what is SWAPO doing in Namibia? They\u2019re supposed to get their independence in\u2013 in December, 14-2, uh, decided by the Security Council of the United Nations. Czechoslovakia and USSR voted against this. Why did they do it<\/em>? Because, they said, UN will get in there, there\u2019s not enough security guaranteed, and they\u2019ll dominate, and the monopoly cap\u2013 capitalists will dominate.<\/p>\n

Why does USA have to have Rhodesia, by the way? They have to have it because the cobalt and the chrome, and their\u2013 their economy will bust<\/em>. Nobody\u2019ll have jobs. White or<\/em> black or Asian or Indian.Nobody<\/em>. Everybody\u2019ll be out of work. It\u2019ll be a total<\/em> economic collapse. What I\u2013 How many corporations are there\u2013 that are US-owned? Four hundred. How many West German? Three hundred. And British? Three hundred. All inter-connected with US monopoly capitalism through the Trinat\u2013 Trilateral Commission. (Quiet tone, then strengthens again) You think they\u2019re going to give them up? (Pause) No, not without a war. And I think that they\u2019re pushing<\/em> black people too far these days. (Pause) And China obviously shows some sentiment for black people, \u2018cause they keep aiding nations that speak out against USA. And they see that before US get their goddamn nuclear bombs in there, neutron bombs radiation won\u2019t spread throughout\u2013 there\u2019s no radiation, you see, with nucl\u2013 with uh\u2013 with the uh, neutron bomb. It\u2019s limited to a very small area. So they want to get it done.<\/p>\n

So when the Doctrine of Three Worlds<\/a>, you need to know. How many know the Doctrine of Three Worlds by now? (Pause) Aw, come on, folk, you all ought to study the Doctrine of Three Worlds. Nah, all these hands, I don\u2019t like to talk and repeat this and take up good people\u2019s time. Uh, I want the teachers to come up (unintelligible word) a plan, and we\u2019ll have\u2013 uh, uh, the counselors, so that when we review these people the next test\u2013 and for\u2013 unfortunately we didn\u2019t have one tonight so we could do it, next test, so I can review their profile and put people into areas so the rest of you don\u2019t have to sit up and listen to this when you don\u2019t need it. You understand what I\u2019m saying? Okay. Now. Uh, the Doctrine of Three Worlds. First, the world has the USSR and USA. China says, the USSR\u2013 I don\u2019t know if they really believe it, but that\u2019s what they say. They\u2019re probably appealing to the USA. USSR\u2013 Uh, maybe they did in 1969, but I doubt right now if they do. USSR and USA, first, they say, USSR because they have more standing army, they have a larger land area, they have richer resources, and they spend more on military. However, they took their figures from the CIA, and it isn\u2019t truly reflective because you don\u2019t need<\/em> money in USSR, because they have free education, free medical science. What\u2019d you hear from the news tonight that was so fantastic? Uh, half<\/em> of the world is getting free medical supplies from the USSR. That\u2019s tremendous development for a socialist country that was wiped out<\/em> as late as 30 years ago. Wiped out<\/em>. All of its industrial heartland, all of its farm heart\u2013 agrarian, all of its agricultural heartland, 22<\/em> million people of its own civilians, dead<\/em>. And they built back, and now giving half of the world free medical aid. What\u2013 Who\u2013 All the college youth getting training. All E\u2013 black Ethiopia getting free<\/em> training, free<\/em> education, free<\/em> recreation in the Soviet Union. Did you hear that news tonight? (Pause) Pick up that news, \u2018cause that\u2019s not in here. That\u2019s very, very heartening, very heartening indeed.<\/p>\n

Well, the First World is USSR, they say. They call it that. But actually half the armed forces of the Soviet Union work for the people, they do nursing work and engineering and things of civilian nature. The second e\u2013 enemy, says the (stumbles over words) says the uh, Chinese is USA. They call them both hegemony. Hegemony, that means wanting power, (unintelligible word) too much control of the world. The Third\u2013 The Second World is the European capitalist nations, and China\u2019s consistent with her doctrine there, she\u2019s playing up to them, trying to get agreements with Britain, more than with USA. France. And she\u2019s worked out several agreements. She wants to woo that world away from USA, and real\u00ad\u2013 and make them realize they\u2019re being used by USA. Canada\u2019s woken up to the fact they\u2019re being used<\/em> by USA, \u2018cause their damned economy\u2019s in such a\u2013 a state, seventy percent of Canada is owned by the USA mun\u2013 multinational corporation, and Canada\u2019s asked for membership in what? The European Common Market, because they don\u2019t trust USA.<\/p>\n

And what\u2019s the Third World? China, (Pause) the leader of the undeveloped nations, they say. (unintelligible word) What\u2019s the whole doctrine\u2019s based on? The doctrine of the inevitability of nuclear war. What\u2019s inevitable mean? Nuclear war will happen<\/em>. Absolutely will happen. Can\u2019t stop it. I believe that\u2019s true. I believe that man just too unevolved, there\u2019s too much nationalism, there\u2019s too many barriers, there\u2019s too many complexities. The Near East, South East Asia, and uh, in spite of what China\u2019s uh, seemingly negotiating today with Vietnam. Six thousand ethnic Chinese caught in between the borders of uh, China and Vietnam. And then Africa. (Stretches out word) All of Africa\u2019s problems. Jesus Christ. And if another breaks out uh, soon<\/em>, there\u2019s going to be the breaking point. But<\/em>. (Pause) USA\u2013 USSR, Soviet Union helps the Third World, and so does China. So she\u2019s not the leader of the Third World.<\/p>\n

Now what is the\u2013 We only have about four more questions to go, I think. What Is SWAPO? What\u2019d I say? Where am I at? (Pause) (Talking off to one side) SWAPO, dear, no, no\u2013<\/p>\n

What is the political prisoners? What is a political prisoner? That means somebody\u2019s put in there because their race, given undue heavy sentences or their political beliefs. Who said there were thousands in the United States? Why, none the less than Andrew Young, former congressman from Georgia who\u2019s been replaced by [President Jimmy] Carter by [Wyche Fowler] a reactionary wi\u2013 white racist in the uh, seat that he held. Now he has a nobody job. Nothing. But he said\u2013 he admitted while in the cocktail set, didn\u2019t know he was going to get printed probably, but he said there are thousands<\/em> of political prisoners in USA. Are there any in the United States? Yes, he said, he was one of them. Can you name any? Yes. Wilmington Ten. Black people. Framed for just protesting against the terrible things the Ku Klux Klan were doing to them, and they were accused of burning down an empty garage<\/em>. The witnesses all admit they lied<\/em>, and they still\u2013 Carter refused to give them review, and so did the Attorney General [Griffin Bell], and they face a combined sentences, I don\u2019t know, it\u2019s into the thousands of years. One of them alone got four hundred and fifty years or 432 years, or something like that. (Incredulous) A sentence of four hundred and thirty-two years. One of them is a minister who gave up the church \u2018cause he saw the hypocri\u2013 hypocrisy of the church, and went out to try to organize people (unintelligible word) civil rights. Not socialist<\/em>, any of them, just black. One of them Indian. One of them\u2019s an Indian. (Pause) And one of them\u2019s white<\/em>, who was working for<\/em> civil rights. (Pause)<\/p>\n

What have students from the Soviet Union, the German Democratic Republic, been planning to do in Africa? Go there, volunteer their services, their training, and have done<\/em> so. Many doctors throughout the whole of Africa give their expertise and<\/em> to volunteer to fight also, if necessary, for the liberation of Africa.<\/p>\n

What major world religious leader died recently? (Short laugh) (under breath) Who gives a damn? (back to mike) Pope Paul VI, who the cardinals are now meeting and supposedly will elect a new cardinal, they think it\u2019ll\u2013 Giovanni some\u2013 some damn fool name [Giovanni Battista Enrico Antonio Maria Montini was Paul VI\u2019s birth name] , and he\u2019s a conservative, and when they see the puff of smoke go up, they will have (calls out) the direct heir of Jesus Christ, sitting in the chair of Peter, the Holy See. Seven hundred million people follow the fool<\/em>, and it\u2019s one of the richest capitalist institutions in the world. Setting in the Vatican in Rome is enough gold and silver, just emblems of religious nature, tofeed<\/em> the hungry of the world. (Moderates) That\u2019s a disease<\/em>. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Why do the\u2013 what do the capitalist\u2013 they only got (stumbles over words) this is it. What\u2013 uh, these\u2013 these\u2013 these five. What do the capitalists mean by dissidents? They mean those who disagree with capitalism<\/em>. Obviously. Those who disagree, they don\u2019t want to go along, those who question. When the USSR uh, offered to trade a leading Soviet dissident (stumbles over words) what they were calling dissident, uh, this\u2013 those one there that disagreed, like uh, Yuri Orlov and uh, uh, [Alexander] Ginzburg and the other, uh, [Natan] Sharansky. (Voice climbs) They were actually criminals who had been proven with outside testimony for the Soviet Union\u2013 uh, other<\/em> than the Sov\u2013 Soviet Union that they had traded government secrets through Tunisia, to the USA. They were criminals<\/em>. (Voice drops) Goddamnit. (Pause} And\u2013 but, were they hypocrites? Yes<\/em>, Carter was a hypocrite. How concerned he was, what the Soviet Union offer to trange him\u2013 cha\u2013\u00a0exchange him for the Wilmington 10? (Sarcastic) No. Two of the Wilmington 10 even. No<\/em>. I\u2013 and\u2013 and then one little old person that had been charged with\u2013 were being pro-Soviet? No. He got\u2013 offered to give \u2018em two for one. So that\u2019s how little USA really cared about \u2018em. They were making political what?\u00a0 Propaganda. For all the damn it meant.<\/p>\n

What recent events (pause) from Zimbabwe should give us encouragement? (Pause) The Patriotic Front military victories, the capture of arms, uh, 650\u2013 they wiped out 650 of the secret police of the\u2013 the most torturous division of the white Rhodesian army. And that\u2019s why USA\u2019s gotta move in<\/em>. They\u2019re losing<\/em>. They\u2019re on the outskirts of Salisbury<\/em>, in the capital, all the time, fighting. They were in<\/em> Salisbury for a while.<\/p>\n

What saved the revolution in Guyana? Hmm? (Pause) The only re\u2013 thing to say it was uh, Burnham, Prime Minister [Forbes] Burnham, our prime minister, the head of the Peoples National Congress, which is what? Our ruling party. Which is the opposition party? The Peoples Progressive (calls out) Party. Dr. Cheddi Jagan, who\u2019s made a number of contradictions, I gave you two of them y\u2013 uh, yesterday. He defended the PDM, which is a capitalist minority if it only represents about a half percent here, and what\u2019d the PDM in England call for? NATO to invade Guyana, because it was going communist under who? Not Jagan. Burnham. And the\u2013 on the front page of the Mirror<\/em> \u2013 they\u2019re hypocrites too, even though they\u2019re pro-Moscow. They were making great issue of how the PDM was making complain [complaint] of mistreatment. And what\u2013\u00a0Guyana answered every charge by charge, and explained them, and they were all false. Said they held people during election times. They did<\/em> hold one member of Parliament of the United Front, because he was tampering with electoral ba\u2013\u00a0process. And so what? So what if they did uh, win the election. The end didn\u2019t justify the means, we are\u2013 we\u2019re not in the dictatorship, they still<\/em> allowing these people to disagree with them. By God, I<\/em> wouldn\u2019t. Hey<\/em>? Not the way they\u2019re allowing them to disagree. I believe in freedom<\/em>, but uh, you can\u2019t let capitalists run loose in a country. (Pause} Why are they letting them do it? Because they don\u2019t have an umbrella from the Soviet Union and\u2013 and China yet. They\u2019re waiting. Let US kill itself off in Africa.<\/p>\n

Why are we safer here in Guyana than any place in the world? Because there\u2019s not anything right now US has<\/em> to have. They don\u2019t need bauxite, they can get it from other places. Unfortunately, Jamaica\u2019s not as safe. They\u2019re not as safe, they took IMF, and they have too many multinational corporations. Guyana nationalized<\/em>. Burnham took over ninety<\/em> percent of the means of production. That means all the property, the big businesses. And uh, no other nation did that. Jamaica didn\u2019t make that move. Burnham took a lot of courage, and took over Bookers [Sugar Company], took over the liquor industries, took over all them\u2013 the sugar industries, took over the bauxite, took over the major farms. That was wise. There\u2019s only ten percent still private property. And he encourages cooperatives, although we\u2019re the most e\u2013 efficient cooperative, by the admission of the government, that there is. (Tsks)<\/p>\n

Where are we at now? (Sighs) What did Jesse Jackson say? Because of the recent handing down the Supreme Court that you can keep\u2013 if you get anybody\u2019s files and you can get Sec\u2013 Social Security files, and know everything about anybody, uh, people are gonna what? (Pause) Speak no evil\u2013 uh, hear no evil, see no evil and speak<\/em> no evil, because they\u2019ll be afraid they\u2019re gonna get arrested. Put in jail, put in jail. And Jesse used to be a sellout. Total. He even allegedly got paid from the FBI for trying to get [Martin Luther] King to resign, to discourage him. And who else was it? Roy Wilkins. And Roy Wilkinssaid what? He<\/em> said, the nation is going fascist. And that means something, because he was an Uncle Tom of Toms.<\/p>\n

What do we mean by UFOs? Unidentified Flying Objects. And what did Dad say about the US\u2019 feelings that UFO\u2019s pose a possible threat to world peace? Uh, they said that they got the superior intelligence and they\u2019ll come here and invade and kill us. Obviously, if they had superior intelligence on one planet, they had\u2013 they went through the same stages of develop from the amoeba up through the ape, didn\u2019t they? To the human? And they had nations and barriers, but they worked through<\/em> that. Any people capable of working through that and all the language barriers and building one world of peace<\/em>, sure as hell ain\u2019t gonna come down here and attack us<\/em>. (Pause) They\u2019re watching us. And where is most of the sightings? USA. If you were a highly-developed intelligent being, who would you be watching? (Pause) USA. They\u2019re watching us like a group of maggots under a microscope. And maybe they would<\/em> wipe out USA, if they get ready to blow up the world. But I don\u2019t believe in counting on visionary thing, because you could get almost uh, too religious. And why\u2013 why is religion an opiate of the people? What is astrology an opiate of the people? It teaches you to think, well, you\u2019ll have a future after this world. And things just happen by fatalism, they\u2019re bound to happen. (Calls out) Don\u2019t accept that kinda crap. Man<\/em> makes his history, right? You<\/em> change your destiny. Right<\/em>?<\/p>\n

Voice:\u00a0<\/strong>Right.<\/p>\n

Jones:\u00a0<\/strong>Religion causes people to go to sleep. That\u2019s why\u2013 Opiate means a drug<\/em>. When you\u2019re on a drug\u2013 you ever had a drug when you just before surgery. Hell, you thought you were\u2013 you felt like a king or queen, didn\u2019t you? Till you gotta wake up. Just like a drunk<\/em>. When you\u2019re a drunk, you think everything\u2019s going swell. Not necessarily. Don\u2019t try drinking. Doesn\u2019t work that way after a while. Right? You feel a lotta pain, lotta unhappiness, and the hangover\u2019s terrible.<\/p>\n

What is neocolonialism? How does it affect many Third World nations? It\u2019s just a new form of capitalist domination through control of multinationals, through the economics. And Africa\u2019s being done that way by US and its lackeys like France and Great Britain.<\/p>\n

How much \u2013 this is the last question, aren\u2019t you glad, I know you are \u2013 how much did US unemployment go up or down last month? So you know the capsulization of the news of last Tuesday, the capsulization of the news of\u2013 that I gave on Saturday and the news that I\u2019m giving tonight, and you\u2019ll pass the test, plus what? This right here. Hey? What was that? Or what the hell you\u2019re supposed to say when anybody comes in who\u2019s ag\u2013 not a member of Jonestown. Got me? Unless I tell you it\u2019s PNC, then you talk PNC. You talk socialist. Otherwise you talk just\u2013 still the same, still be the same thing, only you will say that you are PNC. But the USA, you can\u2019t say it, \u2018cause you\u2019ll get you in tro\u2013 get our people back there in trouble, understand? \u2018Cause we\u2019re American citizens, not s\u2019pos\u2013 not involved in politics. Po\u2013 Supposedly.<\/p>\n

(Calls out) Who is our party? The Peoples National (stretches out word) Congress<\/em>. (Moderates) Who\u2019s our prime minister? Forbes Burnham.\u00a0 One of his courageous acts was, he told [Henry] Kissinger to fly over. When Kissinger\u2013 US government said you\u2019re not supposed to\u2013 you\u2019re not to give any more fuel to Cuban planes on their way to help liberate A\u2013 Africa and Angola, and he said, god damn, if you\u2019ll tell me what we do, we are a proud people, we\u2019d rather die on our feet standing than to be begging on\u2013 taking your orders on our knees. So he said, you go\u2013 you fly on over. You\u2019re not landing. Kissinger said I want\u2013 I\u2019m going to talk to you. I\u2019m going to come from Rio de Janiero, land here. Said, the hell you are, fly on over, and he did. (Pause) So he\u2019s got a lot of bravery, whatever faults there are in this country. I\u2019m glad I\u2019m in\u2013 I\u2019m glad I brought you here. It\u2019s the best thing I ever did. And if you don\u2019t know it\u2013 Well, we\u2019ll get this reduced, we\u2019ll get this study reduced, we\u2019ll get the work time reduced. And I swear we will. We\u2019re gonna get it duc\u2013 reduced even before we get<\/em> some people here, if they all\u2013 all will cooperate with me, (unintelligible word) and follow that uh, forum that Comrade [Tom] Grubbs had. Where\u2019d the hell it go to? So it\u2019s gotta be made out so all supervisors have it, so we can have the proper appraisal of evaluation of people.<\/p>\n

The last one. How did US unemployment go up or down last month? (Tsks) Di\u2013 It went up, but the Labor Department lied to us, by juggling\u2013 juggling statistics. What else do you know about employment in US, especially for non-whites? (Pause) Well, I think I\u2019ve already answered that a million times. (Stumbles over words) The dollar\u2019s dropping, it\u2013 you\u2013 they\u2019re losing their cheap labor, their\u2013 their cheap sources for profit abroad, more and more countries are becoming free, even Zaire, one of their biggest puppets, waking up and charging the world market for their minerals, their copper, their gold and their uh, nu\u2013 uh, uranium and cobalt. What\u2019s that mean? They gotta up the prices in USA. Cost of living goes up. They got automation, they gotta go to automation, \u2018cause they can\u2019t afford the labor costs, so what\u2019s that mean?\u00a0 People are unemployed. Right? Not enough resources to produce the factories anyway, so that means unemployment for white and black, and that\u2019s gonna be trouble, somebody\u2019s gotta go, don\u2019t they. \u2018Cause they\u2019re not gonna let them walk the streets, there not enough liquor to go around to keep \u2018em all<\/em> drunk. Right? \u2018Cause even drunks<\/em> will commit crimes<\/em> to hurt people to get more liquor, right? White folk don\u2019t like that. The rich don\u2019t like that. So they\u2019ll have to eliminate them. That\u2019s why I even\u2013 we call the neutron bomb the nigger<\/em> bomb<\/a>. And other genocidal weapons. And certainly<\/em> concentration camps<\/a>. They\u2019ll have a nice name for it, they\u2019ll probably call it Work Training Centers. They used to have a Job Corps, that was\u2013 uh, they\u2013 that\u2019s what they had in mind with the Job Corps. You remember that? The Job Corps? Run like a goddamn fascist state, because Charles Pressidy, a big reporter who was a friend of mine\u2013 We oughta still try to invite him down here, he\u2019s a man, uh\u2013 He\u2013 he wrote a wonderful article on us. He said they run it like a concentration camp, and they fired him and hounded him. Used to be a socialist. He was a communist<\/em>, but he kept the secret, but he\u2019s still been an open friend of ours. We should write him. See that they do. Stateside radio.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t think there\u2019s anything more to that question. How does US unemployment compare with unemployment in the Soviet Union and in China? There\u2019 s no<\/em> unemployment in the Soviet Union or China.<\/p>\n

Thus uh, ends the end of that. And the agriculture\u2013 uh, no major problems, are there? I will have to pee. Is there any major problems? (Pause) Just got one?<\/p>\n

Voice in crowd: <\/strong>Too soft.<\/p>\n

Jones:\u00a0<\/strong>What\u2019s that one? What\u2019s that one? John Harris. Will John Harris answer that quickly? Quick. I la\u2013 I named that a mo\u2013 a moment ago. Oh, gee, I do have to pee, because my bladder might burst. All right, let\u2019s see. (Pause) Public hospital\u2013<\/p>\n

Jones and unknown male talk over each other.<\/p>\n

Jones:\u00a0<\/strong>See all this is all I got to read\u2013 You see all this pages I\u2019m turning? Typewritten on both sides? That\u2019s what I gotta readtoday<\/em> for the day\u2019s reports from Georgetown. You see what I\u2019m talking about? You oughtta be damn lackey\u2013 uh, lucky you can load logs back and forth. And I was la\u2013 uh, tired of it, and sick as a dog, to\u2019ve had that news about having cancer, and uh, the feeling low, low, low, low, because of you. I didn\u2019t mind for me. I carried those damn logs and took heavy<\/em> loads. But some of you sauntered around till you could find\u2013 Uh, you know, everybody knows when you\u2019re picking up some little ol\u2019\u2013 I\u2013 I understand some of you who have problems, but some of you able-bodied be picking up big\u2013 gr\u2013 big long thing, and act like it\u2019s heavy. And it\u2019s burned out log. You think we\u2019re fools<\/em>? Okay<\/em> now, everybody say Amen.<\/p>\n

Crowd:\u00a0<\/strong>Amen.<\/p>\n

Jones:\u00a0<\/strong>Shift your ass in the grass. (Pause) Before you get into Public Service at the pass. (Pause) (Calls out) That is for every lad and for every lass. (Pause) Okay, answer that, quickly, and get any uh\u2013 give me the mental\u2013 give me the problems<\/em>. I like the\u2013 all problems first<\/em>. \u2018Cause that\u2019s the danger when you\u2019re tired.<\/p>\n

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