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(Editor\u2019s note: <\/strong>This tape was transcribed by Vicki Perry. The\u00a0editors gratefully acknowledge her invaluable assistance.)<\/em><\/p>\n

Jones: <\/strong>(with ministerial fervor) \u2013[Hebrews] 6:1 said, Let us leave<\/em> the principles of the doctrines of Christ baptisms. Laying on of hands, eternal judgement. That means talking about how hot hell is and how many streets there is in heaven and pearly white cities, leaving baptisms, doctrines of eternal judgement and resurrection of the dead. (Calms) You hear what I\u2019m saying? Hebrews 6:1, Let us leave<\/em>. Didn\u2019t say, Let\u2019s stay around and grope around and nose around. It said, Let us leave the principles of the doctrines of baptisms, laying on of hands, eternal judgement and the resurrection of the dead. Everybody talking about how Jesus going to come through the skies or going to be at mother\u2019s grave when she goes floating through the earth. You\u2019re not going to\u2013 you can stand at mother\u2019s\u2013 you can be at mother\u2019s grave till hell<\/em> freezes over, and you\u2019re not going to see mom come out of the graveyard.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. (Voice builds) Because in it\u2013 she didn\u2019t went to the graveyard. Spirit<\/em> returns to God<\/em> who gave it. People (unintelligible word) out, going to look for the dead to come out of the graves. That\u2019s some of the King James\u2019 mistranslation. You\u2019re not going to find anybody\u2013 Listen, I used to have to excavate in graves. I was poor, Indian, poor white, poor black, poor everything. I\u2019m mixed up with everything under the sun.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And I\u2019m poor<\/em>. But that\u2019s one thing, whatever it was, it was poor<\/em>. And so when I was nine years of age, I had to go out and help dig up graveyards. They were telling me how\u2013 whatever\u2019s going to be on resurrection morning, all those folk going to rise? I\u2019ll tell you, they\u2019re going to have to work<\/em> at it, because the gopher had some of them over fifty feet over here and some of them have been drug, they\u2019re\u2013 they\u2019re over here and they all\u2013 the bones over here. I never had such a time in my life. We finally give up. We couldn\u2019t get all those bones together, \u2018cause the bones all mixed up, and the hair, all there was a little bit of hair, and some old rotten fingernails. And now I know you know better in your life, nothing going to come out of that old rotten casket. Stinking gophers down there.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calms slightly) That\u2019s why people say, Oh, I\u2019m looking forward to die. You liar.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Scattered applause and laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You\u2019re not looking forward to die. That\u2019s why I refuse. At least I\u2019m trying to do something about it. Fifty-two times this year, you\u2019ve seen them fall out dead here in our meetings, and 52 times\u2013 I don\u2019t like graveyards so much, that 52 times, I\u2019ve gone up to them and brought \u2018em back. You\u2019ve seen it with your own eyes.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> In a few days, I certainly can safely predict, in a few days, you\u2019re going to read about it all over the nation, and you\u2019ll read about it in a magazine all<\/em> over the nation. News periodical will carry it to millions, twelve million homes, how I raised the dead. So, the woman come\u2013 she<\/em> don\u2019t doubt it. And she have a picture of one of the women that you\u2013 that\u2019s\u2013 that the dead\u2019s been raised, and it\u2019ll go all over the nation. Because I don\u2019t like graveyards. And you ought to be glad I don\u2019t. Because I don\u2019t see nothing in graveyards that look good.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You say, Well, you can\u2019t stop it all. Well, I\u2019ve been doing pretty good this year, so I\u2019m gone keep trying.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2019d like to stop it altogether. And if anybody can, it would be me. So, you stick around. But I\u2019m not going to be satisfied. Let me tell you, somebody can spit up a cancer, if we can see a woman like last night just come right out of her crutches, just running down here. Had been crippled for four years, hopelessly crippled and just dropped them. Another brother left his crutches and we\u2013 went up the aisle, and we saw six<\/em> people healed of blindness in yesterday\u2019s service.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Now, if that<\/em> can happen, why on earth can\u2019t we raise the dead? Why can\u2019t we stop dead? Why can\u2019t we stop the death from taking place? Jesus said, He that liveth and keeps my sayings shall never die.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That\u2019s what he said. Though he were dead, yet shall he live.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2019ll tell you one thing, you\u2019ve got nothing to think about if I said, Plan to die. I heard some s\u2013 madam over here on Crenshaw Street and some of these reverends saying\u2013 said I\u2019ve got a special lawyer, and I never heard such death in these churches. She said, I got\u2013 she got a lawyer on telling how folks said, Now you know you all got to die. It\u2019s appointed unto you wants to die. She said, I got a lawyer on here this morning to tell you how to make out your will. I thought, if that isn\u2019t awful. That\u2013 that\u2019s the most gory thing I ever heard tell, to have a sermon on Sunday morning over the radio, telling folk how to make their will out, getting ready to die. (Cries out) I\u2019m not telling you how to get ready to die<\/em>. I\u2019m telling you how to get ready to live<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You say, What if you\u2019re wrong? Well, 52 times this year I haven\u2019t<\/em> been, and at least when it comes to us, it\u2019ll come as a surprise. And some of you folk been listening to these old jackleg preachers, and you worryin\u2019 about dyin\u2019 every day. You\u2019ve died a thousand times this year already, worrying about it.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Scattered calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Cries out) I don\u2019t expect to die.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Thus, if I don\u2019t expect<\/em> to die, I have fun<\/em>. Who<\/em> can have any fun thinking about dying?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Now you know there\u2019s no fun thinkin\u2019 about dyin\u2019.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>(Scattered replies) No.<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Everybody\u2019s used to about getting ready to die, getting ready to die. Every time we come to church. I got so I wouldn\u2019t go<\/em> to church. Every time I was a child, telling me, get ready to die. They said you\u2019re gone die and meet Jesus, and then as I said, they\u2019re going to come out of the graveyard. I learned that lie when I was nine years old, and I saw all those folk couldn\u2019t get their pelvic bones, couldn\u2019t find their ribs, we just had to\u2013 we just dump\u2013 dump it in the box, in a sack, make the folk thought that there\u2013 that was their remains because there wasn\u2019t no more, af\u2013we couldn\u2019t no more find\u2013 skulls would be carried clear away. And though you\u2019d find something with just a spine, you\u2019d find a few bones, heads\u2019d be taken away by these gophers and other uh, the\u2013 the vermin, the varmints that were down to the ground. They\u2019d be carried away. You couldn\u2019t find\u2013 I wonder how in the world you think that somebody gonna rip out of a graveyard when you can\u2019t find their skull.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Responds<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I know better too, because we\u2019ve seen in our meeting\u2013 in a midweek service we saw someone who had died<\/em>, that was troubled and needed forgiveness<\/em> and was begging for forgiveness. They materialized<\/em> right before our eyes. Didn\u2019t they? We heard them speak<\/em>. How many? Only once. We heard it though. How many in this room heard it? The whole house<\/em> heard it. Because they had done something terrible against me and as a person, and we saw vividly the manifestation that there is no death. She<\/em> wasn\u2019t in no graveyard. As if she was in all the room. We all heard her, simultaneously, at the same time. (Voice rises throughout) Saying, I\u2019m sorry<\/em>. Forgive me. Forgive<\/em> me. My soul<\/em> has no\u2013 has no peace<\/em>. [You] Say, Well, that can\u2019t happen. Oh, yes it did. It happened in the scripture, just as sure as you\u2019re living. The rich man came to Lazarus. He spoke to him. Spoke to him. Don\u2019t tell me it can\u2019t happen. The rich man came to him and said, Go. Save my brother. At least warn my relatives. Warn them. I\u2019ve been a devil. Save my relatives.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calms) You don\u2019t know. You been\u2013 you\u2019ve just been hoodwinked. They got\u2013 (Conversational) I don\u2019t know why people bother to go to church, come to church and listen to some old jackleg telling them that Jesus is coming soon, and they got a Cadillac parked out there, and a Rolls Royce.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And got the finest suits, the clothes ever was. And people won\u2019t even come here and support us when we feed all the children, practically in northern California. Take \u2018em all in. The courts<\/em> of northern California, practically, of the Bay Area send us their babies. One whole county<\/em>. We take care of every one of them without money or without price. We never worry whether that\u2019s\u2013 we\u2019re gonna get anything for it or not. And yet these people come listen to some old jackleg, drive up in a Lincoln, comes\u2013 come promulgating [promenading] down the aisles in some West\u2013 Brooks Brother\u2019s suit<\/em>, and some Madison Avenue clothes and alligator shoes. Come promulgating down with all of his fine riches and tell \u2018em, Jesus is coming soon. He acts like Jesus is coming soon. (Pause)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Gettin\u2019 richer every day. Not\u2013 not\u2013 this\u2013 You know, if Jesus was coming soon, if they thought that was sa\u2013 going to really happen, they wouldn\u2019t be having all that Cadillac. What do you need with a Cadillac? You can\u2019t go flying through heaven with a Cadillac. You know better than that.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> These preachers\u2013 these preachers are\u2013 (Quietens) Shoot. Ah, I said, I know. There\u2019s so few. I met a brother back there, this precious brother up here that would pass the cancer the other day, he\u2019s a real brother after my own heart. Brother [Pop] Jackson, who\u2019s there, near ninety, he would\u2013 had broken leg, because he knows where God is. And just instantaneously I healed him. He didn\u2019t even have to go to have any cast<\/em> put on. But so most\u2013 so most of \u2018em, that\u2019s not the case. They tell you, love some lie, and they\u2019ll tell you to give so they can have a Cadillac. And then they\u2019ll tell you to get ready to die. Now that\u2019s some message. You come to church to hear somebody to tell you to get ready to die. (Calls) I say, let\u2019s get ready to live! Let\u2019s get ready to live! I have come to give you life<\/em> and freedom<\/em> and life<\/em> more abundantly!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calms) Oh yes, oh yes. (Pause) So you think we\u2019re<\/em> the ones to feel sorry for, \u2018cause we said, What if he\u2019s wrong? And people tell us that every time. (Voice rises throughout) And every time somebody dies in here, they carry \u2018em up here. One of them defecated, carrying him clear up to the front of the aisle. The BM was all over him, the urine was all over him, carried him in from the outside. We raised him up from the dead and these fools will still keep saying, Well, what if he\u2019s wrong? (Pause) What if you\u2019re<\/em> wrong?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Fifty-two times this year \u2013 and \u201872\u2019s not over \u2013 we\u2019ve been right<\/em>. Man was dead twenty long minutes. Twenty long minutes he was there last Friday night, worshipping God in San Francisco. Twenty minutes. Dead<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> That was five months ago. Raised from the dead. (Pause) I\u2019ve got nothing to gain by listening to you. You\u2019ve got everything to gain by trying what I\u2019m<\/em> doing, \u2018cause you\u2019ll be happy. You\u2019ll be happy like a lark. Some of you just worrying, you got your death burial insurance, you got your uh, tomb<\/em> insurance, you got your cemetery plot, and you got your tombstone, and you uh\u2013 you listen to these people come in, I tell them, go<\/em> on your way. I don\u2019t need no tombstone.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> One of my old relatives got\u2013 he said he\u2019s going to make some money, selling tombstones. Now I\u2019m gone tell you, he went on, and he got that job on Monday, and on Thursday, he said\u2013 on\u2013 on Tuesday, he said, I\u2013 I\u2013 I just feel death all around me. He says, It\u2019s terrible<\/em> getting in this tombstone business. And on Thursday<\/em>, he had a heart attack and died<\/em>. (tape edit) Meeting their maker, that\u2019s a peace. I\u2019m not going to worry about somebody that\u2019s gone on and made their peace, when I have got somebody alive. But if any of you happen to make the mistake and have an accident and die\u2013<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Delayed response<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2019m<\/em> going to stand by you, I won\u2019t be ashamed of it, but I\u2019m rather glad to say that in all<\/em> these years, I haven\u2019t had a funeral to conduct<\/em>. In our inner circle up there in Redwood Valley, there\u2019s thousands<\/em> up there, and we\u2019ve had no funeral to conduct in years<\/em>, and we\u2019ve had nobody die in the immediate family there since 1959. Now you tell me you want me to start living like you<\/em>? You can go to and stay put. I\u2019m going to live my<\/em> way.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I list all of those people\u2013 my\u2013 my family telling me about death. I thought about death. I imagined death when I was a child, but I quit thinking about it. Now I never worry about it. Though I\u2019m in such a good shape too. And you see if you could outrun me. Last night, one of the brothers\u2013 and I was running down the street and he says, My God. He was sixteen. Said, I can\u2019t keep up with you. And I\u2019m a grandfather. Won\u2019t be long before I\u2019m a great grandfather. That\u2019s what happens about thinking about life. Life. (Pause) If you think about death, that\u2019s what you get. What you see, what you get. What you think, is what you are. So I\u2019m not gone\u2013 I\u2019m not gone do it.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Now try<\/em> my way. Try it. Just try to think of love and life. I just thought when I was going through the aisles, one of the person said to me, Oh, Brother Jones, uh, isn\u2019t your hand tired? Isn\u2019t your arm tired? I said, No, mine isn\u2019t, because I think of all these lovely people. And I want to show them how much I love them. And that\u2019s what I think about. I don\u2019t think about<\/em> my hand being tired. People squeeze your arm, they pull it, they really pull you. One sister nearly pulled my arm out. But, you know, if you keep your mind on the people and think about what people have gone through, what it is to be poor, what it is to have\u2013 to have come up as a poor white or black person in this society and be mistreated. If you think on that, you won\u2019t worry about your arm, and you won\u2019t worry when somebody\u2019s stepping on your toes. I had\u2013 I must have had fifteen people stomp on my toes like it was the floor. But it don\u2019t make any difference, because I was thinking about how beautiful<\/em> you are and how you deserve the best. And I want to tell you, by God in heaven, I\u2019m going to give<\/em>you the best if it\u2019s (Cries out) the last thing I do!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> If I don\u2019t get it done, it won\u2019t be because I haven\u2019t tried. And here a year ago when I came\u2013 I haven\u2019t been here a year. Haven\u2019t been coming to Los Angeles a year, for regular meetings. Here we\u2019ve got a church<\/em>. About sixty of our people are up there\u2013 (pause) We have people up there (pause), sixty<\/em>-some from Los Angeles who are in our senior citizen homes or in valley residences or in our dorms, or in our children\u2019s homes. Think of what\u2019s been done in a year, by not worrying about death or getting ready to meet Jesus. Say, I\u2019m getting ready to meet Jesus. What are you doing to get ready to meet Jesus? You\u2013 you phony, some of you phonies, I\u2013 I\u2013 I\u2019m looking at one or two out there that I see quite clearly. You\u2019re always saying, Well, we ought to\u2013 Somebody, when I went down the aisle, said, Brother Jones, you ought to take more time for prayer<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Responds<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah, well, when you get as much done as I do, you do it your way and I\u2019ll do it mine. Okay?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We\u2019ve seen people of every stripe. Not\u2013 the\u2013 The young\u2013 the young man that sang the lead in\u2013 there\u2019s sho\u2013 \u201cYou Walk a Mile in My Shoes.\u201d He was a drug addict, hopelessly, he\u2019d been in prison. Three-time loser. They said he couldn\u2019t possibly be saved. I said he can. I said, if we go to that court, we stand together, he will be. I said, I didn\u2019t say maybe<\/em>. I said we\u2013 he\u2013 this time, I didn\u2019t even say if we go<\/em>. I said, He\u2019s going<\/em> to be. And he was<\/em>. So three years later, he\u2019s still singing in our group, working in our church, and he once was a criminal, a thug that would hurt anybody he could find or see. Now, if I\u2019da been doing what you say back there, dear lady, and all respect to you, s\u2013 there would be hundreds<\/em> of people. We\u2019ve got a hundred and forty youngsters out of drug traffic. Not drinking, smoking, not using drugs, out being useful citizens. Not one in Redwood Valley, you can check with the sheriff\u2019s department, sheriff of Mendocino County, not one<\/em> of them ever been arrested. That\u2019s something to think about.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Not one. Don\u2019t take my word. Write Sheriff Bartlomy [phonetic] and see for yourself. Reno Bartolomie. He\u2019ll tell you that. Not one of them ever been arrested. Now if I had been taking all the time to do what some of you folks say is the way to\u2013 is the way to get ready to meet Jesus. You know, I never heard Jesus say that.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I heard Jesus say, if somebody\u2019s hungry, feed him.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Light applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Yeah. I heard that. I heard that, but I didn\u2019t hear what you<\/em> say. (Pause) (Chuckles) (Quiet) It\u2019s amazing how we can believe what we want to believe, you know? People just do a good job believing what they want to believe.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Now you want to know what the judgment day is going to ask you for? You want to know what it\u2019s going to ask you for? He\u2019s not going to ask you how many prayed. Matthew 25, verses thirty-four, I think, says that uh, when the king shall\u2013 then\u2013 then the king\u2013 uh, the Christ shall say to them on his right hand, Come,<\/em> ye blessed of my father. Inherit<\/em> the kingdom on earth prepared for you from the founding (tape edit) end of the world. For I was in need of prayer and you prayed.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Calls of protest<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Or I needed you to get baptized and you got baptized. I need you to speak in tongues and you spoke in tongues.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Calls of protest<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Never said a cotton-picking word about that, and you know it.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Full throat) Said, for I\u2013 I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came unto me.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Moderates slightly) And they said, Jesus, when did we ever see you sick, naked, hungry or thirsty? (Full throat) He said, Oh, you didn\u2019t<\/em>. In that you did it unto the least<\/em> of these, in that you did it to the poorest white mother or the poorest black mother, in that you did it to the poorest among men, in that you did it among the least of these, you did it unto me. (Moderates slightly) You know why you do so much praying? It\u2019s easier. It\u2019s easy to get down there, and moan and groan and howl and beg and blow off and spit the mouth and\u2013 (clears throat)<\/p>\n

Congregation: (<\/strong>Responds) (long pause)<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Anybody<\/em> can do that. Said that the hypocrites in the last day, they\u2019ll stand up in the synagogue with a loud voice. They\u2019ll be seeing \u2018em then. Said they\u2019ll pray so that men<\/em> can see them. But he said, Beware. They already have their reward. He said, You want to do something? Go home and do it in your closet.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (full throat) Said, You want to pray? Go and pray to your God in secret, who will reward you openly. (drops into ministerial cadence) But some people got to get to the church, hate<\/em> their neighbor, won\u2019t help anybody poor on the street, wouldn\u2019t ever do anything for civil rights, wouldn\u2019t do anything for peace, wouldn\u2019t do anything for justice, wouldn\u2019t do anything about crime or violence that\u2019s in our society, but you come into church, you say, Hallelujah! Glory to God!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Ballyhoo like an old dying calf. (Voice drops) Mean too, and when you go home, mean to your husband or mean to your wife and beat on your children and come inside. There are some folk there that are schizophrenia. They got two personalities: one in church and one at home.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Split<\/em>. They\u2019re split<\/em> right down the middle. I see them. I\u2013 I\u2013 out on the street I saw someone, as I was walking. They didn\u2019t know me. Because I don\u2019t always wear my glasses. I walk in my old\u2013 I got old\u2013 old overalls, old overalls, you know those old things, corduroy overalls. No, not the corduroy. What was it? What? Well, it doesn\u2019t make any difference. The old farmer-type clothes. Now I\u2013 I\u2019ll be out there walking, and I saw some sister come along and she down there and she just promulgating off the bus. She just got off the bus, coming to, coming down here to the meeting house. (Short laugh) And a little\u2013 a little dog came up, and she said, Get<\/em> away from me. Little bit later I met her down there in one of the seats, and she shook my hand and she just smiled so gracefully, so beautifully. But when she\u2019s out on the streets, a little dog that needs a little love, she kicks it off in the street. You know what? You\u2019da been better off. I\u2019m not a drinker or smoker. I never boozed in my life. But you know what you\u2019da been better off to do this morning? Got you a fifth of Old Granddaddy\u2019s.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs, scattered laughs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Or bought you some Old Crow, and set up on the side of the bed and drank every drop of it, \u2018cause you mighta been nicer when you got through than the way you are right now.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I know some of you folk don\u2019t like what I say, but it\u2019s because some of you know that\u2013 I know one man in our town who\u2013 an old brother, there was sweet<\/em> brother there in Redwood Valley. He was sweet. He used to be drunk. Get drunk every Saturday night. Come down. He\u2019d offer help with the animals. He\u2019s offer help with the children. He was a good man. Then he went to holiness church on one Friday night and got saved. Meanest devil ever since.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Scattered applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> He said, (Ministerial fervor) You proselytize? Across land and sea? You better listen, \u2018cause one of you needed sick there. Proselytize over land and sea, encompassing the whole world, making two, four or more a child of hell. That\u2019s what the church ministry does. That\u2019s what the church age does. It preaches everybody under condemnation and gets them worried about hell and you bring \u2018em some sniveling coward. Preaching to \u2018em, they\u2019re afraid they\u2019re going to burn up in hell, so they run into church, and they\u2019re most nice<\/em> when they were drunks. Then you get them into church and they\u2019re mean as hell.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calms) You know it\u2019s true. Some of the meanest stuff I\u2019ve ever seen done, the meanest<\/em> stuff I\u2019ve ever seen done. The only bad, adverse publicity we\u2019ve ever had was started in San Francisco by a preacher<\/em> and went on to Indianapolis. Done by preachers<\/em>. Done by churches<\/em>. When they come and Sister [Marceline] LeTourneau here, our white-haired lady, called her up. Preacher<\/em> threatened her. Threatened her very existence. (Pause) That\u2019s what you got, these kind of religious folk. They\u2019ll call you up, I\u2019ve had them on the end of a telephone. I didn\u2019t know. I never preach this way, but somebody here needs it.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I never plan any sermon. Often, I just ask what\u2019s on your mind, or I just start on what I know<\/em> is on somebody\u2019s mind, or what needs<\/em> to be on their mind. They called us up and they\u2019d say in the middle of the night, (fake glossolalia)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Speak in tongues to you and say, \u201cWe want you to die. We\u2019re going to kill your dogs. We\u2019re going to kill<\/em> you, you niggers. We don\u2019t like you. We\u2019re going to run you out of town.\u201d (glossolalia) You know I never had the first<\/em> drunk ever call me up. One time they threatened to burn down our church in a place we were at. And the whole bunch of them. These Pentecostals around threatening to do this. They were prejudiced and hate, filled with hate. You know who called us? The downtown tavern. He says, I\u2019ve seen you rescue lives. I\u2019ve seen you take in everybody. And I know what you do for people. And that tavern owner called up and he says one of the\u2013 uh, one of the old brothers that gets drunk and comes in here, his wife belongs to that Pentecostal church down here, and he told me that they\u2019re getting ready to break out all your windows tonight, and he said, I love you people, and I want you to do something about it. And you could hear all the boozing in the background, and they were making high noises and loud noise. He<\/em> called us and be\u2013 because the drunk<\/em>was in there telling what his Pentecostal wife and their church was getting ready to do, and lo and behold they were. We met them out on the road with their rocks.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Never run so fast in their life either.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Light applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You know they get into all this stuff. They create fear. They say, The devil\u2019s over there. And the evil\u2019s over there and witches over there. So I got out by the road, and there\u2019s all these folk all lined up. They were getting\u2019 ready to do their dirty work, and I says, Yay! Here\u2019s one of the witches.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Laughter and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I lie not. There was a\u2013 There were several noticeable signs as the person went running down the road. You could take their path and follow it. You didn\u2019t need a map, because I literally scared it.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And no more trouble. Now we coulda stood there on our knees and prayed, and they\u2019da broke our windows<\/em> out.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> We coulda got in there and sung \u201cAmazing Grace\u201d and they\u2019da done all they wanted<\/em> to, but we got out there and put legs<\/em> on our prayers and run them all the way down that darn street<\/em>, and that took care of it.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Laughs) I mean they were in the fields<\/em>, panting, My God, the devil\u2019s after us. The devil\u2019s after us. (Mimics panting)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Laughter<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I run them for one square mile. I thought I\u2019ll\u2013 I\u2019ll take them one\u2013 whole mile length and I run them clear through pear fields and grape fields. I thought, I\u2013 I\u2019ll give you\u2013 you dirty devils out there. Thinking you do God a service. That\u2019s what church people do. They\u2019ll even kill<\/em> you, thinking they do God a service. It\u2019s not alcoholics you need to worry about. It\u2019s not the street worker or the street walker or the whores or the pimps you need to worry about. In the last days, it said the church<\/em> would be your worst enemy. Those in your own household will be your worst enemy.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> There\u2019s a lady back there that cuts people\u2019s hair and takes care of children. Sister Edith Cordell, one of the most beautiful women I\u2019ve ever known in dedication to others. She\u2019s been a mother, though she never adopted any. Never been married. She\u2019s adopted children. Reared more than most. At a Pentecostal church in\u2013 in\u2013 in Indianapolis, Indiana. Calvary Tabernacle. Cooked up a deal<\/em> that the preacher even laughed<\/em> it about over the phone. There she stands, right there. Laughed<\/em> about it. I was telling them certain things. He said, Oh, I believe that but I\u2013 I\u2019m not going to preach it. Everything we were preaching, he said, I believe, but he said, You haven\u2019t begun to see what we\u2019re going to do. We\u2019re going to really do things that you would not even begin to think<\/em> we\u2019d do. I said, I\u2019m not surprised anything you\u2019ll do. Well, they took her documents<\/em>. They took her deeds<\/em>. They took her papers and stole<\/em> them, that bunch, under the orders of that preacher, stole<\/em> them right out. And if I hadn\u2019t had a gift, she\u2019da been in a mental institution. Because the next day or\u2013 they came and was going to take her in on a subpoena, the white-haired woman that just stood up back there. They were going to take<\/em> her, that Pentecostal church. Said what is it? I\u2019ll name it. Calvary Tabernacle run by that rascal [Nathan] Urshan.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Quietens) You say rascal. Yes, he\u2019s a rascal. Reverend [Archie] Ijames and Reverend [Jac] Beam in here. What we would\u2013 we went to him one time, Brother [Richard] Cordell, we went in. He wanted us to join because I had healing ministry. He wanted me to join that UPC. You peel them Charlie is a uh, uh, good name for it. Or better yet, under privileged children. And he wanted us to join<\/em> it. I said, Uh, brother, I\u2013 I\u2013 I like to watch news and things and documentaries on TV. He said, Well\u2013 I\u2013 I said, uh, You got a law against TV. He said, Oh, yes, we got a law against TV, but, he said, You come in here. And he took us in the bedroom, he took brother, standing right here, and he took another, he said, See, under this sheet? He said, That\u2019s my TV. And he said, When anybody comes in I cover it with a TV\u2013 with a sheet.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I said, Now brother, I don\u2019t work that way. I said, If I believe in looking at something, I\u2019m going to look at it in\u2013 out in the open. I\u2019m not going to hide for anybody. But that man was so evil, he stole all her deeds, and then they sent a detective, and if I hadn\u2019t had a revelation \u2013 I was miles away, but the spirit showed me \u2013 and I called<\/em> her. I said, There\u2019s a detective there to take you. She said, Yes. I said, He\u2019s black, isn\u2019t he? He said\u2013 she said, Yes. I said, Let him talk to me. And he had a\u2013 he\u2013 he had a warrant. They was going to take her for a hearing<\/em> at the general hospital or really what they call it, a \u201cobservation.\u201d And she\u2019da been there six weeks. And in those old general hospital wards for the\u2013 them\u2013 those that are mentally disturbed, if you weren\u2019t disturbed when you go in, you will be when you get out.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Voice rises) And you know what that preacher did? He had all that stuff. Said she was absent-minded, she wasn\u2019t responsible. She\u2019d given all of her deeds away. And I couldn\u2019t get anybody to believe me, so I got a doctor, Louis H. Deere, and you can check it out. I said\u2013 he knew I had a gift. Though he\u2019s a member, he\u2019s a doctor, he didn\u2019t, uh, Ph.D., he didn\u2019t understand it. He said, I\u2019ve seen it work, so I\u2019ll take you at your word. I said, You call them and tell them to deliver that back at the church, or there\u2019s going to be trouble, though we know they\u2019ve got it. And he didn\u2019t tell\u2013 of course tell them a prophet told them that they had it. So he called and let all those Pentecostals\u2013 You hear him on the broadcast all the time, It\u2019s harvest time. He\u2019s the biggest Pentecostal church uh, broadcast, I suppose, in the nation today. Uh, you\u2019ll hear him, Harvestime, Reverend Urshan. And so, he called and said, Give it back. We know you\u2019ve got it. They come marching in to our church and laid down her deeds<\/em>, all her papers, with the police<\/em> because they were so afraid. Laid them right down there. That preacher<\/em> had\u2013 and that\u2013 that\u2013 that bunch uh, that was in the church and some of their own relatives, brought it back.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Voice rises) And they had steal\u2013 they had stolen it, stolen<\/em> it, child, trying to make her look insane. And you know what we had to do to prove her not? She had to go to psychiatrist and pay out good earned money to prove<\/em> that she was not insane. That\u2019s what churches have done. Don\u2019t you talk to me about churches. [You] Say, You don\u2019t like churches. No, I don\u2019t like them very much, \u2018cause they\u2019ve done nothing but just crucify<\/em> one another, and they knock each other down. They\u2013 they rob the people of money. They won\u2019t build anything for the people. They don\u2019t educate their children. They don\u2019t take care of their own people in their golden years. They just take money for preachers\u2019 Cadillacs and Rolls Royce\u2019s. (Cries out) I got no time for them.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You come up Thanksgiving, it\u2019s free. You uh\u2013 Free housing, free food, and you\u2019ll have good, old-fashioned Thanksgiving trimmings. You come up there and see the beautiful facilities we have. And that\u2019s why we get in trouble, \u2018cause they\u2013 if this catches hold by other churches, if it catches hold by other churches, they\u2019re in trouble. Another man tried to do this, in Redwood Valley, an Episcopalian minister. They run him out, accused him of every kind of lie, run him out of the town, and I\u2019m gone tell you, anybody that tries to do this, they\u2019re going to persecute, they\u2019re going to lie on, they\u2019re going to try to kill them, and what\u2019s the scripture say? They\u2019ll think they do God a service. Now you know no prostitute or drunk is going to think they do God a service. So, who it is that\u2019s going to do it? It\u2019s gone be good church members, good old holiness types, good old Pentecostal types that act like they got something, but all they got\u2019s a form of Godliness denying the power thereof.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Well, I didn\u2019t mean to get into it, but I\u2019m sick of your nonsense. Wanting to pray, wanting to shout, and wanting to have a hosanna hoedown, hallelujah hoedown. And you never want to get out and feed the hungry and clothe the naked. And I\u2019m telling you, you don\u2019t know your scripture. You don\u2019t know what God said. (Voice rises) You<\/em> are the one that\u2019s wrong, \u2018cause you\u2019re never going to see Jesus until you get concerned about every hungry, naked, every stranger, everybody in prison, everybody that\u2019s mistreated. If you don\u2019t get what Jesus\u2019 brother said, James, first chapter, the twenty-seventh verse, he said, \u201cPure religion was un\u2013 and undefiled before God, and the Father is to minister<\/em> to the orphans and widows<\/em> in their affliction.\u201d Didn\u2019t say nothing about jumpin\u2019 up and down and prayin\u2019 and frothin\u2019 at the mouth and speakin\u2019 in tongues or gettin\u2019 baptized. It said, minister to the orphans and the widows in their affliction. That\u2019s what it said.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I know some of you don\u2019t like it and some of you walked out, but you can keep on walkin\u2019, because when you get hungry or when you get in trouble or when your son gets in court, right over there, [Tim Stoen] the district attorney who\u2019s a member of our church. Another man [Gene Chaikin] who was healed of cancer when he was dying who was the district\u2013 the defender up in Redding. There\u2019re two<\/em> lawyers in there right now, working free<\/em> for everyone in here that has need. You<\/em> know your cotton-pickin\u2019 churches don\u2019t give you no free lawyers. You<\/em> know they don\u2019t give you no free nurses. You know they don\u2019t give you no homes to stay in that are free<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Ministerial fervor) They work around the clock. All night we\u2019re in their problems. We\u2019re up here\u2013 five o\u2019clock this morning, working with your problems. We were up all night<\/em>. Most of us that were in the staff. What are you talking about? You get mad at me \u2018cause I tell you how you\u2019ve been robbed? You ought to be glad I\u2019m telling you, you\u2019ve been robbed. You\u2019ve been took<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calms) But then they\u2013 they don\u2019t even believe what they preach. Tell you getting ready to meet Jesus, Jesus is coming soon, and then they take up more money for a new Cadillac every year. Because as I said, if they believed Jesus was coming soon, they wouldn\u2019t have to have that fine clothes and the fine jewels. I don\u2019t even own a watch, and I don\u2019t believe he\u2019s coming soon, I believe he is here<\/em> and he\u2019s not going to go anyplace else. (Full throat) I believe Christ is in you, the hope of glory. I believe we\u2019re going to have to make a heaven out of this earth. We\u2019re not going to fly anywhere. We\u2019re going to make a heaven out of here. The kingdoms of this world are going to become the kingdoms of our God and his Christ. We\u2019re going to have heaven right down here amongst the people.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Clams) But I don\u2019t even own a watch. I\u2019m borrowing somebody\u2019s here today, \u2018cause I don\u2019t like to have watches when some people don\u2019t have food. I\u2019m<\/em> not objecting to you having one. I\u2019m not objecting to you having a good car. I\u2019m just telling you what I got to do myself. (Pause) (sighs) Well, I said enough to cause you to do a little thinking.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Stirs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Let them practice what they preach. If you\u2019ve got anybody\u2013 I\u2019ll tell you. You got anybody that can outlive me, anybody that\u2019s adopted more children, anybody that\u2019ll fight in the courts as I have every time. Last time I was here, you know, we had the people, 140 people got together and went in to free this brother that was on heroin to give him another chance, and he\u2019s been up there working in our church, helping others ever since. We never let you go to face anything alone, we stand by you. And I get tired of some of you folk, like that sister saying to me that I need to pray more. What you need to do, honey, is to get off your rear end and get to work.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calls out) I don\u2019t mind for some dear one that\u2019s doing more than me. Now I haven\u2019t found that person yet, but if they were, I\u2019d be glad<\/em> for you to give me some advice. But somebody back there, she had all the fancy diamonds on, telling me I\u2019m praying for you to do more, and pray more and get more of Jesus. What do I\u2013 Uh, you tell me, that\u2019s just like some\u2013 (Voice drops) Oh, well.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You won\u2019t pay any attention anyway. Couldn\u2019t change you. Won\u2019t change you till you get in trouble. One of your loved ones get in trouble. Now, I bet you, you don\u2019t pray. I\u2019ll bet you, the first thing you do when one of your children gets in trouble, which is going to happen to you because you\u2019re so self-centered. When that teenage boy gets in trouble, I\u2019m \u2013 you know who I\u2019m talking to back there \u2013 when that teenage boy gets in trouble, I\u2019m telling you, you\u2019re not going to pray, you\u2019re going to lift up that phone, and you\u2019re not going to call Jesus Christ, you\u2019re going to call Jim Jones<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> And you know what? I\u2019d come and help him because he needs help. Anybody live with you needs a lot<\/em> of help.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Voice rises) Don\u2019t<\/em> mess with me. Give me advice. I can take it in a lot of areas. Tell me how we can better serve people, I\u2019ll gladly. But don\u2019t come up with your pious nonsense and tell me when I work night and day and I just healed somebody with cancer and yesterday six people of blindness and a woman left her crutches and came running down the aisle, free of arthritis. A child stands up, free of sickle cell anemia, don\u2019t<\/em> you get up in my face and tell me that I need to pray more, when I\u2019m working night and day to haul\u2013 help the people. You just shut your mouth and do more yourself. Get your mouth shut and do more yourself.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Moderates) That\u2019s the way I feel about it. Hands\u2013 (Pause) Uh, a brother came up, I\u2019m sorry I forgot to tell\u2013 I don\u2019t know what happened in the offering, but he said it was the worst<\/em> offering we\u2019ve had. The\u2013 the guard that came up, uh, I never handle the money. He said the offering was atrocious<\/em>. Folk\u2013<\/p>\n

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Jones:<\/strong> (Ministerial fervor) \u2013only see him once a month or once every two months, and we\u2019ll give him all of our money and then you ought to go back and see how he lives in New York. Been all these years he been coming, I suppose, 10 years in and out of Los Angeles, and there\u2019s no home for the aged. There\u2019s not one children\u2019s home. There\u2019s not one person educated. Nothing but fine clothes. He\u2019s got all that tinsel, fairy, queen stuff all (unintelligible\u00a0 word) around his head.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Scattered calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Sets on a gold throne. Sets on velvet. Got a crown in his last magazine somebody brought me. Had a crown<\/em> on. What kind of fools are we? I tell you, we don\u2019t need the white man to put us down. We\u2013 we got so many dummies in our own ranks. We don\u2019t need anybody put us down. We got our own<\/em> selves to deal with.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calls out) I said, You know it\u2019s the truth anyhow. We\u2019re the one that\u2013<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I did\u2013 I just turned that radio on in there while I was counseling this morning, listening, and listening<\/em> to the foolishness that comes off here. Tellin\u2019 about this and tellin\u2019 about that and tellin\u2019 about\u2013 she said some sister said, \u201cI sense out there in the radio land, there\u2019s two white hands, making me out a fifty dollar check.\u201d Silly old ro\u2013 woman. She oughta said I saw two white hands and one black hand. She never saw anything other than\u2013 (sighs)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Responds<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I\u2013 I stopped that out of respect.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Responds<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I<\/em> know what you\u2019re sayin\u2019. Now you say, Knocking. Knocking. That\u2019s what you\u2019re going to rationalize. He is knocking other people. Oh, yes, and you bet your life I am. If I see some snake in your camp, you think I\u2019m not going to knock a rattlesnake?<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Scattered calls<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> You think I\u2019m going to let a rattlesnake just get around and crawl around? (Calms) Well, I can handle a rattlesnake with\u2013 I can handle rattlesnakes better than I can some of these people<\/em> but\u2013 \u2018Cause the other day one of my members stayed home from church that\u2013<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Murmurs<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> Been having some trouble from\u2013 they\u2013 they weren\u2019t working. The brother wasn\u2019t working like he ought to. And you know what? A rattlesnake crawled right in and come up and sat right in the middle of the floor.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Responds<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> I said, Well, get on the ball. Get in here. I said, I\u2019ll order the rattlesnake out, and I sent the word and the rattlesnake went crawling right back out where it came from. (Quietens) But\u2013 I can handle rattlesnakes better\u2013 but tell me child, do you<\/em> think, do you really<\/em> think, do you really think that it\u2019s possible that we can let this kind of stuff go on and not talk about it? Somebody<\/em> had better deal with it. Somebody better deal with it. If I come ripping up here\u2013 And then some of you don\u2019t seem to understand it yet. (speaking a distance away from microphone) This is the youth row. This is me. I\u2019m here. (unintelligible sentence)<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Back to microphone) And these pants cost one dollar and ninety-eight cents six<\/em> years ago on Market Street in San Francisco. A dollar ninety-eight. And these shoes, it\u2019s got no heel. And\u2013 And the spirit\u2019s been good to me, because both heels fell off in the same way.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Voice climbs throughout) I\u2019m not bragging about that. I\u2019m just saying that I\u2019m sick<\/em> and tired of us listening to people that can\u2019t do a thing for you, can\u2019t give you anything, can\u2019t give you food when you\u2019re hungry. Don\u2019t do\u2013 take care of your children, don\u2019t take care of your older people, don\u2019t leave anything. Just come in and take all the money out of Los Angeles. Don\u2019t put anything in it, and then you go drifting right on back in there and eat their vomit, you ought to be ashamed<\/em> of yourself, that\u2019s what you ought to be!<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Moderates) Now you folk want me to quit it out there. There\u2019s a whole lot of folk in this section I\u2019m talking to, and you won\u2019t clap your hands. You know a way to get me to quit? Start clapping your hands like you\u2019re listenin\u2019, because I\u2019m going to keep preachin\u2019 until your teeth<\/em> falls out if you don\u2019t start listenin\u2019.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Full throat) I\u2019m sick of sold out folk. (Calms, then builds throughout) I come out and said, they\u2019re\u2013 how to (stumbles over words) supported congressmen and people that were all against the movement for freedom for blacks. Freedom and liberation, and he goes on and says the best man in the country is Colonel [Harland] Sanders, fried chicken, said everybody ought to be like Colonel Sanders, and you\u2013 We dummies, some of us adopting children, some of us never get any sleep, some of us never get hardly enough time to talk to our babies. I have to sit them down sometimes in the\u2013 the last minute of the day, but I always manage to do it, some way. Just a little bit because so many needs, and you could make it easier. I\u2019m talking about some of you house<\/em> niggers sitting in here right now. That\u2019s who I\u2019m talking to. That\u2019s who I\u2019m talking to.<\/a><\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calms) Said the idea of you calling me one, I\u2019ll tell you, takes one to know one. I\u2019m\u2013 but I\u2019ll tell you one thing, I\u2019m\u2013 I\u2019m not a house<\/em> nigger. I\u2019m a field<\/em> nigger and I don\u2019t like house<\/em> niggers.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause and cheers<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Voice builds throughout) [Unintelligible] but not [unintelligible word]. (Pause) It\u2019s not right when some of us adopted eight children, rearing thirteen. Taking in babies, two hundred of them that were starving until I fed them. It\u2019s not right with all the little animals we take in. Every time we come down here, somebody sends us a little starving animal or some child hasn\u2019t been properly taken care of. I said, You dirty rotten devils. It\u2019s not right when you give money to these people, and you only put five hundred dollars in the offering, you won\u2019t help people that\u2019ve got all these senior citizen homes, all these college programs. It\u2019s not right<\/em> when you do this, and somebody better tell you, \u2018cause sure as the dickens, you\u2019re going to meet an angry God.<\/p>\n

Congregation: <\/strong>Applause<\/p>\n

Jones:<\/strong> (Calms) It\u2019s terrible. Well, I\u2019m going to\u2013 before I go on to the healing service, I\u2019m gonna try. I hate offerings with a passion. But we need a PA so that people can<\/em> get some of this. Not particularly today. I just been pouring out my soul. Yesterday\u2019s message was vital. If you\u2019da got that, you\u2019da been free<\/em>. You\u2019da been free<\/em>. You\u2019da known the truth, and it would have set you free. Today there\u2019s been kind of parable generalities. Just extemporaneous, speaking from the heart. I\u2019m asking today, who gonna help us? Folk, we need help<\/em>. We need help.<\/p>\n

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