Q233 Transcript

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Jones: Thank you. Everybody do what they can at this time. Do what you know to do, and do it reverently. (Tape edit) Three times, it gives three separate praises here, but they’re written out. It’ll always be in the permanent Library of Congress, the Congressional Record remarks [page] E3559. There’s never a church in history that had that, and the only way it came was by us working together showing that we were loyally united, showing that we support right causes, showing that when we move, we move as one man.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Mike Prokes: That’s right. You– you can’t buy publicity like that for hundreds of thousands of dollars, you can’t buy it.

Jones: This goes– this goes to every library in the United States, every library across the world, to every radio station, to every newspaper throughout the entire United States. Here we are in the House of Representatives, “Peoples Temple Christian Church supports First Amendment freedom,” and then it goes on down telling all the good works that we do. Tells what the San Francisco Chronicle says, that we’re highly regard– highly regarded for our social works, and it goes on to explain everything that we do. I think you should be overwhelmed by this, and then if the entire denomination of the First Chris– of the Christian Church of 1.8 million has made a resolution praising us throughout the entire United States. So in spite of little dogs of capitalist lackeys, weak imperialistic lackeys like the [San Francisco] Examiner no– of which no good respecting member would take an Examiner paper. How many do not buy the Examiner paper and will not read it? Don’t read it under any circumstances, ‘cause they try to destroy us.  How many do? (Pause) Only God could’ve won that battle. So don’t ever pick up an Examiner. Don’t find yourself buying it. Don’t support them, because last week we heard from one of them in their uh, KCBS, one of our members listened and others reported it, that the Examiner is losing circulation rapidly. They had to fire their manager because they’re having to cut down in personnel, and they attacked us only a few months ago, and the man that attacked us [columnist Lester Kinsolving] has been dismissed. And such is the case, every time someone touches the modern ark of the covenant– they touched us, and the very week they touched us, a fire broke out and burned up thousands, hundreds of thousands of their newspapers. (voice rises) That’s what you get when you mess with God.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: Take this to Sister Tennyson for San– Sacramento. Some people want to desert our ship. (aside) There’s a copy for her and others’ll get copies. She’s setting on that, hold her hand up. (Back to congregation) Others want to desert us, you know. They wanted to fall aside. They thought we were going to sink. And now we are in the record. The permanent library of the Senate and Congress. We are in the record of the United States House of Representatives, and we were praised openly, the first church in history to be praised openly on the floor of the United States House of Representatives in Washington.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: You that stayed with us, you were repaid, you were repaid for your loyalty. You that stood with your Father, you have been the good children. Now some of the disloyal will want to come home (pause) (voice lowers) but go tell it on the mountain, all these lackeys that’ve lied on us. Their– their names are not in Congress. Not that we care that our name’s in Congress. Just goes to show you, that the truth will set people free. (Long pause) Now each one take an envelope. Be quickly, because the (unintelligible word, could be “spirit”) (pause) (unintelligible word) from the Congress and a lot of people that (unintelligible phrase) going to be worth a lot to us one day. When people attack us, you can always say, well, if they attack us, at least the Congress praised us, the Speaker of the House gave time for us to be praised in fine print. Whole page of it, whole page of praise, several columns, Peoples Temple this last week. No matter what they say in the future, they’re gonna have a hard time getting around what’s already in the permanent record, which will always be. As long as there’s a Congress, this’ll be in the permanent records of Congress. Hmm. They don’t know what they’re doing to themselves.

(Organ plays softly, other background noise)

Jones: Gonna be some mightily embarrassed people one day. (moves mike) Said, you praised him, and now he’s tearing up the house, and you praised him. (pause) Sometimes I think fools running this land. I know– I know slave– slaveholders run it. I know beasts run it. I know demons run it. But what’s more enlightening and encouraging, I think there are some fools that run it.

Congregation: (Light applause)

Jones: Well, when they put Peoples Temple Christian Church and what it stands for in the Congress and let the Congressman [George Brown, who included the Extension of Remarks in the Congressional Record] stand up in the House of the Congress and United State House of Representatives and praise us– When they let us stand right up and praise us– when we’re recommending that the class system be done away with–

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: They ought to recategory them. They ought to recategory them as just being beasts. They’re fools. It– But if they want to be fools, we’re glad, we’re glad to keep a record of their foolishness.

Congregation: (Light applause)

Jones: Actually we are indeed uh, deserving to be in the House of Congress, because we’re the most patriotic people on earth. We support the Bill of Rights, we believe that uh, we will fight unless they give us life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the acquisition of happiness. We are going to have a government of the people, for the people, by the people. We don’t think we have one, but we will have or we will die in the process of bringing it. So we are loyal to the Constitution. We are loyal to the Declaration of Independence. The only patriots in the land, so we deserve to be there. And as I look around at these so-called would-be revolutionaries, I’m glad that we are first loyal to this house, that we want to build our own kind of revolutionary democracy, because we believe in each other and we believe in our Father. We know that he’s honest, that we know that he has integrity of the highest order. But I notice some of these revolutionaries, they never come around. Today I got two or three phone calls. I knew what they’d heard. That we are in Congress record. Got a call from one of the Baptist ministers. Wanted me to return his call, the First Baptist. And I thought, oh, I know what he’s read. He’s read that we are in the House of Congress, that Peoples Temple’s been praised, because he never comes around, and even some of these would-be communists and so-called revolutionaries, they’re afraid to admit (unintelligible word) with us. The people in this town that have claimed to be for the revolution of socialism for years, but they’re afraid to be associated with us until we get praise or we’re in the House of Congress, and then they call around and say, “Oh Jim, I’ve just been thinking about you! I’ve had you on my mind.” What they mean is that they heard on international wire, CBS religious reports that Peoples Temple was praised, which went all through the nation. So they heard that. I know what’s on their minds. So I trust no revolutionaries outside of they– us. They’re all a bunch of lackeys or cowards, they won’t stand up– we’re the only group that has been courageous enough to stand up and call the word that we believe with all of our hearts, that we love with all of our souls. Even the good doctor over here that claims to be one,  he always whispers it in secret – the one that has the newspaper [Carlton Goodlett] – whispers it in secrecy, but we claim openly that we are apostolic socialists. We let the world know it. We’re the only ones that’re not afraid. We don’t hide our light under a bushel.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: We let our light so shine that men might see our good works. We’re not afraid to call a spade a spade, to tell what we believe, and what we’re willing to live for and die for. But all these so-called communists and socialists, I wouldn’t go across the street to make a revolution with them, because they haven’t got the spine of a jellyfish.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: They want to stay on the good side of everybody. We haven’t tried to get on the good side on anybody, and yet we appear in the Congress. We didn’t ask or solicit this, we didn’t ask anybody to do it. I just had a revelation of something that should be said to this honorable Congressman, and I knew when– They did just exactly what I said, he would do just exactly what he did. But I didn’t solicit him to do this. Not a word was mentioned. My mind and spirit just got in him and he did it and he doesn’t even realize why he did it, but there it is.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: But I did not get it by compromise– I certainly would not trust these running dogs and lackeys for so-called revolutionary movements or international movements. We are not interested in any kind of revolution outside of Peoples Temple both– either domestic or foreign. I don’t trust any of them. We’re going to stand for ourselves and build a society of the just, we’re going to take care of our own, we’re going to maintain the household of the faith first, we’re going to minister to our children and our orphans and widows in their affliction. We’re always going to take care of our people through the great– from the cradle to the great graduation, we’re going to maintain every need. We’re going to be responsible fathers. We’re going to integrate, unify, harmonize, and lift our people into the highest level of prosperity, and we’ll look after ourselves first. First we’re going to look after ourselves, first take care of the household of the faith.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: We’ve tried very hard to work with other groups. We’ve tried very desperately, and they didn’t want to come around when they listened to this– this red-baiting and this persecution, this hate-mongering that was done by Reverend Kinsolving, until I removed him clear out of this town, run him clear out of this town. He’s been here for years, but he’s gone now, and the paper that carried his scurrilous articles is now begging for more circulation, because they are about to go out of business, they said last week on KCBS, had to hi– fire their manager. Just a few months after they attacked me, they’re about to go out of business. Now that uh, now that we have been praised in the Halls of Congress, now that they’ve stood up– the Speaker of the House received praise this last week of Peoples Temple on the halls of Congress in Washington, and we went down into the Senate and Congressional library and will be a permanent part of America’s history. This is a permanent part of America’s history. Now everybody is calling me up today, calling me up yesterday, wanting to renew acquaintances of old fond friendship. Oh, I see through those devils, oh, I see through those devils so well. (pause) First Baptist Church wouldn’t have spit to save me, they wouldn’t have lifted a finger to save me, until they found out through (unintelligible word)– the CBS network that we were praised all over the nation. They wouldn’t have lifted a little finger to praise me, and now– or to even save me or to save my babies or your children. They wouldn’t have done a thing. Only to push you down, but now that we’ve gotten a little bit of celebration, a little bit of praise, a little bit of the just commendation that’s long overdue us, now that we are seen that though– we’re climbing up even though our persecutors thought they would destroy us, that we’ve got on top of our persecutors, and our persecutors are going down, now they want to say, we’d like to get to know you. The good reverend from First Baptist said, I would just love to know you. I’ve heard so many good things about you, and I said, well, good reverend, when did you start hearing them?

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: He said we’re going to have a cocktail and I said, a what? He said, well, I– you know, there’re some people that you have to– you have to meet people on all their level. I said yes. You meet the city crooks on one level, and you meet the gangsters on another level, and you meet the drunk on another level, just meet them on a– He really didn’t– he got turned away from me completely because he caught me at a very bad day, a very bad– Poor time to reach God, ‘cause God was in a state of wrath, and when he got me on the telephone I guess he thought he had a tiger by the tail, because I didn’t fall for all of his jive. I said, no, I don’t cocktail. I said, I don’t go anywhere my people– I said, now if you want to invite all of our people to tea, or if you want to drop them all in for a hot milk, I said, we’ll all come. I said, I go no place my people can’t go. Well, I don’t have enough accommodation, he said, there’ll be judges there, and there’ll be doctors there. I said, I don’t care. I don’t care what you have there. As long as my people can’t go, I’m sorry. I won’t be able to go either.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: And that’s the way it is, child. If you want one of us for good things, you better take all of us. And if you want to do something bad to us, you damn well better come for all of us–

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: –‘cause you won’t get by just taking one of us, because here we sit and there we stand. We are one. United we stand, and divided we ain’t gonna fall. United we’re going to stand. (Pause)

(Tape edit)

Jones: (Voice builds throughout) You want friendship, you better come over here. You want somebody to take you in when you’re lonely, come over here. We’ve got the most beautiful sanatorium. The state of California just picked out our sanatorium as the best in the entire northern California redwood region. The best out of hundreds. If you want the best facilities, if you want the best greens, if you want the best pears, if you want the best strawberries, if you want the most luscious grapes, if you want to eat when others are not going to be able to eat, if you want refuge when others will not have refuge, if you want sanctuary and a way through Egypt, Babylon, when others will not know the escape route to the river of Jordan, when you want safety and you want to be taken care of, you better come on over here, because nobody’ll take care of you out there. It’s just a jungle of pariahs out there. It’s nothing but a jungle of pariahs and they’re just wanting to leech off of you and drain you, but if you want safety, if you want strength, if you want refuge in the time of storm, if you want to be saved when nobody else can be saved, come on over to Father’s house, and Father will take you in.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: (Moderates) I know some don’t understand it, but you see, we know what we’re talking about. We know what we’re talking about. Great God almighty, people living in nineties and a hundreds of years, and all these people that have passed, hundreds of them, and been resurrected, (unintelligible word) their neighbors in the funeral parlors and resurrected and brought out. Sister Morgan was in the morgue, brought out. Sister Ferguson’s daughter in the morgue, brought out. Why, those are just little things that we kinda throw in, those are just the extras. We don’t have to have those, but those are the extras you get. [You] Say, I don’t like your religion. You’ve got a funny religion. You talk different. You don’t just do things like others do. Well, the other folks doing their thing, did they get you healed of cancer?

Congregation: No.

Jones: Do they go in the courts and set you free?

Congregation: No.

Jones: Every one of my sons and daughters have been pre– taken out in the last few weeks that have been taken falsely and they’ve been brought away, they’ve been freed, they’ve been released. Why, if you can’t get your religion to do that for you, why don’t you change your religion, and begin to talk the right kind of things.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: ‘Cause this is the atmosphere of God’s presence. We don’t have to talk about the creator, we have a creator. We don’t have a creator that claimed to make a world that– divided between blacks and whites. This God does not claim to make the world where two out of three babies have gone to bed hungry. (In full throat) But this God is making a new world where the knowledge of it’s going to cover the earth as the waters cover the sea, and all are going to have freedom, and all are going to have justice, and all are going to come into the acceptable day of God. All are going to know joy, peace, prosperity, happiness, the abundance of every good desire. (Voice moderates) This is the God that you want? You don’t want anything else but the atmosphere of a living God’s presence. Hmm. When you become conscious of this God’s presence, the very consciousness of it will release every source of your difficulty. It’ll be a consolation for every problem. (Voice rises) It is the same thing that you’ve been talking about and never knew, the thing you’ve been theorizing but never had. This is peace of mind. We do create jobs and quiet resting places. We do create help when you’re in trouble. This is the God that answers all prayer. This is the God that meets every condition.

Congregation: (Light applause)

Jones: (Voice moderates) We don’t have to talk about one that is to come. We have one that’s anointing our head now. He’s anointing our head with the oil of salvation and freedom and liberation. And our cups are now running over. Surely goodness and mercy is following us all the days of our life. (In full throat) While we are dwelling in the house of good God almighty, we are dwelling in the house of a good God almighty, (voice quietens) blessed, blessed, blessed. (Pause) We’re not looking for it, we’ve found it. Oh, we’ve found it, and we are glad. You don’t like our religion, go back on over there. Those old jacklegs, they’ll stand and take your money, they got Cadillacs out there. I don’t have anything, but I’ve got Greyhound busses. I don’t have new shoes or a new suit, but I’ve got clothes and food and quiet resting places for our people, beautiful senior citizen homes, beautiful children homes, beautiful dormitories, which every one of our youngsters are getting education. Don’t worry about it– And our enemies, our enemies– The man that came running down the aisle was gonna shoot me. What did you do? You saw him this week, didn’t some of you? Out picking little old pieces of paper up, little pieces of paper up and putting ‘em in a bag. That’s how screwy his mind has become, because I told you I’d run him clear out of his mind for what he did. (Pause, quiet) You cannot hate God and get by with it. You cannot fight this work and get by with it. You may cause us some temporary persecution, prosecution, and tribulations, but we are going to have the dominion. If one of us falls, 10,000 will rise in our place.

Congregation: (Light applause)

Jones: So don’t let some old jackleg telling you Jesus is coming soon, looking with his diamond rings and his golden tie clasp and his beautiful emerald cuff links. I can’t even hardly say those words, ‘cause I wouldn’t buy any such thing. Don’t own any of those things. Don’t let some jackleg preacher that’s got a new Cadillac every year and a fine home out in the suburbia tell you Jesus is coming soon. (Voice rises slowly) Now if he thought Jesus was coming soon, he wouldn’t have all that junk, ‘cause when you meet Jesus, you’re supposed to have nothing but love in your heart, you’re supposed to have sold all you had and given it to the poor. You’re supposed to share it and share it alike. He’s robbing you blind. He talking to you about joy that’s going to come, talking to you about blessings that are yet to come. Well, what we have has already brought degrees of joy beyond the fullest expression of imagination. It’s brought us unmingled love. It’s brought us joy. It’s beyond all joy. It’s brought us a love and joy and peace that is without any exception. (Pause) (Quiet) We’re talking about a joy that is here now. Joy without a tear. Joy without the adverse circumstances that you have out there. Joy without fear, because we’ve made a way for every kind of man (unintelligible word). All of his oppositions, all of his so-called plans of destruction, we’ve got a plan for him to countermand. (Voice rises) We’ve got something to praise God for, we’ve got something that we can call God, God that cares, a God that is our Father, a God that loves us, a God that saves us, a God that heals us, a God that resurrects us when we’re dead. We have something to praise for. We know God. God is sitting here in our midst and we exalt the name of Father, because Father is God and God is all we need.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: (Moderates) And if this God doesn’t keep your house, your watch is in vain. You might as well just throw all the money that you’ve given to these churches, you might as well give them to the– the pimp on the coun– country square or the city block called the Tenderloin. You might as well give your money to one of those, because it’s just as wasted. You might as well go and flush it down one of the capitalist toilets because your money’s not going to do you anything unless you put it in this house, ‘cause in this house, (Voice builds) you can go up in Redwood Valley and see acres and acres, where a black recently died before I came, was shot down [in] their streets. Reverend Williams knew him. Reverend Williams who was crippled, a Baptist minister and invalid until I healed him. Now he’s able to hold two jobs. Now I have put a black right smack in the top of the sheriff’s department. I’ve put a black at the head of the largest factory. I’ve put my people in the schools. I’ve put them in the hospitals till we practically have the supervision of the general hospital. I’ve put them here, there and everywhere.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: (Voice moderates) And now, if you’re black and stopped on the highway by the California Highway Patrol, you will be much more likely to get on. Many of our people who didn’t know me will– when they go down through there and they were speeding, they didn’t know me and my teachings about moderation, and they were speeding and they found out where they were going, they said, go on. How many has that happened to? There’s a black brother back there, there’s another black brother, there’s a black sister. Yes, you’ve seen it happen to you. Now it pays to be black up there, because our God came and made us whole.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: What’s your jackleg preacher done for you lately? I see one of them jacklegs in here tonight. That’s why I’m preaching. What’s your jackleg done for you lately? Has he come and given you a place where once you were shot down [in] the streets and now if the highway patrol stops you, and they say you going to Peoples Temple? Oh, that’s all right. I’ll forgive you this time. Go on. Go on. That’s a good place to go. No, you haven’t got anything, and (Voice rises) I’ve given them acres and acres of beautiful property, the best of senior citizen homes, the best convalescent sanatoriums, the best swimming pool, the best of everything, the best of foods and gardens, the best dormitories. What’s your jackleg done for you lately? Just rob you blind. That’s what those yellow devils have done. Spineless devils, just taking from my people, rob my people, but I’m telling you, I’m a just God, and vengeance is mine and I will repay. I will shake their churches until they won’t even be able to keep the church mice coming. I said, I’ll shake those churches.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: In 20 years you won’t even be able to get a church mouse to come to them. There won’t be enough people to even entertain a building.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones:  (Moderates, then builds) Why, if you don’t know it, a revolution’s on the scene, and God will have his way, God, father, socialism, he’ll have his way. No man can hinder, nothing can prevent me from doing my just purpose, nothing can prevent me from having my holy way, nothing can prevent me from building this new holy, equitable, egalitarian, socialist order of people’s democracy. (Pause) (Moderates tone) And if you don’t believe it, just stand around and watch. Why– While you got time, jackleg, ‘cause you don’t repent, you’re not going to be around next July. You come over here to spy. I’ll take care of your spying. You been best to stay at home where you shoulda been. You go home and drink a little bit of that stuff you got under the mattress. Drink that junk.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones:  Don’t come over here and play with God, ‘cause God’s a live wire. You’re not in a crap game now. You’re in the game with God almighty, and he’s never lost a battle. (Ministerial fervor) He’s never lost a game that he ever played. (Pause) (Tone moderates, then builds) You puny churchite, you thought you’d run us outta town with all your lie– (Tape edit) lies day after day in the fall of this year, thought you’d get the attorney general [State Attorney General Evelle Younger], thought you’d get all the state to turn on us, but we turned all your aims and ambitions around, and the very one you tried to influence has just today wrote one of my members a very kind letter, the attorney general, we’ve gotten praise from the people that you wanted to throttle us, to destroy us, and now we are in the House of Congress, and you jacklegs are still just doing nothing, and you’re going to go down doing nothing, and you’ll always be known for doing nothing, because you can’t do anything but nothing.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: All right, child. I’ve said enough. Put that in your– your pipe and smoke it.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: (Draws out) Yes, yes, yes. (pause) Oh, yes.

(long pause, audience quietens)

Jones: (Quiet) Hallelujah. (Sings) Oh, what a mighty God–

(Tape edit)

(Tape returns with singing of “Oh what a mighty God we have”)

Jones: You may be seated. God, God, God. (Hums) (Pause, organ music in background) Remember that we are leaving tonight and you should go with us. We had a marvelous, miraculous day yesterday in Los Angeles, and again Los Angeles filled their temple. Cooler in Los Angeles last night than it was here tonight. San Francisco is getting some heat, and it’s good to have these changes, by changes in community. Community, you’ll build up your immunity. Even older, you’ll build up your immunity. During (unintelligible word) summer you’ll build up your immunity and won’t have as many viruses, or they won’t affect you as seriously as they will others. Because you will have built up an immunity to the germs that come flooding in from every place. You will have built resistance up, and I would recommend that that is the wise thing to do. Now, there’ll be a service here Sunday morning and there’ll be a service here Sunday evening. Mr. Jones’ custom is to hold meetings on alternate Sundays, and you should be under the jurisdiction of Mother [Marceline Jones]. She is a great mother to you, she been a faithful companion to me for 25 years–

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: –and she is here unless she is out on other work. There will be some days ahead in which she will take a while to be out on some important work, and I too, but my spirit is always present–

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: –personally. You needn’t worry about me taking a vacation, because we are now getting ready to vacation, is to take in common. When I do a vacation, we do that together. I haven’t missed a service in I don’t know how long, and I have eight a week. Some preachers, if they had eight in a month, they’d fall over, but I have eight services a week, and all night counseling on Monday – never fail – and sometimes all night on Tuesday, and most of the night on Wednesday before we leave for Los Angeles, and most of the night on Thursday before we start back here on Friday. But I shall have some things to take care of, for no one else can take care of it, except we take care of us and we gotta provision for anything that might come. You name it, we’ve got it.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: You could sing about these silly things about God being your father, your mother, your sister, your brother, your doctor, your lawyer. Well, you can understand why we were going to sing that – or should at least – more enthusiastically, because we’ve seen God be our Father, we’ve seen him be our lawyer. We saw the sister that stood up out here and said that she’d– I stopped her and I said you got a hepatitis which was a serious disease. It could destroy you. Go get it confirmed. And you’re going to see the same God take it away from her. That’s– That’s the same God (pause) You’ve heard the doctor’s name given here just a while ago. He confirmed– the doctor didn’t tell her. I told her, and she went to the doctor.

Male: That’s right.

Jones: (Voice builds) So we know of God that has been a doctor, we know a God that when our sons here standing before you have been under false arrest and put in jail, they said they’d be taken out, said that charges would be dropped, and he kept his word, so we should never let anybody out there singing to a spook sing more than we. We know God who is our father and our mother and our sister and our brother, our doctor, our lawyer– (Pause)  Good God almighty. How we should praise him.

(long pause. Audience quiet)

Jones: Well, isn’t it good? (pause) (stumbles over words) Good ol’ Reverend Ike. Now I’m glad. Now he’s having to take a shot at me. He said let these kind of people alone. He’s got to change the world. Wants to bring justice. Said that’s not your business to get involved with those people. He feels threatened by me, ‘cause he knows I’m gonna change the world.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: (Short laugh) Oh well. That’s just fraud. He’s a fraud. Who’d in a world would want to go around him, with his fancy clothes, and he tells you publicly, he spends over a thousand dollars, he dances a jig that’s queer, comes out in front of a floor – that’s the only kind of thing I’d call a queer – dancing around, says I spend a thousand dollars of the people’s money on my clothes. Don’t you think I’m pretty. I think he’s pretty, all right.

Congregation: (Applause and cheers)

Jones: I think he’s a pretty mess, and I’ve–

End of tape.

Tape originally posted January 2006