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Jones: The president of the United States has as much power now as Adolf Hitler had. (Pause) S’ what he said this morning. It’s on the radio. He said, we’ve got to cut back on his emergency powers, or we’re finished. How many heard him? He’s on the radio, today. Senator [Frank] Church of Idaho. He said there is more power in the hand– He said more power in the hands of the president of the United States than was in the hands of Adolf Hitler, when he di– established the dictatorship and set up the concentration camps. Now li– Now listen, love. You slept for an hour– la– the last fifty minutes. Now will you wake up? Thank you.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: (Clears throat) (Pause) Now when a senator starts telling you that, you better get nervous. There’s one thing I’d like to have. You say it’s too big to ask for. It’s awful big. I’d like a great, big jet airplane, a great, big jet airplane. And I know where I can get one that’ll seat– oh, it’ll seat– these things now seat hundreds. I know where I can get one for a half million dollars. (Pause) Say, that’s too big to think about. Oh, that’s not too big to think about, if you know what you’re talking about.
Congregation: Agrees, then applause
Jones: Say, why do you want that? I’ll tell you. I’ll tell you. ‘Splain it to you very easily. In the meantime, we can charter it. They’ll even– the company would even train our men to fly it. They’ll train them, so they would be able to be trained, and others could step into other jobs. Secondly, we can use it to go on our campaigns. But thirdly, if a sudden dictatorship came, we could zoom out of here fast.
Congregation: Calls and applause
Jones: Now we have so many things to maintain. You say, you always doing so much. Say, why are you protecting things up in Redwood Valley? Well, Redwood Valley is for the great apocalypse. If we have a nuclear holocaust with an earth tremor that will split off all through the San Andreas Fault, and drop everything west of the San Andreas Fault into the sea, then we’re prepared, because I’ve got a cavern deep, deep in the mountains that can take care of every one of you. No fallout can get to you, no radiation can get to you. You’re warm, it’s constant temperature, 55 to 62 degrees all year long, down there where I’ve got that. And we’ve got food for that. Say, well, how many emergencies can there be? There can be that emergency, it’s definitely gonna take place on one sixteen at 3:09, our people, those that were in the meeting when it came by revelation, know exactly the day, the month, the minute, the year. I will tell everyone about it two weeks before. But in the meantime, there could be a dictatorship that would sweep in. So we have to be prepared to take our flight to the valley in the case of great desolation or the apocalypse or the Armageddon that would spring forth in a nuclear hell, as Peter said, when the elements melt with a fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10, “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”). We have to be prepared for that, but we also have to be prepared to go to other places in the world if a dictatorship takes over, because I told you – and I never have broke my word – I told you, uh, not one of my children’s gonna end up in a concentration camp. I said they’ll have to kill us all first.
Congregation: Calls and applause
Jones: (Voice rises) Now I mean that. I mean, that’s one place we draw the line. We’ve been slaves once in this country, we’ve been in chains once in this country, they’ve sold us on the slave market once, but baby, they’re not gonna do it again.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: So they better let us get our planes, ‘cause we’ll be peaceful. (Pause) We don’t like desolation, we don’t like Babylon, we don’t like dictatorships. So if they want to ma– build a dictatorship, they can build it. That’s their business. But I’d like to have a way that I can get my children out quick. Say, where you going? Now that’s for Father to know and for you to find out.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Because Father already knows. Father knows his business. You never seen him go wrong yet. A year ago, this is not a– this church is not a year ago, this church is not a year old. Yeah, just about now, a year old, isn’t it? Just about a year old, right now. A year ago, we didn’t own a brick. Today, this Temple is paid for, every fixture, every nail, every window, all the improvements, a new kitchen, it’s paid for, lock, stock and barrel. One year.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Two hundred thousand dollars we’ve got wrapped up in this thing. Improvements and all that we put in it, organs, equipment, and we paid for it. Say, how do you do that? Well, I– it’s a very simple thing: quit giving your preachers anniversaries, and quit giving them Cadillacs, and you can pay for your church.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: I saw Reverend Ike on this morning, and it made me disgusted. Someone said come in and see this fool. I walked in, and I saw the fool. He had a little boy– little boy that was 13 years of age, he’d been on dope, and he was sayin’ that he contacted his subconscious mind or some other idiocy and said this little boy now was– the little boy was uh, in his church there to be on the TV camera, he takes these people and uses them, like that silly old Reverend Bean that was in here. He got no more oil than I got. I saw his face on the– on the magazine a while ago, with that 32 oil wells. He hadn’t got 32 wells of urine.
Congregation: Laughter, then scattered applause
Jones: Afore someone gonna get those folk for all the lies they tell. I don’t know what they do to these guys, they pay them off (unintelligible word), but I know that guy not got no oil wells. He was right here in this church, he didn’t like the straight truth. Oh, I’ll tell it on you anytime, I’ll tell it on you. He came around here, and I saw him just last week on the face of the action magazine, he’d had 32 oil wells. That’s a big lie. He got no 32 oil wells. (Pause) Nobody just bothers to check up this stuff. They just write any kinda lie they want to. You might have 32 old things you call oil wells, but if he’s got ‘em, they’re all dry.
Congregation: Scattered applause
Jones: (Laughs) S’ awful, these things, and he said, the little boy– and the grandmother said so pitifully, she said I’ve moved over here to New York, that he could be closer to you, because he’s trembling again. (Pause) The little boy was trembling again, he’s getting the nervousness that goes along with this– a drug addiction, and Reverend Ike says, let’s all stand and send him some kinda love prayer. (Pause) Crap with their love prayers. That little boy didn’t need a love prayer, he needed somebody to give him work and give him– like our children’s homes, something to– that Reverend Ike, I don’t know how people could be so ignorant. They haven’t got one children’s home, they’ve haven’t got one nursing home, they’ve haven’t got one senior citizen home, they’ve haven’t got an acre, they’ve haven’t got a ground to– uh, to prepare any food, we’ve got acres and acres of food that’s planted, you just can get some of the pears out there, uh, uh, at the end of the service, you can get them at a very reasonable figure, and if you come up to the Valley, uh, right now, you can get them, if you want to drive up, we can get some pears, free. We have to transport them down here, and naturally we’re gonna have to have some help for the church, but if you want to come up there, you can get pears at this time of the year, you can pick as many as you want to off of the trees around our property, free. Now that Reverend Ike doesn’t give those folk nothing. He says I send you out a love thought. Let’s stand up and give a little 13-year-old drug addict a love thought. How do we be so damned ignorant?
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: Now I seldom say a word like that, but Paul, he said a word worse than that when he said, I count it all dung. He called all that mess of lies and false prophets, he called that dung. You know what dung is. If you’re uh, half a century old as I am, you know what dung means. That’s the dirtiest word you can think for that that you flush down you call number two. That’s what Paul said in the Bible, he said, I count it all dung. And that’s what I count Reverend Ike. Dung. He’s dungheap (Philippians 3:8, “Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ”).
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: (Indignant) But I’ll tell you one thing, you can’t have a Reverend Ike without a– dout a whole lotta dumb house niggers. You gotta have a whole lotta dumb Aunt Janes and Uncle Toms, or Reverend Ike couldn’t get anywhere. I’m amazed that people could be so dumb. He stands up there with those fancy clothes and says he spends– oh, it breaks my heart for people, they’re so stupid, they’re so damned ignorant.
Congregation: Calls and applause
Jones: (off mike) You go ahead– You go ahead– (mike turns back on) You go ahead and turn your offering in, because it’s important that we be– (feedback) It’s wonderful. These damn things are made like– by crooks like Reverend Ike, that’s why they don’t want to work for me.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: (Calls out) The whole elements– the elements are against the people’s liberation. Everything’s under control of this love of money, which is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10, “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”). Nobody wants my voice, of course not. (Quietens) ‘Cause I’ll give people freedom. People– people have the nerve to– people have the nerve to question like this, somebody– these– these pants, somebody had the nerve, said, to (unintelligible word), said these are too short. Now someone here gave me these pants, so I don‘t have to buy them, so I can save people money. Sure, they’re too short. But what the hell is it to you?
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: Peace. (Pause) My shoes are also too short, but someone couldn’t wear them, because of bunions. So fine. I was able to save you money. I’ve been able to save you your money and give you land, been able to give you fine 13 lovely buses that can get us across this country if we don’t get the jet. I’d just like to have– I’m a kind of father that would like to have every ace– I want every ace I can get. We’ve got a way that the head of one of the parliament divisions in Canada says, your country’s gonna turn into concentration camps, and they’re gonna kill blacks and minorities, and uh, he gave his number and read to me his private phone, when we were up there on our vacation, because we all take our vacations together. Last year we went to Canada. We all take them together. I don’t go anywhere, I don’t take my people. And he said, you people are so wonderful, the way you cleaned up things and the way you little ones look after the older ones, and he said there’s such a togetherness. And he said, when you get ready, you just come on up, and we’ll let you through the ri– let you right through the frontier, right through the border. But it takes us 13, 14 hours to get there. (Pause) Oh, we’ll make it. Ha-ha-ha, I’ve got all kinds of plans. Shh. I’ve got all kinds of plans. If we don’t get a jet plane, we’ll make it, ‘cause we’ll go naked, if we have to, in a protest march, and they’ll let us get through there.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: Peace. (Pause) That Reverend Ike is so phony, it breaks my heart. He says, I’ll give you a love prayer. I carry your letter near me, he said. Never offered that child a home, never offered that precious grandmother that brought him all the way to New York, didn’t say a thing about, well, I’ll see that you’ve got a place to stay. All he says, I’ll s– he says, all stand up here in the great church, and let’s send him a love thought-a. Like a– oh, I’d like to have a hold of Reverend Ike. I’d spank him like a little two-year-old, ‘cause he’s a spoiled brat.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: Great big spoiled brat. I know some of you are fans of him, but you oughta be ashamed of yourself. He doesn’t do anything by take, and– in the Readers Digest and the Newsweek and in the San Francisco Chronicle and on the radio, I heard him with my own ears, he said, look at my clothes, fancy clothes. He said, I– you oughta be proud of me. He said, I spend a thousand dollars– over a thousand dollars every week. Every week. It broke my heart. He spent over a thousand dollars every week for money to buy clothes. That’s what he said. I didn’t say it. He said it himself. Nobody said it about him. I heard him, and some of you heard him, with his own mouth say it.
Congregation: Calls
Jones: (Voice rises) Our people in suffering– and it’s a pity, it’s a pity people won’t pay for the truth. We could hardly get a thousand dollars. Wednesday night, we couldn’t get a thousand dollars hardly in this church. We won’t pay a thousand dollars for the truth. We won’t– we’d do good to get a thousand dollars. You say, well, that proves you’re not of God. No, the more money you get, that move– proves the more of a devil you are, that’s what it proves.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: (Voice rises) And I’ve got the supernatural power, but that isn’t the thing that we’re gonna have to be saved by. If I save you that way, it’ll exhaust me, and then you’ll lose a leader. ‘Cause I’ve got more power than anyone, but my power’s dependent upon your faith and your willingness to serve others. (Pause) Now, in this consciousness, we’re expected to work out our own plan of salvation (Philippians 2:12, “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”), we’re expected to give of ourselves freely. As we have freely received, we should freely give (Matthew 10:8, “…freely ye have received, freely give.”). But it’s amazing to me, it’s amazing to me (Pause) that Ike can get all that kinda money, and wear with those fancy clothes. Oh, he’s gonna get his day. I’m not worried about the time of God’s time, I’m not talking about Principle’s time, he’s– he’s just the same as dead. (Pause) But it’s amazing that people will be so stupid, stupid, when right now, the average black woman makes only four thousand dollars a year, all over America, whereas the average black man makes five thousand. But the average black– white man makes ten thousand. That’s the way it is in America today. Ten thousand. The average white man makes ten thousand a year, and the average black woman makes four thousand. Even the average white woman only makes six thousand. All women are second class citizens, white and black. There’s not– There’s a– there’s a– hardly a narrow gap between the black woman and the white woman, so the black woman and the white woman oughta recognize that you’re sisters with a common problem, because your wage scale is almost the same. (Voice rises throughout) Wo– Nobody has any use for women, because of that junk that Ike’s preachin’ out of that King James Bible. That’s why people have held down women. That’s why they held down blacks. Said, slaves, obey your master (Colossians 3:22, “Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God.” See also Ephesians 6:5, Titus 2:9). Be subject, it says, wife, to your husband. That means be a slave (Colossians 3:18, “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.”). Nosirree, sir, I don’t care who said it, I don’t care what book wrote it, I won’t be subject to no damn fool.
Congregation: Cheers and sustained applause
Jones: Now last night, we had wonderful healings. Two cripples, yesterday, miracles and miracles and miracles, and the night before, braces taken off. Wonderful things. But we sit and listen to truth. I do not intend to extend the truth as much today, but I have been impressed that we need to get the truth in us, because a double-minded man is unstable (James 1:6-8, esp. James 1:8, “A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.”). Now some of you, you will s– you will suck out there that slop, you slip outta here and go to a slop pen, and you expect to get something from me. You can’t get it that way. This woman down here who is 98 had to had faith to come all the way from the East. This woman here that uh, is sitting on the end that was operated five times, she had to come here a long time, months and months. She never was called out, but she wasn’t sucking around on some old other false adder [udder]. She wasn’t sucking around on something else that was false. She came in here and l– began to learn the teaching, and even though she’d been through the fifth operation, she was not going to be impatient. She stayed. She stayed put. But some of you suck at one tit, and then you go over and suck on another tit, and you’re all around here getting all the old evangelists’ tits, suckin’ on ‘em, suckin’ to every old thing comes along. You’re double-minded and you’re unstable in all your ways (James 1:6-8).
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: You can’t suck on one udder and then come in here, in this holy place, this place that’s a liberation, a people’s movement, you can’t come in here and drink at this fountain and go back and drink it slop. What in the world you talkin’ about? Says, Ike helps people. Ike doesn’t help anybody. (stumbles over words) As many people as– as a mass ministry that he does, all that money, he’s got gangland money behind him, all that junk– Say, oh yeah, you’re sayin’ some strong stuff, my attorneys look funny, I don’t care, let him sue me, I’d like to get in a suit with him.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: You look at those white thugs that are with him. Look at ‘em. You ever been to one of his meetings? Say, have you? Not in the person, but I’m in the Spirit everywhere, I’m looking at everybody when I want to look at ‘em.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: Say, I don’t like for you to talk about Reverend Ike. Well then, you just don’t like me, because I’ll talk about any d– old rotten dirty liar any time I choose.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: I never will– I never will forget what he said to a group of black people. They held up Colonel [Harland David] Sanders. That old Colonel Sanders, he never would even hire a black, till I took a fight on with him. His commercials didn’t have a black in them, till I personally took the c– crusade on, and wrote letters and wrote letters and bombarded him till he hired the first black people in his programs. I– I don’t mean I did it by the Spirit. We did it with letters, we did it with political pressure, with social pressure, and Reverend Ike – before I even got that done – held that man up and says, all black people should be like Colonel Sanders. Said, he made it. Now any black that would listen to that kinda idiocy, says Colonel Sanders is an example of what all of us could be. Well, the only difference is, Colonel Sanders is white, and that’s a special privilege ticket in this country.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: I know you didn’t come here to hear this. You came here to heal. And I have caused them to spit out cancers in every service. I caused them to pass them th– all this week in every service, cancers, cripple, two were healed yesterday, on Saturday, a woman on Friday– on Saturday night– Friday night, she was crippled from two accidents so badly that her bones were just rickety, and they were all meshed together, but she danced just like a little baby. But I’ll tell you one thing, if you want to get these goodies, you’re gonna set and get some of that crap outta your head.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: That’s still a nicer word than Paul. Paul said dung. I still haven’t– Crap’s a nice word compared to dung. The Hebrew, it’s the dirtiest cuss word you can ever use, but Paul said, I look on that mess of false prophets, and he said, all these people like Ike, (Cries out) I count as dung.
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: And you– you still don’t know what dung is, some of you, look around, wonder what dung is. It’s shit, baby, that’s what it is.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: Peace. And it’s in your Bible. Paul said, all these liars that steal and rob the people, I count it all dung (Philippians 3:8).
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: I’m amazed, I’m amazed at the ignorance. That’s why I want to get you out. We got a ig– we got ignorant folk– uh, the first thing Reverend Ike would say, I know what he’ll say if they bring a dictator in. He’ll say, it’s good for the people. And his fool Aunt Janes and Uncle Toms will set there and say, yassuh, nosuh.
Congregation: Laughs
Jones: I looked over their faces today, and I look at your faces, and if you’ve ever looked at that TV, ‘cause that’s as close as I want to get to him, I wouldn’t get near him, I wouldn’t have nothing to do with him, ‘cause I’ve got too much justice, too much goodness, too much health, I wouldn’t be near him, and some of you have seen too many die that’ve come in and out of here, and that’s what’s gonna happen to that Reverend Bean, you watch him. You watch Reverend Bean, you watch him closely, you– (tape edit) don’t come and drink at this fountain and then go back to that slop heap. You better listen, Sarah. Come on, now. Look up here. You better listen now, all of you better look forward. (Ministerial cry) You don’t go from here back to the crap of that dunghill, you don’t go after tasting of this heavenly gift, you cannot find it possible to go back to such dead works (Hebrews 9:14, “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?”; see also, Hebrews 6:1). If you do– now you watch Reverend Bean, he’s as dead as if he were already laying in a casket. He’s dead.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: [Excited tone] You say, I’m gonna go back. Well, you just watch what happens to you. You go back, and you sit in that slop, and you’ll die, and you’ll find yourself in concentration camps, you’ll find yourself in hell, you go back. (Voice drops, still intense) If you have to test me, you go back, because when you’ve seen purity, goodness, mercy, and you’ve seen our children’s home, all the people we adopt, all the seniors we take in, give them homes without money, all the land we give to provide for our people, and all black people and all poor white people and all brown people. If you, having seen that, go back to a dirty, rotten devil that says I spend a thousand dollars a week of the people’s money for clothes, he said I’m the body beautiful. Stupid ass.
Congregation: Laughter and applause
Jones: He’s a body beautiful. If he is, then– (pause) If he’s the body beautiful, then crap don’t stink.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: I saw him go down the aisle – and you’ve seen him in the natural, I’ve seen him in the spirit – go down and say, don’t touch me. If you want to hug me, just put your arms around yourself and go like that.
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: Somebody the other day got all shook. A sister came up, she was just carried away, and she came up and just shook the liver out of me. She was carried away and– and people wanted to stop her. I’m not gonna break. I’m not gonna break. It– Natural not everyone could do that in every service, but when one person just breaks out of their hold and so grateful and they do it, just let ‘em alone, but Rev– these– these reverends, they don’t want to be touched. They’re afraid their hair’s gonna get mussed, or they’re gonna– my– he– he– he’s afraid the boys wouldn’t like him so well. (unintelligible exclamation)
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: (Cries out) Go tell him. I know you all do anyway. You’ve already told him. Why don’t he sue me? Go tell him. He knows he don’t wanna get in no fight with Jim Jones, I’ll tear hell outta him.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: (unintelligible word) Sister, you like Reverend Ike, you outta get on outta here, ‘cause you’re in a bad place. You’re in bad place.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: I seldom talk about Reverend Ike, but you shouldna got in here. I’ll talk about any old damn robber, I’ll talk about any Uncle Tom that’s trying to sell our people, and tellin’ us to be like Colonel Sanders, and saying not to involve yourself, he said, don’t involve yourself with social issues, don’t involve yourself with crusades, don’t involve yourself with any of the movements for peace or brotherhood, he said, just think positive and send my love thoughts-a.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: The pity is that we’re so brainless, that we follow the damn fool. It’s pitiful. You say, why are you saying that? I’m saying it, it proves my case that much more. You’d better be ready to get to Redwood Valley on a moment’s notice, we’d better be a–re– ready in a twinkling of an eye. And I don’t mean to fly away, baby, on wings, ‘cause they been givin’ us that wing crap for years. I don’t believe in none of that wing crap they tell us about. First place, not gonna fly away anyway. Says as it was in the days of Noah, so it’ll be in the days of the Son of Man. One shall be l– left and one shall be taken (Matthew 24: 37-40, “But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”). Now who was le– who– who was taken in the days of Noah? The bad folk. The bad folk, that’s the ones that we– were taken. Say, you’re always talking about that was the way the rapture’s gonna be, you’re gonna go up. You’re gonna go up. (Short laugh) The only people gonna remain’s gonna be the good folk, ‘cause they’re gonna have enough sense not to trust in angel wings and false Bible promises and s– pearly white cities and the gates of gold (Revelation 21:21, “And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.”). They’re gonna learn to look after themselves and work out their own salvation (Philippians 2:12) and get ‘em a cave or get ‘em a jet to go someplace in a beautiful jungle, they’ll know just exactly what to do, they won’t trust none of those old white angel wings, and they’re gonna be the ones that’ll be remaining and the others’ll be taken.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: How about you, Father? One sister said yesterday to me– No, it wasn’t yester– day before yesterday, she said, you, Father, oughta believe in angels. I wasn’t even talkin’ about angels, don’t know what the hell’s the matter with that stupid woman, I was talkin’ about in the– the television channels, the educational channel, KQED, that’s supposed to be the most liberal, progressive channel in America, it shows angels on the TV, it says, be an angel, be a donor. And all the angels are blond-headed and white with nice white wings. Every one of ‘em. And I said, there’s no hope for a country that is as stupid as that, with all the black people in San Francisco and the bay and in Los Angeles for these educational channels – and you’ll see them on your educational channel – they’ll say, be a donor, be an angel, give to the educational channel, and they show nothing but white Goldilock angels. They don’t give a damn ‘bout black folk.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: And that’s all I was talkin’ about, I wasn’t talkin’ about whether I believe in angels or not. I happen to be a messenger, if you wanted to look at it in those terms, I happen to be from another planet, I– uh, or another plane, or you call it heaven. Whatever you want to call it, I know where I’m from. It makes so difference. But I’m walking here in human clay, in human form, and I’m gonna stay here in human form until I get you up to where I am.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: (clears throat) Peace. Is that a Baptist meeting in the balcony? You look like you’re a– following a different beat up there. Are you following a different drummer? I only got two people up there. Deborah (unintelligible word). I’ve only got two people up there said Amen. Are you listening to some other person, are you not listening to me, or what’s going on? Is there no PA system up there?
Congregation: Response (unintelligible)
Jones: The– Uh, we got two churches up there.
Congregation: Stirs, then scattered applause
Jones: No, some are givin’ a little faint claps before, but n– now a few more gettin’ alive, and there was a couple up there, I’ve seen you just movin’, movin’ your hands and– but sometimes I look up there in the balcony and you act like you would like to be in Reverend Ike’s church. (clears throat)
Congregation: Calls and applause
Jones: Now I don’t mean to be foolish, though you are saved by the foolishness of preaching (1 Corinthians 1:18-23). I’m not trying to be supercilious or to be sarcastic, (Pause) but I tell you, if you didn’t believe that America was headed for trouble, just watch Reverend Ike’s program once, and you’d know we’re in trouble. All those thousands of people gather around– and look at their faces. If you don’t appreciate Peoples Temple, you oughta look at my people out here, look at their faces, and look at the faces of those (mispronounces) vapid, dumb– They look (pantomime)
Congregation: Laughter
Pause
Jones: I uh, (clears throat) wanted to tell you, I just sent a message to Lillian Neil’s daughter, ‘cause I’ve had a feeling of her heaviness, she was attempting to commit suicide, she was just right in the process when I sent the message. They called her as I had instructed her, and in the moment, she has changed, and it’s lifted it, and everything is fine now.
Congregation: Cheers and applause
Jones: Peace. (Pause) I’ve called out all kinds of people today. I’ve sent people running on various things and to take care of various works. Sometimes the most magnificent– and always the most magnificent part of my work is done quietly, like that, but if you don’t know Lillian Neil, you’ll be hearing from her daughter, I just saved her in the process of committing suicide, and now it’s lifted, even while I’m preaching, I stopped a– while I was listening to preach, uh, the preaching and sending out and writing down notes about your healing. That was one of the things, the message that I sent and transmitted to one of the workers. And they called her, and now it’s lifted.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Peace. Lillian Neil is a follower. The daughter wasn’t, but I’m sure she’ll be touched that I would have knowledge of her need, and call her right during the time when she feels like committing suicide. So you awarer– always be aware that uh, the god at hand is worth two in the bush.
Congregation: Laughter and scattered applause
Jones: (Quiet) Very well. Very well. If you did not know we were in trouble, as I said, look– just look at some of these big healers. Look. Look at the TV station. Look over Reverend Ike’s audience. And if you don’t see the difference between our faces– Oh, we got some here don’t know which end’s up, but, you look at the most of them, look at most of their faces, and you’ll see, it’s not that we’re more beautiful– oh, on the contrary, always the true is like that was said of Jesus– the true vine, is like it was said of Jesus (John 15:1, “I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.”), the foxes have dens and birds have nests (Matthew 8:19-20, “And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.”; see also Luke 9:57-58,), the Son of Man has no form or comeliness, no beauty that anybody would desire them (Isaiah 53:1-2, “Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.”), it isn’t that we’re beautiful, on the contrary, but there’s a– there’s a look of knowledge, there’s a look of sensitivity, there’s a look of feeling in the faces of our true followers. And if you looked on that TV audience– I studied them and I made it– I brought attention to the people who were there, back there, I said, look, look at their faces. There’s nothing in them. They’re just like automatons. All they’re interested in is getting something for nothing or to get a false promise or live with an illusion, they want a prosperity, they want a blessing, they don’t want to help anybody, all the people that gather around Ike, they’re not people that want to give, they want to receive. That’s what I love about looking in your faces. You– You’ve come– The ones that stuck with me, you’ve had to be special, ‘cause I’ve made it hard. This way’s hard. It’s rough. Like some sister yesterday, Katie West in this assembly, had to take her car many times – I didn’t ask her – but the conscience in her uh, caused her to take her car several time because people got away from here, before people had a way home. And she gave her car, run it back and forth, back and forth. And people like Sister Miller and Sister Morris, who’ve given their car over to the cause. It’s hard. That’s easy out there. Just set and look like a dummy, and give nothing of yourself. But that’s why you (unintelligible word) better know that we are in trouble. America is in trouble. You know how much trouble we are with the white man. Yesterday, the paper showed you, lovely black family, he’s an engineer, I think, he had two children, and uh, they in Detroit, lived in a unprejudiced neighborhood, they thought. NAACP had given this community an award for being the best white neighborhood. So he moved into it. They stabbed it, the police dog, they stole the little boy’s toys, the tricycle, they beat up on the little boy, they rocked the house, they set it afire, they put KKK, burned it into the grass. (Pause) And you saw it on your paper and your TV, that family said I had to move, he had to take– clear off back in the slums and put his people, his children, his wife, they couldn’t even go back one more night, they had to take all the family and go and stay with his mother-in-law, because they weren’t safe. So you know how much trouble we got with white people. We got a– (Pause) Is she still here? Yes, she’s still here.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: I tell you, when you see some of these folks slip in here– uh, you can tell a honky, whether they’re black or not. If you know– If you know a white person is black, if they are– all– all you black here, yes, even though they got blond hair, they’re black. If they’re members of this family, they’re black. Because anyone’s who got conscience or really Christ understanding, or Jehovah or Buddha or [Karl] Marx or whatever you want– any good enlightened soul’s understanding, they’re gonna identify with the poor. You always said, I am a champion of the underdog. I identify with the persecuted. I identify with those that are suffering. Well, the whites in here are not white. They’re black.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Peace. They’re black. They’re Indian. They’re Mexican. They’re identifying with the people that’ve been suffering and persecuted and prosecuted. (Pause) But sometimes you look around here and you’ll see somebody walks in here, I can spot ‘em a mile off. I just put down my glasses, or I’ll look. And you oughta tell by the way I look, when somebody comes in, or just look, and some of you oughta take my message from my look, and get over there and talk to those folk, and then when somebody’ll go out like a while ago, one of those Uncle Tom fellows tryin’ to make his hair look it’s white, I watched him, went out, sent a word for him, and he was a spy on spies.
Voice: (unintelligible)
Jones: Well, I know he was, ‘cause I said (unintelligible word). Lying dogs. I know who’s here, spying.
Congregation: Delayed applause
Jones: So why don’t you recognize– People come in here, you ask them and say, do you believe in brotherhood? What do you mean by brotherhood? You believe in interracial equality. That’s what you ask them. Say, do you believe it’s all right for anybody to marry who they choose, or live where they want to, work where they want to? If they say no, say I think, you know, you got the wrong church.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: We oughta be sweet and kind, if someone says, well, I don’t really know, I never thought about it, well, you might be able to work with a person like that. But if someone– I– we’ve let people get in here– I had a woman in here, she had to die before I could get her out of it, then I resurrected her and she never did come back. She died back here on the end of the aisle, white woman. And when I got through talkin’ to her, I knew why she died. Ye gods, the woman says, I don’t think– I look around here and I see this one– this white one with the black babies and this black one with white babies, and I don’t understand all this, says, I think that’s terrible. (Pause) Said I don’t think that you should mix– Said, you don’t ever see birds mix. Honey, we aren’t birds.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: That’s so stupid– Anybody stupid say that, you ever see birds mix. There not a bit of difference between a white human and a black human, only the s– color of the skin.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: That’s all there is, just a little bit of pigmentation you can’t even measure. Them fools takin’ about birds. Uh, you never saw two birds alike. Little ol’ sparrow and a big robin. Naturally, they don’t mix. (Pause) They couldn’t get together.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: But you better– you better watch that white dog you got, I don’t care, she may be all curled up in a little white poodle, and she may have everything just– you maybe had her groomed last week, but you better watch when she go down, one of them black alley dogs comes out, ‘cause she’s had it.
Congregation: Laughter and applause
Jones: Every time– You say, why are you talking this? You never talk so silly. I’ve got my reasons. I’m trying to get rid of some folk that don’t need to be here.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: I’ve always become all things to all men, that by any means I might save the more (1 Corinthians 9:19-23, esp. 1 Corinthians 9:20, “…I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.”). I know what I’m doing. You just (unintelligible word) take that little ol’ groomed poodle and you can put little bells on her and little ol’ collar, and you can just have her all fixed up with a ribbon, but honey– and you can bring up a white poodle just like her, and she’ll go away from that white poodle and hunt up a black alley dog, and boy, won’t they go to it.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: (Laughs) I just took care of that white sister. She won’t be back.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: The only way she’ll come back is if some of you brothers visit her on the sly.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: (Laughs) It’s wonderful. (Pause) (clears throat) Turn around and hug your neighbor.
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: (Off mike) I just love to watch people (unintelligible word) (laughs) (clears throat) (tape edit) Hug her. (Pause) Kiss and hug ‘em all up, that’s it.
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: (Laughs) (Pause) (tape edit) –come on, rub noses with him. (Pause)
Voice off mike: (unintelligible)
Jones: Yeah, umm-hmm [yes], umm-hmm. (Pause) Some of you folk don’t know how to hug. Now, when we hug, this is the way we hug.
Congregation: Calls and laughter
Jones: Hug. C‘mon. Hug. (Pause) Let’s hug. Let’s hug. Let’s hug. C’mon. (Pause) I was tryin’ to set an example, I can’t– I can’t hug all (unintelligible word)
Congregation: Commotion
Jones: I wish I could hug all of you. I can’t, because I’m the type of person that has to hug everyone. So I won’t do it unless I (unintelligible word away from mike)
Congregation: Commotion
Jones: Don’t be afraid to hug. Don’t be afraid to hug. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you. (apparently mingles through crown, hugging and blessing). C’mon back there. Hug ‘er now. Shake ‘em up.
Congregation: Commotion
Tape edit
Jones: If I had my way, we’d do nothing but hug the rest of the day, but I did not proceed further, because it’s my feeling about you, you’re all one to me, you’re all one, you’re all the same, you’re all my precious, precious children, and if I start out there, I’d have to hug all of you, because I don’t want to hug one without hugging you all. I was just giving you an example of how to do, ‘cause some of you act like you’re afraid you’re gonna get broke or something.
Congregation: Commotion
Jones: Peace. That is why– (Pause) I’ve got everything practically I want for you. Got an apartment now, and so we can have some housing here for people who don’t feel that they’re yet able to come up to Redwood Valley. (Pause) But there only one thing that I’d like us to see. I’d like to see a– a plane that belonged to us.
Congregation: Stirs, then applause
Jones: Peace. Tomorrow– tomorrow, we’ve gotta get something else to take with us. A kidney machine. Kidney machine.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Tomorrow. Tomorrow, we’re gonna get it. That’s our intention tomorrow. Say, why? Well, because– (pause) Thank you, thank you, that’s very sweet. That’s very sweet of you. We want to have a kidney machine, because people die unless they have kidney machines. Twenty thousand people died just recent times, just last year, because they couldn’t get to a kidney machine. Kidney machine will clean the blood, pur– purify the blood for those that’ve got kidney problems, kidney failure. So I– I– I would like to also have a hospital. (Pause)
Congregation: Delayed applause
Jones: I would like to have a hospital, but right now we have to wait, because in these crisis times, as Senator Church from Idaho and several – Senator Monsdale [Walter Mondale] also – that was their appeal, early this morning, I was listening at five o’clock this morning, said something has to be done quickly to cut back the president’s emergency powers, or we’re in trouble, because he has more dictatorial power than Hitler did when he established his Third Reich. He has more power than the Vermont [Weimar] Constitution gave Hitler– (pause) than the Vermont Republic, rather, gave Hitler. That’s what he said. Emergency powers. Already the president [Richard Nixon] can order you, with Executive Order 11490 and 11647, he can or– change people from this whole California, put ‘em all in the desert, if he wants to. He can take over all private property, all public transportation, every sheriff’s department, every police department, all the National Guard of course is already in his domain. In one order, he can take this country over, or whoever the president might be. And Senator Church says, Congress must come to its senses (cries out) now.
Congregation: Delayed applause
Jones: That’s what he said. He said the Congress must come to its senses now, or we’re in trouble. I don’t believe that people ever come to their senses, except us. I don’t believe they come to their senses. I’ve been here– anybody who’s seen me, see the miracles I’ve done– You just looked at one man shot three times today. There is Ron, there is Brother [Paul] Flowers, been shot, they’ve been– got up, and even the bullets have gone clear through them, never even made a mark. They’ve seen more miracles– I’ve brought more people out of the wheelchairs, more people from– they were deaf and dumb. That woman right there, 98 years, going to– she was laying on bed, an invalid when she came to me, respiratory disease. Going to the bathroom alone, (unintelligible word) alone, that goes on all vacations with me. Sister Ever [Rejoicing]– Now people have seen that. (unintelligible exclamation)
Congregation: Scattered applause
Jones: Shh. Don’t clap. What’s more, they’ve seen us put our money– Last night, one of our sisters, her husband not a member of the church, but we– she’s a good sister, and her husband, he’s a– he drinking too much. Well, we didn’t think twice about getting him out. I asked her first if she wanted him out– (Laughs)
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: Naturally I think she– That’s up to the sister. (stumbles over words) maybe if we get some rest, but we didn’t ask the moment, we got that bail and put it up. All of you know about it, don’t need to go into it. And we had for Brother [David Betts “Pop”] Jackson, who is, as I said, 93 years of age, when they falsely arrested him, thousand dollars was put up right then. (Pause) When people go, ask them where they’re going. (Pause) Say, come back and see us sometime when the world’s on fire.
Congregation: Stirs
(Pause)
Jones: I don’t understand how anybody could come around me, seeing me adopt eight babies, come around these old used robes, and I don’t even– Sister here, Sister Wilson will clean them, for nothing. But I don’t even like to take them uh, because she– her boss is nice, and he said he wanted to clean as many as possible for nothing, but I will iron them up and spot them as much as I can, so as not to take advantage even of her kindness. (Pause) And (pause) this morning (clears throat) I was back there cleaning the rug, shampooing the r– shampooing a rug. I didn’t have nobody else do it. An awful mess somebody made, so I shampooed it all myself. (Calls out) I don’t know why anybody (pause) wouldn’t be in here. There’s nothing else but false gods. This is the only true god that’s honored in this place. The only thing true in the whole church world (John 17:3, “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”).
Congregation: Applause
Jones: I don’t understand it. I wish I knew a man like Jim Jones. And I never preached like this before, but this is just the depth of my heart. (Ministerial fervor) I wish I had a man to follow like Jim Jones. I’d be so glad, oh, I would take just anything he said, I would do anything he wanted me to do, I’d give everything to follow a man like Jim Jones. But I have to be that man. It’s a lonely job being that man, because I’ve got to be the man that will never let you down, and I never will. I’ve got to be the man that’s as dependable as the Rock of Gibraltar, I’ve got to be as unchangeable at the sun. (Pause) And I am. But oh, how I’d like to have a man to follow like you have.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: (Ministerial cadence) I wish I knew a man that would help me like I help you. I wish I knew a man that had a heart for his people like I have for you. I would like to find such a man. (Voice lowers) I don’t even want him for me. I don’t want him for me, ‘cause I don’t want anything for me. I just want to have another man like me for you. (Pause) It was thrilling yesterday, when I was able to use one of my men, in case this body have to be away for a while, it was beautiful how I just called him out and said, you’re gonna stand there, I’m gonna send my thoughts to you, ‘cause I felt some of my people gettin’ shaky, what’s gonna happen to me if Jim Jones isn’t here. What’s gonna happen? They got kinda shaky. And I stood him over there at that microphone, nice gid– nice young man, got part Indian in him, all races and alley dog like the rest of us. (clears throat) Studying to be a lawyer, halfway through law school, and I just says, stand up there, I’m gonna practice God through you. And that’s what I’m doing. Only I perfected it. Some people practice a piano, and then some other people have perfected it. So I practiced God, and I went through his mind and called out, when you were one, wasn’t you healed? What was he, the– I don’t remember now, the head? The ear infection? Or joint? Who was the other sister I called out? You were called out and healed from him. I told him my thoughts, I wrote them down here as I do, and then I meditated on them, and they went right through to him, and he brought the healing. Marvelous, marvelous, marvelous.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: And that’s what I want. I’d like to have a man like Jim Jones, so that there’d be more of me for you. (Pause) So we gotta get on with it. Now the offering was taken, but the offering wasn’t uh– It wasn’t right. Now I can’t guarantee we can get a plane, that’s a half million dollars, but I’d like to ask today, how many would help us, right now. You understand why we need one?
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: Do you?
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: Quick. To be quick. Also we could get some job training for our people. Our men would have jobs that people would want, wherever we went. You understand me? (Pause) And we can buy a plane– We can buy a plane from a company for a half million dollars that will train– a little over a half million, five four– five hundred and forty-seven thousand, I think, wasn’t it?
Voice in Congregation: too soft
Jones: And they’ll train, they’ll train. It’s a jet. Four engine, isn’t it?
Voice in Congregation: That’s right.
Jones: Four engine. Here’s a pilot, he– he’s a pilot, professional pilot, he’s good pilot. He’s pilot in the Air Force.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: And as I said, we could use it– we could use it for vacation, if they want to, or use it for trips until we did, and we could chart [charter] it out. But what I want it for, is if a day of emergency comes, I want to be able to not cause nobody any grief. I don’t want to fight with nobody. I just want to get my people out.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Say, do you think that’s gonna happen? (clear throat) I know, I know that the sixteenth at 3:09 is gonna happen. I know that’s gonna happen. So, I’ve got such an ominous feeling about the other, it might happen before the sixteenth. (Pause) So all the provisions we got up there in the valley would be wonderful, but if we have a dictatorship, the valley isn’t enough protection against a dictatorship. So we gotta have little place here and a little Shangri-La over there. You know, over there. Some of you don’t know where “over there” is. But I do. And that’s good enough for you, if you know me. I do.
Congregation: Response
Jones: (Cries out) I know a place where I can take you, where there’ll be no more racism, where there’ll be no more division, where there’ll be no more class exploitation, I know just the place. (Voice drops) Oh yes, I do.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: (Conversational) And you won’t have to– And you won’t have to worry about getting angel wings, if we get our own plane. (Pause) And we’d have something to bring in, that would be valuable to us, if we resettled. Say, you really do think we might have to resettle. (Pause) The Jews should’ve. (Pause) And they just held on, they held on, they wouldn’t let loose. They thought, oh, it can’t happen to us. We’re God’s chosen people. Well, we niggers know we ain’t God’s chosen people.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Now you two sisters that came to get healed, you just stay (unintelligible word)– some of you folk act like you’re– You see? Look at them. New people coming in, they’re precious people, they don’t know their ass from a hole in ground.
Congregation: Reacts
Jones: I’m lookin’ right at you. You look like you’re all tied up. You– you oughta be at home with me. I’ve got the biggest heart, I’ve adopted eight children, and you look at me– I’m lookin’ at one right now, you’re stiff, tight. You oughtna be scared of me, you oughta be scared of all those preachers that’ve robbed you, that’s who you oughta be scared of.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: (clears throat) You can look around. Don’t do it. I don’t want anybody to be made uncomfortable. ‘Cause you can look up here. I’m not being stared at by white people that hate me or dislike me. I’m being stared at by some black people, who don’t know they’re black.
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: (Calls out) Where do you think you are, in 1973? What’s just happened? (Voice lowers, intense) They just exposed all over America that black children are being castrated. The government has castrated them. They just exposed this year that blacks were given syphilis and never given a penicillin treatment and experimented with like a bunch of common rats by the U.S. Department of Health, that 350 Mexican mothers was given a drug that has produced cancer in everything that’s ever taken it, and they were told that it was birth prevention, and it didn’t even prevent them from getting pregnant. They got pregnant, and they’re doomed, they’re absolutely doomed to die in 18 years, no less, they and their children will die of cancer, and the government did this. What in the hell’s the matter with you? Don’t you know where you are?
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Come on, sister. Don’t you know where you are?
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Nod your head. That’s better, that’s better. (Pause) Don’t you know where we are? We’re living in Babylon. Some of you act like you’ve never read some of the books about what we’re in. Have you read our brothers’ books as they cried, telling what kind of problem we’ve got? We been reading too many King James’ fairy tales. (Pause) And I don’t think there’s anybody that’s got the heart for the people like we have here, but it woulda been uh, done some of you good if you’da read Soul on Ice and some other books instead of the stupid stuff you been readin’. (Pause) How many have read Soul on Ice in here?
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: You never read about Soul on Ice, huh? (Pause) Do you know who’s read ‘em? Half the folk here has read ‘em. Uh, more than half who are not black but white. Well, uh– It isn’t that he’s [Eldridge Cleaver] got the answers. No, no, I’m not suggesting that he has all the answers – certainly violence is not an answer – but he sure tells you what you’re facing. And you should know. You better read more about Harriet Tubman to see what kind of conditions we’re facing. (Pause) I’d like to see you get free. But there’s an old sayin’, my– my folks and your folks told us about it, God not help those unless they help themselves.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: God’ll help those who help themselves. And there not gonna be any help, not gonna be (calls out) nary a bit a help– (Pause) Shake– shake yourself a little bit, honey child.
Congregation: Stirs
Nearby voice: (unintelligible)
Jones: Hmm? Peace. (pause) I wonder who will help us. Now we’re gonna call this Operation Plane. (Pause) And I wonder who’ll help us get a hold of that thing. Now anybody got any questions about why we need a plane, ‘cause I’ll be glad to explain ‘em to you. We should have one. (Pause) And we want to represent it just exactly like it is, we should have one, because I can get you someplace in about six hours, by jet, where your troubles would look like nothing compared to what they do now. (Pause) Your troubles would seem like nothing there. I don’t want to leave this country – this is our country – but I certainly don’t intend to stay here If they take it over with a dictatorship.
Nearby voice: That’s right.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: I know, when Marcus Garvey tried to do it, they tried to block him. (Pause) But uh, there’s a difference between some of us and Marcus Garvey these days. If they try to block us, they better be damn ready to kill all of us.
Congregation: Shouts and applause
Jones: Peace. (Pause) Let ‘em go home, don’t talk to ‘em, that’s uh– It’s all right. Let ‘em be. (Pause) Anybody that can put on any kinda contest, any kinda program, any kind of thing that you can think of, but she just take an act of faith. So don’t get the idea– (tape edit) – of what you can. (Pause)
Congregation: Laughter
Jones: Now (laughs) (Pause) I’ll tell you one thing, I’d do anything to get you free, that wo– I’d do anything but do violence to somebody, I’d do anything. I’d do anything to get you free, and I will. So if you read about me doing something in the paper sometimes, say I don’t understand why he’s doing it, you can know one thing. I did it to get you free. (Pause)
Congregation: Applause
Jones: I’m going to mention some sums here, and let’s see what we can do. I didn’t know we were going to do it, but I feel we’re gonna take it uh, on, and even in a week when the offering is terrible, but we ought to have us a plane. We ought to. (Pause) Yeah, the attorney over there that was– I healed of cancer, the Jewish attorney, some of these people lost all their relatives like he, Dr. [Richard] Tropp lost every relative he’ve got, every one of ‘em was killed in concentration camps. Didn’t have nobody. They killed them all in Germany. And Germany had less power in the hands of the president than we’ve got in ours today.
Voice in Congregation: True. Right.
Jones: So, yes, sister. (Pause) (unintelligible word)
Woman 1: Uh, I’m– I’m not a member of this congregation. I belong to church. And I talked to one of the sisters on the welcome committee as I came in. I explained to her, I stand to be changed or questioned, whatever, but I stood to make a contribution to the uh, idea you have of buying a plane. I do a lot of fishing–
Jones: Now, little– little– a little slower, darling, it’s– it’s coming through garbled.
Woman 1: –do a lot of fishing, and I’m a friend to Sister Jones. I’m willing to donate all the fish that I catch to the church to do whatever you wish to do with it towards your uh, plan to raise money for your plane.
Jones: That’s awful sweet of you.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: (unintelligible word) (tape edit) –she’s not seen me, she’s not seen me bring people out of the wheelchairs or raise the dead, or she’s not seen me cause people to spit up cancers and all kinds of things.
Voice in Congregation: too soft
Jones: They sure in the right church, are they?
Congregation: Stirs
Jones: Anyway– Peace. This uh– (Pause) This I say. If a woman can come in here and not– and hear me preachin’ kinda strong and saying a lot of s– words that I don’t accustom– not customarily use, and she can stand up and see the emphasis enough to say, well, I’ll– I’m a fisherwoman, and I will donate the fish. Wonder what about you that’ve seen me go down in the jails right in this town and take my people out of them. I mean, you’ve seen me go right in a riot and keep the peace. You’ve seen me get every one of my people bailed out that was there, falsely accused, otherwise. You’ve seen me adopt eight babies, take 200 that were starving, send all that money to Biafra, we– you can feel proud– Uh, not Biafra, but sub-Sahara, we sent it to Biafra too. But now we’re sending food to the sub-Sahara, because you know nine million people are due to die. Nine million of our black brothers and sisters are due to die? (clears throat)
Voice in Congregation: too soft
Jones: They’re due to die by– within 60 days. Just from starvation. You said, God’ll help them. Yeah, baloney. God don’t help nobody. We’re gonna have to help them. We have to become the hands and feet of God. Nobody helps anybody unless they help themselves.
Congregation: Applause
Jones: Peace. (pause) All right. I think then– I’m going to mention the sum, then anybody can say, I’ll take it on, I’ll take it on. ‘Cause I really, from my heart to yours, I’m telling you, we need it. (Pause) One thousand. Anybody that’ll stand up and say I’ll give– (tape edit)
Jones: I just a moment ago– I just a few minutes ago sent a message by revelation to the telephone, as I said, about Sister Neil, Sister Lillian Neil’s daughter, who was attempting to commit suicide. But the call that I sent from this meeting lifted her at that very moment. She changed her heart. Now let’s think gratefully upon that. The moment David and Rick called, as I told them, that moment, it saved her, because that very moment, she was contemplating taking her life. I didn’t know her. I didn’t even know her. But I knew the precious mother, I knew her, by revelation, Sister Neil. Let’s think about our sister here that was being attacked by the knife, Sister Alfredo Saffold, being attacked. They choked her, they’d beaten her, they’d beaten her head, they nearly had her completely killed, and then she thought to call my name, knowing that I’m crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ that liveth in me (Galatians 2:20, “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”). And she said, Jim, stop it. And the knife– the knife broke. Broke off. Right there. And that’s just a (tape distortion)
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Tape originally posted July 2014