D-2-Q-2A
Meeting with [Feodor] Timofeyev and Kramerengo and the 1st. Sectary (don’t remember name.
(Tony [Walker], Tim [Carter], Debbie [Touchette], Terry [Carter Jones])
Kramerengo was a cold fish as always, on occasion, before Maria [Katsaris]. Terry, myself and Debbie had to talk to the first sec. and 2nd sec back when DB [Debbie Blakey] had left ahd we weren’t quite sure what we were goin to do. At that time Timofeyv was gone and these people had not much of any background on us. The appt. was really bad.
Today though the 1st. Sec was very friendly he and Cde. Kramerengo read the paper very intently and they both read it twice. We asked them for their comments and they said they would have to think and discuss it in a group. They talked between themselves and Timoveyfv kept nodding his head. The 1st sec then asked (he can’t speak English very well) what about the problem with Guyana we explained to him everything that was instruted the day before to say to Timovefy (I wasn’t there for that one) Timofeyev then mentioned that maybe we still had the conditioning of the Americans that money could buy anything, that the assets left behind for the Govt wouldn’t be as much as the embarrassment of 1200 American getting up and leaving. We assured him that it could be handled diplomatically and with no hostile feelings.
We then started relaying everything we were supposed to say, Timofeyev did all the talking to us but the other 2 were listening very intently. Timofeyv said I don’t doubt that everything you said about Jonestown is true I take your word for it. The first sec. said that he found a little about what Alexander had said about J/town and he told everyone how good it was, and Timofeyv said that everyone there had seen the pictures he took and were very impressed. When we mentioned about building collective that they would be proud he said he knew we would and that is why he wanted us to stay together he also said that he felt Cde. Jones should stay with us, that we need him and that he understood how we had all become his children. He said children seed the strength of the family. (Or something like this) He certainly stressed that he wanted us to stay together and cde. Jones should stay with us. When we told him about learning the language he said he knew it was much easier for children to learn they seemed to adapt to language but Seniors would have a harder time. He is enthused that we are learning and told us the tapes should help alot. (We must get them back within a month undamaged) He said something avout compromise. (Tim and he were talking about Andrew Young and what he did and Tim said that if it were Jim we would never compromise his beliefs, what is the purpose of living if not to live for the principle you know is right. etc. I didnt catch all of what tim had all said) But then Timofeyv agreed and said you can’t compromise yoor principles too much, and then mentioned Spain and how their Communist Party had compromised too much and also the Italian Communist party and it showed in what their results were..
He then said he would be coming with the Dr. and that if we wanted to give a lecture Culture, or the language or anything we like, we asked him to maybe discuss some politics he said would but he would not discuss China, he could not discuss China the Guyanese Govt. had absolutely told them not to here. It wasn’t even a matter of wanting to. We said we would like for him to speak very much he said well discuss it and let me know, and I’ll also bring some more films.
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D-2-Q-2B
[Editor’s note: Inventory paper. Not transcribed.]
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D-2-Q-3
Russians Continued:
He said they do not know when the Dr. is to be in, they have expected him at any time, he said even his wife is wondering what the embassy has done with him, (this was meant to be funny) He
He said they would discuss this and then send it one with their opinions to the Soviet Union and then they would let us know the results. they would be waiting with us. We asked if the others had any questions. and did they understand our reason fro wanting to do this. He said oh yes and they nodded their heads. I think they can understand us but can’t speak that well the 1st sec. was friendly which was relief because the first time he met us it was very confusing and we didn’t really leave feeling good about it. Kramerengo was a cold fish. I think he is still bothered because we were told to talk to only the ambassador about something, and we refused to talk to him I think he still takes this personally.
We invited the other 2 to come along with the Dr. and Timofeyv and Timofeyv mentioned that 2 days after Alexander went up, the American Embassy called asking what they found so interesting in the North West making it a plural question to see if any others had gone up. They were fishing, Timofeyv said they didn’ say anything about it, but it wuld be quite noticeable if unofficially so many went up at the same time.
Tim asked about going on the boat, and he shook his head no and said you would have the American Navy on sea immediately to attack he didn’t think this was a good idea at he said the only way would be to fly, we said we would have to do it all at onece he ddint make any comment.
One other thing I forgot to mention was that when it mentioned taking all of us leaving none behind he said he understood this about us, that is what he expected from us.
We have another appt with him this coming Monday. I am sorry for this completely horrible typing and structure, I’m not to good at this.