Q320 Transcript

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Jones: (begins in mid-sentence) —News from quarter of eight till a quarter of nine, then language from quarter of nine to a quarter of ten. Thereafter, Rhonda [likely Rhonda Fortson] can take care of some film selection, if it is possible. I will give you the news for— the top news of ev— events of these hours. In California, the reversal of reversals, a right-winger has become the attorney general, based on the promise of new genocide laws. He defeated a black woman, as you know, who was going to be [a] contender for that office, and Lieutenant Governor [Mervyn] Dymally lost his office, to also another right-winger.

So, things are as usual going downstream. America’s empty— you’ll hear more about that from uh, some of our people who’ve been there, um, in a probably— rally that’ll be occu— occurring later on in the week. We will be having guests probably on Friday, they seem to be much nicer now, number of people’ve been thrown out of the country, a number have been arrested, and uh, the congressman [Leo Ryan] is quite apologetic for all of this ado. He probably didn’t expect to happen what is happening, that we are going to receive him, and he’s trying to get an understanding, and he’s willing even [to] talk on the radio. Or perhaps they are aware of our determination. Whatever, the government of Guyana has taken a very decisive stand. When they picked up the Chronicle reporter, put him in the little room, about ninety degree temperature, claims he, and uh, body-searched him, and kept him there all night, and have thrown him out on— uh, on this evening, he out-goes with the Examiner, and out-goes with whatever they are— members of the press, they have to get out tonight, and the council— the city has not welcomed him. He’s been not given any particular reception at the Embassy. The Embassy— U.S. Embassy’s uncomfortable with him, as um, they could understand, they (stumbles over words) only wanted to give him assurance of a plane for Thursday, but we’re holding that it’s too uh, it’s too— too early to come before— Ofore Friday, because we want our attorney with us, who will be here, Mark Lane, and uh, he will accept our terms on those— on that basis. The relatives are somewhat amazed and awed that he got in, relatives have staying in town, they don’t seem to be pressing particularly to get out here — it’s probably good, they got enough sense not to (unintelligible word)— to change that.

United Nations Security Council’s called on South Africa to council— cancel the elections it plans to hold in Namibia next month, or it will face economic sanctions on other matters. The Security Council approved by economic— (Pause) ten-zero vote on a resolution which says the elections and their results will be rejected as null and void by the United Nations and its member states. United States, Britain, Canada, France and West Germany, the five western members of the council, abstained from voting, as was expected. Always supporting the Union of South Africa’s imperialism.

Oil workers in Iran have cost the government over $800 million in lost revenues this month. They are demanding a civilian government, an end to martial law, the release of political prisoners, 20 more persons were killed today. In a disturbance over the weekend, there were others who went down during the ongoing anti-government protest with the Shah. The people are determined to be free in Iran.

[President Jimmy] Carter meets with Moroccan President Hassan [King Hassan II] tomorrow. The topics of the meeting are expected to be the Middle East peace talks. The Moroccan ruler has played a major role around conservative leaders in this region of Africa. He is believed to be seeking U.S. support in his position in the Spanish Sahara conflict, where Algerian rebels and (unintelligible name) forces are fighting Mauritanian and Moroccan forces.

Somali President [Mohammed Siad Barre]— (Pause) Somalia, near Ethiopia, you know, at the Horn of Africa, president met with visiting Chinese military delegation in Mogidishu, Somo— Somalia. Headed by the chief of staff of the Chinese Army, the delegation arrived one week ago. Somalia, which last year broke ties with the Soviet Union, has been seeking military aid from Western countries.

In a town in Israel, a man confronted an elderly tourist and dropped his trousers. The startled lady dropped her handbag, the mugger picked up the handbag in his pants, and was gone in a flash. And that was just a drop of the lighter side of the news, in a small town in Israel.

Two former SS officers have gone on trial in Cologne, West Germany on charges of complicity in the murders of 500 prisoners in a Warsaw jail during World War II. The prosecutor told the court that the two ordered the prisoners to be shot without trial, following the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Renewed efforts to try to appear to be cleaning the house, in West Germany, from the remnants of Hitlerism.

Nicaragua. After 44 years in power, President [Anastasio] Somoza is going under attack— coming under attack from all sides. In August, the Sandanista movement held the country’s parliament hostage for several days in protest of Somoza’s hold on Nicaragua. This was followed by nation-wide strike supporting the opposition. In return, the army carried out a campaign tantamount to a civil war which left 3000 dead and five major cites devastated. Now both USA and the IMF [International Monetary Fund] have cut off aid because of the pressure they have received by nations all over the world to withdraw their support of the Somoza regime. So Somoza put in by the U.S. Marines, is now on his own and IMF is out, US aid is out, US corporate power is out because it’s just getting too ridiculous for United States to stay in the situation.

(Unintelligible phrase) two of Angola’s meeting in Mousaka, Zambia, with President [Kenneth David] Kaunda and Mobutu [Sese Seko] of Zaire. The three leaders will discuss mutual problems, including the (Unintelligible name— sounds like “Bangalian”) railway. The railway transports Zambia’s and Zaire’s copper exports to Angola’s seaport. The line was officially re-opened this month, but anti-government forces in Angola, UNITA, have continued to attack it. (Pause) Amazing kind of incongruities here, that a government so right as Zaire and Angola, Marxist-Leninist, could be in some kind of peace, but UNITA is being attempted, uh is attempting to s— break the, the railway and bring— break the peace.

In Italy, a group calling itself the Communist Attack Squad is claiming responsibility for the shooting of the retired director of Milan’s largest prison. The former official was shot in the legs as he left his home this morning. Sounds like the trippings of the Re— Red Brigade.

President Kaunda of Zambia has assured white farmers in his country, they are needed to help create a multi-racial society. They warned them not to take the law into their own hands, in his first public statement on the recent anti-white violence. President Kaunda said the whites must wait for the government to be— to respond to their complaints. He urged Zambians not to attack whites suspected of being Rhodesian spies, but to hand them over to the police. The white farmers have written their— withdrawn their earlier threat to stop producing food. They now say they are willing to w— work wholeheartedly, not only with the Zambian government, but with the Zimbabwean activist government uh— patriotic front based in Zambia under Joshua Nkomo’s leadership, to restore security in the country. It was the whites that established this infamy, but now dark reaction is trying to be provoked by CIA and other elements, and it has not succeeded, as Zambia’s white farmers are determined to say.

President Carter has approved a new civil defense program for the United States which will concentrate on evacuating people from cities in the event of nuclear war, rather than putting them in underground shelters. Now, well, that’s interesting. The policy was worked out in a response to increase in the Soviet c— civil defense plan. If Congress approves the plan, it will double civil defense spending. Whether they will do— how much time they’ll have to get out of the city, of course, is another question, being that you have about eight minutes warning now these days.

Iran: Thirty more people killed, 19 injured, following a clash between police and demonstrators in the western city of Sankor. Meanwhile, Carter has again voiced his support for the Iranian government. He said in a television interview that the Shah would be able to form a coalition government and open democratic elections within six months.

The president of Cyprus [Spyros Kyprianou] has commi— muted to life imprisonment the death sentences of two Palestinians convicted of murdering a prominent Egyptian last February. He said he was taking into consideration the current political situation and the wider interest of Cyprus in making the decision. The two men who had been due to hang tomorrow, were convicted of killing a close friend of President [Anwar] Sadat of Egypt, who is the chairman of the Egyptian newspaper.
Attempts at outside mediation to end Nicaragua’s political conflict are being suspended. Reports from the capital, Miniwagwa [Managua] said, envoys from the U.S., Guatemala and Dominican Republic were returning home after having failed to reach a settlement. Opposition leaders have called for President Somoza to resign by next week, warning that otherwise he could face renewed unrest, because U.S. cannot now openly give aid, even their own alliance is not willing to go along with it, and IMF has withdrawn its— its uh, support and assistance because of the corruption. There are new currents of change in the economic arena of IMF, it seems.

The government opposition group in Angola, UNITA, is openly claiming responsibility for several explosions last week in major cities in Angola. The Angolan government said last week that at least 40 people had died after two bomb explosions, killing primarily white Union of South Africans.

The British Prime Minister [James] Callaghan, who yesterday spoke out about the high level of British— Britain contribution to the EEC [European Economic Community] has rejected suggestions in Parliament that he should threaten to leave the EEC altogether. Mr. Callahan has been urging radical reform in the EEC’s budget and foreign policy. Today, he restated his crys— criticism that Britain is paying too much into the community.

There has been a series of bomb explosions in Northern Ireland, at least eight bombs went off during the seven— during the day in seven cities. Advance warning[s] were given, but over 30 people were injured. In Londonderry, there were five explosions. The army disarmed several other bombs.

The president of Portugal [Antonio Ramalho Eanes] has attended a banquet in his honor at Buckingham Palace. In her speech, the queen [Queen Elizabeth II] said that Britain now looks forward to working with Portugal in the European community as a full partner in the joint endeavor to build a more stable, prosperous and democratic Europe.

The news continues. Attacks on the invisible empire, Mormon money in California, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, it has a— amassed what is considered to be the largest wealth in the United States in California. For eleven years, ever since physicians removed his pituitary gland, the 71-year-old former electronics assembler has collected welfare. The deep scar in his right temple is a constant reminder of his doctor’s admonition that he’d never work again. But he does work, as much as six hours a day, although he never receives a paycheck, and the government has no record of his being on the welfare rolls. Mr. Hillman — he doesn’t give out his first name to strangers — is one of 20,000 Californians who are recipients of a welfare program the government has nothing to do with. Every day Mr. Hillman sits, filling out numbers in a book in an office in a huge warehouse located in Sylmar in the rural end of the San Fernando Valley. The storage rooms are stocked with goods for— from blankets and clothes to meats, canned fruits, vegetables, and flour. Some of this is packed in cardboard boxes waiting to be shipped out to others on the welfare program. There are no prices on any of the items, and most are priced with a brand name never seen on the supermarket shelf— shelf— dessert. It is Mr. Hillman’s job to note down dutifully how long each volunteer spends on what task and when. “As far as I’m concerned,” he observes, “I am not on welfare. I work for what I get.” Mr. Hillman paid in the commodity store at Sylmar is on the receiving end of an intricate nationwide system, independent, self-sustaining, and for all its worldliness, operated according to religious principles, those of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-Day Saints, the Mormons. The warehouse in Sylmar is one of 90 such distribution centers across the country, seven in California alone. But the centers are only small specks in the vast multi-billion dollar empire controlled by the Mormon church. The Mormons are among the fastest-growing religious sects in the world. Ask any Mormons about the— his or her beliefs, and he’ll gladly talk your ear off. Follow-up with a question about the church’s business holdings, and there’ll be an uncomfortable silence. It’s not that they don’t want to tell you. They just don’t know, and they don’t care. The truth about Mormon holdings is it’s hard to come by. The church has investments all over the world, except in a variety of privately-held corporate entities. Very private. There’s a holding company, a couple of trust companies, hotels, apartments, buildings, industrial parks, securities companies, development company, real estate section, insurance companies, radio, TV stations, newspapers, books, farms, lands, and more land. The American Zion hasn’t a coin for the— its realm, not a military prerequisites, and territorial sovereignty enjoyed by the state of Israel or the pope in Rome. Such trappings are needed. The Mormon Church wields more economic power more effectively than any other organized religion in the world. The church-run welfare system that supports Mormon needy like Mr. Hillman is only one-thousandth of a complex American phenomenon, an institution that is as much a corporate conglomerate as it is one of the nation’s healthiest religions. The church discor— discourages public welfare, and therefore operates an internal support agency for its own worthy poor, all of whom, including Mr. Hillman, are in— certified by their local bishops as actual church members who are legitimately in need. It’s all a part of a huge worldwide system, concentrated in the west. According to the church, 110,306 Mormons were assisted by the welfare program in 1976. The church also donated commodities and labor during the flood disaster in Idaho, one of the few times church reserves have be used to aid non-Mormons.

And such is the news about the day, religious (Unintelligible word) and so forth. It’s to our sadness that Merv Dymally went down, to our sadness that we have a right-wing move in California. (Pause) We will now go on with the program in the pavilion. All are expected to be in attendance, as I shall see you shortly. Be (Unintelligible word) not fear, things are not near. We are looking very good at this particular time of the day, and good position on all issues. Good support, good solid support. The government has been— has been very thoughtful and uh, they called the rival of Mr. Ryan on Radio Demerara a right-wing reactionary. Lot of good support by the police, lot of good support by the trade unions. They’ve spoken down firmly, that um— and committed in form, not in just some gadfly moment.

Much love to you, and if I have any other message, I will come back. I’ll see you in (Pause) the next few minutes, perhaps. Much love.

Tape originally posted November 2001

Originally posted on June 16th, 2013.

Last modified on April 1st, 2014.
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