Q609 Summary

Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.

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FBI Catalogue Tapes Not Summarized

FBI preliminary tape identification note:

Date cues on tape: One Tracs 90/JJ MP [Mike Prokes] Julie O’Hare [Julia Hare] 3/5/77/ KSFO (Tape Q627 specifies 9 February 1977; month difference is insignificant)

People named:

Public figures/ National and international names:

U.S. President Jimmy Carte
Rosalynn Carter, wife of President Carter
John F. Kennedy, assassinated U.S. President
George McGovern, U.S. Senator (D-South Dakota)
Richard M. Nixon, former U.S. President (by reference)
Theodore Sorensen, Carter nominee to head CIA
Cyrus Vance, U.S. Secretary of State
Andrew Young, US ambassador to United Nations

Fulgencio Batista, former Cuban dictator
Mahatma Gandhi, Indian leader, practitioner of non-violence
Salvador Allende, President of Chile, deposed in 1973 coup (by reference)

Eldridge Cleaver, Black Panther leader
Kathleen Cleaver, Black Panther leader
Gary Gilmore, executed convict
Alex Haley, author of Roots

Willie Brown, California Assemblyman
John Burton, U.S. Representative (D-Calif.)
Philip Burton, U.S. Representative (D-Calif.)
Don Clausen, U.S. Representative (R-Calif.)
Mervyn Dymally, California Lieutenant Governor
George Moscone, mayor of San Francisco
Charles Gain, San Francisco police chief
Joseph Freitas, San Francisco District Attorney

Bill Farr, L.A. newsman
Rev. Hall, minister at Bethel AME in San Francisco
Julia Hare, Bay Area black activist, radio talk show host (speaks)

Temple members:

Marceline Jones (by reference)
Amanda Poindexter, aka Ever Rejoicing (by reference)
Michael Prokes (speaks)

Bible verses cited:

“Judge a tree by the fruit it bears.” (Matthew 12:33, “Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.” See also Luke 6:43-44.)

“Jesus said, he who’s not against me, is on my part. When one of his disciples came up to him early in the ministry when all the followers that Jesus had were with him, so it had to be someone of another faith… John said, what’re we going to so with this gang. They’re not with Jesus. He said, they’re not against me. They’re for me.” (Mark 9:38-40, “And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part.”)

“When [Jesus] judged people– in Matthew 25, the only judgment that ever came out of the mouth of the Nazarene was, I was hungry and you didn’t feed me, I was thirsty, you gave me no drink, I was a stranger, you didn’t take me in. I was in prison, oppressed, and you didn’t do something to get me out of that condition. He said what– when did we see you there? He said, in that you saw the least of suffering humanity there, you saw me. And so you didn’t help them. Now depart from me. I never knew you.” (Matthew 25:34-46)

“Jesus Christ said petition or pray that heaven come on earth. Heaven is within you.” (Luke 17:20-21, “And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”)

“[P]acifism doesn’t mean that you roll over and play dead. Now indeed, if a bunch of [Nazis] come into our Temple, we’re not going to turn the other cheek. We’ve turned all the cheeks we’ve got anyway. And so we will resist evil.” (Matthew 5:39, “But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.”)


This tape is a virtual duplicate of the first two-thirds of Tape Q627 of an interview conducted by Julia Hare of KSFO Radio in San Francisco with Jim Jones and Mike Prokes. A duplicate of the last third of the tape may be found – in a less-carefully recorded format – at Tape Q727 .

There are several differences between this and Q 627. The latter is more complete in one respect, in that it is the tape of all the exchanges between the radio hostess and her two guests, including the off-mike conversations during commercial breaks, when Ms. Hare mentions what they will talk about in the next segment. However, this tape includes several minutes of conversation which were lost on 627, due to its subsequent use to record a telephone conversation, as well as another minute lost on 627 when side one ended and before side two begins.

FBI Summary:

Date of transcription: 3/7/79

In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.

On March 5, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B47 #51. This tape was found to contain the following:

This tape was reviewed, and nothing was contained thereon which was considered to be of evidentiary nature or beneficial to the investigation of Congressman RYAN.

Differences with FBI Summary:

There is nothing to compare between the two summaries, since the FBI did not write anything for this, or 64 other tapes which bear the notation “Tapes Not Summarized.” These tapes seems to have little on them which the FBI could use for its purposes of investigating crimes arising from the Jonestown tragedy, but then again, that describes many other tapes as well. The difference seems to be that one or two FBI agents catalogued this set of tapes – as evidenced by the typewriter used in writing the reports – and that generally, the transcriptions were made early in the process, before someone may have asked for greater detail in the reports.

Tape originally posted January 2011