Summary prepared by Fielding M. McGehee III. If you use this material, please credit The Jonestown Institute. Thank you.
FBI Catalogue: Identified people
FBI preliminary tape identification note: One Realistic C-60 “Phone conversation”
Date cues on tape: After mass migration to Guyana
Joe Mazor, private detective hired by Concerned Relatives
Bible verses cited: None
Carol McCoy, who eventually died in Jonestown, calls Joe Mazor, the detective hired by the Concerned Relatives to assist apostates in getting their relatives returned to them, and asks about his services. She says she has children in Jonestown, and wants to know how to get them back. Mazor replies cautiously, and asks her what she wants him to do. “Well, that’s kinda what I wanted to know, what I wanted you to tell me,” McCoy replies.
Mazor asks if she has certain documents that might help – guardianship, etc. – but McCoy says no. He asks if she had given permission for them to go over; she says no. He says there are a few things they could try, but that she sounds like she’s in a “terrible position for any one of them.” Before they go any further, though, he suggests a face-to-face meeting. She agrees. The balance of the call is arranging the appointment and her travel arrangements from L.A.
Given the fact that the tape was located among the Temple’s effects after the deaths, that McCoy died in Jonestown, and a few indicators on the tape itself – she whispers to someone for a pen at the very beginning of the conversation – it seems that the conversation was staged to see how Mazor went about doing his business, so that Temple members could counter his efforts.
Carol McCoy eventually met with Mazor. A transcript of her report on the meeting appears here.
Date of transcription: 3/29/79
In connection with the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s investigation into the assassination of U.S. Congressman LEO J. RYAN at Port Kaituma, Guyana, South America, on November 18, 1978, a tape recording was obtained. This tape recording was located in Jonestown, Guyana, South America, and was turned over to U.S. Officials in Guyana and subsequently transported to the United States.
On March 8, 1979, Special Agent (name deleted) reviewed the tape numbered 1B62-6. This tape was found to contain the following:
Telephone call from CAROL MC COY to JOE MAZER (phonetic).
Nothing was contained thereon which was considered to be of evidentiary nature or beneficial to the investigation of Congressman RYAN.
Differences with FBI Summary: None
Tape originally posted November 1998